From Marketwatch:
‘Vampire’ foreclosures are what’s keeping bank inventory high, analyst says
As if rising mortgage rates aren’t scary enough, analysts have identified a lurking threat to housing: “vampire” properties.
These “vampire” properties are bank-owned foreclosed homes in which prior owners continue to live, as defined by RealtyTrac, an online foreclosure marketplace.
Former owners live in 47% of U.S. bank-owned properties, according to RealtyTrac. These properties are “sucking the life out of the housing market,” said Daren Blomquist, vice president at RealtyTrac, an online foreclosure marketplace.
Vampire properties should not be confused with their creepy cousins, zombie foreclosures. According to RealtyTrac, zombie foreclosures are properties that have been vacated by the homeowner but are “languishing” in the foreclosure process. About one-in-five homes in foreclosure across the country have been vacated by the homeowner.
“The concern with these homes is that they are inevitable inventory that had been delayed from hitting the market,” Blomquist said. ”We don’t anticipate these properties will derail the housing recovery when they hit, but they will certainly take some of the steam out of the recovery.”
There are particularly high rates of “vampire” properties in Virginia, where they make up 72% of bank-owned homes and Nebraska, where they make up 68%. Many states with high shares of vampire homes have relatively short foreclosure processes and a low rate of homes with negative equity.
“Homeowners may have less time to prepare to vacate the home because of the shorter foreclosure process, but also may be more motivated to fight the foreclosure because they are more likely to have positive equity in the home,” Blomquist said.
FRIST
Damn you Chi!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Housing market isn’t zombie or vampire. It’s cadaver.
@BarackObama: Take note: @Obamacare is here to stay.
147.Brian says:
October 3, 2013 at 7:57 am
Official: Biker may have been trying to help SUV driver
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/02/us/new-york-bikers-attack-video/index.html
5. Hero!!! Misunderestimated.
Imma try’in hep ya brutha. Jus afta mah friends whup ur azz.
Hold the line Boehner. Hold the line.
4.anon (the good one) says:
October 3, 2013 at 8:42 am
@BarackObama: Take note: @Obamacare is here to stay.
148.Brian says:
October 3, 2013 at 8:05 am
I don’t think these guys were an OMG like the pagans or hells angels or anything. They were certainly risk takers..
It appeared to me from the beginning that these guys don’t even know each other that well. They just organize an event online throught social media or whatever and have fun in NYC. Like a flash mob on wheels or whatever. I maintian that some of the bikers over reacted, and Lien over reacted in turn. No evidence I’ve seen suggests Misses deserved to have his spine crushed.
145.Comrade Nom Deplume, knee jerk savant says:
October 2, 2013 at 11:29 pm
[135] Brian,
I know the risks. So do they. But if they are intent on putting me in imminent danger of grave bodily harm, I’m intent on putting them down. As least I take a few with me.
I don’t think these guys were an OMG like the pagans or hells angels or anything. They were certainly risk takers..
They were a lawless mob hell bent on causing trouble and breaking the law. I need no further evidence of this than the fact that so many of them went out of their way to obscure or remove their plates in preparation for this event. I watched all the videos, many of these riders were clearly fired up and looking for trouble.
It appeared to me from the beginning that these guys don’t even know each other that well.
All of the individual riders made a decision that day to associate themselves with this group, whether they personally knew someone else or not. They all made the decision to stay associated when individuals were breaking laws and putting other people in danger. Nobody on that ride can claim that they were not an accomplice to the crimes that took place. Clearly you are pretty familiar with the culture, so don’t feed me a line of bullshit that every body that showed up didn’t know EXACTLY what was going to go on that day.
They just organize an event online throught social media or whatever and have fun in NYC. Like a flash mob on wheels or whatever.
No, they were just a mob. I can’t believe you are condoning this behavior by calling it fun. Really … I’m shocked.
No evidence I’ve seen suggests Misses deserved to have his spine crushed.
Look, nobody does, but the guy appeared to make a conscious decision to stay engaged with a group that was forcibly restraining the SUV driver from escaping while the other riders were threatening and assaulting him. MeeZee was directly in front of the SUV. Why, if not to block escape? The guy has a long-standing history of reckless and criminal behavior. His “music” glorified drug dealing, violence, and thug behavior. He could have just ridden on, or pulled to the side. The story the family has said was that Meezee was going to help Cruz. Help what? Cruz didn’t fall off his bike, Cruz clearly precipitated the collision by brake checking the SUV. The fact that he looked back at the driver at the same time he slammed his brakes make me think, pretty clearly, that he intended to cause the collision and start trouble. So again, why was a guy with a long track record of criminal and driving offenses, driving without a license, probably on an illegal vehicle with no insurance, walking over to the vehicle? My money is that he wanted in on the action.
