Schumer’s Tunnel?

From REW:

Hudson River tunnel project back on, says Schumer

The Gateway Project, a plan to build a high-speed railway corridor under the Hudson River between New Jersey and New York, is back on.

A day after Amtrak president Steven Gardner testified before the New Jersey Senate Legislative Oversight Committee about the railway’s outdated equipment and much-needed repairs, Senator Chuck Schumer proposed an updated tunnel as a solution.

The Gateway Project was originally proposed in 2011 at a cost of $14 billion, after New Jersey Governor Chris Christie thwarted a similar plan called Access to the Region’s Core (ARC) in 2010 over cost concerns.

Amtrak’s only problem with the Gateway Plan was how to finance it.

But on Monday, Schumer told an audience at New York University’s Rudin Center for Transportation Policy & Management that the project should be partially funded by creating a development group called Gateway Development Corporation.

“The scale of the project is so large that we need to leverage the resources of all transportation and state agencies we have to achieve progress,” Schumer said. “I’m going to try to get the federal government to pay for as much of this as possible.

“We are fast approaching a regional transportation Armageddon: the busiest rail line in the country stranded without a way in New York.”

Though the original tunnel plan was priced at $14 billion, Schumer said that two new tunnels should be build and, with repairs to exisiting tunnels, the price could top $25 billion — a number that will continue to grow the longer the project takes to complete.

A planned right-of-way would run parallel to the current one between Newark Penn Station and New York Penn Station in Midtown.

The project would construct new rail bridges in the New Jersey Meadowlands, create new tunnels under the Hudson Palisades and the Hudson River, convert parts of the James Farley Post Office into a rail station, and add a terminal annex to NY Penn Station.

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84 Responses to Schumer’s Tunnel?

  1. grim says:

    From the WSJ:

    New Plan to Spark Tunnels Project

    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie wants New York to shoulder more of the cost of any new passenger rail tunnels under the Hudson River. He and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo both want the federal government to chip in more.

    Now, U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer is offering his own plan to jump-start a project to take some of the load off two tunnels that experts say are already at capacity and in need of significant repairs.

    Key to Mr. Schumer’s plan is a new entity that would cobble together perhaps $15 billion or more as part of a plan by Amtrak, the national passenger railroad, to dig new rail tunnels connecting New York and New Jersey.

    Tuesday’s proposal by Mr. Schumer, a Democrat, to create a nonprofit development corporation drew praise from some political leaders, transportation officials and business groups who saw it as a starting point to advance new tunnels as part of Amtrak’s unfunded Gateway project.

    “It can solve a lot of long-standing, long-festering dysfunctional relationships,” said Martin Robins, who in the 1990s directed an earlier project that was canceled five years ago by Mr. Christie over budget concerns.

    Mr. Schumer noted his broader proposal includes letting Amtrak use operating profits generated by its Northeast Corridor for capital projects on the heavily traveled stretch between Washington and Boston.

    That idea has been championed by Republican lawmakers, and Mr. Schumer said he was hopeful transportation-funding bills in Congress might eventually pay for new tunnels.

    “The logjam on federal funding for transportation is beginning to break, so this is an opportune time,” Mr. Schumer said, adding: “No one thinks it will be easy.”

  2. D-FENS says:

    Maybe they can crowd fund the tunnel or somebody will come up with an idea for uber trains.

  3. Grim says:

    Taxes are crowdfunding.

    I just hope it’s a national crowdfunding campaign and not local.

  4. Grim says:

    This is starting to smell like an agency power grab over who gets the tunnel.

  5. Grim says:

    Arc – NJ Transit owns the tunnel
    Gateway – Amtrak owns the tunnel
    7 Extension – MTA/NYC Transit owns the tunnel

  6. Comrade Nom Deplume says:

    [3] grim

    Unfortunately, it is politically probably the worst time to try to push this. With Christie running for president, there will be much more focused on this then there would be otherwise. Does anybody really think that the delegations in Texas and Georgia and Florida Are going to back tax dollars going to a mondo expensive project in New York and New Jersey? And when the inevitable cost or runs make the Big Dig look like a bargain in comparison, will those same states still continue funding?

    The only way that the feds realistically pick up much more of the funding would be if one of the following two things happen: The Democrats take back Congress and the White House or part of it on the bus transportation bill that lavishes lots of highway money on the south and west.

