Welcome to the Peak

Some great charts over at Visual Capitalist:

Mapped: The Growth in U.S. House Prices by State in 2024

In 2024, U.S. home prices are steadily rising across nearly every state in America.

Overall, home prices rose 6.6% annually as of the first quarter of 2024, the highest increase since 2022. A combination of low inventory and homeowners’ reluctance to sell is driving up home values as interest rates remain persistently high.

Vermont leads in growth, with home prices climbing by 12.8% as home inventory dropped to its lowest point in over a decade.

Next in line are Northeastern states New YorkNew Jersey, and Delaware—each with double-digit growth. Pushing up prices are the influx of buyers moving to more affordable metros nearby major cities along with a lack of inventory. On a metropolitan level, many of the nation’s hottest housing markets are in these states, including Camden, New Jersey and Syracuse, New York.

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217 Responses to Welcome to the Peak

  1. Fabius Maximus says:

    Friskies

  2. LAX says:

    Fiirst

  3. LAX says:

    Hahahaha

  4. grim says:

    Camden is HOT

  5. grim says:

    How about that ‘cane.

    Mega monster this early in the season, Cat 5, 165mph sustained winds, some discussion of peak wind speeds reaching 200mph. First photos out of Union Island show it leveled, hell that whole stretch of small islands from St Vincent to Grenada is probably leveled. If it maintains this strength, Jamaica is in real trouble.

  6. grim says:

    This may rank as the worst kitchen layout I’ve ever seen in a multimillion dollar home:

    https://www.northjersey.com/story/money/real-estate/2024/07/02/teaneck-nj-home-classic-italian-architecture-listed-for-sale/74230934007/

    3 islands, two with sinks? Stove and oven down an odd corridor, well, at least it has a 3rd sink so you don’t need to carry a filled pot. This was new construction, why the hell? This was not designed by anyone that ever spent a second in a kitchen, seems more like an afterthought. If 1 island is good, 3 must be great. Let’s maximize counter space by turning the kitchen into a puzzle piece. Let’s put the fridge, sink, and stove the farthest apart that’s possible, and let’s stick 3 huge obstacles in the way. Oohh ok, we can fix this, let’s stick a second cooktop on the island, but don’t give it any ventilation at all (even downdraft), making it unusable. $5 million. No self-respecting Italian craftsman would have put that together, Nona will have an easier time making ravioli on her kitchen table in Lodi.

  7. Juice Box says:

    Grim – house is extra kosher, it won’t be sold to goyim.

    That whole muddy riverbank on the mighty Hackensack River has been transformed ever since they added a mystical evru wire.

  8. Fabius Maximus says:

    So SCOTUS rulings on Immunity and Chevron have neutered congress. Impeachment is now moot. The “perfect call” to Zelenskyy or Raffensperger are now official acts.

    Donnie is now trying to appeal the hush money case. That should be DOA, as he was not president when it happened, but look for him to try and stretch the ruling.
    SCOTUS kicked it back to the courts for an evidentiary hearing to determine which acts were official and that hearing is going to be lit. No jury, but Smith calls witnesses and dumps all his marbles on the table and the Judge gets to sort them.

    And for those that say that Biden is just a figurehead and its the Dem Machine boogeyman with the real power. What about Donnie? We saw in his last term that he has no desire to actually do the job, he wants the pomp and perks of the job, but none of the work. He is quite happy to had that over to Heritage and the Federalists. All he cares about is Who bends a knee and pays a fee! Seems Woody raised enough for the campaign for that Ambassadorship. Giuliani was accused of selling pardons for $2mil. How much kick back to the Big Man?

    So this time round the reins go to Project 2025, who probably have promised him that they will rewrite things to ensure he gets a third term and beyond.

    But Hey, Joe had a bad debate and needs to be replaced.

  9. grim says:

    Oh Jesus. Ok, that may explain (some of) the duplicity. Though two sinks is not outrageous, and hell, I have two cooktops and two ovens. But if that’s the case, it’s still the worst designed kosher kitchen I’ve ever seen.

  10. Juice Box says:

    FAB- Just like Biden levy bodies are piling up in Trump’s brain too Dr. Pelosi told me so…

    I want neither bring in a nice moderate Democrat around 60 years old, they will get my vote in November.

  11. grim says:

    I concede, you got that right, two dishwashers. Nona is making Kugel, not Ravioli, but still, it tasted better when she made it in the Bronx.

  12. LAX says:

    Fab, Biden showed his weakness in front of 51M people.
    He could barely speak. Why is it so difficult for these old f’ing codgers
    To give up their positions ? See Ruth B Ginsburg for reference.

    They aren’t that important. I don’t think Biden has the popularity going into the debate to blow it like he did. He didn’t have that luxury.

  13. Juice Box says:

    ugh wrong thread… reposting.

    LAX – White House should not be an Assisted living memory care facility. That goes for Trump too….

    From my early morning post this on the last thread. Here is a good read on common knowledge theory.

    https://www.epsilontheory.com/joe-biden-and-the-common-knowledge-game/

    Frankly anyone saying it’s too late to replace Biden, no it is not. They need to convince the delegates and they need to understand he is only going to get much much worse very quickly. No amount of care can slow the progression of this disease.

  14. Old realtor says:

    Other than the cult of Trump, is anyone voting FOR a candidate in this election? From my perspective this election is all about voting against someone.

  15. Juice Box says:

    Speaking of Soprano’s homes and memory care.

    Tony Soprano’s House in Cadwell never sold for 3.5 million back in 2019 when it was last listed. Zillow has it for only 2.1 million now with an ugly tax bill of $34,000. I don’t think Tony can afford to live there now with that kind of tax bill.

    https://www.zillow.com/homes/14-Aspen-Dr-Cedar-Grove,-NJ-07006_rb/38716281_zpid/

  16. Juice Box says:

    Old Realtor – Great point. “Who are you voting for?” Early polling shows 4% are voting for RFK in New Hampshire, that puts Trump over the top. If people weren’t paying attention RFK registered as an independent and is a spoiler in a few close states.

    The Saint Anselm College Survey Center polled more than 1,700 registered voters in the first two days after the recent presidential debate.

    “In the poll, 44% said they support Trump, compared to 42% who said Biden was their choice. Another 4% said they planned to vote for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

    The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.3 percentage points.”

  17. LAX says:

    7:57 you aren’t wrong, but Biden needs to go. He’ll end up being a drag on the down ballot votes. He’s neither compelling or particularly appealing in any way. He’s overstaying his welcome.

  18. LAX says:

    The Biden’s may want to look to France for a clue.
    That Country is weary of Macron and his policies.
    Also his creepy teacher-wife.

  19. TraitorJoe says:

    If you want to identify the cause of a potential constitutional crisis then look no further than “hush money” and all of the other weaponization of government.

    Joe Biden has tried to imprison his political opponent. Period. The ruling is a check on the banana republic tactics.

  20. TraitorJoe says:

    The Biden base has appeared to have dwindled to only the most willfully stupid mouth breathing mob. His closest advisors are a crack addict and an elementary school teacher. It’s hard to find someone who defends him in a rational way.

  21. LAX says:

    8:14 no, no, nooooo

    his political opponent has done enough stupid and illegal shit to put himself away for years.

  22. Fast Eddie says:

    Hey! They gave the vegetable a spray tan! It’s more of a tangerine color, not quite orange. I think they should have Joey lip sync, too… make him sound more with it and younger.

  23. TraitorJoe says:

    Yet somehow these prosecutions consist of novel legal theories brought by democrat party operatives. Hmm, okay.

  24. Fast Eddie says:

    New Jersey currently in the red column, Virginia to follow.

    Who does Trump fire first? Bragg or Lateesha?

  25. Fabius Maximus says:

    There are a few things to consider here. The first is that Left, as we discussed in 2019, your voice is irrelevant here. You are not going to vote Dem, regardless the choice. I still call BS on “I would vote for Bernie.” Name a Dem you would accept? You have made your thoughts on Newsom and Harris clear.

    Juice, who are you replacing him with? Pete, Beto, Whitmer the unknown?

    Factor this into your choice. If anyone leapfrogs Kamala, you run a huge risk of pissing off the female and POC voters. They stay home and the GOP turnout carries Trump.

    Also look who is screaming the loudest for Joe to be replaced. The Dems will be in lockstep.

    I was happy with Joe before the debate, and I’m happy to go forward with him for the next 4 years.

