Predictions 2022!

Posted on December 31, 2021 by grim

Break out your crystal ball and let’s hear ’em!

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189 Responses to Predictions 2022!

  1. dentss dunnigan says:
    December 31, 2021 at 8:39 am

    first

  2. grim says:
    December 31, 2021 at 8:43 am

    Fun one from over at Ritholtz, posting because we need some optimism heading into 2022.

    Underestimate the U.S. Economy at Your Own Risk

  3. Fast Eddie says:
    December 31, 2021 at 9:23 am

    For 2022, I predict that O’Biden will forced to resign and Carmella will pick Fauci as her VP; gender identity will expand to include adverbs and adjectives and a new strain of the covid virus will be unleashed called the ‘TDS’ variation that rapidly spreads among liberals because of their unbridled penchant for mouth to a.ss contact.

  4. grim says:
    December 31, 2021 at 9:58 am

    From DNYUZ:

    In 2021, New York’s Housing Market Made a Stunning Comeback

    A year ago, while most of the country was seeing record home sales and prices, driven by low mortgage rates and roaming office workers, New York was on the outside looking in: Sales and rentals plummeted, and doomsayers predicted the city’s demise.

    Not anymore.

    In a remarkably sharp turnaround, the sales and rental markets are approaching or, in some cases, exceeding prepandemic prices. More apartments were sold in Manhattan in the third quarter of 2021 than at any other time in the last 32 years. Sales in Brooklyn and Queens pushed further into record territory. And some renters, who took advantage of deep discounts just a year ago, are now facing the sticker shock of 30 or 40 percent rent hikes.

    New York’s housing market is back — and with it, the hope of a more affordable city is fading. The rebound, largely fueled by the luxury market, carries risks for thousands of renters facing possible eviction, when a statewide moratorium is set to end in mid-January.

    The city’s real estate market is poised for further gains in 2022, analysts and agents said, as momentum shifts away from the red-hot suburbs and international travel returns. But as the highly contagious Omicron variant has shown, the path to recovery may be winding.

  5. Old realtor says:
    December 31, 2021 at 10:04 am

    My prediction, you will get covid.

  6. grim says:
    December 31, 2021 at 10:06 am

    The wave to end all waves.

  7. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 10:17 am

    The cost of health insurance is going to rise at the fastest pace this year.

  8. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 10:28 am

    ” The medical center also is tapping its partnerships with colleges that train nurses, technicians and other health care workers to help meet staffing needs, under supervision and within regulatory requirements, she said.”

    This quote was in a paper. I wonder what this means…..

  9. Libturd says:
    December 31, 2021 at 10:36 am

    Ritholtz is probably right. Somehow. He echoes ChiFi’s optimism. It’s as unexplainable as why the world continues to invest their hard-earned dollars in what feels like to most, except the most well off Americans, a sinking ship.

    I’m relatively well travelled as are many of the others here. I look at more soc1alized (advanced) countries, such as those in Western Europe with envy. Twice the vacation, significantly cheaper healthcare, better education and significantly more efficient public transit. On average, they tend to do a lot better in the quality of life measures, at the expense of having less of a chance of becoming part of the 1%. Succinctly, they have a significantly larger middle class than what we have. I’m fairly certain this is where we will end up going, regardless of party or how poorly you define soc1alism.

    So why does the world invest in us? Is it our entrepreneurial spirit that is spurned by our love of freedom? Is it our willingness to stick our nose into every civil war occurring anywhere on our planet to save the world (or more likely, to serve our personal interests)? Remember, we didn’t enter WWII until the Japanese attacked us.
    My opinion is that it’s mostly our continued supersized spending on our military complex that keeps our debt funded, combined with a little bit of our former good will towards world peace. The bigger question is, how long will this continue? Can we keep devaluing our currency without it negatively impacting world investment.

    A couple of questions that require answering to help me formulate my opinion on the economy next year include:
    If the economy somehow improved from work from home, what impact will the new hybrid arrangement have on commercial real estate, empty public transit, etc? These costs have to be absorbed.
    At some point, the international sector will make up some empty ground. The only question is when. In most cases, their handling of Covid was much more inexpensive than ours.
    This bull market is becoming more and more of a historical outlier by the minute. Just as ARKK will return to the mean, I would expect our overperfoming market will too. As usual, the WHEN is impossible to pinpoint.
    The FED has to raise interest rates. It’s been so long, how the heck is it going to impact mortgage rates, corporate borrowing, etc.?

    Even with all of the questions, there is one thing I am relatively certain of. It’s that the next correction is going to be extremely painful to states with large pension liabilities. The ONLY thing keeping these gigantic piles of debt from stinking up the economy has been the recent bull market (outlier). The next correction, is going to require federal bailouts of entire states. Not just a couple of mid-sized cities this time.

    Will sh1t hit the fan this year? I’m guessing yes, but it’s really mostly a guess based on the headwinds I’m seeing. How certain am I? 0%. Which is why I am positioned 50/50. I’ll be selling my multi in the coming 18 months. So my focus will be mainly on curb appeal. I also plan to do it privately without a broker if I can. Not because I’m cheap, but because no one deserves nearly $50,000 for basically filling out a Mad Lib. Ideally, I find an investor who will buy directly from me and I’ll use that 50K to lower the price to snag the sale.

    If anyone here is interested, let me know. I’m an open book. You can run the numbers and see if they work for you. I’ve done it a bunch of times with the local vultures and they always want the place for 600K. At 725K I’d be willing to deal. It Zillow’s closer to 800K. It would come with great long-term tenants who have always paid on time. I’ve got nothing to hide.

  10. Juice Box says:
    December 31, 2021 at 10:53 am

    My prediction is lots of pull forward inheritance, with another 400,000 Covid deaths in 2022.

    The stock market will continue to rise but not anywhere near the 27% this year. Inflation will continue as food manufacturers have already announced price increases that will go into effect in January. Fed pulls back bond buying in January and raises rates by May, but it’s too late as the inflation is no longer transitory.

    The FDA approves the new multivalent Covid vaccine for Alpha, Beta and Delta but it does not contain the Omicron variant which by the time the approval happens Omicron is the only strain circulating, with the new PI variant making it’s entrance sometime around June.

  11. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 11:02 am

    The Poles got this one right “stary pryk”

    Translate what this means in Polish.

  12. Juice Box says:
    December 31, 2021 at 11:06 am

    One more thing. I saw 3 Oculus QUEST devices returned this week, the metaverse and FB stock tanks.

  13. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 11:27 am

    Lib,
    I love that you are a straight shooter. It’s a good quality.

  14. Juice Box says:
    December 31, 2021 at 11:37 am

    Another prediction.

    Crypto crybabies continue to call “no fair” when Governments and the Finance industry won’t include them in their offerings from regulated centralized finance. For example trading your stock directly to crypto, and then selling it quickly for cash. By not including easy entry and exit points for retail and especially institutional customers they claim regulated centralized finance is holding back INNOVATION!

    Also the newer know your customer (KYC) authentication is going to catch allot of tax cheats. There will tons of crypto millionaires who have and continue to flaunt paying their taxes and the new 1099-K forms which are now required from the US IRS may catch some of them, perhaps even a few whales.

  15. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 11:37 am

    So why does the world invest in us?

    Cause it’s a great place to legally run a morally bankrupt empire with safety. Despots from all over the world go to Montana and South Dakota to legally shield assets from creditors, it’s used for divorce as well.

    Hypocritical since America complained about the Swiss, then basically have bad mouthed them into being more transparent and attacking them legally, while simultaneously erecting their own safe haven for criminals.

    It’s a reason when I watch Yellowstone I find it interesting. Seems like the only justice they get out there is when they bring out the guns and bury the bodies. What makes that show good is that at least they know how to get real justice.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/07/12/626693116/riveting-documentary-sheds-light-on-dark-money-in-montana-politics

  16. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 11:38 am

    Crypto crybabies.

    Government hates competition.

  17. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 11:40 am

    “Also the newer know your customer (KYC) authentication is going to catch allot of tax cheats.”

