Price growth slowing, but not here

From Mansion Global:

U.S. Home Sellers Are Getting More Flexible on Price as Market Stalls

U.S. home buyers faced a less competitive market in January amid a sluggish activity, according to a Redfin report Wednesday. 

Homes took longer to sell than usual, and with the biggest average discount on their asking prices in two years. Homes in most metros sold under asking, with Florida properties selling at the largest price reductions. 

In January, listings idled on the market for an average of 56 days before going under contract—the longest in the last five years, according to Redfin. 

“The upside of a slow market is that buyers have an opportunity to negotiate on price and terms for certain homes,” the report said. “Redfin agents in some parts of the country report that it feels like a buyer’s market.”

The average home sold for 2% lower than its full asking price in January, the steepest markdown since the start of 2023, the report noted. 

Sellers who have struggled to close are “open to lowering the price,” the report wrote.

Stubbornly high mortgage rates compared to the pandemic-era lows paired with inflated home prices have slowed the U.S. housing market and last year, led to the lowest level of transactionssince the 1990s. 

But a slower market is not a surefire buyer’s market.

Charles Wheeler, a Redfin Premier agent in San Diego, said that the homes sitting on the market are often in “unpopular neighborhoods or require renovation.”

“Relatively affordable, move-in ready homes close to highly rated schools are selling quickly, often with multiple offers,” he said.

Only seven of the 50 most populous U.S. metros recorded average sales above asking price, led by the pricey Bay Area in California. The average home in Nassau County in New York and Newark, New Jersey, also sold above list price in January.

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168 Responses to Price growth slowing, but not here

  1. Chad Powers says:

    1

  2. Fast Eddie says:

    Charles Wheeler, a Redfin Premier agent in San Diego, said that the homes sitting on the market are often in “unpopular neighborhoods or require renovation.”

    Wow, this guy is brilliant!

  3. Chicago says:

    This is no different than the mayor of Tirana Albania thing I posted.

    Hold my beer says:
    February 13, 2025 at 10:12 pm
    I wonder how common this is

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/13/us-news/epa-head-lee-zeldin-reveals-no-real-oversight-of-shocking-20-billion-waste-biden-administration-funneled-through-citibank/

  4. Very Stable Genius says:

    Ya’ll said Biden wasn’t “really in charge” and then Trump handed presidency to Elon Musk

  5. Chad Powers says:

    We were notified this week of a tenant not renewing their lease in 2026. They occupy five floors of an older commerial building downtown in a mid size city and are the major tenants of the building that we have 25% ownership of. Finding a replacement to occupy that much space is likely difficult in the current economy which is probably going to get worse. If everyone agrees we might put the building up for sale. The parking garage there has some problems as well and the real estate market is down right now so not a good time to sell. The other problem is what to do with the money if we do sell it.

  6. Very Stable Genius says:

    Order to Drop Adams Case Prompts Resignations in New York and Washington.

    The interim U.S. attorney for the Southern District and five officials with the federal public integrity unit quit after the Justice Department ordered charges against Mayor Eric Adams to be dropped.

  7. Very Stable Genius says:

    The ferocious campaign, executed by Emil Bove III — Mr. Trump’s former criminal defense lawyer who is now the department’s acting No. 2 official — is playing out in public, in real time, through a series of moves that underscore Mr. Trump’s intention to bend the traditionally nonpartisan career staff in federal law enforcement to suit his ends.

    That strategy has quickly precipitated a crisis that is an early test of how resilient the norms of the criminal justice system will prove to be against the pressures brought by a retribution-minded president and his appointees.

    On Thursday, the interim U.S. attorney in Manhattan, Danielle R. Sassoon, resigned rather than sign off on Mr. Bove’s command to dismiss the corruption charges against Mayor Eric Adams of New York. Ms. Sassoon is no member of the liberal resistance: She clerked for the conservative Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia, and had been appointed to her post by Mr. Trump’s team.

  8. Chad Powers says:

    Very Stable Genius,
    Yes I read about those resignations. It appears that the Deep State is slowing unraveling. Those attorneys with oversight of NYC are probably some of the most politicized in the system.

  9. Phoenix says:

    First kids, now cats. Geez what message is the man in the sky sending to these cretins?

    A pastor in Arkansas has been accused of drowning cats after police found animal traps and dead animals inside his home.

    Charles Thessing, 63, was charged on Tuesday with two counts of aggravated animal cruelty on Tuesday after he was accused of trapping and drowning cats.

    Thessing had been a priest at St Michael Church in West Memphis.

    Police searched Thessing’s home where they made the troubling discovery of two dead cats that appeared to have been drowned in a tank of water found on the property.

    They also found animal traps, presumed to have been used to capture the cats.

  10. BRT says:

    Didn’t you guys do like a half dozen celebration dances that Trump was going to jail. When’s that happening again?

  11. Phoenix says:

    That strategy has quickly precipitated a crisis that is an early test of how resilient the norms of the criminal justice system.

    No VSG, it’s not a criminal justice system

    It’s a criminal LEGAL system.

    Justice has nothing to do with it. For that you need Luigi. Or this guy

    https://www.tmz.com/2025/02/13/bill-burr-says-billionaires-should-be-put-down-like-rabid-dogs/

  12. Phoenix says:

    I’d like to see the last 10 presidents as a human centipede.

    BRT says:
    February 14, 2025 at 7:50 am
    Didn’t you guys do like a half dozen celebration dances that Trump was going to jail. When’s that happening again?

  13. Phoenix says:

    ‘Conception Begins at Erection’ Act,

    Haha.

  14. Juice Box says:

    Little mentioned is Sassoon was on the job for three weeks. Her claim to fame is prosecuting Sam Bankman Fried.

    Her replacement is now a seasoned prosecutor Matthew Podolsky who has been at the SDNY for a decade.

    President Trump has the power to make the Eric Adams case go away, just like he has the power to pardon, just like he can yank a prisoner out of jail and give them to another country. Resign if you don’t like the orders as is your prerogative. Suggesting the president should pre-pardon Adams? Since when are you a trusted advisor to the president?

    BTW – I like Bove’s response to her letter, she was totally out lawyered by Bove.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/13/politics/read-acting-us-attorney-resignation-letter-doj-response/index.html

  15. Fast Eddie says:

    I’m trying to figure out in this one why it’s snowing and the sky is blue:

    https://www.trulia.com/home/150-glen-ave-midland-park-nj-07432-37963554

  16. MakeAMoveAgainstTurds says:

    Chad,

    What to do with money? Well, give it to me.

    Try Permanent Portfolio theory. 25% each of stocks, bonds, gold, cash. There is a mutual fund with same name and high fees or you can use ETFs that does the strategy.

    About the Adams prosecution, the next move is for NY Gov Huchel to remove Adam’s as NYC mayor. It takes await the raison d’etre for OrangeTurd action, as next mayor will not cooperate with ICE.

  17. Juice Box says:

    Ed that outdoor fireplace? Ugly as sin and probably too close to the neighbors garage.

    https://www.trulia.com/home/150-glen-ave-midland-park-nj-07432-37963554?mid=26#lil-mediaTab

  18. SmallGovConservative says:

    Chad Powers says:
    February 14, 2025 at 7:39 am
    “We were notified this week of a tenant not renewing their lease in 2026. They occupy five floors of an older commerial building downtown in a mid size city…”

    Chad, some questions out of curiosity, and if you don’t mind providing a bit more info…
    – How did you come to own 25% of a multi-story, downtown commercial building? Did you personally make this investment, or has this building been owned by your family and passed to you?
    – When did you acquire ownership?
    – How much does the pending loss of this tenant affect the sales price of the building? Assuming the building has already lost some value post-COVID, what do you estimate the peak, pre-COVID value of the building was?

  19. Phoenix says:

    Government lawyers fighing each other using thousands and thousands of taxpayer dollars. How much money is spent on just those two documents?

    Yeah, that sounds efficient. Where is Elon and his gang of minions to erase that waste?

    And other legislators putting up an erection act? Don’t you have anything better to do?

  20. Phoenix says:

    That whole outdoor patio looks like it was made with leftover materials from a building supplier that went belly up.

