Slow slog upwards

Updated Vaccination by Age Range for NJ:
7/17 vs 7/29

At Least 1 Dose
Total Pop: 9.2m
Total 1st Doses: 5.7m – 62% of total pop (Up from 61%) – Bloomberg reporting 65.6%

12-15 – 450k population – 171k dosed – 38% 1 Dose (Up from 37%)
16-17 – 240k population – 114k dosed – 48% 1 Dose (Up from 47%)
18-29 – 1.5m population – 855k dosed – 57% 1 Dose (Up from 52%)
30-49 – 2.4m population – 1.65m dosed – 69% 1 Dose (Up from 68%)
50-64 – 2m population – 1.54m dosed – 77% 1 Dose (Up from 76%)
65-79 – 1.1m population – 1.03m dosed – 93% 1 Dose (Down from 96%)
80+ – 415k population – 342k dosed – 82% 1 Dose (Up from 81%)

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96 Responses to Slow slog upwards

  1. DollarBill says:

    First – too easy

  2. grim says:

    That 18-29 group is really the positive story in the numbers, that was the only material increase I think, the rest is noise and rounding errors.

    Also positive, week over week we saw first time vaccinations increase, for the first time since peak vax.

    We’re getting awfully close to the start of the school year without seeing the 12-17’s start moving up at rate that would have a meaningful proportion of students fully vaccinated by the start of the school year. Let alone having 2-3 weeks post shot 2 for maximal effectiveness.

    Why the state/counties/districts aren’t running campaigns around this is mind boggling. There almost isn’t time to complete a 2-dose course before day 1 anymore.

    The college kids (18-29) are eligible for the single dose vax, while those younger are not, that’s a big difference in the window of opportunity.

    Start of the school year is going to be a shitshow at this rate. Dust off the chromebooks and don’t turn your home-school rooms back into dining rooms. Starting to wonder if the shitshow is a necessary pre-requisite for changing parents minds.

  3. Juice Box says:

    Panic is back…

    Twitter announces it is closing its New York and San Francisco offices indefinitely and pausing reopening of other locations following updated CDC warnings about the COVID Delta variant

  4. grim says:

    Concerning that the CDC comments regarding viral load in vaccinated individuals is not supported by any peer reviewed research or even preliminary research “published” on a preprint site (arXiv, etc).

    People were chattering yesterday about an odd footnote in the CDC recco, and I see WaPo just ran a story on it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/breakthrough-infections-cdc-data/2021/07/28/dcaaa6b2-efce-11eb-a452-4da5fe48582d_story.html

    Look, I understand the benefits of seeing a trend and acting on it with a sense of urgency, but this kind of thing is an underhand pitch to the FUD crew.

    CDC saying that the data will be published imminently – ok, fine, but why wasn’t this done in conjunction in the first place, if it was that easy? Suspect researchers are now scrambling to put something together that supports the hypothesis, and we know what kind of science that is.

  5. Juice Box says:

    Grim – It’s timed nicely with Pfizer’s study that we all all need booster shots after 6 months.

    In a study posted online but not yet peer-reviewed or published in a scientific journal, Pfizer and BioNTech scientists reported that the vaccine had a sky-high efficacy rate of about 96 percent against symptomatic Covid-19 for the first two months following the second dose. But the figure declined by about 6 percent every two months after that, falling to 83.7 percent after about four to six months.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1

  6. Juice Box says:

    More on the booster shots there was an article in nature about it a few months ago. My understanding of immunity is once the infection is no longer present the anti-SARS-CoV-2 serum antibodies decrease rapidly in the first few months after infection but your Long-lived bone marrow plasma cells will keep it in “memory” and keep churning out antibodies for decades. A booster shot won’t hurt per say but necessary? Only time will tell.

  7. Libturd says:

    83.7 is more than enough efficacy to get Covid down to a controllable amount.

    People just need to get vaccinated. It’s really Moron Island time for those who won’t.

    Just imagine if a new variant develops that would make everything we’ve done so far moot.

    I want my choice. I want my choice. You don’t get your choice when it’s just plain stupid! Of course these same morons on the right espousing choice are against medically assisted death and abortion. Don’t you dare tell me what to do with MY body. But here is what you CAN’T DO with YOURS. Just so stupid. All of this amounting to Trump’s legacy. And the party is doubling down. Just so incredibly stupid.

  8. Libturd says:

    JCer,

    Nothing personal as always. Your final post last of last night reeks of narrative (I won’t call it political bias).

