From NJ.com:
The property tax overhaul
New Jersey’s property tax breaks, including the popular Senior Freeze and ANCHOR benefits, could soon undergo dramatic changes as the state tries to keep its promise to further cut taxes for senior citizens under the Stay NJ law, according to recommendations released Thursday.
The long-awaited 101-page report comes from the Stay NJ Task Force,which was charged with figuring out how to implement the complicated and much-debated law in time for the 2026 deadline for when payments are scheduled to start.
Stay NJ, in conjunction with ANCHOR and Senior Freeze, is designed to slash property taxes by up to 50%, capped at $6,500, for senior citizens in New Jersey who earn less than $500,000 a year.
The recommendations, reviewed by NJ Advance Media, include a plan to simplify the state’s overall property tax break regime by having one application for all three programs, beginning early next year.
“A single comprehensive application along with consolidation of the programs in a sequential manner, followed by changes to how benefits are paid, should be accomplished in steps,” the report said.
But while the law also called for the task force to develop recommendations on how to fund Stay NJ, critics note the report does not include any new guidance on that.
Opponents from both sides of the political aisle have long warned that paying for the program — and even launching it at all — will be a tall challenge. The state has to reach several benchmarks and set aside more than $1 billion each year for Stay NJ payments to go out.
The recommendations that are included in the report would still have to be adopted by the state Legislature and signed by the governor to be implemented. They include:
- Complicated calculations: The bottom line is that senior homeowners would get 50% off their property tax bills, capped at $6,500, from a combination of Stay NJ, ANCHOR, and Senior Freeze. Also, no one would get less than they currently receive under ANCHOR and Senior Freeze together.
- Benefit calculation: The state Division of Taxation would compare a senior homeowner’s combined ANCHOR and Senior Freeze benefit to a Stay NJ benefit. “An applicant would receive the higher of the two, up to 50% of property taxes, not to exceed $6,500,” it said. If the senior homeowner has not received the equivalent of 50% of their taxes, up to $6,500, from ANCHOR and Senior Freeze combined, an additional benefit under Stay NJ would be paid by check. Homeowners not eligible for ANCHOR or Senior Freeze but eligible for Stay NJ would receive the maximum Stay NJ benefit of $6,500 or 50% of their property taxes.
- Checks, then credits: Because of the complicated nature of providing property tax credits through the state’s 564 municipalities, the Stay NJ benefit, rather than being paid as a quarterly credit, would be sent to senior homeowners as a check in the first year. The goal would be to make the Stay NJ payment a credit on tax bills in the program’s second year.
- One application: Residents would complete one application for Stay NJ, ANCHOR, and Senior Freeze effective Feb. 1, 2025, and legislation would need to be passed at least 90 days prior to make sure there’s time to design, print and mail the combined application.
- Changes to residency and age requirements: All three programs would require a full year of residency as of Dec. 31, 2024. New Senior Freeze applicants would need to be 65 as of Dec. 31, 2023.
- Streamlined income definition: ANCHOR and the Senior Freeze currently have different definitions of “taxable income.” These definitions would be made the same under all the tax break programs.
- Renters: Renters are not eligible for Stay NJ or Senior Freeze but would continue to receive the ANCHOR benefit via check or direct deposit.
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$500k income gets a tax break, and you get f*cked.
Welcome to NJ, f*ck you, pay me.
Trump spoke for ninety minutes a literally bored the shit out of everyone in attendance.
Managed to lie on every single point he tried to make. The Dems are going to boot Biden and elect a goldfish in his place.
Oh, hahahaha I see Trump’s ugly whore wife decided to leave her apartment and bask in the Epstein arranged marriage. The rubes are fawning over her. Hilarious
TDS is such a terrible bore. Mostly for the non sufferers. They follow every single thing he does and says and then drone on and on about it like the worlds going to end. Has he wiped his ass yet today?
Meanwhile your party elite are picking your candidate again behind closed doors. They don’t care what you think. You have nothing to say about that. Baaa.
Doesn’t matter comrade, your filthy pedophile fat-fuck cheater lies.
Anything is better than that. A n y t h i n g.
7:42 old dust farter lovrs Trump. Do you paint your face too? Does it make you feel young. Naw, feeble boomer. You’ll all die soon. Buh bye.
Once the World is rid of the Boomers, we’ll all be better off.
Signed, GenX
LAX: You are getting yourself all worked up. Trump wins or not life will go on. As for the Boomers and Gen X, as you are getting older , you are getting crankier like a Boomer.
I’ve disagree, that attitude got us a corrupt bag of blood and a word salad moron. We need competent people.
Competent at stealing and selling State secrets, buying judges, familial corruption?
Forbes news clip – Rutgers Professor “Presidential Historian” on the DNC options to nominate another candidate at the convention if Biden drops out before nomination. Again delegates are set to remote vote after August 1st before the convention. He would need to drop out before so the pledged delegates
from every state can have an open convention. Approx 4,000 delegates.
