Where is everyone?

From Politico:

U.S. population growth in 2021 slowest since nation’s founding

The U.S. population grew just 0.1 percent in 2021, the slowest rate since the nation was founded in the 18th century, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau.

The Census Bureau attributed the slow population growth to the Covid-19 pandemic, though the country has been experiencing low birth rates for several years. Low population growth in recent years has historically been attributed to simultaneously rising death rates of an aging U.S. population and falling declining rates in both births and migration.

Studies showed that net migration from Puerto Rico and foreign countries declined during the Covid-19 pandemic.

According to the Census Bureau, 2021 is the first year since 1937 that the population has grown by fewer than one million people and is also the year with the lowest number of people added to the population since 1900. The population growth rate also stalled to historically low levels in 1918 and 1919, due to the Spanish Flu pandemic and World War I. 

Idaho added the most to its population in 2021, with 2.9 percent growth. The District of Columbia and New York had the greatest population declines, losing 2.9 percent and 1.6 percent of their populations, respectively.

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145 Responses to Where is everyone?

  1. dentss dunnigan says:

    Foist

  2. grim says:

    Oh for f8cks sake, the microchip is back?

  3. dentss dunnigan says:

    Population growth declines …..lower property taxes

  4. grim says:

    Population growth declines, Ponzi schemes everywhere fail, property taxes skyrocket.

  5. grim says:

    Cool, but there is not a single electric truck manufacturer… I could see this working for short-haul port work, but we are a way off being able to use this for long haul. A semi goes 2000 miles on a tank of diesel.

    https://www.dailyrecord.com/story/news/environment/2021/12/20/nj-diesel-trucks-electric-trucks-combat-pollution-climate-change/8968042002/

  6. Half&Half says:

    Grim- It’s the cart before the horse. They also want us to convert to electric heating and when we don’t or can’t find a contractor to do the work fine us @20K no doubt through the IRS. NJ is slated to be mini-me CA.

  7. grim says:

    Wayne NJ covid cases, it’s a fun data series

    I’ll skip the dates to make this easier for me, but this starts November 1st, 2020. Clearly we were well into the major upswing prior to Thanksgiving, clearly a full week and a half.

    0 (November 1st)
    0
    0
    0
    1
    0
    7
    0
    0
    1 (November 11th, First omicron case detected – Botswana)
    3
    1
    1
    4
    14 (November 16th, Trend breakpoint)
    7
    18
    11
    13
    8
    15 (November 22nd, First confirmed US omicron case)
    18
    21
    19 (November 25th, Thanksgiving)
    10
    14
    13
    26
    10
    30 (December 1st)
    34
    22
    23
    19
    9
    37
    32
    26
    39
    35
    44 (December 14th)

  8. Fabius Maximus says:

    The 80,000-member coal miners union, United Mine Workers, just called on Joe Manchin to support the Build Back Better Act, telling him that BBB will protect labor and give coal miners a *better* shot at getting jobs in a renewable energy future.

    https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1473361625075879939

  9. Ex says:

    7:04 if you were CA you’d be converting to solar.
    Bought our place with a full solar array in place.
    Everything electric in the house runs off the roof.

  10. grim says:

    Saw that last night, thought it was an incredibly interesting twist.

  11. Ex says:

    Five big questions about Trump and the riot

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59703761

  12. grim says:

    Where’s NJ’s robust off-shore wind generation industry?

    How about we ensure we have enough clean generation in place before we just shift where we burn dinosaurs?

  13. BRT says:

    my high school’s data set looks like this

    0
    1
    0
    0
    1
    0
    1
    0
    0
    1
    2
    0
    0
    170

  14. BRT says:

    that 170 number is only confirmed positives. I’ll bet it’s likely 500

  15. Juice Box says:

    Coal is not on the way out by the time the next election happens for Senate in West Virginia in 2025. Does anyone really believe the small amount of votes 13,000 miners in West Virginia are going to effect his reelection chances in three years when he will be 77 years old? Any reduction in coal use for electricity in the USA will just mean we will export that mined coal. There are over 200 coal fired electrical plants under construction now in Asia. 95 in China, 28 in India with many more planned as they will not stop plans to lift BILLIONS of poor people up to the middle class just because a bunch of westerners tell them not to, and they will be happy to buy coal from the US, Australia or anyone else.

    This legislation should have be broken down into several smaller bills. The biggest problems in Washington right now is the size of these all encompassing complex bills that mix health care with going green energy, tax increases and heck the SALT cap. Too complicated and touches too many nerves…You can find a reason to support it like Green Energy and a reason not too like tax increases and handouts.

  16. Fast Eddie says:

    The District of Columbia and New York had the greatest population declines, losing 2.9 percent and 1.6 percent of their populations, respectively.

    Hard-working Americans are moving away from crime, filth, tax extortion to appease the pellet-munching riff raff to a more conservative, classic American way of life.

  17. Fast Eddie says:

    “Thanks to the prior administration and our scientific community, America is one of the first countries to get the vaccine,” Biden said Tuesday.

    Thank you, President Trump! It is the crown jewel of your administration among your many successes!

  18. Old realtor says:

    Eddie,
    Thought it was the useless, leaky, Fauci vaccine? Which narrative are you really down with?

  19. BRT says:

    What would make a bigger dent in carbon footprint? Converting to electric appliances or requiring better insulation in homes?

  20. Grim says:

    Banning fireplaces and wood stoves.

  21. Fast Eddie says:

    Thought it was the useless, leaky, Fauci vaccine?

    I got the 1st and 2nd shot and scheduled for the booster after Christmas. Post the link where I said the above.

  22. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Deflation. Yet, everyone around is crying about the FED producing inflation. They don’t get it.

    The economy is a ponzi scheme built on endless growth from population growth. Demographics matter. With falling demographics, you get less and less demand. We are f’ed. Capitalism doesn’t work with a falling population.

    grim says:
    December 22, 2021 at 6:44 am
    Population growth declines, Ponzi schemes everywhere fail, property taxes skyrocket.