  7. Comrade Nom Deplume says:

    Damn autocorrect. Last clause should be ” or part of an omnibus transportation bill”

  8. Comrade Nom Deplume says:

    On Bloomberg, Paulson starting to sell the land he bottom fished during the recession. Market top?

  9. Comrade Nom Deplume says:

    Also from Bloom:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-12/-broken-childcare-economics-slamming-younger-u-s-households

    All this will be made well by the $15 min wage, right?

  10. Grim says:

    9 – perhaps this is a positive – push back to single income households?

  11. Grim says:

    After all, childcare only works when the cost per hour of childcare is lower than the hourly income of the payer. Reduce the income gap, using external childcare becomes a losing proposition. The only caveat is economies of scale and mass childcare.

  12. Wily Millenial says:

    The negative comparisons to the Big Dig never make sense to me, I lived in the area before and during the Big Dig and traffic now is nothing like it was, and a billion old ladies in the North End got rich and the city generally improved drastically. It corrected a real problem. It wasn’t exactly a a national priority, but the busiest Amtrak facility in the country should be a national priority.

  13. JJ says:

    We should make the guy just fired from Jets the new Gov of NJ.

    If he is willing to break a jaw over six hundred buck debt I say turn him loose on the unions.

  14. JJ says:

    Today’s women are selfish and lazy for the most part. Why does a women making 20K a year need to work when child care costs more than 20K? Stay home for Christ sake and watch your own kid. It is not societies problem Moms dont want to be Moms

    Comrade Nom Deplume says:
    August 12, 2015 at 7:47 am
    Also from Bloom:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-12/-broken-childcare-economics-slamming-younger-u-s-households

    All this will be made well by the $15 min wage, right?

  15. Fabius Maximus says:

    #3 Grim

    WWDD “What Would Donald Do?” Can you check your copy of The Art of the Deal and tell us how Donald would get this built.

    Maybe something along these lines?
    http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2015/08/big_tax_break_for_american_dream_project_gets_green_light.html#incart_river

  16. Fabius Maximus says:

    #13 JJ

    He’ll be too busy to do that forthe next few weeks. I think he’ll show up in Foxboro for a two week debrief and then get cut again.

  17. 1987 Condo says:

    HGTV ‘Kitchen Cousins’ hosts in dispute over work at Mattingly’s former Tenafly home

    The co-hosts of HGTV’s “Kitchen Cousins” home improvement show filed for personal bankruptcy last week when faced with an unfavorable arbitration ruling over their allegedly shoddy renovation of a Bergen County home where N.Y. Yankee great Don Mattingly used to live.

    John Colaneri of Ramsey and his TV co-star, Anthony Carrino of Jersey City, separately filed in Newark on Aug. 4 on the heels of a nearly $860,000 arbitration award in favor of two unhappy customers who own the 4,000-square-foot home in Tenafly.

    In 2013, current owners Robert and Peng Avery sued Colaneri, Carrino and Carrino’s Brunulleschi Construction for fraud, breach of contract and other wrongdoing in connection to the alleged renovation gone wrong. The Averys alleged they had paid Brunelleschi more than $200,000 for botched work, including gaps in sheetrock, improperly installed ductwork, incomplete plumbing hookups, and other problems.

    The case ended up in arbitration, and the $857,894 award decision, signed July 23, has not yet been approved by the state court in Bergen County. The award includes about $177,000 in attorney’s fees and three times the actual damages on some of the claims because of alleged state Consumer Fraud Act violations.

    The bankruptcy filings prevent the Averys from moving ahead with liens against the TV co-hosts, and “allows time to defend against further action,” said Wayne lawyer David L. Stevens, who is representing Carrino and Colaneri.

    The pair should have never been named individually as defendants in the case, according to Stevens. The dispute has “nothing to do with them personally,” he said.

    However, Hackensack lawyer Michael Kates, who represented the Averys in the lawsuit, disagrees. Carrino was the construction manager on the job and Colaneri worked on the project as an employee, Kates said.

    “My poor clients now have to presumably obtain bankruptcy counsel,” Kates said.

    According to bankruptcy court documents, Colaneri’s secured creditors include ConnectOne Bank in Englewood Cliffs, which is owed nearly $1 million on a mortgage loan, and both men list the Averys as their largest unsecured creditor.

    The job was not featured on “Kitchen Cousins,” which premiered in 2011, nor on the more recent spin-offs “Cousins On Call” and “Cousins Undercover.” Neither the shows nor HGTV were parties to the lawsuit.

