From the Star Ledger:
Most residents say N.J. is a good place to live, but a third want to leave, poll shows
The majority of New Jerseyans like living here, but more than a third say they’d like to move out, a new poll has found.
Nearly 6 in 10 adult residents say the Garden State is an “excellent” (14%) or “good” (44%) place to live, according to the Rutgers-Eagleton Poll released Thursday morning, while 28% say it’s “only fair” and 14% say it’s “poor.”
Meanwhile, half of residents say they would move out of their current neighborhood if they could — including a record 36% who say they would move to another state.
“New Jerseyans’ views on the Garden State as a place to live have remained stable the past several years but over the decades have gradually become less positive,” said Ashley Koning, director the Eagleton Center for Public Interest Polling at Rutgers University and an assistant research professor at the school.
Koning said three-quarters of the state called New Jersey an excellent or good place to live in the mid-1990s and early 2000s while 80% said the same in the mid- to late 1980s.
Results from this poll have been released intermittently in recent weeks. Fifty-two percent of adult residents said New Jersey is on the wrong track, while 38% say it’s headed in the right direction, according to results released Monday.
Thursday’s results show Democrats are happier in New Jersey than their counterparts, with 74% saying the state is excellent or good, compared to 54% of independents and 47% of Republicans.
South Jersey residents (50%), those in the lowest income bracket (52%) and those with a high school education or less are the only other groups where more than half rate the state negatively.
Forty-two percent overall would continuing living where they are if they had the chance to move. Of the half that would move out of their current neighborhood, 3% would move within the same town, 13% would move to another town, and 36% say they would get out of state.
“New Jerseyans’ desire to move has increased by double digits over the last decade,” Koning said. “These latest numbers set an all-time high in the poll’s history of asking this question for those who want to move out of state and an all-time low for those who want to stay.”
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Driving through Scranton yesterday and see that they named the entrance road off I-81 the “President Joseph R. Biden Jr. Expressway”.
Truly one of the most majestic and scenic boulevards in North America.
Ten sold off and touched 241.9 before bouncing a bit. Hard to believe we were in the 160’s not that long ago.
Kind of ridiculously oversold, but it is what it is.
Let’s see how people react.
Scrotum, PA.
The real Dunder Mifflin about a mile off the 405 in the Valley.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/13927+Saticoy+St,+Panorama+City,+CA+91402/@34.2103971,-118.436406,3a,75y,2.07h,87.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sf9LSErDEcvBFmpcPzpi4cA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c296d9034017e5:0x35bda522cf252b11!8m2!3d34.2109259!4d-118.4364813
From the first time I ever drove out of the tri-state area on that route that’s all I saw on that sign lol.
Sugartitties, NY…if we’re going full on college frosh :)
From the first time I ever drove out of the tri-state area on that route that’s all I saw on that sign lol.
Sugart1tties, NY…if we’re going full on college frosh :)
chi, end of month, end of quarter?
Wondering – can Ukraine use Stingers to hit ships? Certainly seems plausible.
North Korea fired a new type of ICBM today first time since 2017. Seems Kim Jong-un feels he can get away with it now. The ICMB went up into outer space 3,850 miles before crashing down north of Japan, it can without a doubt reach the USA now.
My wife’s uncle before retiring was fitting Japanese warships with the Aegis system. They had built up a fleet of 8 ships now to intercept missiles from North Korea
The USA has a fleet of about 33 Aegis ships. These are the only missiles on ships capable of intercepting an ICBM. Japan has been at it for 20 years now beefing up their defensive capabilities with Aegis ships and land based Patriot interceptors, specifically due to the North Korean threat.
If anyone is interested about what would happen if there was an ICMB launch. We could maybe take out the first few but after that they would be raining down everywhere.
https://www.mod.go.jp/en/2021/03/09/images/missile_defense_img17.png
Feels a little early for that.
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leftwing says:
March 24, 2022 at 8:59 am
chi, end of month, end of quarter?
“New jobless claims fall to 187,000, setting more than 5-decade low”
They should rename area Scranton-Wilkes Biden for greatest economy in the history of mankind.
Or Javelins for that matter, they seem ideal for punching a hole in the side of a ship at the waterline.
Stinger has a tiny warhead of 1 kilo, it would need to be around 500 kilos to blow up a large ship.
The Ukrainians developed their own truck launched anti-ship missile, the “Neptune”, it has apparently been used, and is keeping the Russians from invading Odessa from the sea.
https://twitter.com/mhmck/status/1498064946319536132
FYI – Ukraine blew up one Russian ship today, and damaged two others.
Javelin is better 8.4 kg warhead, yes hole but sink a 5,000 ton ship, no chance.
The city of Odessa has one million citizens and are backed up by the Ukrainian Army’s 28th Mechanized Brigade. That brigade is placing their tanks and artillery to defend beachheads against the Russians. The ships have not attempted to land they are afraid it seems.
The citizens are making sandbags to Bon Jovi’s music. Here is a tweet he sent about it.
https://twitter.com/BonJovi/status/1506407250394435588?cxt=HHwWiMCq7bba6ucpAAAA
Oh for sure, the landing craft would get picked off like nothing at this point.
Big boom on the supply ship too, Berdyansk on the Sea of Azov is fully under Russian control, it might have been self sabotage?
Here is the ship and the port.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1505772419906211840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1505772419906211840%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fworld-europe-60859337
Blowing up ships at dock is a smart move if it was done by the Ukrainians – eliminates the ability for other ships to come in and offload. Without access to cranes, you aren’t offloading anything but people.
They got it good – video:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60859384
What is interesting too is the Ukrainians have not fired off their entire arsenal of Neptune missiles at the landing fleet waiting off the coast, perhaps they are waiting for more ships to arrive so they can sink them all?
There was a large amount of Russian ships spotted by the Japanese taking equipment from the pacific side the long way around to the Black Sea etc. I doubt the Egyptians would stop those ships from using the Suez or Turkey stop them in the Bosporus strait but the intel has to be passed on as to when they will arrive.
The Ukrainian special forces were even in Russia blowing up train trestles to stop the Russian supplies from reaching the front lines, and the Belarusian railway workers recently carried out the “largest act of sabotage” on train lines leading into Ukraine.
Starve the troops of food, fuel and ammo etc. It just might work.
That’s all you need to know. Says it all…
“Thursday’s results show Democrats are happier in New Jersey than their counterparts, with 74% saying the state is excellent or good, compared to 54% of independents and 47% of Republicans.
South Jersey residents (50%), those in the lowest income bracket (52%) and those with a high school education or less are the only other groups where more than half rate the state negatively.”
North Korea fired a new type of ICBM today first time since 2017. Seems Kim Jong-un feels he can get away with it now. The ICMB went up into outer space 3,850 miles before crashing down north of Japan, it can without a doubt reach the USA now.
My wife’s uncle before retiring was fitting Japanese warships with the Aegis system. They had built up a fleet of 8 ships now to intercept missiles from North Korea.
The USA has a fleet of about 33 Aegis ships. These are the only missiles on ships capable of intercepting an ICBM. Japan has been at it for 20 years now beefing up their defensive capabilities with Aegis ships and land based Patriot interceptors, specifically due to the North Korean threat.
If anyone is interested about what would happen if there was an ICMB launch. We could maybe take out the first few but after that they would be raining down everywhere, so mutual assured destruction will happen.
The Japanese were kind enough to document it for us.
https://tinyurl.com/v5hrrz9f
Hypersonic is going to accelerate the development of interception technologies.
Lasers, pulsed energy weapons, satellite based interceptors (it’ll happen, watch), ultra-hypersonic interceptor missiles (if you can make a missile that fast, you can make an interceptor even faster), railguns, etc. Keep in mind one thing, the faster it goes, the easier it is to destroy by simply disturbing it. Maybe we’ll see the nuke tipped Nike return.
Let’s Go Brandon, indeed!
New weekly jobless claims hit the lowest level since 1969
Continuing claims also fell further to reach 1.35 million — the least since January 1970
1970! What an accomplishment.
Annoying?
In the movie in my head this is how I imagine Ex spends his time in his man cave
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5uwBsDkiUqg&t=46s
Does not need to be hypersonic, that is just a neat toy with a short range at this point. The real danger has always been the ICMB with a MIRV a payload of 12 nukes. They use only Newtonian physics to calculate rocket trajectories, they don’t dodge anything and don’t need to because a hundred missiles is 1200 nuclear war heads. The idea that we can stop thousands of fix foot long war heads traveling at orbital speeds of 5 miles per second is a long way off. BTW they have lots and lots of decoys too. There would be a bullet storm of MIRVs if it ever came too it. BTW GW Bush in 2001 right after 9/11 pulled the USA out of the AMB treaty Carter signed back the 1970s. Most people thought it was a bad idea. What have we done in 20 years? Take a look at the presentation from Japan linked above. We don’t have anywhere near the capability to stop thousands of warheads. Mutually assured destruction and Non-proliferation at ANY COST is the only way to go, disarmament would be preferable but considering what just happed to Ukraine nobody is going to give up their nukes if they ever get them.
