Millennials take the market

From HousingWire:

Millennials have officially entered the housing market

It’s long been projected that Millennials are destined to dominate the housing market in upcoming years. Now, new data from Realtor.com reveals that it’s finally happening. Millennials are buying houses. Lots of them.

According to Realtor.com, in January 2017, Millennials surpassed Generation X as the group that was responsible for the most new mortgages. Since then, Millennials’ share of the mortgage market has continued to rise. By the end of 2018, Millennials represented 45% of all new mortgages, compared to 36% for Generation X, and 17% for Baby Boomers.

What’s new is that Millennials also finally surpassed older generations in the total dollar amount of those mortgages. According to the data, Millennials now represent the largest dollar volume by age group as well.

“In November 2018, Millennials finally overtook Generation X as having the largest share of new loans by dollar volume, with a share of 42% in December, compared to a share of 40% for Generation X and 17% for Baby Boomers. This indicates Millennials are willing to take on larger mortgages than any other generation to fulfill their dreams of homeownership,” the company writes.

Realtor.com’s Director of Economic Research Javier Vivas said Millennials are getting older, with better jobs and deeper pockets, allowing them to expand their collective purchase power, and hence, their footprint in the market.

“The stereotype that Millennials primarily choose to buy homes and live in large metro areas isn’t the reality,” Vivas said. “Results show Millennials’ expansion is more heavily conditioned by affordability than in prior years, so their eyes are set on less traditional secondary markets where homes and jobs are now available and plentiful.”

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154 Responses to Millennials take the market

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. Bruiser says:

    Sloppy seconds

  3. 3b says:

    That may be the case on a national basis but I am not seeing it in the NYC metro area.

  4. Juice Box says:

    Top 10 Millenial Cities (where the millennials are moving)

    1 San Francisco
    2 Denver
    3 Austin, Texas
    4 Nashville, Tenn.
    5 San Jose, Calif.
    6 Raleigh, N.C.
    7 Portland, Ore.
    8 Seattle
    9 Oklahoma City
    10 Dallas

  5. xolepa says:

    #1 – San Francisco

    I guess that includes homeless Millennials

  6. Juice Box says:

    Four of the ten most expensive counties in the United States are in San Fran Metro.

    As far as the homeless there those 7,000 homeless residents in San Fran pales in comparison to the 65,000 in NYC.

    The main difference in NYC is we have 326 public housing developments across the NYC City’s five boroughs housing about 400,000 people otherwise the homeless population here would be out of control.

    San Fran only has about 2,200 units total in its Housing Authority. Whenever they propose to build a housing development the locals come out in force to protest, and most of their measures have been temporary in nature going back to the 1970s – 1980s when Dianne Feinstein was mayor.

    Homeless are a feature now in San Fran on every busy corner. I have seen the cops in action in the tourist areas, after they put on the blue rubber gloves they scoop them up and toss them in vans and relocate them, where I have no idea but it isn’t to a housing unit.

  7. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Lots of scooping needed in San Fran. I’m surprised the left hasn’t told us yet that people who shit on the sidewalk are less likely to commit crimes than those that shit indoors.

  8. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “US “cash available to investors” rose 2004 to 2009 and 2014 to record $ 1.75 trillion in 2017. Big business + rich individual investors had no need for extra cash gotten from Dec 2017 Trump/GOP tax cuts. Those just paid off rich donors, thereby driving income and wealth inequality to new records.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/warren-buffett-cant-find-anything-big-to-buy-11550745001?emailToken=0bade7d8ab7cfe3905e6cc5206a32002Qt+W8GXFxCLpZL+6JWxcQCOkcHeMTMjIou6QvY58OUEkdSf7UappNkTYt/LgETVwl1oZgVqJxELdAMv6/SsY+ICOAPZWnEBI6iP1EapwjTA%3D&reflink=article_copyURL_share

  9. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    They drop them all in Golden Gate Park.

    That park should be renamed Golden Shower Park with all of the homeless defecation going on there.

  10. chicagofinance says:

    Theme music for the survey:
    https://youtu.be/s19ZyLZYCYI?t=57

    Juice Box says:
    February 25, 2019 at 9:03 am
    Top 10 Millenial Cities (where the millennials are moving)

    1 San Francisco
    2 Denver
    3 Austin, Texas
    4 Nashville, Tenn.
    5 San Jose, Calif.
    6 Raleigh, N.C.
    7 Portland, Ore.
    8 Seattle
    9 Oklahoma City
    10 Dallas

  11. Comrade Nom Deplume, readying the lifeboats says:

    Meh,

    All of this is an appetizer for the upcoming Nompocalypse.

    I figure that this sort of thing gets traction by 2022. Then it becomes a cascade.
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2147

  12. Juice Box says:

    Turd – the eucalyptus smell that permeates Golden Gate Park covers up the stink of the residents.

  13. Fast Eddie says:

    I suppose when the left cheers the evaporation of thousands of high-paying jobs, it would be no surprise that the NYC area is not on that list.

  14. Ex says:

    The “left” isn’t all for the departure of Amazon. FYI just like not all Repugs are nazis.

  15. chicagofinance says:

    anyone here?
    TOP SHELF-To rank in the top 0.1% of US taxpayers in tax year 2016, i.e., top 1 out of 1,000 taxpayers, required an adjusted gross income of $2,124,117(source: Internal Revenue Service).

  16. Bruiser says:

    Juice, 9:39
    “San Fran only has about 2,200 units total in its Housing Authority. Whenever they propose to build a housing development the locals come out in force to protest, and most of their measures have been temporary in nature going back to the 1970s – 1980s when Dianne Feinstein was mayor.”

    Hahahaha! Ain’t that rich?!?!? The ultra-left in San Fran Clownifornia, who are all about free sh*t for all, can’t find adequate accommodations in their shining city on bay for the homeless.