    Local property records show the Averys paid nearly $1.3 million in 2012 for the house. According to their lawyer, they were not able to move in until earlier this summer, after paying another contractor to complete the renovation.

    The Averys are the third owners since Mattingly, who sold the house when he retired after the 1995 season to fellow Yankee Tino Martinez, his replacement at first base. Martinez sold it about five years later for $950,000, property records show

    http://www.northjersey.com/news/business/hgtv-hosts-in-dispute-over-work-at-mattingly-s-former-tenafly-home-1.1390591

  18. grim says:

    If China’s mucking around triggers US pain, it’s a big leg up for Mr. Trump. Plays right into his talking points.

    I can’t wait to hear his new China commentary, and until he appoints Carl Icahn to be the ambassador to China.

    Bet you China respects Trump more than they do the current crop.

  19. JJ says:

    Popular
    Popular Inc. (NASDAQ: BPOP) is a Puerto Rican bank that did not make the mistake of buying too much government debt like Greek banks did. Its non-performing loans are only 3.2% of its assets, which puts it in very decent shape for being on an otherwise insolvent island. The stock took a minor beating when Puerto Rico announced it would default in late June, but it has recovered nicely through the actual default on August 9. Popular is a bet on a Puerto Rican recovery once the debt counter is reset and sinuses cleared with the bank coming through relatively unscathed.

    Chifi BPOP Perf stocks are ex-div after today. Good Buys for income. 9.0 yield on some trading at 20 with a call of 25.

    This is in your wheelhouse.

  20. JJ says:

    Chifi BPOP Perf stocks are ex-div after today. Good Buys for income. 9.0 yield on some trading at 20 with a call of 25.

  21. Alex says:

    566,000 cut cable-tv in Q2 of this year.

  22. Juice Box says:

    Who knew Jeb was a comedian?

    “Jeb Bush blames Clinton, Obama for Iraq’s problems”

  23. Bystander says:

    JJ,

    Daycare sucks. You pay a bomb and basically any sickness requires pickup by Mommy. Happens all the time for us. Not sure a woman could even keep a decent job when constantly having to leave work and/or take day off when kid is sick. Plus, they close for a week this month and they also close in Sept for 5 days and we pay full month regardless. It is a germ-filled racket. No wonder Romney saw a good way to exploit the situation and make handsome profits. Main issue is debt. House, taxes, student loan debt, bills..nearly impossible on one income. Not sure selfishness is primary reason. Nanny is way to go if you can afford it. Ask Affleck about extra benefits as well.

  24. JJ says:

    When I worked at big four two senior managers both on Partner track got married to each out and had kids right away, neither made Partner as neither would quit their job to support the other.

    My senior Partner got married while a Manager to a senior auditor. She quit a year later and rolled dice he would make Partner. He need to be on call 24/7 for the next 3-5 years to make it happen and it happened.

    Bystander says:
    August 12, 2015 at 10:29 am
    JJ,

    Daycare sucks. You pay a bomb and basically any sickness requires pickup by Mommy. Happens all the time for us. Not sure a woman could even keep a decent job when constantly having to leave work and/or take day off when kid is sick. Plus, they close for a week this month and they also close in Sept for 5 days and we pay full month regardless. It is a germ-filled racket. No wonder Romney saw a good way to exploit the situation and make handsome profits. Main issue is debt. House, taxes, student loan debt, bills..nearly impossible on one income. Not sure selfishness is primary reason. Nanny is way to go if you can afford it. Ask Affleck about extra benefits as well.

  25. Grim says:

    This will deeply resonate with a broad cross section of the U.S.:

    “We have so much power over China,” he told CNN. “China has gotten rich off of us. China has rebuilt itself with the money it’s sucked out of the United States and the jobs that it’s sucked out of the United States.”

  26. FKA 2010 Buyer says:

    Slow news day and this doesn’t count. I know in areas that were experiencing gentrification, the addition of Starbucks was a good sign the area has turned around.

    Better to own a home near Trader Joe’s or Whole Foods?

    A new report shows homeowners with a property located near a Trader Joe’s boast a higher value on average than houses sitting close to a Whole Foods. But a deeper look at the data shows the proximity to the trendy supermarket chains likely has no connection to the real estate’s value.

    National data shows that homes situated near a Trader Joe’s, defined as those falling within the same zip code, have seen a 40 percent increase in value since they were purchased compared with a 34 percent increase for properties located near a Whole Foods, according to a RealtyTrac report.