New weekly jobless claims hit the lowest level since 1969.
Joe.. Joe! JOE!! Wake up!! We may be able to get your approval up to 37%!
Florida becomes the first state to mandate students pass a financial literacy course in order to graduate high school.
Bystander says:
March 24, 2022 at 9:16 am
“…greatest economy in the history of mankind.”
Measured by the price of gasoline — the higher, the better, right?
Man oh man the Democrats must really really want to get rid of Kamala for the 2024 election.
“Vice President Kamala Harris felt slighted by White House aides not standing when she entered into a room, part of a pattern of “perceived snubs” that the former senator was “fixated” on, a forthcoming book by the New York Times correspondents Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns reportedly says.”
In the book, “This Will Not Pass: Trump, Biden, and the Battle for America’s Future,” set to be released in May, Martin and Burns describe an increasingly uneasy relationship between Harris’ staff and President Joe Biden’s West Wing. Politico’s West Wing Playbook published excerpts from it on Tuesday.
“Some of Harris’s advisers believed the president’s almost entirely white inner circle did not show the vice president the respect she deserved,” Martin and Burns wrote, according to Politico. “Harris worried that Biden’s staff looked down on her; she fixated on real and perceived snubs in ways the West Wing found tedious.”
According to Politico, the book says Harris had her chief of staff, Tina Flournoy, speak with Anita Dunn, a senior advisor to Biden, about her discontent with White House staffers not standing when she entered rooms as they did with the president.”
“Vice President Kamala Harris felt slighted by White House aides not standing when she entered into a room…”
Next time you say muh name, put some respek on it.
It’s wishful thinking that this will help people. Most people are their own worst enemy, they will still f/k it up, and blame someone else.
3b says:
March 24, 2022 at 10:16 am
Florida becomes the first state to mandate students pass a financial literacy course in order to graduate high school.
Do they really think this land is worth $6.5m? Because the house is obviously a teardown. Aerial photos show what the neighbors have done with long but narrow properties.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5056-Gulf-of-Mexico-Dr_Longboat-Key_FL_34228_M54391-10537
Ed,
Yoda was old and could not move very fast but he could still lift X-wing out of the swamp.
To the other dope, that is what I was told. When oil was $80/barrel in Q4 2018, I was told it was bc a strong economy so let’s stick to that logic. Oh wait, the Dow fell off a cliff in Q4 2018. Thanks god that guy is gone.
There’s even a place for Cathie’s investors in town:
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/3710-Gulf-of-Mexico-Dr-Lot-B13_Longboat-Key_FL_34228_M54124-98099
That’s simply insane. Incredible how the rich boomers all drove up the Florida coastline. I just wonder who is going to be able to afford this when they leave. Maybe pass it on to kids. If kids try to unload in the future, will crash that market.
No One says:
March 24, 2022 at 10:48 am
Do they really think this land is worth $6.5m? Because the house is obviously a teardown. Aerial photos show what the neighbors have done with long but narrow properties.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5056-Gulf-of-Mexico-Dr_Longboat-Key_FL_34228_M54391-10537
Pumps: If it helps even a handful then it’s a good thing, certainly better then some fluff subject.
That’s insane to pay this much for this pos. LOL….this does look like a real florida house outside the rich areas….good ol trailer parks.
No One says:
March 24, 2022 at 10:51 am
There’s even a place for Cathie’s investors in town:
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/3710-Gulf-of-Mexico-Dr-Lot-B13_Longboat-Key_FL_34228_M54124-98099
Let’s go back to this foreign policy expertise
Kid Rock said that former President Donald Trump sought his advice on drafts of tweets and international policy while in office, saying Trump asked the singer “What do you think we should do about North Korea?”
“We were looking at maps and shit, and I’m like, you know, ‘am I supposed to be, like, in on this shit?'” Rock, who met the former president through a meeting arranged by Sarah Palin, told Carlson. “Like I make dirty records sometimes. What the fuck am I doing here?”
Fast/ Juice: Harris wants respect simply because she is the VP?? She should conduct herself like she is one, and prepare for topics she is going to speak about. Apparently, she refuses to take any advice from any of her advisors in various subject areas. It appears she just wings it. Her passage of time comments the other day in LA was just one more embarrassment.
If you payed attention in school and did what you are supposed to, financial literacy is common sense. If you are able to do math and critically think, you don’t need to take a course in financial literacy.
Being financially literate is so basic, but that goes to show how many people don’t take advantage of their free public education in our country.
3b says:
March 24, 2022 at 10:55 am
Pumps: If it helps even a handful then it’s a good thing, certainly better then some fluff subject.
So, this woman wants a seat on the Supreme Court but can’t define what a woman is and has no OPINION on when life begins. Keep in mind, it wasn’t asked when life begins for a human, just when life begins; a generalized statement. She could have said life begins for a frog at… so and so… or life begins for a plant at… such and such time. Aside from politics, does that not raise a red flag? The woman is saying she has trouble with basic concepts:
https://tinyurl.com/2p82zye7
Ahh, Blumpy the moronic is back. Kudos to FL for this. Every school should teach this, along with full year on civics. 11 states still have no requirement. 30 have 1/2 year. As Carlin said, corps and politicians don’t want a population of people with ability for critical thinking.
She’s more qualified than Amy Coney Barrett, who was not asked any of those things. Republicans are embarrassing themselves with this show. I couldn’t at all understand where Graham was going with his questioning, but I don’t think he even knew. Rate your religion on a scale of 1-10? Let’s deep dive into settled case law? I mean, she said straight up that Heller was precedential – which probably made democrats start to question this pick.
She’s a straight shooter. There are so many reasons she’s a great pick.
After Republicans have packed the court for 35 years with Catholic religious zealots who only “life begins at conception”, Jackson can say anything.
A lot of those people the elixirs look down on have a more more humanity than the political class. To the insiders and collaborators death is just the cost of doing business.
Let’s recap Ukraine again.
“We” help flip the government from pro Russia to pro NATO. The Bidens and other connected parties rob the country blind.
Putin gets an excuse to wage war and grab territory for mother Russia. We send in bombs and guns to escalate the conflict.
Massive inflation, shortages and tear of political and economic upheaval result. World community is stuck managing a humanitarian crisis and feeding clothing millions of displaced.
MAGA2024
Pumps: I can’t believe you as a teacher just made that comment. What does math and critical thinking have to do with financial literacy? Does math discuss what is credit, how interest is calculated, savings, checking accounts , how to write a check, compound interest, minimum payments on a credit card, what is a 401k, taxes . These are all areas that a financial literacy course could teach to students who may not be taught these skills at home.
When one of my kids was a senior in high school, the district was on an art kick and students were required to take an art class to graduate. Absolutely moronic. A financial literacy course is an excellent idea and I congratulate Florida and the other states who have implemented this requirement.
Yea, people go into debt because they were not taught how to be financially literate. Tell me another one. Ask trump how that worked out. Greed and bad choices are the problem, not that they don’t understand how to handle money.
Is our country in debt because they are not financially literate? Asking for a friend.
Bystander says:
March 24, 2022 at 11:09 am
Ahh, Blumpy the moronic is back. Kudos to FL for this. Every school should teach this, along with full year on civics. 11 states still have no requirement. 30 have 1/2 year. As Carlin said, corps and politicians don’t want a population of people with ability for critical thinking.
Whoever said that shrewdest move would have been to nominate Kamala for the Supreme Court was on to something. Now we’ve got her clone in the court but we’re stuck with this simpleton in office.
Goat dope does not even know new slogan “Make American Great Again, Again”..MAGAA. Sounds like something Melanoma does after her breakfast to keep trophy figure.
Kamala would have buckled in the first hour of this questioning, no doubt.
But you sound like a racist fuck for saying it’s her clone, just because she’s black and a woman.
And, she is so far from being any kind of activist jurist, that I will guarantee that the democrats are going to be disappointed.
So, people purposely make bad financial choices for fun, dingbat?
Pumps: You are doubling down in stupidity again , what does Trump
Have to do with the topic of financial literacy? This has been an issue for years. Tracking financial literacy skills is something I would think all could agree on. And it might only benefit some , but that’s still a positive, and I would argue certainly more useful to students then what you teach.
If you took advantage of your education, this stuff you wrote about below is common sense.
I remember a stock advisor coming to my class when we were in middle school and high school to teach us about the power of compounding. How many of the students actually followed through?
3b says:
March 24, 2022 at 11:20 am
Pumps: I can’t believe you as a teacher just made that comment. What does math and critical thinking have to do with financial literacy? Does math discuss what is credit, how interest is calculated, savings, checking accounts , how to write a check, compound interest, minimum payments on a credit card, what is a 401k, taxes .
I bought an investment property basically as a teenager. Why?
Now why didn’t 99% of my friends and classmates do the same? They all came from richer households than me. So their parents were more financially literate than mine. So what is the problem? It’s that they do not want to sacrifice and they buy more than they can afford. So they have nothing left for investing.
