Oh boy…

From News 12:

Toms River ordinance bans aggressive real estate solicitation

Door-to-door real estate solicitation is now forbidden in areas of Toms River. The “cease and desist” ordinance went into effect Friday.

The ordinance comes after many complaints by Toms River residents of real estate agents “aggressively” inquiring about the sale of homes that have not been put on the market. The residents say that typically these agents represent members of the Orthodox Jewish community from neighboring towns like Lakewood.

Toms River has previously had a “no knock” registry to keep away unwanted solicitation, and residents were able to put green stickers on their door to mark their homes as such. However, township officials have expanded the law after more complaints came in from residents.

Toms River police will now enforce the law, although there won’t be any special task force assigned to the task.

“The police department will enforce whatever the state, federal or local government puts on the books and we’re going to enforce it. But we’re not aggressively seeking to catch anybody doing this. It’s going to be as a result of citizen complaints as it always has been,” says Toms River police spokesman Ralph Stocco.

The ordinance will ban the solicitation for the next five years. Nonprofit organizations such as the Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts are exempt.

The new ordinance comes after Lakewood’s mayor criticized Toms River Mayor Tom Kelaher for calling the aggressive real estate inquiries “an invasion” or Orthodox Jews. Kehaher later apologized for the comments.

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59 Responses to Oh boy…

  1. grim says:

    Lots of locals posting stories about how they sold their homes for hundreds of thousands of dollars above market value…

  2. Grim says:

    There are a few accounts of what to me sounds like Blockbusting…

  3. Juice Box says:

    Re:#1 -How does a rabbinical student get a mortgage?

  4. Juice Box says:

    On yesterday’s topic.

    Google restorative justice counselor.

  5. Splat says:

    Juice (3)-

    The same way Hasidic jewelers get onto public assistance.

  6. Juice Box says:

    re # 5 – More interested in how they use federal vouchers to help pay their housing costs.

  7. Juice Box says:

    My understanding of the HUD program is there are 8,400 people in Lakewood receiving the vouchers. Those renters then pay the landlord with the voucher. I gather those vouchers pay for the house and taxes etc.

  8. Libturd says:

    Shhhh. You are giving away away trade secrets.

  9. dentss says:

    ….#3 Most transactions are all cash

  10. Comrade Nom Deplume, on the slopes says:

    Spending the day akiing back and forth between Nevada and Cali, and thankful that I’m not a hateful, envious leftist troll.

    Otherwise I’d be in my parent’s basement, looking for tweets that support my hatred for success and personal responsibility

  11. walking bye says:

    maybez like this?

    Federal authorities raided private Jewish schools and businesses in Rockland County to see if millions of federal dollars earmarked for education technology were misused.

    FBI agents conducted 22 separate search warrants at yeshivas and offices in the town of Ramapo on Wednesday afternoon, the Journal News reported. Agents were seen going in and out of a private business in Monsey, removing computer hard drives and documents.

    The investigators asked them to provide records of equipment allegedly bought through the federal government’s E-Rate program, which pays for technology in schools, the newspaper reported.

  12. Grim says:

    Dump Trump signs are brilliant.

  13. Grim says:

    Shocking … RICO?

  14. grim says:

    From the Star Ledger:

    Former Newark Bears stadium sold to NYC developer for $23M

    Newark’s Field of Dreams has been sold.

    The former home of the Newark Bears minor league baseball team – left to languish along Broad Street since the hard-luck franchise folded in 2013 – has been sold to a New York-based developer for $23.5 million.

    The site at the corner of Broad Street and Orange Street has been sold to the Lotus Equity Group, city officials confirmed this week. Lotus plans to demolish Riverfront Stadium and build a mixed-use, high-rise tower in its place.

    “This property is so significant,” said Baye Adofo-Wilson, the city’s Deputy Mayor for Economic and Housing Development. The stadium “was part of a previous attempt to revitalize the downtown…It didn’t work out. We had to come up with a new idea.”

    Once hailed as a beacon for a new era of development and prosperity in Newark, the return of minor league baseball to the state’s largest city proved to be a misstep almost immediately.

    The franchise-less stadium has continued to cost Newark and Essex County taxpayers a combined $2 million in annual debt payments.

    Wilson said the new high-rise will include both residential units and commercial spaces. Though plans have yet to be finalized, that could include a hotel, he said.

    Both the city and Lotus hope to market the apartments as both eco-friendly and part of a thriving transit-oriented district, in hopes of attracting millennials and other young professionals to Newark. The current stadium is just a short walk from the city’s light rail and NJ Transit’s Broad Street station.

