Looks like PA’s tax benefit is dead (good riddance)

From NJ Biz:

Editorial: Christie makes right call to nix Pa. tax deal

Gov. Chris Christie last week signaled he will end the income tax reciprocal agreement that New Jersey has shared with Pennsylvania for nearly 40 years.

To quickly recap: Under the agreement, Pennsylvania residents who work in New Jersey pay the Keystone State’s income taxes rather than the Garden State’s, and vice versa. That effectively costs New Jersey somewhere between $180 million and $250 million a year in forfeited collections, depending on which analysis you consider.

If you’re wondering why New Jersey has kept this on the books so long, the answer, of course, is South Jersey.

The powers that be lurking in Voorhees, West Deptford and so on have argued that many South Jerseyans hold lower-paying jobs in Pennsylvania, and the agreement benefits them, as they can pay New Jersey’s progressive income tax — a better deal than the flat 3.07 percent levied by Pennsylvania.

Effectively, that means New Jerseyans who don’t work in the Keystone State are subsidizing the small number of those that do — and, meanwhile, high-wage earners commuting in from eastern Pennsylvania avoid paying anything to New Jersey at all.

We sympathize with anyone struggling to scratch out a living in high-cost New Jersey, whether they live in Carneys Point or Kearny. But we can’t support the kind of tax inequality Pennsylvania is perpetuating, nor the audacity of its governor to say its state will suffer for New Jersey’s partisan problems. Pennsylvania’s time would be better spent getting its own horribly outdated tax code in order, and Democrats opposing Christie on this one ought to think about how more accurate income tax collections could be spent lightening the load on all income earners who live here.

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53 Responses to Looks like PA’s tax benefit is dead (good riddance)

  1. grim says:

    Not sure where our resident medical expert has been, to weigh in.

    But, the chronic cough and pneumonia are probably linked. This can sometimes be caused by partial vocal cord paralysis.

    Her voice is consistent with vocal cord paralysis, or maybe a laryngeal nerve issue. Complicating factor of this is the risk of aspiration pneumonia.

    Of course, it could be more complex like a oropharyngeal dysphasia, which is a symptom of a number of serious illnesses.

  2. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @ChaseMit

    This is the first time Republicans

    have cared about a woman’s health.

  3. nwnj3 says:

    My new favorite theory is that it was a double who made the phony appearance outside of Chelsea’s apartment. Who would be reckless enough to hug a child in the staged photo opp knowing that they are carrying pneumonia?

  4. grim says:

    Now that’s just silly.

  5. Juice Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    .@realDonaldTrump on Hillary’s health: I hope she gets well, gets back on the trail & we’ll see her at the debate

  6. nwnj3 says:

    Silly, yeah, but not any more outlandish than describing her fainting as stumble or the flood of dismissive excuses I heard yesterday. Unsurprisingly, there were already a few apologists who said that her health is irrelevant to the election(i.e. elect a corpse).

  7. Hillary thru the looking glass says:

    Grim, she looks like a classic patient with a long term degenerative/muscle control issues. (ALS/Myasthenia Gravis, MS, etc). Myasthenia Gravis is one that allows for short term recovery like she presents. An on/off switch appearance, not constant weakness or varying weakness in grasping/walking, etc . She’s seen around for a few hours active and off site for days for recovery.

    Her voice changes come from hypophonia, loud whispering if you will. As she is not able to generate enough airflow to generate voice. That is why her voice is graspy – is loud whispering that sounds graspy as the microphone picks it up. Her fall a few years back, probably the first signs of the disease.

    Her issue yesterday, related to progression of the disease. It takes more neostigmine and pyridostigmine with ugly side effects. Side effects like extra saliva, which if you can’t swallow and have breathing difficulty makes atelectasis/pneumonia a certainty.

    Plasmapheresis is next on line if not already done. Let her take a NIF (Negative Inspiratory Force) and VC (Vital Capacity) Test and I’ll tell you how far away Intubation and placement on a ventilator are.

    Reason for ventilator is two fold. Airway protection, all that saliva and lung secretion that she can’t cough up (one of the 2 reasons you get a tracheotomy) and respiratory failure or inability to ventilate/oxygenate (the other reason a trach is done).

    This is a bitch of a disease – an on/off, that affects different people differently. Her age, and weight are against her.

    Just the voice of 30 yrs in healthcare with 20 of them dealing with ventilators patients in world class top medical facilities in NYC.

    Of course all of these is pure speculation based on conjecture of “ClintonReality” lens so distortion is expected.