Bystander says:
March 24, 2022 at 11:27 am
So, people purposely make bad financial choices for fun, dingbat?
Republicans are embarrassing themselves with this show.
Sure, they’re embarrassing themselves. I mean, let’s be honest, it’s not like they’re accusing the candidate of gang r.ape, elicit drunken behavior, parading a sniveling person in front of them who can’t recall a thing and 37 media outlets live with wall-to-wall coverage. Right?
Oh, and Coney-Barrett was asked if she’s ever committed or accused of sexual assault, was chastised for saying “same s.ex” couples and a few other reprimands. Please.
I think Jackson is handling herself well and is certainly head and shoulders above Harris. What happened to the Republicans who said she would not be interrogated like Republican nominees have been. Republicans are embarrassing themselves with this line of questioning. Jackson appears calm and collective and is certainly as qualified as any of the other recent justices. She should be approved and the Republicans should move on.
Has any Democratic Supreme Court appointee turned out to be less liberal than expected over the past 50 years? Anyway, this lady is going to get appointed so the Republicans may as well lie back and enjoy it. Her cutting back the jail sentences of a few internet pedo guys isn’t going to sink her ship. I happened to see her on TV on PBS for 10 minutes and there were tears of joy coupled with laughter. I’m not sure what deep thoughts she has about the constitution but they’ve definitely established that she’s a black woman who is a lawyer, which was the stated first-cut requirement for the job.
I wonder if she and Thomas will ever connect intellectually.
Biden may get another pick with Thomas being hospitalized.
Oh please, identity politics is racism. Both Kamala and her are under qualified and nominated Because of their skin color. Complain to Biden and the left for racializing everything.
“I remember a stock advisor coming to my class when we were in middle school and high school to teach us about the power of compounding.”
Was she a pretty brunette in mid-30s who went by name of Cathie?
Hubba, hubba..I would be buying too. Not so much now
https://i.redd.it/buparlgxq2181.jpg
If there was a financial literacy mandate in NJ the class would go something like this:
“Borrow money to buy your nana’s house at a low price, then gauge the welfare mammas who want to live there with high rent. Also marry a spouse who is smarter and makes more money than you. And get a job with the government-sponsored pension to fund your retirement. Duh. It’s just common sense. Bada bing, bada boom. Now go screw around in the back of the class, and don’t bother me, I’ve got some urgent business to attend to on my computer for the next 40 minutes.”
Again, forget politics, race, weight, size, shape, favorite ice cream, etc. etc. etc… if i ask you when life begins and you have no OPINION nor no OPINION on what is the difference between a man and a woman, that fucking irks me. Just be fucking honest. Go ahead and say it… a man can have a c0ck or a p.ussy and life begins when YOU decide it begins. Please stop with the “Republicans are embarrassing themselves” thing. I have no hardcore allegiance to the right, just that the sensible ones get it and the left most certainly doesn’t.
“I remember a stock advisor coming to my class when we were in middle school and high school to teach us about the power of compounding.”
Was she a pretty brunette in mid-30s who went by name of Cathie?
Dam..I would be trading in my baseball cards and buying too. Not so much now.
https://ibb.co/S5mqgFd
Middle school? How about a refresher junior year in HS when you are about to fork over 200K for a degree.
Pumps: Don’t be so obstinate. If you took advantage of your education this stuff is common sense? How can it be common sense if they be subject matter is not taught in the first place?
I know Ivy League graduates hugely successful, some brilliant, and they don’t have a clue about basic everyday financial matters.
Fast: What is the point of asking these questions in the first place, that’s why I say they are embarrassing themselves. Do we need to have even more divisiveness in this country then we already have?
Bystander says:
March 24, 2022 at 10:48 am
“To the other dope, that is what I was told. When oil was $80/barrel…”
Bi votes for SlowJoe and Karmella and calls others dopes — now that’s funny. Thanks to Joe, and the dopes that voted for him, oil is more likely to hit $180 before it hits $80 again — unless Joe’s begging for help from Iran and Venezuela is successful.
But on another note of interest to Bi, it looks like we’re going to be taking in all of Ukraine’s LGBT+ refugees; something for you to keep an eye on…
Relevant questions related to case law would be appropriate. The embarrassing part for the Republicans is their questions had no relevance or bearing on the proceedings.
No allegiance to the right? Amazing how you have no perspective on yourself.
Fast Eddie says:
March 24, 2022 at 11:56 am
Again, forget politics, race, weight, size, shape, favorite ice cream, etc. etc. etc… if i ask you when life begins and you have no OPINION nor no OPINION on what is the difference between a man and a woman, that fucking irks me. Just be fucking honest. Go ahead and say it… a man can have a c0ck or a p.ussy and life begins when YOU decide it begins. Please stop with the “Republicans are embarrassing themselves” thing. I have no hardcore allegiance to the right, just that the sensible ones get it and the left most certainly doesn’t.
The End Is Nigh (Phoenix Pura Vida Edition):
https://nypost.com/2022/03/24/man-stuck-in-costa-rica-after-flesh-eating-bug-infected-genitals/
Went there to what to get his nuts what snipped? They can’t do that in England?
Relevant questions related to case law would be appropriate.
Tell that to the crowd who flayed Kavanaugh publicly.
Dam..I would be trading in my baseball cards and buying too. Not so much now.
I remember learning compounding and selling all my old collectable MTG cards from high school in my 20s to get my wealth to compound. If I never sold a single card, I’d probably be a millionaire right now.
Eddie,
Surely you understand the vast difference in the 2 hearings. If I really need to explain than you are not looking past the end of your nose.
You act like I was gifted a house. Since Grim knows my grandmother, he clearly knows this is not the case. You can think what you want, though, if it makes you feel better. Just remember, smart women don’t go for losers. If I had nothing to bring the table, and was just some avj joe, I would have no chance. Facts.
At the end of the day, your paragraph below shows that I made some pretty damn good choices in life. Not bad for someone you folks think is the village idiot.
No One says:
March 24, 2022 at 11:54 am
If there was a financial literacy mandate in NJ the class would go something like this:
“Borrow money to buy your nana’s house at a low price, then gauge the welfare mammas who want to live there with high rent. Also marry a spouse who is smarter and makes more money than you. And get a job with the government-sponsored pension to fund your retirement. Duh. It’s just common sense. Bada bing, bada boom. Now go screw around in the back of the class, and don’t bother me, I’ve got some urgent business to attend to on my computer for the next 40 minutes.”
Remember, some of you would have never bought a house in 1999. So many adults told me I was making a mistake, don’t buy. Yea, how that work out. Glad I didn’t listen to the .com pumpers. Love me some contrarian investments.
If you are an ivy league graduate and don’t understand basic finance, something is wrong. Like I said, if you learn how to read, write, and do math at a higher level…there is no one to blame for making bad financial decisions except yourself.
At the end of the day, there are money makers and money spenders. Always has been, always will be.
3b says:
March 24, 2022 at 11:59 am
Pumps: Don’t be so obstinate. If you took advantage of your education this stuff is common sense? How can it be common sense if they be subject matter is not taught in the first place?
I know Ivy League graduates hugely successful, some brilliant, and they don’t have a clue about basic everyday financial matters.
Pumps: What does any of this mean as far as teaching financial literacy in public schools? As for your comment on you not be an average Joe, a little humility and of course self awareness might be in order on your part.
Goat. You are clearly a racist. I watched about ten minutes of the Supreme Court show. I watched the part where Cruz put up an easel and paraded a visual aid of the child porn surfers she released early. Yes, a complete embarrassment. And that’s the best ANYONE there can seem to do. But do you know what you found that made her unqualified? The same thing that every devout Trump ass licker finds attractive about Trump’s populist politicking. She has two faults. She is black and she is a woman. Who was the last woman a Republican appointed to the supreme court? I would ask who was the last black person appointed, but apparently, he was chosen for much less than the color of his skin. He was chosen because he was one of the tiny fraction of black conservatives that exist. I’m certain he was the best black person qualified for the job at the time.
Forget lawyering. If I had the option to choose who should raise my kid, I would choose Jackson over Kav any day of the week.
Not only is she qualified, she’s a fantastic pick. To argue otherwise, with absolute nothing to back up your argument? Well that kind of makes you a racist or a misogynist. Or likely in your case, both.
I felt bad for Kavanaugh. I feel absolutely embarrassed for Jackson. You should too. But you don’t. Hmmmm.
As to financial education in schools? It’s clear Pumps never had one and really could have used one. Not everyone has a wealthy grandmother to build a nest egg from.
Don’t worry Chi, I don’t plan on trying to surgically elongate my member when I’m down there in a couple of weeks.
Pumps: So if you can read write etc comment is what you believe is all you need for financial literacy, then your position can be eliminated too. What purpose does a history teacher serve? Once someone can read , they can read all the history they want, and draw their own conclusion. We can save lots of salaries and pensions by eliminating history teachers.