    The 1/6 freaks were breaking and entering a building known to contain the leaders of the country. Forget politics. They are lucky they all weren’t shot. If this was nearly any other country in the world, they would have been. Don’t kid yourself that this was not well orchestrated. That is what the investigation will flush out. If you watch any of the videos, the vast majority of the so-called protestors were donning all types of military protection equipment. From gas masks to bulletproof vests. Many had pepper spray too. The intent was clearly to stall the election confirmation. Too deny this is silly. This was not a protest simply to bring attention to a cause. Had they gotten their hands on Pelosi or any other Dem, I fear for what they would have done to them after looking at their treatment of the cops that day. Sure a protester threw a bottle or two and maybe even some rocks at the cops in the city protests. You can’t ever stop the few bad apples. But this was a damned orchard of bad apples. They were looking for a fight and were well prepared for one.

    Politicized courts? Sorry, but that works both ways. Our Supreme Court looks more like the board of large Catholic Church than anything else. Can’t have it both ways.

    Rittenhouse? Deathwish for a deathwisher.

    As for the Republican choices for the investigation? It was clear the Republicans were playing games with their choices. They chose the two most election fraud believing, publicly lying, Trump supporting reps, that they had. They would have had a better chance of Pelosi accepting their choices had they selected Jake Angeli and Trump himself to the panel. It was clear those two would have never ruled reasonably and would have done nothing but wasted the time of the committee. Pelosi clearly had no choice.

  9. Hold my beer says:

    Texas had over 10,000 new cases yesterday for the first time since feb 11th.

    Dallas county reported 989 new cases, the highest since early February and 5 deaths. The age has dropped a lot for deaths . 60s were usually the youngest, yesterday it was the oldest death in Dallas county.

    https://www.wfaa.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-numbers/covid-19-updates-dallas-north-texas-county-and-texas-both-report-highest-number-of-daily-cases-since-early-february-july-28/287-3ac08622-8f32-4a17-94b6-de1e34d5e920

    I suspect we will get as bad as January in September or October . School starts in a few weeks.

  10. grim says:

    Keep in mind, exposure is a “booster shot” of sorts. We have a whole other population set of vaccinated, exposed, and possibly asymptomatically infected individuals who will have an entirely different kind of immune response to future exposure.

  11. Juice Box says:

    Grim – we cannot have that, people that are vaccinated who get infected should be told they are spreading it and carriers, and need to quarantine, and test until there is no more detectable virus in their bodies….

    When does Apple come out with a new device to measure antibodies, and when you fall below a certain threshold the device triggers an extrafollicular plasmablast?

    Lots of tech and solutions for all of this, the race is on for the pill forms of these vaccines and treatments. One a day antivirals…What could go wrong?

  12. grim says:

    There are lots of vaccines that require a 3 dose course to be fully effective, Hep, MenB, Hib, HPV. Not sure that this is such a shocker. I think what we’re all hoping for is that it doesn’t require annual vaccination, like Flu. However, a combined Flu+Covid Booster doesn’t necessarily seem terrible from a logistics perspective, in fact the combined vax will probably have a higher overall take rate than Flu alone. The quicker we get to an understanding of this, the better.

    No doubt that MRNA is going to revolutionize the way we approach Flu vaccines too..

    https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-first-participant-dosed-phase-12-study-its

  13. BidenistheGOAT says:

    Impressive screed, but vaccines don’t prevent the spread. Covid is not going away due to vaccines. Time to accept it.

  14. Juice Box says:

    My take is they are all now saying the antibodies triggered by ALL COVID-19 vaccines decline below some threshold from around six months. But isn’t this the case with any antibody response?

    Our bodies normally don’t churn out massive amounts of anti-bodies when there is no infection…..I see this as a a way to keep the gravy train rolling, for example Pfizer sold about 34 billion in Covid-19 vaccines so far. They won’t be able to replace that revenue if there is no need for boosters…

  15. Libturd says:

    “Impressive screed, but vaccines don’t prevent the spread”

    Keep on deceiving. The only game the populists know how to play.

  16. leftwing says:

    JCer, nice writeup last night. Well reasoned, factually supported, specific examples used to support points made.

    Wish I could say same for some responses which contained world views (rather than analysis) that don’t conform to facts.

    Don’t bother…I’ve stopped posting on some topics….even people who one would expect to be better reasoned have their minds made up on certain topics and you are not going to change them. The irony, of which they are totally oblivious of course, is that while they do that they accuse you of the same.

    “JCer you just wrote some of the most disgusting tripe I’ve read on here.

    STOP CONFUSING ME WITH FACTS!!!!

  17. Libturd says:

    I’ve gotten the flu shot every year since my mid twenties (when I last had the flu). What a sucker I am.

  18. Libturd says:

    I did the math too. Our family has a collective 75 years of consistent flu shot taking. We also have never gotten the flu over these 75 years. Must be luck since vaccines don’t prevent the spread.