Could be allot of voting to get to 50%+ to choose another candidate at an Open Convention. They have about 186 on the rules committe. They could change the rules too…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxWicQhPYJw
So much for my CRWD positions.
2bd/1bth in Oakland, a town I really like but at just under 600k, this flip is a reach. Houses demand at least two baths now but again, who’s buying at this price?
https://www.trulia.com/home/77-page-dr-oakland-nj-07436-37980692
Worn and dated but at least touting that it’s a 4bd/2bth hovel. Dropping 10K from 595K is not going to make a difference. The early 80s look doesn’t help:
https://www.trulia.com/home/19-rockaway-ave-oakland-nj-07436-37979369
Pine Lakes in Wayne. If you’re into some rustic look, here’s your play:
https://www.trulia.com/home/85-algonquin-trl-wayne-nj-07470-39799435
AOC did an hour long Instagram last night. She claims that it will not be KAMALA…
Factions are forming now…Should be an interesting DNC convention if Sleepy Joe steps aside….
Here is a summary of her comments.
“If you’re falling out of a coconut tree, God bless you. If you’re riding with the President, God bless. I’m not an open-convention person. I think that is crazy.”
– “If they’re going to come out and say all their little things on background, off the record, but they’re not going to be fully honest, I’m going to be honest for them. I’m in these rooms. I see what they say in conversations,”
– “I’m just going to say it: If you think that there is consensus among the people who want Joe Biden to leave… that they will support Vice President Harris, you would be mistaken. They are interested in removing the whole ticket.”
– “Maybe I’m being too risk-averse. Maybe I’m not seeing what other people are seeing. I leave space for that. And like, whatever. Like, maybe I’m taking a big L.”
– “I’m not here to tell you that if Joe Biden is the nominee, he’s definitely going to win because I don’t think if anybody is the nominee, we’re definitely going to win. I’m here to tell you that a huge amount of the donor class and a huge amount of these elites and a huge amount of these folks in these rooms that I see that are pushing for President Biden to not be the nominee also are not interested in seeing the Vice President being the nominee.”
– “That’s bullshit. If you have an opinion, say it with your chest and say it in public. That’s a bunch of horseshit.”
“The mechanisms by which this decision is being made is concerning me. When I’m talking to folks in rooms, I hear, ‘My donor this, my donor that.’ Those are the inputs that I am hearing reflected by my colleagues, it’s not, ‘My voters this, my voters that.'”
– “And you know, like, oh man, like, you’re a neolib, sellout careerist. I mean, if I were here to sell out, I’d be making — there are much more profitable, peaceful ways, I assure you.”
Juice,
Was she speaking English or Mashed Potato?
I think her peas and carrots are buried somewhere.
Juice: I still think it’s shitty what the Dems are doing to Biden. They are ruthless.
3b – They are saving Democracy!….Throwing an elderly man under the bus even though 15 million party members voted for him in the primaries is of no consequence, unless well Sleepy Joe does not step down…..
Curb stomp boomers and let Melania be.
Separately, I see IKON – the 3D home printing startup – built out its site and product offering. It’s a massive site app download thing but once running there’s quite a bit of product to choose from both build and ready made buy. I see the found a way to smooth out the beehive printed concrete walls with plaster, which are sold as an upgrade. Some interesting designs @ https://codex.iconbuild.com/
When I’m talking to folks in rooms, I hear, ‘My donor this, my donor that.’ Those are the inputs that I am hearing reflected by my colleagues, it’s not, ‘My voters this, my voters that.’”
It’s all the left has been about for years. Using the production class’s tax dollars to toss crumbs for votes has been their strategy for years.
LAX 7:13 am, man, I think you are better than that…
You were super-pleased with 100 million contribution from Musk just the other day.
Parents watching their kids’ little league games are much less biased towards their team than this.
Lax, Once the World is rid of the Boomers, we’ll all be better off.
The more world changes, the more it remains the same. We may become the very things we dislike as we age and have nothing but anger and regrets. Instead of just enjoying watching a little league game, we will shout at the “biased” refs, and boo kids and parents on the other team.
re: “super-pleased with 100 million contribution from Musk.”
Nope…. PACs and their monied interest need to go away. We need to take money out of politics. A large majority of citizens when surveyed something like 80% of U.S. adults say that there should be limits on the amount of money individuals and organizations can spend on political campaigns.
Right now independent political expenditures by corporations are judged violations of the First Amendment and have NO LIMITS. Corporations can buy all the free speech they want. Individuals are limited to$3,300 per election.
Because of the Citizens United Supreme Court ruling in 2010 we now need an amendment to the U.S. Constitution, not an easy task, as thirds of the members of each chamber of Congress would have to approve a constitutional amendment and then it would go to the States where 70% of them would have to ratify it.
We probably won’t live long enough to see it.