    Of course, they won’t catch too many politicians cheating using insider trading, or bribes, or payoffs. This will be the standard in 2022

  18. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 11:43 am

    3 Oculus QUEST devices returned this week.

    These will be better when they use the technology of firing the laser directly onto the retina.

    It has been done.

    https://futurism.com/smart-glasses-project-images-directly-retina-using-mini-laser

  19. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 11:47 am

    “The next correction, is going to require federal bailouts of entire states.”

    I will correct this statement.

    The next correction, will be piling more of the Greatest/Boomer generation’s debt onto Gen Z’s back.

    https://youtu.be/2hekDuCBxCc?t=130

  20. grim says:
    December 31, 2021 at 11:51 am

    I did some stuff with Thalmic Labs up in Canada, they rebranded as North and were acquired by Google.

    They had a really slick pair of glasses (Focals) that used laser projection as a kind of smartphone heads up display/augmented reality. Tried a pair, never got around to picking them up before they were acquired by google and ultimately shut down. I think they ended up just refunding everyone that bought them.

    Far beyond what Google Glass was ever able to do, and they weren’t nearly as nerdy. Apple was stupid not to buy them first. This is the closest anyones ever gotten to augmented reality vision in a form factor that could have been widely accepted.

  21. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 11:54 am

    “Fair means one side got exactly what they wanted in a way that the other side can’t complain about.

    There is no such thing as fair.”

    John Dutton.

  22. grim says:
    December 31, 2021 at 12:10 pm

    Another 28,500 today.

    NJ has had more cases in the last 2 days than all of May, June, and July 2020 combined.

    Might argue the entirety of the first covid summer (May – September 2019) as well.

  23. Sluggo says:
    December 31, 2021 at 12:38 pm

    My prediction is that NJ will continue to be an over rated shithole. Had to cut short a work trip to DC due to a sick household, drove back last night. And yes, we have all gotten the shot, me and spouse have been boostered. Can’t find a test, can’t get an appointment, local urgent cares are either closed to staffing shortages or have hours long waits for walk-ins. In DC, there were testing sites every few blocks and multiple locations in every neighborhood where you can get a test kit. Tell me again what I am paying these ridiculous taxes for? One and a half more years until the youngest is out of school then I am packing up the family and house and getting-tfo.

  24. LurksMcGee says:
    December 31, 2021 at 12:39 pm

    Pumps will double down on his defensive of ARKK

    Just kidding. Happy new year everyone and stay safe.

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  26. No One says:
    December 31, 2021 at 12:53 pm

    I’m at the Gator bowl watching Wake Forest lead Rutgers. Go Deacs.

  27. Ex says:
    December 31, 2021 at 1:21 pm

    GOP wins midterms – gridlock ensues.

  28. Ex says:
    December 31, 2021 at 1:23 pm

    Housing continues to rise. The bifurcation of the American economy continues.
    Red VS Blue rift continues unabated. Eddie moves to NC and is immediately labeled a Yankee and no one will talk to him.

  29. 3b says:
    December 31, 2021 at 1:44 pm

    Took my PCR test on Wednesday, results 24 to 48 hours. Have not heard anything yet. I assume with New Years Eve, I might not hear until Monday.

  30. The Great Pumpkin says:
    December 31, 2021 at 1:57 pm

    Housing market starts to pick up this summer when people finally realize that housing prices are not dropping anytime soon…and each year they wait, they will pay more. Housing should go into mania stage in 2024 and pop in 2026.

    Get those cheapies of high growth stocks that will be leaders of the economy of tomorrow. Aka just buy arkg over the next couple of years and then collect sometime in the future when their cycle peaks.

    Bottom line, economy is strong. Enjoy and take advantage of these roaring 20’s 2.0.

    This holiday break has been wasted by Covid. Let’s hope for the end of this pandemic so the economy can really get rolling.

    Happy New Year everyone! Have a shot and enjoy your time with your family tonight. Stay healthy!

  31. Hold my beer says:
    December 31, 2021 at 2:42 pm

    Anybody have AT&T fiber 1000? It reached my neighborhood and I’m thinking of switching to it.

  32. Juice Box says:
    December 31, 2021 at 2:55 pm

    They say that NYC always has the best New Year’s Eve Party…I’d say it’s overrated, as well every year they drop the ball, but anyway it’s something to celebrate as Deblasio is gone tomorrow, news says he will however be on TV again tonight at the celebration as a last hurrah…New Mayor Eric Adams is supposedly skipping the celebration and swearing in..

    But anyway staying home no Rona for me, no amount of free Champagne would get me to a party this year.

    However dear old mom who should not be leaving home has a reservation at a local establishment to ring in the new year Irish time from 4:30PM -7:30 PM with about 16 friends. Seems no amount of cajoling to stay home will work. I was told to lay off they will wear masks and bring sanitizer etc. I know of one little old lady in that group is unvaxxed, she say she never had a vaccine including polio, and won’t start now. These are all dyed in the wool NY Metro democrats all Irish immigrants of the silent generation. They made it this far hopefully none will regret the decision to party tonight.

    Anyway searing a nice steak tonight on my charcoal grill adding a bit of blue cheese….. doing some basic sides as well nothing to brag about some baked potatoes, sautéed mushrooms, a nice salad etc. I have a cache of some nice imported fireworks may go wild tonight (the good stuff, but no mortars as don’t have any), maybe fire pit, as my nice teak chairs out still out and maybe even a nice cigar……haven’t had one of those in months.

    Happy New Year Folks!! Hope you and yours especially the ones that are now sick feel better in the morning. Sprinkle some sugar on your pillow tonight to start the new year with some sweet dreams…

  33. Jim says:
    December 31, 2021 at 3:10 pm

    Lib,
    I’ll be selling my multi in the coming 18 months.

    The sooner the better, the market is overpriced and will adjust when interest rates rise, it is inevitable. I sold two buildings this year and netted $650,000, one I sold to my plumber who knew I was getting ready to sell, the other was sold by a realtor ( except I did all the showings in order to protect the tenants). The real bad news is my capital gains tax is $129,000. Fortunately I cut me earnings down so that might be all the tax I will pay this year. The $140,000 I made in the stock market( IRA) is untaxed until I take it out….which I will not do this year.
    If I were you I would strike ASAP, my six unit building had 3 full price offers and I took the all CASH offer with absolutely no inspections. If you wait too long you will regret it. I also plan on listing another one in April. At seventy years old it is time.

  34. 3b says:
    December 31, 2021 at 3:46 pm

    Juice: Sounds like your Mom is doing the Tommy Fox New Years thing. The old Irish folks do it every year.

  35. 3b says:
    December 31, 2021 at 3:55 pm

    My sister owns a 3 family house in Pelham Bay in the Bronx. All the gas pipes to the house have to be replaced 30k job. Small apartments , 2 two bedrooms and 1 one bedroom. Realtors said she will get 1,000,000.00 for it! I keep
    telling her to dump it, and get a 2 bedroom condo. The houses are all
    Packed together on top of each other. It was a predominately Italian neighborhood, but is changing a lot of Albanians and Lebanese now, in addition to Hispanics. The local Catholic grammar school closed last year. She said she is thinking about it! She is crazy not to sell!

  36. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 4:05 pm

    Stay home drunks, I have to work today. None of that “hold my beer” crap either.

  37. The Great Pumpkin says:
    December 31, 2021 at 4:21 pm

    Ultimately, about 70% of the partygoers were infected.
    Scientists who traced this super spreader event concluded it was evidence that omicron was “highly transmissible” among fully-vaccinated adults.
    Just over a month later, omicron’s speedy worldwide ascent now makes it abundantly clear that the party wasn’t an isolated example. In country after country, the new variant has outcompeted its predecessor, the delta variant — with one case of omicron sparking at least three other new infections on average. Cases have soared to record highs in parts of Europe and now the U.S., where about half a million new infections have been recorded in a single day.
    “This is a game-changing virus, especially in the vaccinated population where people have had a level of invincibility,” says Sumit Chanda, a professor in the Department of Immunology and Microbiology at Scripps Research.
    Indeed, in a world where vaccinations and infections have built up immunity, other variants were having trouble gaining a foothold. Yet omicron is thriving.
    “This changes the calculus for everybody,” says Chanda.

