Weekend Open Discussion – Part II

Now Open, Part II!

Prior weekend thread closed due to comment overflow

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Weekend Open Discussion

This is the time and place to post observations about your local areas, comments on news stories or the New Jersey housing market, open house reports, etc. If you have any questions you wanted to ask earlier in the week but never posted them up, let’s have them. Also a good place to post suggestions, requests for information, criticism, and praise.

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Realtors begin to doubt NAR statistical reports

From the Press of Atlantic City:

Real estate agents debate local statistics

The latest positive numbers for home sales and prices have divided real estate agents, ordinarily a group uniformly upbeat about the housing market.

Some doubt the numbers, even though they’re from their own association, and say it’s making it tougher to get home sellers to reduce their prices to more realistic levels.

Kevin Dawe, a real estate agent with Balsley Losco Real Estate in Northfield, said last week’s report that the median home price in the Atlantic City area rose 4.8 percent in the first quarter didn’t match what he’s been seeing.

In particular, Dawe said the figures from the National Association of Realtors, and other information gathered from state and local Realtor groups, seemed to disagree with what the Multiple Listing Service showed.

“As we talk to our sellers about the declining market we are actually facing and the fact that they have to be aggressive in pricing their homes if they expect to find a buyer, the statistics in your article are baffling and impact our credibility with customers,” Dawe said.

Bruce E. Breunig Jr., broker at Century 21 Alliance in Margate, admitted that “we Realtors remain part of the problem. We blame the media for fueling the downturn and try to counterbalance it with our own positive spin.”

Breunig had a theory as to why the NAR survey shows rising prices locally that real estate agents aren’t seeing.

The Realtor survey tracks median home prices, the price at which half of all sales were for more, half for less.

The subprime mortgage crisis and subsequent credit crunch have made it far more difficult for low-end buyers to get a mortgage, he said, which has reduced the number of low-end sales. The homes that sell are then disproportionately from the upper half of the market, artificially raising the median price.

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Downpayments in style again

From Reuters:

Housing Crunch: Return of the Big Downpayment

As U.S. banks mop up the mess from billions of dollars of bad home loans, buyers are finding the days of cheap money are over and, in many cases, tougher versions of old lending rules now apply.

People of modest means have seen the American dream of home ownership move further out of reach. Even affluent buyers, who took advantage the last decade’s low interest rates and looser lending standards to move up to more expensive homes or to buy investment properties, are seeing their options evaporate.

Gone are the days when almost anyone could get a loan with a down payment of less than the traditional 20 percent.

“The clock is rolled back about 20 years,” said Lou Barnes, co-owner of Colorado-based Boulder West Financial Services and publisher of Mortgage Credit News.

Such obstacles to obtaining a mortgage are among the actors keeping the depressed U.S. housing market from recovering, which in turn is having a dampening effect on the broader economy.

“You definitely need more money to buy a house than you did a few years ago,” said Guy Cecala, publisher of Inside Mortgage Finance. “The days of putting no money down are gone.”

These days, lenders are balking at anything other than “plain vanilla” loans to would-be buyers with stellar credit histories, significant downpayments and income that can be verified with government tax forms.

For example, interest rates on jumbo mortgages — or loans above $417,000 — remain higher than for other loans, despite a relatively low rate of default.

“The market is so skittish right now. (Lenders have) been so burned by their inability to understand the risk of subprime loans that they’re translating that to the rest of the market,”
Cecala said.

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“We’re no longer the economic locomotive of the Northeast.”

From the Press of Atlantic City:

Something funny in economy

Here’s a new economic indicator: The more jokes about economists, the worse the outlook.
James Hughes repeatedly lightened his speech Tuesday to the Mid-Atlantic Multifamily Conference & Expo, but those were the only bright spots in his dismal picture of the state’s future.

Hughes, a leading New Jersey economist and dean of Rutgers University’s Bloustein School, at least had some good news for his apartments-industry hosts: With the homeownership rate falling, more people will need to rent their apartments.

With five straight months of private sector job losses already, the U.S. economy will only muster a long, shallow recovery stretching into 2009, he said.

The now-tightened mortgage market will continue to dampen the housing industry, and the real estate price decline will be “a multiyear phenomenon,” Hughes said.

New Jersey went through the last expansion without the employment growth typical of the good times, about 74,000 new jobs a year, he said.

Instead, from 2004 through 2006, the state averaged just 23,000 new jobs per year. Last year, New Jersey added just 3,700 jobs and erased all of those in the first quarter of this year, Hughes said.