  26. Fabius Maximus says:

    Great optic for Donnie. Document transfer?

    Andrew Leyden @PenguinSix https://x.com/PenguinSix/status/1807097373065150888
    Saturday Update: Trump’s plane is still at IAD next to the Russian government plane, which appears to be readying to leave soon. A United Arab Emirates Air Force C-17 is also parked nearby today.

  27. 3b says:

    Fab: Bad debate?? Seriously, that’s what you call it? As far as Biden has to go , it’s the liberal media, and Democrat insiders now saying Biden has to go. The same ones who were saying up until Thursday of last week all is fine.

  28. 3b says:

    Old: No, I am not voting for any of the 3 running for President. The last Presidential election I voted in was 2012 when I voted for Romney, after being unimpressed with 4 years of Obama ( who I voted for in 2008). People can vote if they wish ,and just skip the Presidential choice.

  29. Fabius Maximus says:

    “Joe Biden has tried to imprison his political opponent. Period. ”

    Traitor, SCOTUS just made that legal!

    What is truly sad but hilarious is that Joes response to the SCOTUS ruling is the position Conservatives have held for years. I must dig out those old Eddie Ray posts where Nom was railing against activist Judiciary.

  30. Old realtor says:

    Who will I vote for? Not voting 3rd party and leaving the door open to another term for Trump. I am vehemently opposed to Christian nationalism and all that goes with it.

    From what I see Kennedy is a greater threat to Trump than he is to Biden or any Democrat. Not a single person in this forum who will switch their vote from the Democratic candidate to Kennedy. Yet if feels like many Republican regulars here see Kennedy as a viable choice.

  31. BRT says:

    Where the hell were you guys when the DNC decided to not run a presidential primary debate?

  32. Chicago says:

    Obama was the ultimate version of this charge. No dirt under that guy’s fingernails in 8 years.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    July 2, 2024 at 7:01 am
    What about Donnie? We saw in his last term that he has no desire to actually do the job, he wants the pomp and perks of the job, but none of the work.

  33. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Ughh….such a tough decision. Sell the rental property now at peak price and pay the taxes now (bet that they raise taxes in the future), or deal with the f’ing headache of managing a property till the next cycle top. I am torn. Any opinions…

    It is good income at this point….maybe just suck it up. I just don’t want to deal with chasing people down for money when recession hits. Ying and yang with anything..

  34. LAX says:

    And so it begins:

    Donald Trump lawyer has said that an alleged fake elector scheme was an “official act” and so should be immune from prosecution in Trump’s federal election interference case.

    Speaking to CNN’s Kaitlan Collins on Monday night, Will Scharf, an attorney for the former president, laid out the next steps for special counsel Jack Smith’s case following the U.S. Supreme Court ruling that former presidents have absolute immunity for their official acts but no immunity for private acts.

    In a federal indictment filed in August, Trump is facing four charges pertaining to his alleged attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. He has denied all wrongdoing.

    Trump’s team is alleged to have created and submitted fraudulent certificates to falsely claim Trump had won the Electoral College vote in certain states to disrupt President Joe Biden’s victory.

  35. Old realtor says:

    3b,
    There is a clear choice of direction in this election. The 2 sides are not the same. The idea of being neutral is absurd. Despite Biden’s age, his direction for the country is a superior choice from my point of view. Of course there are policy positions that I don’t see eye to eye with. Of course I would prefer a younger candidate. Both are unfit for the office but for different reasons. Trump due to his lies, Christian nationalist agenda and complete lack of morality and Biden because of his age. I will take the older of the 2 old men. Trump is likely to add dementia to his list of negatives before his term is complete. He will be older than Biden is right now when his term is completed.

  36. SmallGovConservative says:

    Fabius Maximus says:
    July 2, 2024 at 8:42 am
    “I was happy with Joe before the debate…”

    This is moronic; literally incomprehensible…Flab is either an 18 year old girl, or further along in his dementia journey that Joe himself.

  37. TraitorJoe says:

    Yeah. This guy is all word salad. Like I said, hard to find a rational Biden defender nowadays. How is the court saying the remedy for out of control politicians is the ballot box considered “activism.” It’s the complete opposite of activism.

  38. LAX says:

    ( )( ) ===D — dementia–

  39. Fast Eddie says:

    Congratulations! Enough fentanyl has entered the U.S. to kill every man, woman and child! Also, orphaned kids are being used to come across the border, held in the arms of dubious illegals, ushered back south to be used again to cross with another dubious soul or group, all in the name of asylum. Dr. Phil did a documentary at the border and illustrated how it all works. No DNA samples are taken, it’s strictly a conveyor belt of drug, sex and human trafficking.

  40. LAX says:

    9:32 so outright LIES are fine???

  41. LAX says:

    9:33 Dr Phil…that’s where I go for my information. Next Up…
    Oprah takes on term limits.

  42. Old realtor says:

    Traitor,
    Changing law that has been settled for decades is activism. Overturning Roe and the recent Chevron decision are clearly the work of an activity court.

  43. D-FENS says:

    This is the first A/B test we’ve ever had in a presidential election. Both have been president. By almost every measure one was better.

  44. D-FENS says:

    @RevolverNewsUSA
    Remarkable monologue from David Sacks:

    “The Democratic party is a collection of interests who want to remain in power. The Democratic Party is the party of government. Its goal is to allocate money and power from the government to the collection of interests who back the Democratic Party. In other words, it’s basically a collection of interests who want to loot the Republic.

    Well obviously, no one’s going to vote for that. So they have to make it about something else. They choose a figurehead, they talk about how this is about saving democracy. They basically invent, hoax after hoax, lie after lie to basically maintain their power.

    And I think what’s happened is, the mask has come off, the whole shell game has been revealed. It’s obvious that Biden was always a puppet for these interests who were hiding behind him. And now, it’s all being exposed.”

  45. Old realtor says:

    Defense,
    The problem with that whole theory about the Democrats is that it applies to the Republicans as well. So now we are back to the point of beginning. The problems with both Parties are similar. We clearly prefer different rhetoric. Because in the end, that is the major difference.

  46. Fabius Maximus says:

    “an alleged fake elector scheme was an “official act”

    Interfering in a state election as an “official act”, how’s that going to work?

    Left, you going to be happy when they put the 10th amendment under the bus so he can override States Rights?

  47. Fast Eddie says:

    9:35,

    They spoke to border agents, their superiors, volunteer groups and lots of film. I know, you go to MSNBC for your information since, you know, actual interviews and actual kids being held in border agents arms is right wing disinformation.

    It’s glorious watching your side disintegrate.

  48. No One says:

    Don’t take illicit drugs. Ultimately they are all poison, some stronger than others.
    Stop blaming Mexicans for Americans’ desire to destroy their brains and kill themselves.
    Probably sold by Americans at the retail level.
    The guy who made that show The Wire was basically a commie, but even he couldn’t evade the fact that the blame goes to the people doing this stuff, from the crack hoes to the kid dealers, to the drug kingpins.

  49. Fabius Maximus says:

    Grab the popcorn!

    Hunter Biden sues Fox News over explicit images featured in a streaming series
    https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-fox-news-lawsuit-f6cfb9a9d9a2d1e0d6203d14ee4fdf0b
    NEW YORK (AP) — Hunter Biden accused Fox News in a lawsuit of unlawfully publishing explicit images of him as part of a streaming series.

    The president’s son filed the lawsuit Sunday in state court in Manhattan over images in “The Trial of Hunter Biden,” which debuted on the streaming service Fox Nation in 2022. The series features a “mock trial” of Hunter Biden on charges he has not faced and it includes images of Biden in the nude and engaged in sex acts, according to the lawsuit.

    The lawsuit claims the dissemination of intimate images without his consent violated New York’s so-called revenge pron law.

  50. Old realtor says:

    Fentanyl was a Trump problem too. Can you point to an effective policy put in place by the Trump administration that stemmed the tide of fentanyl coming across the border? You can’t because none ever existed.

  51. TraitorJoe says:

    Roe vs Wade was judicial activism that was overturned. It was never settled.

  52. Old realtor says:

    Traitor,
    You are willfully stupid. Fifty years as the law of the land is pretty f#cking settled. Just because you agree with the change doesn’t make it any less activist.

  53. Fast Eddie says:

    Can you point to an effective policy put in place by the Trump administration that stemmed the tide of fentanyl coming across the border?