  38. The Great Pumpkin says:
    December 31, 2021 at 4:24 pm

    BRT,

    This is def spreading more than ever. I know you have your position, but it seems like it’s spreading like never before.

  39. The Great Pumpkin says:
    December 31, 2021 at 4:53 pm

    “My prediction for 2022:
    the year of mass adoption

    Your mental framework should be Amara’s law, not hypercyclicality

    Emerging technologies are overestimated in short run and underestimated in long run

    2017-2019 period of overestimation

    2020-2030 period of underestimation”

    https://twitter.com/zhusu/status/1476925746077569024?s=21

  40. The Great Pumpkin says:
    December 31, 2021 at 5:55 pm

    “The legendary investor Charlie Munger turns 98 tomorrow!

    Over >40 years he’s compounded at an incredible rate of ~19.65% and served as vice-chairman of Berkshire Hathaway since 1978.

    Here are 98 lessons from the maestro himself:”

    “On patience vs smarts: “I did not succeed in life by intelligence. I succeeded because I have a long attention span.”

    On adopting new views: “Any year that you don’t destroy one of your best-loved ideas is probably a wasted year””

    https://twitter.com/srivatsprakash/status/1476997147232976896?s=21

  41. grim says:
    December 31, 2021 at 6:02 pm

    We decided to shut the distillery down early tonight, we were going to stay open until 10. No sense at this point. We did an astronomical amount of take out cocktail and cocktail kit preorders this week, so lots of folks are staying in, or doing small get togethers at home. We don’t generally cater to the amateur night crew, so a big party until midnight was never in the cards.

  42. No One says:
    December 31, 2021 at 6:21 pm

    Wake Forest stomped on Rutgers 38-10. In Rutgers’ defense, they shouldn’t have made a bowl game, and only got the invite on short notice because Texas A&M football players got too much covid.

  43. Walking says:
    December 31, 2021 at 6:44 pm

    Mtv running classic videos from the 80s , take a break from the world and immerse yourself in the golden years

  44. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 7:33 pm

    Grim
    Damn, I needed a place to drink after work. Bummer.

  46. BRT says:
    December 31, 2021 at 8:04 pm

    This is def spreading more than ever. I know you have your position, but it seems like it’s spreading like never before.

    I don’t even want to know what you think my position is but I predicted this third wave months ahead of it materializing. Happy new year.

  47. Hold my beer says:
    December 31, 2021 at 8:08 pm

    Phoenix

    This makes me sad

    ‘None of that hold my beer crap either”

  48. RentL0rd says:
    December 31, 2021 at 8:32 pm

    Not to be too grim, but mental health issues will see another boom in 2022

  49. Yo! says:
    December 31, 2021 at 8:53 pm

    2022 predictions:

    NJ home prices +10%
    NJ house rents +20%
    NJ apartment rents +5%
    Grim shuts down njrereport because no longer sees a bubble burst

  50. Phoenix says:
    December 31, 2021 at 9:22 pm

    HMB,

    Only till 11 pm. One of your colleagues already tried tonight to kill themselves. That has been thwarted.

    You need to make it to 2022 in order to get the full experience.

  51. Chicago says:
    December 31, 2021 at 9:41 pm

    2022 Predictions:

    Clot franchises The Falls Wine Room concept, and trademarks the tag line “No Snooki”.

    Stu makes a weekly reference to being morbidly obese, and decides that he will never sell the multi, because he can’t bear a life without being able to kvetch about it.

    Eddie is attacked by Antifa and falls into a several weeks coma. When he awakens, he is altered and now believes that he is Hillary. He spends his remaining days waddling as if he has cankles, and keeps asking VP Harris out on dates.

    Bystander is RIF’ed and spends his days buying expensive blocks of Swiss cheese and implanting explosives in them. He then detonates and mutters under his breath something about contract work.

    Phoenix has a three way with a female cop and a female family court judge. The place him in handcuffs and beat him until he yelps “take my money. Take my life”. The judge then forces him into emergency surgery to remove foreign object from her Anya with his teeth.

    No One finds the crassest snippet from South Park and posts it.

    Hold My Beer is arrested for public indecency when he walks into Texas’ foremost Asian market, whips out his schlong and says “hold my duck”. Phoenix posts footage from Reddit.

  52. Chicago says:
    December 31, 2021 at 9:42 pm

    Anus not Anya

  53. BRT says:
    December 31, 2021 at 10:16 pm

    Commodities pullback, fed claims inflation actually was transitory, prints more

    Pumpkin rides ARKK down to$60 while talking smack the entire time

    No new covid restrictions, because midterm elections are approaching.

    Everyone on the board contracts Omicron, except me

    90% of stocks retreat to their values prior to the pandemic.

  54. Fast Eddie says:
    December 31, 2021 at 10:33 pm

    Chicago,

    LOL!!

  55. Hold my beer says:
    January 1, 2022 at 12:32 am

    First 2022

  57. grim says:
    January 1, 2022 at 6:32 am

    Happy New Year!

  58. Phoenix says:
    January 1, 2022 at 7:45 am

    Have a problem? Call a cop.

    Now you have two problems. Hahaha.

    Happy New Yea’ suckers!

    “A gas-leak alarm brought Wyckoff police to what turned out to be an underage drinking party, authorities said.

    Firefighters joined Sgt. Kevin Pinches and Officers James Bakelaar and Kaitlyn Maglione at the Howard Street home, where they “observed what they believed to be underaged [people] consuming alcoholic beverages in the garage,” Lt. Joseph Soto said.

    Police contacted the 51-year-old homeowner, who said she didn’t know why the alarm was activated, Soto said.

    They issued summonses, to be heard in Municipal Court, charging her with “purposely or knowingly serving alcohol to underaged persons” and “making property available for the purpose of alcoholic beverage consumption by underaged persons,” Soto said.

  59. Phoenix says:
    January 1, 2022 at 7:52 am

    Young lady I work with, spent New Years with her, recently bought her dream house from Boomer.

    Wants to change a vanity in the downstairs bathroom. Shows me a ton of pictures.

    Hubby confused about what to do, can’t do the most basic of plumbing, paranoid about flooding the house.

    What year did the mass gelding of men take place in America? Was I asleep?

    Covid is good. Kept everyone home last night. Well, almost. But enough to make my life easier. Glad you chose to start a mini baby boom 9 months from now rather than coming to visit me. I am grateful to you.

  60. No One says:
    January 1, 2022 at 8:17 am

    Chi,
    In this video I think the woodland critters are analogous to most government agencies. Like the CDC. You think they’re nice and there to help, but…
    https://youtu.be/hulS6xlnvNA

  61. The Great Pumpkin says:
    January 1, 2022 at 9:36 am

    Andy Cohen drunk rant ripping the outgoing mayor.

    https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1477144532869423110?s=21

  62. BRT says:
    January 1, 2022 at 9:43 am

    What year did the mass gelding of men take place in America? Was I asleep?

    The “STEM” movement. They got rid of all the wood shop classes where you learned to use tools. Wood shop was converted to “technology class”, and they changed the curriculum to playing with legos and drones.

    There is also a crazy educational consultant in NJ that has his hands in the ears of every supervisor. They all attend his “workshops” on safety. He has them all convinced that there is a legal liability that is not worth it to let kids to use any “power tools”. These tools include, bandsaws, drills and even hot glue guns. My supervisor actually tried to tell me that I can’t use a power drill in school because “I’m not certified”. Of course, I ignore her.

  63. Phoenix says:
    January 1, 2022 at 10:01 am

    BRT,
    Let me come to your class. I can explain to them that there are people that can put those severed fingers and hands back on so no worries.

    Just make sure to pack them in ice before you send them. That’s the good thing about the snow thrower disarticulations, you don’t need to run for the fridge, plenty of snow and ice so all you need is a bucket or baggie.

  65. Phoenix says:
    January 1, 2022 at 10:20 am

    You have to appreciate the narcissism and authority of a judge. Even years later, they don’t like a verdict, they, with the sweep of a pen, can do whatever they want to anyone anytime they like. The American justice system is a failure.

    Three days after sending Michelle Lodzinski to prison in 2016 for killing her 5-year-old son, a group of jurors in the high-profile case quietly gathered at Raritan Center in Edison to pay tribute to the little boy.