  19. leftwing says:

    “Starting to wonder if the shitshow is a necessary pre-requisite for changing parents minds.”

    Or perhaps one could:

    Have an honest, factual discussion on the actual relative risks to children in that age cohort of taking the vaccine versus contracting the virus and achieving natural immunity, AND

    Have actual data and a study on the effects and efficacy (if any) of injecting a young child who already contracted the virus with two doses of vaccine.

    Or they can keep the current game plan of screaming at parents like they are six years old, attempt public shaming, and lock society down. Because, you know, that’s worked so well so far….smh

  20. Ex says:

    Left wing you reek of something? Oh yeah,
    It’s bullshit.

  21. Fast Eddie says:

    Q2 GDP, seasonally adjusted annualized quarter-over-quarter: 6.5% vs. 8.4% expected and a downwardly revised 6.3% in Q1

    All that stimmy money and this is how the dem toadies salute the Collective? Wait until they force you to mask up again.

  22. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Politics is a b!tch, and don’t think for one second you are immune from this disease called partisan politics that is infecting our population.

    “Don’t bother…I’ve stopped posting on some topics….even people who one would expect to be better reasoned have their minds made up on certain topics and you are not going to change them. The irony, of which they are totally oblivious of course, is that while they do that they accuse you of the same.”

  23. Ex says:

    Oh look more of the stench that is the GOP today.

    Back in December, Brooks was the first House Republican to say ahead of the congressional Electoral College certification that he would object to certain states’ electors. On the day of the certification, Jan. 6, he then gave a fiery speech at President Donald Trump’s rally at the Ellipse where he told the assembled crowd that “today is the day American patriots start taking down names and kicking ass!” Months later, he still argues that Trump would have won the election if only “lawful votes” were counted.

  24. Fast Eddie says:

    Then again, when you force us to use foreign energy while choking our own ability, throw trillions of printed paper from a ‘copter, prices of everything tend to double. Even if they tried to explain that to the Demented One, he would probably just ask for ice cream.

  25. Ex says:

    9:21 mask up again? Oh the horror.
    Maybe you can pray it away ?

  26. leftwing says:

    “Left wing you reek of something? Oh yeah, It’s bullshit.”

    You should practice being nicer….pleasant stoners are so much more amenable than angry, paranoid ones.

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  28. Ex says:

    9:33 keep on thinking those happy thoughts shitbag.

  29. Libturd says:

    Just received an email from my companies CEO. She too must be a dummy. Our very limited return to office plan was just suspended indefinitely. Was called initially for September 1st. So many stupid people. If we all just listened to the Goat. We could be like India. Can’t tell you how many developers we lost in the past months due to Covid.

  30. leftwing says:

    “Back in December, Brooks was the first House Republican to say ahead of the congressional Electoral College certification that he would object to certain states’ electors.”

    One of those slippery facts that you ignore as you arrogantly presume your opinion/worldview is baseline….

    Doing so was not just his Constitutional right, but also in his case his Constitutional obligation…US law has highly specific provisions for the better part of 150 years for exactly this situation and how it is to be addressed.

    Far from being the shameful, awful, egregious, death-to-the-Republic act portrayed in MSM it is entirely contemplated, codified, and has occurred in the past. Like the laws governing any commercial transaction you would enter.

    But of course rather than focusing on facts, law, and history shrill liberals would just rather be, well, shrill.

  31. leftwing says:

    The liberals on the forum today are in downright ornery moods….what’s wrong, did you not get your daily bitch slapdown from Nancy, MSDNC, and Fauci informing you of what you think to make you obedient and compliant, putting you in your rightfully subservient role?

  32. Fast Eddie says:

    Maybe you can pray it away ?

    You’re a piece if shit. A real piece of shit.

  33. Ex says:

    Ahhhh let the stupidity flow through you.

    Breathe it in.

  34. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wow, NHMD is alive. Has not been a sec filing in 2 years…no longer delinquent on reporting to sec. Up 68% today. I’m going to laugh my ass off if I end up making money on this. Left it for dead.

  35. leftwing says:

    “Ahhhh let the stupidity flow through you. Breathe it in.”

    Pleeeaase Nancy, tell me what to think today, I feel so unanchored and adrift!

  36. Ex says:

    Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) said Wednesday that the vast majority of his Republican colleagues don’t believe ex-President Donald Trump’s election lies, even though they may continue to peddle them in public.

    “Save one or two maybe out here, nobody ― and I think it’s very important to repeat ― nobody actually believes the election was stolen from Donald Trump, but a lot of them are happy to go out and say it was,” Kinzinger told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.