Through the 1980s and ’90s, the Garden State was the powerhouse of the Northeast, he said.

“We’re no longer the economic locomotive of the Northeast. We’ve slipped to the caboose,” he told the opening session of the N.J. Apartments Association’s conference, which runs through today at Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort.

For the assembled apartment developers, owners and managers, at least, the state’s drop in home ownership – from 70 percent in 2005 to 68.3 last year and soon into the low 65s – is welcome news.

A fifth of the state’s population is foreign-born, which also contributes to demand for apartment rentals, he said.

And the potential for more multifamily housing is boosted by its good transit systems and nation-leading population density (higher even than in Japan and India), he said.

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Defying the downturn

From the Wall Street Journal:

Where Home Prices Are Holding Up
By JEFF D. OPDYKE
May 20, 2008; Page D1

Downtown: It’s been among the safest places to hide from the housing downturn.

Much has been made of the way the nation’s real-estate bust is affecting some American cities far more than others. But even within a single metro area, changes in housing prices can show wild variations.

And in big cities, prices in the central cores often fare the best. Far-flung suburbs — where home building exploded in recent years — have more typically gotten hammered. In between is a patchwork of established suburbs and city neighborhoods peripheral to downtown that can be all over the map in terms of price declines — or even increases.

For today’s buyers, all this means that shopping for housing bargains is increasingly complicated. The best deals may be where prices have slid the most, but such areas could easily fall a good bit more before hitting bottom. Meanwhile, you’ll get few bargains if you buy a home in San Francisco or Manhattan or downtown Boston. Of course, if the housing crisis broadens, the central core areas also could see price drops.

While New York’s commuter market — which includes suburban New York, New Jersey and Connecticut — is down about 8% from its peak in mid-2006, much of Manhattan continues humming along. Neighborhoods such as SoHo, the Lower East Side, Greenwich Village, Chelsea, Murray Hill, the Upper West Side and Harlem are all up in the past year, according to DataQuick’s Zip Code analysis.

Bidding wars still happen. Toni Haber, an executive vice president at Prudential Douglas Elliman, a New York City real-estate firm, says 60 people waited in line recently at an open house to view a three-bedroom apartment in Greenwich Village. The owner had four competing offers within the week, and agreed to sell for about $2.5 million — $300,000 over the asking price.

Part of the city’s strength comes from the fact that few buyers were investing in properties to flip them. Moreover, many apartment buildings in New York aren’t condominiums but co-ops, which impose financial demands on potential buyers far more rigorous than banks do — which helps keep the number of foreclosures down. In addition, foreign investors have been exploiting the weak dollar by grabbing Manhattan real estate.

One area of weakness: the Financial District in Lower Manhattan, where median prices are down, in part because of an abundance of new construction in the area.

Those areas of Brooklyn that are close to Manhattan are also holding up well. On the periphery, places like Jamaica, Queens; parts of the Bronx; and nearby New Jersey towns such as Jersey City and Hoboken are off between 3% and 14%.

Farther out, popular commuter towns like Summit and New Providence, N.J., are down at much as 16%. Pockets of suburban strength do exist, though. High-end suburbs in New York’s Westchester County such as Chappaqua are up over the past year.

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Abusing farmland assessment

From the APP:

Pennacchio: Block “gentlemen farmers” from property tax break

U.S. Senate candidate Joseph Pennacchio Monday criticized Republican opponent Dick Zimmer for making use of a property tax break by selling hay from his Hunterdon County home.

Pennacchio pledged to write new laws in the state Senate banning “gentlemen farmers” from the Jersey landscape.

“Here is a guy who is asking to represent the people of New Jersey, yet he takes advantage of them to have them subsidize his estate. That’s unfair, ridiculous and selfish,” said Pennacchio, a Republican state senator from Morris County, at a Statehouse news conference.

Zimmer, a Washington lobbyist who maintains homes in the capital and in Delaware Township, receives a tax break on most of his 24.5-acre Hunterdon County property under a 1964 state law intended to help struggling farmers and preserve farms and open space.

Zimmer’s home is on one acre, assessed at $353,900, on which he paid $7,212 in property taxes last year. His other 23.55 acres are assessed at $8,300, and on that property he paid $169 in taxes in 2007.

The state legislation promised by Pennacchio would mandate anyone getting the tax break live in New Jersey and increase the minimum amount of money gained from the land — needed to become eligible for the break — from $500 a year to $1,250.