    More than four years later, the jurors were gathered again Tuesday — this time by their phones and computers awaiting the 10 a.m. release of a state Supreme Court decision in the case. The jurors, who had kept in touch over the years via Facebook and a texting group, messaged each other with the stunning news that the court had overturned their verdict and Lodzinski would be set free.

    “They are all outraged,” Joe Mulvanerton, who served as Juror #2 in the case, said of the other jurors he has been in touch with over the last few days.

    “How dare they set aside our verdict. These judges have failed in their duty to uphold the law and achieve justice for little Timmy Wiltsey,” said Mulvanerton, 60, of Old Bridge. “This is a disgusting miscarriage of justice.”

    TIMELINE: A 30-year look-back at the Timothy Wiltsey case

    Another juror said he was baffled by the Supreme Court’s ruling that no “reasonable” jury could conclude Lodzinski was guilty based on the evidence presented at her trial.

    “I can’t understand how a judge determines if I’ve heard enough evidence to convict her,” said the 58-year-old man from Monmouth County, who asked that his name not be used. “This decision was not made lightly … It was the prosecutors’ job to convince us she was guilty. And they did.”

  66. 3b says:
    January 1, 2022 at 10:59 am

    Happy New Year!

  67. Phoenix says:
    January 1, 2022 at 11:03 am

    Why do female performers keep having “wardrobe accidents?” No one else seems to have them. Why does this always happen like this, at New Years, or the Super Bowl, etc?

    You would think if you didn’t want to be “objectified” you would hire wardrobe people who were competent. I mean, these are important gigs, there are children watching.

    Maybe they should hire NASA engineers to design clothing that won’t expose the public to “accidental” nudity.

    **** Or maybe it’s really part of the show to begin with…….

    “Miley Cyrus had a MAJOR wardrobe fail while co-hosting her New Year’s Eve Party special on NBC with Pete Davidson, which was streamed live from Miami, Florida on Friday night.”

  68. Bystander says:
    January 1, 2022 at 11:13 am

    Pretty good chi. A Rif would be ideal but I doubt I will get 9 months paid like my former BA in Zurich. She is still on staff since May RIF and will be until Feb. Happy New Year all.

    Here is a good one. My brother in law has been mostly unemployed for two decades. One year stints here or there. Two years ago, he asks me about my career and flippantly gets PMP. He gets let go after a year back at some Farm lobby in March. My sister works for DC billionaire who recommends my bro in law for a PM job at University where the billionaires name is actually on their business school. He got denied job last week. WTF?

  69. BRT says:
    January 1, 2022 at 12:18 pm

    We aren’t even worried about severed fingers. The bandsaw was at such a low clearance that you could barely get your pinky in there. They fear a burn from a hot glue gun. This is where we are at.

  70. Phoenix says:
    January 1, 2022 at 12:37 pm

    Americans don’t like to work, it’s preferable to have passive income, to get others to do work for them, sue your way into retirement, or claim disability and collect a check.

    Another reason manufacturing is dead in America, and not likely to come back.

    Lawyers are wonderful creatures aren’t they?

  71. Juice Box says:
    January 1, 2022 at 1:12 pm

    Spoke to an old programmer friend last night. He moved from Summit NJ to upstate NY near Albany to be near his grandkids. Well he has been in the hospital for the past 9 days with Rona. He did not get vaccinated, and well is a liberal democrat so he is not part of that antivax crowd. 60 years old, obese with high blood pressure etc right in the sweet spot for Rona, you would think he would get vaccinated. His 30 year old son was very sick at the beginning of the pandemic and lost partial eyesight due to a blood clot from the Beta variant, he had to have surgery over it too. His wife has even more health issues. He told me his 02 level is still 88 and they will keep him there until it goes up. For the life of me I cannot understand why he did not get vaccinated, did not offer up much of an excuse other than his wife was afraid of the vaccine.

  72. Phoenix says:
    January 1, 2022 at 1:31 pm

    I was trialing a new phone service, so slapped the sim card in an old phone I had. I guess this number belonged to “Carol.”

    Carol has lots of friends who like to text. Well, one just got over the Rona, and wanted to meet (her friend Carol.)

    So I responded that I (Carol) had the Rona too, and it turned me into a lesbian. Waiting to see if we have a potential date!

  73. Juice Box says:
    January 1, 2022 at 2:32 pm

    4,005 in the Hospital now for Covid in NJ…That is over a 1,000 more in 4 days. Peak was about 6300 back in April of 2020.

  74. BRT says:
    January 1, 2022 at 2:46 pm

    The hospitals may get overrun, but only because they keep telling people, go home and come back when you get even more sick.

    Had a friend go to Jersey City Medical Center to request monoclonals, they said, they are reserved for obese people only.

    I know of one individual, late 20s, has now had 3 infections. 3 hospitalizations. Must have no immune system.

  75. Phoenix says:
    January 1, 2022 at 2:51 pm

    Well now you have increased Covid patients with massive staff shortages. Those who can retire are leaving in droves. Others are traveling to make 4x the salary. Many places have stopped scheduling elective surgery, the only part of a hospital that generates any profit.

    2022 here we come. Hop in the saddle of the 2022 Bucking Bronco.

    Well, at least Warren Wilhelm, JR is gone.

    Hahaha.

  77. Juice Box says:
    January 1, 2022 at 3:58 pm

    Another record day 29,740 new cases 1 in 3 tested are positive. Over a dozen school districts have chosen to go remote next week.

  79. Jim says:
    January 1, 2022 at 5:22 pm

    Juice,

    I guess you can say Black lives matter more than the whites lives. People should wake up before the next election.
    Just make sure the whites pay their taxes, because Joe is going to need that money for his social programs and reparations.
    Wake up America!

  80. Libturd says:
    January 1, 2022 at 5:26 pm

    BRT,

    You are spot on about the end of home ec and woodshop (metal shop and automotive as well). I took 5 years of shop in high school. I can build anything out of wood. My biggest regret was not purchasing any of those industrial strength old bandsaws, surface planers and table saws as the programs were being dismantled. I’m sure they could have been had for the cost of removal. When I was in college, they were dismantling the shop/metal/plastic program and transforming it into technology education. All part of the great changeover from manufacturing to service economy. I can run a printing press, a CNC press or mill, a printing press, all of the wood shop equipment including pneumatic equipment, etc. It’s been incredibly helpful to maintaining the two homes. My older son, he can’t turn a screw. I constantly try to show him what I’m doing when performing repairs or maintenance and when he pays attention, he finds it interesting and takes pride. But usually, he would rather just play COD.

  81. Phoenix says:
    January 1, 2022 at 6:15 pm

    People should wake up before the next election.

    And not elect a geriatric president.

  82. njtownhomer says:
    January 1, 2022 at 8:02 pm

    Happy New Years everyone!

    Real Estate: NJ up 10%. Check out the electric parts prices as well as basic materials.

    Stocks/Securities: All markets will enjoy Nov result, expect a dump in spring and then a roaring rise that make up 10%+ by year-end

    Economy: more opening up with pauses along the way [scared by inflation]. Overall inflation iff controlled would be a net positive thing. Europe will be a burden though.

    Commodities: Metals up, Gold 20%, Copper 30% yoy.

    Inflation: will end up close to 5% year end.

    Hopefully this year will be a great one for value investors.

  83. BRT says:
    January 1, 2022 at 8:11 pm

    Lib, we brought in a band saw, belt sander, drills etc… in our end of the year project and taught all the kids how to use it. Admin shut it down, despite a 19 year track record of zero accidents. It got replaced with kinex. Very sad. The worst part was, the girls were the ones who were most enthusiastic about using the band saw.

  84. Chicago says:
    January 1, 2022 at 8:48 pm

    Is this a good example of a band saw?
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lPvTTc7jAVQ

  85. Libturd says:
    January 1, 2022 at 9:38 pm

    The only real dangerous tool was the lathe. But that’s because you held the cutting tool.

  86. Fabius Maximus says:
    January 1, 2022 at 10:00 pm

    Some great news. Just finished my last round of fighting with the hospital where they claimed Out of Network.