    The study also showed that homes in Trader Joe’s shadow had, on average, a 5 percent greater value than those near Whole Foods.

    http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/morning_roundup/2015/08/trader-joes-whole-foods-real-estate-home-value.html

  27. Grim says:

    Dude sank his jet ski driving from Brooklyn to Highlands? Are you allowed to do that? Seems like a cheap way to commute into the city if you can dock it somewhere.

  28. Banco Popular Trust Preferred Shares says:
  29. POS cape says:

    22

    “Ask Affleck about extra benefits as well.”

    Arnold also can mention the perks.

  30. D-FENS says:

    @Mark_J_Perry: Bernie Sanders thinks the laws of economics bend to his will, does he think the same for laws of thermodynamics? http://t.co/fvagImT7UK

  31. D-FENS says:

    Trump has to win over votes of minorities and people in cities if he wants to win in the general election.

    Right now I don’t see that happening.

  32. Grim says:

    The stump for trump girls might argue otherwise

  33. NJT says:

    Re: The Donald. I’ve never seen such support for a Presidential candidate in my family or circle of friends (including wives). Even kids like him (my son, daughter and their friends love the hat – “Make America great again”).

    As the saying goes: Showmanship trumps substance every time.

    *Usually women ask “What’s his stance on abortion, women’s rights ect.”. Not one I
    know has uttered a word about them, they just want Trump.

    No, wait, I do know an angry old dyke that wants Hillary. Misery loves company?

  34. Grim says:

    Might I add I almost pissed my pants when I saw that Lemon segment last night.

  35. D-FENS says:

    Whoops…

    Whistleblower: Planned Parenthood Harvests Baby Parts Without Mother’s Consent

    http://www.mrctv.org/blog/whistleblower-planned-parenthood-harvests-baby-organs-without-mother-s-consent

  36. D-FENS says:

    O’Donnell says the StemExpress techs working in Planned Parenthood clinics sometimes harvested fetal parts without obtaining consent from the patients:

    “If there was a higher gestation, and the technicians needed it, there were times when they would just take what they wanted. And these mothers don’t know. And there’s no way they would know.”
    Federal laws on the procurement and use of human fetal tissue require that patients consent to the tissue donation subsequent to consenting to the abortion procedure (42 U.S.C. 289g-1).

    In one instance, O’Donnell recounts how a woman refused to give consent, but a technician harvested her baby’s organs, anyway. “Girls throwing up in trash cans” from the abortion medicines they’re given are pressured for consent, O’Donnell explains.

    She also confesses the shame she felt shipping the aborted baby body parts off by Federal Express when people would ask her what’s in the box and she didn’t want to tell them the contents were “dead baby body parts.”

  37. Banco Popular Trust Preferred Shares says:

    Impolitic, crass………and relatively accurate…..

    Grim says:
    August 12, 2015 at 10:48 am
    This will deeply resonate with a broad cross section of the U.S.:

    “We have so much power over China,” he told CNN. “China has gotten rich off of us. China has rebuilt itself with the money it’s sucked out of the United States and the jobs that it’s sucked out of the United States.”

  38. Banco Popular Trust Preferred Shares says:

    IMO flawed and superficial analysis….but there are people here that would know better than me…..

    FKA 2010 Buyer says:
    August 12, 2015 at 10:53 am
    Slow news day and this doesn’t count. I know in areas that were experiencing gentrification, the addition of Starbucks was a good sign the area has turned around.

  39. Libturd in Union says:

    First off, Chuck Schumer wants a lot of things, especially if it gets him air time. Never before have I witnessed such an obvious political schmuck. And he’s always last to he dais. But he never fails to bring the camera crew. This tunnel ain’t happening until the feds pay for it in whole. NJ is broke anyhow.

  40. Grim says:

    We can scare the Feds into paying for it, we just need some more delays

  41. NJT says:

    A buddy a mine hosts several large pool parties over the summer. His wife has a rule:

    NOONE can discuss Politics, Religion or which classic muscle car is the best.

    She’s a Trump fan so #1 is out the window.

    *She voted for Obama.

  42. Libturd in Union says:

    The Trump popularity doesn’t surprise me one bit. It’s a lot like the Hilary popularity. The masses are asses.