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REO re-enters the public lexicon

From the Record:

Houses owned by banks may be bargains

Vincent and Kerri Bagnaturo had been looking to trade up to a bigger place in Ridgewood for almost two years when they came upon the house they felt was the right fit for them.

It was a spacious 4-bedroom, 3-bath house with a large family room, on a 200-foot deep property in the sought-after Willard School neighborhood.

The home also was an REO. Short for real-estate-owned, REO means a home has been through foreclosure, has failed to be sold at auction and has been repossessed by the bank holding the mortgage. Banks wants to get these properties off their books, and get them sold.

In New Jersey, REOs are more prevalent — and generally more of a mess — in urban neighborhoods hit by the subprime crisis.

“The homes in Essex County, Newark, Jersey City, Paterson can be the worst,” said Derek Eisenberg, who specializes in REO appraisals for banks through his company, Continental Real Estate Services. “I’ve had to ask for a police escort to go into crack houses where the plumbing’s been ripped out, the windows have been ripped out, the properties became vacant and got looted.”

But he’s also appraised REOs in much nicer locales, such as Saddle River and Alpine.

The Bagnaturos first saw their home — a bank-owned property in Ridgewood — late last fall, right after it came on the market.

“It was listed at $1.89 million,” Vincent Bagnaturo said. “Way out of our price range.”

The Bagnaturos made a bid of under $1 million in November. The bank countered by lowering the price $80,000.

“We just sat tight,” Bagnaturo said. “They [the bank] sat tight and we sat tight. My assumption is that, over the course of time, they realized they were well overpriced.”

At the end of January, the bank lowered the asking price to $1.4 million. The Bagnaturos bid again, and, after a series of negotiations, won the house for $1,050,000.

The last big surge of bank-owned properties on the market was in the early 1990s during the savings and loan crisis, Eisenberg said.

Real estate agent Mole bought an REO herself in the early ’90s.

“In those days, foreclosed houses never made it to the Realtors or to the Multiple Listing Service,” Mole said.

“You had to watch the sheriff’s auctions or you had to know somebody at the bank. I knew the guy at the bank. I had gotten divorced and my salary was low at the time. I said [to the banker], ‘Would you give me a mortgage?’ He said, ‘I’ll not only give you a mortgage, I’ll sell you a house.’ He got me into a beautiful house that I was able to buy for much less than its assessed value.”

REO specialist Stajek believes North Jersey will see even greater numbers of REOs for sale in the near future.

“The country as a whole has not yet seen what is going to happen with REOs,” Stajek said. “Inventory is going to double. In Bergen County, we’ve just barely scratched the surface.”

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Weekend Open Discussion II

Now Open, Part II!

Prior weekend thread closed due to comment overflow

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Weekend Open Discussion

This is the time and place to post observations about your local areas, comments on news stories or the New Jersey housing market, open house reports, etc. If you have any questions you wanted to ask earlier in the week but never posted them up, let’s have them. Also a good place to post suggestions, requests for information, criticism, and praise.

For readers that have never commented, there is a link at the top of each message that is typically labelled “[#] Comments“. Go ahead and give that a click, you might be missing out on a world of information you didn’t know about. While you are there, introduce yourselves to everyone.

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Not so fast with the granite

From the Wall Street Journal:

Will Upgrading Your Home Help You Sell It?
Big-Ticket Renovations Lose Value Amid Market Slump; Investing in Curb Appeal
By M.P. MCQUEEN
May 15, 2008

If you’re putting your home on the market anytime soon, you may want to rethink those plans to bump out the kitchen or add an extra bath.

During the housing boom, such ambitious projects would recoup as much as 90 cents on the dollar. Not today. The resale value of improvements in general is sliding, according to experts. In a departure from recent trends, homeowners are getting the best payback from relatively mundane improvements, such as sprucing up the exterior of their house or putting in new windows.

After spending $400,000 remodeling the suburban East Greenwich, R.I., home he bought for $820,000 in 2002, Jonathan Salinger learned he probably couldn’t sell it for more than $1.1 million in today’s market. That’s after posh additions that included landscaping, a pool, an outdoor kitchen, first-floor laundry and mud rooms, and custom cabinetry. As a result, the 45-year-old district manager for a mortgage lender recently decided not to list his house for sale and scratched plans to move the family closer to his children’s private school in Providence.