    “Effective today, federal law bans most out-of-network medical bills and puts the onus on doctors and insurance companies to resolve payment disputes.

    In many scenarios, consumers should no longer face unexpected charges from doctors not in their networks.”

    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1477337715473625097

  87. Libturd says:
    January 1, 2022 at 10:23 pm

    I’ll believe it when I see it.

  88. BRT says:
    January 1, 2022 at 10:28 pm

    I had an issue with that. The doctor actually was in network but they were claiming he wasn’t. Don’t ask me how. I was even calling up and constantly badgering the insurance company on his behalf. But the guy was such a lazy turd, and he was like “I’m tired of waiting, I would just like you to pay me directly”. He wanted me to pay 100% of his grossly inflated bill that he was only going to collect 15% on.

  89. grim says:
    January 2, 2022 at 7:45 am

    I’ll believe it when I see it.

    I agree. I mentioned my own experience here. A $50,000 bill from a NICU physician when my daughter was born. $10k a day. “We don’t accept any insurance” was what they told me at the time. I told them to go f*ck themselves. Ultimately my insurance paid, at least that’s what I assume happened, since I stopped receiving collection threats from them. This was a hospital we chose specifically because it was in-network, and it was a high-risk pregnancy. This was a question that we specifically asked the hospital, that they responded in the affirmative. We were later told by hospital administration that the usual attending nicu physician (company) was out on vacation and there was backup who was staffing the nicu (another company, seems every one of these doctors is a company in and of themselves).

    It was this experience that taught me that your insurance company actually doesn’t give a flying f*ck about insuring you. In fact, they’ll go out of their way to NOT need to actually insure you. Also learned that most hospital administration has no f*cking idea how any of this actually works either.

    The legislation is flawed, by the way. The only way to fix this is to require that every healthcare provider who practices in a hospital accepts all insurance plans that the “hospital” does. Yes, this means healthcare providers lose negotiating power with the insurance companies. So be it. Our healthcare model is flawed, there is no way to gain price transparency unless it’s driven through the insurers, and that’s all there is to it.

  90. grim says:
    January 2, 2022 at 9:38 am

    Same issue as real estate.

    Non-existent consumer price transparency benefits the seller exclusively.

  91. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 9:42 am

    Yup same crap with my son’s ENT, but with a twist. My son needed his adenoids removed. Doctor in network, Hospital in network. Wing of the hospital right next to the emergency room where the same day procedure to be performed, well that is out of network. Then the surprise $10,000 bill arrives. I told them to GFY, insurance told me not to pay etc, they sent their payment and the check was cashed. Did get a few collection notices, I told them to get lost.

    Wing of hospital that is out of network is some corp owned by a bunch of people did some digging on it, the doctor I was told was part owner, never able to confirm it though. I surmise that he is in-network to get patients only, a little bait and switch for the procedure location perhaps.

    Get rich or die trying…

  92. SmallGovConservative says:
    January 2, 2022 at 9:42 am

    Phoenix says:
    January 1, 2022 at 7:52 am
    “What year did the mass gelding of men take place in America? Was I asleep?”

    Don’t discount the impact of divorce having becoming commonplace, and the resulting number of boys primarily raised by women. As much as single moms will say they try to ensure their son(s) are raised like boys and/or have a male influence in their lives, my anecdotal observation is that these boys can’t escape their mother’s feminine frame of reference and are negatively impacted by not having a full time father in their lives (much more than daughters) — negative impact could be as simple as not having a basic understanding of their home’s mechanical systems (or knowing the diff between a standard and phillips screwdriver), or as serious as thinking that you need to run to a therapist anytime you encounter something difficult in life.

  93. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 9:48 am

    Yup Rob Kenney’s youtube channel, super popular.

    Shaving, fixing toilets, jump start a car, check fluids on the car, small repairs etc..

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNepEAWZH0TBu7dkxIbluDw/

  94. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 9:57 am

    price transparency?

    Where you going with this efficient markets?

    Complex medical and surgical services, are by definition impossible to shop. I spent some time down in the weeds for a medical biller. The coding and billing system is antiquated even though it’s been revised many times and designed to be gamed in my opinion.

    Just look at what is going on right now with simple vaccination and covid testing, most of this is being gamed to charge way way more than should be for a simple nasal swab and a shot and nothing is being done about it. How is this not massive fraud?

  95. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:02 am

    re: “only dangerous tool was the lathe”

    Nah we had one of those kids in high school. Phil the stoner cut his pointer finger on the saw. I was not there to see it but there were quite a few tales told of the teacher passing out as well as a few students from all the blood etc.

  96. BRT says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:34 am

    Juice, Singapore has had a transparent system for decades. So much so that medical tourism of people going there for treatments is very common.

  97. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:41 am

    Juice,
    Ever see what a lathe can do?

    The stuff of nightmares I tell you.

  98. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:42 am

    BRT

    Does Singapore take United Healthcare?

    haha.

  99. BRT says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:43 am

    Also, this whole covid testing nonsense is exactly why you can’t have single payer in the US. You have a gigantic pool of money of tens of billions of dollars for the taking. And testing is free, therefore, everyone is willing to line up and do it as much as they want. I wouldn’t be opposed to individual states running it but nationally, the thing will break down. Florida has always had medical fraud as a major source of income to the tune of billions of dollars. It’s akin to UK and France and the rest of Europe sharing the same system. If the US wanted to emulate Europe, each state would have their own system instead of one gigantic conglomerate. That being said, imagine giving Murphy and the rest of these morons control of that.

  100. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:44 am

    SGC
    Good point. Def makes sense. They control the narrative.

    So good in fact they are beating old men in the face on airplanes and spitting on them thinking they have the right to do it.

    How dare that old man complain about the beating he got.

  101. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:46 am

    As for the other topic, you really want the doctor that’s the employee of the hospital.

    Hahaha. Shop for a coroner the same day.

    No one good is doing that. The better docs want insurance that pays, you know, like the stuff the State of NJ employees have, or what the boss has, but not the private workers.

    Some docs are all cash now.

    Capitalism. It’s good. Have a tall glass of it.

  102. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:49 am

    You don’t pay yourself and your shareholders by paying for actual healthcare do you? You want to profit, you need to deny.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=united+healthcare+stock&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS786US786&oq=united+healthcare+stock&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512l9.5173j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

  103. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:50 am

    Look at the Max on that stock.

  104. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:51 am

    Complex medical and surgical services, are by definition impossible to shop.

    You should try doing them sometime. You think they are hard to shop?

  105. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:55 am

    All passive income means is that some laz zy a zz is goldbricking while they profit.

    There is soft po rnn, and soft theft. Someone making money doing nothing.

    That doesn’t get the pyramid built, folks.

  106. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:58 am

    Headline, today’s WP. Poor Phil here is now on a terrorist watch list:

    1 in 3 Americans say violence against government can be justified, citing fears of political schism, pandemic1 in 3 Americans say violence against government can be justified, citing fears of political schism, pandemic

    Phil Spampinato had never contemplated the question of whether violence against the government might be justified — at least not in the United States. But as he watched Republicans across the country move to reshape election laws in response to former president Donald Trump’s false fraud claims, the part-time engineering consultant from Dover, Del., said he began thinking differently about “defending your way of life.”

    “Not too many years ago, I would have said that those conditions are not possible, and that no such violence is really ever appropriate,” said Spampinato, 73, an independent.

  107. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:59 am

    Phoenix – I said impossible….which means neither erect or hard.

    Supposedly AI computing will change all that.

  108. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:07 am

    Juice,
    Agreed.

    AI

    Utopian world ahead. Watched Nosedive episode Dark Mirror with my kid last night.

    What a rip. She has an outburst at the airport, they lower her score, no flight for her. Ends up in an electric rental car she cannot charge as it’s too old.

    The lower her score dropped, the less people around her who knew her would help her. In fact, she is avoided like the plague and shunned.
    Now that is real in America for sure.