I just don’t see how you can waste a whole entire year learning about basic financial literacy when you can be using that precious time to improve their weak skills in math and reading. Most of those kids will not get anything from that course. You are out of touch with the avg teenager.
3b says:
March 24, 2022 at 12:59 pm
Pumps: What does any of this mean as far as teaching financial literacy in public schools? As for your comment on you not be an average Joe, a little humility and of course self awareness might be in order on your part.
3b,
Yes, let’s eliminate history. That has to be one of the dumbest things you have ever said. SMH.
If you don’t learn about interest and compounding in math, wtf are you doing? That’s on the student.
and her are under qualified and nominated Because of their skin color.
Justice Barrett was selected because she clerked for the Justice she was replacing, Scalia.
Judge Jackson was nominated because she clerked for the Justice she was replacing, Breyer.
In both cases, this was an important factor, and in both cases, this should eliminate all discussion about qualification.
Maybe it’s just me, I just think if you do what you are supposed to do in school…financial literacy is common sense. Maybe I’m dead wrong, and it needs to be taught…
I just think it’s rubbish when people take the position that people are in debt, or poor, because they didn’t learn about financial literacy.
Surely you understand the vast difference in the 2 hearings.
Oh indeed! I certainly do!
Pumps: Do they teach compounding and interest in math?? My comment on eliminating history teacher is stupid but it’s based on your own rationale , can you not connect the two?? Do we need 8 or 9 years of history teaching but one year of financial literacy is not needed?
Libturd says:
March 24, 2022 at 1:01 pm
“I feel absolutely embarrassed for Jackson.”
Full disclosure — I haven’t been watching the confirmation hearings; just reading the nightly summaries of the day’s proceedings. But given that, what are people’s objections to the Rep’s questioning Jackson about her record of leniency towards criminals convicted of child p0rn0graphy offenses? Isn’t that exactly what Senators are supposed to do in their role of providing advice and consent — question a nominees judicial record — as opposed to say, turning the hearings into a kangaroo court based on one dingbat’s accusation that a nominee may have observed a sexual assault when he was 15?
Those of you who are making Kavanaugh comparisons, there were accusations and witnesses. Did you believe these witnesses shouldn’t have been permitted to appear and that the accusations shouldn’t have been investigated? All of the questions you find offensive are related to that investigation.
There were no character accusations against Jackson. And you clearly do not understand the nature of the questions that are appropriate for a nominee for this position to answer.
GOAT isn’t a rac1st, (S)he just has a very incisive manner in getting the point across that I’ve failed to see anyone make here on the left. Most of your arguments are opiniated talking points and nothing more. Anytime the hair on the back of you democrats stands up, the return is always Trump, mis0gynist, rac1st, xeno, hom0 and the rich, in some form or another. It angers you leftist believers because GOAT is striking a real deep fucking nerve and it fucking stings.
You have lost what little mind you had.
No one can see inside anyone’s soul. We can only see what people show us. On that basis you and GOAT are both racists. Eddie, every time you are confronted with such an accusation you wheel out your story about your father’s business and his kindness to the minority kids in the neighborhood. We have all heard it. Is there any other reason to believe you are not what you appear to be?
Fast Eddie says:
March 24, 2022 at 1:28 pm
GOAT isn’t a rac1st, (S)he just has a very incisive manner in getting the point across that I’ve failed to see anyone make here on the left. Most of your arguments are opiniated talking points and nothing more. Anytime the hair on the back of you democrats stands up, the return is always Trump, mis0gynist, rac1st, xeno, hom0 and the rich, in some form or another. It angers you leftist believers because GOAT is striking a real deep fucking nerve and it fucking stings.
How often do we think pumpkin tells random strangers that he bought a house at 19?
Of course, he leaves out the pertinent details that there was a huge discount and he couldn’t do jack sh!t on his own without co-signers. Either way, it’s so sad. I can picture him years from now with dementia telling this story four times a day to the same people over and over. II can also picture him with dementia right now.
At any given time, there are hundreds of judges and other lawyers who are well qualified to sit on the supreme court.
Picking one out of those hundreds is purely politics- and it always has been.
Old realtor says:
March 24, 2022 at 1:27 pm
“Those of you who are making Kavanaugh comparisons, there were accusations and witnesses.”
There were exactly ZERO corroborating witnesses. It was an accusation by one unstable woman, Christine Blasey Ford, about an event that allegedly occurred 30+ years earlier when the nominee was in high school — turned into a smear by the Dem’s and their media lackey’s. It was the exact opposite of the focus on the nominee’s judicial record that the Rep’s are conducting now. Someone tell me if I’m missing something by not having seen the hearings — are the Rep’s not focusing on her judicial record; are they simply smearing her with innuendo and unsubstantiated accusations?
Barrett replaced Ginsburg. She was also first in her class and widely published.
I have no bone to pick with this lady personally except the fact that she’s not going to be able to escape the suspicion that she was selected for her skin color. And she did herself no favors by refusing to simple questions. That’s not behaving apolitically, that’s self censoring. Best of luck to her.
What was the huge discount? The discount was buying at the right time when no one wanted to touch real estate. Keep on hating.
PumpkinFace says:
March 24, 2022 at 1:40 pm
How often do we think pumpkin tells random strangers that he bought a house at 19?
Of course, he leaves out the pertinent details that there was a huge discount and he couldn’t do jack sh!t on his own without co-signers. Either way, it’s so sad. I can picture him years from now with dementia telling this story four times a day to the same people over and over. II can also picture him with dementia right now.
There is one accusation and it doesn’t even stick to the wall. Yet she is supposedly unqualified?
Again, WHY IS SHE UNQUALIFIED?
Both sides are putting on a show. Enough already. Like I said the other day. Count the senate. If they can’t deny confirmation, just vote. These hearings are pathetic.
Maybe if you took a financial literacy course you’d understand 20% is a large discount.
And what f/ing difference does it make…I would have taken out a loan for 20% more. Give it a rest. I’m sorry I didn’t pay top dollar, but in the end, what difference does it make. I had to get market comps when buying. Yes, I had to get market comps when from buying from my grandma. Tell me again how it was given to me.
PumpinFace says:
March 24, 2022 at 1:53 pm
Maybe if you took a financial literacy course you’d understand 20% is a large discount.
If you point out the fact that using skin color for a qualifier is racist you’ll be accused of racism yourself. Wrap it up in sanctimonious language and it’s ok. So bizarre.
The left has to resort to censorship in so many cases because they can’t defend their behavior in a coherent way. When all else fails play the R card.
What matters, is I bought at a very young age. I bought at the complete bottom when no one wanted to touch real estate. The timing was lucky and that’s what matters. You guys are such haters. I didn’t know one other teenager buying at that age. They were all partying away in college while I worked at the post office and made something happen at a very young age where most people are still getting their ass wiped for them. I also payed for my own college. So suck it, with the 20% discount. I had to pay for college while my siblings didn’t. Go suck it.
On that basis you and GOAT are both racists.
And right on queue, one of the *ist words is presented.
“Who was the last woman a Republican appointed to the supreme court?”
Amy Coney Barrett in 2020. They also appointed the first woman Supreme court justice in 1981.
My memory of the big-time politicization of Supreme Court confirmation process started with Bork. Absolutely extremely qualified, but philosophically quite the opposite of what Democrats wanted, so they turned that process into a political circus, crushed him, and pretty much every subsequent nominee who faced a Senate controlled by the president’s opposing party has also faced a similar circus (whether Dem or Repub). When the president’s own party controls the senate, the circus gets smaller, and is generally more for scoring some political points by the performers, because they ultimately know how it’s going to end unless the nominee makes a big mistake.
Try to remain calm and realize your self-worth and self-esteem shouldn’t be wrapped up in what strangers think of your very overrated past real estate purchase. By the way, you should have bought in 1994 when prices were even lower. That’s what really smart people did.
“Yes, let’s eliminate history. That has to be one of the dumbest things you have ever said. SMH.”
It shows me that 3B has analytical thinking unlike you. Years of BS history, written by white victors, that tells us nothing about the real world today. You can find it all on wiki with better detail and competing accounts. We don’t need Jeopardy champions. We need people who understand math concepts, can calculate basic interest, and understand branches of govt and their duties, constitutional law, voting rights and their state and local laws. Citizenship 101.
We need people who understand math concepts, can calculate basic interest, and understand branches of govt and their duties, constitutional law, voting rights and their state and local laws. Citizenship 101.
Amen again! :)
I watched about ten minutes of the Supreme Court show. I watched the part where Cruz put up an easel and paraded a visual aid of the child porn surfers she released early.
I don’t know the nature of any of those cases, but Cruz is going down a slippery slope if he is insinuating that the court should be making decisions based on factors outside of the law specifically. The job of the supreme court is not to make personal judgements of character or otherwise. I can say I think that pedophiles and child pornographers deserve to rot in hell forever,, and should all be put to death, but that’s not a quality I want sitting at the bench of the highest court in the US. If she went outside the law to punish those criminals above and beyond, that would actually make her a terrible nominee.