  37. Libturd says:

    Pumps. Keep in mind, the second you try to sell, it’s going to drop. Especially if it’s a significant position.

  38. The Great Pumpkin says:

    More than enough volume to liquidate…this is the beginning stages of a major pump. Has to be. The charts alone will bring a bunch of technical momentum traders.

  39. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Whatever, this is dead money to me. Wrote it off a long time ago. Crossing my fingers and hope I get lucky.

  40. chicagofinance says:

    Hate to break the news, but studies show that brisket is a natural anti-virulent.

    Libturd says:
    July 29, 2021 at 9:10 am
    I’ve gotten the flu shot every year since my mid twenties (when I last had the flu). What a sucker I am.

  41. Bystander says:

    If only we could a real libertarian view on this forum instead of “I’m really a typical Republican, but can’t defend insane spending, loss of personal liberties and govt expanson under R leadership..but I really like not being taxed, so I will say I am libertarian to wash it away” type.

  42. leftwing says:

    If that’s directed at me, I’ll play.

    I do not hold ‘typical’ R views….

    To a few posters’ favorite theme on here re: personal choice hypocrisy, I’ll take on the vaccine. And on abortion too. And gay rights.

    What you do with your moneymaker and the ramifications thereafter are as little my business as what is stuck in my kid’s arm is yours.

  43. JCer says:

    Ex, I think most thinking people realize Trump is full of it with a lot of his ridiculous claims. That being said what was done during the election was a travesty and a lot of those people have righteous indignation. Things were done in a way to skew the election results, they were illegal and no one faced consequences for them. Does it change the outcome, probably not, but it was wrong and the voters expect the GOP Clowngress critters to hold the democrats accountable for what occurred. This idea that you don’t control the legislature so you’ll change laws using executive fiat or through bureaucratic agencies IS the threat to Democracy.

    Again on Jan 6th they should prosecute anyone engaged in violence to the fullest extent possible, same for those engaged in property destruction. But they also need to respect these people’s constitutional rights, they need to conduct real trials based on evidence and witnesses and any sentences given need to commensurate with the crimes committed, meaning if all they can prove is trespassing they should not be sending people to jail for a year for that. We cannot charge these people with thought crimes.

    By the logic of some of the people here we should do away with public defenders, due process, etc. Perhaps we should hunt gang members with extra-legal paramilitary forces and murder them on the spot because they are enemies of the state!

    Lib follow the science on the flu vaccine, the data doesn’t lie. If you are at risk of complications or the jab does not effect you go ahead it’s better than catching the flu. This vaccine(Pfizer) worked very well against the original variants but it seems to have poorer efficacy against Delta but the government is doubling down on their BS rather than being honest. It is the lack of forthright conversation that encourages the vaccine hesitancy, using Goebbels style propaganda isn’t working it is just causing people to dig their heels in. Some protection is better than nothing but Delta seems to have thrown cold water on the idea that we were ending this thing. Prior to Delta I think between natural immunity and vaccines we were approaching herd immunity. It seems like this variant is different enough to reinfect those with immunity.

  44. JCer says:

    Bystander I am not a republican, I wanted Gary Johnson to be president not Trump, I thought he was by far the best presidential candidate we’ve had in decades. I’m not even anti-tax, I am anti-waste. The government is horribly ineffective at almost everything it does so an expansion of the government is almost never the answer. What I find alarming about the democrats is they have been inching closer and closer to authoritarian over the past 2 decades. Every inch of authority they gain they grip very tightly and are closing down on us. I’m a liberal in the true sense of the word, the government should not impinge on an individual’s rights, that is sacrosanct and even if the face of a pandemic which is only fatal in 1-2% of cases we cannot cede our rights to tyranny. Those who trade liberty for security deserve neither. The Cuban’s initially thought the Castro regime was going to “liberate” Cuba, they gave them power, it was too late when the walls started closing in short time.

  45. Phoenix says:

    Jcer,
    Why are the “crimes” committed at the Capitol any different from the crimes not committed there?
    They will go after each and every one of them for one reason. It’s the government they attacked.
    If if were you or me no one is going to put in the time or investigate anything. That is what disgusts me. The hypocrisy of it. How we pick and choose what is a crime or not based on who the “victim” is, who they know, or how they are connected.

  46. Phoenix says:

    “I’m a liberal in the true sense of the word, the government should not impinge on an individual’s rights, that is sacrosanct and even if the face of a pandemic which is only fatal in 1-2% of cases we cannot cede our rights to tyranny.”

    Or just come to your apartment late at night, “forget” to announce you are the police, and tase an innocent man based on the words of one lying female, have him fall, hit his head, have a stroke, and then, after all of that, tamper with evidence and try to frame him.