  109. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:09 am

    Prince Harry and Meghan Markle ‘plan to leave $14m California home and find somewhere new’ – because they’re ‘not over the moon’ with luxury property

    May I suggest Wayne, NJ

  110. Libturd says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:09 am

    No one has more medical claims than my kiddo. We are well up into the multiple millions paid. I’ve seen what all of you are claiming so many times that I expect it. I’ll add to the madness too. I went to a surgical center for my achilles tendon rupture that was in-network, but owned by all of the doctors (just like Juice’s) that performed there. This way they collect on both the residence and performance. This surgi center was staffed with so many spec1alists, who were all out of network, that the bills just never stopped coming. There was the doctor who gave me the valium, the doctor who took my temperature, the epidural team, two other doctors who were in the room when they were repairing the rupture. It’s all kind of funny, because when I asked the doctor what the success rate was, he said close to 100% and he reiterated how simple it was. He said I should shop it around, but that it was so easy of a procedure, you won’t find any differences between performing surgeons. They all can do it. What he didn’t say is where they would do it and whether or not the zoo of workers involved would take my insurance. Another thing happened there. When I walked in the door, they asked for my whole deductible, plus coinsurance, which amounted to $2,000. I told them that it doesn’t work this way and I’m pretty sure that it’s illegal to collect this ahead of time. They ushered me right in without prepayment. What a racket. I bet half of their patients pay it.

    We recently encountered another disgusting practice. D’s occupational therapist of many years was fired from the group she worked with (Children’s Spec1alized) when the pandemic hit. This moved her from in-network to out-of network. Before we continued to work with her (once the first surge died down) we called BCBS of Minnesota to determine how much it would cost us out-of-pocket. They said they could not tell us. Well I said, what is the most you will pay? Again, they said they could not tell us. So I then gave them the treatment codes (CPT) and they claimed they nor anyone there could ever tell me what the max cost they would pay be nor could they tell me what I would have to pay. So I asked, how could I possibly use a third party provider if I have no idea how much coverage you would provide. They said sorry. So of course, we bit the bullet and they covered our therapist in full. But what if they didn’t. There is no way of knowing what they will cover. You must be prepared to pay in full if you go out of network. So why did we not seek a new in-network Occupational Therapist. First there almost none-available after school hours. Even if there were, they were only offering telehealth which would have been useless for the D. Finally, due to D’s immuno-compromised position and unvaccinated status (he was too young), he couldn’t participate in a public gym. Of course, once we started working with her again, it took 6 months for the insurance company to stop fukcing up and pay her bills. I ran the claim through 5 times. It appears established health care companies have a portal they use for claims which are automated. I know, because my son’s BCBA center gets them processed in about 45 days on average. Six months? Come on. Well once I got the first claim through, I figured it would go smoothly the next time. Well, it was another 5 months this time. I decided to do one per year going forward. It’s just easier.

    If I lived in CR, there is no paperwork. No in-network, out-of-network sh1t. Either you belong to the caja or you pay extra for private medical supplemental (which mainly covers aesthetic procedures). No copays, no out-of-pocket maximums, no deductions. Just hand them your caja card and you are done. And it’s higher rated than ours. Plus a 2/3 to 3/4 less in cost than ours.

  111. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:14 am

    So, let’s see who started this mess.

    “Call-out culture” has been in use since 2014 as part of the #MeToo movement.[17]

    Cancel culture
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Cancel culture or call-out culture is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional circles – whether it be online, on social media, or in person. Those subject to this ostracism are said to have been “cancelled”.[1][a][4] The expression “cancel culture” has mostly negative connotations.

    ]

  112. Libturd says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:22 am

    One last post, then it’s workout time.

    I saw a commercial last night for a new show called, “the Cleaning Lady.” I have not watched it nor do I plan to, but we may have reached the peak of this cancel culture movement.

    Someone else can do the research, but in the commercial, the cleaning lady saves someone’s life, but can’t take credit for it since she is an illegal. They don’t say, but she must have been a highly trained medical spec1alist in her former country. So now she cleans toilets and saves lives. This is what passes for a superhero in 2022.

    I am so woke, I’m not sure I’ll ever sleep again.

  113. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:22 am

    Phoenix re: The Princess and the frog..

    One thing we could use less of in 2022. Their Hollywood PR firm is awfully busy trying to collect their fees. When does Harry start wearing and skirt and transitioning?

  114. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:28 am

    Libturd

    Isn’t all of what you suggested part of Radical Capitalism? Is it illegal to for them to ask you to pay up front? If it is, are you going to hire an attorney to fight that for 500/hr and what will you win after all is said and done?

    Is it illegal for the insurance company to not tell you what your benefits are? What are you going to do about it? Do you have any LEVERAGE?

    LEVERAGE. What leverage do you have in an American Corporate run government system? You want a trial? Haha. Corporations have polluted vast areas and people have died waiting for the American Justice System to pay their medical bills.

    It’s the justice system and the laws created by the Corporate run Government masters where the problem lies here. But we want this, and we accept this, no one makes any noise like they would in Europe if this was happening. Americans are weak and unorganized, too lazy to fight for moral beliefs.

    As for eazy Lib, you know what it’s like to have someone opened while they are prone and they code? I’ve had people go down on the simplest of cases. Nothing, nothing is routine when you are on any form of anesthesia. You know how many people lie, don’t tell you what drugs they took the night before? Or patients that get arrested shooting up heroin in the ER-can’t wait for their fix?

    BTW, hope they used Fiberwire on you. Achilles Tendon, were you trying to be a sports star at your age :)?

  115. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:34 am

    Newsflash companies are now sending out emails today extending work from home…

    Parents on FB are going nuts about schools and the new vaccine mandate for kids to participate in extracurricular activities, lots of comments about the vax not working and that we are all sheeples….Seems Zuck’s algorithms are working perfectly, as eyeballs on that info is trending…

  116. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:38 am

    Women started cancel culture to control and emasculate men. More women go to college then men do-and they take courses on how to control the narrative. Right now they have immense power over men, unless you are talking raw physical.

    Men are watching “Dirty Jobs” having that donkey tell men how doing this is a great thing for them to do as he enjoys his 30 million dollars from a TV show.

    If he loved his “dirty jobs” why isn’t he doing them 7-5?

    Dirty jobs will get you cancer. Dirty jobs will get you a fractured pelvis. Dirty jobs will get you a chronic lung condition.

    What does a teacher get, carpal tunnel syndrome from typing on a computer? Oh, plus benefits, summers, weekends and a pension. Mike Rowe is doing a disservice to all men.

    Go and price disability insurance. You are 10x more likely to become disabled than dead.
    First thing they are going to ask you is what is your career. Are you an accountant, a lawyer, a teacher, or a mason, a roofer, or truckdriver? Wait till you see the difference in premiums between an accountant and a roofer.

  117. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:40 am

    Juice,
    Is Harry into pegging? Didn’t see that in the Daily Mail, but if he was, and they knew, at least that unfiltered paper would post it unlike the gelded American news.

  118. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:44 am

    Chi – Pazzo MMX restaurant in Red Bank.

    Rona got the owner on Christmas Day he was only 50 years old.

    https://claytonfuneralhome.com/tribute/details/4385/Richard-Dell-Anno/obituary.html?fbclid=IwAR2G8WXPY79tQBx8NidkZFH2dmFF9o_02AxLZ3uZyOKPDEZ7lgeFRcXh7y0

  119. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:52 am

    Phoenix – He’s supposedly into juggling that is a sure sign the PR company for 2022 has put together all kinds of PR pitches for the fallen royals…$50,000 per month the PR folks can cost, if the results are not there with the 2021 boyish wackiness they will go dark…It’s all about the eyeballs and imprints. Heck he could even get into a fender bender or two with some locals and blame it on driving on the wrong side of the road.

  120. D-FENS says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:55 am

    This I known as the “drinking bleach hoax”

    He was talking about the “heal light”. It’s a UV light treatment for the lungs that was being tested to treat lung infections before the pandemic. I had been watching a livestream two days before where the presenter was listing all the possible therapeutic treatments we should try as a stopgap to vaccines including the “heal light”. The president’s advisors were known to watch this podcast and it’s likely they were telling him all the treatments and ideas that were around at the time.

    The next thing I know every news outlet is reporting Trump told everyone to “drink bleach” and even educated people I know were regurgitating this as if it were fact.