Analytical thinking would have taught you that history was written by the winners.
Bystander says:
March 24, 2022 at 2:04 pm
“Yes, let’s eliminate history. That has to be one of the dumbest things you have ever said. SMH.”
It shows me that 3B has analytical thinking unlike you. Years of BS history, written by white victors, that tells us nothing about the real world today. You can find it all on wiki with better detail and competing accounts. We don’t need Jeopardy champions. We need people who understand math concepts, can calculate basic interest, and understand branches of govt and their duties, constitutional law, voting rights and their state and local laws. Citizenship 101.
Was I taught about King Leopold I and Napoleonic Wars? Probably. Was I told about Leopold 2 and that he was a genocidal murderer in Africa? Absolutely not. Hey but who needs to know that in Catholic school? Lets talk Jesus’s history for 12 years, persecution of Christians and evil protestants with the Reformation. Much more important.
Bystander: I have no problem with history being taught as long as it’s accurate. I am a history dork, and have been for years. I find the subject fascinating and important if taught properly many times it’s not.
My point to pumps was he states if you can read and write and have common sense , you don’t need a financial literacy course in high school, so by that reasoning you don’t need all those years of history, you can just read about it.
How do you understand this without any historical context?
I’m done for today…you guys triggered me enough. Treating the wonderful subject of history as a joke is enough for me. F that.
“We need people who understand math concepts, can calculate basic interest, and understand branches of govt and their duties, constitutional law, voting rights and their state and local laws. Citizenship 101”
Pumps Yes history is written by the winners but real historians, those with a passion try to get to the truth, or at least a more balanced view of what occurred.
By your comment about history being written by the winners and assuming that’s how you teach it , then all the more reason to eliminate history teachers. Again, just going by your own rationale.
Eddie, every time you are confronted with such an accusation you wheel out your story about your father’s business and his kindness to the minority kids in the neighborhood. We have all heard it.
It was a family affair but such a small and miniscule contribution. Just a snapshot in time. One big event during Christmas time to give back something. Oh, there was other smaller acknowledgments like giving that kid my luggage, some money and a plane ticket to Los Angeles. He made the NBA! But all just a brief respite from their daily lives. I always said that if I had ridiculous, uber bucks, I would donate to children’s causes in a big way. Nothing hurts more than to see a kid neglected or misguided. If I had sick money, I would adopt as many kids as possible; black, brown, red, white, blue… wouldn’t matter, knowing that I could guide them, teach them would be more rewarding than any price could offer.
Eddie bring up the fact that the left uses race as a weapon and you touch a cord. They’ll come out from the woodwork to attack. It’s played out.
For the record I did say under qualified. She’s been described as thin on opinion, which means she’s an unknown. That shouldn’t be the case. If you can’t answer a simple question then it doesn’t bode well. The Supreme Court member is not spotted to be a rubber stamp.
I have to reply to this.
Here is my simple point. How can you become financially literate and understand compounding or interest rates if you can’t do basic math. Florida politicians now get to paint the picture that they are improving education, meanwhile most of those students are below their grade level in math. Work on getting them the basics in math before you start moving on to concepts they will never understand at their current level of math.
“My point to pumps was he states if you can read and write and have common sense , you don’t need a financial literacy course in high school, so by that reasoning you don’t need all those years of history, you can just read about it.”
That requires analytical thinking, dummy? My god. Pretty sure that is problem with Smalls of world. They swallowed whatever patriotic tripe was put forth and never questioned anything other than his own sexuality. You still following obscure gay man festival activities, Small?
Pumps: You make your own hell here, don’t blame others. I noted Fla is going to require a financial literacy course in high school, along with other states currently doing it.
You could have easily said that’s a good idea, or maybe it could be a good idea, it has merit etc. But no, not you, you dismiss it as not needed all students need is math and reading and common sense. Then it’s on to how smart you were and your house purchase at 19 and on and on. Then of course your logic is rightly challenged by myself and others and now your feelings are hurt.
Again, financial literacy being taught in high school should have been something that all here could be in agreement on, but no, not you, you had to turn it into an argument. The only person triggering you is you.
Pumps: Re: You have to reply to this. The two math and financial literacy are not independent of each other nor are they mutually exclusive. Yes improve math scores , particularly the basics of math that people use everyday, then apply those basics to financial literacy. Algebra, and trigonometric and calculus are not going to help your everyday Joes as you call them.
3b,
History was my favorite subject. I still think it take crazy amount of time away better intellectual pursuits in grade school and high school. Knowing the greek gods won’t help much today. Know the greeks delta, theta and vega will.
The point the republicans are trying to make with the sentencing, is that it shows poor judgement. As a judge, sentencing someone convicted of serious crimes to punishment below the guidelines shows contempt for the law unless there was some extenuating circumstance. It’s exactly the opposite of what you are saying Grim, she went outside the establish precedent with her sentences and at least one perp re-offended.
Jackson is intelligent and composed but she is a very bad pick for the supreme court, she is an activist judge even more so than the wingnuts the right have selected for the court. Leondra Kruger would have been the right pick if it needed to be a “woman of color”, she was purposely not selected because she respects the law. Just the Trump rulings alone indicate this woman is willing to ignore the law when it runs counter her political beliefs.
This is another selection like Sotomayor, who’s opinions suck because she knows there is no basis in law for how she rules. At least RBG and Kagan can twist themselves into legal pretzels to support their rulings. I for one hope it is sandbagged.
Just look at Merrick Garland, we dodged a bullet with that pick it seems like Kavanaugh is much more moderate. Based on how he is running the DOJ he was an abhorrent pick for the supreme court, he has zero respect for the law or impartiality. I might go so far as to say his DOJ is acting criminally not just with political motivation.
Please JCer..unprecedented BS that went on with Obama’s pick while Moscow Mitch shoved through ACB at end of Trump term. Antonin Scalia anyone? Talked about racist, religious nut job on court. We dodged no bullet there. The Rs don’t care about rule of law, just satisfying their religious base with possibility of R v W overturn. That is why none of Rs here will discuss mention of packing courts with Catholics but race is somehow the bigger concern.
I saw the stuff that they claimed was teaching “history” to my daughter over the past 15 years.
1) they removed most of the history and mostly replaced it with amorphous crap called “social studies”. One whole year wasted on studying NJ. About 70% US history that ever did get taught in K-8 was about slavery. As if that was the only thing really important to know about the US.
2) History books for US schools are now being written by losers, not by winners. My daughter’s main high school US History book was written by a loser socialist, Howard Zinn.
Only basic math at about a 6th grade level is required to understand personal finance.
Schools devote significantly more time to sex education than personal finance, which is possibly zero. A teacher might put some in an economics elective that most kids don’t take. My daughter’s HS econ teacher did do a project where kids had to come up with a budget, he gave them a job and an income and they actually had to look up what it cost to pay rent, buy furniture, food, gas, insurance, etc, and withholding taxes, and then had to calculate out what their income and their positive/negative outflow was at the end of a year. Probably one of the most useful projects my daughter did in high school, but most kids never even think about such stuff. Should help motivate them think about the need to come up with a career, and think about their costs of living. In contrast the stock market game they do is terrible. Makes kids think of investing as a short term, high volatility gamble rather than a long term process. They make the goal beating your classmates in two months. Which basically forces everyone into levered positions seeking maximum volatility in a short period. That’s not what real investing is about.
There used to be a course called “Civics” that taught how the US government is structured and how it kind of works. I don’t know if that gets taught any more. Probably not.
FYI,
They have a personal finance class at my school. Had it before I started. It’s being taught, but it’s a waste of time IMHO. Kids in the class learn to develop a budget, how credit cards work, etc…
They will still end up broke and in debt because they have no self control. If they did, they wouldn’t have 400 dollar nike sneakers on in the ghetto.
I teach U.S. history I….I don’t teach about the colonies or any of that. It starts with how our govt was formed and the principles it is based on. aka your civics. It then goes over the expansion of the U.S. (manifest destiny). During this expansion period, you are to make connections on how slavery divided our country and set them on two different economic paths.
I wish I had students that care, so we can discuss how slavery actually hurt the south economically. Held it back for so long as they chose an agrarian economy over an industrialized one. How the rich landowners shot themselves in the foot by limiting education of the poor whites and freedmen in the name of maintaining their control over this population. The north became an economic powerhouse while they got left behind.
I went on an interview years ago and the guy asked, “How many gas stations are there in America?” I quickly figured that the US is roughly 2000 x 3000 miles, a tank could probably get you 350 miles so you figure on average, a station can be found every 6.5 miles. If there’s roughly so many blah, blah sq. miles in America, then there’s blah, blah number of stations. The number is not the solution. The solution is how you calculate it, what your thought process is. That’s what the interviewer wanted to hear. If I would have said, “I have no idea” or “I don’t know” then I’m not getting the job. Sorry, she doesn’t qualify.
Bystander: History was my favorite subject too, and still is. It’s importance is that it shows time and time again how history if not repeating itself often times rhymes, and we should learn from it.