The Dem establishment always their candidates, with or without primaries.
When was the last time there was a contested presidential primary in NJ? Hasn’t most everybody dropped out by the time it gets to us?
I may be wrong (i’m registered independant, so I don’t get to vote in the primaries) but I can’t remember a primary where NJ mattered.
Juice: I still think it’s shitty what the Dems are doing to Biden. They are ruthless.
I see it more as tough love.
If Biden did somehow mange to win, we would still have to deal with the issue of his mental decline at some point over the next 4 years. It’s not going to get any easier.
When AOC emerges as your voice of reason then you’ve gone is the deep end. That upcoming debacle in Chicago should be quite a spectacle.
We’ll be fine. At least we won’t be wearing a tampon on our ears
Ear Tampons For Jesus!!!!! Praise our Orange Mushroom Dicked Savior,
Buncha fuuuuuucking imbeciles. Truly.
You’ve been up and at it on here since 4am local time brother.
Might be time to take a break by the pool and enjoy the early morning?
OC1: No, its shitty. Tough love would have been to tell Biden at least a year ago it was time to move on, one term an done.All the people that are turning on him now,including Obama, Pelosi , Schiff, and the celebrities, all went along with the charade that Biden’s mental capacity was fine, and the concerns about Biden were all Republican/right wing inspired, and or exaggerated.
Now after the debate, its like OMG, Biden has to go, or we are going to lose. So now push the old man out, and select Harris I presume. And all the Democrats that voted for Biden in the primaries will have their choice overturned by the Democratic power brokers in the background.
Fast: At least AOC mentioned voters, as in perhaps they matter. Just saying.
If Biden did somehow mange to win, we would still have to deal with the issue of his mental decline at some point over the next 4 years.
At some point, it’s been going on for 2 years, and the signs were there before the presidency even started.
“All the people that are turning on him now…all went along with the charade that Biden’s mental capacity was fine, and the concerns about Biden were all Republican/right wing inspired, and or exaggerated.”
I actually feel badly for the old coot….I’ve dealt with mid-80s adults in his shape and the level of real angst on not understanding their surroundings is high.
Here, it is exponential….the huge buffer around him protected him from any real outside viewpoints and told him everything was just fine…and then immediately overnight it was not.
Hard for anyone to process, let alone someone in a diminished state…guy’s got to be in some kind of mental spin cycle right now…
I mean, he’s a cheap political hack and a complete POS as is most of his family and this world would have been better off without him but still…I’m human and have some empathy for inevitable pain and confusion he’s feeling and not capable of processing.
Biden was a completely different guy 2 – 3 years ago.
But Trump has been a pant shitting drama queen his entire life.
I love how you moralists rally around a pedophile.
1:08 aren’t you the guy who hasn’t voted in 20 years!
LAX: I don’t really see anyone rallying around Trump on this site. And, I think maybe there are 2 or 3 real Trump supporters on this site. That said, it is shameful what the Dems are doing to Biden right now.
Will there be more rioting and chaos inside or outside the Chicago convention this year?
I think it was incredibly selfish, arrogant, and unpatriotic for Biden and his team to run for reelection. It was very obvious he was in rapid decline mode over a year ago. He should have made a speech last year announcing he wasn’t seeking reelection. There could have been primaries and let the voters pretend they get decide. Now we will get to see how the dems make their sausage
Ever since the debate I’ve been shocked at how poorly Biden has performed. He has literally not found his footing at all in anything. I think the only thing that went well was the speech the very next day. It speaks volumes. It is really sad to see him circling the drain.
That said, he is a stupid bastard and always has been. Fucking asshole.
OC1 says:
July 19, 2024 at 12:05 pm
Juice: I still think it’s shitty what the Dems are doing to Biden. They are ruthless.
I see it more as tough love.
If Biden did somehow mange to win, we would still have to deal with the issue of his mental decline at some point over the next 4 years. It’s not going to get any easier.
Left: I think you are being rough on Biden, I would not call him a POS, that’s harsh. But, I would say an empty suit and a career politician, who for whatever reason was able to remain in Washington after his lies during his presidential run in the 80s. He should have retired after his stint as VP for Obama. Personally, as a human being I feel sympathy for him, the loss of his first wife and young daughter in a car accident, then the loss of his Son Beau, who from what I have read was a good man, unlike his coke head brother, and so Biden has had his personal heartache. It’s got to be bewildered now to him that all these people who fed him the BS that he was doing great and all is well, are now throwing him under the bus. It’s politics I know, but the Democrats are certainly not the kinder gentler party as they portray themselves to be. They are ruthless.
Dear Democrat Voters,
Your 14,000,000 primary ballots no longer apply. Our big donors are telling us no more money until we find someone savvy enough to dupe you again. So, just do as your told. Remember, we need to save democracy!
Sincerely,
Satan
Republicans are now really just the Trump Party, based on what I saw at the convention.
