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667 Responses to Weekend Open Discussion

  1. Orion says:


  2. Final Doom says:

    Oops…now, derivatives are beginning to blow up. All the hip, new trends start in Europe:

    “The worst global financial crisis in 70 years arrived in Saint-Etienne this month, as embedded financial obligations began to blow up.

    A bill came due for 1.18 million euros ($1.61 million) owed to Deutsche Bank AG under a contract that initially saved the French city money. The 800-year-old town refused to pay, dodging for now one of 10 derivatives so speculative no bank will buy them back, said Cedric Grail, the municipal finance director. They would cost about 100 million euros to cancel today, he said.

    Saint-Etienne is one of thousands of public authorities across Europe that tried to shave borrowing expenses by accepting derivatives deals whose risks they couldn’t measure. They may be liable for billions of euros, according to the Bank of Italy and consulting and law firms in France and Germany. As global economies climb out of recession, the crisis is hitting Saint-Etienne in central France, Pforzheim in western Germany and Apulia, an Italian regional government on the Adriatic. They may pay for their bets into the next generation.”


    Burn, mf’er; burn!!!!

  3. Cindy says:

    249 Veto yesterday

    “I went outside to take a break from the blog once today for some fresh air.
    Within minutes I was covered head to toe with volcanic ash.”

    No joke – In May of 1980, when Mt. St. Helens blew, I was living 40 miles south of Portland, Oregon – at least 100 miles away from Mt. St. Helens in Washington. Our cars and sidewalks were covered with the ash.

    We kept the kids indoors. It was nasty stuff.

  4. Simply Ravishishing HEHEHE says:


    Hahaha, those little bombs are going to be popping all over the world.

  5. Final Doom says:

    That oncoming light at the end of the tunnel is oblivion.

  6. Final Doom says:

    Bob Watanopoulos, the Oracle at Delphi.

  7. Final Doom says:

    That is not meant as an offer to sell securities or an attempt to give investment advice.

  8. sas3 says:

    Doom, I think the end of tunnel is more like a permanent plateau (at well below sea level), with a lot of dikes to keep us above water. It is probably true both figuratively for economy and geographically.

    Oh, well, we can at least tell our kids or grand kids, “You have it way too tough. In our time, we had it a lot easier than you. We had spare bedrooms, each one had a car, and … “

  9. SG says:

    HAMP Horror Show

    Let’s sum up the relevant numbers, highest to lowest:

    Number of homeowners in default or foreclosure: 7 million
    Number of homeowners the White House hopes to help with HAMP: 4 million
    Number of homeowners who’ve gotten trial modifications under HAMP: 1.4 million
    Number of homeowners who’ve gotten permanent modifications: 230,801
    So that’s 3.3% of homeowners in trouble that HAMP is actually helping.

    Before they were approved for their permanent modification, their total debt load amounted to 75.7%. That’s 1.2 million people who are now emerging from purgatory and headed to Hades. Sooner or later, anyway. They have yet to receive their final notices.

  10. Final Doom says:

    Ginger Pig bails out United yet again.

  11. Cindy says:

    Let me admit, I am baffled.

    The SEC waits – what – 2 years after the fact to go after GS? Magnetar was doing the same thing – are they mentioned?

    Is this because:

    A. The Dems are worried about November?
    B. The Dems want to get the financial overhaul passed?
    C. Time to crash the markets?

    And… Can the pension funds now go after WS for buying the recommended crap?

    Will they all say the rating agencies messed up?

    Will anyone be prosecuted?

    Since synthetic CDOs are created only when there is a buyer for the CDS, is Paulson in trouble too?

    Would they have to prove that he knew (requested) the crap was in the CDOs knowing they would tank BUT calling them AOK?

    Does anything happen here or is this similar the the disappointment I have been feeling about the Financial Crisis Inquiry Committee?

    Does this mean the FCIC will start acting a bit more like the Pecorra Commission it was designed after?

