From the WSJ:
Court Orders N.J. Towns to Allow Affordable Housing
New Jersey towns and cities must accommodate unmet affordable-housing needs, the state Supreme Court said Wednesday in a unanimous decision that could greatly expand housing options for the state’s low- and moderate-income residents.
In a 6-0 decision written by Justice Jaynee LaVecchia, the Supreme Court ruled that towns and cities are constitutionally required to allow enough affordable housing to be built to satisfy needs that arose during a 16-year period when a state agency charged with enforcing housing laws failed to do its job.
“Municipal responsibility for a fair share of the affordable housing need of low- and moderate-income households formed during that period was not suspended,” Justice LaVecchia wrote.
New Jersey’s Council on Affordable Housing was created in 1985 to monitor and enforce constitutionally mandated affordable-housing requirements, but the agency has been plagued by bureaucratic and legal problems since 1999. In 2015 the state Supreme Court stripped it of its powers after determining that it had failed to enforce state housing laws.
The case was brought by the southern shore town of Barnegat, which had argued that it was unfair to hold towns and cities responsible for affordable-housing requirements that accrued between 1999 and 2015 when the state failed to enforce them. Barnegat was joined by nearly 300 other municipalities.
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Kevin Walsh, executive director for the affordable housing advocacy group Fair Share Housing Center, said his analysis shows that about 200,000 affordable housing units are needed to fulfill obligations spanning from 1999 to 2025, but the exact number likely will be worked out through litigation.“The municipalities don’t have to build the homes, the municipalities don’t have to fund the homes,” Mr. Walsh said. “All the municipalities have to do is remove the local red tape that prevents starter homes and apartments from being built.
Good Morning New Jersey
Grim I don’t understand a builder still has to make money after paying for the land, labor , and materials in some of these affluent areas. How does this stay affordable if the municipalities don’t have to fund the homes?
From NJBIZ:
N.J. employers add more jobs in December; unemployment rate continues to drop
New Jersey’s unemployment rate dropped again in December, according to preliminary figures released by the state Department of Labor and Workforce Development.
The department said estimates from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics found that the non-farm jobs in the Garden State grew by 3,100 and the unemployment rate dropped to 4.7 percent for the month.
“The year 2016 ended on a high note for the Garden State,” James Wooster, chief economist for the New Jersey Department of the Treasury, said in a prepared statement.
“The unemployment rate has dropped by 0.3 percentage point to 4.7 percent, the November preliminary estimate of employment gains was revised upward by 38 percent to 5,400 and December posted total job gains of 3,100. This is a good way to start the New Year, and there is every reason to expect continued growth over the upcoming year.”
The state’s labor force participation rate, which measures the number of people employed or actively seeking employment, continues to best the national rate, 63.4 percent to 62.7 percent, respectively.
Over the past year, New Jersey private sector employers added 14,800 jobs, making 2016 the seventh consecutive year of private sector growth in the state. The Garden State added 281,700 private sector jobs since February 2010, which was the recessionary low point.
Grim I don’t understand a builder still has to make money after paying for the land, labor , and materials in some of these affluent areas. How does this stay affordable if the municipalities don’t have to fund the homes?
The affordable units are typically built in conjunction with market-rate units as part of a larger project. The revenue/scale of the larger project permits the affordable units to be built, because of exactly the reason you cite, they wouldn’t be profitable to build otherwise.
Google “Builders Remedy” – it was put in place by Mt Laurel Doctrine, and gives developers the ability to sue municipalities to permit their projects if they contribute towards affordable housing requirements. This is the “teeth” that was required to force towns to comply, otherwise why would they?
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I don’t understand affordable housing. Tell me exactly why there is a need for it in wealthy towns? You are telling me that there is nothing affordable here in jersey? Oh I forgot, no one wants to live in the affordable towns, they want affordable housing in a wealthy town. Paradox, indeed.
It all goes to politically connected people anyway. Not the true working poor.
I mean why the fu!k should the wealthy ante up for the premium pricing? They are trying to get away from the problems that come with lower income individuals, and here they are forcing them to live with the people that they paid big money to not live with. Makes absolutely no sense at all.
Seriously, you are telling me that there are no affordable places to live in Jersey that you have to force affordable housing (aka people that can’t afford to live there) onto wealthy communities?
Why in the world would you want to live in a place you can’t afford? Why? So you can be looked down upon and made to feel like you don’t belong? Why?
@DavidFrum
The worst human being ever to enter the presidency,
and I include all the slaveholders.
Wow….
Why in the world would you want to live in a place you can’t afford? Why? So you can be looked down upon and made to feel like you don’t belong? Why?
Mike – there are mixed-income developments as Grim mentioned but also look to the federal Low-Income Housing Tax Credit and NJ State Housing Tax Credit. A 9% credit is offered through competitive bid and a 4% credit is an as-of right that is awarded with the allocation of bonds from the muni. So while there is no direct funding, we all fund it indirectly.