The only positive thing I can say about Trump was that his own desire to win led him to nix most of the anti-abortion stuff in the platform, turning it into a “leave it to the states” as the only real Republican stance.
Overall, it was a populist convention, with very little substance on policy. Lots of promises, not much detail. More about people adoring their Dear Leader, professing a love of country, yet mostly divorced from American principles. Of all the Republican conventions I’ve watched over the decades, this one really minimized the use of terms like freedom and liberty, presumably the old intellectual segment of the Republican party that’s been cast out.
Trump is still a gross mercantilist, without any kind of principles. Vance is an inexperienced VP, speaks well, but who has clearly been brought over to the dark side of bigger-government nationalist collectivist policies.
Both the Democrats and the Republicans want big government now, they just are fighting to steer government to help/hurt different pressure groups.
I almost want an oily snake like Gavin Newsome to win after seeing the Republican convention, if only to dissociate the Republican party from the Trump cult of personality and xenophobia. I don’t know what the party would look like without him. But I think the IQ of the Republican party may have permanently dropped 10 points.
3b,
They are ruthless.
It’s beyond that. I said they’d sell their mother for the power, position and money. I wasn’t kidding. They’re just a sales pitch… a 1,000 HP stump grinder that will pulverize objects and people that stand in their way.
I think it’s reading the Tea leaves and maneuvering.
Businesses do it all of the time. This election is rife with
misinformation and a mix of stupidity and hubris.
I love how the “fuck your feelings” crowd now has the feels for Biden.
My thought is that they are praying he stays in the race. If we field a younger, more viable candidate with more appeal to a broader cross-section of the Country, I am fairly certain that we’ll beat Drumpf.
Eddie,
Is that a 1000HP stump grinder or Kamala’s newest dildo?
No One,
Both are made by Binford Tools and use a variation of the truck-two style Cardan Shaft. So, I’ll assume that’s a ‘yes’.
DNA, 28 cents
DNA down 97% over the past 5 years. How many times did Pumpkin average down?
And now, some real estate:
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/835-Hughes-Dr-Hamilton-NJ-08690/38968120_zpid/utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare
835 Hughes Drive, Hamilton NJ
Revelation 13:3
King James Version
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
LAX, 15 years ago, I looked at a home a few doors down from that Barbie house.
No One,
if you kept track of his calls it started out
1. Buy AAPL, AMZN, not much intuition there but good for a 50% bump over time.
So starting out, 100k, turns into 150k.
2. Then it was all 5 ARK Funds. On average, that was good for a 70% drop. So now we’re down to 45k
3. Bet the house on DNA. He started buying at 10 but I’ll give him some benefit of the doubt and go at a price of $4 when he got loud. 93% drop. Account would be down to $3k
After the ARK fiasco, I told him I don’t believe he bought it for one second because he would have completely lost his account. I was right. But had you taken all of his “awesome calls”, you’d have a 700k mortgage on a 2nd home in Wayne and your investment account that started out at $100k would be down to about a single month’s mortgage payment.
Good points.
Remember that Reagan lowered taxes but increased the deficit.
All republican presidents have increased the deficit.
Dick Cheney said that Reagan proved deficits don’t matter
No One says:
July 19, 2024 at 2:04 pm
Republicans are now really just the Trump Party, based on what I saw at the convention.
The only positive thing I can say about Trump was that his own desire to win led him to nix most of the anti-abortion stuff in the platform, turning it into a “leave it to the states” as the only real Republican stance.
Overall, it was a populist convention, with very little substance on policy. Lots of promises, not much detail. More about people adoring their Dear Leader, professing a love of country, yet mostly divorced from American principles. Of all the Republican conventions I’ve watched over the decades, this one really minimized the use of terms like freedom and liberty, presumably the old intellectual segment of the Republican party that’s been cast out.
Trump is still a gross mercantilist, without any kind of principles. Vance is an inexperienced VP, speaks well, but who has clearly been brought over to the dark side of bigger-government nationalist collectivist policies.
Both the Democrats and the Republicans want big government now, they just are fighting to steer government to help/hurt different pressure groups.
Why is Microsoft escaping blame here? The Crowstrike CEO has been out there on CNBC and media defending his company for pushing a bad file, sure the pushed a bad file that causes a null memory error, but it’s Microsoft’s Operating System and it crashed. Macs don’t crash like that, and pretty much ever other operating system can handle a bad file or memory error.
The most valuable company in the world Microsoft has been building and selling Windows for 40 years now. In all that time they have failed to create a reliable enough operating system that will not crash when a bad file is loaded. Thank god they aren’t using that Microsoft Windows to run aircraft computers and instead use operating systems that are much more stable and secure.
Crowdstrike is another successful operation run by the kremlin to infect all our computers. Just like the so called attempt, Putin is planting false flags all around and single handedly winning the Cold War.