    Anyone have an opinion?

  12. SG says:

    Closer to home

    The Charleston Gazette — Fraud: Wall Street quicksand

    It began because the Cahaba River through Birmingham was polluted by sewage. Jefferson County officials decided to build modern sewer lines and treatment plants, at an estimated cost of $250 million.

    “But in a wondrous demonstration of the possibilities of small-town graft and contract-padding, the price tag quickly swelled to more than $3 billion,” the article says. “County commissioners were literally pocketing wads of cash from builders and engineers and other contractors eager to get in on the project, while the county was forced to borrow obscene sums to pay for the rapidly spiraling costs.”

    Eventually, 23 refinancing shuffles occurred — before the whole financial mess collapsed. “Between 2008 and 2009, the annual payment on Jefferson County’s debt jumped from $53 million to a whopping $636 million,” Rolling Stone relates. “. . . On a sewer project that was originally supposed to cost $250 million, the county now owed a total of $1.28 billion just in interest and fees on the debt.”

    Local government was forced almost to a standstill. Mass layoffs of county employees occurred. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission charged JP Morgan Chase with fraud. The firm paid a $25 million fine, plus $50 million to help laid-off Alabamans, and also wrote off $647 million it might have collected. Mayor Langford drew a 15-year prison term for taking $240,000 in bribes. Influence-peddler Blount got four years in a cell. Banker LeCroy was jailed for a previous scam in Philadelphia.

  13. gary says:

    Volcanic eruptions engulfing the planet, asteriods hurling towards earth and some f*cking 1diot will make a play for this:


  14. Cindy says:


    Felix Salmon – Goldman’s Abacus Lies

    “And although ACA should never have been so passive in terms of accepting names given to it by Paulson, it did reasonably believe, because it was essentially lied to by Goldman Sachs, that Paulson was in the deal to make money on the long side.”

  15. yo'me says:

    Citigroup Inc. (C 4.56, -0.25, -5.20%) is projected to report a loss of a penny a share in the first quarter, according to a consensus survey by FactSet Research.

    International Business Machines (IBM 130.63, -0.26, -0.20%) is expected to post earnings of $1.94 a share in the first quarter.

    Hasbro Inc. is forecast to report earnings of 17 cents a share in the first quarter.

    Eli Lilly (LLY 36.54, -0.18, -0.49%) is likely to post first-quarter earnings of $1.11 a share.

    Amylin Pharmaceuticals (AMLN 21.75, -0.62, -2.77%) is expected to report a loss of 28 cents a share.

    Brown & Brown (BRO 18.59, -0.26, -1.38%) is projected to post earnings of 30 cents a share in the first quarter.

    Crown Holdings is forecast to report first-quarter earnings of 28 cents a share.

    M&T Bank Corp. (MTB 84.25, -1.89, -2.19%) is likely to report earnings of 96 cents a share in the first quarter.

    Zions Bancorp is expected to post a loss of 91 cents a share in the first quarter.

    Halliburton Co. (HAL 31.64, -0.88, -2.71%) is projected to report first-quarter earnings of 25 cents a share.

    CRANE(CR 36.44, -0.89, -2.38%) is likely to report earnings of 49 cents a share in the first quarter.

    MMR McMoRan Exploration Co. (MMR 15.36, -0.49, -3.09%) is forecast to post a loss of 8 cents a share in the first quarter.

    Arch Coal Inc. (ACI 26.00, -0.67, -2.51%) is expected to post first-quarter earnings of 8 cents a share.

  16. Yikes says:

    Interesting that Fox News is trying to distance itself from the Tea Party movement


    Fox News executives said they canceled because they did not know that the Tea Party organizers were raising money based on Mr. Hannity’s widely promoted attendance at the rally. But Mr. Hannity’s producers at Fox were aware for months that tickets were being sold, said Chris Littleton, the president of the Cincinnati Tea Party, a nonprofit group. And Mr. Hannity mentioned the sales on his TV show a week ago.