Why in the world would you want to live in a place where you were the only black or gay or Jew? Why? So you can be looked down upon and made to feel like you don’t belong? Why?
This is exactly why, dummy.
Of course the income limit in Morris and Somerset counties is like $60k for 2 people. That’s hardly destitute. Could be a teacher, nurse, cop, elderly person, waitress, etc.
Besides, rich towns can sell a lot of their affordable housing obligations to poor towns, unless that’s changed, so they end up not building much at all.
“Why in the world would you want to live in a place you can’t afford? Why? So you can be looked down upon and made to feel like you don’t belong? Why?”
You don’t agree? Why is it wrong to let pricing dictate who lives where? That is as fair as it comes.
Raymond Reddington says:
January 20, 2017 at 9:42 am
Wow….
Why in the world would you want to live in a place you can’t afford? Why? So you can be looked down upon and made to feel like you don’t belong? Why?
Dummy? Give me a break. Why don’t you go live in paterson if you think we all should live together. Why don’t you live in Irvington, hot shot?
Ottoman says:
January 20, 2017 at 9:48 am
Why in the world would you want to live in a place where you were the only black or gay or Jew? Why? So you can be looked down upon and made to feel like you don’t belong? Why?
This is exactly why, dummy.
Of course the income limit in Morris and Somerset counties is like $60k for 2 people. That’s hardly destitute. Could be a teacher, nurse, cop, elderly person, waitress, etc.
Besides, rich towns can sell a lot of their affordable housing obligations to poor towns, unless that’s changed, so they end up not building much at all.
“Why in the world would you want to live in a place you can’t afford? Why? So you can be looked down upon and made to feel like you don’t belong? Why?”
The pricing of a home is based on pure economics. If you can’t afford to live there, you don’t belong there. What’s next? Affordable cars? Oh you can’t afford this Land Rover, so let’s make a policy requiring Land Rover make an affordable truck for every 100 they build. Then give someone the lottery ticket to drive a Land Rover around at the price of a Honda.
It’s funny, these same affordable housing activists are the ones that complain when rich people move to a poor neighborhood and gentrify it. So they can complain of gentrification, but at the same time support affordable housing in the wealthy town. So they have no problem messing up the demographics of the wealthy town, but get pissed when the demographics of the poor town change when wealthy people move in. Can’t make this stuff up.
The one thing Pumpkin gets kinda right, and Footstool goes on a rampage.
Price controls and subsidies distort economies.
It’s as if the government dictated to all restaurants telling them that they must offer 10% of the main courses on their menu for $2. Insane, but sounds good to retards who think they can finally go have dinner at Jean Georges, thanks to their government regulator saviors.
Grim,
20% of your bottles have to be “affordable” and will cost no more than $3 per bottle. Everyone deserves their “fair share” of your product, after all.
That doesn’t even cover the taxes I need to pay to state and federal agencies.
LIVE stream of President Trump’s inauguration:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?421594-1/inauguration-donald-trump-45th-president-united-states&live
Grim,
Then you do what most in this situation do: charge the other 80% higher prices to cross-subsidize your government mandated discount product. Happens in multiple industries where the government forces prices down for some.
I remember they built them in Hopewell a few years back, which is a fairly wealthy town. About a year into it this happened.
http://www.trentonian.com/article/TT/20160314/NEWS/160319893
Piscopo’s All Over D.C. for Trump’s Inaugural Festivities
http://savejersey.com/2017/01/joe-piscopo-donald-trump-inauguration/
The pricing of a home is based on pure economics. If you can’t afford to live there, you don’t belong there. What’s next? Affordable cars? Oh you can’t afford this Land Rover, so let’s make a policy requiring Land Rover make an affordable truck for every 100 they build. Then give someone the lottery ticket to drive a Land Rover around at the price of a Honda.
I agree with the sentiment, but lets not kid ourselves about the purity.
Between FHA, selling mortgages to Fannie Mae, artificially low interest rates, 1st time home buyers credit, mortgage deduction….there’s a ton of interference in to the market that is purely designed to make real estate cost more.
How does affordable housing get appraised? Is it the same price as all 1400 sq ft homes in the area? What makes it affordable? If houses built are minimum 2,400 sq ft building 1,400 sq ft makes it affordable?
Does the ability to ‘sell’ the COAH obligation still exist, or was that struck down too?
Some serious poo going to hit the fan in one blue ribbon town. They just punted a Township Committee Exec Session COAH proposal to the Planning Board that would rezone 30 acres of farmland into 54 high end condos with a developer who would then build 100% COAH rental units on 3.8 acres of land that currently houses a skate park.
So, lose open space farmland for more condos in exchange for a sole COAH development on recreation space. Lose/lose.