  17. Yo! says:

    CFA Institute discriminated against US citizens in favor of H-1Bs. Trump loves H-1Bs. Positive for NJ real estate.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-settles-claims-against-international-financial-association-discriminating

  18. Yo! says:

    January 2019 house price data out today. Hudson County median price +11.8%, days on market -26.5%, percent of list price received 100.0%. All measures well ahead of stepwise figures.

  19. Yo! says:

    Statewide not stepwise

  20. Bystander says:

    Yo,

    A small step in right direction but these are small speed bumps. The discrimination is unabashed in banking, healthcare, education and insurance industries. It is simple..you are dangling citizenship to desperate Indians while paying below market rates. They are working 13 hours a day to please the company who is really screwing them, in fact. We just hired a very junior L3 person here. Any fresh out of college kid willing to learn and some tech skill could do it. We hired young Indian girl on H4, I believe. It never went out to public because it came through Indian outsourcer. They have thousands of the people sitting around to fill US jobs, particuarly in New York area. It undercuts everyone and everything yet completely out in open discrimination. Nothing is changing.

  21. leftwing says:

    Getting a little concerned here chi….

    After two marginal weekends Red moves to 13 in the pairwise. With a slot needed for Atlantic Hockey (no one in top 16) and a good possibility that the Big10 and WCHA may have a conference winner other than the ranked team the Red can be de facto in 16th place. The final slot.

    They need a sweep this weekend and absolutely cannot afford a hiccup against unranked St Lawrence.

    That happens at best they are a bubble team. If so, IMO they don’t make the cut through the selection committee with three other ECAC teams in, even with Schafer on the committee.

    Pull it out boys.

  22. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    Went to UMass – BU game last weekend. Lots of fun. Odd setup of benches though. First rink where I’ve ever seen team benches on opposite sides of rink.

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  24. Chicago says:

    This has to be misquoted or distorted, because on its face this is desperately stupid sh!t

    https://nypost.com/2019/02/25/ocasio-cortez-asks-if-climate-change-means-we-should-stop-having-kids/

  25. Chicago says:

    Left: If the Red think it is ok to play this way, then they don’t deserve to get in. After they wiped the floor with Clarkson, they sleepwalked through that win versus St L. It set the stage for that staggering choke in providence.

  26. No One says:

    Chicago,
    AOC got her anti-procreation views from this episode of Captain Planet and the Planeteers.
    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x551v6l

  27. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    hop out and walk.

  28. GdBlsU45 says:

    Progressives should cut to the chase and pull a Jonestown. It’s the best thing they could do for the planet.

  29. Ottoman says:

    Well, without progressives and their soc!alist government funded research and regulations, your grandpappy would have probably died from food poisoning or syphillis or a work injury before he had the chance to fvck your daddy into your grandmama’s tw@t and you would have never been born. So maybe you’re right.

    GdBlsU45 says:
    February 26, 2019 at 9:21 am
    Progressives should cut to the chase and pull a Jonestown. It’s the best thing they could do for the planet.

  30. Ottoman says:

    But 35% of the population believing Trump when he quotes scenes from Day of Sicario 2 as reality on the Mexican border is smart sh!t.

    She is right in the sense that they’re now predicting that clouds will disappear within 100 years and temps will rise by 8 degrees. Might as well just chain your kids to the radiator and be done with it.

    Chicago says:
    February 25, 2019 at 8:10 pm
    This has to be misquoted or distorted, because on its face this is desperately stupid sh!t

  31. Fast Eddie says:

    Well, without progressives and their soc!alist government funded research and regulations…

    There was a time when government did the right thing… way before the bleeding heart movement and the discovery that symbolism means more than actually doing something. Now, we have gender confusion and flavored crayons that pass as success stories to the progressive misfits.

  32. chicagofinance says:

    Impossible….. Yo’ says that Hudson County is second only to Marin County as a bucolic utopia for real estate.

    STATEWIDE – So, after decades of traffic, taxes and more traffic, it looks like New Jerseyans have had it. A new poll from Monmouth University says only 50 percent of us think New Jersey is a good place to live. That’s a huge drop from the 1980s – when we were all so giddy with the Brendan Byrne Arena and a plethora of new malls – that we scored 84 percent in what’s called the “Garden State Quality of Life” index. Monmouth University reports the biggest drop this year is in the Philly suburbs, where they are all still suicidal because the Eagles didn’t make the Super Bowl. There’s also pockets of doldrums in Essex and Hudson counties, the pollsters report, where NJ Transit cancellations have become more common than parking tickets.

  33. Fast Eddie says:

    Supporting a leftist movement is on par with suffering from a genetic mishap. Progressives are disabled and to overcome their frailty, they attempt to even the score by redefining success, lowering the bar and adjusting the rules on the fly.

  34. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    She is right in the sense that they’re now predicting that clouds will disappear within 100 years and temps will rise by 8 degrees. Might as well just chain your kids to the radiator and be done with it.

    The error bars on the predictions anything beyond 2 degrees are bigger than the predicted rise itself in these studies. As someone who has published papers adhering to what passes for a statistical argument, you can’t make predictions on data that noisy with fits that uncertain.

    We call that, reacting to noise. 8 degrees by 2100 is a laughable prediction. Moreover, the armageddon like predictions are even more laughable.

    Why don’t you plot the amount of food production in the past 100 years vs. the rise in temperature. Has global warming been negatively affecting crop yields for the country ever? It doesn’t appear so.

    The funny thing is, we all go to the tropics for vacation and clamor about how wonderful it is.

  35. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m pretty sure we are screwed. It’s insane that people are running around claiming that climate change is nothing to worry about. That’s the definition of insanity.

    Ottoman says:
    February 26, 2019 at 10:33 am
    But 35% of the population believing Trump when he quotes scenes from Day of Sicario 2 as reality on the Mexican border is smart sh!t.

    She is right in the sense that they’re now predicting that clouds will disappear within 100 years and temps will rise by 8 degrees. Might as well just chain your kids to the radiator and be done with it.

  36. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Blue,

    Now the clouds might not exist, hope the crops can adjust to scorching temperatures. I’m pretty sure we are f’ed. Too much change, too fast. A major price will be paid.