The slumping housing market has made remodeling much trickier. When house prices were climbing ever higher, buyers knew they could spend big bucks to expand their homes and still make a profit when it came time to sell. But today, a buyer who spends unwisely on remodeling may be simply digging a deeper hole when it comes time to move.

Further complicating the equation: Even though housing prices are slumping, construction prices have continued to climb. That means adding that new bath will cost more, even as it contributes less to the resale value.

Nationally, returns for all major home-improvement projects are fetching 70 cents on the dollar, according to a Remodeling magazine survey of real-estate professionals conducted late last year. That’s down from 80 cents in 2004. Back then, a minor kitchen remodel cost an average $15,300 and recovered an estimated 93% if the home was resold within a year. Today, a similar remodel costs $21,100 and would recoup only about 83%.

Some elaborate remodels, though, may actually make your home harder to sell, says New Mexico builder Lonny Rutherford. He notes that lenders are nixing higher-than-normal appraisals, and that many buyers are looking for a deal. Even if someone wanted to pay extra, they “would have a hard time financing the house unless they have a lot of cash,” he says.

Inferior remodeling work may be worse than none at all. Cheap cabinets and poor workmanship won’t fool buyers as they might have a few years ago, when many had to make snap decisions about buying a house, says Anslie Stokes, a real-estate agent in Washington, D.C.

“Buyers can spot shoddy renovations, and they aren’t willing to pay for it anymore,” Ms. Stokes says.

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NJ Unemployment Rate Rises to 5%

From the NJ Department of Labor and Workforce Development:

Employment Relatively Unchanged in April Unemployment Rate at 5.0 Percent for the Month

In April, New Jersey payrolls increased by 1,000 and the state’s unemployment rate edged higher by 0.2 percentage point to 5.0 percent equaling the United States rate which was down slightly from 5.1 percent in March.

Over the first four months of 2008, employment in New Jersey has followed the national trend, decreasing by 9,900 jobs; whereas nationally employment has declined by 260,000.

According to preliminary estimates from the New Jersey Department of Labor and Workforce Development’s monthly survey of employers, total nonfarm employment in the Garden State increased by 1,000 in April to 4,072,700. Based on more complete reporting, the previously released March estimate was revised downward by 1,200 to 4,071,700, to reflect a loss of 200 jobs in March.

While April’s overall employment level was flat, there were notable job gains within individual supersectors. On the positive side, job gains were recorded in professional and business services (+2,800), education and health services (+1,500) and information (+900). The advance in professional and business services was mainly due to hiring in the administrative support/waste management/remediation component, which added 2,500 jobs over the month. In education and health services, gains were recorded in both major sectors, health care and social assistance (+900) and educational services (+600).

April’s employment figures showed downward movement in the following supersectors: trade, transportation and utilities (-1,400), manufacturing (-1,200), and construction (-800). The majority of the loss in trade, transportation and utilities occurred in the retail trade component (-1,000), while the loss in manufacturing was mainly felt in the durable goods sector (-900). The job loss in construction continues to be reflective of the slowdown in the residential housing market.

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Foreclosures up 65% in April

From Bloomberg:

U.S. Foreclosures Rise 65 Percent as Vacated Homes Add to Glut

U.S. foreclosure filings climbed 65 percent and bank seizures more than doubled in April from a year earlier as rates on adjustable mortgages increased and vacated homes added to a glut of unsold homes, RealtyTrac Inc. said.

More than 243,300 properties, or one in every 519 households, were in some stage of foreclosure, the highest monthly total since RealtyTrac, a seller of default data, began statistics in January 2005. Nevada, California and Florida had the highest rates. Filings rose 4 percent from March.

Properties in foreclosure “contribute to already bloated inventories of homes for sale, and put downward pressure on home values,” RealtyTrac Chief Executive Officer James Saccacio said today in a statement.

The collapse of the U.S. housing market, the worst since the Great Depression, is contributing to the economic slowdown and may push the economy into a recession. Median prices for a single- family home fell 7.7 percent in the first quarter, the biggest drop in 29 years, the National Association of Realtors reported yesterday. There were 4.06 million U.S. homes for sale at the end of March, 40,000 more than the prior month, the Realtors association said in an April 22 report.

“Inventory levels have soared to unprecedented levels” Brian Fabbri, chief North American economist for BNP Paribas, said in an interview. “Builders and homeowners have to lower their prices significantly to sell that inventory out.”