BTW, the last time new condos went up in this town it was by the same developer, and similar type (two unit townhomes, $1.25m +/- purchase price). Took him eight plus years to get it through the adjustment/planning boards given local opposition. This time he gets court sanctioned rezoning for a very profitable project and a rental development as well. Probably break ground mid-next year.
COAH is a farking farce. This State is a farce – Mt Laurel, Abbott…. I can’t wait until my final kid (HS sophomore) is in college and I can get the he11 out of Dodge.
Jack Ma says US wasted Trillions of $ in warfare instead of building infrastructure
Okay d#ckhead, but you should move the conforming loan limit in No. Jersey back to 417k too, right? The government is artificially setting the pricing by allowing people to borrow more than afforded “poorer” areas and expect tax payers back it. Lets see how real estate performs in the “rich towns” at that point. Need a home in Brigadoon? Better save 300k. Should not be a problem as we bleed wealth all around.
Exactly. Here are some examples:
http://piazza-and-associates.com/afhousing.php?pa=franklinwelcome
The affordable units are typically built in conjunction with market-rate units as part of a larger project. The revenue/scale of the larger project permits the affordable units to be built, because of exactly the reason you cite, they wouldn’t be profitable to build otherwise.
My favorite part of the inauguration so far is Hillary’s face while she was still inside the Capitol. It was the dourest puss you’ve ever seen. As soon as she hit daylight she glued on her outside fake smile.
David Burge @iowahawkblog
The Committee to Re-Elect Trump already hard at work
https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/822468427533209600
Classy: Anti-Trump Protestors Block Uniformed Air Force Members From Entering Inauguration
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/01/20/classy-antitrump-protestors-block-uniformed-air-force-from-entering-inauguration-n2274485
The inauguration is boring. Watching protesters get pepper sprayed by the police and pummeled by bikers for trump is far more interesting.
Obama getting the last of his killing in while he still can. Too bad he didn’t think of this several years ago. Missouri-Libya-Missouri non-stop flight.
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/315030-us-b-52-bombers-strike-two-isis-camps-in-libya
Give me a break. Poor areas did it to themselves. Instead of taking care of their community, they let it go to sh!t. Who told them to throw garbage on the street or tag up the wall. Who told them to perform crimes and make the neighborhood unsafe? Is it wrong that the wealthy push themselves to get ahead and get away from this type of behavior in the poor areas? If the poor knew how to live, then rich people would not flee from their community. Give the poor an education, whether they take it or not, you have provided everything they need to get out of their current situation. Anything else is just overdoing it. You can’t give them everything. They have to strive and work hard to get ahead.
Remember, just because you are poor, you don’t have throw garbage anywhere you please and commit random acts of crime.. Have pride in your community. Make it a place worth living by having some pride. Being poor doesn’t mean you have to live like a lazy ahole and destroy your community so that no one wants to live there. Unfortunately, this is exactly what these people do, they destroy their community with their backwards behavior, and then they wonder why no one wants to live there and their properties are worth nothing. They did it to themselves by making the area unattractive to people with money.
God says:
January 20, 2017 at 11:16 am
Okay d#ckhead, but you should move the conforming loan limit in No. Jersey back to 417k too, right? The government is artificially setting the pricing by allowing people to borrow more than afforded “poorer” areas and expect tax payers back it. Lets see how real estate performs in the “rich towns” at that point. Need a home in Brigadoon? Better save 300k. Should not be a problem as we bleed wealth all around.
We will be friends to the world but priority is our interest first. Donald Trump
I want a job building the wall.
We will be friends to the world but priority is our interest first.
The American carnage stops right here,stops right now.
America First! DJT
Otto, lets hear you say it:
President Trump.
Come on, your therapist says it will be good for you.
Oh great, Twitidot and Ottoman are back together.
@Breaking911 4m4 minutes ago
All references to climate change have been deleted from the White House website.
1:40 — that’ll fix everything! Take that….Earth.,,,you cuck.
Good. Climate Change enthusiasts have turned into a cult with seemingly unlimited regulatory powers and surging access to the public purse. Politicized science always goes wrong. See the government diet recommendations from the “settled science” of the 1970s that convinced most to switch to margarine and pasta.
ONJExPat [11:47];
Missouri-Libya-Missouri non-stop flight.
That mission profile pre-dates Obama. There was a great story in Air & Space about the stateside AF Reserve crew that refueled these bombing runs out and in as they crossed the Atlantic shore (Thirty Hours, No Stops). The punch line from the refueling crew: “You guys need a better union.”
Of course one might wonder why Obama sent in stealth bombers to hit Libya. Libya itself is a headline foreign policy and undeclared war-making failure of his. He must have wanted to destroy something pretty badly. And does Libya really have the air defense ability to require a stealth technology strike? (No.) My guess – Obama sent stealth because he didn’t want any word of the strike leaking until the bombs exploded this AM.