  43. anon (the good one) says:

    why you argue this issue so much. you feel guilty not having a working spouse?

    in the meantime the extreme right wingers are obsessed with abortion,…. but don’t give a flying fukc once the child is born. no healthcare, no daycare, etc, etc, truly evil

    JJ says:
    August 12, 2015 at 10:47 am
    When I worked at big four two senior managers both on Partner track got married to each out and had kids right away, neither made Partner as neither would quit their job to support the other.

  44. D-FENS says:

    I’m reminded of obamaphone lady or the woman who thought she would get gasoline in her car for life if Obama became president.

  45. D-FENS says:

    44 – Lotsa butthurt in that post.

  46. Libturd in Union says:

    “in the meantime the extreme right wingers are obsessed with abortion”

    Are they?

  47. Libturd in Union says:

    The real obsession is yours with the liberal playbook.

  48. Juice Box says:

    re: #27 – Jet Ski broke down –

    Back in the day I used to ride a stand up Yamaha Jet ski off of 7 President’s beach when they allowed watercraft etc on the beach. We used to jump the waves and piss off the surfers. Great times back then beach, beer, babes, jet skis, motorcycles, Donovan’s Reef and Tradewinds when Rock and Roll was in.

    Once I broke down about 1 mile out. Longest swim of my life, getting into the beach even with a vest on with light chop was tough enough. I don’t think I would have made it without the tide going in.

  49. D-FENS says:

    @foxandfriends: “You are going to be so proud to be a citizen of the United States” …@realDonaldTrump on if he becomes President
    https://t.co/a2EYZsXFnu

  50. Grim says:

    God this is going to be the best election ever.

    Trump takes a position against defunding planned parenthood.

  51. NJGator says:

    Bystander 22 – Your daycare closes for a full week and they still charge you? Ours has a set holiday schedule. Outside of that, they take one full week off ever year during the week the July 4th holiday is observed….even though that is part of their regular vacation schedule, they charge us 3/4 the normal tuition rate for July.

  52. Juice Box says:

    re: Chuck Schumer

    Obama had been personally working his big donors to try and get Chucky to switch sides on Iran, it did not work it seems. Kerry even went off the rails over this saying the Dollar could lose it’s status as reserve currency over this, our allies have no taste for further war and may try and actually punish us if we pursue war.

    The next POTUS is going to have allot to contend with if the well is poisoned by January 2017. Possible recession and war.

  53. D-FENS says:

    Grim, watch the above posted video from the trump campaign. See how he tells everyone what his first and second favorite books are.

    Everyone knows he’s pandering but they still cheer for him.

  54. JJ says:

    OMG NO. After my Dad died my Mom went back to work full time when I was 16, every single night we had to listen about what went on at work, gossip, people passed over for promotions. Then when I got married my Wifes Mom was still working as her husband made peanuts. We go to dinner there and it was like my Mom was alive again, trivial gossip, complaints about mgt and when you needed baby sitting or for her to come to school play she was never around. By the time she retired she missed all three of her kids activities and six of her grandchildren activities none of whom know much about her even though they grew up within 15 miles of her.

    Then I got married and my wife who is amazing while dating and engaged all at once I live with full time she comes home and I start hearing it is a boys club at work, who got bigger promotion, how boss does not know he is doing, baby showers and weddings stuff about work all people I dont know or care about. This lasted for a full two years till she quit to be a Mom.

    Now I come home to a clean house, dinner on the table, home work done and bills paid and dont get the blah blah blah. Heck I lived with a roomate for three years and did we come home from work and talk about work. No way.

    anon (the good one) says:
    August 12, 2015 at 11:49 am
    why you argue this issue so much. you feel guilty not having a working spouse?

    in the meantime the extreme right wingers are obsessed with abortion,…. but don’t give a flying fukc once the child is born. no healthcare, no daycare, etc, etc, truly evil

    JJ says:
    August 12, 2015 at 10:47 am
    When I worked at big four two senior managers both on Partner track got married to each out and had kids right away, neither made Partner as neither would quit their job to support the other.

  55. Libturd in Union says:

    “Trump takes a position against defunding planned parenthood.”

    I swear, he’s trying everything to get out, but it keeps backfiring. Hilary could learn a lot from him. But she’s too weak to realize it.

  56. Juice Box says:

    re: Daycare.

    I just looked at out Grammar school calendar, I am going to be taking off lots of days so the teachers can sit around and not attend their annual conference. What a Joke….