    Juice Box says:
    February 14, 2025 at 8:53 am
    Ed that outdoor fireplace? Ugly as sin and probably too close to the neighbors garage.

    https://www.trulia.com/home/150-glen-ave-midland-park-nj-07432-37963554?mid=26#lil-mediaTab

  21. 3b says:

    Fab: The NY Times report said the contents were thin and sketchy, even The NY Times could not defend it, and that’s what I mean when I said illustrative purposes. Even The NY Times could not rationalize and defend the contents of the dossier. You cannot have it both ways, but you do try.

  22. Libturd says:

    From Crossing Wall Street (Non Partisan)…

    It’s starting to dawn on Wall Street that the Federal Reserve is losing its battle against inflation. On Wednesday, the government reported that consumer prices rose by 0.5% in December. That was 0.2% above expectations, and it was the largest monthly jump in 17 months.

    The year-over-year inflation rate has increased each of the last four months. Shelter costs in particularly are being stubborn. Over the past year, shelter prices are up by 4.4%.

    How about eggs? In January, egg prices rose by 15.2%. Over the last year, eggs are up 53%.

    On Thursday, the S&P 500 rallied above its recent trading range. The index is currently less than 0.1% from the all-time high reached three weeks ago. I’m tempted to say that the market is walking on eggshells, but that may be too expensive these days.

  23. Very Stable Genius says:

    and those kids will not have access to Boomer’s maoist universal healthcare

    Phoenix says:
    February 14, 2025 at 8:32 am
    ‘Conception Begins at Erection’ Act,

    Haha.

  24. Fast Eddie says:

    In that Midland Park house, I can imagine the neighbor’s fire alarms going off when they light that outdoor fireplace. It was sold for 375k last September and listed at 649k, down from 689k. Let’s cover up those bad spots. At the current list, you need 130k down and the PITI will be around $4,400 for the month. But the insult here is the listing tour guide was too lazy to do anything about the falling snow/blue sky pictures.

  25. Chicago says:

    Ten 446.

  26. Phoenix says:

    If the neighbors complain cut up some old tires and burn the scraps in the damn thing.

    This is America. A man’s home is his castle, and his alone.

  27. 3b says:

    Fab: Republican hell as you call it but you choose to live there , so it can’t be that bad. You assume the people living in these towns just can’t bring themselves to vote for a Democrat, perhaps, or perhaps they did not like what the Democrats had to offer. You mention Emerson and Alpine as two outliers, and then dismiss the rest, and say Harris had Bergen co, she did in the end, but certainly not a sweep. There were other north Bergen towns that Trump won too, including Franklin Lakes, where Trump won by a significant margin, and then Allendale, where Harris won by, by a hundred odd votes out of just under 4K cast. My point in this exercise was to point out that contrary to what some on this site believe, it was not just the ignorant and uneducated that voted for Trump. You seem to acknowledge that now perhaps reluctantly, and now it’s well they are horrible people who don’t give a damn about their fellow man. So all Democrats good , all Republicans bad.

  28. 3b says:

    Lib: Silly Fed, they were lowering rates when they should have continued to raise rates.

  29. RortyWasSpotOn says:

    From VOX.

    A prescient passage from a forgotten book made the rounds after Donald Trump’s election. It was plucked from a 1998 book titled Achieving our Country. The author is Richard Rorty, a liberal philosopher who died in 2007. The book consists of a series of lectures Rorty gave in 1997 about the history of leftist thought in 20th-century America.

    To read the viral passage is to recognize immediately why it caught fire after Trump’s election:

    Members of labor unions, and unorganized unskilled workers, will sooner or later realize that their government is not even trying to prevent wages from sinking or to prevent jobs from being exported. Around the same time, they will realize that suburban white-collar workers — themselves desperately afraid of being downsized — are not going to let themselves be taxed to provide social benefits for anyone else.

    At that point, something will crack. The nonsuburban electorate will decide that the system has failed and start looking for a strongman to vote for — someone willing to assure them that, once he is elected, the smug bureaucrats, tricky lawyers, overpaid bond salesmen, and postmodernist professors will no longer be calling the shots.
    Today, Rorty’s words read like prophecy. Something has cracked. People have lost faith in the system. A strongman is upon us. So what happened? Over the course of three lectures, Rorty proffers a theory. He traces the history of the modern American left to show where, in his view, it lost its way, and how that digression prepared the way for the populist right. The story he tells is compelling, detached, and often oddly romantic. But it’s supremely instructive, even when it sputters.

    The best way to make sense of Rorty’s argument is to follow it chronologically. He sees the American left as split into two camps: the reformist left and the cultural left. The reformist left dominates from 1900 until it is supplanted by the cultural left in the mid-1960s. The division has more to do with tactics than it does principles, but those tactical differences, for Rorty at least, carried enormous consequences.

    Here’s the case he made twenty years ago.

    American philosopher Richard Rorty (1931 – 2007) in Oxford, May 7, 2003.
    American philosopher Richard Rorty (1931 – 2007) in Oxford, May 7, 2003. Steve Pyke/Getty Images
    The reformist left
    “I propose to use the term reformist Left,” Rorty wrote, “to cover all those Americans who, between 1900 and 1964, struggled within the framework of constitutional democracy to protect the weak from the strong.” The emphasis on constitutional democracy is paramount here. Reformists believed in the system, and wanted to improve it from within.

    Before the 1960s, the American left was largely reformist in its orientation to politics. Think of the people who engineered the New Deal or the Ivy-educated technocrats that joined Kennedy in the White House. John Kenneth Galbraith, the liberal economist and public official who served in the administrations of FDR, Truman, Kennedy, and Johnson, is a favorite of Rorty’s. These were the liberals who weren’t socialist radicals but nevertheless worked to promote the same causes within and through the system. They were liberal reformers, not revolutionary leftists, and they got things done.

    The reformist left was a big tent. It included people who thought of themselves as communists and socialist as well as moderate left-of-center Democrats. What united them was a devotion to pragmatic reform; there were no purity tests, no totalizing calls for revolution, as was common among Marxists at the time. But they were “feared and hated by the Right” because they gave us the fundaments of the modern welfare state.

    The reformers had their flaws. FDR, a classic reformist liberal, delivered the New Deal and encouraged the growth of labor unions, but he also shamefully ignored the interests of African Americans and interned Japanese Americans during WWII. Lyndon Johnson did as much as any president to improve the lives of poor children, but he also doubled down on the unjust and illegal war in Vietnam. The Harvard technocrats in the Kennedy administration were complicit in countless horrors in Vietnam. But they also created lasting domestic policies that advanced the cause of social justice.

    Rorty admired the reformist left both because they were effective and because they understood that the key dividing line between the left the right in this country was about whether the state has a responsibility to ensure a moral and socially desirable distribution of wealth. The right rejected this proposition, the left embraced it.

    The reformist left “helped substitute a rhetoric of fraternity and national solidarity for a rhetoric of individual rights.” They proposed a counter-narrative to the libertarian right, which fetishized the individual and made a virtue of selfishness. The idea was to convince Americans that America was best — and closest to its moral identity — when it turned left, when it sacrificed, when citizens imagined themselves as participants in an intergenerational movement.

    Such an orientation didn’t entail a blind spot for America’s sins. “America is not a morally pure country. No country ever has been or ever will be,” Rorty wrote, but “in democratic countries you get things done by compromising your principles in order to form alliances with groups about whom you have grave doubts.” The left made tremendous progress in this way.

    It accepted, as Rorty put it, that the inequities of American society had to be “corrected by using the institutions of constitutional democracy.” And that meant acquiring power, taking control of institutions, and persuading people with whom you disagree. It was not enough to speak truth to power; elections had to be won and coalitions forged if you wanted to get things done.

    This spirit of pragmatism held the American left together until the 1960s. The focus was on improving the material conditions of Americans by winning elections and appealing to national pride. Economic justice was considered a precursor to social justice. If the system could be made to work for everyone, if you could lift more people out of poverty, socio-cultural progress would naturally follow.

    Or at least that was the idea.

  30. RortyWasRight says:

    The cultural left

    The focus of leftist politics changed in the 1960s. For Rorty, the left ceased to be political and instead became a cultural movement. The prevailing view was that it was no longer possible to promote equality and social justice within the system.

    The Vietnam War, more than anything else, set the left on its new trajectory. The war was seen as an indictment of the whole system, of America as such. Thus the broader anti-communist Cold War become a central fault line for left-wing activists. Led largely by students, the new left regarded anyone opposed to communism — including Democrats, union workers, and technocrats — as hostile.