    It was in progress until this minor distraction called covid sidetracked things. It was a problem being addressed. In the last few years, it’s become an F5 destruction. It went from a trickle to a tidal wave. The defense of this current administration on every level has failed. Don’t erase it by saying, “yeah but.” It’s not working anymore.

  54. Old realtor says:

    Eddie,
    You answer is, NO there was no policy but I have a poor excuse. Have you considered going into politics?

  55. Fast Eddie says:

    That quote from David Sacks above is spot on and stating the obvious that others have been saying forever. The malcontents, misfits and oddballs need a shoulder to cry on and a sky to scream at so promises from the left is their only outlet for comfort.

  56. Fast Eddie says:

    Sure, covid wasn’t a priority, it was an excuse. 600 miles of wall and 6 trillion rounds of ammo pointed to the south wasn’t a deterrent. Debate all you want, your side is a mess beyond anything we’ve ever seen in our lifetimes.

  57. Juice Box says:

    FAB – I mentioned Andy Beshear two years ago. At this point I’ll take Phil Murphy or Katie Hobbs, someone who at least can put up a fight, everyone now knows Sleepy Joe is done. DNC leadership needs to move fast.

  58. Old realtor says:

    The Affordable Care Act may be the most important legislative achievement of our lifetimes. How horrible to give credit to a Black man for such an achievement.

    The inability to give credit to Obama for this and other achievements is the same thing driving all the hate for Kamala Harris. You were raised in a racist society and cannot give credit for intelligence and achievement to black people, especially women.

  59. Old realtor says:

    My last comment was pointed at Chicago.

    Chicago says:
    July 2, 2024 at 9:12 am
    Obama was the ultimate version of this charge. No dirt under that guy’s fingernails in 8 years.

  60. BRT says:

    The Affordable Care Act may be the most important legislative achievement of our lifetimes. How horrible to give credit to a Black man for such an achievement.

    My healthcare plan went up $13k since that act

  61. 3b says:

    Old: I think you are being unfair there with the Kamala comment. Any one who is honest and not viewing everyone and everything through a race/ sex lens can see that Kamala is inept, and never should have been picked as VP. If we are ever going to get past the race/ sex issue, then we need to be able to say someone is inept, not up to the job, out of their league etc, regardless of what race or sex they are.

  62. Old realtor says:

    BRT,
    My girlfriend works for the State and has the same healthcare coverage as you. Cry me a river. I couldn’t afford that kind of coverage if it were even available to me.

  63. Fast Eddie says:

    The greatest achievement by the modern democrat party is getting the media to brainwash the masses while they loot the country for personal gain.

  64. Old realtor says:

    3b,
    Let everyone have at it with examples of her ineptitude. Not just some gaff of wrong choice of words or something minor, real ineptitude. Please provide some evidence with a link or something of substance. Show me what is wrong with Kamala Harris and not about who she was f*cking.

  65. OC1 says:

    “FAB – I mentioned Andy Beshear two years ago.”

    A democratic governor in a state trump won twice! There’s no shortage of young dem govs with crossover appeal.

    But (assuming they even have presidential ambitions) are any of them willing to jump into a losing campaign this late in the game?

  66. Fast Eddie says:

    Democrats run to gain power, Republicans run to serve the office.

  67. Fast Eddie says:

    Show me what is wrong with Kamala Harris and not about who she was f*cking.

    She has trouble locating the southern border of the United States.

  68. BRT says:

    My girlfriend works for the State and has the same healthcare coverage as you. Cry me a river. I couldn’t afford that kind of coverage if it were even available to me

    I know you couldn’t, because it became “less affordable”. Thank you for proving my point.

  69. 3b says:

    Old: I don’t care who she was doing it with, and I never said I did. Just look/ listen to her press conferences and interviews and trips she has taken. She is clearly uninformed on any topic of substance, and there are multiple examples of this. She has had massive turn over in her office including her top advisor. Her aides spent hours on preparing reports for her on various topics so she can familiarize herself with the issue/s and she just ignores them. It’s sheer arrogance on her part. If you can’t see this, then it’s clear you are blinded by partisanship.

  70. 3b says:

    Fast: And North Korea , South Korea, and who can forget her “detailed” powerful explanation of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. If the choice is Biden for 4 more years I would rather that than Harris. She is scary, arrogant, and stupid, with zero self awareness.

  71. Old realtor says:

    Have you considered that your medical insurance would have increased by substantially more or you could have been excluded for a pre-existing condition?

    BRT says:
    July 2, 2024 at 11:08 am
    My girlfriend works for the State and has the same healthcare coverage as you. Cry me a river. I couldn’t afford that kind of coverage if it were even available to me

    I know you couldn’t, because it became “less affordable”. Thank you for proving my point.

  72. OC1 says:

    BRT (or anyone else who knows) –

    How do you italicize parts of your comment?

  73. Libturd says:

    Old,

    I was thinking the same thing.

  74. OC1 says:

    “Democrats run to gain power, Republicans run to serve the office.”

    Eddie-

    It’s really easy to figure out who’s running to serve and who’s running to gain power.

    Politicians running to serve do this when they lose:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMLmaZ8hUwM

    And politicians running to gain power do this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnzQXD2_d38

  75. Fast Eddie says:

    …you could have been excluded for a pre-existing condition?

    Now I see why the left wanted Obammy Care so badly, they have pre-existing mutton head disease.

  76. Libturd says:

    “The greatest achievement by Trump is his ability to brainwash the masses while he loots the country for personal gain.”

    There. Fixed it for you.

    As for Kamala, her lies about being a great civil rights activist by having to take forced integrated buses IN BERKELEY, is where I knew something was up with her. Then there is the Howard degree. The lack of political experience. The errors as Attorney General in Cali. On the personal side, she suffers from obvious daddy issues. And she was clearly raised as a Black American Princess.

    I’ve said this before. The Dems only chance of winning is if someone non-political (like Trump was) comes out of the woodwork and soon to replace Biden/Kamala. Like a Tom Hanks or even a business leader. Noone from the Dem political class is now electable. Thanks to the corrupt DNC, driver of the gravy train.

  77. D-FENS says:

    I’ve switched jobs a few times since the obamacare law…and I can tell you that my coverage is worse…and more expensive. I also seem to always have a 3-4 thousand dollar deductible…no matter the employer.

    I can’t say for certain but I get the sense that the law has an upper limit for how good your coverage can be before it’s considered a Cadillac plan for which your employer is disincentivized from providing it to you.

    I didn’t see any direct benefit from the law…is there anyone on the board that did?

  78. Fast Eddie says:

    And now, a word from our Vice President:

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RnouK0ZMm28

  79. D-FENS says:

    Another trend I’ve noticed…

    I don’t see many doctors with their own private practice anymore. Most seem to be owned by larger hospital systems or healthcare companies.

    The trend seems to have correlated to the law’s passing.

    I guess if I had a pre-existing condition I’d like it for that reason alone. But, why not just pass a law that outlawed denying coverage for pre-existing conditions.

  80. Libturd says:

    We are 50 points from Nasdaq 18K.

    This country is clearly falling apart.

  81. No One says:

    Libturd,
    Don’t underrepresent Kamala Devi Harris’ Indian heritage!
    It explains as much or more than her Jamaican Marxist dad.

  82. OC1 says:

    “I didn’t see any direct benefit from the law…is there anyone on the board that did?”

    I’m quite happy with my ACA plan. The subsidy makes it very affordable.

  83. Libturd says:

    “I didn’t see any direct benefit from the law…is there anyone on the board that did?”

    My son’s illness has cost us nearly half a million between lawsuits, private education and healthcare. We provide him with much more therapy than the insurance company provides for. Without ACA, it might have cost us double.

    ACA didn’t cost healthcare to skyrocket. It’s the drug companies, the health care and hospital kabals and a government that sleeps with both of them.

    ACA gernerally forced insurance companies to do their job. Which is to charge everyone to cover everyone. Not allow those without issues to be the only ones insured cheaply. I have never had a car insurance claim. I’ve been paying for 36 years now. I’ve likely paid enough to purchase two brand new average priced cars. But I don’t complain as this is how insurance is meant to work.

    Everyone complains about the cost of insurance until they need it. Then they complain that it doesn’t pay enough for adequate care.

    Trust me D. The reason your healthcare is so expensive is because the government allows it to be. Not anything Obama did different to anyone else.