    The government is getting better and better on infringing on people’s rights, to the point it is starting to murder them at will.

    Courtesy of LW:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jculrAHdVHc

  47. Hold my beer says:

    Odd how lots of these angry anti maskers I’ve seen videos of haves faces that could trigger menopause.

  48. Libturd says:

    JCer,
    I agree somewhat on the causes of vaccine hesitancy. But I’ve also heard a lot of really stupid people follow the wrong advice of their political pundits on Fox and NewsMax.

    Here are the simple facts.

    Every one of us has received 16 or more vaccines already with virtually no ill effects. It is a fact that vaccines are responsible for the control and near termination of the infectious diseases they were designed to eliminate.

    It is also a fact that if a vaccine was to elicit a negative reaction, it would do so nearly immediately after inoculation. This is based on a very long history of vaccinations performed billions of times in history.

    It is also a fact that although vaccinations are not 100% effective, they improve the likelihood of your survival and significantly reduce your odds of even becoming majorly sick.

    It is also a fact that the longer an infectious disease is around, the greater the likelihood of variant strains to develop. Some with the potential to be much more fatal. The unknown here is huge and ignored by the deceptive right for it does not fit their narrative.

    It almost appears like you are on a mission to look for any piece of miniscule evidence to support your far-fetched theories on this pandemic.

    The simple scientific truth is that you are better off taking the vaccine for both the personal benefit and for societies benefit. Just as people took their other 16 vaccines almost universally without complaint.

    Like Grim, I was a pro-vaccine nut long prior to the advent of Covid 19. The risks of a life threatening (though most are treatable) with this vaccine are about 1 in 400,000. The risk of dying from Covid in the US is about 1 in 535. This ignores age, comorbidities and advances in the treatment of those infected. Nonetheless, older people, those with comorbidities (my father and son, ie) that were no fault of their own and those whose occupations but them in close social contact with a lot of different people all will continue to suffer from isolation due to the selfishness and ignorance of those who don’t believe the science. And again, why are we giving Covid 19 more time to develop a potentially more dangerous variant?

    My position is clearly not political. It is based on science, much like mask wearing and social distancing.

    The most difficult thing to understand is how the leaders on the right are nearly all vaccinated, yet they are telling you to exercise your choice. They celebrate the quickness of the vaccination release as the shining moment of their administration, but don’t feel you should take it.

    Really. How stupid do they sound? And how stupid are those who listen to them?

    There is ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION THAT YOU ARE BETTER OFF BEING VACCINATED THAN NOT!

    Stop being a political pawn.

  49. Libturd says:

    JCer,

    How would Cuba had performed had they not been subject to our sanctions? It is impossible to know.

  50. Libturd says:

    HMB,

    You are a riot.

  51. joyce says:

    Phoenix,
    You. are. welcome. You are going to love this video. Well, it will also make your blood boil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YWex-YJOts

    It’s long, so quick synopsis: Husband and wife in car, wife is driving. Pulled over for speeding. Husband says “that’s bullsh!t” so the cop orders him out, arrests him for disorderly conduct and puts him in the back of the police car. Before letting him go eventually, cop accuses him of beating his wife. The cop’s supervisor comes and not only doesn’t fix this but he supports the first officer’s decisions. Ultimately, they let the guy out of the cop car and he says ‘Be safe, I hope you stay safe, but you are the reason cops get hurt.” Bam, they re-arrest him for felony threatening an officer. LOL

    Big payday coming their way.

  52. Yo! says:

    Hello chicagofinance. Thank you for asking me to comment on your repeated “volume down” assertions on NJ home sales activity. Thrilled to see you contributing to njrereport today on the topics of wine and brisket. I responded to your request for comment by posting data showing a 24% increase in NJ house sales and 47% increase in condo sales in the first half of 2021 compared to the same time frame last year. Could I ask that you share the info showing that volume is down?

  53. leftwing says:

    ” The risk of dying from Covid in the US is about 1 in 535. This ignores age, comorbidities and advances in the treatment of those infected.”

    Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the show?

  54. SmallGovConservative says:

    leftwing says:
    July 29, 2021 at 10:01 am
    “The liberals on the forum today are in downright ornery moods…”

    I’d be ornery too if I had to spend my days defending and apologizing for the Dem party. Imagine having to defend DeBlasio’s destruction of NYC or having to pretend to ignore the growing antisem1t1sm among Dems in congress. Imagine having to rationalize SlowJoe’s disastrous immigration policy which is allowing tens of thousands of covid-positive fake refugees into the country every month. Imagine having to excuse a foreign policy that has our State Dept putzes holed-up in a hotel room in Vienna begging the Iranian mullahs to talk to them. Imagine having to apologize for the third-world level Dem governance that brought us failed cities like Detroit and Baltimore.