Foreclosure filings in New York were up 39 percent from a year ago and up 12 percent from March. The state ranked 29th with 5,696 filings.

In New Jersey, foreclosure filings ranked 15th at 5,143, up 65 percent from a year ago and up 15 percent from March.

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NJ home prices rise and fall

From the Asbury Park Press:

Sale prices of homes stabilizing at Shore

Home prices in the area that includes Monmouth and Ocean counties were essentially flat in the first quarter of 2008, declining by 0.6 percent from the same period the year before, the National Association of Realtors said Tuesday.

The median sale price for an existing single-family home in Monmouth, Ocean, Middlesex and Somerset counties was $361,200, down $2,300, from $363,500 in the same quarter in 2007, the association said. The median means that half the homes in the area sold for more and half sold for less.

Joel Naroff, chief economist for Commerce Bank, said the decline is “relatively modest, to say the least.”

Other areas of New Jersey saw steeper de-clines. For example, the median price in Essex, Hunterdon, Morris, and Union counties fell 3.4 percent. In Bergen, Hudson and Passaic counties, the median price fell 5.7 percent.

But there were some increases in New Jersey. In the Atlantic City area, the median price rose 4.8 percent. The market in the Trenton-Ewing area rose 1.6 percent.

Little Silver resident Bruce Jennings has had his four-bedroom house at 175 Riverview Ave. on the market since December. He started by asking $489,000. He has reduced it several times to its current price: $449,000.

Prospective buyers have attended open houses, but, so far, no serious offers have come in, he said.

“There seems to be people going around, kicking the tires, but since the market has been declining, they are offering very, very low numbers to try to “steal’ one as opposed to coming in with comparable sales,” said Jennings, a senior loan officer at Allstate Mortgage in West Long Branch.

The economy may be one reason his home has not sold yet, he said. “My house would be perfect for a young couple, or young couple and a child, but they don’t want to take on the financial obligation of a house right now because they are afraid of the economy.”

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Gas prices popped the home price bubble?

From CEOs for Cities:

Driven to the Brink (PDF)
How the Gas Price Spike Popped the Housing Bubble and Devalued the Suburbs

The collapse of America’s housing bubble—and its reverberations in financial markets—has obscured a tectonic shift in housing demand. Although housing prices are in decline almost everywhere, price declines are generally far more severe in far-flung suburbs and in metropolitan areas with weak close-in neighborhoods. The reason for this shift is rooted in the dramatic increase in gas prices over the past five years. Housing in cities and neighborhoods that require lengthy commutes and provide few transportation alternatives to the private vehicle are falling in value more precipitously than in more central, compact and accessible places.

From the Wall Street Journal:

As Gas Prices Spike, Suburban Home Prices Fall

Rising gasoline prices have affected much of American life –- from the cars we drive to the vacations we take. A new study, however, indicates that increasing gas prices may have the strongest impact closer to home — the houses we choose to live in.

In a report entitled “Driven to the Brink: How the Gas Price Spike Popped the Housing Bubble and Devalued the Suburbs,” released this month by CEOs for Cities, economist Joe Cortright contends that while predatory lending and subprime mortgages had a hand in today’s housing crisis, higher gas prices played a major role –- and will have a much longer-lasting impact on U.S. consumers’ home-buying preferences.

“The rise in gas prices from less than $1.10 in early 2002 to more than $3 today has dealt a major blow to consumer purchasing power and weighs most heavily on those metropolitan areas and those suburbs where people have to drive the farthest,” Mr. Cortright notes in the report.

Higher gas prices negatively impact housing prices by sapping home buyers’ budgets and leaving less to spend on housing, and by making consumers less apt to bid more for homes in less centrally located suburbs, he explains.

The study notes that while initiatives by states and the federal government to ease the housing market’s woes will have some positive effect on the real-estate market in the months ahead, higher fuel costs will permanently impact the suburban landscape as more home buyers choose to reside in closer-in locations that offer shorter commutes and mass transit.

He point out that in metropolitan areas like Chicago, Los Angeles, Pittsburgh, Portland and Tampa, home prices have fallen more in farther-flung ZIP codes than in close-in neighborhoods. For instance, in Chicago, while housing prices have remained stable in close-in neighborhoods within three miles of the city’s central business district over the past 12 months, home prices have fallen 4% in “distant” neighborhoods 13 miles from the central business district. And in Los Angeles, while home prices have dropped 6% in close-in neighborhoods, they have decreased 10% in distant neighborhoods, according to the report.

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