    America was viewed, increasingly, as a failed promise, a malevolent empire beyond redemption. Of what use is reformist politics in such a context? Rorty elaborates:

    For if you turn out to be living in an evil empire (rather than, as you had been told, a democracy fighting an evil empire), then you have no responsibility to your country; you are accountable only to humanity. If what your government and your teachers are saying is all part of the same Orwellian monologue – if the differences between the Harvard faculty and the military-industrial complex, or between Lyndon Johnson and Barry Goldwater, are negligible – then you have a responsibility to make a revolution.
    It’s not that these sentiments were wrong; America was, for much of the country, a failed promise. The racial divide was real and socially engineered. The war in Vietnam was an inhuman sham. There was something deeply troubling about the structure of American society. Rorty disputed none of this.

    From his perspective, the problem was the total rejection of pragmatic reform. The belief that there was nothing in America that could be salvaged, no institutions that could be corrected, no laws worth passing, led to the complete abandonment of conventional politics. Persuasion was replaced by self-expression; policy reform by recrimination.

    There was a shift away from economics towards a “politics of difference” or “identity” or “recognition.” If the intellectual locus of pre-’60s leftism was social science departments, it was now literature and philosophy departments. And the focus was no longer on advancing alternatives to a market economy or on the proper balance between political freedom and economic liberalism. Now the focus was on the cultural status of traditionally marginalized groups.

    In many ways, this was a good thing. The economic determinism of the pre-’60s left was embarrassingly myopic. Most of the gains made by the left in the early and mid-20th century went to white males. “The situation of African-Americans was deplored,” as Rorty notes, “but not changed by this predominantly white Left.” The plight of minorities and gay Americans and other oppressed groups was an afterthought. This was a moral failure the cultural left sought to correct.

    And it did this by “teaching Americans to recognize otherness,” as Rorty put it. Multiculturalism, as it’s now called, was about preserving otherness, preserving our differences; it doesn’t oblige us to cease to notice those differences. There’s nothing morally objectionable about that. As a political strategy, however, it’s problematic. It reinforces sectarian impulses and detracts from coalition-building.

    The pivot away from politics toward culture spawned academic fields like women and gender studies, African-American studies, Hispanic-American studies, LGBTQ studies, and so on. These disciplines do serious academic work, but they don’t minister to concrete political ends. Their goal has been to make people aware of the humiliation and hate endured by these groups, and to alienate anyone invested in that hate.

    Rorty doesn’t object to these aims; indeed, he (rightly) celebrated them. The cultural left succeeded in making America a better, more civilized country. The problem, though, is that that progress came at a price. “There is a dark side to the success story I have been telling about the post-sixties cultural Left,” Rorty writes. “During the same period in which socially accepted sadism diminished, economic inequality and economic insecurity have steadily increased. It’s as if the American Left could not handle more than one initiative at a time — as if it either had to ignore stigma in order to concentrate on money, or vice versa.”

    Meet The Press
    Former US presidential candidate Pat Buchanan at a 2007 taping of Meet the Press. Alex Wong/Getty Images for Meet the Press
    The left’s focus on cultural issues created an opening for the populist right, for people like Pat Buchanan and Donald Trump, who galvanize support among the white working class by exploiting racial resentment and economic anxiety. Rorty explains:

    While the Left’s back was turned, the bourgeoisification of the white proletariat which began in WWII and continued up through the Vietnam War has been halted, and the process has gone into reverse. America is now proletarianizing its bourgeoisie, and this process is likely to culminate in bottom-up revolt, of the sort [Pat] Buchanan hopes to foment.
    Racial animus is baked into the founding of America; it exists regardless of what the left does. But Rorty’s point holds: By divorcing itself from class and labor issues, the left lost sight of its economic agenda and waged a culture war that empowers the right and has done little to improve the lives of the very people it seeks to defend. Rorty’s advice to the left was to pay attention to who benefits from such a strategy:

    The super-rich will have to keep up the pretense that national politics might someday make a difference. Since economic decisions are their prerogative, they will encourage politicians of both the Left and the Right, to specialize in cultural issues. The aim will be to keep the minds of the proles elsewhere – to keep the bottom 75 percent of Americans and the bottom 95 percent of the world’s population busy with ethnic and religious hostilities, and with debates about sexual mores. If the proles can be distracted from their own despair by media-created pseudo-events…the super-rich will have little to fear.
    Big business benefits most from the culture wars. If the left and the right are quarreling over religion or race or same-sex marriage, nothing much changes, or nothing that impacts wealth concentration changes. Rorty is particularly hard on Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, both of whom he accuses of retreating “from any mention of redistribution” and of “moving into a sterile vacuum called the center.” The Democratic Party, under this model, has grown terrified of redistributionist economics, believing such talk would drive away the suburbanite vote. The result, he concludes, is that “the choice between the major parties has come down to a choice between cynical lies and terrified silence.”

    Rorty’s concern was not that the left cared too much about race relations or discrimination (it should care about these things); rather, he warned that it stopped doing the hard work of liberal democratic politics. He worried that it’s retreat into academia, into theory and away from the concrete, would prove politically disastrous.

    Immediately after the now-famous passage about a future “strongman,” Rorty offered yet another disturbing prophecy:

    One thing that is very likely to happen is that the gains made in the past forty years by black and brown Americans, and by homosexuals, will be wiped out. Jocular contempt for women will come back into fashion. The words ‘nigger’ and ‘kike’ will once again be heard in the workplace. All the sadism which the academic Left has tried to make unacceptable to its students will come flooding back. All the resentment which badly educated Americans feel about having their manners dictated to them by college graduates will find an outlet.
    If this were to happen, Rorty added, it would be a calamity for the country and the world. People would wonder how it happened, and why the left was unable to stop it. They wouldn’t understand why the left couldn’t “channel the mounting rage of the newly dispossessed” and speak more directly to the “consequences of globalization.” They would conclude that the left had died, or that it existed but was “no longer able to engage in national politics.”

    And they would be right in at least one sense: On a purely political level, the left would have failed.

    Author and Poet Walt Whitman
    Author and Poet Walt Whitman ullstein bild / Getty Images
    “Achieving our Country”
    “Democracy is a great word, whose history, I suppose, remains unwritten, because that history has yet to be enacted.” -—Walt Whitman

    There’s much to dispute in Rorty’s endogenous critique of the left. To begin with, his distinction between the reformist left and the cultural left is overly simplistic, as is his discussion of the compatibility of these projects. It’s also unclear how neatly the left, as it’s constructed today, fits into Rorty’s binary distinction. Much of his argument stands, but the political landscape has changed dramatically.

    Rorty is also strangely sanguine about the race question. There’s a causal connection between the injustices of the past and the injustices of the present that makes history impossible to avoid. And one could argue that Rorty fails to appreciate just how entrenched racism is in this country.

    At times, moreover, he seems to imply that the cultural strides made by the post-’60s left could have come about another way, and yet it’s never clear how. And if, as he admits, the gains of the pre-’60s left fell mostly to white males, was a revolt not justified?

    There is, finally, Rorty’s praise of the reformist preference for working within the system. His point that this is how things get done in a constitutional democracy is well-taken, but the strategic value of such an approach has to be reexamined in light of the public’s weakened faith in that system. Confidence in the institutions of government has fallen precipitously in recent decades. Trump, after all, was elected precisely because he threatened to explode the system. As a matter of strategy, then, it’s not clear that Rorty’s argument holds. At the very least, it was more compelling in 1998 than it is today.

    Nevertheless, Rorty’s vision of an “inspirational liberalism” is worth revisiting. He liked the idea of reform because it signaled a process. The first of his three lectures is devoted to John Dewey and Walt Whitman, both of whom, on his view, personified American liberalism at its best. These were pragmatists who understood the role of national pride in motivating political change. They understood that politics is a game of competing stories “about a nation’s self-identity, and between differing symbols of its greatness.”

    The strength of Dewey and Whitman was that they could look at America’s past with clear eyes, at the slaughter of Native Americans and the importation of slaves, and go beyond the disgust it invoked, beyond the cultural pessimism. They articulated a civic religion that challenged the country to do better, to forge a future that lived up to the promise of America. In Rorty’s words, they recognized that “stories about what a nation has been and should try to be are not attempts at accurate representation, but rather attempts to forge a moral identity.”