    The incident caused consternation inside Fox News Channel, which is a unit of the News Corporation, over its perceived closeness to the antigovernment Tea Party movement, especially in its highly rated opinion shows.

    The network has faced regular accusations that it is promoting — not just covering — the Tea Party movement, something that its executives deny.

    Responding to a question from the media watchdog group Media Matters last week, News Corporation’s chief executive, Rupert Murdoch, said, “I don’t think we should be supporting the Tea Party or any other party.”

  17. Yikes says:

    for anyone thinking about mid-term elections … READ THIS!


    Even the high unemployment rate may be less important politically than you’d think. Seth Masket, a political scientist at the University of Denver, has found that, in midterm elections since 1950, there’s been no correlation between the unemployment rate and election outcomes. The key economic variable for voters, other studies show, has been income growth, or, more specifically, how fast per-capita G.D.P. is rising. In other words, if income growth is brisk enough, Democrats should benefit at the polls even if unemployment stays high. And Democrats do have an ace in the hole when it comes to keeping the economy moving: last year’s stimulus bill was backloaded, which means that close to five hundred billion dollars in stimulus money is still to be spent.

    That backloading of the bill was good economics: with the Federal Reserve doing less to pump up the economy, an extra half-trillion dollars in fiscal stimulus will help pick up the slack. It was also good politics, since much of that money will be flooding into the economy during the key second and third quarters.

  18. Jamal Van Jones says:

    Interesting that Fox News is trying to distance itself from the Tea Party movement

    State Media, Bah! It is disgusting how MSM does a hatchet job on the 53% of real Americuns who pay their taxes. Oh by the way, keep your grubby gubmint hands off my SS and medicare.

  19. onthebrink says:

    Anecdata: Saw a couple houses today in Ridgewood

    One at 815K was 3BR 2Bath, with practically no yard, no garage
    One at 1.25 had a galley kitchen and a powder room carved out of a coat closet. Not kidding- literally 3 x 5. The upstairs was well done though- 4BR with walk in closets and good baths.

    Havent they heard the recession is still on?

  20. make money says:

    Cindy 14

    This is what someone wrote to me:

    It is a “SYNTHETIC” CDO. Meaning the CDO is comprised of CDS contracts. For there to be CDS contract there has to be someone willing to short the securities. And guess what, I believe it is ok for Paulson to decide which securities he wishes to short. The buyers know there is someone on the other side of this bet. This is a witch hunt. Giving this witch hunt credence will embolden the continued destruction of capitalism by corrupt government. All for political gains?

  21. Confused in NJ says:

    They are already predicting colder then normal winter, resulting from the volcano eruption. The worst one for New England was 1815, which followed two years without summer, and food shortages.

  22. Cindy says:

    24 Make –

    I get that about the synthetic CDOs. The implication by Felix Salmon @ 17 is that when being presented, the buyers were led to believe Paulson was interested in the long side of the trade. That ACA would simply be following a decision of a seasoned investor.

    But as we know, Paulson was not “interested” in the CDOs as a money making proposition. Well, not long anyway.

    The question comes down to whether there is fraud involved. Paulson supposedly helped choose the losers.

    I just hope more of these trades (Magnetar etc. ) come to the forefront. It can’t hurt any.

    One does wonder, is the SEC doing something NOW that there is the threat that a financial bill could lesson their power?

    Interesting stuff…

  23. make money says:


    Could we repeat this? Anyone long wheat?

  24. Ben says:

    I have an ETF that has a lot of physical wheat in it. I bought it when Marc Faber posted a chart showing wheat at a 200 year low.

  25. speedkillsu says:

    U.S. bank chief mobbed by angry borrowers …The JPMorgan Chase & Co executive was at a congressional hearing in Washington when a lawmaker asked him who mortgage borrowers could turn to if they felt his bank’s employees were not helping them hold onto their homes.