  8. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/poll-unconscious-clinton-more-fit-to-be-president-than-conscious-trump

    Polls show Twitdiot, Footstool, Buttocks, et al. prefer unconscious Hillary to upright Trump (and they think that’s funny). That must be some Kool-Aid they’ve drunk.

  9. Fast Eddie says:

    Moose,

    I have this image of her laying in a coffin at her headquarters on election night, throngs of monkeys celebrating around her as she’s announced the winner.

  10. Fast Eddie says:

    Hillary thru the looking glass,

    An interesting and informative read.

  11. nwnj3 says:

    Imagine the quacks they’ll have to bring in to recommend she continue to campaign. I can’t imagine any doctor with a modicum of common sense would recommend anything but immediate retirement. This election just continues to get more and more bizarre by the day.

  12. Fabius Maximus says:

    Moose,

    From a pragmatic point of view alone, Election at Bernie’s will legally, be easier to resolve.

  13. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @BenHowe

    Pneumonia isn’t as bad as sociopathy.

  14. Ottoman says:

    Science shows people with right wing tendencies have lower IQs. Hence your inability to recognize satire, even though admittedly Borowitz is often demonstrably very poor at it.

    BTW, I’m no fan of Clinton and wouldn’t vote for her even if my vote mattered. But you keep believing you understand the left while you continue to prop up the Aryan Nation’s dream candidate. Can’t wait to see how “terrific” — his word– everything will be when he’s pres.

    And thanks for proving to the world you think about me when I’m not here. ((Hugs))

    Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:
    September 12, 2016 at 9:47 am
    http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/poll-unconscious-clinton-more-fit-to-be-president-than-conscious-trump

    Polls show Twitdiot, Footstool, Buttocks, et al. prefer unconscious Hillary to upright Trump (and they think that’s funny). That must be some Kool-Aid they’ve drunk.

  15. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    Footstool;

    I love that you neatly encapsulate your idiocy in one post:

    “your inability to recognize satire” vs. “(and they think that’s funny).”

    But we should trust you on who’s best to run the country.

    And thanks for proving to the world you think about me when I’m not here. ((Hugs))

    Act all ‘holier than thou’ if you like — you were lurking, weren’t you?

  16. Polls show Twitdiot, Footstool, Buttocks, et al. prefer unconscious Hillary even if she has ebola and is getting a new therapy where they feed her freshly ground live fetuses with a paper trail that shows she is buying the live young with wire transfers from her $10 billion swiss bank accounts.

  17. Ottoman says:

    Perhaps true however having one doesn’t preclude someone from suffering both. IE praising Kissenger, who killed how many people in Vietnam, Chile, etc…, supporting the mass incarceration of mostly black men and referring to them as super predators, and supporting doubling the number of destitute people in America by eliminating welfare were all Clinton moves, not Trump.

    One of the best lines when Clinton officially got the nomination:

    “I wish all those little girls Hillary sent back to El Salvador were alive to see this historic moment in feminism.”

    Alt-right (the good one) says:
    September 12, 2016 at 10:32 am
    @BenHowe

    Pneumonia isn’t as bad as sociopathy.

  18. I wonder how many Sanders voters vote for Trump with raised middle fingers if they replace the evil cunt with Biden or Kaine.

  19. It must be pretty bad to have both.

    Pneumonia isn’t as bad as sociopathy.

  20. She didn’t have the Friday pneumonia diagnosis until late Sunday, so she wasn’t contagious at that time. Seriously, I wouldn’t put it past them to pay off the parents and infect that child to “prove” that she had pneumonia. The kid was a shill, obviously. Shkreli was outside her apartment, BTW.

    http://fortune.com/2016/09/12/pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-hillary-clinton/

    My new favorite theory is that it was a double who made the phony appearance outside of Chelsea’s apartment. Who would be reckless enough to hug a child in the staged photo opp knowing that they are carrying pneumonia?

  21. grim says:

    We’re talking likely aspiration pneumonia, so not contagious. This isn’t Ebola.

  22. Fast Eddie says:

    Science shows people with right wing tendencies have lower IQs

    You’re right. We’re stup1d enough to get up every day, go to work and support your kind with financial assistance through extortion.

  23. Comrade Nom Deplume, Annoying Leftists for Over a Quarter of a Century says:

    Footrest,

    “even though admittedly Borowitz is often demonstrably very poor at [satire]”.

    Finally, something we agree on!!!

  24. Comrade Nom Deplume, Annoying Leftists for Over a Quarter of a Century says:

    Science says I’m less intelligent than the Footrest.

    Science can’t decide if Pluto is or is not a planet.