    Both the Right and the left have a story to tell, and the difference is enormous:

    For the Right never thinks that anything much needs to be changed: it thinks the country is basically in good shape, and may well have been in better shape in the past. It sees the Left’s struggle for social justice as mere troublemaking, as utopian foolishness. The Left, by definition, is the party of hope. It insists that our nation remains unachieved.
    In this dynamic, the right is “spectatorial and retrospective,” and the left seeks to mobilize Americans as agents of change. The right exalts and papers over America’s past, the left acknowledges that past but enjoins Americans to take pride in what the country might become.

    A candidate like Trump upends this dynamic: He’s both a nostalgia candidate (“Make America Great Again”) and someone who describes America as a carnage-filled hellscape. But Trump is an outlier; his victory represents a negation of the entire system, not a fundamental shift in how the right talks about America. It’s possible that Trump’s rise does signal such a shift, but it’s too soon to make that determination.

    In any case, Rorty’s pitch to liberals stands, and it starts with the symbolism of the phrase “Achieving our Country.” The words are borrowed from James Baldwin, the great novelist and activist, but Rorty read them through a distinctly Nietzschean prism. Much of Rorty’s scholarship was influenced by Nietzsche, and his political philosophy was no different.

    Nietzsche conceived of life as literature. A human life is necessarily an act of self-creation, and if it’s a good life, it’s also one of constant self-improvement. This is how Dewey and Whitman imagined America. It was a story being written in real-time by citizen-activists. Here’s Rorty on Whitman one last time:

    Whitman thought that we Americans have the most poetical nature because we are the first thoroughgoing experiment in national self-creation: the first nation-state with nobody but itself to please — not even God. We are the greatest poem because we put ourselves in the place of God: our essence is our existence, and our existence is in the future. Other nations thought of themselves as hymns to the glory of God. We redefine God as our future selves.
    Rorty’s discussion of Dewey and Whitman verges on the quixotic. Politics is an ugly business, and the soaring rhetoric of Whitman only takes you so far. But the broader point about national pride and projecting a vision of the future that can build a consensus for specific reforms remains as relevant as ever.

    Recent history seems to support Rorty’s contention. Obama’s implacable optimism inspired the country. Bernie Sanders’s economic populism resonated with far more people than anyone supposed a year or two ago. This is a winning combination for the left. It’s also the formula that Rorty endorses in Achieving our Country.

    Perhaps the left would do well to embrace it.

    This article was originally published on January 11, 2017,

  31. Fabius Maximus says:

    “You cannot have it both ways, but you do try.”

    I’ll go with the BBC among others.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39435786

  32. Very Stable Genius says:

    Where eggs at?

    Chicago says:
    February 14, 2025 at 9:22 am
    Ten 446

  33. Fast Eddie says:

    Reading that Rorty piece above gave me another view of the liberal mind. It’s difficult to pin that side to one direction; they use many tools to manipulate and persuade. They once tried to convince others to accept their obscurities using a familiar language. When s0ciety shunned them regardless of the attempt, they turned to high levels of academic drivel as “proof” that the “common man” is too ignorant to understand their existence and beliefs. It still fell on deaf ears because like water returning to it’s natural state after a storm, so does the tendency to revert to common sense. Thus, the essentials of logic and rational judgement has finally clawed its way back. This is driving the left absolutely insane. Slight of hand and s0ciopathic behavior is the only thing they know. Where do they go to from here?

  34. RortyWasRight says:

    Fat Eddie,

    Go and get your 3rd meal of the day.

    You lived in Height in Jersey City, your father was a fireman. That means you were feeding of McCann machine. That is as Municipal Socialism as it get. In fact your parent’s property taxes were kept artificially low by McCann.

    If you remember when Schundler won the mayoralty as the only republican against 18 other democratic candidates, the first thing he did was correctly assess property taxes, that is the point your family probably felt the first prick of real taxes.

  35. SmallGovConservative says:

    Very Stable Genius says:
    February 14, 2025 at 10:08 am
    “Where eggs”

    As per Lib, “Over the last year, eggs are up 53%”. Going to take quite a while to fix Biden’s Bird Flu foul-up, but don’t worry, DJT will get it done.

  36. RentL0rd says:

    10:15 – Agreed. /s

    Let’s just go back to living in caves. Science doesn’t matter. All we need is rocks (money). Who cares about public health – the fruits will give us immunity. Who cares about education – we have AI to think and talk for us. We are America, we so special we need no govt. Along the way, let us deny birth-right citizenship to Native Americans – they don’t belong here.

    By the way, for a week now, our water has been tasting awful. Neighbors talking about it as well. I’ll need to make a run to ShopRite and get the Primo water container.

  37. Phoenix says:

    Ohh Snap!

    RortyWasRight says:
    February 14, 2025 at 10:26 am
    Fat Eddie,

    Go and get your 3rd meal of the day.

    You lived in Height in Jersey City, your father was a fireman. That means you were feeding of McCann machine. That is as Municipal Socialism as it get. In fact your parent’s property taxes were kept artificially low by McCann.

    If you remember when Schundler won the mayoralty as the only republican against 18 other democratic candidates, the first thing he did was correctly assess property taxes, that is the point your family probably felt the first prick of real taxes.

  38. Chicago says:

    Incredibly condescending.

    “For the Right never thinks that anything much needs to be changed: it thinks the country is basically in good shape, and may well have been in better shape in the past. It sees the Left’s struggle for social justice as mere troublemaking, as utopian foolishness. The Left, by definition, is the party of hope. It insists that our nation remains unachieved.”

  39. Chad Powers says:

    SmallGovConservative,
    We rent out real estate that we invested in and have our properties under a business KG. The commercial property was passed on to us five or six years ago. One person we talked to here in town suggested selling now while the main tenant is still in the building. That would give a buyer over a year to line up new tenants. The current value is somewhere between 4 to 6 million Euro. That is a conservative estimate I believe. As I said, the market is not good right now. It was built in the early 1970s, so maintenance is also an issue. Rents on new construction here are really high, so being old construction has that going for it.

  40. Fast Eddie says:

    If you remember when Schundler won the mayoralty as the only republican against 18 other democratic candidates, the first thing he did was correctly assess property taxes, that is the point your family probably felt the first prick of real taxes.

    Yeah, I remember, they went down after the reassessment. Schundler won on 17% of the vote with 18 entrants. Two candidates were African American so they split the black vote and… Schundler got in. Hudson County politics has always been non-partisan, a secluded type of political environment. A totally different animal. Comparing local politics there to the federal level is like comparing a chocolate cake to a screwdriver.

  41. Juice Box says:

    McCann machine? You mean the Hudson County Democratic machine aka HCDO..

    It’s alive and well today…McCann was a blip from the 1980s. He is 75 now and apparently is a garbage incinerator inspector one of the lower rungs of the machine for sure.

    https://www.nj.com/hudson/2025/01/hudson-countys-democratic-machine-still-reigns-how-long-will-its-dynasty-last.html

  42. No One says:

    Turns out Rorty was worse than I realized. I can’t imagine being inspired by that guy.
    Lots of BS opinion presented as historical fact in the long post about him.

  43. Phoenix says:

    By the way, for a week now, our water has been tasting awful. Neighbors talking about it as well. I’ll need to make a run to ShopRite and get the Primo water container.

    Call DOGE

    Department of Government Ecology.

    Maybe they can helicopter some Perrier by helicopter across the Potomac for you. They get cases of it delivered to themselves with your taxpayer dollars that way.

    Sorry, ain’t gonna happen. You are a proletariat and they are the oligarchs.

    Reminds me of something. Remember when that cretin Democrap Obama faked drinking the water in Flint, Michigan. F’n scumbag. Put him in the middle of the centipede.

  44. Libturd says:

    Almost as foolish as saying, but not quite:

    “Slight of hand and s0ciopathic behavior is the only thing they know.”

  45. Libturd says:

    Chad,

    I don’t know shit about commercial real estate, but I know a helluva lot about long-term investing.