  37. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    She said it on a live feed while she was drinking wine and making chili.

    This has to be misquoted or distorted, because on its face this is desperately stupid sh!t

    https://nypost.com/2019/02/25/ocasio-cortez-asks-if-climate-change-means-we-should-stop-having-kids/

  38. leftwing says:

    “She is right in the sense that they’re now predicting that clouds will disappear within 100 years and temps will rise by 8 degrees.”

    LOLOLOLOLOL. LOLOLOL. LOL

    So will same dimwits please use their fantastic statistical models to calculate out what the S&P will be in 2119? I want to invest for the long term and need to make sure I get it right.

    LOLOLOL.

  39. No One says:

    That article was written by some guy who writes clickbait climate change alarm articles out of a shack in Alaska, after losing his job writing tech hype articles for the 1999 tech bubble.
    Unfortunately, it is harder to prove hundred year forecasts wrong as quickly as one can prove IT stock hype articles wrong. Which is why you deserve these kinds of articles. Also pancake batter in a can will dominate the industry in 100 years. Not.

  40. leftwing says:

    Let’s get Alaska dude to run the numbers to give us the inside edge on whose the favorite for Super Bowl 153 too. Probably get favorable spreads now if we pick early.

    LOLOLOL.

    Liberals could not make themselves look more foolish to the general population if they were trying.

  41. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Don’t worry, guys. The adults in the room claim that we can’t make predictions, so nothing to worry about. These are the same guys that tried to shut our govt down in 2012 based on false predictions with our debt. So don’t worry about climate change, but worry about govt debt ending the world.

  42. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Or better yet, fear the min wage hike….it will destroy us all!

    It’s insane to ignore climate change, yet fear govt debt and a min wage hike.

  43. No One says:

    Punkin
    You’ve been using the word “insane” a lot today.
    Was it on your word of the day calendar?

  44. Yo! says:

    S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller home price data out today. Latest stats:

    Annual change
    20-city +4%
    New York metro high-tier house +1%
    New York metro mid-tier house +5%
    New York metro low-tier house +7%
    New York metro condo +1%

    Change from peak
    20-city +4%
    New York metro high-tier house -5%
    New York metro mid-tier house -4%
    New York metro low-tier house -9%
    New York metro condo +20% (plus twenty percent)

  45. Joe says:

    Global warming/climate change is fake science. It is a hoax.

    There are natural cycles to the solar energy output of the sun effecting temperature that have the greatest effect on weather on our planet. Not Man made events.

    Too many people live in a bubble of ignorance about how powerful mankind really is to change the entire weather of the planet.

  46. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Over 7 billion people burning fossil fuels for a quick hit of easy energy. Nah, they have no impact on the plant they live on.

    You people are INSANE.

    Show me proof that burning fossil fuels has no impact on our environment or stfu.

    “Too many people live in a bubble of ignorance about how powerful mankind really is to change the entire weather of the planet.”

  47. Joe says:

    You are Fake news Pumkin are so is your fake science.

    STFU

    https://imgflip.com/memetemplate/57696461/ice-age

  48. leftwing says:

    “Global warming/climate change is fake science. It is a hoax.”

    I’m not saying global warming doesn’t exist. I’m mocking the hubris? foolishness? of making specific predictions 100 years out.

    BRT said it best above, in summary, the analysis passes neither mathematical nor statistical scrutiny.

    Like trying to predict the S&P or Super Bowl winner in 2119. Although, statistically, I would imagine the S&P conclusion would have more rigor and certainty than the weather.

  49. leftwing says:

    Re: the Schiller numbers, feet on the ground feedback from an albeit very small geographic space….

    Spent some time with various realtors in the last couple weeks in various social situations (yeah, I know, why, lol).

    Anyway anecdotal data shows the moribund high end interest picking up. A few houses in the 2.0+ range will be going under contract shortly including one that was fairly stale. May be a good Spring season for sellers.

  50. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The answer to my question is: Global warming has positively affected crop production for 100 straight years. California’s growing season has increased by 50 days over the past 100 years. Do you know how much of an economic benefit that is? Overall, global warming has proven to be a positive benefit to the planet.

    This mad max scenario is purely hypothetical and not based in any sound science. Human beings were able to adapt to a period where they crossed a friggin block of ice to Alaska with essentially no real technology. Do you honestly think we are unable to adapt to any changes in climate? We’ve already done so. Anyone who thinks global warming present even the slightest challenge to us is a true science denier.

    The real crime of the past 15 years is that politicians have screamed so much about CO2 that they’ve completely ignored the real pollutants.

  51. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I’m pretty sure we are screwed. It’s insane that people are running around claiming that climate change is nothing to worry about. That’s the definition of insanity.

    How does this jive with the you can’t lose in NYC real estate. Isn’t it going to be under water in 50 years? Oh wait, lemme guess, NYC will be underwater which forces everyone to move to Wayne!

  52. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Now understand that places that did produce food will no longer be able to with the extreme heat and drought. Will be tough to live and grow near the equator, where most of our current population lives. We can’t take this lightly, we should be putting money into researching the impact on our future.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    February 26, 2019 at 1:47 pm
    The answer to my question is: Global warming has positively affected crop production for 100 straight years. California’s growing season has increased by 50 days over the past 100 years. Do you know how much of an economic benefit that is? Overall, global warming has proven to be a positive benefit to the planet.

  53. GdBlsU45 says:

    Cmon Otto, you missed the point. you could be the ultimate hero of virtue signaling. Exterminate yourself for the better good and think how Much you would reduce your carbon footprint. You could be a legend.

  54. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Please explain how they have farms in Arizona.

  55. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I already have solar on my roof. I compost my food scraps. I do not throw out most glass jars as I can use them to preserve all the produce I grow and I give them as gifts. Everyone I give hot sauce to returns the bottles to me to reuse. I have one bin of garbage to all my neighbors 4. I also save my starbucks iced coffee plastic cups and drill a hole in them to plant my seedlings.