  23. The Great Pumpkin says:

    But hey, 3b will be happy as house prices fall every year. Who in their right might will want to own something that drops in price every year? 3b fails to understand this, as most others do too.

  24. Juice Box says:

    Silly politicians thanking other politicians and taking credit for stuff they did not do. Sure we orders hundreds of millions of doses from BIONTECH on an unproven vaccine but so did the Chinese and the Europeans.

    Biden should have really thanked the German company BIONTECH as they had already developed the vaccine sequenced from the Wuhan strain is January of 2020, and added it to their proprietary MRNA tech well before the US and Pfizer were involved, and they had already begun non-clinical studies which was funded by loans previously from the EU.

    British were first to approve of it’s use too we were not even first there.

  25. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Nope, property taxes fall. The price of houses are not going to go up. Your pay will drop every f/ing year. Just remember, the Great Depression was a deflationary spiral. The fed has been trying its best to avoid that, yet everyone yelling at them. They don’t get it.

    grim says:
    December 22, 2021 at 6:44 am
    Population growth declines, Ponzi schemes everywhere fail, property taxes skyrocket.

  26. Old realtor says:

    Eddie,
    So you are saying that you don’t agree with GOAT? You appear to agree with him on everything else.

  27. Phoenix says:

    Rumor is the virus is spreading in hospitals, who then have to quarantine their workers who have already worked short staffed for years.

    It’s okay. Take a number, have a seat. Unless you are visibly bleeding to death we will get to you.

    Eventually.

  28. 3b says:

    Pumps: As soon as I read the article I knew first you would comment as you always do , and second you would reference me. Right on both points. Yes, between population decline and WFH, you have much to worry about.

  29. Phoenix says:

    What’s a right might?

  30. Juice Box says:

    Just remember Operation Warp Speed under Trump was originally a take on the name Project Lightspeed under the German company BIONTECH.

    The US based project to fund develop and test multiple vaccine candidates came about end of April in 2020. $10 billion from the CARES Act legislation started the whole thing, and that money was spent like candy everywhere for anyone with a vaccine idea.

    Another little tidbit, the new admin under Biden even before he was inaugurated during transition planning cancelled Operation Warp Speed (over Trump’s supposed vaccine failures), and disbanded the team that was formed transferred work and funding to the new White House COVID-19 Response Team.

    Who knows if any of those other vaccine candidates were ever viable or better than these new MRNA vaccines. There were dozens under development and it seems all the work was tossed aside.

  31. Phoenix says:

    Capitalism doesn’t work with a falling population.

    Sure it does. If you are the right person.

    Don’t worry, there are plenty with money that will scoop up your bankrupt corpses with a wheeled front loader as they seize what little you have.

  32. Phoenix says:

    Operation Warped Speed.

    H0w many hours did it take for America to get a single, UNARMED fighter jet in the air during 911?

    By the time America wipes it’s A z z it’s already gotten dressed, left the house, driven to work, and stained the office chair three hours earlier.

    It’s a reactive, not pro-active country.

  33. Phoenix says:

    What would make a bigger dent in carbon footprint? Converting to electric appliances or requiring better insulation in homes?

    Banning fireplaces and wood stoves.

    Or marrying someone who wasn’t named Diddums that requires a warehouse full of Chinese made shoes.

    Although it would be hard to say no to Goldie. Just sayin’

  34. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, some will always be alright, but the majority of the population will be in hell. I don’t think people really understand what deflation is. A falling population means everything keeps dropping in price.

    Do you want to be a manufacturer that produces goods that lose their value before you sell them? Aka you lose money making products. Do you want to be the customer that buys something that you can buy for less next week? It’s awful. It absolutely destroys the economy.

    Phoenix says:
    December 22, 2021 at 9:07 am
    Capitalism doesn’t work with a falling population.

    Sure it does. If you are the right person.

    Don’t worry, there are plenty with money that will scoop up your bankrupt corpses with a wheeled front loader as they seize what little you have.

  35. Phoenix says:

    Juice,
    America thanks no one. Bet you never heard of this. America refused to share data with Britain after their scientists helped with the Manhattan Project. So they went it alone with disastrous results- which could have been avoided with American cooperation.

    But most have never heard of this.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windscale_fire

  36. Juice Box says:

    Phoenix – Did we learn any lessons about covid transmission at all?

    I would think last place you want to be during a pandemic is in a hospital. Plenty of people were in the hospital for other treatments and caught covid there and later died or brought it home and killed grandma and grandpa. We cannot stop it from spreading once it’s in the hospital so why not KEEP IT OUT this time?

    Biden has tasked FEMA again to setup field hospitals for this but with the same mistake as last time, we won’t use them for quarantining and treating covid patients if at all, they will be only overflow. Perhaps this time we should treat Covid patients separately and keep the infected out of the regular hospitals.

    They should even set up separate centers for people that refused the vaccine….I won’t say we should give them less care but perhaps less priority for being 65 years or older and well being stupid if it comes down to doctors deciding to rationing ventilators again.

  37. SmallGovConservative says:

    Non-partisan, no-agenda question: given what we’re seeing in South Africa, why are we so concerned with omicron? Perhaps someone can verify, but my understanding is that in SA, despite the country being only ~25% vaxxed, the omicron wave is thought to have already (possibly) crested, and I think it’s generally agreed now that it’s a mild strain. So why are we doing anything more than riding out the wave and encouraging boosters?

    https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-africa-johannesburg-south-africa-f4b59ecde3029295f7b96f2d0ff44042

  38. Fast Eddie says:

    So you are saying that you don’t agree with GOAT? You appear to agree with him on everything else.