  25. Comrade Nom Deplume, Annoying Leftists for Over a Quarter of a Century says:

    Expat,

    “I wonder how many Sanders voters vote for Trump with raised middle fingers if they replace the evil cunt with Biden or Kaine.”

    A statistically insignificant number. I think that would actually bring in more disaffected voters. I’m no pollster but I am willing to bet that if you held a poll today, either man would poll above Hillary.

    Yes, you would lose some voters that would see this as an outright theft of the primary election but overall, it would be a net gain.

    How many democrats got BS’ed when Lautenberg got subbed in for the Torch?

  26. Comrade Nom Deplume, Annoying Leftists for Over a Quarter of a Century says:

    Speaking of Pluto, the littlest Deplume, my 7YO, was carrying on about Pluto on Saturday and discussing her reasoning for why it should be a planet. She was referring to mass and its ball-shape and used the term “clearing the neighborhood.” My wife had no idea what she was talking about. I understood the issue generally but never looked at the science and hadn’t heard the terms she was using. So I googled:

    ” . . .At the heart of the matter lies the question: What makes a planet in the solar system?

    According to the IAU’s definition, it must orbit the sun, it must be big enough for gravity to crush it into a nearly round shape, and it must clear the neighborhood around its orbit. In other words, it must be dominant enough to clear away objects in its orbital space, according to NASA.

    This last point is what proved to be Pluto’s demise as a planet: There are other competing objects in its orbit.

    Some scientists say that part of the definition doesn’t make sense.

    “It’s kind of like, I’m going to tell you what your car is on the basis of how the traffic around you is behaving,” said Mark Sykes, director of the Planetary Science Institute. . . . ”

    This from a 7YO. I asked her where she got this and she said “off the top of my head.” The wife disagrees and said it was an educational program.

    We red-shirted her for first grade. After a week, the school started making noise about moving her up to second.

    FWIW, she agrees with Director Sykes. Pluto should be a planet.

    Also, FWIW, she is technically a Jersey Girl, having been born in Livingston and raised initially in the Brig.

  27. Comrade Nom Deplume, Annoying Leftists for Over a Quarter of a Century says:

    Expat, what do you make of this?

    https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25404

    A Clinton staffer getting back to her on Provigil. I wonder why DOS at its highest level would have any interest in the international policy implications of this particular drug?

  28. grim says:

    So Hillary has about 16 different diseases?

  29. Comrade Nom Deplume, Annoying Leftists for Over a Quarter of a Century says:

    Grim,

    Not a doctor or scientist, but I would think you look at symptoms, drugs, and the occurrence of comorbidities.

    Issue isn’t really what does she have, it’s whether or not she is hiding something that most Americans would agree inhibits her ability to be effective as POTUS. Call me biased but I think that outweighs a candidate’s effective tax rate in a prior year or whether they took a writeoff for IP in an SPV.

  30. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Trump suffers from Foot In Mouth Disease.

  31. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    The right better hope SHE stays alive. IMO, just about anyone else from the left will easily get the vote over Trump. I know I’m dying for a better option. And judging by the nation’s mistrust issues with her, I am not alone. When the Otto’s chime in that they can’t vote for her, be careful what you wish for.

  32. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    I know one thing Hillary surely doesn’t have. Any kind of STD.

  33. Ben says:

    Science shows people with right wing tendencies have lower IQs.

    Ok there Ron Burgundy.

  34. Juice Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    re: “just about anyone else from the left will easily get the vote over Trump”

    Except the certification date that must include names or presidential and vice presidential candidates have passed already in many states, it would be one giant supernova of lawsuits to change the certifications now.

    Dead or Alive Hillary will be on the ballot.

  35. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    STEAM;

    I know one thing Hillary surely doesn’t have. Any kind of STD.

    Then again, Michael Douglass blamed his oral cancer on HPV. Hillary could have still more deaths on her… hands.

    On the other hand, STDs are what Bill’s entourage doctor is there to treat.

  36. Essex says:

    Blog = Trainwreck

  37. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Juice,

    My response assumes a successful replacement of Hillary on ballots. But your point is well taken.

  38. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Moose,

    If Huma develops oral cancer, we’ll know.

    We know it wouldn’t be from the Weiner

  39. Juice Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    Quarantine?

    “Everyone’s been sick,” a campaign source tells PEOPLE.

    At the end of August, two weeks before Clinton was diagnosed with pneumonia, a debilitating bug was making the rounds among staff at her headquarters and campaign aides who travel with Clinton, a source tells PEOPLE.