  57. homeboken says:

    RE Daycare – Full time daycare in Hoboken – top price I’ve seen is 2,375 /month and that doesn’t include food.

    Said daycare was near capacity as well for this school year.

    Comparison – I spent less on annual tuition at my 4 year institution of choice. The above is to watch a 2 year old for 9 hours a day.

  58. Juice Box says:

    Re: #59- I have said it before the money I saved by moving out of Hoboken and it’s high daycare costs pays my entire mortgage payment. There are of course other costs along with the house but I am not flushing rent money either. My old place in Hoboken rented for $3,500 a month. I was shelling out around 8 grand a month for just housing and daycare in Hoboken. The money we save allows my wife to work part time. Unlike JJ I want my wife to work. Who needs Peg Bundy in this day and age anyway?

  59. NJGator says:

    Homeboken – full time full day care near Bloomfield will run under$1500/month. Does not include lunch but does include breakfast and snacks. There is a wait list to get the kids into any room other than the infant center.

    Let me correct that. Based on the kitchen set up at our daycare, the State of NJ will not allow them to say that they serve breakfast. They provide an “early morning starter snack.”

  60. anon (the good one) says:

    @SenSanders:
    In terms of real family values in many respects the US lags behind virtually every major country on earth. #FMLA22

  61. Ragnar says:

    Yes, anon, North Korea and Cuba are one big happy family. Where you and he deserve to go and be merged with the collective. Because “family values” means the government taking care of and controlling individuals, because father knows best.

  62. Libturd in Union says:

    It’s funny.

    Trump is saying America is great and Sanders says America is a dump.

    Now who do you want to rally behind?

  63. anon (the good one) says:

    that’s the point, most families have to do it out of economic need.

    the family values extreme right wingers have dismantled family safety nets

    JJ says:
    August 12, 2015 at 12:30 pm
    OMG NO. After my Dad died my Mom went back to work full time when I was 16, every single night we had to listen about what went on at work, gossip, people passed over for promotions. Then when I got married my Wifes Mom was still working as her husband made peanuts. We go to dinner there and it was like my Mom was alive again, trivial gossip, complaints about mgt and when you needed baby sitting or for her to come to school play she was never around. By the time she retired she missed all three of her kids activities and six of her grandchildren activities none of whom know much about her even though they grew up within 15 miles of her.

    Then I got married and my wife who is amazing while dating and engaged all at once I live with full time she comes home and I start hearing it is a boys club at work, who got bigger promotion, how boss does not know he is doing, baby showers and weddings stuff about work all people I dont know or care about. This lasted for a full two years till she quit to be a Mom.

    Now I come home to a clean house, dinner on the table, home work done and bills paid and dont get the blah blah blah. Heck I lived with a roomate for three years and did we come home from work and talk about work. No way.

    anon (the good one) says:
    August 12, 2015 at 11:49 am
    why you argue this issue so much. you feel guilty not having a working spouse?

    in the meantime the extreme right wingers are obsessed with abortion,…. but don’t give a flying fukc once the child is born. no healthcare, no daycare, etc, etc, truly evil

    JJ says:
    August 12, 2015 at 10:47 am
    When I worked at big four two senior managers both on Partner track got married to each out and had kids right away, neither made Partner as neither would quit their job to support the other.

  64. Wily Millennial says:

    Fingers on the pulse of America, here. All the men are Trump voters and the women bravely abandon their careers because no man could possibly drive to the daycare place when the kid is sick.

  65. nwnj says:

    I guess the tea party boogeyman has subsided in the eyes of progressives. I noticed the idiot has been using “extreme right winger” lately to describe anyone who doesn’t subscribe to the progressive worldview.

  66. Ragnar says:

    I get described as an extreme right winger, yet I have an itchy trigger finger for abortions. If in doubt, eject.
    Even baby mountain lions can learn how to perform them:
    http://southpark.cc.com/clips/103837/abortion-lessons#source=473fef35-48a7-434c-afc6-207874c7f1a3:a720cb92-ed00-11e0-aca6-0026b9414f30&position=1&sort=playlist

  67. Bystander says:

    Gator,

    Yep. I called the daycare director about it since not stated in handbook. She told me that they base their yearly budget on being open 51 weeks a year so monthly charges reflect that “discount”. What a crock. We bring our son to Jewish day care facility though we are not Jewish ourselves. They had opening that we needed. They are closed for big Jewish holidays in Sept. but noticed they are closed Xmas eve, Day and New Years. Talk about having cake and eating it too.