I think American history should be taught objectively and honestly and nothing hidden. The good, bad and the ugly. Not the rah rah everything was great, and certainly not the radical leftist crap being taught today that says the USA was and is rotten to the core.
I still think America overall has been a tremendous success and has done much good in the world. In spite of all the naysayers and the problems we are the most successful multi racial country in the world. The radicals on both sides are trying to destroy it. I believe as did my immigrant Father if the USA falls apart/ declines then that’s the end.
Pumps: So it does not work for the ghetto kids as you say, but it could work for other kids. It’s an important life skill and it should be taught those that want to learn those skills will.
“I think that pedophiles and child pornographers deserve to rot in hell forever,, and should all be put to death”
For many people convicted of a child pornography offense, the prison sentence is the least of it.
Sell drugs, rob people, even kill someone while DUI, and society will mostly forgive you after you do your time.
Not so with child pornography. You’re on that sex offender list for maybe forever, and you will always be a social pariah.
I had an old friend who was arrested for possession of child porn back around 2007ish (part of a big nationwide sting operation- it was big news at the time). We were good friends since grammar school. I was best man at his wedding. Probably my closest friend for the first half of my life (though we drifted apart through the years as life took over.)
After his arrest, he immediately got fired from his good paying upper middle class job- unemployed for 2 years until his case was resolved.
Wound up doing about 3 years in prison. Wife divorced him. Destroyed his family (5 kids!)
After prison, all he could get were menial jobs. He was broke or close to it most of the time. His pre-existing drinking problem got much worse.
He died a few years ago from alcohol withdrawal- he had no money left to buy booze. His ex thinks he was determined to drink himself to death.
I probably have some personal bias, but I can understand a judge showing a little compassion in some of those cases.
Eddie,
I heard of an Ivy kid flunking his job interview spectacularly at my company, starting with a question like that. Either from Princeton or U Penn, I forget which. I think he was an advanced math type of guy who played music in his spare time. Resume looked good if a bit quirky. In his interview one of my older colleagues asked him how many gas stations in NJ. The guy answered one million, no explanation. My colleague offered that NJ had a total population of 8 million, does knowing that change his answer? No, one million. Then my colleague asked another common-sense type of question, (I forget what it was), then the kid came back saying something like “a better question is…(whatever he said)” without answering, and then my colleague asked another question and the kid did another “a better question is”. And then my college sternly told this kid that his non-response to his question was frankly insulting to him. And then the kid started to cry.
Keep in mind that this colleague was generally known to be much kinder and more of gentle in interviews than I am. And this kid made it through my interview without much difficulty – I was basically asking him about more technical or abstract stuff. Anyway this kid didn’t get asked back.
In general I think my company tries to hire Ivy league kids to do work that doesn’t need Ivy league kids. Instead it needs people who are responsible, meticulous, and reliable. Ivy league kids get bored and then they quit after 2 or 3 years because they’re focused on climbing a ladder, which means they have to job hop, and possibly do an MBA in between.
Criminal referrals for conspiracy, false statements and obstruction of Congress, that was for two of the witnesses that went to Congress with false accusations against Kavanaugh. The other two witnesses Ford who said she was groped at 15, and Ramirez who said he stuck his junk in her face had no corroboration witnesses or any evidence found by the FBI, NY Times investigations as well as other media at all yet they were also paraded in front of congress anyway.
It no longer pays to be a man when you want to be in the Supreme Court or really any office. You can be accused of really anything, by anyone with zero evidence, those hearings are now a circus and Biden was one of the ones who sullied it the most with his high tech lynching of Clarence Thomas.
I don’t know the details of these child porn cases, but I do know of a lot of people that had their lives ruined by unknowingly having child porn on their hard drives. This happened mostly in the early days of PTP networking. I am 100% convinced that the authorities intentionally stashed the stuff on the victim’s drives too. I’ve been a fan of the VPN ever since. I wonder how many men and women of the cloth are let off easy or let out early?
As to history and especially US History. I learned more about the truth from Mel Brooks than from Simon & Schuster. I think my generation was the last to get the whitewashed version. I’ve told you all about my amazing 9th grade history teacher who went on to become mayor of East Brunswick. Dude was first to teach us about how imperialist the US was. How we refused to enter WWII in the 30s when we were begged to. Only country to use the atomic bomb. Bikini Atoll, Etc. It wasn’t all bad, but at least he got us talking and thinking. Taught is how to properly write a paper, use the reference department at the library, finance, etc. His tactics would should have gotten him fired, but everyone knew he was brilliant when it came to turning the boneheads (what he called the C and D students) into productive participants in the classroom. And he put the Braniacs into their place as well, mainly, for not helping the boneheads along. The middle? By the end of the school year, he considered the entire class the middle.
As the Dem party continues to shed white males (including Hispanic males), it becomes not just more feminized, but more radically feminized. In doing so, it also becomes more blatantly focused on score-settling. While it’s crystal clear that score-settling is the only agenda of know-nothings like Oblama, Karmella Harris, AOC, Sen Pocahontas, etc, it’s becoming obvious that the shrinking group of self-loathing, white male cucks that continue to support the Dem party — even while becoming an increasingly marginalized wing of the party — surprisingly, and perhaps without any self-realization, actively support this score-settling agenda. Examples of people in this group include: SlowJoe, Bi, Bill DeBlasio, Flab, Adam Schiff, Ex.
Hard to argue Juice. Unless Souter type is running, a man is fair game for any accusation.
3b,
I agree on balance in history in schools but realize that American schools got away with never presenting any view of black experience with slavery. Sheet, it was a white author Mark Twain who introduced a slave to most children and that was fictional. Slavery has always been taught as a war, freedom then technical court-cases but never first hand experience nor repercussions. That is travesty and lunatic Rs want to immediately bashlash against CRT with “don’t blame my white kid who was not alive” rhetoric..unreal. 70% of US history about slavery, Indian genocide? Sounds about right as black slave labor built this country and slaughtering Indians allowed for whites to take over fertile midwest farmland. 20% can be about our great pilgrims and forefathers and 10% on WWI and WWII and great post war boom that led to selfish destructive boomers gen. Here we are today. Perfect
Stu, check your email….looking at stocks like WMT, TJX, etc. At a discount, through put writes….
“Some of Harris’s advisers believed the president’s almost entirely white inner circle did not show the vice president the respect she deserved,”
What’s it have to do with race….she is so insignificant that when she walked into the room I would be on the mobile, stay on the mobile while shooting her a dirty glance as she started speaking, and lift a cheek to rip a loud, wet one.
That’s the respect she’s ‘earned’….
Bystander: I don’t disagree that the history of slavery and how the native Americans were treated was poorly taught in this country. I don’t agree that CRT is the answer in fact it’s worse in many respects, but we can agree to disagree on that.
However, there are many immigrant groups in this country that are overlooked in this country and the experiences including discrimination that they had to overcome, nothing in comparison to slavery and the Native American experience, but still not taught. As an aside it’s glossed over that some Native American tribes in fact owned slaves.
In teaching European history, Britain s colonial history is glossed over as is the French and others including the atrocities committed by the Belgians in the Belgian Congo. Africa today is pretty much a mess and in large part because European powers arbitrarily drew lines in the continent for their colonies which then became independent. History needs to be taught honestly, and objectively including racism .
The current radical left believes racism is a white man affliction any one from any racial group can be a racist, including Blacks, Asians and Hispanics.
Bystander – The real problem I see with this legal concept of CRT and teaching History and whatever is being taught in any form at any grade level about is the fact the vast majority of people in this country do not trace their heritage to the time when slavery was legal in the USA. Their ancestors were not here at the time of the Civil war, History teaches us on the eve of the Civil War in 1860 there were 393,975 slave owners in the south. My ancestors and other here had nothing to do with it. Just because I may be white does not take into account my background at all. It’s patently wrong in that regard, and well it’s patently biased teaching.
Harris doesn’t do any prep work, seems abrasive. Just tries to wing everything. She’s basically orange one without his weird charisma and a schlong.
This is so stupid you should be ashamed of yourself. She didn’t say “I have no idea” or “I don’t know, ” she respectfully explained why the questions were not appropriate or why it was inappropriate for her to answer.
Fast Eddie says:
March 24, 2022 at 3:28 pm
I went on an interview years ago and the guy asked, “How many gas stations are there in America?” I quickly figured that the US is roughly 2000 x 3000 miles, a tank could probably get you 350 miles so you figure on average, a station can be found every 6.5 miles. If there’s roughly so many blah, blah sq. miles in America, then there’s blah, blah number of stations. The number is not the solution. The solution is how you calculate it, what your thought process is. That’s what the interviewer wanted to hear. If I would have said, “I have no idea” or “I don’t know” then I’m not getting the job. Sorry, she doesn’t qualify.
The Populist Crew believes they are all right wing radio hosts. Or simply, that we will fall for the same bullsh1t that they pedal, besides pillows and limited edition coins.