    It’s easy to have a pleasant disposition when you’re on the right side of reality like me, but imagine spending your days as a Dem apologist. Oy!

  55. leftwing says:

    There is nothing inconsistent with people urging choice but taking the vaccine themselves.

    Obviously, I’m for choice yet was vaccinated in February.

    People should make their own personal assessments. My personal decision should not affect your personal decision.

  56. Ex says:

    I don’t like radical ideas. I like capitalism with a heart.
    I like US based mfg. I am not crazy about over regulation when it affects “me”,
    I love southern rock, firm feelin’ women and horsepower.

    So sue me. I like Joe.

    He’s my kind of guy. Trump? Not so much.
    I disagree with everything Trump said and did. Period. End of sentence.
    Then in his final days as he was gasping for air on the dry lake bed of serial failure, he overreached (as most true narcissist will) and he tried to bring down democracy.

    He should hang. Brothers have died selling cigarettes.

  57. SmallGovConservative says:

    Ex says:
    July 29, 2021 at 1:12 pm
    “Brothers have died selling cigarettes.”

    Haha, completely inappropriate term used by a lib jew from the Bronx. Reminds me of the ‘I speak jive’ scene from Airplane.

  58. No One says:

    Looks like Sunisa Lee kept her nerve and ended up on top. Good for her, she and her family went through a lot, yet persevered. And thanks to the latest changes, she can earn endorsement money and still compete at Auburn gymnastics. I hope she makes at least a million.

  59. JCer says:

    Lib, I’ve heard that tired argument before. Without S0viet support Cuba would have looked like something out of a mad max movie. The Cuban regime was brutal just like every other c0mmunist regime. Without internal economic development or a sponsor state misery is the status quo for Cuba. Without international investment Cuba was doomed, sanctions or not multinational corporations are hesitant to make an investment in a place run by an anti-capitalist dictat0r. Castro poisoned the well and the Cubans were forced to drink from it.

  60. JCer says:

    As bad as Batista was and the elements of organized crime they were bringing in vast sums of f0reign capital into the Cuban economy that stopped overnight. Think of the impact of the immediate exit of the tourist industry and the construction slowdown that resulted when they stopped building hotels and casin0s. The growing middle class ceased to exist, the rich were effectively expelled and nati0nalized as were the f0reign operators of all the infrastructure. Overnight Cuba devolved from a a functioning country albeit under the thumb of a criminal dictat0r with colonial american business interests, and significant inequality to a basket case nation. Without the S0viet lifeline many more Cubans would have starved. It’s hard to operate a tourist economy under a c0mmunist dictat0rship and unfortunately for Caribbean islands tourism need be part of the economic equation, agriculture is simply not going to support a middle class. Small island nations like Cuba are forced to trade, what can they produce to maximize trade value internationally?

    Castro’s rev0lution brought a lot of suffering. Many of the people engaged in and supportive of the rev0lution had no idea it was going to end in a c0mmunist dictat0rship. Once Castro gained power there was no going back, the Cuban regime improved literacy rates and increased the number of doctors but otherwise failed in every other respect. There is no ambiguity, the data points to absolute failure with or without US sanctions, furthermore does it excuse being a more brutal dictat0r than Batista?

  61. Yo! says:

    JCer, Batista died half a century ago. Who cares here today about Cuba and relation to New Jersey real estate. This is njrereport.com. New Jersey house prices up 25% through June on massive 24% sales volume increase. I find it weird njrereport posters going off topic when New Jersey home values rising fastest in perhaps hundreds of years.

  62. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And i called this for years.. was laughed off the stage.

    What am I telling you now? This is only the beginning, true mania stage will come in 2024-26. Then appreciation is on the back burner till the new cycle begins.

    Yo! says:
    July 29, 2021 at 2:00 pm
    JCer, Batista died half a century ago. Who cares here today about Cuba and relation to New Jersey real estate. This is njrereport.com. New Jersey house prices up 25% through June on massive 24% sales volume increase. I find it weird njrereport posters going off topic when New Jersey home values rising fastest in perhaps hundreds of years.

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  64. JCer says:

    On the vaccine, I said it very early vaccination is not the perfect tool for something like COVID. We know from 50 years of virology mutations pose a serious threat to efficacy and even natural immunity. From the veterinary side of things we know about endemic coronaviruses in other species, we also know vaccination while a good tool doesn’t prevent all infections and there are still casualties and significant economic loss in agriculture as a result.