    “Come to me,” said David Lowman, chief executive for JPMorgan Chase & Co’s home mortgage business in response to the question from Massachusetts Democrat Barney Frank.

    Minutes later, around 50 borrowers burst from the audience and presented Lowman with a 6-page document alleging his bank reneged on a pledge to help struggling homeowners.

    The activist who organized the protest said Lowman did not want to talk and left the hearing.

    “He ran. He ran like a dog with its tail between his legs,” said Bruce Marks of the Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America (NACA), which helps homeowners avoid foreclosure. “He was scared to death because he doesn’t really want to talk to homeowners.” …http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63C5LO20100413

  26. make money says:

    I have an ETF that has a lot of physical wheat in it. I bought it when Marc Faber posted a chart showing wheat at a 200 year low.


    Which ETF?

  27. make money says:

    15 April 2010

    Mr. Lloyd Blankfein
    Goldman Sachs
    85 Broad St.
    NY NY 10007

    Dear Mr. Blankfein:

    The next time I summon you to a meeting at the White House, I expect you will show up in person and on time.

    In the meanwhile, please enjoy my small gift from the SEC.


    Barack Obama
    President Of The United States

  28. Nomad says:


    The question is was the bucket filled with ground chuck or filet and who was supposed to disclose what the bucket was filled with and did they?

    Was there an independent party that rendered an opinion as to the quality of stuff put into the bucket or when individual portions of the contents of the bucket were sold off, did the sellers say point blank – caveat emptor?

    Furthermore, I had heard that there was supposed to be an independent entity who decided what to put in the bucket but in fact, that may not have been the case.

    This bucket may have been imported from rural america and if so, it’s possible someone forgot to empty the horse $iht out of it.

  29. Essex says:

    I feel Good. Got some new tires on the bikes. Yeah baby.

  30. scribe says:


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    10:30am to 2:00pm
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  31. Final Doom says:

    Cindy (14)-

    My call is that the outcome will be one that ultimately benefits GS. Beyond that, maybe they sacrifice a VP or two and pay some piddling amount in fines.

    As long as GS keeps seating the Senate Finance Committee with its hand-picked designees, the daylight bank robbery continues.

  32. Final Doom says:

    Piling on. It’s the right thing to do:

    “The Pandora’s box of the SEC’s action against Goldman, which if validated in court will effectively make the issuance of every hybrid CDO product quasi-illegal, will lead to an explosion of lawsuits against virtually any bank that was active in the structured finance space during the housing boom, adding to a fresh round of “non-recurring” charges to bank income statements. Case in point – Welt am Sonntag reports that the German government is considering suing Goldman Sachs, and has asked the SEC for information in its fraud case against the firm. According to the WSJ a spokesman for Angel Merkel said earlier: “First we must ask for the documents, then evaluate [them] and then decide about legal steps.” The action stems from the SEC’s disclosure the German IKB may have been illegally “taken advantage of” through Abacus, and probably other CDO transactions, leading to losses of $1 billion. In 2007 IKB had to be bailed out by the German government, in what some claim was the preamble to banking crisis that is now enveloping Europe (not sure if the sovereign catastrophe facing the EMU can also be blamed on Goldman’s CDO transactions, although Goldman will surely also be sued for that sooner or later). We have seen how eager Europe has been to scapegoat “speculators” and other Wall Street actors. We are positive that Germany will surely pursue action against Goldman as it will now provide a vent to pent up popular hatred of how the government has handled the crisis. At the end of the day, even if the SEC’s overture is nothing but a pr stunt cleverly orchestrated by Emmanuel Rahm, the unexpected fallout may well be where the real action is.”


  33. stu says:


    intelligeentsyy is overrratedd!

    aqswq’ew sksw!!!!

  34. Essex says:

    34. Ouch.

  35. meter says:

    Should be interesting watching Tea Partiers grapple with which entity they hate more – Wall Street or the government.

    Point being, either you want a government to protect you from the Goldman Sachs (rigged) version of structure finance and the equity market – or you don’t.