Personal finance – as you might expect, there are text books for high school aged students that teach personal finance. Pumpkin might be thinking a bit too much about the bottom 25% of American students that do not have functioning math skills. The road to ruin is paved, as a society by focusing too much on the bottom quarter. Some appreciable portion of the other 75% might gain valuable life skills from a personal finance course. Three cheers to FL for trying this. Will be interesting to see the social science studies that emerge on whether FL’s curriculum will result in higher net worths in 10 years+. Maybe at least less complaining about being scammed into six-figure student debt.
US population descended from owners of slaves or thr slaves themselves . . . 25% of the US population (80M+ ppl) are either post-1965 immigrants or descended therefrom. 50%+ in our gateway regions (NY metro area, MIA, LA etc). Less and less of Albion’s seed, proportionally, around here.
A lot of anger here today.
Everybody should take a deep breath, relax.
Namisteeeee…..
To grim’s point she’s going to be confirmed. Technically, the Rs could delay it I believe as the full Dem caucus is not present but eventually it’s a done deal.
The objectionable questioning by any Senator is done for the cameras. No coincidence the loudest are those who have had their ‘right’ bona fides questioned recently. It’s for show. Pay as much attention to it as you do a subway singer…or Ford.
Like others I haven’t watched the hearings but read. With the foregone conclusion the nominee was going to be a liberal, and with the parameters set by the man doing the selection that it needed to be a black woman, she could be a lot worse.
Regarding the hearings, I suspect if she could have a ‘do-over’ it would be on the question to define a woman….seems for some reason the liberal go to response on gender identity is not to answer the question directly (surprise, surprise) but to try to turn it on the questioner by asking “Are you a biologist”.
Her nationally televised response to the Senate on a salient public issue during the interview for one of the most powerful (not to mention lifetime) jobs in the country being the deflection of “I am not a biologist” was not her best moment…
I, somewhat counterintuitively, took some comfort though…my thought is if she were one of the ‘true believers’ she would have not deflected…her job is in the bag after all…..I think the deflection provided the acceptable response to the Left but if you think about it actually kept her view open….
Overall, with her replacing a liberal and the foregone conclusion being that a liberal would be appointed we could have done much worse. There is an outside chance that for once in 150 years we may actually see a Left appointee drift more toward center…
Where am I really bent? Not at the Left or their appointee. I’m ripshit at that orange motherfucking clown show that not only blew the Presidency but whose obstinacy and idiocy punted in-the-bag control of the Senate, both of which losses put us in this situation to start…..
“A lot of anger here today.”
I was busy all day so my moderating effects were absent…/s :)
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
Too bad, for a mayor of NYC and Democrat I actually liked Adams before this recent move.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kyrie-irving-cleared-to-play-in-nets-home-games-as-new-york-mayor-eric-adams-alters-vaccine-mandate/
I saw Cory Booker’s comments yesterday to Jackson. I actually enjoyed them. A little over the top, but he is a good speaker when he isn’t trying to be a politician.
Thought the same.
I’ve had two interview questions like that.
How many soda machines right now in the USA?
How many airplanes in the sky right now?
Y’all talking to some worthless interviewers.
By the way, I’d answer:
Let me check flightaware.com, looks like 11,302.
Canary in the coal mine of an overheated labor market…workers telling bosses how it’s going to be…aka wfh.
“I just heard a commentator on CNBC say there is no recession with initial jobless claims as low as 187k. Last time this happened? September 6th, 1969. When did the recession begin? Try… December 1969. This is otherwise known as classic late-cycle!”
“As the Dem party continues to shed white males (including Hispanic males)”
You sound excited..especially about Hispanic men. More caramel for you. No shame small.
Juice/3B,
My Dad’s father came from Ireland in 1925 and my mother came to US from Ireland in 1962 at 17. I get that the no connections to slavery thing but no Irish (or Italians or Jews) is not the same thing and having a negro features. It is not something you can get away from while Irish or Italian accent (or name) are simple things to get away from. My wife’s father changed family name to bland American name from heavy Italian name. You also benefitted from a society built on suppressing blacks. Getting here and being white was most of the battle for Europeans. It is not equatable..at all. Lets start with basic black and Indian experience before we get to poor Irish who did just fine within a gen.
Bystander,
Slavery did terrible harm to the psyche and confidence of African Americans. It’s ingrained in the majority of African Americans minds that skin color equals success. So anytime they fail, they blame the race card (rightfully so, look at history). They turn to victim mentality because of American history and it’s impact on their reflection of themselves. These are very broken individuals and I wish I could help.
I do believe there is a correlation with my position above, and why they are afraid to commit to a nuclear family. It’s no coincidence that so many turn down the road of multiple “bsby mamas” with no ability is to commit.
Ok bystander, it’s official you don’t know shit. A hundred years ago the KKK was burning crosses on the lawn of Jews and Italians. The divisions were very strong(just look how some ethnicities self segregate), do you realize Columbus Day was made a holiday because a bunch of Italian Americans were lynched in the south? I’m not trying to take away from the suffering experienced by black folks but discrimination was far more widespread and affected far more people than anyone wants to admit and it went on longer than anyone wants to admit.
Furthermore a “society built on suppressing blacks” is a bit of a loaded statement, do you have any data to back that assertion? The US was mostly built on the economic development of it’s northern industrial centers by and large the US was built on exploited immigrants(Irish, Germans, Italians, Jews, Poles, Czechs, Chinese so and so forth) in the major cities. Again not to minimize black people’s contributions to the economy but to say the exploitation of blacks was the driver of our early economic growth is not based in fact. If anything slavery was extremely negative if you include the costs of the civil war, the prevailing wage for labor at the time ultimately would have been cheaper all things considered. The economic disparity between the north and south are solid evidence of this fact, most northern states were either free or otherwise phasing out slavery by the 19th century.
Juice is absolutely right why should we teach the grandchildren of exploited immigrants that they somehow have privilege. 40 years ago they wouldn’t be able to join certain country clubs and certainly would not be able to rise to management in certain firms but somehow these people have “privilege” despite being discriminated against as recently as the 1980’s. Teaching that white people are the “oppressor” is absolute nonsense, human nature can be a terrible thing. One can look at what happened in Haiti, after the revolution they took over the Dominican Republic, the Black leaders of Haiti were super racist against the mestizo people of the DR it is one of the reasons their relationship is strained to this day.
Bystander: no arguments on it being easier for white Irish and Italians but they were discriminated against. In fact in NYC during the so called famine era of Irish immigration there was debate among the elites of NYC who they despised most freed Blacks or Irish Catholics. The Irish were held as even more foreign than Blacks because of their Catholicism not to mention many did not speak English or spoke very little. As for achieving it all in one generation that’s a little simplistic but it was within a couple of generations. As for the Irish who paved the way for all the other white ethnic groups they went and took the power from the natives having familiarity with English rule and power in their native country. That all said there was still anti Catholicism high up in American society up to the election of JFK.
As for Black Americans today away from whatever more the government might be able to do, they too will have to make an effort, and recognize negative activities that poor/ low income Blacks engage in that hold them back . Everything needs to be put on the table if we as a country are going to move forward. Teaching false history which I believe a lot of CRT is, and telling Black Americans that they can never move forward and they will forever be victims is wrong .
Jcer: Jews and Irish Catholics were big in the bond business for years as the WASPs would not let them in the equities/investment banking business. Bond business was considered beneath them.
Pumps: African Americans did believe in the nuclear family prior to the advent of the 1960s. The out of wedlock birth rate for Blacks was no where near as high as it is today. The breakdown of family in the Black communities is causing immeasurable harm , and it’s something that has to be addressed if there is any hope of moving forward.
I would love to form a group discussion about this in my classroom. Too bad no one gives a damn.
You know me and my ocd, this discussion is exactly what I was talking about in my earlier post. If only my students cared…this could be a phenomenal discussion group topic.
“Furthermore a “society built on suppressing blacks” is a bit of a loaded statement, do you have any data to back that assertion? The US was mostly built on the economic development of it’s northern industrial centers by and large the US was built on exploited immigrants(Irish, Germans, Italians, Jews, Poles, Czechs, Chinese so and so forth) in the major cities. Again not to minimize black people’s contributions to the economy but to say the exploitation of blacks was the driver of our early economic growth is not based in fact. If anything slavery was extremely negative if you include the costs of the civil war, the prevailing wage for labor at the time ultimately would have been cheaper all things considered. The economic disparity between the north and south are solid evidence of this fact, most northern states were either free or otherwise phasing out slavery by the 19th century.”
Maybe the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s was the source of this self reflection I spoke about in my previous posts.
3b says:
March 24, 2022 at 9:10 pm
Pumps: African Americans did believe in the nuclear family prior to the advent of the 1960s. The out of wedlock birth rate for Blacks was no where near as high as it is today. The breakdown of family in the Black communities is causing immeasurable harm , and it’s something that has to be addressed if there is any hope of moving forward.
Maybe during the 60s, they began to acknowledge race as the source of failure and not their ambitions?