    In fact, the people in my neighborhood that scream armageddon are the ones who have 12 packages a week show up from amazon and fill their trash cans with a bunch of packing peanuts.

  56. Joe says:

    “We can’t take this lightly, we should be putting money into researching the impact on our future.”

    Raising taxes or putting money into research won’t change the outcome.

    The biggest cause of climate change is:

    1: the solar energy output of the sun which will fluctuate.
    2: the earths magnetic field slightly fluctuateing causing solar winds to hit the planet from different angles.
    3: the gravitational pull from the moon effecting currents and air flow.

    All of this is out of our control and the planet is going to change with or without us.The weathermen can’t even get the weather right a week in advance and you think they will get it right 100 years from now?

    Good luck with your fake research.

  57. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Ask Cali and all the other states in that area about how their water supply is doing?

    They will be fighting over it….

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    February 26, 2019 at 2:07 pm
    Please explain how they have farms in Arizona.

  58. Joe says:

    Your fake climate change science won’t even mention the things I listed.

    Just Armageddon because of human activity.

  59. Comrade Nom Deplume, Hoarding Resources says:

    We really need secession or at least the 10th Amendment to be supported. Then we can starve Otto and his ilk.

  60. Comrade Nom Deplume, Sixty-Minuteman says:

    Lib,

    Was that the UMass-Amherst game you went to? Because UMass didn’t play BU when you said you saw them.

  61. The Great Pumpkin says:

    We know the climate changes, what matters is at what pace. Do you think life can easily adjust to a climate that is not stable and constantly changing at a rapid rate? You need consistency with the climate to grow crops at a massive level of production.

    “All of this is out of our control and the planet is going to change with or without us.The weathermen can’t even get the weather right a week in advance and you think they will get it right 100 years from now?

    Good luck with your fake research.”

  62. Comrade Nom Deplume, retaining water says:
  63. Yo! says:

    http://library.rpa.org/pdf/RPA-HRT_Impact_Study_20190225.pdf

    Page 17 – Home prices in Union, Essex, Middlesex, Bergen, Passaic, Monmouth, Morris, and Mercer to be whacked $100 billion each when a Hudson River tunnel closes for repairs.

  64. Joe says:

    And your fake research will somehow help. Hahahaha

  65. Joe says:

    The climate is not changing at a rapid pace. It is perfectly normal for being in a warming cycle that ended with the last ice age.

    Only your fake science says their is a problem.

  66. LurksMcGee says:

    Have we ever considered that we haven’t had enough data (from our lifespans and even tracking data) to determine a future prediction for major weather events?

    Think about the call for another earthquake or maybe even another deluge of water in New Orleans?

    Maybe some of the weather patterns are on 50 yr, 100 yr, 200 yr cycles? I just think its going to be super hard to predict these things. We can barely predict weather patterns more than 10 days out. Just seems like a waste.

  67. chicagofinance says:

    Dude: are you fcukin clairvoyant?
    https://www.facebook.com/DevilsDueEnt/photos/a.10150855330582664/10157198911572664/?type=3

    No One says:
    February 25, 2019 at 10:15 pm
    Chicago,
    AOC got her anti-procreation views from this episode of Captain Planet and the Planeteers.

  68. chicagofinance says:

    What is the climate change hysteria anyway? When you remove all the noise and agendas, at bottom, it is advocating to reduce future human suffering.

    Sounds as if pressuring and sanctioning governments guilty of chronic human rights abuses would be a far more thoughtful course of action.

    Instead of wasting untold $100B’s on climate crap….. how about meaningfully supporting human populations at risk around the world in various ways? Oh…. I’m sorry, that requires planning, thought, and depth of character……. can’t I just buy a Tesla?

  69. Yo! says:

    Since Sandy, Hoboken has added more people than most NJ counties over the same time period. Hoboken real estate values have surged.

    Evidence that sea level rise means little to people and real estate markets.

  70. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What you can do is measure how many compounds are in the air. There is plenty of data all around us in which scientists are using to come up with the position that the climate is changing, and it’s changing fast.

    LurksMcGee says:
    February 26, 2019 at 2:54 pm
    Have we ever considered that we haven’t had enough data (from our lifespans and even tracking data) to determine a future prediction for major weather events?

  71. Joe says:

    “What you can do is measure how many compounds are in the air. There is plenty of data all around us in which scientists are using to come up with the position that the climate is changing, and it’s changing fast.“

    Fake Science that it is changing the planet because of human activity.

  72. joyce says:

    Interesting study. On page 17 bottom right corner, why would they assume municipal services may have to be scaled back by as much as 25%? Values down… mill rates up (even more than they already planned to increase).

    Yo! says:
    February 26, 2019 at 2:38 pm
    http://library.rpa.org/pdf/RPA-HRT_Impact_Study_20190225.pdf

    Page 17 – Home prices in Union, Essex, Middlesex, Bergen, Passaic, Monmouth, Morris, and Mercer to be whacked $100 billion each when a Hudson River tunnel closes for repairs.

  73. No One says:

    Was AOC putting sweet potatoes in her “chili” while pondering the responsibility of having children? I wonder if it was meatless to show how environmentally sustainable she is. Sounds vegan. I bet hers didn’t taste good.

    Yo,
    Move to Hoboken, drive a Tesla, then wait for other taxpayers to rebuild your destroyed property. It’s only fairly recently that typical people decided to build high priced homes within easy reach of the destructive sea. Previously people were smart enough to understand that oceans routinely destroy things near it.

  74. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    Nom BC, not BU. Sorry! Honest mistake.

  75. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    On climate change. My guess is that the planet is warming naturally as well as due to pollution. But between technology and forced change, humans will adapt. What caused the ice age? Some say a volcano, most think it occurred naturally as the planet shifted on it’s axis. That shift is occurring naturally. Maybe it’s from all the fat people in the US?