    Or maybe that’s a ‘feature’ of the free market.

    Ayn Rand bots, feel free to weigh in.

  36. meter says:

    structure s/b structured

    equity s/b equities

  37. meter says:

    @36 – Reversing the first and last names of the Chief of Staff and misspelling one of them in the process takes special talent.

    I actually like Zero Hedge, but credibility suffers when writers are sloppy with the details.

  38. veto that - Lawrence Yun 'The Panda', 'Next Fall' says:

    BREAKING NEWS – CNN is now reporting that the volcanic eruption is growing so large that the land masses making up Iceland, the UK and parts of Scandanavia have completely capsized and descended to center earth after being swallowed into a steaming crater of spitting magma and ice shards.

    Seconds later, the NAR of NJ issued a formal statement assuring that this event will have no effect on home prices in the Garden State.

  39. stu says:

    Coldman Sash is the diversion we need. i trust media to focus on this and lets hope peoplke forget the healt care, debt and depression!

  40. Mr Hyde says:


    Moving to Arizona?

    -Starting later this summer, U.S. citizens 21 and older can begin carrying a concealed firearm without a permit in Arizona.


  41. Barbara "just wait till fall" Believer says:

    9 pages of lis pen on trulia for Montclair….out of 27 pages of listings. Dude…

  42. safeashouses says:

    #39 meter,

    The Ayn Rand bots are too busy spanking it as Atlas shrugs. of course they fail to realize all they’ve gained from the government subsidies they’ve received through public education and state colleges, jobs, pensions they, their spouses, or their parents receive. Not to mention all of the income they derive from government contracts either directly through ownership of a company, or indirectly as their employer subsidizes them through the income stream of those contracts, or from clients seeking to minimize their taxes.

  43. Yikes says:

    make money says:
    April 17, 2010 at 2:03 pm


    Could we repeat this? Anyone long wheat?

    are you f-ing kidding me? gosh this would be terrible. we want to put a pool in our yard this summer, and are close to signing a deal.

    would be rather ticked off with a 50-degree august.

  44. Yikes says:

    question: someone has a 100k life insurance. you are to receive 50% of it.

    they die.

    do you have to pay taxes on that 50%?

  45. veto that - Lawrence Yun 'The Panda', 'Next Fall' says:

    not to veer off subject but isnt about time we get a 2012 antichrist pool started…

  46. Final Doom says:

    Everybody knows that the person who invented Bravo network is the Antichrist.

  47. Pat says:

    Did that person also invent 16 inning Mess games?

  48. veto that - Lawrence Yun 'The Panda', 'Next Fall' says:

    doom yep we can start there.

  49. Pat says:

    My husband complained because he had to drive to Baltimore to buy a car with me and miss the Mets game.

    We’re gone from 11 until 6.

    He comes home and gets an entire game out of it.

    He sees it as reward.

  50. veto that - Lawrence Yun 'The Panda', 'Next Fall' says:

    katie couric, vladamir putin and courtney love are def all on my list

  51. njescapee says:

    comeon V putin? :-)

  52. Cindy says:


    Goldman Serves One Master Better Than the Others: Jonathan Weil – Bloomberg

  53. Yikes says:

    thanks, Pat.

    Go Miami Heat!

  54. Cindy says:


    Goldman Serves One Master Better Than the Others: Jonathon Weil – Bloomberg

  55. veto that - Lawrence Yun 'The Panda', 'Next Fall' says:

    and im pretty sure Michelle O bama is beelzelbub.

  56. Cindy says:


    Yves Smith – Rahm Emanuel and Magnetar Capital: The Definition of Compromised

  57. safeashouses says:

    1 guy prefers onions, another group prefers Atlas….

  58. Cindy says:


    Denninger @ Market Ticker tags this one “Weekend Corruption Roundup.”

  59. For most families, daycare expenses form a huge chunk of their monthly budget, and it has become extremely difficult for them to see a way through it.