  84. OC1 says:

    “I guess if I had a pre-existing condition I’d like it for that reason alone. But, why not just pass a law that outlawed denying coverage for pre-existing conditions.”

    Some states tried that- but it started a “death spiral”.

    people with pre-existing conditions use more health care. Insuring them causes rates to go up. When rates go up, young healthy people drop their insurance.

    So the insurance pool gets sicker and sicker, and more expensive to insure, and insurance rates skyrocket.

  85. TraitorJoe says:

    No, believing that using privacy grounds as a pretense for exterminating millions of unborn children is an example of judicial activism is not willful stupidity. Willful stupidity is claiming to believe that Joe Biden never spoke to his son about his business affairs.

  86. BRT says:

    Have you considered that your medical insurance would have increased by substantially more or you could have been excluded for a pre-existing condition?

    Sure. My point was, no one’s insurance got more affordable after that act, so you shouldn’t be holding it up as some sort of crowning achievement, despite its name. I too would love affordable health insurance for everybody, but I’m not going to lie to myself and pretend it exists because my politician got some bill shoveled through congress.

  87. D-FENS says:

    This guy is on the island right now

    https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNMNjJUw/

    grim says:
    July 2, 2024 at 6:36 am
    How about that ‘cane.

    Mega monster this early in the season, Cat 5, 165mph sustained winds, some discussion of peak wind speeds reaching 200mph. First photos out of Union Island show it leveled, hell that whole stretch of small islands from St Vincent to Grenada is probably leveled. If it maintains this strength, Jamaica is in real trouble.

  88. OC1 says:

    Thanks!

  89. Libturd says:

    00====|) —

  90. Old realtor says:

    BRT,
    No thought to why it went up or how much more it would have gone up if not for ACA. Just the fact that it went up makes it a bad law? For a guy with a background in science and research, that is a poor basis for a conclusion.

  91. Libturd says:

    If you are going to post about a hurricane, don’t we have a rule that you first must link to this catastrophic coverage?

    https://youtu.be/bKDNWVyDSvs?si=WsWYYwNe4baRcxEg

  92. Fabius Maximus says:

    Down goes Rudy Colludy!

    https://apnews.com/article/giuliani-new-york-disbarred-81b327f9ab1f98548cb888f8e652c9a8
    Giuliani is disbarred in New York as court finds he repeatedly lied about Trump’s 2020 election loss

    That is Donnies other problem, how many will continue to do time or repeated time for him.

  93. LAX says:

    12:41 That’s the spirit!!

  94. 3b says:

    Democrat Congressman Lloyd Doggett calls on Biden to step down. Lloyd is 77 by the way.

  95. BRT says:

    No thought to why it went up or how much more it would have gone up if not for ACA. Just the fact that it went up makes it a bad law? For a guy with a background in science and research, that is a poor basis for a conclusion.

    The fact that it went up makes it impossible to prove your point because the data does not confirm it. You do not have the evidence to draw the conclusion that you want. That’s how science works. A real scientist would say we don’t have enough data to prove one or the other. Might want to stay in your lane before you question my scientific abilities.

  96. Juice Box says:

    3B – rumor has it the Democratic governors have been calling him personally. I doubt it is all for giving 100% support. However he was at Gov Murphy’s house on Saturday and raised $3.6 million. If they keep giving him money then he will keep running, at the end of the day if the money spigot is turned off he will have to not seek re-election. As I have been saying the billionaires and millionaires decide who runs for POTUS, grandma with her $25 check ain’t even registering in an election that will end up costing over $2 Billion.

  97. Fast Eddie says:

    A real scientist would say we don’t have enough data to prove one or the other.

    The democrats follow science, especially when it comes to ambiguity. Analysis and proof become symbolic gestures, verified by the volume of a scream and level of anger.

  98. Juice Box says:

    How does Trump not get a new trial in NY if all that evidence used is now inadmissible?

    Alvin Brags DA office signals they are ok with a postponement for Trump sentencing on appeal. I bet that judge does not want to retry this one….. should be an interesting hearing if one is granted.

  99. LAX says:

    2:22 okay, retawd

  100. 3b says:

    Juice: We will decide our future, as per Jill Biden, very arrogant on her part in my opinion. But, if you follow the narrative now by some Democrats and some on this blog, we are behind Biden and he will not drop out and will win reelection. If that is the case , then going forward it will be how is the President, and the response will be well he has his good days and bad days, just the same as we might say for an elderly parent, or Aunt or other relative. That’s ok for them of course, but not for the President in my opinion. And as for your statement on who elects the President, that is correct, the 25 bucks from Joe Schmo means nothing, but they keep pushing for contributions from the little people. Everyday I get e mails from Joe, and Jill, and Hakeem, and Julia Robert’s and Jimmy Kimmel imploring me to send money to help Joe get elected. Sometimes the e mails can be a bit angry, other times disappointed that I won’t send money to save democracy. I get multiple e mails every day; some days as many as a dozen.

  101. No One says:

    Libturd,
    Drug costs represent about 9% of total US HC spending. That’s up from 7% in the 1990s. But we now have a lot more useful and better drugs than the 90s, when the big innovation seemed to be ED pills and anti-cholesterol drugs. (And if that’s all the pills you need now, then the cost of drugs have fallen dramatically since then, having gone generic). So however much you think drugs are overpriced, it’s mathematically impossible that drugs have played the major role in cost inflation.
    The whole point of ACA was to basically get more people that couldn’t afford insurance insured by embedding their costs into higher insurance costs for everyone else. Stealth redistribution program, with a few side features. People originally thought it was going to be bad for health insurance companies, but anecdotally, Humana earnings have soared subsequently, and it doesn’t seem like the govt healthcare bureaucracy or doctors have gotten poorer either.

  102. Hold my beer says:

    ACA

    Did nothing to address costs. No tort reform, no requirement for universal coding to make insurance claims easier to file and process by doctor offices. And it did nothing to lower the costs of medicine. Why are the newly popular weight loss drugs $93-$150 a dose in Europe but $1,000-$1,500 in the US?

  103. Juice Box says:

    3B – The main vehicle for funding is the Biden Victory Fund, it will run out of money if the rich do not keep donating. There are plenty of news stories that the rich are withholding funding now.

    This is the large PAC that the Biden folks control. Biden will be at another fundraiser tonight and many more as he will have to criss cross the country for these fundraising events. The rich want their Hors d’Oevres and a handshake and photo op, and since this isn’t 2020 Biden cannot hide in his basement and campaign like he did during Covid.

    The stress of campaigning has to be enormous, there are perhaps dozens of these fundraisers scheduled in ever major city. Will he make it to August 19th for the DNC convention?

    https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/eddie-bernice-johnson-for-congress/C00744946/summary/2024

  104. Libturd says:

    HMB/No One,

    Nobody pays $1,000. My doctor gave me samples for three months when my insurance company wouldn’t pay. We eventually found a way to get it coded so they would pay, since I’m not diabetic, but I pay $25 a month for Ozempic. Our entire healthcare system is as corrupt as our government. Due to D’s issues, I handle literally 1,000s of lines of XOBs a year. He’s sees doctors and therapists as much as often as Gary sees cuckoo birds flying around in circles. And the mistakes that people make paying their bills since they trust their providers. I could write a book. Last year was a fun for example. My insurance company sent me a check for 4K saying I payed for something I shouldn’t have (which I know I didn’t pay for). Then they send me a letter two months into this year saying, they overpaid me by that same amount and I have to write a check for them to maintain coverage. They didn’t laugh when I told them to give me two to three months to process your claim. I have a $2000 bill that Hackensack never sent. Many times I’ve been overbilled, double billed, or charged for things I have coverage for. This year BCBS of MN redid their portal making it impossible to export the data from your claims in any useful fashion. In order to check for errors in your copays/deductions, etc, you have to create a spreadsheet/database of your own manually entering all of those rows and columns from your XOBs. Hospital bills are no better. Apparently, the hospital bills you separately from the physicians. If you use an out of network physician (brain surgeon for example), you get a third bill. This confusion is intentional. In Costa Rica, you show your doctor/hospital/surgeon your Caja card and that’s it. No paperwork, no bills, no nothing. It’s socialized.

    NoOne, when ACA was announced, I had my best investing year ever, I looked up the largest healthcare insurer and loaded in. I knew a government exchange would simply drive more people into the private insurers since they would be managing the programming.