  76. Bruiser says:

    No more clouds…there’s a new one. 4 years of Rutgers to get a B.S. in Meteorology, and one thing that never ever was considered a remote possibility was no more clouds. Even Venus, with its runaway greenhouse effect, has clouds.

  77. 1987 condo says:

    Montclair just hiked their parking deck from$1 an hour to $2 an hour, that is quite the jump!

  78. Juice Box says:

    Otto like many in his club are short on facts on Regressive I mean Progressive History.. aka Democrats delusions.

    While the Democrats were busy wearing white hoods and lynching people in the late 1800s and at the turn of 20th Century the real people behind changes we have today were at work in Government and Academics for decades to bring us modern food and drug safety.

    The father of US food and drug safety was and Evangelical Christian and Scientist known as Harvey Washington Wiley.

    The first safety law one of many the Pure the Food and Drug Safety act of 1906 was introduced by Weldon Heyburn (R–ID) on December 14, 1905.

    Try again Otto…

  79. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – “has no impact on our environment or stfu.”

    Where your double wide now stands on the moraine of Wayne New Jersey just a short 10,000 years ago there was a Wall of Ice a mile high. A vast crystalline sheet of frozen water, known as the Laurentide ice sheet.

    First explain what caused the Global Warming back that began 19,000 years ago that caused the Laurentide ice sheet to melt and the oceans to rise and form Wayne NJ before you attempt to explain man made global warming today.

  80. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    That’s all fine and dandy, but how long did it take?

    That’s the point I’m trying to get people to understand. Climate has always been changing, no one is arguing that. What I question is the speed of the change and can we adjust?

    Could you imagine being a plant right now in nj? There hasn’t been consistent seasons in a long time. Instead, it’s 60 degrees one day, close to zero the next. That is drastic change for animals and plants to adjust to. Remember, just because we have heat and ac doesn’t mean the eco system that supports us does.

    When is the last time we had a spring or fall here? It goes from extremes over and over again, and you sit here and tell me it’s nothing to worry about. The change is extreme, and I think we can all agree on that. Will it get worst? I think we should investigate.

  81. Chicago says:

    “Could you imagine being a plant right now in nj? ”

    Truly the most profound statement ever made on these threads.

    Clot would be proud.

  82. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – “the speed of the change and can we adjust”

    1 degree every 72 years. One theory it’s called Axial precession (Wobbly earth) and determines how much Sun we get or don’t get around here.

    Sure carbon has an effect on Global Warming, but Water Vapor is the engine, energy from the Sun is the fuel, and carbon is more of a choke on that engine. More water vapor = more rain or if it’s cold snow.

    Now tell me how it can be so cold for so long to snow so much for so long as to create and Ice sheet a Mile High on Ratzer road in Wayne that lasts for 10,000 + years.

    Science has the answer for global warming and it isn’t bovine genocide.

  83. The Great Pumpkin says:

    When you survive off instincts that are triggered by things like the temperature of the ground and air, maybe then you would understand the implications for the bio diversity we survive off in their battle with climate change.

    Just look at what the temperature change of the ocean is having on that ecosystem. It’s changing everything. Never mind the impact of so much plastic in our food chain. Human actions are changing this world fast, and we better learn of the implications as our survival will be tied to this understanding.

    Say it with me…. 7 billion population is changing our world quickly. To brush off the impact of the actions of 7 billion people on this eco system is extremely short sighted and plain dumb.

    Just kick the can down the road, right chi? You would make a hell of a politician.

  84. Juice Box says:

    7 billion is going way up Pumps and they all want a double wide on a busy road, with a driveway full of cars and BTW the USA is only 4% or the Worlds population. We could all crush our cars and bicycle to work and murder every cow tonight and it won’t put a dent on what the rest of the world is doing about Carbon.

  85. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This is exactly why extreme climate change is scary. Look at the extremes this planet has already faced. They say 99% of the species to grace this planet are now extinct. I’m just advocating for trying to survive against impossible odds. Could just say, f it, and give up, but that’s not how you survive.

    “Now tell me how it can be so cold for so long to snow so much for so long as to create and Ice sheet a Mile High on Ratzer road in Wayne that lasts for 10,000 + years.”

  86. Juice Box says:

    Yes baby Pumps you can sleep at night Dinosaurs are extinct.

    Listen Mother earth does not care and perhaps once the sea level rises the population will shrink and the carbon level will drop from 17 gigatons a year to something more manageable. For you see do to technology that we created and that may create global warming and drown and starve billions we all now live relatively like royalty and most would rather die than give that up.

  87. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    Agreed, and thanks for pointing that out. I forget about human nature. Not worth worrying about…. “we all now live relatively like royalty and most would rather die than give that up.” No one is giving it up, it’s human nature to enjoy the now for all it’s worth. Therefore, the issue is pointless since it’s almost impossible to get 7 billion people to sacrifice the now for a future they will not be a part of.

  88. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Again, thank you for getting me to realize that. The issue is a complete waste of time to focus on if you understand human nature at its core. I hope I never forget this, and never waste another minute of whatever time I have left on this planet worrying or thinking about it again.

  89. homeboken says:

    “Imagine being a plant right now in NJ”

    Well, that’s enough internet for me today. Not gonna top that gem. Nice work.

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  91. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Your welcome.

    My point obviously flew over your head and others. In the end, this discussion yesterday reminded me how horrible most human beings are. Could care less if greed in the form of burning fossil fuels eliminates human beings from this planet….we don’t deserve it. Can’t take care of it, so why do we deserve it? Money comes first, and the price will be paid.

    homeboken says:
    February 26, 2019 at 10:13 pm
    “Imagine being a plant right now in NJ”

    Well, that’s enough internet for me today. Not gonna top that gem. Nice work.

  92. joyce says:

    The agency in question (School Development Authority) manages about $11 billion in construction projects for schools across the state. BRT always said the school constructions contracts might be the most corrupt of all area of “educational” spend … not to mention your own procurement story the other day.