  60. yo'me says:

    There very well may be a rational explanation for why today’s fraud charges against Goldman Sachs Group Inc. should cause gold to fall.

    But it’s not immediately obvious what that explanation would be, since gold would have been expected to rise in the face of such news. Anything like this that shakes confidence in the integrity of the financial system should, other things being equal, be good for gold — a store of value that is not dependent on any government or financial market.

  61. yo'me says:

    Germany may take legal action against Goldman Sachs Group Inc. after the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission said it was suing the company on fraud charges, government spokesman Ulrich Wilhelm said. The German financial regulator, Bafin, “will ask the SEC for information,” Wilhelm, main spokesman for Chancellor Angela Merkel, said today by phone. “Then we will look at the records and consider possible legal steps.”

    Goldman was sued yesterday by U.S. regulators for fraud tied to collateralized debt obligations that contributed to the financial crisis. In the complaint, the SEC cited Dusseldorf- based IKB Deutsche Industriebank AG as a purchaser of part of the CDO at issue. In 2008, Germany’s state-owned KfW development bank pumped almost 10 billion euros ($13.5 billion) into IKB to shore up the German banking system. It’s too early to say whether any legal action will relate to IKB, Wilhelm said. “First we have to ask for information,” he said

  62. yo'me says:

    Goldman is well known for manipulating the market.Oil for one,buying and storing in tankers.It is all legal but now they got them on Subprime CDO.I hope they burn.

    as Clot wil say ” burn mdfkr Buuurn”

  63. yo'me says:

    U.K.’s Brown Follows Merkel in Reviewing Legal Steps Against Goldman Sachs

  64. hoodafa says:


    Rent a condo in Weehawken. An apartment on the floor below ours came on the market in summer of 2008 at $440k. Listing expired a few times until owners reduced ask to $392k last summer (2009). Still no takers. The listing has gone through at least four RE agents in the last 20-22 months.

    Ran into owner the other day and couldn’t resist asking if they’d found a buyer. “No; the listing expired recently, and all the Realtors(R) we’ve talked to have been telling us to reduce the price. But we refuse to do that as the market’s coming back. We are thinking of relisting the condo again soon.”

    “Good luck,” is all I could say before the elevator doors shut and I was left shaking my head in disbelief.

  65. Simply Ravishishing HEHEHE says:

    I’ll like to see how GS tries to paint this guy as some kind of rogue. Hahaha, you promoted the guy from VP to Executive Director. Sounds like tacit approval of his actions on GS’ part;)

    Re Cuomo and the Congressional Dems and Financial Reform: You have to ask yourself is this going to be the real deal, or is it going to be the typical dog and pony show where the threat of true reform is made in an effort to extort campaign contributions from Wall Street much as was done with the Hedge Funds before the 2008 election (they threatened to change tax treatment of money earned from hedge fund managers to ordinary income, once the got enough campaign contributions, this PROBLEM (actually it’s frigging crime) disappeared). Given the fact they’ve only released complaints on one deal and only mention one low level employee I think we are seeing another dog and pony show to appease the voters while extracting cash before an election. In all likelihood there’ll be all kinds of “drama” in Congress the next few months but the bill will be “delayed” due to “partisan” wrangling.

  66. Simply Ravishishing HEHEHE says:

    “There very well may be a rational explanation for why today’s fraud charges against Goldman Sachs Group Inc. should cause gold to fall”

    John Paulson started a huge gold fund last year. The sell-off in gold in part may have to do with his being mentioned as a player in the Goldman investigation.

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  68. Cindy says:

    73 HEHEHE – Civil charges aren’t going to get us anywhere. Then we do have the typical dog and pony show.

    The timing is suspect. Election chatter, financial reform hovering over everyone…

    But I am ever hopeful. There are many chiming in though. Steve Randy Waldman has a few posts at interfluidity today.