    The reality is the latest variant evades previously acquired immunity to a much greater than the previous strains. Vaccination is a race you are almost always destined to lose when dealing with something like COVID. We need effective anti-virals to keep this at bay, once we can treat COVID with a script and no one is getting severely ill it will no longer be a problem. Even with the VAX some people are still getting severely ill and dying.

  65. Bystander says:

    Jcer,

    This Gary Johnson? Seriously. Ron Paul was lightyears ahead in terms of intelligence and policy.

    https://youtu.be/tMR2B5GsaNY?t=79

  66. Yo! says:

    http://tax1.co.monmouth.nj.us/cgi-bin/m4.cgi?district=0905&l02=090500269__0300001____CP040M

    New Jersey real estate news – Hoboken parking spots hitting 6 figures.

  67. Ex says:

    1:22 maybe so, maybe so. I do tend to go hyperbolic at times.
    Speaking of Which: https://youtu.be/f0_C3a13q7M

  68. chicagofinance says:

    I am not the one making volume down assertions, and I only commented on them once. I picked it off the board. I think it may have been grim., although I am not deflecting.

    I appreciate your data and informed opinion. I was unaware that the indexes that you quoted are calibrated to clean out the impact of mix, and reflect same property appreciation. In the financial markets, a similar data correction refers to “same store sales”, so a company’s sales growth line is not misinterpreted.

    I am not expert at real estate and the data you quote, so I cannot critique it. However, I would objectively comment that it is very difficult to produce clean data for a domain that does not have like observations (i.e. every home is unique for the most part and is not repeatedly bought and sold to create real time marks-to-market).

    Bottom line, the trend continues….. real estate is strong. No argument there.

    Yo! says:
    July 29, 2021 at 1:05 pm
    Hello chicagofinance. Thank you for asking me to comment on your repeated “volume down” assertions on NJ home sales activity. Thrilled to see you contributing to njrereport today on the topics of wine and brisket. I responded to your request for comment by posting data showing a 24% increase in NJ house sales and 47% increase in condo sales in the first half of 2021 compared to the same time frame last year. Could I ask that you share the info showing that volume is down?

  69. chicagofinance says:

    Did you like the Bloodhound Gang?

    Ex says:
    July 29, 2021 at 3:23 pm
    1:22 maybe so, maybe so. I do tend to go hyperbolic at times.

  70. Libturd says:

    “I’d be ornery too if I had to spend my days defending and apologizing for the Dem party. Imagine having to defend DeBlasio’s destruction of NYC or having to pretend to ignore the growing antisem1t1sm among Dems in congress. Imagine having to rationalize SlowJoe’s disastrous immigration policy which is allowing tens of thousands of covid-positive fake refugees into the country every month. Imagine having to excuse a foreign policy that has our State Dept putzes holed-up in a hotel room in Vienna begging the Iranian mullahs to talk to them. Imagine having to apologize for the third-world level Dem governance that brought us failed cities like Detroit and Baltimore.”

    Sometimes I wonder if there is a poster of Tucker Carlson above your bed?

  71. Libturd says:

    JCer,

    You are probably right about Cuba, and honestly, I’m no expert which is why I posed the question. If trade was allowed, I’d be curious to see how things would have worked out. The Cold War made one choose sides. He might have tried to be a blend of Social1sm and Democracy, but it was most likely impossible with Soviet support. I still think a blend of the two will be the eventual system that works a la Bernie’s Democratic Social1sm. Especially if AI rumors come to fruition. Something will have to give when the rules continue to be written to allow the richest to get richer at the expense of the middle. Appreciate you taking the time to answer,

  72. Libturd says:

    Yo,

    Aren’t we comparing the Covid lockdown Spring devoid of sales with the following half year not only not locked down, but also containing the pant-up demand release from the vaccine infused rally?

  73. Libturd says:

    Leftwing,

    HZO is a friggin’ battleship.

    MDC appears off to the races.

    I sold off my last half of CENT this morning. BLD I am still holding half of my initial position.

  74. Libturd says:

    RobinHood is the Fanduel of online brokerages. Make it rain!

  75. Bystander says:

    ” Tucker Carlson above your bed”

    More like a centerfold, with his pud his hand.

  76. The Great Pumpkin says:

    How China Played American Investors

    Shares tumbled this week as investors wondered what they really own when they buy Chinese stocks.

    Wall Street this week re­ceived a shock les­son in “cap­i­tal­ism with Chi­nese char­ac­ter­is­tics,” as Bei­jing’s pre­ferred mar­ket setup is of­ten de­scribed. The shares of many Chi­nese com­pa­nies listed in New York and other for­eign mar­kets plum­meted be­cause it turns out that model never in­volved much ac­tual cap­i­tal­ism.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-education-stocks-vie-variable-interest-entity-emerging-markets-11627575751?st=sjbketfyhyehwc9&reflink=article_copyURL_share

  77. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I don’t know who was the genius that opened the door to China, nixon? Nevertheless, getting played left and right.