Yes the Kremlin secretly runs an Austin Texas based public traded company.
You are maybe thinking of Kaspersky Labs? The one banned last month by the Biden Adminstration?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqq7663wd2o
Nice F-15 Airstrike for the IDF in Yemen, blew their entire port up.
You cannot fly 2,000 miles round trip refueling……This is a prelude to an Attack on Iran too. They have the range to pull it off it seems..
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-releases-footage-of-f-15s-prepping-for-yemen-airstrikes/
Years ago macOS deprecated kernel level access by installing and managing system extensions that run in user space rather than at the kernel level.
This kind of crash won’t happen on a Mac….F -MSFT
Love the viral clip of Melania dodging Trump’s anus lips when he leans in for a kiss!
Hilarious
Just an immigrant taking a job an American doesn’t want.
Lol – not endorsing any of the candidates?
Zuck?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgWFwVRGcf4&t=1s
Zack Wilson is have a family party at Pazzo in Red Bank. My son’s friend is bus boy at their table. The kid is a big Giants fan, but is kissing his ass.
Juice,
I give Microsoft a pass on this. They have always said dont F around down at that level. If you do you really need to know what you are doing. Here is a nice explanation of what went wrong.
https://x.com/Perpetualmaniac/status/1814376668095754753
I spent a lot of my early days tracing memory leaks at that level. I was always taught to malloc and free, initialize everything and test your boundaries. Coders get cute and realloc and crap over the adjacent locations and kill another part of the program. This is no different. One simple null check and 8 billion devices are still online.
I’ve had roles at every level of the development lifecycle but need to dive into the nuts and bolts of this functionality. I’m very lean on this knowledge.
Sleepy Joe Defiant, headed out on the campaign trail.
Sleepy Joe Defiant, headed out on the campaign trail.
Like Ray Liotta in the end… 25 years of service and all he had to show for it was a few grand and Paulie turning his back.
Joe should come out and tell all and fuck Obammy, the Clintons, Pelosi and Schumer real good. Call all these scumbags out.
Fast: A couple of the Dems supporters here are having trouble, accepting that what they are doing to Biden is shitty, so now they are justify/ rationalize it.
As for replacing Biden with Harris, this is not the winning candidate that people might vote for. And, of course the Dems will tell us , Harris has come in to her own, and she is ready to lead, when the reality is she is not.
Joe blew it. Fuvk him
This guy puts up some amazing diamonds in the rough on his stockcharts page. You’ll note most charts are weekly. Either everything is melting up, or he has a knack for finding things that bounce back.
h**ps://stockcharts.com/public/1130973/tenpp/1
LAX: You throwing your boy Biden under the bus too. You had to have known he was declared, but like others you ignored it or dismissed it.
Eat a dick fool.
Maureen Dowd
Everyone wants Joe Biden gone.
Even the people who don’t want him gone really want him gone.
Everyone’s waiting for Joe,” said one top Democrat. “And he’s sitting at home, stewing and saying, ‘What if? What if? What if?’ We’re doing things the Democratic way. We’re botching it.”
I have many happy memories of Rehoboth Beach. I went there growing up and have Proustian recollections of crispy French fries with vinegar sold on the Boardwalk. But now my gladdening images have been replaced by a maddening one: President Biden hunkered down in his house there, recovering from Covid, resisting talking to anyone who will tell him the truth, hoarsely yelling, “Get off my beach!” at the growing list of Democratic lawmakers and donors trying to warn him that he is pulling down his party and the country.
It makes me sad that Biden doesn’t see what’s inescapable: If he doesn’t walk away gracefully right now, he will likely go down as a pariah and ruin his legacy.
The race for the Oval today is between two delusional, selfish, stubborn old guys, and that’s a depressing state of affairs.
As for those D.C. careerists surrounding Biden who a) hid his true condition; b) gaslighted the press for focusing on what they called a nonexistent age issue; c) shielded the president from the truth about his cratering chances of winning; and d) seem to have put their self-interest first?
One way or the other, they’ll probably be out of their jobs soon.
Shockingly, even as the Republicans roar out of Milwaukee, vibrating with joy, Biden’s brain trust continues to run a lousy campaign, as though nothing has changed. Jennifer O’Malley Dillon, Biden’s campaign chair, went on “Morning Joe” Friday to say that the polls aren’t as bad as they are, that Biden is “more committed than ever” to running and that, when 100,000 homes got a knock on the door this past week, 76 percent of the respondents “are with Joe Biden.” Then, as Alex Thompson reported for Axios, Dillon went from cable news to a rah-rah call telling staffers not to pay attention to cable news because “the people in our country are not watching cable news.”
On the same day, Kamala Harris suddenly joined a call to reassure donors, but donors are in full flight.
At the convention, I went to a “Policy Fest” held by the Heritage Foundation — the folks devising the extreme Project 2025 — and their vision for America is very creepy and retrogressive.