    At least half a dozen senior staff were felled, including campaign manager Robby Mook. Two top advisers even needed emergency medical treatment, the source says. One top adviser diagnosed at a Brooklyn urgent-care center with a respiratory infection was being treated with antibiotics in the days before Clinton’s diagnosis. Another top adviser was taken by ambulance to the ER by ambulance after collapsing from what turned out to be severe dehydration, the source said.

    http://www.people.com/article/hillary-clinton-staff-sick-pneumonia

  40. No One says:

    Libertarians are smarter than both Repubs and Dems on average, and aren’t running a horrible person for president, as each of those parties are.
    http://reason.com/archives/2014/06/13/are-conservatives-dumber-than-liberals

  41. Juice Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    Cokie Roberts: Some Democrats “Nervously Beginning To Whisper” About Replacing Hillary..

  42. Comrade Nom Deplume, Annoying Leftists for Over a Quarter of a Century says:

    No One,

    I did not get that conclusion from the article. Rather, it spoke of classical liberals as a subset of republicans with higher scores that resulted in Republicans overall testing higher than democrats.

    Notably, those advocating economic statism were lumped in with social conservatives. However the author did not “break out” economic statists from free market democrats (if there are any left). Had he done that, I think the data would be more useful.

  43. Comrade Nom Deplume, Annoying Leftists for Over a Quarter of a Century says:

    Redux,

    I should clarify: Econ. statists and Soc Cons were identified as lower scoring subsets, not tested or correlated together.

  44. Comrade Nom Deplume, Annoying Leftists for Over a Quarter of a Century says:

    Juice,

    I hope Cokie has a bodyguard.

  45. LOL. I just heard Newt Gingrich say this:

    The Clinton M.O. has always been this:
    Hide everything
    Deny everything
    Surround yourself with lawyers
    Tell everyone how transparent you are

  46. No One says:

    Comrade,
    The dumb people aren’t going to be able to understand that or care about it either.
    If these IQ vs political spectrum people wanted to really spark some excitement, they would run the analysis with race and income as factors as well, and put the minority welfare cases head to head against the white bible belt rednecks, then compare the Mother-Jones lefties against the WSJ-reading non-lefties. Of course the lefties have an advantage with most of the college professors and journalists on their team, so I suspect there’s a big IQ barbell on the left, a big lump of highly educated eggheads, offset by a barely educated, carefully cultivated government-handout dependent plantation population. The right may have a greater degree of central tendency with fewer extremes either way. I suspect outside of IQ, people on the right would tend to score higher on tests of “grit” and self-directedness that are often correlated to success in life.

  47. Fabius Maximus says:

    Quite funny. I don’t have a dog in the AFC.
    https://www.facebook.com/NFLonFOX/videos/1202143526490452/

  48. Comrade Nom Deplume, Annoying Leftists for Over a Quarter of a Century says:

    No one,

    I suppose also it would depend on the tests themselves. Different tests will produce different results even for the same cohorts.

    We belittle “rednecks” but are constantly amazed that they can hack-engineer tasks. They may not be able to solve a quadratic equation but they can turn pieces of junk into a serviceable appliance. Does that not require intelligence?

  49. Comrade Nom Deplume, Annoying Leftists for Over a Quarter of a Century says:

    Fabian,

    I loved it. Thanks for that.

    Okay, back to the mutual detesting.

  50. Comrade Nom Deplume, Annoying Leftists for Over a Quarter of a Century says:

    No One,

    ” I suspect outside of IQ, people on the right would tend to score higher on tests of “grit” and self-directedness that are often correlated to success in life.”

    I seem to recall hearing about a study that concluded precisely that. I don’t recall when but probably within the last year. I’d have to search it out though.

  51. Fabius Maximus says:

    Eddie Ray

    I don’t detest you, that would require me to expend effort on my part and honestly its not worth it to me. While I don’t respect you, I don’t go out of my to disrespect you, again that would also take effort.

    So put me down in the “don’t really care what you think category”, thats closer to where I am.

  52. That makes sense, actually. I have no problem cheering any AL team in the World Series, so long as it isn’t the Red Sox (or maybe whoever may have just eliminated the Yankees. Grrrr! Schmindians) ;-)

    Expat,

    “I wonder how many Sanders voters vote for Trump with raised middle fingers if they replace the evil cunt with Biden or Kaine.”

    A statistically insignificant number. I think that would actually bring in more disaffected voters. I’m no pollster but I am willing to bet that if you held a poll today, either man would poll above Hillary.

    Yes, you would lose some voters that would see this as an outright theft of the primary election but overall, it would be a net gain.

    How many democrats got BS’ed when Lautenberg got subbed in for the Torch?

  53. Comrade Nom Deplume, Le Deplorable. says:

    [51] rory,

    But detesting is so much more fun.

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