    The ACA made it more affordable for people who did not have the means to purchase insurance from private insurers on their own to be able to get it from the government since the private insurers didn’t want to offer lower rates to those not insured at work.

    As for drug company costs, they sell the same drugs to Mexicans for pennies on the dollar compared to what we pay. Sure they are not responsible much for the price increases. But they are definitely part of why our insurance is so high in the first place.

    If I was to venture a guess as to why insurance keeps going up, it is due mainly to hospital costs. I know what the insurance companies pay doctors and it’s criminal in most cases. Nurses are paid better than doctors in many hospitals unless of course you are a doctor who works out of that hospital. Just the cost of the rooms are phenomenal and singles are rapidly replacing doubles. Gator and I laugh at just the out of pocket costs between when Gator Jr. and the D were born. I think the former cost $40 and the latter $800. Same insurance coverage, just 7.5 year’s time.

    Want to see the nicest, most modern architectural structures in our country? Visit a new hospital or drug or insurance company headquarters. I used to drive forklifts for Pharma companies to pay for college in the Summer and over breaks. You literally could eat off of the floor of these warehouses.

  105. Libturd says:

    And there it is. 18K on the nasty. Joe must go!

  106. D-FENS says:

    https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1808207640708735032

    @PpollingNumbers
    #New General Election Poll – Leaked 🔵 internal

  107. 3b says:

    Lib: 18k and Joe must go? Come on man! You are better than that!

  108. 3b says:

    Juice: It’s all massive amounts of money, such a sham all around.

  109. Fast Eddie says:

    D-FENS,

    Don’t show that list to the dems, they’ll need to muster up a few more mules.

  110. leftwing says:

    On the money pay attention to what can be transferred from one candidate to another. Election laws permit certain transfers, not others. Reading but no time to find attribution/verify that the bulk of money raised to re-elect Joe can not be transferred to a new candidate.

    In other words, anyone new coming is at a significant spending disadvantage exactly at the time they need maximum reach of their [new] message.

  111. No One says:

    Biden is starting to remind me of King Theoden from the Lord of the Rings movie, except his decrepitude isn’t a spell put on him by Saruman.

  112. Fast Eddie says:

    JFK Jr. was on FOX earlier. He was talking about the threats of Russia and China, the fact that Russia has way more and better nukes than us and how we’re inching closer to a Bay of Pigs situation. He also said that the BRICs countries could potentially create the de facto currency dethroning the U.S. He also said we’ve lost our manufacturing ability which in the 1930s, enabled us to tool up and win WWII. He said it’s not the case now. Again, he made for compelling debate, agree or not, said nothing about Trump and just mentioned that O’Biden cannot lead at all.

  113. Fast Eddie says:

    RFK Jr. Ugh.

  114. 3b says:

    Fast: US satellite images show China is expanding its spying capabilities in Cuba.

  115. leftwing says:

    “Again, he made for compelling debate, agree or not, said nothing about Trump and just mentioned that O’Biden cannot lead at all.”

    Wow, a candidate running against Trump whose campaign has discernable policy changes, does not rely on fear-mongering, and is free of wild-eyed hypothetical doomsday scenarios if the opponent wins?

    Oh wait, I take that back….the Dems response to COVID has been front and center in their campaign since they handled it so well…and of course how could I forget the border too! So nice to see them on the news each night on point with those two success stories!

    /s for liberals here.

    The Dems and Left are pathetic….they literally have no platform except fear and loathing.

    DUHHHH-MMMAAAAAAA-CCCRRRAAAAAAAZZZZEEEEE is dying!!!!

    My new personal faves are we are going to live in a Christian Nationalist State and DJT will order the assassination of his domestic political opponents. I need to pick one for the new top spot on the top ten list of liberal idiocy.

    Fucking clueless morons.

  116. LAX says:

    6:24 have another drink rummy

  117. Libturd says:

    Leftwing. You are in a safe position. Trump can do no wrong.

  118. Fabius Maximus says:

    “As I have been saying the billionaires and millionaires decide who runs”

    In the same vein, the GOP love their ALEC.
    https://x.com/devery_mccain/status/1807864536789405811

  119. Fabius Maximus says:

    Well this would explain the worms in RFKs brain. I wonder if it was Kristi’s dog?

    https://x.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/1808129827162968288

  120. Juice Box says:

    Fab – no worries per MSNBC the smartest President Biden knows is sitting in on White House meetings.

    https://x.com/WesleyHuntTX/status/1808222778924941752

  121. Fabius Maximus says:

    Juice, Joe knows that he can never match St Ronnie!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p8cuN9Cv64

  122. Chicago says:

    1031. There are many options for the proceeds.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    July 2, 2024 at 9:12 am
    Ughh….such a tough decision. Sell the rental property now at peak price and pay the taxes now (bet that they raise taxes in the future), or deal with the f’ing headache of managing a property till the next cycle top. I am torn. Any opinions…

    It is good income at this point….maybe just suck it up. I just don’t want to deal with chasing people down for money when recession hits. Ying and yang with anything..

  123. Chicago says:

    Completely ridiculous comment. You don’t even know me, or my personal values, only the commentary here. Among other things, the ACA had nothing to do with Obama other than he signed it. I am also of the opinion that the ACA was a stunningly tone deaf piece of legislation tossed at the country in the aftermath of the financial crisis. We needed thoughtful leadership and received a cynical piece of garbage and sundry other detritus in the porkulus.

    Old realtor says:
    July 2, 2024 at 10:40 am
    The Affordable Care Act may be the most important legislative achievement of our lifetimes. How horrible to give credit to a Black man for such an achievement.

    The inability to give credit to Obama for this and other achievements is the same thing driving all the hate for Kamala Harris. You were raised in a racist society and cannot give credit for intelligence and achievement to black people, especially women.

  124. Chicago says:

    As an aside, I voted for Obama in 2008. In fact, I have never voted for a Republican for President, but would have in 2012, but I was out of my house for Sandy. 2020 I left the top of my ballot empty.

  125. leftwing says:

    “Leftwing. You are in a safe position. Trump can do no wrong.”

    You are so clueless.

    You guys, the Left on here, spent the last three years lecturing us and shouting down any level of rational discourse as us being ‘duped’.

    Meanwhile, as half the people sitting around the table here could see, YOU were the ones being duped all along.

    It’s laughable…you guys were cuckolded in the worst way possible…and still don’t get it.

    You are the dude telling all his friends how great your wife is and how you keep her so satisfied and meanwhile the rest of us are looking at you wondering how you could be so obtuse because she’s nothing like you described and a total whore. You find out in the worst way possible last Thursday night that *we were right* and you still keep up the facade that the problem is *us*, that your wifey is the sweetest thing possible, and that you are the stud. Despite walking in on her last Thursday taking one up the ass and another one deep throat in your bedroom.

    Yeah, WE are the problem. WE are the ones being duped…do everyone a favor…tuck your tail between your legs, close the bedroom door, and let the other dudes finish while you continue to live in your little bubble.

    Just save the commentary that WE are the ones being duped because given the circumstances it makes you sound like an absolute moron, which you otherwise are not.

  126. 3b says:

    Chgo: I voted for Obama in 2008. I bought the hope and change thing. Did not see much of that, just a lot of arrogance and lecturing. I voted for Romney in 2012. He was a successful governor in Massachusetts for 2 terms in spite of him being a Republican, plus he had a business background. The Left ridiculed him for his Mormon underwear and vilified him because he worked for Bain Capital.

  127. leftwing says:

    “…the ACA was a stunningly tone deaf piece of legislation tossed at the country in the aftermath of the financial crisis. We needed thoughtful leadership and received a cynical piece of garbage…”

    IIRC from that time it barely squeaked through on a Senate vote well past recess that was kept open to Christmas Eve on the back of the Left rallying cry of ‘do it for Teddy’, that fat privileged sexual predator fuck who passed away that Summer…

    In other words, the typical Left/Dem playbook…a power grab bereft of reason or logic enabled entirely by emotion.

    Cynicism barely comes close to describing that legislative debacle.

    So vote Blue this season, because “Democracy itself is at stake”, y’know….

  128. Traitorjoe says:

    Exactly, for the past few years all of the decay was just our lying eyes. All was well and we were being conned into believing otherwise. The rabble rousing mob who helped install a shattered bag of blood in the White House had it all figured out.