Democrats should be alarmed thinking about Donald Trump with a Republican Senate promoting Judge Aileen Cannon to the Supreme Court.
This is already over. Democrats and journalists have moved on to other questions: Will Biden throw his support to Kamala or ask for an open convention? Would Kamala agree to be on an all-femme ticket with Gretchen Whitmer? Can a candidate other than Kamala play with the pot of gold now designated for Biden? Would the amazing ratings of a gladiatorial Democratic contest and an open convention drive Trump out of his mind? (Yes!!)
Tony Fabrizio, a Trump pollster, told reporters this week that not only does the campaign have an ad blitz about Biden’s debate brain freeze ready to go, but it also has primo oppo on Kamala. “Rest assured,” he said, “we are 100 percent ready.”
But Republicans are nervous about a Dem ticket swap. Tom Cotton posted that it would be a “coup.”
Biden has a right to be sniffy about some of the elite Democrats who want him out. Even if Barack Obama stopped messing with his Netflix money and came to Delaware to tell Biden to go, Biden wouldn’t listen. He’s still bitter that Obama pushed him aside for Hillary in 2015, so he doesn’t want to hear from either of them. Obama always seems to be leading Joe off the stage — even at that glossy Hollywood fund-raiser — and Joe resents it. He doesn’t want to have that awful feeling like he had in 2016 when he watched Trump beat Hillary, after he had stepped aside.
Now CNN reports that Biden is “seething” at his old friend Nancy Pelosi, the most respected person in the party, because he thinks she’s coordinating a campaign to force him out. Pelosi’s longtime pal in the California delegation, Zoe Lofgren, put out a letter Friday urging Biden to step aside, and New Mexico Senator Martin Heinrich and Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown, who is sure to bring others with him, also joined the chorus.
It’s true that Pelosi has played Madame Web in this crisis, initially trying to create a silky web that would caress Biden out of the race, and only getting tougher once he resisted. She has been sitting with her maps of the political world, working the phones and doing her head counts.
She loves Biden — he was more grateful for her help than Obama was and more effusive in his praise — but she loves the House more. She refuses to let the president burn it down for the sake of his ego and make it easy for Trump to slouch back to Washington with messianic, vengeful dreams.
Given that Biden said it would take the Lord Almighty to make him drop out, I have no doubt that Pelosi has been using their shared Catholic faith to guilt-trip the president into understanding the stakes, and what she thinks the Lord Almighty would want. Certainly, she might have said, she doesn’t like Trump claiming, as he did this week, that the Lord Almighty is on his side.
Really, what the Democrats need is a thrilling open convention, rather than a coronation. Trump just had one of those, after all.
LAX; Your anger confirms my point.
If you aren’t angry you are not paying attention.
LAX: Your anger is misplaced.
If you aren’t angry you are not paying attention.
Oh, some of us are indeed angry and are paying very close attention.
Here’s how it will go: Carmalla gets the node, all media outlets point to a reborn candidate, a newly grizzled veteran, sensing the pulse of the people. She’ll be the obvious choice to counter the naz1 Trump, to quell his project 25 agenda and to give all a voice in saving democracy. “Woman’s Reproductive Rights” will be the number one priority, a nation-wide push to rid misogamy. rac1sm and sex1sm. The message will be to quell the evil Trump and prevent him from becoming dictator. All liberal media sites and magazine covers will illustrate a smiling Kanella, her desire to lead, her resolve, her resiliency and a new face for “freedom”. The media will shove it down our throats and the lesser IQ muppets will once again, fall for the ruse.
node = nod
Biden done….per WSJ and other news sources, he is dropping out.
Tweet from Sleepy Joe…..
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1815080881981190320/photo/1
Fast: Dems won’t win with Harris.
Juice: Like I have been saying, I feel bad for Biden. Nasty, ruthless treatment by the “kinder gentler party”
3B – Kamala made the donors wait 20 minutes on a conference call on Friday. 300 big money donors, said she had full confidence they could win with Sleepy Joe.
Gonna be a shit show now…. How about Phil Murphy for Pres?
Elon
“I heard last week that he would resign at this exact time and date. It was widespread knowledge in DC.
The real powers that be are discarding the old puppet in favor of one that has a better chance of fooling the public.
They fear Trump because he is not a puppet.”
The dems should nominate Oprah. She’s articulate, popular and actually built a successful business. They’d win Virginia and Georgia, probably Pennsylvania too and maybe a few other swing states.
Elon can’t contain himself.
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Juice: Donna Brazille former acting DNC chairperson said a couple of weeks ago, that if Harris was passed over for nominee for President, Black voters would be disenfranchised, so Harris must be chosen because she is Black ( and Indian), not necessarily because she is qualified which she clearly is not.
Biden just endorsed Harris as his real, I don’t know if that’s a blessing or a curse for Harris. In my opinion Dems won’t win with Harris as the nominee for President.