    We’re independent thinkers on the right… beholden to no one and able to draw our own conclusions. Falling in line for a collective cause just because we’re ordered to is not going to happen. See the treatment of Joe Manchin by his own tribe as he dares to make logical decisions.

  39. Phoenix says:

    Pumps
    The majority are cannon fodder for the few.

    Do you really think you are somebody? You think living in a wooden box in Wayne makes you special?

    When they are done with you out to the trash you go. Now go pull a lever for the Orange Orangutan or the brain dead white Q-Tip. It will make you feel like you accomplished something today.

  40. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What do I have to worry about? My mortgage is done in 8 years. I also will sell my rental before the deflation hits. My wife does not have to work for much longer. You just don’t get it.

    Deflation won’t start yet. We still have a growing population, but we are close. Prob want to sell when housing peaks between 2024-2026. 30’s might be a deflationary depression unless we change how the economy works.

    3b says:
    December 22, 2021 at 9:04 am
    Pumps: As soon as I read the article I knew first you would comment as you always do , and second you would reference me. Right on both points. Yes, between population decline and WFH, you have much to worry about.

  41. Phoenix says:

    We’re independent thinkers on the right… beholden to no one and able to draw our own conclusions. Falling in line for a collective cause just because we’re ordered to is not going to happen.

    Still in NJ paying Blue Taxes? Looks like you are still beholden to Murphy.

    BTW did you get your carry permit yet?

  42. 3b says:

    Pumps: If you say so.

  43. Phoenix says:

    Translation:

    I got mine. Sorry kids, I’m trading Arkk while you do your class assignment.
    You are finished. I will be out of here leaving all of my debt and problems to you while claiming to be a good member of society. Best of luck, suckers.

    “What do I have to worry about? My mortgage is done in 8 years. I also will sell my rental before the deflation hits. My wife does not have to work for much longer. You just don’t get it.”

  44. Phoenix says:

    I hope the Chinese ramp up production of the Covid tests, we need more of them.

    Bet there are thousands of them on ships waiting to get to port.

  45. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Hey, I worked hard to get where I am. Yes, I have been fortunate with my investments, but I put in the hard work and took the risk to get there. It could have ended badly, but it didn’t. Don’t hate me for trying to improve myself. I did what I had to do to be where I am today, it didn’t just fall in my lap. Hate me for it, but not my fault it worked out in my favor.

    Phoenix says:
    December 22, 2021 at 9:27 am
    Translation:

    I got mine. Sorry kids, I’m trading Arkk while you do your class assignment.
    You are finished. I will be out of here leaving all of my debt and problems to you while claiming to be a good member of society. Best of luck, suckers.

    “What do I have to worry about? My mortgage is done in 8 years. I also will sell my rental before the deflation hits. My wife does not have to work for much longer. You just don’t get it.”

  46. Phoenix says:

    Juice,
    Hospitals are where poor people go to get free healthcare, as they don’t ask for money up front for emergency care unlike smaller places. That’s capitalism. It’s the way it works.

    But now, hospitals are now owned by corporations, who want profits. Hedge funds, shareholders, all need their cut. Running 170 percent on 70 percent staff, as unlike other businesses, you aren’t replacing workers there with self scan checkout machines.

    And since these workers are subject to getting the same diseases as the patients they serve, this becomes a problem. Not to mention how many get attacked, or get injured trying to move 400 lb patients with a 110 lb body.

    It’s no desk job, and there is no one to help share the load thanks to cheapskate bean counters trying to run these places like a Chinese sweat shop.

    Have to say, it’s interesting at best, and frightening at worst.

    But I have to say, I love the youth of today, who are not putting up with this like the Boomers- and are wh or ing out themselves to the highest bidders and causing these bean counters headaches like they have never seen before.

    I hope Gen Z sticks it up farther than a shampoo bottle in the shower.

  47. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I seriously can’t believe no one sees anything wrong with the falling population growth. It blows my mind. Instead they worry about short term inflation that overshot due to supply chain distortions.

    Demographics matter people.

  48. Fast Eddie says:

    Still in NJ paying Blue Taxes? Looks like you are still beholden to Murphy.

    Indeed. Forced to pay, based on their price tag and timeline or threatened otherwise. Paying for essential services is one thing… supplying some fat f.ucks six digit pension is another.

  49. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    They never had a vaccine. The shots were marketed as vaccines for legal an PR purposes.

    As a tool they were apparently massively successful at preventing death among the most vulnerable. Overall there has been a lot of collateral damage and they are possibly counter productive in the long run. We’ll likely never know because of the way the data has been manipulated.

    They also politicized the shot in the most cynical way possible hoping to blame the spread on trump people. But wet know who has the lowest Vaccination rates by a long shot and all that it’s done to those communities is further disenfranchise them.

  50. Phoenix says:

    I seriously can’t believe no one sees anything wrong with the falling population growth.

    Hmm, let see about that.

    First of all, White women aren’t having as many children, as they prefer money and houses to creatures they actually have to take care of. Plus, there aren’t as many teachers with good pensions and health insurance to marry today, so they have less choices.
    They want their careers, pushed hard for this, but right now they are the ones that are leaving the workforce in droves compared to men. I guess when you find out what it’s really like you realize it’s better to have a 3B producing income and being able to be a SAHM.

    Then there is this:
    Dramatic increase in the proportion of births outside of marriage in the United States from 1990 to 2016

    How exactly did this happen? Are these women all running to Genetic banks? Or are there more and more men paying child support to women who just needed a donation of genetic goo and a check, and not really that interested in the rest of the donor?
    IDK, being a male, why would I want a child with a woman that doesn’t want me, and that I will be extorted for my money, and have to fight a system to see a child whose mother teaches them to hate you?

    IDK, having kids in America is not a good deal for men, that’s a given, unless you are fortunate to be in a marriage that works-and as the data shows, this is not moving in the positive direction.

    So I can see why there is less of a population growth. There are many more reasons than this, but most are financial. A child is expensive to raise.