    Don’t fret the timing so much. It’s impossible to know the future. What matters is to keep on doing what you are doing regularly. So sometimes you win with timing and sometimes you lose. But unless there is a huge investable macro event, like the two we experienced it my lifetime (tech bubble and fiscal/housing crisis). Optimally timing every purchase and sale is impossible. Sell and be done with it. You are not starving either way.

  46. BRT says:

    Phoenix, even after filter?

  47. Libturd says:

    Schundler is why I became a Republican.

    Hudson County politics are so corrupt, I stopped paying attention decades ago. Everything that appears is carefully crafted and not as it really is. Call them the original dupers.

  48. Phoenix says:

    BRT

    He was really thirsty, it was “not a stunt.”

    Fuccer.

    https://youtu.be/AjugN-nUHh8?t=76

  49. Libturd says:

    And Gary. Let me know when we are great.

    Will it be when the 10th plane crashes in one month? Or perhaps when the measle outbreaks force schools to close?

    Get your Meme Coins here.

  50. Phoenix says:

    Now that is a lying Democrap on camera.

    One after another, scary f’n people run this government.

    Lie about drinking water, are demented, claim weapons of mass destruction when none exist, Let a DOGE guy and his kid run the White House.

    Oh, anyone seen this video?

    Elon’s kid tells Trump “You are not the president and you need to go away.”
    https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1iny87s/elons_kid_tells_trump_you_are_not_the_president/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

  51. SmallGovConservative says:

    Libturd says:
    February 14, 2025 at 11:20 am
    “Let me know when we are great”

    Sore loser!

  52. Phoenix says:

    This is the first kid in the White House wearing a diaper.

    Next to Trump wearing one, Biden before him, Nancy Pelosi and Mitchy McConnell.

    How does that joke go, you start out in diapers, you end up in diapers (in the Government)

  53. Phoenix says:

    Easy there.

    The man just asked you for a small favor. Can you please oblige?

    SmallGovConservative says:
    February 14, 2025 at 11:23 am
    Libturd says:
    February 14, 2025 at 11:20 am
    “Let me know when we are great”

    Sore loser!

  54. Phoenix says:

    You do realize if you are going to advertise your spectacular abilities that you really need to step up your game and produce.

    When you say you are going to Make it Great Again, who exactly are you making it great for?

    Oh, and before you answer that question, in America, All men are created equal. That includes the homeless and the poor.

    Embrace the flag.

  55. Libturd says:

    A picture tells a thousand words.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/oEbXixVvb8Vy3JxC8

    Man are you supporters fools.

  56. Phoenix says:

    Oh, and Happy Valentines day to all on here, Democraps and Repukes.

    My wish for all of you today is that you get laid. Hope you got your Cialis prescriptions refilled.

    Toodles

  57. Chad Powers says:

    Lib,
    That is probably good advice. Thanks. If we sell we can always park the money in Festgeld for a while until we figure out what we want to do.

  58. Libturd says:

    And on the Adam’s tip, Tangle says it bet.

    In its stated attempt to fight politicized prosecution, Trump’s Justice Department seems pretty politically motivated.

    What a savior. Replaces one deep state with another.

    Feeling the greatness everyone?

  59. Libturd says:

    Don’t be a hanging Chad.

  60. No One says:

    The Permanent Portfolio seems like it’s designed for real doom&gloomers.
    25% gold, 25% cash, 25% bonds, 25% stocks is seems like way too defensive.
    The cash doesn’t even make sense, presumably meaning a money market account.
    Gold may have shot its wad.
    They guy came up with his bond allocation before TIPS existed. I wonder if in today’s markets he’d suggest allocating much of the bond and gold to that. Gold was supposed to be an inflation hedge, but it’s a volatile and imperfect one on a year to year, or even on certain 10 year periods. While TIPS directly hedge CPI increases. The stocks allocation was invented at a time when virtually nobody invested internationally. Non US markets are generally a lot cheaper than US indexes at the moment.
    Permanent portfolio really only allocates 25% to what I consider economically productive assets (shares of companies). Which is why it strikes me as overly defensive. But probably outperforms in bear markets or crisis.
    Food for thought about a range of “Lazy Portfolios” which includes the “Permanent Portfolio” as one example:
    https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Lazy_portfolios
    On that list David Swensen’s six-asset “Lazy Portfolio” looks closest to what I’m thinking of adopting.

  61. RentL0rd says:

    11:14, good advice.

    Aligns with what Fidelity is saying about the outlook

    https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/wealth-management-insights/2025-economic-outlook

  62. Boomer Remover says:

    Yesterdays photographs of Musk meeting with Indian heads of state, while his kids and their nanny sat in the same room, was particularly disturbing. So far, I’ve not identified a single Trump supporter who disagrees with Musk’s behavior. It’s like all the Musk simps fell in line real quick.

    It’s like there are no overlapping subsets. Quite bizarre.

  63. Libturd says:

    MAGA can do no wrong.

  64. SmallGovConservative says:

    Boomer Remover says:
    February 14, 2025 at 12:09 pm
    “I’ve not identified a single Trump supporter who disagrees with Musk’s behavior”

    I’m sure that you haven’t asked anyone, but in any case, I suspect most are tolerant of his eccentricities because he’s working to save law-abiding, tax-paying citizens HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars! So as rational people, R’s disagree with the leftist politicians and judges that are actively trying to prevent him from saving hundreds of billions of dollars. And of course the hypocrisy from you and the other Dem stooges is always amusing; you duds had no problem with the corrupt and senile behavior of SlowJoe, and obviously couldn’t care less that members of his admin and/or family were using cocaine in the WH.

  65. Boomer Remover says:

    We’ve swung from a confused geriatric to a ketamine addicted government subsidy lovin’ nepo-baby. What the [expletive]?

    Vance’s speech in Munich earlier today had one overriding message: Ignore the will of your respective maga electorates at your own risk.

  66. hughesrep says:

    Was it in German?

  67. Libturd says:

    “He’s working to save law-abiding, tax-paying citizens HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars!”

    I’ll believe it when I see it. So far, I’m paying more for everything than I paid before he got elected and lots of people I know are losing their jobs. Please point out a single penny of savings for you and me when it actually occurs. It didn’t last time around. It won’t this time around.

    So what’s your take on the President holding up a bible (that wasn’t his) in front of a boarded up church that would not allow him to attend services there when it was open?

    Crickets.

  68. Libturd says:

    I know.

    MAGA can do no wrong.

  69. Juice Box says:

    re: “disagrees with Musk’s behavior.”

    I think Elon does horrible horrible stuff like brining broadband satellite at a discount rate to poor people all over the world.

    He was in India because the Ambani’s don’t want him there at all. They are going to allocate their “satellite spectrum” administratively and not via an open auction.

    Why do you think Trump suspended enforcement of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA). Elon has to pony up to do any business there at all.

    Is it right paying bribes? It might be the second oldest profession…..

  70. Libturd says:

    I’ve brined a turkey and of course chicken. I even dry brined an Iphone. But. I’ve never brined a router. Elon is truly next level.

  71. Very Stable Genius says:

    Maga loves corruption but Democrats won’t stand by it

    BREAKING NEWS!

    LIVE
    Updated
    Feb. 14, 2025, 1:05 p.m. ET3 minutes ago
    Live Updates: Upheaval Spreads Over Adams Case as Calls for His Resignation Grow

    The lead federal prosecutor on the case against Mayor Eric Adams quit on Friday, the latest in a series of resignations over an order from a top Justice Department official to drop the corruption charges the mayor faces.

  72. Very Stable Genius says:

    quite ironic that an Insurrectionist goes to Germany to preach Democracy

  73. Juice Box says:

    Lib – Indo-U.S. nuclear deal in 2008, chests containing cash, reportedly around $25 million paid to various Indian MPs to approve the deal. This deal signed under GWB was transfer nuclear technology to India. We were giving them something of great value and we still had to pay a bribes….

  74. SmallGovConservative says:

    Libturd says:
    February 14, 2025 at 12:54 pm
    “MAGA can do no wrong”

    You Dem stooges have given me an idea for a new reality show, ‘The Sorest Loser’ — on Lifetime of course. Lots of potential contestants right here in this blog; you can all embarrass yourselves on TV, complaining about…
    – firing gov workers who don’t want to work
    – exposing wasteful spending
    – exposing gov corruption
    – saving taxpayers money

    Makers of feminine hygiene products would line up to advertise.