3b – 4,000 pledged delegates have to vote. All of these people are led by their states party leaders. They will be told who to vote for…Don’t expect it to be clean, and if they change the rules to select Kamala?
3b / Juice:
“Harris must be chosen because she is Black ( and Indian), not necessarily because she is qualified which she clearly is not”
She has been the VP, Senator, and State Attorney General. Let’s wait and see. Maybe other people are ready to treat women with more respect than they did in 2016.
Libturd says:
July 18, 2024 at 12:11 pm
Well it looks like the two presidents, Schumer and Pelosi have talked Biden into stepping down. I am guessing the announcement will be on Saturday. Whoop dee doo.
Again, we know who ran the country the past 4 years.
Someone: That is my point, you would think she would be qualified due to her experience, but her performance over the last 3 years demonstrates she is not. She has no real knowledge on any particular subject matter, and that too has been demonstrated over these last years. She has had massive turn over in her office as well including her top aid who was a personal friend, and the reasons, difficult to work with, and her aides spent countless hours trying to prepare her on different subject matters before speaking at public event/ news conferences trips overseas, and she blew them off, just tried to wing it. Her Presidential campaign crashed and burned in 2019 in three weeks.
It has nothing to with her being a woman or Black/ Indian ethnicity. She is not qualified. We have listened to the press dismiss Biden’s mental decline over these last 3 years as exaggerated or right wing talking points, when it was clear to any honest person Biden was in decline. Will it now be the press telling us Harris is completely qualified to be President, and it’s just simply sexists/ racists saying otherwise?
“In my opinion Dems won’t win with Harris as the nominee for President.”
Not the point.
They’re down 6-1 at the end of the first period in a three game series. You don’t have your starting goalie (Newsom, Whitmer, etc) out there just to get pummeled and hurt.
You write off this game (Pres) without saying it out loud, and play for next two (Sen/House).
The reason Kamala is successor is not just because THEY couldn’t pass HER over without causing angst or the money, but also because any real Presidential candidate wouldn’t touch this nomination with a ten foot pole, it’s political suicide.
I said it here after the debate when everyone was speculating, being the person to replace Joe at this point in the process is the ultimate suicide pass (being generous here calling the current shitshow a process)…LOL, Newsom nearly knocked six people down getting to the mic to be first to express ‘100% support for Joe’….that’s secret decoder ring language for “don’t even fucking think of me for this go-around…”
Kamala is the third string, seventh round draft pick goalie…slap her on the ass, send her into the game, she’s going to get undressed in net, and she’ll be back down in the minors in 40 minutes…Coaches on the bench (DNC) are already drawing up the plan for the next two games as this one painfully winds down and the home crowd throws shit on the ice and leaves early…
“Will it now be the press telling us Harris is completely qualified to be President, and it’s just simply sexists/ racists saying otherwise?”
LOL, abso-fucking-lutely of course!
What in the world else would you expect?
You goddamn racist pig!
Lefty.
Your valid explanation plays into my reasoning why the only way Trump can lose is if the Dem nominee comes from outside of the political circle. An actor or business pro has little to lose.
Naw Harris is fine. She’ll eviscerate Trump in a debate and mobilize a ton of women and more than a few people of color to vote. You want tough? You got it. A sharp mind, a strong speaker. She’ll choose a white guy from a swing state as a running mate and we’re off to the races. Trump’s vocal yokels will squirm thinking of her. They’ll be really angry when they lose. Plenty of people who hate Trump will turn out.
LAX: Sharp mind and strong speaker?? Seriously?? Think you need to take it easy on the weed.
Try voting before you start playing the expert. On anything political.
Kamala making Barr look like the bitch he is:
https://youtu.be/bHd_UlebyoM?si=GaT6q0ADiTPBWUGe
What a shit show the Harris Trump debate will be assuming she gets the nomination. Harris does not have a clue on any topic, except abortions, and Trump will do his Trump thing , half truths, falsehoods, some bragging etc. I still say I’m the end Trump will beat her in a debate, because as little as he might know or understanding, he knows and understands far more than Kamala Harris does. She should have been keeping those reports her aides prepared for her over the years . We had two old men with big egos, now we have one old man arrogant and a big ego, and a younger female also with a big ego and arrogant, and ill prepared to be President.
LAX: Let’s get Kamala talking about the economy, interest rates, Ukraine/ Russia, China/Taiwan, Inflation, and a host of other topics . She is clearly clueless on all of these. Dems sitting her up to lose.
Trump sure looks old doesn’t he. Wonder if all these wandering speeches are a sign of dementia?
Let’s get Kamala talking about the economy, interest rates, Ukraine/ Russia, China/Taiwan, Inflation, and a host of other topics
“I’ll get these issues solved on Day 1 and America is going to be in the best shape ever. All the experts everywhere say that I am the smartest person. They never ever expected a woman to be this smart.” — still better than DJT’s response on these.