  51. Juice Box says:

    Pumps a shrinking population is great for reducing C02 emissions. The million people in the USA that will soon be dead from covid? Well we just cut CO2 emissions by 15 million tons annually…

  52. Phoenix says:

    Indeed. Forced to pay, based on their price tag and timeline or threatened otherwise.

    No, you are not forced. You can leave anytime you want.

    Same thing healthcare workers were told when they were “forced” to get the vaccine.

    And some want “business” to decide who should be forced to take that.
    I don’t agree.

    But yes Eddie, it applies to you as well. Call a realtor, sell your house, and move to Texas. No one forcing you to stay in NJ, and no one forcing me to stay at my job.

  53. Phoenix says:

    Pumps,
    Females control the population. It’s that simple. Go talk to some and see if you can change their minds.

  54. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Phoenix,

    It’s not only america. All across the world. Europe is f’ed. Giving away houses in some towns in Italy. Begging people to move there. China who was driving growth is over. India is the last place with a growing population. Even Africa is falling off.

  55. Phoenix says:

    China will control it’s population. Don’t worry about that. If they want more kids, they will get them.

  56. The Great Pumpkin says:

    How does capitalism work with a falling population. It’s an economic system that works perfectly with a growing population. Dividing finite resources amongst a growing population. But how does supply/demand based fundamentals work with a falling population? It doesn’t. We will be in uncharted territories soon enough. An experiment with capitalism and a falling population that will not end well.

    This is my opinion. Anyone see anything wrong with my position?

    Juice Box says:
    December 22, 2021 at 9:56 am
    Pumps a shrinking population is great for reducing C02 emissions. The million people in the USA that will soon be dead from covid? Well we just cut CO2 emissions by 15 million tons annually…

  57. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Massive debt, that a smaller population will have to address. A population that is making less and less money. Going to have to hit reset on the entire economy and develop a new economic system to address the times.

  58. BRT says:

    Non-partisan, no-agenda question: given what we’re seeing in South Africa, why are we so concerned with omicron?

    There should be concern for a few reasons.

    1. We refuse to actually treat Covid patients here during the window of opportunity
    2. We fired our most immune healthcare workers who already recovered, reducing hospital capacity

    The reality is, this needs to run though the population at this point. There is no other end game. You can’t jab yourself forever hoping it works the next 20 years. Besides, they are now well behind the curve on jabs. There’s nothing else to do.

    Slowing the spread just delays the inevitable. They’ve been doing this while pretending to “take precautions” in various forms.

  59. Phoenix says:

    Pumps,

    I agree with you, it might not end well. Looks like you will have to wipe your own a zz when you get old, and maybe even have to start your own IV.

    Or let your renter do it for you, if you were nice to them you might feel comfortable giving them a sharp object to poke you with.

  60. Phoenix says:

    BRT,
    Let’s not forget the Anti Vaxxers, who were afraid of one chemical pumped into their bodies, the chemical with the micro chips, but they all want the IV infusion of antibodies which are now in short supply.

    At least Tractor supply has plenty of horse de-wormer in stock, along with 50 lb feed bags of antibiotics. It’s America. Try one, try all. Welcome to the show.

  61. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Not surprising people are having less kids today, away from your analysis, children are expensive from birth all the way up. Takes two incomes now to provide the house in nice suburb, schools etc No more corporate pensions , most corporate 401k plans don’t have a match, massive student loans the list goes on. I see people in my town just moved in with toddlers, 20 years ago I would assume Grandparents, nope Parents. Some of them look absolutely exhausted. People are getting older with younger kids and then head into their late 40s /50s with college ahead of them, and then they become targets for layoffs. In the meantime they are pumping money into the big mortgage payment, property taxes increase every year, day care costs and the list goes on. I can understand why the birth rate is declining.

  62. Trick says:

    Pumps, families have one child do not help the growth of the population.

  63. Phoenix says:

    “Slowing the spread just delays the inevitable.”

    Slowing the spread keeps hospitals from becoming overwhelmed so they can treat the drunk drivers, their victims, those with cancer, those who need knee replacements, those whose kid swallowed magnets, those who stick their hands in snow blowers, or stick things in places that are designed to be exits and not entrances.

    That’s what slowing the spread does. And remember, when someone comes to the hospital as a trauma we don’t have the luxury of waiting for a Covid test to treat. So everyone can be exposed, and processes have to be completed in order to keep it contained. You have no idea how labor/material intensive this process is. And it all has to happen in an instant. And in multiple departments.

  64. Phoenix says:

    3b,
    And this attitude, time cued.

    https://youtu.be/2hekDuCBxCc?t=101

  65. BRT says:

    Phoenix, this isn’t 2020. We can treat them early before they arrive at the hospital. Your health authorities refuse to do so. We shouldn’t shut down society because they are too dumb to give people an antiviral pill and zinc on day 1.

  66. Juice Box says:

    We export capitalism already Pumps and have for 250 years. Japan today is #1 overseas market for U.S. potatoes, they did not have that demand until we exported our potato ways to imperial Japan after our Military defeated them and we occupied the country.

    If there is an oversupply issue here we will just increase our exports of our capitalism to sub-Saharan Africa and Asia where the populations are growing, and use our Military to support it as we have, it’s been a global market since the days of sailing ships, and heck if anyone tries to steal it or the ships that carry it, like they did when Barbary States seizing American merchant ships in the early 1800s. It’s the very reason the US Marines were formed to protect our trade. Same with protecting oil ships today off the cost of Africa, anyone get near those ships today and they will soon be on the receiving end of hot lead.

  67. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Ain’t nothing sadder than the one child households with the helicopter parents. You see them now double triple masked. Prohibitively safe at all times. Those kids get all of the material things but their spirit is extinguished by the short leash.

    Wet know One whose parents choose the masters program she enrolled in. They footed the bill. I be said that I bet she bails on the career down the line since it probably wasn’t her idea in the first place. It’s on health care.