    Grim says:
    February 27, 2019 at 7:22 am
    #hedidntknow

    https://www.nj.com/politics/2019/02/did-a-state-agency-in-murphy-administration-turn-into-a-patronage-pit-gov-is-looking-at-whats-going-on-there.html

  93. chicagofinance says:

    This stuff is intentionally being leaked to make it appear that Murphy is taking this allegations seriously and an investigation is happening. Murphy knew this stuff all along, and Delgado-Polanco was in the middle of it. I am unsure why he feels the need to protect her. She is the worst type of graft scum Hudson County style. Right from the Menendez school of graft and self-dealing.

    The firings and patronage jobs are unconscionable. The SDA HATED Christie. Christie was an prick to them, but it is nothing compared to Murphy.

    Grim says:
    February 27, 2019 at 7:22 am
    #hedidntknow

    https://www.nj.com/politics/2019/02/did-a-state-agency-in-murphy-administration-turn-into-a-patronage-pit-gov-is-looking-at-whats-going-on-there.html

  94. Not Bloomberg News says:

    We may be dealing with some nuclear fallout before we have to worry about climate change…

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/pakistan-claims-air-strikes-indian-062348924.html

  95. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Joyce,

    Human nature blows. You can’t drink fresh water, the air we breath is poisoned, and you expect govt to not be corrupt like their corporate leaders? Just have to laugh it off and enjoy life. The human race is pathetic…..will choose greed over what is right every single time.

  96. D-FENS says:

    Just checking in here. I see pumpkin has once again succeeded in dragging you all into the stupidity portal to hell.

  97. PumpkinFace says:

    Again, thank you for getting me to realize that. The issue is a complete waste of time to focus on if you understand human nature at its core. I hope I never forget this, and never waste another minute of whatever time I have left on this planet worrying or thinking about it again.

    Someone here always says stop taking things to the extreme and don’t talk in absolutes.

    My point obviously flew over your head and others.

    Do you realize how many times you’ve said that? Do you notice the common variable?

  98. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Simply amazing how the republican party (trump had a huge hand in this pun attended) has brainwashed its rabid supporters into thinking global warming is some hoax to get your money. If that’s not the stupidity portal to hell, I don’t know what is.

    Trump making claims that climate change is a hoax created by China….how far down the rabbit hole do you have to go to believe this crap?

    “When looking at political divides, the difference in the level of concern is striking. Among Democrats, 73 percent believe the effects of global warming have already begun and 87 percent believe global warming is caused by human activities. Republicans are far more skeptical, with only 41 percent believing the effects have started and 40 percent saying humans have caused global warming.

    Since last year, such skepticism among Republicans has increased, with 69 percent saying they think the seriousness of global warming is exaggerated, compared with 66 percent last year. On the other hand, only 4 percent of Democrats see the threat as exaggerated, a significant decrease from 10 percent in 2017.

    As with many other issues, American views “have increasingly become politically polarized,” Gallup wrote in a media release. The global consulting company suggested that the election of President Donald Trump has spurred the growing political divide when it comes to global warming.”

    D-FENS says:
    February 27, 2019 at 8:55 am
    Just checking in here. I see pumpkin has once again succeeded in dragging you all into the stupidity portal to hell.

  99. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    Grim,

    Our state government is so damn corrupt. It’s like every single person, in nearly every single job is a POS.

    Yesterday, I boarded a city bus (in Manhattan) to run up to Sloan Kettering for a follow-up conversation with on of Daniel’s doctors. As everyone was getting on the bus, they were sliding something into a slot on the bus (I’m guessing a monthly bus pass). I followed the directions at the bus stop that said you must buy your ticket prior to boarding. So I purchase my ticket using my auto-refillable Metrocard and it spits out a piece of paper just as the bus is arriving. I hop on the bus and ask the driver if he wants my ticket. He doesn’t even fukcin acknowledge that I am there. Well I try to slide my ticket in the slot and it doesn’t fit. I was about to crumple it up and throw it at him when some homeless dude riding the bus for heat laughs at me and says, “no one buys tickets for these buses.” So I head to a seat, look at what I bought and it’s an honor system ticket. Glad there was a homeless guy there to help.

    Fukc this country.

  100. Joe says:

    The arrogance of Pumkin with his fake news and fake science just goes to show how corrupted he his. It is in his corrupted human nature to never admit he is wrong.

  101. Bruiser says:

    Spunkin’, 6:55 PM
    “When is the last time we had a spring or fall here?”

    Here’s a little bit of freshman year Climatology for you: the “seasons” are a function of our yearly trip around the sun, where the sun’s perpendicular rays are the furthest north in the northern summer, and the perpendicular rays are furthest south in the northern winter. Spring and Fall are human constructs to describe the transitional periods between Summer and Winter. By their very nature, the weather will vary greatly during “Spring” and “Fall” as the entrenched warm or cold fights its replacement by the opposite. So the average temperature in middle April may show up on the charts as 52F, but the days prior may be 30 and 40 followed by a few days of 60’s or maybe one in the low 70’s. Averaged over 150 years of climate history, and you see 52, though we may have never been exactly 52 on that date ever.

  102. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Could you imagine being a plant right now in nj? There hasn’t been consistent seasons in a long time.

    Sure there has. We’ve had a winter, spring, summer, and fall. And all the perennials are still alive. Dormant during the winter. Vibrant during the summer.

    Plants that cannot survive these extremes developed this mechanism called seeding. They drop seeds and make new plants the next year. As the climate slowly warms over a period of hundreds of years (shorter than the lifespan of our plants), species more tolerant to heat will march North as they always have.

    Species along the regions of highest temperature will evolve to be more heat tolerant as they always have.

  103. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Spring has always been unpredictable. That’s why groundhog day is a thing.

  104. ExEssexy says:

    9:19 took a ride down Van Nuys Blvd from Sylmar to Sherman Oaks the other day.
    It was frightening third world zombie apocalypse homeless vagrants stumbling along in front of vacant vandalized stores. True shithole.