Sad day for Mother Earth. Money over the health of our only habitat.
Yes, and liberals are the idiots. Can’t make this sh!t up!
Essex says:
January 20, 2017 at 1:52 pm
1:40 — that’ll fix everything! Take that….Earth.,,,you cuck.
Ask China what happens when you choose money over your habitat.
this all ends in tears…and sooner, not later
And everyone else is doing it(polluting), so why aren’t we? Gotta love that mindset. Think trump presidency is the nail in the bag for humans on this planet. Earth will survive, but we won’t.
*nail in the coffin
You mean China, where the Communist Party-run-government does the majority of the polluting? With government run banks giving loans to government-run steel makers to run their blast furnaces at a loss to keep people employed.
DC. Curb stomp ’em.
When almost all scientists agree that we are harming the earth, we instead choose to think it’s a conspiracy by liberals to take your money.
What I question to these deniers, is it easier to pay off a small percentage of scientists, or is it more difficult to pay off the majority of scientists? I’ll take my chances that the small majority have been paid off to come up with bs to attack the truth.
“The survey found 97% agreed that global temperatures have increased during the past 100 years; 84% say they personally believe human-induced warming is occurring, and 74% agree that “currently available scientific evidence” substantiates its occurrence.”
The Earth is 4.5 Billion years old, what percentage is 100 out of 4.5 Billion?
100 years is 0.000002% of the Earth’s history. Statistically relevant?
GIANT photos of President Trump’s inauguration ceremony:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/bigpicture/2017/01/20/the-inauguration-president-donald-trump/yOmaGOcgQidGOalKwoKhbO/story.html?p1=BP_Headline
They use the money to buy US real estate in NYC?
Ask China what happens when you choose money over your habitat.
Global Warming. Climate Change. Why can’t we just go back to calling it weather?
Global warming is a cycle. http://www.livescience.com/4180-sahara-desert-lush-populated.html
Pumps,
Maybe that is the way you feel about yourself, or the way you feel about others, that is internal.
Personally, I don’t ever feel “looked down upon” nor do I look down upon others.
I am not a wealthy person either. Just a working stiff like others…
“So you can be looked down upon and made to feel like you don’t belong?”
Pumpkin, here is the problem with trying to stop global warming or CO2 emissions for that matter. We can make coal illegal to burn here but the third world will buy as much as it can get when the price drops, if it is cheap enough it will be burned and there is not much we can do about it, US CO2 emissions are down 8% yoy, Chinese are up 15%, North America could reduce emissions a lot but so much is a result a large country with an inefficient transit network, large homes in climates requiring heating an cooling, so based on certain factors it would be quite painful to bring our emissions levels down to the level of western europe. Rather than create draconian regulation the government should incentivize efficient behavior, should subsidize and push the land bridge to move goods via train, reducing diesel truck traffic would have tremendously positive results, unfortunately the solution to climate change is always a tax according to the liberals rather than attacking your biggest culprits of transportation and industrial production, want to stop climate change…..stop buying junk from china produced with coal power, shipped thousands of miles on dirty container ships. Domestic production would help reduce CO2 emissions.
Unfortunately, it is not the same cycle. This cycle is different due to the extreme use of fossil fuels.
yome says:
January 20, 2017 at 2:57 pm
Global warming is a cycle. http://www.livescience.com/4180-sahara-desert-lush-populated.html
Yome,
Good perspective yes, weather changes and the environment changes. Humans have survived by adapting, moving and changing the environment. They once walked across the Russian/Alaska ice. They followed animals that migrated around the world. They learned to live in both deserts and arctic conditions. People now raft across riverbeds that were once covered in glaciers.
But now big-government types propose to for the first time ever, keep the whole world’s temperature exactly the same forever by telling everyone exactly how much and what kind of activities they are allowed to engage in. What a convenient excuse to give themselves more power over everyone.
As far as global warming..
Maybe it is just a cycle, maybe it is not.
Either way, it does appear to be accelerating.
Take something like coal, you burn it, you breathe it. Stick your head in it.
Maybe it does not cause global warming, but when you are choking you realize it can’t be good. Why not then try to minimize the use of it if possible? Same with other toxic things.
Also, someone tell me the reasoning behind the tariff on solar panels.
On Christmas, you can buy unlimited toys from China, along with millions of other products that don’t have any tariffs. Why not tariff toys? Why choose solar panels?
I am not against tariffs, neither is Trump. But why solar panels, something that generates energy. How many people would put solar on their homes if it was truly affordable, you know, payback in 3 years or so. Would that be possible without the tariffs?
Unfortunately, people only care about money, till that money can’t buy you clean water, clean air, and a clean food source. Humans as a species, are completely consumed by economics. Drunk off the paper money. The profit is more meaningful to them than the health of the planet. It’s simply mind blowing that we continue to abuse the planet in the name of profit.