  68. Juice Box says:

    One can argue an aging population is way worse than a shrinking one….

    I will save that for another day..

  69. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Hey, if it was up to me, I would have another kid. Talk to my wife, Phoenix explained it.

    At the end of the day, I’m not going to starve off population decline in this country by having another kid or three more. It’s in trouble. Need immigration. It’s the only way.

    The world went through a period of massive population growth from 1800’s till now. But that era is over and never coming back. We need to start adjusting now by coming up with a plan to address this. Look at Japan with no population growth and bunch of old people. Their fed has had their hands full. Stock market peaked in 1989 and has not ever come back. Those people have been hurting. They are now finally opening up their country to immigration. Problem is, not enough immigrants to go around to save every country.

    Trick says:
    December 22, 2021 at 10:19 am
    Pumps, families have one child do not help the growth of the population.

  70. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And what do you think is happening. That’s exactly what is going to happen. Shrinking population where most people are old. Buckle up.

    Juice Box says:
    December 22, 2021 at 10:33 am
    One can argue an aging population is way worse than a shrinking one….

    I will save that for another day..

  71. BRT says:

    Ain’t nothing sadder than the one child households with the helicopter parents. You see them now double triple masked. Prohibitively safe at all times. Those kids get all of the material things but their spirit is extinguished by the short leash.

    Wet know One whose parents choose the masters program she enrolled in. They footed the bill. I be said that I bet she bails on the career down the line since it probably wasn’t her idea in the first place. It’s on health care

    Households with Millenial parents appear to be the worst offenders. They were the very first of the sheltered generation. Any parents that grew up in the 80s and were teens in the 90s remember clearly the freedom you had as kids. There are two kids in my neighborhood that are still locked in their homes to this day. I bet they don’t even remember was it was like to do a recreational activity.

  72. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bad parenting. Your job as a parent is to support and guide, not control. I hate people who live their lives through their kids. Forcing them to live the life they want, and not what the kid wants.

    BidenIsTheGOAT says:
    December 22, 2021 at 10:32 am
    Ain’t nothing sadder than the one child households with the helicopter parents. You see them now double triple masked. Prohibitively safe at all times. Those kids get all of the material things but their spirit is extinguished by the short leash.

    Wet know One whose parents choose the masters program she enrolled in. They footed the bill. I be said that I bet she bails on the career down the line since it probably wasn’t her idea in the first place. It’s on health care.

  73. Phoenix says:

    “Need immigration. It’s the only way.”

    How is your Mandarin?

    It’s all about you and your needs isn’t it? So now we need to import people who can wipe your a z z when you get old?

  74. SmallGovConservative says:

    Phoenix says:
    December 22, 2021 at 10:23 am
    “Slowing the spread keeps hospitals from becoming overwhelmed …”

    If omicron didn’t overwhelm hospitals in South Africa — again with only ~25% of the population vaxxed — why do we think it’s going to happen here? Ignoring for the moment BRT’s point re: early, pre-hospitalization treatment, have we fired so many un-vaxxed health care workers that there’s literally no longer enough hospital staff to handle any covid upticks?

  75. Phoenix says:

    BRT,
    Blame it all on a handful of terrorists who attacked the WTC. Since then, Americans have become paranoid freaks beyond belief, afraid of their own shadows, calling the police when they can’t remember where they left their coffee cup accusing someone of stealing it, or if someone takes a picture of their property.

    And this, when you listen to the whole thing carefully, it’s on point.

    https://youtu.be/k1BneeJTDcU

  76. Phoenix says:

    SGC,
    Let’s just say it’s not overwhelming hospitals as people aren’t that sick from it, but instead it is sickening healthcare workers in droves?

    So do you keep the sick workers there, or quarantine them? And if you quarantine them, how do you get your knee replaced?

    Sometimes the problem comes from the other side.

  77. Phoenix says:

    And SGC,

    Obviously the vaccine isn’t stopping Omicron, but possibly just lessening the symptoms.

    However, it’s highly infectious, and still able to finish off the weak.

    And if you haven’t noticed, there is a MASSIVE shortage of trained hospital staff, has been for years, but it has been run as lean as a Amazon warehouse.

    This time you pushed too far. And your kids, the 20-30 group-they have had enough of boomer sh ii t. They didn’t go to college and pay 130K to be treated the way Boomer thinks they can. Trust me, I work with them, and they will eff you up. They got your game, and will up you one.

    Loved working with every one of them. Finally a generation with some spark.

  78. joyce says:

    Is it Biden’s fault when the market goes sideways for months? Is it Biden’s “fault” when it goes up?

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 22, 2021 at 8:45 am

    I got the 1st and 2nd shot and scheduled for the booster after Christmas. Post the link where I said the above.

  79. Phoenix says:

    And Boomer,
    You best respect them. Or they will instantly send a letter to corporate with your name on it.
    Go ahead doc, take on a young woman, make the wrong comment. Abuse her in any way.

    Corporate will glue your lips together with Dermabond when you say the wrong thing.

  80. Phoenix says:

    Patriotism. Salute the flag. Pro-America, Radical Capitalism, bow behind the almighty American Dollar:

    A Harvard University chemistry professor was convicted in federal court on Tuesday of concealing his ties to China, securing a victory for the Justice Department’s controversial and faltering initiative to address accusations of “Chinese economic espionage” in the United States.

    A jury in U.S. District Court in Boston found the professor, Charles Lieber, guilty on two counts of lying to federal authorities, two counts of falsifying tax returns and two counts of failing to report foreign finances.

  81. Fast Eddie says:

    joyce,

    Are you referring to another post?

  82. The Great Pumpkin says:

    A $100,000 salary has long been the gold standard of success. But in today’s economy, it’s not enough to buy the American Dream.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/how-far-does-six-figure-salary-go-house-college-kids-2021-12

  83. 3b says:

    Phoenix: I like the millennials, I find them hard working and dedicated. Definitely not full of themselves like Boomers and Gen X.