  129. SmallGovConservative says:

    Recall that Dem leaders gave up on the idea/importance of good governance decades ago, realizing that their constituents consisted primarily of hysterical, emotion-driven women who wanted government to ‘protect’ them, and toxically-feminized men (like those here) who likewise believe that life is difficult, that they may not have what it takes to make it alone, and want govt to be there to ‘help’ them. So it’s interesting to see some of those duds actually venture into policy-related topics, given that the modern Dem party is one big case study in policy failure, like this one…

    The Great Obamacare Enrollment Fraud – https://paragoninstitute.org/newsletter/the-great-obamacare-enrollment-fraud/

  130. 3b says:

    NY Times throwing Biden under the bus. They are reporting that Biden episodes like last week are increasingly common. His prep time for the debate everyday was not before 11: 00 AM, and nap time was built into every day of debate preparation.

  131. No One says:

    Chicago,
    You only voted for Obama because you’re racist and were trying to convince yourself you aren’t. Hope you learned that from your (scam) Implicit Association Test and your Robin DiAngelo books.
    https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/08/04/416827667/so-you-flunked-a-racism-test-now-what
    A test designed for you to always fail.
    But you can be saved by joining a victimized minority group.
    No wonder so many are signing up to be in one.

  132. No One says:

    3b,
    One group has just lost a power battle with another group within the left/media axis.
    I don’t know who they are. I think it had to do with those who had power thanks to manipulating the puppet who is Biden, and those who would take power in the Dem party. I don’t actually know if the Biden group is more or less leftist than the usurpers. Perhaps Kamala just jumped ship to the internal insurrectionists, deciding it’s better to run for Pres with their backing than to count on inheriting the throne from a dead Biden.

    The embarrassing thing is that the dems and media covered up and lied about Biden’s decrepitude too long, making whatever they say seem less trustworthy to the average person.

  133. LAX says:

    I find it hilarious that the Republican answer to good governance and old time masculinity is a guy who wears more bronzer than an instagram whore, who has never done an honest days work in his life and stiffed many who do, and who called those men who did serve “suckers and losers”. The MAGA faithful have a very twisted view of masculinity.

  134. Fast Eddie says:

    Joey Diapers now saying he almost feel asleep during the debate?

    Holy shit, the dems are a mess!

  135. Fast Eddie says:

    I think the dem supporters need to take a cognitive test, not President Vegetable.

  136. No One says:

    LAX,
    Do you trust everything that left leaning journalists write about candidates they want to lose?
    For example, do you still believe that the Hunter Biden laptop story was a Russian propaganda hoax and didn’t exist?
    Do you still believe in the “Nazis” are “very fine people” context-dropping hoax that now even Snopes gave up on?
    There are a million things to criticize about Trump that are all out in the open and verifiable.
    But rehashing the second-hand or verifiably false stuff, that’s being just a pawn in someone else’s game.

  137. TraitorJoe says:

    The suckers and losers hoax is one of the lamer ones. Desperate times I suppose to recycle that one.

    But otherwise, yea, he’s a slimebag. We like him mostly because he promotes American interests shamelessly and calls attention to the thoroughly corrupt nature of the political and expert classes who have sold us out.

  138. Fast Eddie says:

    Oh wait, now they’re saying the poor debate performance was caused by jet lag.

    Omg… lol. This is better than The Babylon Bee.

  139. Juice Box says:

    RutRoh…I wonder what this is for?

    Biden hosting a meeting tonight at the White House with the Democrat Govenors at 6:30 PM.

    https://rollcall.com/factbase/biden/topic/calendar/

  140. Hold my beer says:

    Juice 11:08

    Maybe they can watch Bob The Builder together with milk and cookies.

  141. 3b says:

    No One: I would have rather had Biden for 4 more years if it was possible than Harris. Now, that is what we will get on the Dem side. There is no way they will by pass Harris to pick someone else, and it’s only because she is a woman and person of color.

    So as much as the left says that Republicans picking Trump again to run was shameful, so was having Biden run again, and going back 4 years ago so was picking a check the box candidate like Kamala Harris. She has zero expertise in anything and talks nonsense. Not to mention the arrogance factor. What a sad state of affairs for our country.

  142. Juice Box says:

    Media is calling it an intervention, NY Times is calling it a “crisis” meeting….

  143. 3b says:

    In other news there is an article in the NY Post that says sleeping in the nude is healthier, and has all kind of benefits.

  144. LAX says:

    CNBC and Trump’s statement re: demonstrators

    https://youtu.be/JmaZR8E12bs?si=mKaTOYXq8FQG6mi6

  145. LAX says:

    “You had very fine people, on both sides”

  146. D-FENS says:

    No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists ‘Very Fine People’

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/

  147. 3b says:

    Feels like the get rid of Biden thing has taken on a life of its own.

  148. LAX says:

    12:04 f-ck snopes, Listen to the CNBC clip yourself.

  149. LAX says:

    FWIW the GOP has some of the dumbest people on the planet representing them. They’re overtly corrupt and pathetically power hungry and greedy. If you are looking to remake the Country in their image, have at it. But be careful what you wish for.

  150. Libturd says:

    My opinion on the “both sides” comment is this. Trump intentionally toes the line by making such statements because he uses hate to his advantage. It’s the same reason he invites evangelicals in to the White House to bless his term and the Oval Office as well as performs a photo opp in front of a church that asked him not to attend services there, holding a bible up. He knows that it will incite controversy. Same thing with his actions when he had Covid and removed his mask for photos, even though he risked the health of those around him. He is a bully and a terrible role model for the leader of the free world. Of course, Trump can do no wrong much like the rest of MAGA, so the MAGA fools will choose to look at these stunts in the best light possible. It’s like when Trump made fun of the disabled. The video is clear as day. A populist always will use negativity to rile up the base. Trump is a master at this skill. He has the couth of a West Nile Virus-carrying mosquito.

  151. Libturd says:

    https://youtu.be/PX9reO3QnUA?si=r9aNG4tfsQMKuwVj

    He’s all yours. Some elder statesmen. There was once a time when kids grew up hoping to be president. Now giant “Fuck Biden,” banners are appropriate for bedroom walls.

    This is what you are voting for. Of course, MAGA can do no wrong.

  152. leftwing says:

    “CNBC and Trump’s statement re: demonstrators”

    What the serious fuck is wrong with your basic comprehension? How the hell are you a teacher?

    https://youtu.be/JmaZR8E12bs?si=kKGdj6L8IvhIioZg&t=102

    “…and you had people, and I’m not talking about the Neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally but you had many people in that other than Neo-Nazis and white nationalists and the press has treated them absolutely unfairly…”

    https://youtu.be/JmaZR8E12bs?si=onTd28Yv1LJwe4XW&t=151

    Q: “Mr President, you were saying the press was treating white nationalists unfairly? I’m just trying to understand what you were saying? A: “No, no there were people at that rally and I looked the night before if you look they were people protesting very quietly taking down the statue…”

  153. leftwing says:

    “12:04 f-ck snopes, Listen to the CNBC clip yourself.”

    LOL, see above…teacher…smh

  154. No One says:

    LAX,
    I heard the whole discussion the day he said it. He said there were very fine people on both sides of the protests. Fact is, there were many non KKK people there protesting on the right, just as there were non-ANTIFA people on the left. He did not say all people there were very fine people, or that the people from the KKK were very fine people.
    This goes back to the ability to apply basic formal logic. You can say some humans are good without it implying that all humans are good.
    But Trump was being slippery, because he could have gone out of his way to condemn the KKK marchers that day, and he didn’t. That’s the proper angle for criticism, but lefty journalists and Democrats think their base are too stupid to get excited about such a nuanced criticism, and instead manufactured a fake statement (by eliminating context or injecting a false context) that even the mentally impaired can grasp.

  155. leftwing says:

    “There was once a time when kids grew up hoping to be president. Now giant “Fuck Biden,” banners are appropriate for bedroom walls.”

    And in the NASCAR constant left turns of your brain that is somehow an indictment of DJT?

  156. No One says:

    “I’m not talking about the Neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally”
    I forgot that he did say this. He could of course have gone harder into this, and probably should have. But yes, as I said above the “Nazis are very fine people” hoax is fake news propaganda, repeated by dotards like Joe Biden.

  157. leftwing says:

    “But Trump was being slippery, because he could have gone out of his way to condemn the KKK marchers that day, and he didn’t.”

    Again, not sure how this misses the mark….

    “…I’m not talking about the Neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally…”

    1:58 of LAX’s video…

  158. leftwing says:

    haha, typing at the same time One…

    signing out, you guys have fun and a good 4th!