  105. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Pumpkin, please list the science courses you’ve taken in college.

  106. chicagofinance says:

    Altice just upped the charge for a modem from $0 a year ago to $4.95, and now this month $10. Is it pretty straightforward to go to Best Buy and just get a decent modem or someplace else? Also, across the street the guy who completely top ticked the market in fall 2017 completed his guy rehab. My son is complaining that WiFi lag and suddenly emerged out of nowhere…… I have to assume the guy put down a 5G web because I sudden see it on my phone. Is it possible that it is creating interference? If so, should I just drop some money on an antenna? It is just a matter of time before Altice starts charging for that too.

    Recommendations? 2 smart TV’s, 2 tablets, 3 phones and an XB0x….. no issues to this point except my son’s complaints about gaming lag on XB0x. All standard issue from Altice.

  107. chicagofinance says:

    gut rehab

  108. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    Suck it up and see the light. FIOS with MIMO router (we have the Netgear Nighthawk).

    The only thing that will lag will be your fat ass reaching for the remote.

  109. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I know I’m not imagining it….but keep making me sound like I’m making it up or imagining it.

    “But climate change largely driven by human activity has been messing with the traditional concept of four seasons. Scientists have discovered that as the planet warms up, the tropics have been expanding by 0.1 to 0.2 degrees of latitude every decade, so that places that once had four seasons are shifting to having just two. But even in regions with four seasons, weather and temperature patterns have been altered. Across the United States, the shift from cold winter weather to warm spring temperatures happens earlier now than it did in the past, and the period of winter weather is shorter and generally milder. In the first few months of 2017, some eastern U.S. cities even were beset by startling summerlike temperatures in February, with many reaching or surpassing their all-time temperature records.

    Climate change-induced seasonal creep, coupled with the overall warming trend, might make you wonder whether the concept of four seasons may eventually become obsolete. Trenberth doesn’t see that happening, but the definition of the seasons may change. We’ll still have winter, spring, summer and autumn in the middle latitudes — but the timing and duration will be different.

    “A key point though is the idea of four seasons, and the way I think of it is the two extreme seasons, summer and winter, and two transition seasons,” says Trenberth. “One could redefine the latter to be shorter. In some sense, the summer is becoming longer. In some of our analyses we use N-D-J-F-M, and M-J-J-A-S with October and April as transition months! Spring has warmed a bit more than autumn in the U.S.”

    He adds, “The summer is not just temperature, but also the character of the weather — more convective, thunderstorms, etc., versus winter’s more extra-tropical storms, cold fronts, etc. There is one analysis that suggests summers are now 13 days longer and winters are 20 days shorter than they used to be.””

    https://science.howstuffworks.com/nature/climate-weather/atmospheric/climate-change-four-seasons-redefine.htm

  110. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I grew up right on top of the extreme Southern edge of the Laurentide terminal moraine in the Dover Quadrangle. If you lived at my address in Morris County 9,000 years ago you would have a great vantage point where you would see nothing but glacier to the North while Mastadons could likely be seen roaming around glacial lake Dover and glacial lake Denville, forming from deglaciation, to the South.

    Pumps – “has no impact on our environment or stfu.”

    Where your double wide now stands on the moraine of Wayne New Jersey just a short 10,000 years ago there was a Wall of Ice a mile high. A vast crystalline sheet of frozen water, known as the Laurentide ice sheet.

    First explain what caused the Global Warming back that began 19,000 years ago that caused the Laurentide ice sheet to melt and the oceans to rise and form Wayne NJ before you attempt to explain man made global warming today.

  111. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    Anyone who tries to defend climate change by describing the local weather is not mentally fit and certainly not learned in the scientific method.

  112. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My god, I make a simple assumption that there is no longer a true 4 seasons in nj, and get dumped on. Nothing new from the boys club over here….

    Let’s burn all the cheap coal we can!! Climate change is a hoax. Let’s burn baby burn!

    Again, you are a mental midget if you believe we have no impact on the world we live in. You are a complete sucker to believe such nonsense. I think any open-minded individual without a political bias can agree that we are changing the world that we live in by our actions.

  113. chicagofinance says:

    Our services are buried, so FiOS is not going to upgrade our street. Is that router off the shelf, or is that FiOS issued?

    Libturd…look me up in Costa Rica says:
    February 27, 2019 at 10:49 am
    Suck it up and see the light. FIOS with MIMO router (we have the Netgear Nighthawk).

  114. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    Any MIMO router should help. Look up the technology. You can add a router to any service. It’s so easy even a caveman could do it.

  115. Yo! says:

    Toll Brothers CEO: “Jersey side slowed down a bit.”

  116. 1987 Condo says:

    Are we talking Routers or Modem’s? Optimum provides modem.

  117. Bruiser says:

    Spunkin, we’re coming due for another Yellowstone supervolcano eruption. You can ban the burning of any form of carbon tomorrow, at infinite cost, and it won’t matter one lick. Yellowstone will send any survivors into another ice age. And after that? Give it another 75 million years until the relentless drift of America’s west coast into Asia f*cks with global sea currents enough to shift climate patterns beyond what you think you can comprehend.

    Neither of those processes us humans affect nor can we control. But both will likely wipe out the humans way before our Sun expands into a Red Giant and occupies what is currently the orbit of Mars and the Earth is not even a unit of mass any more, to say nothing of the humans that once inhabited the planet.

  118. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    Router. You bridge it to their router.

  119. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    Wall-e.

  120. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I just bought the netgear nighthawk modem and orbi router……easy to install and is consistently very fast anywhere in the house.

  121. ExEssex says:

    Michael Cohen – And the attack of the Yokels —
    Eviscerating the morons. My gawd.

  122. Beavis says:

    Libturd, re: the sh!ty bus, this is how it’s supposed to work: http://web.mta.info/mta/planning/sbs/faqs.htm#fareCollection

  123. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    Yeah. I swear. The bus driver did not even look at me as I clearly asked a question twice. I was very close to reporting him, but it wouldn’t make a difference. The whole system is corrupt.