  84. joyce says:

    Is 48 hours too long for you to remember?

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 20, 2021 at 12:22 pm
    In lighter, happier news… the markets have been sideways and flat for eight months now, gold is down, silver is down, savings accounts are still at 0% interest and your money is disintegrating before your very eyes! Thanks, Brandon!
    https://njrereport.com/index.php/2021/12/20/grim-beginnings/#comment-1235773

  85. Fast Eddie says:

    Is it too much for you to reference the post?

  86. Libturd says:

    Wow, the Trumpies are off their rockers today. Spouting bullsh1t like Old Faithful spouts water.

    “As a tool they were apparently massively successful at preventing death among the most vulnerable. Overall there has been a lot of collateral damage and they are possibly counter productive in the long run. We’ll likely never know because of the way the data has been manipulated.

    They also politicized the shot in the most cynical way possible hoping to blame the spread on trump people. But wet know who has the lowest Vaccination rates by a long shot and all that it’s done to those communities is further disenfranchise them.”

    Just wow! Where do you hide your insurrection horns? I know a heck of a lot of unvaccinated people who died who were not old nor had any underlying issues. Your ignorance is on full display here.

    For a non-politicized take on Omicron and why you can’t jump to conclusions unless they fit the political narrative (like with bleach, dewormer, zinc and elderberry):

    It’s clear that Gauteng—Omicron’s epicenter—peaked. It looks like cases in South Africa, as a whole, also peaked.

    Why do we have waves? See my previous post here. But this peak is far more interesting than some may think, as it’s a sign that we are missing a fundamental piece of the Omicron puzzle. With R(t)=3, we would expect an attack rate of 90%, so we would expect Gauteng and South Africa to peak much higher. Scientists have offered several hypotheses:

    Testing. South Africa’s test positivity continues to hoover around 30%, which is very odd because usually this decreases before cases decrease. So this could mean that people aren’t bothering to get tested or South Africa has reached testing capacity.

    Asymptomatic spread. Somewhat relatedly, the peak could mean there are far more asymptomatic cases that just aren’t detected. So there are far more “true” cases than the epi curves portray. I think this is the most likely scenario.

    Secondary attack rate. Omicron could have a shorter generation time, so positive cases infect far less people than Delta. In other words, the secondary attack rate is much smaller. Data from the UK, though, shows household transmission higher with Omicron than Delta, so I’m not convinced this is a driving factor.

    Susceptibility. Omicron is only spreading among certain levels of immunity and/or susceptibility. A running hypothesis is that Omicron and Delta will co-exist with different paths: Omicron will spread through immune evasion and come and go, while Delta could persist onward.

    Behaviors. Behaviors of people drastically changed due to increasing cases. While, as far as I can tell, national policies on the ground haven’t drastically changed in South Africa, people did go on summer holiday. As South African scientists warned, we need to compare the South African Omicron wave to Beta (not Delta) to account for seasonality and human behavior.

    Network effects. This plays some sort of role, too (and I think the most interesting). As people see their regular contacts and these networks reassert themselves, Omicron runs out of places to go.

    Nonetheless, South Africa showed us that Omicron spread incredibly quickly, and we will continue to see this rate of spread across the globe.

    South Africa’s hospitalizations remain about 50% of what they were for the Delta wave. Deaths continue to increase, but also much, much lower than before. Is this because immunity is working or because Omicron is less severe? We don’t know yet. But an important preprint was released yesterday describing Omicron hospitalizations in South Africa. There was a lot in this paper, but, to me, the following was the biggest finding: Once someone got to the hospital, the odds of disease becoming severe was the same as Delta. So if the immune system was breached, Omicron did the same damage as Delta. This is consistent with another robust analysis of hospitalizations from the UK that found Omicron is not less severe than Delta.

    On the other hand, lab data is showing that there are certainly physiological differences between Omicron and Delta disease processes (go here for more great details). It will be weeks or months until data crystallizes and we have a clear picture of Omicron severity. What all this means for hospitalizations and deaths in places like the United States remains unknown.

  87. Trick says:

    15 Jet players including the HC tested positive, not that it matters come Sunday

  88. joyce says:

    Is it Biden’s fault when the market goes sideways for months? Is it Biden’s “fault” when it goes up?

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 22, 2021 at 11:55 am
    Is it too much for you to reference the post?

  89. dentss dunnigan says:

    She sure has a pair of lungs ….

  90. Libturd says:

    Someone on my older son’s hockey team is positive. Think it was the kid who puked all over the bench on Monday? Should make for an interesting game tonight and tomorrow.

    I was wondering why they suddenly were adding my son to the powerplay!

  91. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Lmao

    “Burrow says “fortunately, there’s not a lot to do in Cincinnati,” which has helped the Bengals from going out and contracting COVID-19.”

  92. Hold my beer says:

    Smallgove

    The US had a higher obesity rate than South Africa 36% to 30%. The median US age is also 11 years older than South Africa 38 years to 27 years. Covid likes obese old diabetics.

  93. Fast Eddie says:

    Is it Biden’s fault when the market goes sideways for months? Is it Biden’s “fault” when it goes up?

    It was rising for the first few months of his reign because we were told that he has a plan, he was going to kill covid while sending checks to the muppets to sit home and that he won’t send any mean tweets to hurt the muppets feelings; thus, uniting the country. Lol!! Well, he doesn’t have a plan, the weekly checks aren’t forever, the muppets are frustrated and the muppet squad is throwing a tantrum because they thought 2 trillion was a slam dunk. So yeah, it’s shitty pants’ fault.

  94. 3b says:

    Biden extends student loan payment freeze to May.

  95. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    People discuss covid positive like a death sentence. Fear induced psychosis.