  159. Libturd says:

    The media’s spin occurs on both sides of the political media. Fox claims Biden is a pedophile. The listener must be smart enough to decipher the truth. Only a bully intentionally draws himself into this kind of controversy. If not a bully, then someone who intentionally wants to divide. And I thought that was the MAGA complaint about Obama?

  160. LAX says:

    Calm down leftwing you insipid cunt.

  161. 3b says:

    According to the Guardian (US), the White House is denying reports that Biden is weighing whether or not to step down.

  162. Libturd says:

    It likely won’t matter.

  163. Libturd says:

    Even if Biden steps down, the inept and corrupt DNC will surely trot out who they think is next in line politically. Though this person will likely be fit for office, he/she won’t be compelling enough to persuade the swing voter. It’s gotta be a non-political person or bust. Especially with so much of the country convinced that the country is going to hell because Trump says it is with little data to show for it.

  164. Fast Eddie says:

    Especially with so much of the country convinced that the country is going to hell because Trump says it is with little data to show for it.

    – Homeless encampments on the streets
    – Smash and Grab
    – HBA products locked behind plexiglass
    – Real wages below inflation
    – Unaffordable housing
    – Record deficits
    – Illegals running rampant
    – No Transparency

    Carry on.

  165. Libturd says:

    – Homeless encampments on the streets
    What is Trump’s solution to this?
    – Smash and Grab
    This is largely over and hardly attributable to any policy changes besides bail reforms, which has mainly been fixed. I’ll give you this one, but not sure it was Biden’s policies.
    – HBA products locked behind plexiglass
    I can live with this.
    – Real wages below inflation
    Just slightly and it has been for as long as I can remember, which is a leading driver to the income inequity problem.
    – Unaffordable housing
    Biden has absolutely nothing to do with this. You saw what happened the last time the government tried to get a handle on it. The whole financial system nearly collapsed.
    – Record deficits
    Yes. This is an ongoing problem. Trump spent like a broken sailor too. Only he cut corporate income tax resulting in less revenue.
    – Illegals running rampant
    Running rampant all over the industries us American’s are too fat and lazy to work in.
    – No Transparency
    Nothing ever changes here. Trump is the first president to not reveal his taxes, locks out all media outlets who don’t kiss his ring, etc.

    You can come up with a better list than this for sure. I’m still waiting to hear a good answer on how Trump helped the middle class during his term.

  166. 1987 Condo says:

    Jaime Dimon as Conservator for the country?

  167. Libturd says:

    And now to prepare for our monstrous 4th of July party. Yeah, I know. Liberals aren’t patriotic and hate the country. I’m smoking two briskets. Making 6 racks of ribs and 20 pounds of Bourbon Glazed and Smoked Chicken quarters. Those who know me from here, who somehow aren’t doing anything tomorrow, are welcome to come. Email me and I’ll send you the deets. I’ll even let you witness the liberal remorse that will surely be dampening the festivities. Just be warned, we are accepting of all. :P

  168. Libturd says:

    Jaime Dimon as Conservator for the country?

    Yeah, I heard those threats too. Mentioned them here years ago.

  169. SmallGovConservative says:

    3b says:
    July 3, 2024 at 12:23 pm
    “Feels like the get rid of Biden thing has taken on a life of its own.”

    Interesting, but not at all surprising, that the Dems only concern is getting rid of him as nominee — not as president. Of course Joe is as unfit to be president right now as he is to be a candidate for November. But to reiterate, the Dems do not care about governance, they only care about holding power. It’s a shame, but look at the TDS-tainted stooges here who also, only care about the Dems holding power. Sheer stupidity!

  170. BRT says:

    Was in the mountains of New Hampshire last week. Saw a sign that said maple syrup for sale. Thought I was lost and was in some dudes driveway. I asked him if that was his sign and he said yeah, literally took me into his home to see his selection. Guns on the wall because he hunts. That’s the way it is out there. Very welcoming and friendly. In Boston 5 days earlier, very upscale part where the bombings happened. Saw people go into that trancquilizer I zombie trance in 2 seconds of shooting up. CVS had everything locked up with call buttons at the aisles. Yeah….this country is in a bad shape, especially the cities. If you have me choose , I’d choose the simple life in the New Hampshire mountains.

  171. Fast Eddie says:

    BRT,

    Stop pretending there’s same semblance of traditional America! It’s blasphemy! We’re all gender-less and equal now!

  172. Fast Eddie says:

    RFK Jr. on another extensive interview with FOX. Once again, sounding logical and grounded, a throwback to the halcyon days of presidential legitimacy.

  173. 3b says:

    Neiman Marcus and Saks to merge. Bob s Stores going out of business. John Deere laying off 600 people and moving some operations to Mexico. Of course, the CEO received 26 million in compensation for 2023.

    In other news I was in Home Depot, and they have started to lock up all the mowers, leaf blowers, power washers and other items. Some are behind locked cages, others have locks on the boxes, that have to be removed by an Associate, then you are escorted to the cashier to pay and remove the rest of the lock apparatus. I asked the guy unlocking what I was buying when did this happen, and he said about 6 months ago, as the theft is out of control. He also said they find empty packaging all over the store for other items, that people rip out of the packages and then stuff in their pockets or bags. I have seen this before in all the years I have been going to that Home Depot.

  174. 3b says:

    I should have said I have NOT seen this before at Home Depot in all the years I have been shopping there.

  175. 3b says:

    Amazon will become a minority investor in the new Saks/ Neiman company called Saks Global, and will provide technology and other support .

  176. LAX says:

    Nothing to see here:

    What do the new Epstein files expose about Donald Trump?
    The grand jury transcript mainly revealed the the notorious paedophile sexually assaulted two minor girls before cutting a plea deal. The transcript clearly showed how those two girls were later treated as criminals rather than victims. And now social media is flooded with court documents dated 2016 and some memos alleging Trump was a regular “massaging client” of Epstein and raped those minors.
    With new claims being made that Trump contacted Epstein multiple times between 2004 and 2006. These previously unseen screenshots were sealed in 2008 as part of Alexander Acosta’s deal for Epstein and were released for the first time by the State of Florida on July 1.

  177. Chicago says:

    This article is obviously false. Everyone knows Obama was solely responsible for the Affordable Care Act.

    https://nypost.com/2024/07/03/us-news/obamacare-architect-zeke-emanuel-floats-alternate-democratic-ticket-pick-the-two-you-like/

  178. LAX says:

    Can you imagine, “if” a Dem was caught messing around with pre-teen girls?

    But when the GOP candidate, ex-potus does it – well, that’s okay.

  179. OC1 says:

    – Real wages below inflation

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q

    It sure looks to me like “median weekly real earnings: wage and salary workers” are higher than ever today (except for the 2020 covid spike- when low paid workers lost their jobs but high paid workers worked from home).

    Am I reading the graph wrong?

  180. OC1 says:

    Was in the mountains of New Hampshire last week. Saw a sign that said maple syrup for sale.

    My brother makes maple syrup- he has a youtube channel and everything.

    Lotta work- don’t see how people make money on it.

    You have to boil down 40 gals of sap to get 1 gal of syrup.

  181. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Jim,

    Still want to mock my deflationary calls?

    “Federal Reserve Forecasts “AI Will Be Deflationary” To Boost Economy
    Artificial Intelligence (AI) may come in handy to revive the US economic inflationary woes according to Federal Reserve officials

  182. BRT says:

    Most small farms can’t really make much money on anything, be it maple syrup, strawberries, or blueberries, whatever. When I worked on a farm in Colts Neck, on a 1 acre plot we could get about 5,000 lbs of Raspberries. We grew black raspberries because they were rare and commanded premium price. We made it U-pick to make it easier, but people suck so bad at picking, you can end up spending 5 to 6 hours a day picking all the crap they missed. Then battling pests is a whole different issue. The big joke that farmers laugh at is the vegetarians that think they are saving the animals. Nobody kills more animals than farmers. Everything that comes onto the field is shot.

    It’s the large scale operations that make the money.

  183. BRT says:

    If ACA is truly to the benefit of everybody, we should force the illegals to purchase some health insurance upon entry.

  184. Jim says:

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    July 3, 2024 at 9:22 pm
    Jim,

    Still want to mock my deflationary calls?