  75. Fabius Maximus says:

    Franklin Lakes, home to Bernie Kerick. Rudy Colludys side kick and who Donnie had to pardon after his FBI check sent him to the big house.

    Back in 2016 when Gottheimer turned district 5 blue, Allendale was Red, Scott Garret took it by 7 points.

  76. RentL0rd says:

    12:09, I was looking for 6 fingers on any hand in the picture to prove that it was not AI generated. But I did see a dick, so was confused.

  77. Libturd says:

    Adam’s kissed the ring. When a black person kisses the ring, extra special treatment is provided. Trump. Doing his part of keeping the black in blackmail. What else would you expect from the pardoner of a cop killer.

    You know what’s coming.

    MAGA can do no wrong.

  78. Libturd says:

    Juice, no doubt. But just watch who gets bribed next.

    He blamed the worst commercial plane crash in decades on DEI policies. Just how can you support this? Help me understand. Please!

  79. Boomer Remover says:

    Juice, you’re biggest male simp cuck here. Full stop.

    Three lines for emphasis.

    Your ability to pivot, gaslight, and obfuscate, while being a marker of intelligence, make you particularly difficult to engage with.

    I didn’t ask about why Musk was in India, what he did in India, his satellites, or whatever stonewalling gobblygok bullshyte you have at the ready.

    I swear you would jack off Musk under a table if given a chance.

  80. SmallGovConservative says:

    Libturd says:
    February 14, 2025 at 1:16 pm
    “When a black person kisses the ring, extra special treatment is provided”

    The most blatantly racist comment I’ve ever seen on this blog. Seek help!

  81. Juice Box says:

    What will come of the current Adani bibery case anyway? $250 million in bribes this time is the Eastern District of NY along with the SEC.

    I would say it will be shut down if Trump wants it to be Modi was at the White House yesterday.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/case-against-india-gautam-adani-175120604.html

  82. Libturd says:

    Smalls. For years we had to listen to Hunter this. Hunter that. The Laptop. The Big Guy. Then Trump turnes around, grifts 7 billion dollars. That’s 636 times the amount it was estimated that Hunter’s firm made off of the Ukraine deal and it’s perfectly fine.

  83. Fast Eddie says:

    I love reading the continuous meltdown here. Day after day, the anger and resentment is at the same level. Actually, it’s heightened because it’s not going to sway votes any more. That’s throwing salt in the wounds, making it worse. All the screaming in the world won’t change a thing. As long as the dems offer no logical solutions, the beat goes on. I wonder why you guys aren’t on Reddit though, where thousands are spewing vitriol in unison. Misery loves company, you’re limited here. Keep it up though, the entertainment is priceless.

  84. 3b says:

    Fab: Does not matter if FL is /was the home of Bernie Kerrick or anyone else. The whole point of this discussion was to point out that wealthy educated people in wealthy towns voted for Trump. It was not just the great unwashed, uneducated, racist, white trash that voted for Trump. The Democrats rather than ignore that fact, should take that into consideration when planning their 2028 comeback.

  85. RentL0rd says:

    SmallGov, very soon you will realize you have a lot more in common with the most liberal folks here than with the oligarchs you worship. That, in a real time of need a liberal is more likely to rescue you than any billionaire. The newer oligarchs are also different from the older Walton types – who were quite comfortable with their enormous yacts, islands and exclusive towns. The Musk, Zuck and Bezos types are for world domination and more. Space, Mars, etc. that require even more massive wealth and need every one of your penny possible for their desires. They have no interest in you.

    While this may sound too cynical, prove me wrong. Sure there may be a few by products where you may get some scraps, but that’s all you peasants – maga or democrats get.

    With the new wealthy, you need more than an open mind. You need to be a lot more savvy if you want to survive this onslaught on democracy.

  86. LAX says:

    1:24 that’s because you don’t really understand what is happening.

  87. RentL0rd says:

    I take that back. It may be too late. These guys are rushing for a reason. This needs to be done fast before the elections in 2 years. Hitler did it in 53 days. Musk is probably faster if not for the little resistance that the democrats are stringing together without a cohesive approach.

  88. Fast Eddie says:

    Dana Bash said Harry Bolz.

    LMAO!!

    You guys are in a fucking dingy in the ocean.

    LOLOLOL!!

  89. Fast Eddie says:

    But… but… but… INSURRECTION!

    LOL!!

  90. Hughesrep says:

    It’s dinghy, dingy.

  91. No One says:

    Just remember, big labor, big Hollywood are all “grass roots” influencers, salt of the earth folks. When Facebook/Twitter was following FBI orders for blocking and suspending users and posts to protect Democrats political aims, they were run by public spirited businessmen. When they stop silencing discussions that hurts the feelings of leftists, those same people suddenly become “Oligarchs”

  92. chicagofinance says:

    From the man who can’t take a shit for days at a time.

    Libturd says:
    February 14, 2025 at 11:14 am
    What matters is to keep on doing what you are doing regularly.

  93. LAX says:

    2:07 clap monkey clap!!

  94. LAX says:

    Gary you fucking dumbass.

  95. Hold my beer says:

    LAX

    Did you see my post about turkey tail mushroom capsules for your dog? It might help.

  96. 3b says:

    NBC News reports that one Bronx Bodega has started to sell individual eggs due to the high prices.

  97. Hold my beer says:

    3b

    Loosies aren’t just for cigarettes nowadays.

    Seriously if people in your household bake look into getting some sort of plant based egg replacer like bobs red mills. They last for a few years and are much cheaper than real eggs. Don’t notice any difference in banana breads.

  98. LAX says:

    3;06 thanks!

  99. 3b says:

    Hold: Loosies a blast from the past! I used to see people buying them back in the day in the Bronx, while we were buying quart bottles of Colt 45 or Olde English. We don’t bake much anymore, but when my wife does , I know she uses Red Mill products, my Daughter told her about them.

  100. Fabius Maximus says:

    Yes there where a lot of Weathly, (white and non-white), educated that voted for Donnie.

    But look at what I actually said.
    “but there’s a lot (Hey Leftwing) that when it comes down to it can’t pull the handle for a Dem”

    One of the smartest people I know, voted trump but is now shouting that the Hay-Herrán Treaty gives Trump the right to take the Panama Canal. Does that stupidity make him any less “educated”

  101. Hold my beer says:

    LAX

    You’re welcome. I take them because of the WTC dust I was exposed too. Supposed to help shorten viral illnesses too. I use a brand called Host Defense.

  102. White Trash Eddie says:

    NASDAQ Composite closes at record high – 20,026.77.

    Thank you, President Trump!

  103. Fabius Maximus says:

    Pekka Kallioniemi @P_Kallioniemi
    It seems Elon’s DOGE boys aren’t as tech-savvy as he made them out to be – web security experts have discovered that anyone can push updates to the DOGE database.

    Are they going to blame senior advisor ‘bigballs’ for this blunder?
    https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1890344368130678891

  104. Fabius Maximus says:

    Rep. Marcy Kaptur @RepMarcyKaptur
    Where does the accumulated debt of this country come from? It comes from Republican Presidents going back to Ronald Reagan. 3/4 of the accumulated debt of this country is due to Republican Presidents who didn’t pay for their spending—so much for Republican’s being the party of fiscal responsibility
    https://x.com/RepMarcyKaptur/status/1890143603403702378

  105. Juice Box says:

    “It comes from Republican Presidents”

    Sorry Pal….Where does the debt come from, it the House of Reps….

    1961-1994: Democrats held a majority in the House for this entire period. This is a continuous stretch of 34 years.
    2007-2010: Democrats regained control of the House. This is another 4 years.
    2019-2022: Democrats won back the House. This is another 4 years.

    Looks facts matter…get it right…

  106. Juice Box says:

    Not to say plenty of republicans did not vote for the deficit spendingthat created the deficit and all the 226 Trillion in unfunded labilities.

    Look for the older folks it will all just be a bookmark in History eventually. If you take a look here even DOGE will be a short lived bookmark.. The fine folks who run the debt clock added a nice clock for DOGE.. Look Top Left in Gold….. It won’t be there long. I predict once they go for the meat starting with the DOD…..

    https://www.usdebtclock.org/

  107. Phoenix says:

    Thomas Herbst, a 57-year-old Bridgewater chief and former police chief in Manville was convicted of official misconduct, sexual assault and criminal sexual contact, authorities said, State Attorney General Matthew Platkin said.