    “We have the ability to create a vibrant, multifaceted downtown destination for residents and visitors,” said Ben Korman, founder of Lotus Equity Group.

    “As longtime investors in Newark, we understand this is a unique opportunity to harness the city’s incredible energy to build an enduring economic driver for generations to come.”

    The precise number of units proposed for the tower is unclear, but officials said it could be between 1,000 and 1,500. Some of the units, though it is unclear how many, will likely be designated as affordable housing.

  15. grim says:

    Riverfront Stadium cost us $34 million to build.

  16. grim says:

    Would have been a better move to build a soccer stadium there. I’ve got to imagine Red Bull arena is raking it in.

  17. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I really hope they find something to stop these groups from intentionally raping the tax payer. If everyone pulled their con moves, our society would collapse.

    walking bye says:
    March 19, 2016 at 9:51 pm
    maybez like this?

    Federal authorities raided private Jewish schools and businesses in Rockland County to see if millions of federal dollars earmarked for education technology were misused.

    FBI agents conducted 22 separate search warrants at yeshivas and offices in the town of Ramapo on Wednesday afternoon, the Journal News reported. Agents were seen going in and out of a private business in Monsey, removing computer hard drives and documents.

    The investigators asked them to provide records of equipment allegedly bought through the federal government’s E-Rate program, which pays for technology in schools, the newspaper reported.

  18. grim says:

    Although, if it was in Newark, it would have probably been a failure.

  19. Nope. Red Bull Arena is a total disaster. It depended upon residential and retail second phase development in all those vacant lots around the stadium. Obviously, hipsters and Alex + Ani don’t think Harrison is a viable deal.

    Really, the whole thing was shoved down Harrison’s throat as a shot in the arm for the whole town. Which it was not.

  20. grim (20)-

    Soccer stadiums all over the US fail whenever they are attached to ML$, which is a corrupt organization selling a fake product to casual fans.

  21. grim says:

    From Fortune:

    This Fast Food CEO Wants to Replace Workers With Robots

    CEO of CKE Restaurants Andy Puzder wants to take humans out of the fast food equation.

    The Carl’s Jr. and Hardee’s parent company could soon implement an employee-free operation as Puzder told Business Insider, “I want to try it.” The chief executive was inspired by Eatsa, a restaurant that employs just a handful of kitchen workers while all front-of-house procedures are computerized—you can go in without seeing a single human being.

    Because the restaurant employs few people, it can afford to invest in healthier food options. According to Inside Scoop SF, a quinoa bowl reminiscent of Chipotle costs just $6.95 and is a substantial size. “We could have a restaurant that’s focused on all-natural products and is much like Eatsa,” Puzder told BI—though Carl’s Jr. and Hardee’s aren’t exactly best known for their healthy, all-natural options. “You order on a kiosk, you pay with a credit or debit card, your order pops up, and you never see a person.”

    Additionally, Puzder would never have to worry about an employee lawsuit again. Machines are “always polite, they always upsell, they never take a vacation, they never show up late, there’s never a slip-and-fall, or an age, sex, or race discrimination case.”

  22. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Pretty sad. Just amazing how the people living in that area hold it back from its true potential.

    grim says:
    March 20, 2016 at 8:04 am
    Riverfront Stadium cost us $34 million to build.

  23. The Great Pumpkin says:

    24- They will just blame white racism for holding back Newark. They have been taught to blame white racism for all their problems, so why not add another to the list.

  24. grim says:

    I’m just wondering who ever thought that minor league baseball was a good idea.

  25. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, and you won’t have to worry about a customer being able to buy your food either. Nice job!

    “Additionally, Puzder would never have to worry about an employee lawsuit again. Machines are “always polite, they always upsell, they never take a vacation, they never show up late, there’s never a slip-and-fall, or an age, sex, or race discrimination case.””

  26. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You also will never see a customer because you took their job.

    “You order on a kiosk, you pay with a credit or debit card, your order pops up, and you never see a person.”

  27. grim says:

    Who took their job? Greedy CEOs? Or did the feel-good legislation to push minimum wage to $15 do it?

  28. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Instead of focusing on putting out healthier food options with the lower costs, you save it. You are going to need it to offset the tax increase to support the welfare recipients with which you took away their job.