  124. Fast Eddie says:

    I’m busy here at work, generating tax revenue to feed the whining masses… did Cohen produce the smoking gun yet?

  125. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    Cohen doesn’t have a smoking gun, but does speak to how disgusting of a man Trump is.

  126. No One says:

    A&E channel had a 4 hour two part b1ography of Trump. The guy l1es a lot, 1s an 1nsecure narc1ss1st, cheats on w1ves, etc. The funn1est new th1ng 1 learned about h1m was that 1n the e1ght1es Trump was obsessed w1th mov1ng up the Forbes 400 r1chest l1st. The f1rst year 1t came out Trump was upset he was only marked down as be1ng worth $100m. So he asked h1s crooked lawyer Roy Cohn (who allegedly had a gay crush on Trump) to call up the Forbes wr1ter to talk up h1s assets, successfully, and the next year he was marked down as $200m. That st1ll d1dn’t sat1sfy Trump, so the next year Trump called the reporter wh1le pretend1ng to be h1s own V.P. of F1nance “John Barron” and told the reporter what a great bus1nessman Trump (h1mself) was, and how much more h1s assets were worth than people thought, then even started complement1ng Trump on how he dealt w1th Trump’s tough father. The Forbes reporter recorded the phone call and only later real1zed that 1t was Trump h1mself pretend1ng to be h1s own employee. A few years later, return1ng to Trump’s fr1end and lawyer Roy Cohn, (also a congen1tal l1ar), when Cohn was dy1ng of A1DS, Trump gave Cohn a present of d1amond cuffl1nks to show how 1mportant the1r fr1endsh1p was. When one of Cohn’s boyfr1ends 1nher1ted the cuffl1nks after h1s death, he tr1ed to sell them and found out they were fake.

  127. Grim says:

    I bought a modem off of Facebook marketplace for $15 – works fine.

  128. ExEssex says:

    1:41 I think this guy Cohen is theater but he also sets the stage. Now if Mueller comes up empty it’s Trump 2020.

  129. No One says:

    I’m thinking about switching from Optimum to FIOS after they dug up my street last fall. I get an offer in the mail every couple weeks for a 2 yr contract.
    I bought this router in 2013, would it still work? I don’t want to lose the cable box TV functionalities, or have setup become too much of a chore.
    Netgear (R7000-100PAS) Nighthawk AC1900

  130. No One says:

    Apparently my 2013 model didn’t have MU MIMO tech. So would need another upgrade, or buy from FIOS.

  131. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    If you are using FIOS for Cable, you need their router. There is a way to hook up FIOS directly to your own router, but not if you have their set top box. For most, it’s easy enough to bridge a cheap MU MIMO router to their Actiontec. Admittedly, the FIOS router sucks balls. You can find a refurbed or used MU MIMO pretty cheap though. Or just get the MESH, which is all the rage but beyond my price range.

  132. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    If Mueller had anything, it woulda leaked by now. Both sides are going to be disappointed with his report. Dems will be mad because he’s got nothing. Repubs will be mad because he’ll try to save face on his report.

    I then predict Trump gets relected…and im mediately fires Mueller.

  133. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I stream. So I need the top of the line modem and router for the speeds I use. It never pauses or sits there loading up. Picture is always spectacular (oled) through Apple 4k tv device(never knew how good Apple TV is…might be one of their best products).

    Router is the most important thing. When I installed the Orbi, I finally received the speeds I was paying for.

    Grim says:
    February 27, 2019 at 3:16 pm
    I bought a modem off of Facebook marketplace for $15 – works fine.

  134. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I watched 45 min worth, and from what I saw, he is a POS. I have it on dvr, so going to watch the rest. It was really a well done biography from what I saw.

    Thankful for the trump tax cuts and trade fights, but the guy is def a pos. Has no respect for anyone. I would hate to work for him or call him Dad. God bless his family for what they have dealt with.

    No One says:
    February 27, 2019 at 3:03 pm
    A&E channel had a 4 hour two part b1ography of Trump.

  135. grim says:

    You can build your own “mesh” wifi by using Apple Airport Extremes in a wired configuration. Just as fast as any of the absurdly expensive wireless mesh devices.

  136. grim says:

    Just set them up as far apart in your house as possible, use only 5gHz. A1521. They need to be wired together. You can easily find 2 or 3 for $100 if you hunt around.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202056

    Don’t bother trying to use the wireless extended modes, you take a major performance hit. This is where the new breed of mesh routers excel – they don’t need to be wired.

    If you already have wire in place, the Apples support 802.11ac and have some fairly good radios and antennas.

  137. Juice Box says:

    Wait a bit before you order FIOS.

    New Equipment is coming out now. Wireless set top boxes, they might give your cancer but you can put the TV anywhere without coax wires also full 4K UHD video.

    Deal is good too 79.99 a month for gigabit speed and TV package they are losing tons of subscribers.

    https://www.verizon.com/about/news/introducing-fios-tv-one-experience-tv-its-best

  138. Juice Box says:

    Nevermind that FIOS ONE equipment is out in NJ now I just ordered my upgraded equipment, DVR records six shows now instead of two and a new wireless set top box for a room that I did not want to wire.

    FIOS Verizon Gateway FIOS Quantum-G1100 is the router they are shipping, shall see if it is better than the old Actiontech. Once it is installed I am going to swap it with a purchased one and save the $12 a month rental free.

    https://www.ebay.com/p/Verizon-Router-FIOSG1100/219528825?iid=182490943585&chn=ps

  139. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Pumps – Because then your Dad would be the most powerful man in the world instead of a common criminal ex-con deported from the US? Skyped you’re lovely Dad lately?

    Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahahahhaahha!!!!

    would hate to work for him or call him Dad.

  140. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    The bottom line with Pumps:

    It’s ALL Daddy issues. Pumps – be glad you don’t have a son, otherwise you would superimpose your shitty Dad-son relationship on top of your innocent and stupid, stupid boy.

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