  78. Libturd says:

    Why I would never consider investing in Chinese stocks.

  79. Fabius Maximus says:

    Maybe you can pray it away ?

    My unvaccinated friend flew herself and her unvaccinated kids to Disney for a trip. Outside of Thoughts and Prayers what else is there to say?

  80. joyce says:

    Find new friends…

    also, blame the businesses for not prohibiting them from flying/admittance.

  81. Bystander says:

    Thank you President Biden. As Dumpy said, the economy does perform better under Democrats.

    The U.S. economy grew by 6.5 percent during the second quarter of 2021, surpassing pre-pandemic GDP for the first time, the Commerce Department said on Thursday.

  82. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The Amazon Is Fast Approaching a Point of No Return

    Brazil’s rainforest is being stolen and cleared at an accelerating pace, and the Bolsonaro government is fanning the flames.

    https://apple.news/Ad6u_zDUgQmqh5V3058Co5g

  83. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Humans for the most part are a cancer. No other species is so destructive.

  84. 3b says:

    Bystander: True , but at what price?

  85. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Renters in a Presidio Heights apartment set the record for S.F.’s biggest-ever tenant buyout: $475,000

  86. Ex says:

    Humans are just trying to survive in a rapidly changing world.
    We’ve had a tough road to hoe by and large. But we keep going.
    As for being “a cancer”…I’d prefer to think of people as mutualistic organisms.
    But I can see how you’d think otherwise.

  87. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Looks like republicans setting up next fight.

    “Sen­ate Re­pub­li­cans, or at least some of them, are tak­ing a vic­tory lap for strik­ing a $1 tril­lion in­frastructure deal with the White House. Hur­rah! They can now re­treat to the side­lines and let Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders ne­go­ti­ate a par­ti­san multi-tril­lion dol­lar en­ti­tle­ment ex­pan­sion that they have made eas­ier to pass.

    At least by the nar­row terms of the in­frastructure deal, the GOP ne­go­tia­tors can take credit for what isn’t in the bill. There’s no tax in­crease, and the $40 bil­lion sub­sidy for the IRS in an ear­lier draft is out. There’s no new in-frastructure bank, which would be an un­end­ing source of po­lit­i­cal cor­rup­tion. The deal re­pur­poses some $205 bil­lion in Covid re­lief, which is bet­ter than new spend­ing. That’s most of the good pol­icy news.

    The U.S. could use more in­vest­ment in roads, bridges, cy­ber-se­cu­rity and ports, as well as for drought, wild­fire and flood mit­i­ga­tion. But the test of any dol­lar taxed and spent by gov­ern­ment should be whether its ben­e­fit will ex­ceed its re­turn if left in the pri­vate econ­omy. Only a frac­tion of the spend­ing in this deal meets that stan­dard.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-not-so-grand-infrastructure-deal-senate-democrats-republicans-11627597534?st=9nxgqd3motg72sk&reflink=article_copyURL_share

  88. joyce says:

    Illegal use of a controlled substance? Now that’s he’s fired, I wonder when he’ll be arrested.
    https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/fort-worth/article253082058.html

  89. grim says:

    Looking forward to Polio and Measles now, way to go America.

  90. grim says:

    Sometimes I wonder if there is a poster of Tucker Carlson above your bed?

    That’s Saint Tucker Carlson to you.

    How else do you expect Republicans to qualify for religious exemption of vaccine mandates?

  91. Bystander says:

    3b,

    Wish I knew. Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden..the runaway debt train keeps on chugging along. But, the r dummies here will take us how Dumpy created economic magic..it is same old sh$t economy covered in stock bubble riches and caviar dreams.

  92. 3b says:

    Bystander:Covered in a stock and real estate bubble that will
    End badly.

  93. Yo! says:

    “Libturd says:
    July 29, 2021 at 3:45 pm
    Yo,

    Aren’t we comparing the Covid lockdown Spring devoid of sales with the following half year not only not locked down, but also containing the pant-up demand release from the vaccine infused rally?”

    Compare January and February 2021 – before Covid vaccinations were widespread to January and February 2020 – when Covid hadn’t yet impacted the US economy. New Jersey home prices skyrocketed 23% on a 15% increase in volume.

    Of course Covid has impacted consumer behavior in many ways. I think the strong housing market has been driven more by other factors, specifically a shortage of for sale inventory combined with an increasing sense of urgency seen in prospective buyers.

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