    There is nothing economically efficient about eliminating a job and not replacing one with it. All you are doing is shifting the numbers around in the economy. So yes, the business owner can now profit more with an elimination of a job, but someone has to make up for this person’s ability to participate in the economy with no job/lower paying job. So what happens? Nope, prices don’t come down to adjust for lower production costs. Yup, taxes go up to help support this individual that can’t find a job. This will all end well.

  29. grim says:

    30 – So you are against raising the minimum wage?

  30. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Both. The minimum wage push was a result of greedy ceo’s offshoring jobs forcing our workers who live in high cost of living locations to compete with low cost of living workers. When the production savings don’t go to lower pricing (deflation) and instead to profits, you leave the legislatures no choice but to push for minimum wage because their constituents are demanding it because they can no longer survive on current wages.

    grim says:
    March 20, 2016 at 8:46 am
    Who took their job? Greedy CEOs? Or did the feel-good legislation to push minimum wage to $15 do it?

  31. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Absolutely. I expect the business owners of the world to have a strong grasp of economics. Meaning, they have a complete understanding of the short term and long term consequences of their actions on the economy. You need to understand that if you increase profit at the top (through elimination/stagnation of jobs/wages) at the expense of the bottom, you are causing long term damage to the economy. It’s basically the equivalent of raising prices to levels the economy can no longer support to seek out insane profits. Why can’t these idiots understand that? They know you can’t raise prices to unsupportable levels, but can’t understand the harm one brings with trying to profit from unsupportable levels of unemployment. It really makes me sick how many people don’t understand this, yet think they understand business economics.

    grim says:
    March 20, 2016 at 8:50 am
    30 – So you are against raising the minimum wage?

  32. The Great Pumpkin says:

    33- Sure, lower pay and eliminate jobs to increase profits. It’s so easy. Yay, let’s all do this, it’s how you make more profit. Don’t waste time on putting out better products, just put out products you can better profit from. Yes, these people are greedy fuc!ing idiots who will take down our economy with their stupidity and greed.

  33. Fabius Maximus says:

    #29 grim

    Who took their job? This guy did.

    “Over the past year, our Task Force on Private Sector Initiatives has successfully forged a working partnership involving leaders of business, labor, education, and government to address the training needs of American workers. Thanks to the Task Force, private sector initiatives are now underway in all 50 States of the Union, and thousands of working people have been helped in making the shift from dead-end jobs and low-demand skills to the growth areas of high technology and the service economy. Additionally, a major effort will be focused on encouraging the expansion of private community child care.”

  34. Fabius Maximus says:

    #26 grim

    I love minor league baseball. Try a day out to the Cyclones in Coney island.
    I do a lot of games with the Rockland Boulders. Cheap tickets, good food, very family friendly and they have camp outs on the outfield. There are bars, bands, fireworks for after the game and great beers.

    Oh they play a baseball game as well.

  35. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You know why it doesn’t eliminate jobs? The jobs are already underpaid. The wages are held down by illegal immigration and elimination of jobs. They flood the job market with so many people searching for a job. How can you ever base supply and demand principles to wages when there is always job sabotage (off shoring of jobs at the same time of importing illegal/legal immigrants) ? The pressure is constantly put on the downside of wages. Until everyone is granted access to jobs, you can’t apply supply and demand principles to wages. Otherwise, the pressure will always be on the downside and never on the upside. You will always have someone in a desperate position where they will do it for almost nothing, or resort to stealing for survival if they can’t find a job.

    “Does raising the minimum wage cause job loss?

    No. The best economic research, and real world experiences with minimum wage increases, confirms that raising the minimum wage does not cause job loss. The most sophisticated minimum wage study to date, published in November 2010 by economists at the University of Massachusetts, University of North Carolina, and University of California, compared employment data among every pair of neighboring U.S. counties that straddle a state border and had differing minimum wage levels at any time between 1990 and 2006, and found that minimum wage increases did not cost jobs. A companion study published in April 2011 found that these results hold true even during periods of recession and high unemployment. For more research on the effect of the minimum wage on employment, click here. A widely-cited 2013 study by the Center for Economic and Policy Research reviews the past two decades of research on the impact of minimum wage increases on employment and concludes that “the weight of the evidence points to little or no effect of minimum wage increases on job growth.””

  36. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s a utopia to think that everyone is capable of being employed in a high skilled job. Some people need those low skilled jobs to serve a purpose in society and their life. So why take them all away? Would you rather just put them on welfare, or give them a purpose?

    Fabius Maximus says:
    March 20, 2016 at 9:09 am
    #29 grim

    Who took their job? This guy did.