    Fascinating actually.

    Phoenix says:
    December 29, 2021 at 12:23 pm
    Trump also told you to inject bleach into your veins.

    Haha.

    It’s time for China to put the final nails in the coffin of this corrupt country.

  121. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 12:00 pm

    Trump did indeed speculate that an injection of disinfectants like bleach could have a curative effect.

    “And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?” Trump said during a news conference at the White House in April, after a briefing from a Homeland Security official who described the ability of disinfectants like bleach to kill the coronavirus on surfaces.

    “Because, you see, it gets on the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that. So that you’re going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.”

  122. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 12:04 pm

    No one with any common sense would even make dopey speculations on something like this.

    There are documented cases where Americans have taken a pill and shoved it up their a zz when it was meant to be given orally, and cases where suppositories have been ingested orally.

    You have to teach to the lowest common denominator in America, lest they eat a Tide Pod.

    You are the President, it isn’t Tik-Tok you muppet.

  123. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 12:09 pm

    Brain dead Biden as well with the Jonas Brothers.

    When did the Presidency in America become such a clown show?

  124. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 12:13 pm

    Or that goofball Bush looking like a blue windows screen with a rotating circle in the middle while America is under attack during the Gulf war.

    He looked beyond brain dead. Kind of like this:

    https://media.tenor.com/images/a90a02f93e4c714cec1a01d187cbb093/tenor.png

  125. 3b says:
    January 2, 2022 at 12:15 pm

    I don’t understand why Americans are so obsessed with the royals.

  126. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 12:24 pm

    3b
    I don’t understand why I haven’t become a drug addict, a stoner, or alcoholic by now.

    I’m beginning to think they have the right idea.

    Women too:

    Women far outpace their male counterparts when it comes to the consumption of mental health medications, with 25 percent using at least one psychotropic drug as compared to 15 percent of men. These are findings from research by Medco Health Solutions, Inc. (NYSE: MHS) that were presented Saturday at the 2012 Women’s Health Congress.

  127. D-FENS says:
    January 2, 2022 at 12:34 pm

    Fascinating

    Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 12:00 pm
    Trump did indeed speculate that an injection of disinfectants like bleach could have a curative effect.

    “And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?” Trump said during a news conference at the White House in April, after a briefing from a Homeland Security official who described the ability of disinfectants like bleach to kill the coronavirus on surfaces.

    “Because, you see, it gets on the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that. So that you’re going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.”

  129. D-FENS says:
    January 2, 2022 at 12:39 pm

    It’s like a mass hypnosis or something. It actually frightens me how easy it works.

  130. D-FENS says:
    January 2, 2022 at 12:42 pm

    When you put something inside the body to kill an “infection”, what might someone call that substance?

  131. BidenIsTheGOAT says:
    January 2, 2022 at 12:50 pm

    The delivery was a brain fart but I heard mccolough talk about the use of diluted bleach. He has used it as an early treatment with a netty put to kill the virus in your nostrils. It disrupts the viral reproduction.

    Meanwhile fauci has gotten between 1-500k by eschewing treatments in his pursuit of the failed shots as a sole covid strategy. Total criminal, he’s been wrong about almost ensuring and people in the cult of Fauci cling to his every word.

  132. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 12:55 pm

    Yes Yes, the early days of the Pandemic in April 2020, like the old wives tales of yore passed down orally the story changed from disinfectant which then became bleach and then became drinking bleach and then actual bleach injections.

    What Trump was talking about in his buffonish way was conflated with cleaning surfaces and actually using UV Light in the lungs. It was pitched along with countless other unproven therapeutics in a mad rush to get some $$$$ government payday.

    BTW the UV Light treatment to disinfect the lungs was tried in Cedars Sinai, Covid patients were given an experimental treatment for five days of 20-minute treatments with ultraviolet (UVA) light using a catheter inserted into the patients’ tracheas.

    It works!

    https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/reduced-viral-loads-seen-in-covid-19-patients-treated-with-uva-light/

  133. grim says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:08 pm

    UV light is regularly referred to as a disinfectant, especially in commonly used areas like water purification. It’s easy to begin to conflate “disinfectant” with other common household disinfectants.

  134. Bystander says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:14 pm

    Wow, how do you “inject” UV light D..tell us more on what the Orange ignoramus really meant with his big medical brain.

  135. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:15 pm

    The company Aytu BioPharma was never able to commercialize the UVA treatment stock is now only 1.35

    They have however patented it.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/aytu-biopharma-announces-issuance-first-130000906.html

  136. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:25 pm

    It’s not that you inject.. Trump is a buffon when speaking we all know that. This was covered at the time by many news orgs and fact checkers. Aytu BioPharma did a press release on testing it on Covid patients a few days before the April 23rd 2020 press conference.

    During the April 23 White House Coronavirus Task Force briefing, Bill Bryan spoke about disinfectants and sunlight etc.

    Trump then floated the idea that ultraviolet light could be used in the body as a treatment along with many other things that were spoken about that day including cleaning surfaces etc.

    “So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and, I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it,” he said. “And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that, too. It sounds interesting.”

    Social media exploded with drinking bleach and bleach injections etc. It was just another one of those foot in mouth things that Trump should be give a Trophy for. Instead of letting the experts speak and sticking to the script he felt the need to pump himself up. I for one don’t miss his tweets and his defensive reactions to questions from the press, even ones he deemed friendly.

  137. D-FENS says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:27 pm

    Using fiber optic cable, through the esophagus

    Bystander says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:14 pm
    Wow, how do you “inject” UV light D..tell us more on what the Orange ignoramus really meant with his big medical brain.

  138. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:31 pm

    Lol not the esophagus the trachea.

  139. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:31 pm

    Esophagus?
    Are they treating the stomach and the GI tract?

  140. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:33 pm

    Well he could have suggested this:

    https://youtu.be/edIi6hYpUoQ?t=32

  141. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:38 pm

    BTW – There are plenty of clinical trials you can score some quick cash if you are covid positive. They will give you $400 bucks for this one to participate.

    COVID-OUT Trial Phase three trial too..

    Drug: Metformin
    Drug: Placebo
    Drug: Fluvoxamine
    Drug: Ivermectin

    Yup Ivermectin…..HORSE DEWORMER!

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04510194

  142. D-FENS says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:41 pm

    I’m not in the medical field but yeah. Down the mouth into the lungs. Pretty easy for any layman to imagine how the treatment might be administered.

  143. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:44 pm

    Just looking through the trial data 7,216 studies for Covid right now.

    A few eventually will be another golden goose.

    Could it be the Ivermectin Nasal Spray for COVID19 Patients or something simple like a vitamin or mineral treatment?

  144. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:47 pm

    Covid is probably killed by an one of your favorite spirits distilled by Grim.

    Have someone tell you a joke while taking a double shot, when it blows out your nostrils you are cured.

  145. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:48 pm

    By the way there are so many fraudulent covid treatment studies out there that some are saying we should assume that every study is fraudulent until proven otherwise.

    https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22776428/ivermectin-science-publication-research-fraud

  146. Ex says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:58 pm

    11:09 it probably really secluded. Why the hell would a young couple who claim to want normal lives sequester themselves in a place like that ? Probably their neighbor Oprah. Who really wouldn’t know now would she.

    If I were them I would buy a top notch place in Echo Park.

  147. Ex says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:58 pm

    Or Los Feliz…..

  148. Ex says:
    January 2, 2022 at 1:58 pm

    Or the Palisades….

  149. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 2:01 pm

    Won’t be long before enough American Karens infest Costa Rica and cause the natives to commit suicide.

  151. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 2:03 pm

    24,710 new positive PCR tests reported for NJ, number is down 5,030 cases from peak but consider testing was shut down for the holiday too.

    4,280 in the Hospital up a tick +238 from 12/31. At this pace by next week they could be low on beds..

  152. BRT says:
    January 2, 2022 at 2:03 pm

    By the way there are so many fraudulent covid treatment studies out there that some are saying we should assume that every study is fraudulent until proven otherwise.

    Not true, the only legitimate studies that have proven to be correct are the Pfizer and Moderna studies that claimed 96% effective.