Chinese have no problem wearing masks to breath. If that doesn’t get them to riot, I guess nothing will. They just accept the abuse and do nothing about it. Sad.
jcer says:
January 20, 2017 at 3:09 pm
Pumpkin, here is the problem with trying to stop global warming or CO2 emissions for that matter. We can make coal illegal to burn here but the third world will buy as much as it can get when the price drops, if it is cheap enough it will be burned and there is not much we can do about it, US CO2 emissions are down 8% yoy, Chinese are up 15%, North America could reduce emissions a lot but so much is a result a large country with an inefficient transit network, large homes in climates requiring heating an cooling, so based on certain factors it would be quite painful to bring our emissions levels down to the level of western europe. Rather than create draconian regulation the government should incentivize efficient behavior, should subsidize and push the land bridge to move goods via train, reducing diesel truck traffic would have tremendously positive results, unfortunately the solution to climate change is always a tax according to the liberals rather than attacking your biggest culprits of transportation and industrial production, want to stop climate change…..stop buying junk from china produced with coal power, shipped thousands of miles on dirty container ships. Domestic production would help reduce CO2 emissions.
3:15
Powerful post. Wish more people thought like you instead of complaining about the cost of investing in green technology. They don’t care about the cost to the planet, only care about the cost to their pocket. Sickening.
They also lived with no pollution. They could drink fresh water, eat fresh food, and breath fresh air. Now, there is nowhere to run. So when shi! hits the fan, it might be the end of our species.
Come on, look at the acceleration of extinctions happening to species in the past 100 years. Are we too immune from this extinction? We are killing the planet as we know it. Yes, humans are responsible for this enormous change taking place. It sure as hell is not the polar bear. The planet surely isn’t doing this on its own in some natural cycle. The changes have been put in place by us.
No One says:
January 20, 2017 at 3:11 pm
Yome,
Good perspective yes, weather changes and the environment changes. Humans have survived by adapting, moving and changing the environment. They once walked across the Russian/Alaska ice. They followed animals that migrated around the world. They learned to live in both deserts and arctic conditions. People now raft across riverbeds that were once covered in glaciers.
But now big-government types propose to for the first time ever, keep the whole world’s temperature exactly the same forever by telling everyone exactly how much and what kind of activities they are allowed to engage in. What a convenient excuse to give themselves more power over everyone.
Even when plumpty is right, he’s wrong.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/20/real_estate/trump-suspends-fha-premium-rate-cut/index.html
When almost all scientists agree that we are harming the earth, we instead choose to think it’s a conspiracy by liberals to take your money.
What I question to these deniers, is it easier to pay off a small percentage of scientists, or is it more difficult to pay off the majority of scientists? I’ll take my chances that the small majority have been paid off to come up with bs to attack the truth.
I’m a scientists. Global warming is real. It is occurring and is likely the result of CO2 emissions. The effects are over dramatized and this idea that we will have difficulty adapting to those changes in the crops we grow, our water supply, and general quality of life. In fact, I’ve already adapted. I’ve grown peppers into December for the 2nd time in two years. I like it.
Moreover, scientists have completely ignored the many benefits that would come along with a larger average temperature. The work scientists do is highly influenced by their source of funding, which right now, is primarily from the government in the form of grants. It pays better to sound the alarm and yes there are people that are severely biased and downright unethical on the global warming side.
Writing off the fact that global warming is occurring is ignorant. However, pretending that these shifts happen on a time scale that presents any sort of difficulty for us is completely ludicrous.
“100 years is 0.000002% of the Earth’s history. Statistically relevant?”
Look what happened to the land deniers when the earth was covered in water!
Back from Florida. It’s lovely down there this time of the year. Grim, if you can get those points at $11, keep ringing that bell.
Ben, I can jump on that. Good write up.
Hey Gary are we great yet?
http://jalopnik.com/bmw-commits-to-mexican-3-series-plant-despite-trump-tar-1791250961
Interesting piece on the Amazon jobs. I saw a study that basicly pointed out that these 100K jobs come at a cost of 250K jobs from the bricks and mortar stores.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2017/01/13/trump_deserves_no_credit_for_amazon_adding_100_000_jobs.html
The economy is changing, not necessarily in a good way.
What a speech. Can really see that one giving Lincolns a run for its money. I kept wondering if at some point he was going to say “God is our wingman”
This to me was the worst part.
“For too long, a small group in our nation’s Capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost. Washington flourished — but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered — but the jobs left, and the factories closed.”
The Irony in this is stunning. For all the taxes he never paid, the products he had made in China, the small businesses he stiffed down to the cabinet he put forward. It is just one be FU to the ones he claims he represents.
Are we great yet?. This crowd will make sure we are!.