    Then looked in Germany, and couldn’t find one kid between the age of 5 and 18 who died of COVID. Not one. But here fauci and Biden are telling everyone to keep getting pumped full of shots including kids.

    They wouldn’t dare study it here either. We now have scientific group think.

    Now it’s keep getting tested endlessly to keep the cases count up. They keep moving the goal posts to keep people in this panic grip it’s just sick.

  96. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    The sports leagues have caught on. They broke from the fauci bullshlt and are creating their own protocols. As s as result of people calling bullshlt now fauci says the protocols should be amended. This guy is completely full of shlt and saying whatever he needs to to keep the political cover.

  97. Fast Eddie says:

    GOAT,

    Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!!

  98. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Dude, my brother is as healthy as they come. He is getting his ass kicked with covid. Tested positive. Save the bs, guys. Seriously.

    Wake up. It’s a bad virus. Stop acting like it’s nothing.

  99. Juice Box says:

    Beer -re: South Africa

    Also US population is 16% is 65 +

    South Africa it’s 5% is 65 +

    Simply less old folks to clog up the hospitals and morgues vaccinated or not.

  100. crushednjmillenial says:

    Stories I missed lately:

    -State Sen. Cunningham (D-Jersey City) has a DWI trial coming up in March
    -AJ’s in Secaucus got raided (Secaucus seems like a town that is a bit too nice for a strip club to have literal drug selling and p2p going on in there)

  101. Juice Box says:

    Pumps sorry to hear your brother is not feeling well, was he triple vaccinated and how long ago?

  102. crushednjmillenial says:

    Population falling . . .

    The US population will only drop if the politicians choose for that to happen.

    Current annual numbers are something like:

    Births: 4m
    Deaths: 2.5m
    Immigration: 1-1.5m

    Total annual US population growth: 2-3m/year

    If the politicians want, then can change immigration policy slightly and more immigrants will instantly come to the US. There are 8B people in the world – probably 4 or 5B would immediately pack their bag if the US said they could move here.

  103. BRT says:

    Dude, my brother is as healthy as they come. He is getting his ass kicked with covid. Tested positive. Save the bs, guys. Seriously.

    Wake up. It’s a bad virus. Stop acting like it’s nothing.

    Tell him to go get monoclonals and take zinc, vitamin d, and possibly an antiviraI. The prescription of stay home and get sicker until you get better is the problem. Early treatment, you get better almost immediately.

  104. Phoenix says:

    Not N.J., but interesting none the less.

    https://www.50-a.org/most

  105. BRT says:

    TeII him t0 g0 get m0n0cI0naIs and take quercitin, zinc, vitamin d, and p0ssibIy an antiviraI. The prescripti0n 0f stay h0me and get sicker untiI y0u get better is the pr0bIem. EarIy treatment, y0u get better aIm0st immediateIy.

  106. BRT says:

    Then looked in Germany, and couldn’t find one kid between the age of 5 and 18 who died of COVID. Not one. But here fauci and Biden are telling everyone to keep getting pumped full of shots including kids.

    NJ has had 2 child covid deaths. That number should drop to zero given our available therapeutics. I’ve known personally of over 100 kids that have tested positive now. None of them had more than mild symptoms.

  107. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Thanks, Juice. He will be okay, he was boosted with pfizer on the 14th. He is backed up big time with his business, but had to come home at 12 yesterday because how bad his body was hurting. Chest burning, super congested, and weak. No fever, but had to lay in bed. Still in bed today. He said it’s no joke. He’s 6’2 and 190lbs. Great shape. So lucky he was boosted, might be worse.

  108. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Thanks, BRT. I’ll let him know.

  109. BRT says:

    Given the nature of this new variant, I can pretty much guarantee that this virus is in the air at every public enclosed place you visit for the next few weeks.

  110. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Crushed,

    The problem with population is that there are not enough immigrants to go around for all countries. The entire world population is about to peak and decline. We will see what happens, it’s a lab experiment on whether capitalism can work with negative population growth. I personally think our economic system will have to evolve to fit the times. The robots are coming and the population is going to start declining. See what happens.

  111. 3b says:

    Pumps: Speedy recovery to your brother.

  112. The Great Pumpkin says:

    In what would have been widely dismissed as absurd even a year ago, a mainstream consensus has suddenly swept the world that the core of the global economic system has gone terribly awry, requiring a basic shakeup of capitalism.

    The big picture: But the problem may be far more fundamental than an excess of human ruthlessness, as many believe. Instead, experts say, capitalism is under another, more intractable assault — by inexorable long-term population trends that may kill the ability of economies to grow.

    As we have reported, a reckoning has emerged for capitalism as practiced — people across the U.S., Europe and elsewhere say something is fundamentally wrong with their living standards and the size of companies, and CEOs and politicians suddenly believe that they must act.
    In an announcement yesterday, 181 of the top U.S. CEOs said they are changing their business objective — rather than solely seeking to satisfy shareholders, they will consider the desires of other constituencies such as communities and employees.
    And in a report, the WSJ writes that U.S. state attorneys general plan to proceed with a probe of big tech companies for alleged anti-competitive behavior.
    But experts suggest that such do-gooderism and investigations will be insufficient to turn the tide against an underlying, almost-unnoticed threat to the economic system that has fueled the entire industrial age.

    The new threat: Most of us know that global wealth surged starting in the 19th century. What is less publicized is that the explosion was accompanied by similar breakout in population, and economists connect the two — when population grows, GDP has tended to rise with it. (see chart)

    https://www.axios.com/the-new-threat-to-capitalism-73ff54bd-2092-4de5-bbd5-80ccdfb39542.html

  113. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Thanks, 3b.

  114. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    BRT I would have questions admit those two. Where they vaccinated by the common sense standard… i e. Got the shot?

    Was Murphy involved at any level? Let’s not forget that he said the shots were 99% effective and not on ever questioned that. And that’s after breakthroughs became common place. The state data is very suspect.