  69. Simply Ravishishing HEHEHE says:


    I am hopeful too, but given the past conduct of this Congress I doubt anything happens.

  70. Cindy says:


    HEHEHE – Check this out…

    Simon Johnson: Baseline Scenario

    “John Paulson Needs a Good Lawyer”

    “John Paulson was not the trigger man – it was Goldman and its executives who withheld adverse information from customers. But the entire scheme was Mr. Paulson’s idea – if he was in any legal sense the mastermind ( obviously he was, but can you prove it beyond a reasonable doubt?) – Then he is looking at potential conspiracy to commit fraud.”

  71. Cindy says:

    HEHEHE – Ah come on. We have to have some rule like “Good News Sunday” or something. A hopeful day.

  72. Final Doom says:

    yo (65)-

    I think it’s 100% due to Paulson’s massive gold positions, via GLD.

    I also think gold is now on sale.

    Accept only physical.

    This is not an attempt to sell commodities or offer investment advice.

  73. Final Doom says:

    Cindy (67)-

    That’s the first intelligent thing I’ve heard that lady say. Time for her to go back to Jupiter.

  74. Final Doom says:

    HE (73)-

    As Dylan Ratigan said, this guy’s a 28 y/o VP (cannon fodder).

    How the hell does he mastermind this operation with no prompting or supervision from above?

  75. Cindy says:

    81 – Cool huh. Someone FINALLY mentioned demand.

    Well….Where the he!! is the Financial Crisis Inquiry Committee with all of the Goldman stuff? If they step in here, I will be so pleasantly surprised.

    I’m looking for good news today, Clot.
    Dubbing it “Good News Sunday.” There has to be one day a week when we find something going RIGHT.

  76. Yikes says:

    the david farber fans will like this


    (assuming there are david farber fans)

  77. Final Doom says:

    Cindy (79)-

    Good news Sunday? No way. It’s seven days of suck, until we all come clean and start operating in reality instead of the land of pretend.

    On that note, I got the heartening news yesterday that the second coach I’ve worked with in three years has been arrested for selling kiddie p0rn. The whole Feds/seized computer/traumatized family thing…right in my own town.

    I’m thinking of working uder the assumption that everybody I encounter is a sicko, until they prove otherwise.

  78. Final Doom says:

    It’s time for Cramer to go away. Actually, it was time for that two years ago.

    If the financial system is ever set right, that guy should go to the same place all crooked stock touts go.

  79. Essex says:

    “Reality is a crutch for those who can’t handle drugs.” -Robin Williams

  80. Final Doom says:

    I can’t afford all the drugs I need to keep reality at bay.


  81. Cindy says:

    85 – Clot

    Ugly isn’t it. I see some pretty sick situations with families I deal with everyday. Half of the time, I just want to take the kids home and raise them myself.

    Sorry about the coach situation.

  82. Simply Ravishishing HEHEHE says:

    “As Dylan Ratigan said, this guy’s a 28 y/o VP (cannon fodder).”

    Yep VP to ED. I am sure Fabulous Fabs promotion was due to other things than doing things the “Goldman Way!”.

  83. Kim says:

    Does anybody have any info on The Grande in Hanover condos? They are located on Route 10 in Whippany and appear to be selling like hot cakes. I can’t understand why – they’re in a lousy location! What am I missing?

  84. Essex says:

    91. Free Kreplach but have you tasted the Kreplach???

  85. willwork4beer says:

    #85 Clot

    That assumption has been working for me for a number of years now. I developed it for the same reason you are now considering it.

    Now you know why I drink so fcuking much.

    I’m thinking of working uder the assumption that everybody I encounter is a sicko, until they prove otherwise.

  86. Essex says:

    Oy vey.

  87. yo'me says:

    It’s all Comrade O’s fault.I heard it from Fox and Rush.I got to believe them.

  88. Essex says:

    93. How’s about the ol’ everybody is OK til they try to touch me inappropriately.

    Show Clotpoll on the doll where Coach touched you….

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