Mnuchin failing to declare 100 Million, because those disclosure forms are “awfully complicated” puts Timmys Turbo Tax into perspective.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-cabinet-weak-vetting-233931?lo=ap_c1
Fab 7 42 maybe he changed his mind.
So what is it Fab? Was Trump that good or Clinton that bad?
“When all scientists agree…” means nothing……
Prior to the observations made by astronomer Edwin Hubble during 1920s, scientists believed the universe was static, neither expanding nor contracting. Hubble found that distant objects in the universe were moving more quickly away than nearby ones. Very recently, in 1999, scientists unexpectedly found that not only was the universe expanding, but its expansion was accelerating.
3b 7:58
Yea maybe he found Jesus and that explains the speech.
Stu
“Was Trump that good or Clinton that bad?”
I don’t know, I view it as, Clinton was torpedoed so bad the boat finally sunk.
This piece is the closest I have to an understanding.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/01/20/how_trump_won_–_conclusions_132846.html
Chuck has gone way up in my estimation. This is cold.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a52156/schumer-mcconnell-letter/?src=nl&mag=esq&list=nl_enl_news&date=011017
Hey Gary, Are we great yet?
All the garbage you have thrown over the past 8 years is coming right back at ya!
The best tweet I saw on the crowd levels were that attendance was down as the unemployment rate was coming off a 9 year low. Thanks Obama!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/01/20/inaugural-parade-crowd-size/96855252/
Eddie suffers from a lot of issues. Give him and the Donald a break. Betcha when they lay their little heads down on their monogramed pillows at night they quake a little knowing how freakin weird they really are.
Sun came up
Fab – all the Trump supporters were too busy working to go down to Washington to attend.
Fabius 7 :46,
How does one forget 100 million on a tax return?
I read those allegations in the article.
As much as I am not fond of paying taxes, I have never cheated on them.
Are there any honest politicians anywhere? Bernie was the closest, or was he, who knows. I wonder how many religious people will step into their chosen houses of worship this week only to emerge as unethical cretins as they exit..
@womensmarch
Today is the day.
We stand together, recognizing that defending the most marginalized among us is defending all of us.
#WomensMarch
The Irony in this is stunning. For all the taxes he never paid, the products he had made in China, the small businesses he stiffed down to the cabinet he put forward. It is just one be FU to the ones he claims he represents.
You can’t criticize those that move their manufacturing to China. I’ve been advocating tariffs since 2006. The environment has been created where an existing manufacturer has to compete with his competitor who now reduced his costs significantly by moving overseas. He has the option of either offering his product at an elevated price keeping it made in the USA or doing the same. One scenario makes the businessman wealthy, the other puts him out of business. Businesses have no choice which is why protectionism is necessary. Free trade doesn’t work in the favor of a nation when trading with a nation of a billion poor people. There is no trade. They don’t buy anything from us and their government actually suppresses their wages as a form of protectionism itself so we don’t even have free trade. Trump is the only person ever in the history of debates since Ross Perot to admit this. Hillary was questioned on NAFTA in 2008 and dodged the question. She dodged it again this year and realistically, the only thing that people care about in this world are having a good job.
Do you think anyone gives a crap about a Syrian refugee, gay marriage, or abortion when they are out of work?
Do being out of work gives you the right to be Protectionist, Nationalist, Isolationist, Unilateralist, Xenophobic, Nativist, Chauvinist, Angry, Depressing “America First”?
Ben says:
January 21, 2017 at 9:21 am
Do you think anyone gives a crap about a Syrian refugee, gay marriage, or abortion when they are out of work?
The poorgeoisie……most have plenty of money……
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poorgeoisie
Ben says:
January 21, 2017 at 9:21 am
Do you think anyone gives a crap about a Syrian refugee, gay marriage, or abortion when they are out of work?
Thought the same thing…..
Grim says:
January 21, 2017 at 8:10 am
Fab – all the Trump supporters were too busy working to go down to Washington to attend.
Also, when you aren’t rich, you don’t just drop several hundred $ to travel from Ohio and Michigan……
@PaulKrugman
Yes, it looks as if march will be bigger than inauguration,
but if real Americans cared how come Trump got more votes than HRC?
Oh, wait.
chicagofinance says:
January 21, 2017 at 10:30 am
Also, when you aren’t rich, you don’t just drop several hundred $ to travel from Ohio and Michigan……
President Trump inaugural highlights, GIANT photos…
http://www.trbimg.com/img-588279af/turbine/ct-trump-inauguration-eve-gallery-20170119-065
http://www.trbimg.com/img-588244ed/turbine/chi-trump-inauguration-wre0046224323-20170120
http://www.trbimg.com/img-588263c3/turbine/ct-trump-inauguration-eve-gallery-20170119-052
http://www.trbimg.com/img-588165e6/turbine/ct-trump-inauguration-eve-gallery-20170119-018
http://www.trbimg.com/img-5882f6d5/turbine/ct-trump-inauguration-eve-gallery-20170119-102
Protectionism has nothing to do with nationism or xenophobia. The only xenophobia I see is that directed at Russia
Can’t be great yet. Trump already said he was going to take the weekend off. He’s been on the job for twelve hours and already needs a break. Low energy. Sad.