  153. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 2:03 pm

    Ex,
    Why not Queens, NY? Was good enough for the Crown Prince of Zamunda.

  154. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 2:06 pm

    You end up in the ER, ask for a traveling nurse. They only have a 4-1 patient ratio by contract.

    OTOH, the rest of the staff is unlimited. So when the traveler only takes 4, the regular staff takes 12 or more. Someone has to pick up the slack.

    Listen for an accent. If your nurse sounds like they are from Tennessee, that’s the one you want.

  155. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 2:07 pm

    Enjoy your outsourcing, pr ic kz.

  156. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 2:18 pm

    Govenor Murphy’s wife has Covid now…claim it was a close contact in their home and not their jaunt to Costa Rica.

  157. BRT says:
    January 2, 2022 at 2:19 pm

    The only medication Fauci promoted was Remdesivir. Turned out, it was the least effective with the most deadly side effects. The guy is in the pocket of big pharma, the FDA/CDC are essentially captured.

    As far as UV light goes, it was one of the primary ways of treating sickness for decades prior to the advent of antibiotics. There was a paper prior to the pandemic that brought it back up. They would run your blood through a UV light.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6122858/
    Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood: “The Cure That Time Forgot”?

  158. grim says:
    January 2, 2022 at 2:44 pm

    4,280 in the Hospital up a tick +238 from 12/31. At this pace by next week they could be low on beds..

    Sure looks like that’s going to be the case.

  159. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 2:50 pm

    Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood: “The Cure That Time Forgot”?

    And with good reason. It’s not without it’s faults. UV is nasty stuff.

    But then again, if you are lying on your stomach with a tube down your throat breathing like a fish on the floor of a rowboat, well then, what the h E 77?

  160. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 2:53 pm

    I wonder just how much Covid cost America.

    Hospital bills, lost productivity, general disruption.

    Has to be at least as bad as a World War.

  161. BRT says:
    January 2, 2022 at 2:59 pm

    And with good reason. It’s not without it’s faults. UV is nasty stuff.

    You have to distinguish between the spectrum of UV light. Higher frequency is very bad. Lower frequency is not. If you care to read the article, they actually go over the effects on the blood/plasma and how they attenuated for that.

  162. grim says:
    January 2, 2022 at 3:00 pm

    We’ve got some barrel proof stuff at just shy of 130 proof, blow some of that out your nose and you’ll feel it.

  163. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 3:11 pm

    I know.
    Higher frequency has more energy, can break bonds.

    UVA may be in the lower energy state but it is not benign by any means.

    It’s also being exposed to a part of the body that usually receives almost zero UV radiation as compared to skin.

    But we do radiate cancers, and people do survive that.

    I wouldn’t want my blood beamed with UV light unless I was dying. And if that’s the case, shoot me up with bleach if you have nothing left in the magazine.

    Or just a wack dose of fentanyl.

  164. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 3:14 pm

    Grim,
    You need to get some PhD to create a study to see if that would work. Get a few million in government funding and a group of volunteers.

    Let me know, I’ll sign up. I’ll bring some ladies from work, they may not burn your nostrils but they will fry your retinas.

  165. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 3:16 pm

    If anyone is considering nuking your blood with UV light, you are most likely already about to see that other light, you know, the one you are supposed to start walking towards.

  166. BRT says:
    January 2, 2022 at 3:58 pm

    There’s a big difference between treating your blood with UV and treating your body with UV.

  167. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 4:22 pm

    In a few years will be the new Mr Six from Six Flags.

    https://bit.ly/3eFwGM9

  168. Libturd says:
    January 2, 2022 at 5:46 pm

    “failed shots” – the type of misinformation spread by those who stupidly and selfishly follow the bleach suggester. For those who believe in community over personal rights, these failed shots have saved over one million lives. How?

    The Unvaccinated are 14 Times More Likely to Die From COVID. Go walk off the plank with the idiots who post misinformation here. The less of you that survive this, the better.

    You can vote for whomever you like and I won’t hold it against you. That’s democracy. Intentionally spreading misinformation? Well that makes you a major asshole in my book.

  169. Old realtor says:
    January 2, 2022 at 6:04 pm

    Go Darwin!

  170. Libturd says:
    January 2, 2022 at 6:28 pm

    Remember,

    If everyone got vaccinated and boosted. We MIGHT not be where we are today.

  171. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 6:42 pm

    Lib – if they used a little more than geriatric speed and completed the clinical trial for the multivalent vaccines (like the flu you get 4 variants in every shot) we could have deployed it and saved allot of people.

  172. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 7:08 pm

    Climb, baby, climb.

    Many home insurance premiums are rising faster than inflation.

    “I noticed that our mortgage had gone up $100 on a $1,250 mortgage,” he said. “So, I looked into it. First, I called the mortgage company and they said, ‘It’s costing a lot more to insure your house. Talk to [the insurance company].’ So then I called USAA and said, ‘What’s going on?’”

  173. Libturd says:
    January 2, 2022 at 7:10 pm

    I agree. We did lots of things poorly. Both parties. The cost of building a space program around eradicating the world of covid would most likely have been cheaper than these half-assed piecemeal attempts that continue to damage the economy, cause inflation and then there are all of the stimulus payments and healthcare bills to pay.

  174. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 7:16 pm

    Neighbors across the street just texted us whole family has covid and they are fully vaxxed and boosted. I will bet $1 the dad will go to work anyway. He is one of those folks….

  175. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 8:07 pm

    I am surprised the NJ state troopers did not give Antonio Brown a ride to the airport.

  176. The Great Pumpkin says:
    January 2, 2022 at 8:12 pm

    Healthcare costs proves private does it better when it comes to corruption. Again, you have to have a system that checks and balances itself.

  177. The Great Pumpkin says:
    January 2, 2022 at 8:12 pm

    In a web3 financial crisis, is the idea that governments/central banks would step in to bail it out, or is the view that having hard-coded rules is superior to governments and central banks arbitrarily changing the rules?

  178. Phoenix says:
    January 2, 2022 at 8:18 pm

    He is one of those folks….

    One that has bills to pay?

    One that has a nagging wife that will call him lazy if he takes a day off ( I had one of those)…

  179. Grim says:
    January 2, 2022 at 8:25 pm

    What’s the top end estimate for January? Will we see a 40k or 50k day?

    IMHO, peak comes in 2 weeks.

  180. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 8:51 pm

    Who the F knows anymore, people must be lying about being vaccinated. Neighbors husband was sick for the last six days now wife and kids have it, she has shortness of breath too, they both claim triple vaccinated. I have my doubts however, they own a gym and work out all the time. Guy has a pullup bar in his back yard too….

  181. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 8:59 pm

    Grim 50k day that would be hundreds of deaths a day in NJ, even if it supposedly less deadly by about 2/3rds.

  182. BRT says:
    January 2, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    Omicron evades the vax very effectively. It even evades natural immunity in many cases.

  183. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 9:24 pm

    BRT – It evades political bullshit too. Where did it come from exactly?

  186. Boomer Remover says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:34 pm

    I laugh every time I think about the first days of the pandemic, back when I threw a $30 tip at a distance the FreshDirect guy thinking “welp, this poor guy is dead man walking!” when there was so very little circulating virus… fast forward to now when I respond in the affirmative to birthday invites at indoor ball pit play centers. What a wild exercise in risk perception and tolerance!

    All this is getting old though, I hope we get something new in 22 to keep us busy.

  187. Juice Box says:
    January 2, 2022 at 10:41 pm

    BRT – good stuff thanks. Actually my old man who passed away 21 years ago this week loved horse racing in Ireland, not sure where that was but the announcer was surely Irish. Good memories are always the best, not great ones per say jus the memorable good ones.

  188. Hold my beer says:
    January 2, 2022 at 11:25 pm

    Don’t trust anybody. A karen went to a card game knowing she had Covid. Passed it to her 82 year old friend who had survived blood cancer.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10363367/Woman-82-dies-catching-COVID-friend-hid-infection-attend-card-game.html#article-10363367

  189. Juice Box says:
    January 3, 2022 at 7:24 am

    Skool called a snow day, not even a dusting yet seems that everyone is afraid of Rona…

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