    Herbst groped, exposed himself to and sexually harassed an employee, later violently sexually assaulting her, with the attack taking place while he and the victim were at police headquarters, Platkin said. The misconduct took place over a period of 13 years, Platkin said.

    The police chief solicited sexual favors from the wife of one of his subordinate officers, demanding oral sex from the woman in exchange for her husband getting a promotion, Platkin said. He also demanded sexually explicit photos of a different subordinate’s wife in exchange for a schedule change, Platkin said.

    After he was suspended, Herbst still retained his chief’s badge and identified himself as a chief of police to get out of a traffic violation, Platkin said.

  108. RentL0rd says:

    A teacher released in exchange for a crypto criminal is really the art of the deal.

    Why not do more such grate deals? It only makes sense thinks Vlad.

    https://apnews.com/article/russia-american-arrested-marijuana-prisoner-swap-488faacfe1e65adfcb732de569de04a3

  109. Very Stable Genius says:

    Argentina’s President Javier Milei Launches Solana Meme Coin—LIBRA Crashes 89%
    A Solana meme coin shared by Argentina’s President Javier Milei skyrocketed Friday, then collapsed.

    The collapse wiped out $4.4 billion in market capitalization and affected the overall meme coin market.

    The incident began with Milei’s social media post at 5:01 PM ET, promoting a token purportedly aimed at “boosting the Argentine economy by funding small projects.” The project’s website, created just hours before launch, included a Google Form for funding applications but lacked detailed tokenomics or transparent ownership information.

  110. Very Stable Genius says:

    Argentinian grifter learning from our Grifter in Chief

  111. Hold my beer says:

    Phoenix

    But will he keep his pension?

  112. Phoenix says:

    Wasn’t there a game called Hungry Hungry Hippo?

    Americans are sue hungry. You go to Florida, you might get eaten by an alligator.
    Alaska, a polar bear.
    And apparently, Africa has Hungry Hungry Hippos.

    You should have just taken her to Mount Airy Lodge.

    A New Jersey man whose wife was killed in a horrific hippopotamus attack last year during a safari in Africa is suing the U.S. company that arranged the trip, alleging it failed to ensure their safety and did not adequately screen and supervise the tour guides.

    Craig and Lisa Manders were on a guided walk in Zambia in June when a hippo charged out of the water, grabbed Lisa Manders by its mouth and crushed her head and body with its bite, according to the lawsuit filed against African Portfolio, a safari tour company based in Greenwich, Connecticut. The company denies the lawsuit’s allegations.

  113. Phoenix says:

    Hold my beer says:
    February 15, 2025 at 8:09 am
    Phoenix

    But will he keep his pension?

    That’s a given. Oh, and he will keep his lifetime carry permit as well, even as he drifts off into Dementialand.

  114. Libturd says:

    Gator tells me that DOGE Fired the emtire department of Energy, leaving no one to operate or power plants, including our nuclear power plants.

    What’s with this firing everyone? Is Trump reliving his fantasy of being the star of the apprentice? He’s even firing people that don’t work. Remember when he fired Harris.

    We truly elected an idiot. Smalls and others can call me anything they want. The truth is plain to see. And the only defense is you have TDS because all of Trump’s supporters Are truly too stupid to even try to defend themselves in an argument. I feel terribly for all of the good government workers of which I’m sure there are many. Just imagine giving your life to public service and then getting fired for doing absolutely nothing wrong.

    This, is MAGA!

  115. Phoenix says:

    Libturd says:
    February 15, 2025 at 8:24 am
    Gator tells me that DOGE Fired the emtire department of Energy, leaving no one to operate or power plants, including our nuclear power plants.

    I told you all this country was going to go south.

    You wanna know how I know this?

    I spent my whole life being wrong, and I never forgot the lessons.

  116. Phoenix says:

    I’m sure there are many. Just imagine giving your life to public service and then getting fired for doing absolutely nothing wrong.

    You think their ass hurts yet? Just wait till they try to use the legal system to get what they are morally entitled to receive.

    Thats when they find out what a razor blade infested double dildo feels like.

  117. RentL0rd says:

    8:14,
    The news about other countries is always shown in bad light. Thats how we americans feel good about ourselves. For every such, there are some great experiences abroad.

    But that’s not a good talking point is it?

  118. Libturd says:

    Phoenix,

    We were fucked by the legal system too. We are not allowed to discuss as a requirement of our eventual settlement. Trust me, it’s right on par with your mess.

  119. Fast Eddie says:

    “Just imagine giving your life to public service and then getting fired for doing absolutely nothing wrong.”

    There, fixed it.

  120. Fast Eddie says:

    Build back better.

    LOLOLOLOLOL!!

  121. White Trash Eddie says:

    Military recruitment ad under the O’Biden regime:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNvlzPKFwP0

    Any questions?

  122. Phoenix says:

    Elections, like erections, have consequences:

    https://youtu.be/0qg3slpW3yE?t=47

  123. Phoenix says:

    Fast Eddie says:
    February 15, 2025 at 9:26 am
    “Just imagine giving your life to public service and then getting fired for doing absolutely nothing wrong.”

    There, fixed it.

    I agree. If you are talking about police, judges, DCCP, school counselors, and principals.

    Except for one problem. None of these cretins ever get fired.

  124. Phoenix says:

    Libturd says:
    February 15, 2025 at 9:22 am
    Phoenix,

    We were fucked by the legal system too. We are not allowed to discuss as a requirement of our eventual settlement. Trust me, it’s right on par with your mess.

    I believe you Lib.
    And I am impressed you called it a legal system and not a justice system.

    Because the lattter is one thing it isn’t.

  125. Phoenix says:

    White Trash Eddie says:
    February 15, 2025 at 9:35 am
    Military recruitment ad under the O’Biden regime:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNvlzPKFwP0

    Any questions?

    I have one. Did you serve?

  126. Phoenix says:

    Or if I can have two or more, that would be fun.

    Why not?

    Bone spurs?

    Beneath you?

    Only for the people below you, like the ones you give Chex Mix to?

    Just forget it, don’t wanna know.

  127. Phoenix says:

    Internet is great.

    Karoline Leavitt 27.

    Husband 59.

    Knocked up before married.

    Wears a cross.

    Married for love?

    Question for viewers. What is worse? Getting a job due to nepotism? Sleeping your way into a job? DEI hire?

    Can we rank these from 1-3 in the correct order? Oh, and if you can think of more add them to the list.

  128. Phoenix says:

    As a winter storm approaches please be kind to your neighbors.

    A public service announcement. I currently have enough work on my plate.

    https://youtu.be/Id9pd8zfQcs?t=113

  129. White Trash Eddie says:

    I have one. Did you serve?

    Yeah, me and the Duke, Guam, August of ’43. I remember it well. They were coming in hot! The Duke’s voice was barely audible over the screech of incoming rounds. We had to hold the line. The Sarge grimaced, spat a wad of tobacco juice. He said to let ’em come, we ain’t runnin’ nowhere. He said ‘aim small, miss small’. We showed those candy-asses that day, gave them a warm welcome.

  130. Libturd says:

    Did you eat pho out of their skulls?

  131. Libturd says:

    Did you ever hear Howard Stern’s elementary school decapitation Vietnam War story? He claims he made his helicopter fly low and upside down across the playground.

  132. Phoenix says:

    So No.

    The end.

    White Trash Eddie says:
    February 15, 2025 at 10:31 am
    I have one. Did you serve?

    Yeah, me and the Duke, Guam, August of ’43. I remember it well. They were coming in hot! The Duke’s voice was barely audible over the screech of incoming rounds. We had to hold the line. The Sarge grimaced, spat a wad of tobacco juice. He said to let ’em come, we ain’t runnin’ nowhere. He said ‘aim small, miss small’. We showed those candy-asses that day, gave them a warm welcome.

  133. White Trash Eddie says:

    Did you eat pho out of their skulls?

    Yes, and we spoke in Scottish accents as we chowed down.

  134. White Trash Eddie says:

    Make New Zealand Great Again posted on the back of some of the shirts. Young men in NZ taking a cue from the global Trump affect:

    https://x.com/NoticerNews/status/1890672184177164547

  135. RentL0rd says:

    White Trash Eddie is a troll. Like most MAGA.