Sinatra would have kicked trumps a$$ for using his song last night.
Ben 9:21
I disagree. You can have manufacturing here and compete. Take a look at Lodge Cast Iron in TN. They sell a quality product 100% American Made. They could have outsourced offshore, maintained quality to cut their costs. They didn’t and they maintain a happy health workforce and strong sales.
Look at the likes of Germany. They produce world class products like Optics. Japan as well, lots of specialized manufacturing that China can’t really compete against.
During the OCare debates I heard one small business owner sum it up. He said he was proud of the benefits he provided to his staff. Giving his staff good healthcare, gave back to himself. That’s what is missing in this country.
If were posting pictures.
http://imgur.com/gallery/Y7Zpt
From my FB feed.
To Trump supporter: “So, what brings you here today?”
In deep South Carolina accent “Well, he’s the incoming president with the lowest approval ratings ever, so I thought I’d come and give him my support.”
I’ve been working the last 16 of 24 hours. I just watched the inauguration speech. He sounds like a guy that can give a f.uck if you like him or not. Good. Awww… what’s wrong you little snowflakes, you still weepy over the fact that your side doesn’t even exist any longer? Does your little puss1es hurt? Go in your safe rooms, breathe some flavored oxygen, wish upon a star and form a new political party for misfits.
Tywin,
Those picture are magnificent!
Imagine trying to explain yourself to the liberal mind? It’s like asking a four year old to dissect Bernoulli’s equation. LOL!
Bernie—“Trump’s Big Lie: In his inaugural address, Mr. Trump talked about taking on the Establishment and standing up for working people. Meanwhile, right behind him in the V.I.P. section of the inaugural stands, were corporate tycoons and cabinet nominees worth tens of billions of dollars. Oh, yes. This “anti-establishment” president raised at least $100 million from some of the most powerful special interests in the country for his inaugural events. Mr. Trump is not an anti-establishment president. He and his billionaire friends ARE the establishment and the American people will learn that very soon.”
Bernie does have a point there
This is concerning.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/20/womens-march-canada-protesters-denied-entry-us
Police state anyone? Why do I feel like we are heading towards a facist state?
“The official WhiteHouse.Gov website was immediately updated when President Trump was inaugurated, and it now displays a promise to law enforcement.”
http://bluelivesmatter.blue/white-house-website-police-issues/
What to Expect from Trumponomics: QuickTake Scorecard – Bloomberg
https://apple.news/ABl4kLuC7QTq-5iipJqHV3g
I disagree. You can have manufacturing here and compete. Take a look at Lodge Cast Iron in TN. They sell a quality product 100% American Made. They could have outsourced offshore, maintained quality to cut their costs. They didn’t and they maintain a happy health workforce and strong sales.
I love Lodge and have 3 products from them. That being said, the cast iron pan industry is a highly automated one that doesn’t involve much human capital. You can’t site the exception to the rule to prove a point. For every Lodge, there are 25 companies that left.
They don’t make small batch artisan cast iron pans in Brooklyn yet?
As far as Japan goes, they are a prime example of how protectionism does prevent a nearby nation of a billion poor people pillaging your industries. George Washington’s first order of business was signing a tariff into place. This country became the richest country in the world under 200 years of tariffs.
There are plenty examples in history of one way trade destroying the standard of living of a nation. I’d like someone to show me the example of an industrialized nation’s standard of living declining amid protectionism.
They don’t make small batch artisan cast iron pans in Brooklyn yet?
No, they just take 100 year old ones and sell them as vintage. Seriously though, I knew a guy who would just go to the flea markets and buy all the old cast iron ware that all looked like it came from the early 1900s. It looked disgusting. He would run a surface treatment on it and scrub them down. He would have them all shining like new and then resell them.
It’s been the strangest political season I’ve seen, bar none.
@ezraklein
Trump’s real war isn’t with the media.
It’s with facts.
@nytimes
There were protests in cities across the globe,
from Manila to Ciudad Juárez, Mexico,
against President Trump.
“The mixed reaction reflected the global uncertainty about what a Trump presidency would look like — and the divided world into which he steps. A fractured landscape of self-interest — whether from rising nationalist movements in many European countries, an emboldened Russia or longstanding allies such as Britain or Japan — underscored the confused, and often contradictory, responses. He is, in some ways, a Rorschach test for a polarized world.”
I don’t think people realize how oddly dreadful New Jersey is…..