I have students that think outright all white people are rich. Let that sink in for a second.
That’s the irony in all this. Southern white landowners even made this very argument in defense of the slavery institution. They were so ignorant that they didn’t realize they were better off without slavery..there was more profit in wage slavery…
“wage for labor at the time ultimately would have been cheaper all things considered.”
And at the end of the day….what kept slavery alive…greed. The price of a slave was insane at one point. So how many human beings would give up millions of dollars to free your slaves. Now you know why money is the root of all evil. Never underestimate what people will do for it. Slavery is a perfect example of that evil.
Pumps: I don’t buy that. Things in the 1960s were at least ostensibly starting to improve, the civil rights act, the ridding or at least real effort to end officially government sanctioned schools segregation.
What possible purpose would it serve for Black Americans to make a conscious decision to give up marriage and family and have children sometimes multiple children out of wedlock.
3b,
Maybe the source was the “War on Drugs.” That def seems like a source. Bunch of racist white cops given the law to act on their racist instincts. It sure seems like a likely source.
Pumps herein lies the issue of the American South, without importing the labor they would never get anyone to do it, by it’s nature it required massive numbers of human laborers who in aggregate produced great wealth but individually produced very little. Make no mistake but pretty much every agrarian society has been built on forced labor until the advent of mechanization and fossil fuels. Basically the lifestyle afforded to a worker of the land would mean constant turnover if workers had freedom and it likely would have meant lower profits and lifestyle for the plantation owners. So basically they would have needed to import the labor at a cost and then those workers would leave as soon as they possibly could. The north successfully imported the industrial labor but industrial production produced more value per capita so even an exploited factory worker lived better than a share cropper of any race. The closest thing in the north to farming conditions would be mining and other such jobs but they did not require as many laborers as tobacco or cotton farms.
The other issue with slavery was that it had momentum, there was a lot of fear of what would happen when it ended. Many of those plantation owners figured if slavery ended they’d be in trouble as they were far outnumbered by their slaves and didn’t exactly have goodwill with these people. Even people like Jefferson who had a good relationship with his slaves would not free them because they were collateral on his loans and were needed to make the payments to his lenders, he also had concerns about what they would once free. I don’t believe most plantation owners had good intentions like Jefferson but at least some did. You are very right that greed played a very big part.
Pumps children out of wedlock are a problem affecting the underclass of pretty much every race, it just happens that the Black underclass is a larger percentage of the population. First and foremost welfare policies made single parent families a possibility, this came about in the 1960’s with the great society programs, without the support there would need to be family unit formation otherwise children will starve, most people even bastards won’t let their kids starve. Next there has been a move away from religion, religious participation promotes the nuclear family unit, as people have become more secular it has become more acceptable to have children out of wedlock. 70 years ago you would have been shunned by your religious community if you had a child out of wedlock, the parents and community forced shotgun weddings. The women’s rights movement also played a part as interaction between unmarried women and men became more common.
Having children out of wedlock is becoming more common than the nuclear family. I think it officially became fact a few years ago, but I could be wrong on that one. But I know more than a few who have. My neighbors daughter had 2 kids at age 25 and 27 and didn’t get married. She bought a home with the guy though. My sister is currently trying with her BF who is married but estranged for 15 years.
I have no idea the rationale behind this. My theory is, people are too focused on their careers and saddled with debt to get married but the biological clock requires them to have a kid prior to 40 so someone takes care of them when they are old.
Wow a whole lot of crazy in here. Lets start by cleaning up some old business.
Left its not so much the source, its more being able to look at the information and being able to distinguish between fact and opinion. I don’t take any posting in a vacuum. What are the sources, what are the citations and references, where is it being discussed and reviewed elsewhere.
While Sleeper cell may be Hyperbole, those senators have a lot of explaining to do. You want a better source try this. https://www.justsecurity.org/71947/how-sen-ron-johnsons-investigation-became-an-enabler-of-russian-disinformation-part-i/
You want Donnie and Russia in the 80s try this. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842/
Yes I believe the Steele dossier is accurate. Over 70% has been proven through other means. Of the other 30% and yes that includes the pee tape, who knows? We will have to wait and see. What I do know is of that 30% only one small fact has had doubt cast on it. Michael Cohens burner phone pinged in the Seychelles. He says while the phone was his, he was not there. So either he was there and is lying or someone else (Traitor Tot) had the phone.
But hey, keep running for that exit ramp. Run Forrest Run
And while this new data, which the researchers gathered from a group of 1,000 individuals, certainly reinforces that assertion, it also indicates a strong presence for the dark empath group.
“As expected, we found a traditional dark triad group with low scores in empathy (about
A new “dangerous” character trait dubbed “dark empathy” has been identified by scientists — but do you possess it?
Recent research has found that individuals who boast dark personality traits, such as narcissism, can still retain high levels of cognitive and affective empathy.
The study, recently published in Personality and Individual Differences, identifies these types of people as “dark empaths.”
Empathy can be broken up into three categories: cognitive, which describes the intellectual understanding of someone else’s feelings without sensing them; affective, or feeling someone else’s emotions as your own; or compassionate, a combination of cognitive and emotional empathy.
Individuals are considered dark empaths when they possess cognitive and/or affective empathy as well as characteristics from the “dark triad” — a collective term for three dark personality traits: Machiavellianism, psychopathy and narcissism. 13 percent of the sample). We also found a group with lower to average levels across all traits (about 34 percent were ‘typicals’) and a group with low dark traits and high levels of empathy (about 33 percent were empaths),” the study’s authors said.
“However, a fourth group of people, the ‘dark empaths,’ was clearly evident. They had higher scores on both dark traits and empathy (about 20 percent of our sample). Interestingly, this latter group scored higher on both cognitive and affective empathy than the ‘dark triad’ and ‘typical’ groups,” they added.
Grim, will Dems regret this nom, more than the GOP regret Roberts?
GOP hypocrisy on SOCTUS is always outstanding. Bretts nomination was an absolute farce. From the crying and the “I love beer” monologue. To Barr putting his thumb on the scale and restricing what the Feds could look at in the background checks.
And we still have the unanswered questions.
Who paid his country club dues?
Who paid off his credit card debt?
Who paid off his mortgage?
Who bought the SCOTUS Seat?
In fact all GOP members should be issued one of these for SCOTUS Hearings. https://www.etsy.com/listing/919793906/pearl-clutching-emergency
Before you even attempt to discredit any Dem nomination, you have to explain it in the context of Harriet Mires.
KBJs answer on women and other questions was perfect and very refreshing. To paraphrase, she is not an expect on Biology, she is an expert in resolving disputes in the framework of the law.
As to lax sentencing, I would point out all these Jan 6th cases that are getting settled at the moment with sentences coming out where the judges are going below what the Feds are requesting. Again, put down the pearls and pick a position. You don’t get it both ways!
Nice piece on how the FBI background check on Brett went.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/14/brett-kavanaugh-fbi-investigation-documents
Biden may get another pick with Thomas being hospitalized.
Is he in Hospital or hiding? Ginnis Sedation texts with Meadows drop and Clarence is MIA. That should be the story of the day. He was the only dissenting vote not to release phone records to the Jan 6th committee? He does not recuse himself in a case that implicates his wife.
Again GOP, go grab your pearls.
Harris being snubbed in the Oval office?
What Journalist is hyping their book this time. No idea who it is is, just drop them into the Noonan, Haberman, Woodward garbage bucket.
Juice, well you seem to be turning into the local correspondent for Janes Defense Weekly. When I was in my teens, I got a chance to use a Javelin Training Simulator. Very cool. It had a thumb joystick you could use for course corrections on the way to the target.
Finland leading the way. Seize the boats and then work out who owns them. NICE!
https://jalopnik.com/finland-detains-21-yachts-at-once-just-in-case-they-bel-1848699962
We live in a new world.
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Ukraine Starts Using Facial Recognition To Identify Dead Russians And Tell Their Relatives
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2022/03/23/ukraine-starts-using-facial-recognition-to-identify-dead-russians-and-tell-their-relatives/?sh=374681128985
Find a photo of a dead Russian soldier on social media. Upload it to facial recognition software. Get an identity match from a database of billions of social media images. Identify the deceased’s family and friends. Show them what happened to the victim of Putin’s war and Ukraine’s defense.
This is one of Ukraine’s strategies in trying to inform Russians, who have limited access to non-state-controlled media and information, about the death being wrought by their president’s invasion.
FAB – conflating background check with something else? 4,500 tips on The hot line? THOUSANDS of Crazy lefties declaring false witness, how do you investigate the crazy?Two who took it too far should be prosecuted, the other two had no witnesses, Ford could not even put a date or location on the alleged groping. Ramirez had no witnesses for an incident that may or may not occurred at some drunken college party. There are legal standards for a reason and fishing expeditions by the FBI still require warrants signed by a Judge. The Senate hearings should not be a Salem Witch Trial, but that is Joe Biden”s legacy and his infamous high tech lynching of a qualified Black man who has now served 30 years on the Supreme Court.