Someone: Why the deflection? I have noted repeatedly that Trump is a bs artist etc. Why not answer the question regarding Harris? For these last few years with the Dems it was what about Trump? Now your party has dumped Biden and it’s Harris as the nominee, I ask a serious legitimate questions regarding Harris and her knowledge and competency in critical issues and it’s still what about Trump? The Dems claim they are the party of adults and competency, and yet it’s what about Trump.
What if Trump died during the assassination attempt? What would happen to MAGA? Who would step up? Does MAGA even exist without Trump?
5:47 Jersey won’t go for Trump neither will CA, so all of your concerns are moot.
5:47 picture the dumbest people you know and then go lower. Think of the most racist and hyper religious moron living somewhere in the middle of nowhere. Behind on child support, driving $100k truck and living in a $90k home. Think of the very bottom of society. The uneducated and superstitious fool who is twice divorced and behind on child support. A person who is wondering why their tiny community was left behind any rising tides. There you’ll find your Maga.
3b, early days and Kamala may be well already well versed on high level talking points, especially on things routinely asked on media. On things that need a lot of detail, she may be able to handle things better than Hillary did since may not know too much detail and hopefully will delegate.
I remember Sanders grilling Hillary on committing to increase FICA on all incomes, and she was trying to explain why it is difficult to achieve, and that she will sign if congress sends a bill to her (instead of saying “yes”). I’d give Kamala a chance and hope to see more of the current course (investments in infrastructure, pharma costs down, rent controls, and maybe some restrictions on speculative purchases of homes by corps/foreign companies). Trump can become a footnote…
all opinions aside on Trump, one thing he doesn’t look or act is old. Guy has a ton of energy. He’s at UFC events at 1 am when I can’t stay awake for them at home. He gets shot in the ear and tackled by Secret Service and pops back up and puts his fist in the air.
The DNC had plenty of viable options over the years from the outside. Mike Bloomberg comes to mind. Howard Shultz… They all ganged up and eliminated them right away. And if you even bring them up, our resident lefties immediately pick out every little flaw in those candidates while completely ignoring the mountain of flaws someone like Harris comes with.
6:21 He’s obese, paints his face orange, rambles incoherently and lies with every sentence. Dumbass
Someone: That is a stretch after 3 plus years you now expect people to believe that Harris is now knowledgeable and well versed in all the subjects I pointed out? All her past performances indicate that would not be the case. At the bottom of the pile when she ran in 2019, and her campaign crashed and burned in 3 weeks. Constantly embarrassing herself in her speaking engagements, totally clueless on any subject matter over the last 3 plus years, and now just like that she is well qualified to be President. I would have preferred 4 years of Biden and have the country run by whoever has been running it, than Harris. The thought of Harris as President is scary. At least with the lunatic Trump we know what to expect if he wins again.
6:46 you get dumber and dumber with every post. My IQ drops just reading your moronic drivel.
3b, The thought of Harris as President is scary. At least with the lunatic Trump we know what to expect if he wins again.
Do you think Harris lacks in experience (I don’t particularly agree with that)? In relation to DJT’s?
Anyways, early days. One advantage with Kamala is that there is no “cult” for her, and anything she wants to achieve will take consensus building. With DJT, it will be whatever he wants will get done and we may even see a SCOTUS Judge Eileen Cannon (GWB tried to Myers into SCOTUS and there was a push back. With DJT, there won’t be).
pot use can cause dementia and schizophrenia. Anger outbursts are an early warning sign of both.
If there is no open convention how are we to interpret all the pious talk of a threat to our Democracy? Is it as Elon says an undemocratic selection now happening inside the DNC a veritable coup to install their next puppet?
7:04 two things come from texas — steers & queers
According to CNN’s Jamie Gangel, these are the names Kamala Harris is considering to pick as her running mate:
-Arizona Senator Mark Kelly
-Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear
-NC Governor Roy Cooper
-Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro
7:56
Reread my post at 7:04.
Also lack of original thoughts and comments could be a sign of dementia too. Or just a bitter poser.
A one term disaster of a presidency… but forget that. Vote for us again, democracy depends on it!
“My anger is on a global level, not a personal level.”
Lydia Lunch
8:54 you have lost the plot.
LAX, 8:54: this has been the case ever since Obama became POTUS. Better that he vents out the pain on a forum instead of other ways…
Manchin wants to re-register as a DEM and run, while recommending names of Beshear (KY) and Shapiro (PA). What is his beef with Biden’s agenda of Infrastructure, college loan forgiveness, and lower medical costs? They will help lower income people explore better jobs by giving some financial cushion.
8:28 dumbass
How about wetter and wetter?
https://youtu.be/52nmHqf-FZY?si=V11urVxskqvhFBxt
LAX says:
July 21, 2024 at 6:51 pm
6:46 you get dumber and dumber with every post. My IQ drops just reading your moronic drivel