    “Over the past year, our Task Force on Private Sector Initiatives has successfully forged a working partnership involving leaders of business, labor, education, and government to address the training needs of American workers. Thanks to the Task Force, private sector initiatives are now underway in all 50 States of the Union, and thousands of working people have been helped in making the shift from dead-end jobs and low-demand skills to the growth areas of high technology and the service economy. Additionally, a major effort will be focused on encouraging the expansion of private community child care.”

  37. Get ready for minimum income laws for people who are essentially unemployable. Better to keep any lunk who cannot function in society in his apartment, glued to the TV and stuffing his pie hole full of processed foods and HFCS-laced drinks.

    Life imitates Wall-E.

  38. chicagofinance says:

    Check out Domino Pizza……it is the new wave really……
    https://www.dominos.com/en/pages/order/?couponCode_0=9413&partnerCode=DOMINOS&so=hp&panelname=50Off&panelnumber=1#/locations/search/

    grim says:
    March 20, 2016 at 8:46 am
    Who took their job? Greedy CEOs? Or did the feel-good legislation to push minimum wage to $15 do it?

  39. chicagofinance says:

    Also have you used those hand-helds in Chili’s? Once the food is on the table, your server is rendered superfluous…….you can even order refills on drinks without having to talk to anyone……..of course, if I didn’t have kids, I could not care less…….I would never set foot in there…..

  40. walking bye says:

    $25 m for a rundown baseball stadium seems high. You could probably get the roche campus in Clifton for twice that.

  41. Essex says:

    42. better view from the ballpark…

    The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it’s a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh… people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.

  42. walking bye says:

    Ah memories of jeering Jose Canseco at 1st will be with us forever.

  43. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I can not see minimum income laws not becoming reality based on current trends.

    Splat What Was He Thinking says:
    March 20, 2016 at 10:54 am
    Get ready for minimum income laws for people who are essentially unemployable. Better to keep any lunk who cannot function in society in his apartment, glued to the TV and stuffing his pie hole full of processed foods and HFCS-laced drinks.

    Life imitates Wall-E.

  44. The Great Pumpkin says:

    45- Think of the damage this will have on our economy when people see half the population not working and making a livable income. How do you con the other 50% to continue working? Are we there yet? I guess that’s what income inequality is, the guys left doing the productive work must be compensated ever so more to keep them motivated to do their work that is critical to society. This is the critical question, what do we do we the individuals that serve no purpose in society besides their ability to consume; how should they be economically compensated?

  45. Grim says:

    Forced unproductivity will surely help us compete with China.

  46. Juice Box says:

    Dead Marines and a secret firebase in a northern Iraq. Where is the AUMF and Congressional approval for boots on the ground?

  47. Essex says:

    46. Intrinsic motivation. Google it.

  48. sx (43)-

    Baseball is the dead, pastoral sport of a dead, urbanized, Third World nation.

  49. Entropy trumps intrinsic motivation.

  50. Tom Peters is turning over in his grave over the ban of door-to-door solicitation. Even though he isn’t dead yet. I can’t believe I can’t find any of his classic “just get yourself a ton of listings videos” from the late 70’s, early 80’s. I remember watching a video of his in the Century 21 Jaeger office on Hamburg Turnpike where hew as telling us to canvas every house around a new listing trying for even more new listings. One of his other methods was for turning FSBOs into listings. He wanted you to keep a card file of all FSBO listings and file the cards by phone number. That way you could look at the FSBO listings in the paper, pull out your index card and know who it was before you turned and dialed. “Hi Fred, I saw your new ad. It looks good. I think you will probably get some people at your open house this time….” LOL. I wish I could find some his old videos when he was in his prime, but this is definitely him…on the back nine ( a lot of years ago):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nfGjVFIw1s

  51. [55] My bad. Tom Peters was/is a business motivator. I was thinking of Tom Hopkins, he was the RE guy. He started with audio tapes, then graduated into videos later. He audio tapes were classic. Here’s one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX1wgXOwPyE

  52. I just watched all of this and realized that a lot of my selling skills came from this guy 30 years ago, for better or worse:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZa29V2L-U4

  53. Tom Hopkins finished off more RE agents’ careers than Dunkin’ Donuts ever did.

    His “method”- complete with conventions and boot camps- used to sell for something like 10K back in the day. And the sales pitch and pressure to buy was just this side of waterboarding.

    I used to tell all my new agents to be wary of this guy and his methods (several, such as anonymous ads in newspapers, are illegal in NJ).

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