  68. xolepa says:

    I was once described as a ‘racist’ by the provocateur of this forum. Anybody care to remember how that came about?

  69. JJ says:

    Finally a reason to vote for Trump!!!

    Real Men don’t have kids in Day Care. Either get a hottie like Ben Afflack or have the wife do the job she was hired to do.

    Wily Millennial says:
    August 12, 2015 at 3:20 pm
    Fingers on the pulse of America, here. All the men are Trump voters and the women bravely abandon their careers because no man could possibly drive to the daycare place when the kid is sick.

  70. JJ says:

    Jews don’t celebrate Easter since they murdered Jesus.

    Bystander says:
    August 12, 2015 at 4:10 pm
    Gator,

    Yep. I called the daycare director about it since not stated in handbook. She told me that they base their yearly budget on being open 51 weeks a year so monthly charges reflect that “discount”. What a crock. We bring our son to Jewish day care facility though we are not Jewish ourselves. They had opening that we needed. They are closed for big Jewish holidays in Sept. but noticed they are closed Xmas eve, Day and New Years. Talk about having cake and eating it too.

  71. Essex says:

    72. I thought the Roman’s did that…..oh silly me….

  72. Banco Popular Trust Preferred Shares says:

    I’ll check with FlabMax, but isn’t the origin clearly the melted down teeth of Jews?

    BERLIN — A teenager has made an unexpected find while swimming in a lake in the German Alps: a 17.6-ounce bar of gold.
    Police said Wednesday that they are still trying to figure out where the bar comes from and how it got into the Konigssee lake, a popular tourist destination near Berchtesgaden on the border with Austria.
    The 16-year-old girl, who was on vacation, found it around 6½ feet under the surface on Friday and handed it in to police.
    Divers on Tuesday carried out a thorough search of the area around where the bar was found, but didn’t find any more gold or other valuables.

  73. Essex says:

    75. Yeah. That is wot any normal person would think mate.

  74. Essex says:

    or the first time in nearly 10 years, the number of far-right extremist and hate groups has fallen in the United States, according to a report by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), but New Jersey’s number remains high for its size.

    Throughout the country, there are still nearly double the amount of radical-right hate groups or “patriot” groups, as the SPLC calls them, as there were in the late 1990s.

    But for the first time since 2000, the number has gone down, according to a report in the Spring 2014 issue of the SPLC’s quarterly investigative journal, Intelligence Report.

    Hate groups, which include neo-Nazis, Klansmen, white nationalists, neo-Confederates, racist skinheads and black separatists, have declined in number by seven percent — from 1,007 in 2012 to 939 in 2013.

    The anti-government “Patriot” movement, composed of armed militias, declined by 19 percent from 1,360 groups in 2012 to 1,096 in 2013.

    In New Jersey, there are 44 hate groups identified by the SPLC’s report, mostly racist skinhead groups.

    “It’s quite a high number for a state of its size,” said Mark Potok, senior fellow at the SPLC and editor of the report. “There’s really been a problem of neo-Nazi groups in New Jersey.”

    The Atlantic City Skins, a neo-Nazi group, has the largest number of chapters in the state with 14 based in cities from Wildwood to Brick.

    The highest number of hate groups were found in California (77), Texas (57) and Florida (58).

  75. D-FENS says:

    77 – The Pagans run South Jersey.

  76. D-FENS says:

    BTW, Fcuk the SPLC

  77. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [77] essex

    You do know that one kid with a blog constitutes a hate group by SPLC standards, right?

    In fact, Potok was on MSNBC once and was asked to define what a hate group was; I’m paraphrasing but it was essentially “any group that is against what we believe in”

  78. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [39] Libturd,

    “First off, Chuck Schumer wants a lot of things, especially if it gets him air time. ”

    Once, at an IRS event in Brooklyn, I told some of Chuck’s congressional staffers my joke about the most dangerous place to stand in NYC: Between Chuck Schumer and a camera. They didn’t seem to appreciate the joke then and there but I am hoping that they were telling it amongst themselves.

  79. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [10, 11] grim,

    That’s a rather old theme, one I have raised often, but one you will never see discussed because of the obvious: If we acknowledge that a return to one-income households is a good thing, it implicitly acknowledges that putting the little woman back in the kitchen is a good thing and no party or MSM news outlet is gonna touch that.

  80. Essex says:

    80. Man, I really Hate that….

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