The lede is social engineering at its best (or worst).
If the torches and pitchforks don’t come out now, you’re best to write off NJ
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go put blocks of C-4 and detcord on the Delaware river crossings
Gluteus,
Check your real news sources. The photos going around lie. A liberal took it at 8:40 am and tried to pass it off as just before the speech
Nice try. Isn’t it unfortunate that the internet cuts two ways?
There’s s small part of me that hopes your side brings your resistance crap here.
Here being my county.
Tone deaf wife was planning spring break vacation and asked me about Mexico. She figured that since I took up diving and spoke Spanish, it made sense. I shot that down quicker than the Donald could change the WH website
“The CIA today, instead of honoring the 117 people behind him where he was speaking, he talked about the size of the crowd. That’s worrisome. That’s worrisome. I’d just feel better if someone was in that position that showed the maturity and psychological and emotional level of someone that was his age. It’s dangerous and it doesn’t do us any good.”
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/01/gregg-popovich-womens-marches-trump-protest-spurs-president
“Popovich calling out White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer, Trump’s counselor Kellyanne Conway and White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, and saying why the reaction to what Trump has said “scares the hell” out of him:
“And what really bothers me are the people around him, the Sean Spicers, the Kellyanne Conways the Reince Priebuses, who know who he is and actually have the cynical approach and disingenuous attitude to really defend him and make him look like he didn’t say what he said. When he’s mad at the media for them reporting what he said, it just boggles my mind. When Kellyanne Conway said the other day he wasn’t really making fun of the handicapped person. It’s incredible. It really makes you wonder how far would someone go to actually cover for somebody that much. I think the comment was,’ You have to look in his heart. You don’t know what’s in his heart. He wouldn’t do that.’ But he did it.
“And all the things he said during that time, if our children would have said it, we would have grounded them for six months. Without a doubt. But we ignore all that, because … because why? That says something about all of us. And that’s what’s dangerous. That’s what scares the hell out of me to this day and makes me uneasy.””
Pumps, Canada is a 6 hour drive. Seek asylum
Nom, be honest, would you allow your child to behave like that? So why do you accept this type of behavior from a 70 year old leader of your nation? I think most of us would be fired from our jobs if we said a quarter of what has came out of his mouth in the past year.
He should respect the Presidential position. His behavior and tweets are a disrespect to the most important position in our country. Our kids are supposed to look up to this guy as role model. As much as you guys bash obama, between him and trump, who carried themselves as a role model? A good family man? Trump is a sugar daddy with a model that is 24 years younger than him. He has had a kid with three different wives. Trump is like a ghetto dad who doesn’t know how to be a man in a relationship. Great role model. Love how the First Lady described first meeting trump…..he was on a date with some other girl and tried to get my number. Classy trump, classy.
The president should not be tweeting, period. It’s too got damn dangerous. But what do I know.
Typical of trump. Now he didn’t have a feud with the CIA….the media made it up. Really can’t make this shit up.
“Even some Republican lawmakers have been at a loss to understand Trump’s suspicions about the intelligence findings. South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, who has frequently clashed with Trump, said that “when it comes to Russia, he seems to have a blind spot.”
On Saturday at the CIA building, though, Trump claimed it was all a made-up controversy, fake news.
Accompanied by National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and his nominee to lead the CIA, Mike Pompeo, Trump said the media “are among the most dishonest people on Earth,” Trump said. “And they sort of made it sound like I had a feud with the intelligence community. The reason you’re the number one stop is exactly the opposite.””
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-22/trump-pilgrimage-to-cia-detours-into-denial-of-months-long-feud
The liberals tried to boycott the damn inauguration and the liberal press took wide angle camera shots to embarrass our new President. Either attending or watching the damn inauguration should be compulsory. I’d like to see a damn do over where people are forced to attend and watch. When I say watch, I mean the whole damn thing including the damn balls. Those damn liberals who boycotted should be forced into front row seats and chained in the damn seat if need be. Put a damn diaper on them cause their ass will be sitting there for the duration without a bathroom break. That will teach them.
Actually, Trump wasn’t addressing the size of the crowd, but rather the media lying about the size of the crowd, and he also mentioned the media lying about the removal of MLK’s bust from the Oval Office. This is going to be a very painful 8 years for the “mainstream” media (97% of which vote democrat) and their failed attempts at misinformation and creating a narrative.
The CIA audience was VERY enthusiastic about his comments (link to video below) and it’s WORRISOME the media would misreport about his CIA visit as well.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/01/21/trump_visits_cia_i_am_so_behind_you.html
“The CIA today, instead of honoring the 117 people behind him where he was speaking, he talked about the size of the crowd. That’s worrisome.”
My crowds are HUGE. Do these crowds look small to you? Do you? HUUUGE. You should see the size of my feet, I have no problem with crowds.
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