  115. Grim says:

    Wow, 9700 new cases in NJ.

    This is an incredible number…

    Highest single day ever.

    Highest week ever.

  116. Grim says:

    Heading into Christmas.

    This is the wave to end all waves.

  117. Grim says:

    Murphy is going to Costa Rica for a week though..

  118. Juice Box says:

    Heading into Christmas..

    Yup heading to airport soon too….need to get out of here before you all get me sick.

  119. Libturd says:

    Say it ain’t so!

    I hope his plane crashes.

    Just picked up the older kid at school. I wore a mask and pulsoximeter just to be funny. We tested him before he came in the house. Still negative. The kid on his team was his defensive partner. They sit together on the bench and in the locker room. Covid was picked up from a party held on Saturday. I told my son he couldn’t go to it. He understood. He’s grateful now. Once again, he’s the only kid on the team who wears a mask when you aren’t required to. The rest will only wear one walking in and out of the rinks. Who knows, maybe masks help. Unless you are a Trumpy Republican. Then they should be burned.

  120. grim says:

    Got a really close parking spot to pick up my daughter at school today.

    Oh, and a 4th grade class got booted today.

    1 more day to go and we made it!

  121. Brt says:

    Goat, I believe they happened prior to the shot being available. They also likely had some major health issues. I lost the study but in terms of healthy children where they couldn’t find a comorbidity, they estimated 20 healthy children passed away nationwide.

  122. BRT says:

    I have 1 more test to take before I officially quit covid testing. Today was the 1st day I haven’t had multiple close contacts in about 12 days.

  123. Fast Eddie says:

    It sold for 605K a few months ago so why the f.uck are they asking 720k? No, f.uck you, fat Karen, you don’t get to flip houses.

    https://www.trulia.com/p/nj/hillsdale/279-magnolia-ave-hillsdale-nj-07642–2006681283

  124. Phoenix says:

    Ex,
    None came to Jersey.

    Bwahahaha.

  125. Ex says:

    Texas looks to be the biiig winner.

  126. Phoenix says:

    Pumps,
    Hope your bro gets better.

  127. Phoenix says:

    Williams-Sonoma fires scores of seasonal remote workers in a conference call more than a month earlier than they expected.

    Eff Pottery Barn and anything “Sage.”

    Bonus points to anyone who knows the Pottery Barn sage series reference.

  128. The Great Pumpkin says:

    They don’t go there for the quality of life. They go to Texas because they can do whatever they want. That Texas govt is owned by business. They do whatever they want in that state. They tell Texas to jump, and Texas asks how high? It also doesn’t hurt that half the population in Texas is Mexican. Endless supply of cheap labor that are good with their hands and doing the jobs others won’t. Going to end up with a lot of problems down the line, but by then, these businesses will be on to the next victim.

    Ex says:
    December 22, 2021 at 5:28 pm
    Texas looks to be the biiig winner.

  129. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Thanks, Phoenix.

  130. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I believe this is the beginning of the end. This has to be peak covid. Next year I doubt it will be as bad. Plus they are going to keep coming out with new technology to deal with it. Throw in immunity and this is the beginning of the end.

    Hope I’m correct.

  131. Ex says:

    Cheap = Free
    Freedom ain’t always cheap, it certainly ain’t free,
    But the governments of the hugely dysfunctional
    Cities in this great nation are lacking in enough
    Of the necessary leadership to curb massive problems.
    So yeah, I can see why people leave place like LA, SF, CHI, NY….

  132. Bystander says:

    That condo looks like a piece of brown shit literally, Ed. Wtf? How can anyone think this is good?

  133. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s not slowing down, and everyone and their mother that called market top this past summer are about to learn that they made a costly mistake.

    “Homes Sold in November at Fastest Pace in 10 Months
    Sales on track for best year since 2006, driven by low interest rates and a strong job market”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/homes-sold-in-november-at-fastest-pace-in-10-months-11640185894

  134. Hold my beer says:

    Pumps

    Hope your brother recovers quickly

  135. Ex says:

    The County of Los Angeles Public Health department reported more than double the number of coronavirus cases on Wednesday as reported Tuesday.

    The health department reported 6,509 new cases of COVID-19 on Wednesday, up from 3,052 on Tuesday.
    The County of Los Angeles Public Health department reported more than double the number of coronavirus cases on Wednesday as reported Tuesday.

    The health department reported 6,509 new cases of COVID-19 on Wednesday, up from 3,052 on Tuesday.
    LOS ANGELES — The County of Los Angeles Public Health department reported more than double the number of coronavirus cases on Wednesday as reported Tuesday.

  136. Ralphusele says:

    Jamshedpur is a large city set between the Subarnarekha and Kharkai rivers in the east Indian state of Jharkhand. It’s known for huge, tree-lined Jubilee Park, where the Tata Steel Zoological Park has resident species including tigers and leopards. To the east, the hilltop Bhuvaneshwari Temple has an elaborate 5-story entrance tower. North of the city, elephants roam through the forests at Dalma Wildlife Sanctuary.

    [url=https://www.webcontactus.com/outlook-365-contacts-disappeared/] Jamshedpur [/url]

    Jamshedpur is a large city set between the Subarnarekha and Kharkai rivers in the east Indian state of Jharkhand. It’s known for huge, tree-lined Jubilee Park, where the Tata Steel Zoological Park has resident species including tigers and leopards. To the east, the hilltop Bhuvaneshwari Temple has an elaborate 5-story entrance tower. North of the city, elephants roam through the forests at Dalma Wildlife Sanctuary.

  137. Juice Box says:

    My wife’s Aunt in Atlanta just got it, she was at the hospital to visit her husband who is in for cancer treatment. Triple vaxxed with Moderna she says it’s the worst cold with migraines all the time. Her doctor has not recommended Regeneron, just stay home.

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