    I just skip his messages most of the time.

    “Owning the libs” is so important that MAGA loses the big picture.

  136. Scrap says:

    Rent

    White Trash Eddie is the same dimwit as Fast Eddie. And he’s not a troll he’s been spewing his gullible idiocy forever on this board. And he’s pure uncut MAGA despite what the serious elder statesman of the board would like you to believe.

  137. Gary says:

    White Trash Eddie is the same dimwit as Fast Eddie.

    I think there too seperate people.

  138. Scrap says:

    Gary, I’ll tip my hat to you on that one. Well played.

  139. RentL0rd says:

    I know Fast Eddie, white Trash eddie and Gary were born to the same inbred family. Needed to pick one is all.

    This is a time to ask questions. Not be so full of it.

    1) Who is the mastermind of the current govt takeover? Its clearly not just cheeto. Someone gave him the platform and talking points.

    2) this plan is way more than just project 2025 – which was itself denied as the platform during the campaign. Whose pulling the strings here?

    3) why is vance spewing support to nazis in europe in such a brazen way. Especially with his wife who wears the pants in the family next to him. His wife and her family were registered Democrats whose values are the opposite. Have they been compromised somehow? To what end?

    A lot of questions, but I will stop there.

    There is more to all this than meets the eye. “Owning the libs” which MAGA is made to believe is not just it.

  140. RentL0rd says:

    Did anyone else feel that cheeto was out of character when he was sitting like a cuck while musk rambled on the govt takeover plan.

    It almost felt like Musk was himself a messenger with a mandate from elsewhere

  141. Phoenix says:

    Compromized? You mean like Pegasus on their phones? Oh, and as far as the pants thing, she looks good in his pants. I can fix her.

    3) why is vance spewing support to nazis in europe in such a brazen way. Especially with his wife who wears the pants in the family next to him. His wife and her family were registered Democrats whose values are the opposite. Have they been compromised somehow? To what end?

  142. Phoenix says:

    Brain dead Biden was one as well. I work with neurosurgeons so I asked them if they could diagnose Biden and they said for sure he had dementia.

    Good enough for me. I mean, I really didn’t doubt my own diagnosis, but who else would know more about brains than those that operate on them. Hehe.

    RentL0rd says:
    February 15, 2025 at 1:49 pm
    Did anyone else feel that cheeto was out of character when he was sitting like a cuck while musk rambled on the govt takeover plan.

    It almost felt like Musk was himself a messenger with a mandate from elsewhere

  143. SmallGovConservative says:

    What an amazing, historic time we’re living through. DJT going full-throttle to drain the swamp and protect taxpayers, aggressively defending US interests abroad, and reading the riot act to our weak, useless, anti-democratic ‘allies’. And speaking of cucks, does anyone doubt that at least half of the whiny Dem stooges here are still driving their white-supremacist Teslas. I just hope Greenland joins as a state and not a territory; it’ll be nice to have another solidly red state.

  144. 3b says:

    What a nice about Gary, Fast Eddie, and White Trash Eddie is that he does not resort to name calling. Calling someone inbred, is simply unacceptable. Kindness my ass.

  145. RentL0rd says:

    I fed an ai model some recent developments – with no bias, straight facts, and asked it to model the next few years. Here is what it gave:

    🚨 U.S. Inflation & Economy: Where Are We Headed? 🚨

    Massive government cuts + deregulation under Trump & Musk’s DOGE are reshaping America’s economy. Here’s what to expect:

    📈 Inflation Soars:
    • 2025: 6.5% (Tariffs & job cuts start hitting)
    • 2026: 7.2% (Healthcare costs spike as CDC & NIH funding vanishes)
    • 2027: 8.5% (Rising unemployment, wages stagnate)
    • 2028: 9.3% (Public services collapse, middle-class struggles)
    • 2029: 10.5% (U.S. loses global economic leadership)
    • 2030: 12.0% (Corporations control healthcare & safety nets)

    💼 What This Means for You:
    • Job losses → Over 100,000+ federal jobs cut, rippling into private sector
    • Skyrocketing costs → Food, housing, & medical care become unaffordable
    • Middle-class squeeze → Wealth gap widens as corporations take over essential services

    🔥 By 2030, will the U.S. still be a democracy or a corporate-run economy? Vote in 2028 before it’s too late. What do you think? 👇 #Inflation #Unemployment #StandardOfLiving #FutureOfAmerica 

  146. RentL0rd says:

    Run it with your model (corny, I know), and tell me what you get.

    Since the current techlords are ai savvy, I am sure they ran their own modeling too. I haven’t seen one – have you?

  147. Scrap says:

    Jeezus, saying Gary does not resort to name calling is a more oblivious statement than saying there is no MAGA on the board.

  148. 3b says:

    Scrap: Correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t recall Gary/ Fast engaging in individual name calling.

  149. Fast Eddie says:

    Who’s Gary?

  150. Fast Eddie says:

    …as the first step in its war against DOGE, Democrats vowed to send a cargo plane full of money overseas to help fund Estonian transgender midget volleyball teams.

    LOL!

  151. 3b says:

    The artist formerly known as Gary.

  152. Phoenix says:

    Legal system.

    Ex wife can accuse me of everything, lie, get caught get rewarded.

    This girl fucks a dog, gets 4 years. Dog probably didn’t complain.

    Wasn’t even a police dog. But they care more about that dog than they did about me or my kid.

    Jones County woman sentenced to 4 years in prison for having sex with dogs.
    https://www.supertalk.fm/jones-county-woman-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison-for-having-sex-with-dogs/

  153. Phoenix says:

    Enjoy your next cruise, full of entitled white women.

    She really wanted him to swing. That’s how they do it.

    Nice restraint by him. Impressive. Especially while drinking.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1ipd6cj/woman_squirts_ketchup_on_two_men_during_norwegian/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

  154. Libturd says:

    I actually enjoy Gary’s imagination.

  155. Fabius Maximus says:

    White Trash Eddie is the same dimwit as Fast Eddie. I think there too seperate people.

    I think you have been listening to too much of The Who and your Quadrophenic Personalities are fighting it out. When you are out feeding ChexMix to the squirrels, do you scream “Can you see the real me!”

  156. RentL0rd says:

    But, how can 3b rightfully claim White Trash is not inbred without having seen his 23andMe report?

  157. Fast Eddie says:

    Zoot suit, white jacket with side vents
    Five inches long
    I’m out on the street again
    And I’m leaping along
    Dressed right for a beach fight
    But I just can’t explain
    Why that uncertain feeling
    Is still here in my brain!

  158. RentL9rd says:

    From my sources – Ph.Ds, Post Docs and all recently hired scientists – within 3 years (not just last year), at USDA are being fired. These are not diversity hires by any means.

    I hope someone is looking at what this would mean to what we eat. And what the growing unemployment means to the economy.

  159. Juice Box says:

    Emergency summit in Paris on Monday as EU leaders are left out of the Saudi Arabia peace talks between the US, Ukraine and Russia to end the war.

    I cannot be the only one who thinks this is because of MEGA???????

  160. RentL0rd says:

    I think these “DOGE” guys need to visit Saudi Arabia and ask for financial transparency:

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/3-men-doge-shirts-show-san-francisco-city/story?id=118849482

  161. JUice Box says:

    re: “I hope someone is looking at what this would mean to what we eat. And what the growing unemployment means to the economy.”

    426,200 federal jobs were cut under Bill Clinton. I thought things were booming when that happened….

  162. Juice Box says:

    While looking back….. it’s really strange today to imagine a time when a presidential campaign was won on a promise to cut federal expenses. Bill Clinton was bold in his speeches “balance the federal budget” And well he did it too even with a surplus for a short period.

  163. Juice Box says:

    Trump has gone and done it..

    “A Trilateral Agreement With Russia & China To Cut All Defense Spending By 50% In An Unprecedented Move To Achieve Global Peace..”

    Won’t be long now before impeachment.

  164. RentL0rd says:

    10:58,
    Reducing defense spending is great. But first it is just a rambling that is not a formal statement.

    And if America wants to reduce defense spending you don’t announce it to your enemies – Russia and China. And also without any congressional approval That is plain dumb.

    So messed up.

    Agree with impeachment.

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