    Pumpkin, you are an absolute idiot, your prediction was over two years ago….and you said it was starting then. Are you that stupid? This is your prediction quoted:
    The Great Pumpkin says:
    May 20, 2022 at 1:07 pm
    Inflation had to peak already…all deflationary now.
    You stated deflation started May 20, 2022. Now two years later your saying it is finally happened????? Two years and 2 months later. That’s not a prediction it is an absolute massive miss. Are you kidding or just plain ignorant….just asking for a friend.

  185. LAX says:

    Newsflash: The fake electors were an “official act”…. according to Trump.

  186. LAX says:

    An attorney for former President Trump suggested the so-called “fake electors” scheme qualifies as an “official act,” which would prevent it from being prosecuted under the recent Supreme Court ruling on presidential immunity.
    Trump attorney Will Scharf told CNN Monday night that some acts alleged in the former president’s federal election subversion indictment do constitute private conduct but the effort to put forth slates of alternate electors in 2020 from key battleground states is not one of them.
    “We believe the assembly of those alternate slates of electors was an official act of the presidency,” Scharf said, noting the Supreme Court left that question for lower courts to decide.

  187. BRT says:

    Deflation? Can we stop it already. Everyone was screaming it in 2008 and we’ve seen nothing but price increases across the board in every asset class for about 15 years straight. Nothing beneath the economy has improved in that time. Worse debt, lower real wages, inflation higher. The medicine is always inflation. It turns bad contracts into paid contracts.

  188. Fabius Maximus says:

    ““We believe the assembly of those alternate slates of electors was an official act of the presidency,” Scharf said, noting the Supreme Court left that question for lower courts to decide.”

    Actually, for all her faults Amy Coney Barrett explicitly called that out. He cant F around with the States.

    For example, the indictment alleges that the President
    “asked the Arizona House Speaker to call the legislature into session to hold a hearing” about election fraud claims.
    App. 193. The President has no authority over state legislatures or their leadership, so it is hard to see how prosecuting him for crimes committed when dealing with the Arizona House Speaker would unconstitutionally intrude on executive power.

  189. OC1 says:

    Nothing beneath the economy has improved in that time….lower real wages, inflation higher.

    This is simply not true. Real wages were pretty much stagnant 1980-2014ish, but since then they have been rising pretty steadily:

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q

  190. OC1 says:

    If ACA is truly to the benefit of everybody, we should force the illegals to purchase some health insurance upon entry.

    The ACA is the absolutely worst health insurance system- except for all the others that we’ve tried.

  191. Fabius Maximus says:

    So lets just clarify what happened with the ACA.

    Yes the OMan came in with “Hope and Change” and immediately ran into the “Party of NO (PoN)” led my Skelator (McConnell) and Bone Head in the house.

    O convened the meetings and asked the GOP what they wanted to start the negotiations. But PoN said “He11 NO”. They could have asked for anything, Tort Reform would have been low hanging fruit. So O had to go it alone.

    “But he had a majority in the Senate at the time, he could have passed anything!”
    We’ll yes and no. I think the composition of the senate was 58 Dems, 2 Ind (who Caucused with the Dems) and 40 GOP. But we all learned a new word “CLOTURE”. A small little word with a big impact. The debate could go on forever, but you need 60 votes to conclude the debate and take the measure to a vote.
    The GOP had 40 plus Joe Fcuking Liebermann. That see you next Tuesday, had a lot of Insurers headquartered in Connecticut and donating to his cause. The compromises to secure his vote is what watered down the Act.
    The fact that O got anything through should be applauded.

    The side note for this is the standard GOP hypocrisy where they railed against it, but still signed their states up to the Exchanges.

  192. Fabius Maximus says:

    Just finished fixing my upright freezer. Cost less than a service call and I learned a lot.

    Part that should have been the problem $30
    Part that was the problem $10
    Part I broke fixing the problem $66

    The good part is that the compressor is good and unless that goes we should be good for the next 10 years.

    The funny part is we caught the failure quickly while most stuff was still frozen. I had to start cooking and defrosting some things in the fridges, I had a lot of excess capacity in other freezers to salvage what was still frozen.

    So tomorrow (as Lib is doing) there is a load of meat heading to the Smoker. Ribs, Chicken, Pork Chops will be smoked, packaged, and refrozen. The soups I made in the past few days with the defrosted veg etc, will also go back.

  193. Fabius Maximus says:

    https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1808668563869253876
    Zelensky to Bloomberg News: “If Trump knows how to end this war, he should tell us today.” Then says if Trump intends to abandon them to the Russians if he wins, he wants to know now so he can prepare.

  194. Fabius Maximus says:

    After President Biden’s announcement about 20 minutes ago, CNN is desperately trying to strip their site of the lies they’ve told the last weekhttps://x.com/KellDA/status/1808563553420652624

    Unfortunately Chi keeps posting garbage from the “Dirty Digger!” NYPost site, so lets see who starts cleaning!

    Dirty Digger, The name for the Australian-born, born-again right-wing US newspaper proprietor and media tycoon Rupert Murdoch
    https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780199916108.001.0001/acref-9780199916108-e-2157

  195. Fabius Maximus says:

    Worth it for the last comment.

    Hopefully the 2024 RNC will have more diversity than in 2012.
    https://x.com/TheDailyShow/status/1808516427810304019

  196. Chicago says:

    Keeps posting from NY Post? I rarely do it.

    Also dirty digger? Oh such as Hunter Biden’s laptop?

    I follow NYC sports. The paper has the best content without peer. Anything else I read there is click bait. That said, when they stray away from editorializing, I find pretty much they are a leader in providing information that is generally suppressed.

  197. Old realtor says:

    On Christian nationalism… Louisiana is putting the 10 commandments in classrooms and Oklahoma is teaching the bible in public schools but there is nothing to Christian nationalism?

    Leftwing, this may be nothing to you, but I don’t view it through your lense.

  198. BRT says:

    I know, the outlook looks great on those numbers when you eliminate all the things that people actually purchase with their money from the calculation.

  199. OC1 says:

    I know, the outlook looks great on those numbers when you eliminate all the things that people actually purchase with their money from the calculation.

    It’s calculated using the cpi; nothings “eliminated from the calculation”. It’s based on a market basket of goods and services purchased by the average consumer. It includes food, gas, housing, medical care…

    The contents of that basket of goods and services is determined using extensive consumer surveys where consumers report what they actually bought.

  200. OC1 says:

    Oklahoma is teaching the bible in public schools

    In one of my english classes in high school, we did a section on the bible as literature.

    The only objection came from an evangical christian in the class who didn’t like that it was being taught as “literature” and not “god’s truth”.

  201. Chicago says:

    Oklahoma is a sinkhole.

  202. BRT says:

    That particular basket of goods claimed health insurance declined 35 percent yoy. The methodology has been changed on a monthly basis. That negates it from being an actual measurement of anything by definition. At this point it’s just a number for political purposes.

  203. Chicago says:

    Marko Kolanovic was sacked by JP Morgan. Wow. Wilson at Morgan Stanley has to be next.

  204. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Happy 4th!

    Greatest Fireworks show of all time.

    https://x.com/collinrugg/status/1808854011887636804?s=46

  205. OC1 says:

    That particular basket of goods claimed health insurance declined 35 percent yoy. The methodology has been changed on a monthly basis. That negates it from being an actual measurement of anything by definition. At this point it’s just a number for political purposes.

    BS. Measuring HI inflation is complicated because benefits vary so much between plans.

    for example, if everybody switched from a gold plan to cheaper high deductible plan, then the $$ that consumers spend on HI would go down. But that doesn’t mean that HI prices deflated; it’s just that people switched to cheaper plans that cover less.

    So the BLS uses a complicated, indirect method to measure HI inflation.

    The methodology is not changed on a monthly basis. It’s recalculated yearly (so there is a year lag in how it factors into the cpi).

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/17/why-health-insurance-is-poised-to-make-inflation-jump.html

    https://www.bls.gov/cpi/factsheets/medical-care.htm#A2

  206. LAX says:

    Happy Fooourth fellas

  207. Chicago says:

    “So, during Women’s History Month, we celebrate and we honor the women who made history throughout history.” Kamala Harris

  208. LAX says:

    I had Trump is a rapist and bonus,a pedo!!

    Biiiiiingo

  209. LAX says:

    Wrap your brain around that. You are voting for a guy that raped a twelve year old girl. Probably quite a few. There’s a special place in hell for you and everyone like you.

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