Frankly, I think that Lien showed incredible restraint. I hope, in that situation, that I wouldn’t be so furious as to plow over dozens of bikers, or sweep the whole lot of them off the road. If you watch the video, once Lien clears the bikes and riders that are immediately blocking him, he swerves around numerous bikers. Did he need to? No, he could have plowed over a dozen bikes easily. When they forced him off the highway onto the side streets? I might have almost expected Lien to just swerve left, right through the pack, which would probably left dozens dead. The guy knew he was going to get beat down, or worse, and didn’t use violence a second time. Sorry, but this makes me think that it is Lien who is in the right here.
If I’m in a bank, and you come in with three friends, and one of those friends pulls out a gun. Perhaps you had no idea that your friend was planning to rob a bank that day, but you decide to block the door anyhow. What does that make you?
@jschram71: Manhattan DA outrageously declines to prosecute biker thug charged by NYPD — before he’s even arraigned! http://t.co/XmejGl0BQO
10- Well said.
of course president not my fault, it is here to stay
Because once a federal program is created, the only way to kill it is to nuke DC. Department of education, DHS, and the multitude of bureaus that serve the same function but can not be combined. I’m sure if I looked hard enough there is probably still a horse and buggy department or erie canal comission.
Shocking: Fabius hates the first amendment too.
142.Fabius Maximus says:
October 2, 2013 at 10:38 pm
There is good and bad to this shutdown.
KKK can[‘t] get into Gettysburg, Good
Pain,
Remember the raisin reserve (or whatever it was called) from the 1930’s?
Have you watched all the videos from that day?
The Footage That the NYC Bikers Didn’t Want You to See
Grim,
Even though I have a predisposition to finding all Range Rover drivers in the wrong, you make a clear and convincing case.
Watch the last video in that set, which was from another ride, but the same video camera rider. They are running red lights, splitting lanes, driving on the wrong side of the road. They get to an intersection where a black car has the right of way to turn, and is turning. They have the red light.
What do they do?
They swarm the black car, preventing escape, and then harass the driver and damage the car. For what? He/She had the right of way, their light was red. Clearly they not only feel they are above the law, but they feel they have the right to vigilante “justice” when someone dares not back down.
Reckless disregard for law and safety.
Surprised more people didn’t get killed that day.
could somebody type the twitter version of comment #10? too long
I was just looking over recent Morris County foreclosures and noticed some strange goings-on. Several houses that went back to the lender for $100 with approximate judgement amounts far below the home’s value or sold to 3rd parties at amounts well above the approximate judgement. I can understand that some going back to the lender might be a cat-lady tear-downs, but the ones that were attractive enough to investors that they exceeded the approx judgement at sheriff’s sale mystify me. Why wouldn’t the owner just sell? Is that because they may be loaded up with defaulted second mortgages that don’t show up in the foreclosure listing?
20 – Second lien foreclosures.
Anyone count the number of bikers? Somebody tell New York’s Junior Governor Cuomo why a civilian might need more than 10 rounds.
While you’re at it, tell Nanny Bloomberg about how no one in his fair New York City might need a handgun for self defense. Especially since the NYPD just lets this kind of thing happen. I think there were about the same number of felons in that motorcycle gang as there are in Bloomberg’s “Mayors Against Illegal Guns” gang.
#20 – Unless you are aware of the standing in title of the foreclosing interest or have a title search, all you can do by looking at the minimal information you are viewing is guess. Perhaps the sale that you believe had equity was not even real estate but a right, title and interest.
#22 – Moose, so you are advocating shooting these bikers? Running them over was not sufficient? A mass shooting would have been a superior outcome?
Grim [21];
I thought the ‘$100’ recorded sale price was a just a token when the bank takes it back — avoids complication of trying to calculate transfer taxes on the sale price when they aren’t owed.
Lol – Grim they all should be mowed down for just being on the highway! Guilt by association, HANG THEM ALL!
30-yr [24];
I’m just saying that this is a vivid example why, even in fair New Mike City, it can be legitimate to carry a firearm for self defense. I bet Mr. Lien might wish he had one.
There were more than 10 bikers in the mob that attacked Lien. But Cuomo-tini doesn’t care. The State Police that guard him all still carry standard Glocks with factory 17-round magazine.
There was a boy racer pulled over on the highway this morning. His shiny little low riding egg beater had a negative rear tire camber of at least 5 degrees, and he had one of those 4 in. diameter exhaust pipes and an add on hood scoop. I was waiting for the Trooper to open fire on him for just being a show off.
Threaten my 1 year old baby girl and I’ll plow right over you just the same.
This was a safety demonstration. They are trying to raise awareness. They are providing a public service for free. Helping drivers pay more attention to the road.
18.grim says:
October 3, 2013 at 9:25 am
Watch the last video in that set, which was from another ride, but the same video camera rider. They are running red lights, splitting lanes, driving on the wrong side of the road. They get to an intersection where a black car has the right of way to turn, and is turning. They have the red light.
[28] That’s a lot of negative camber for the street, probably why the cop had to pull him over while he was going straight.
Everytime I see the boy racers zig zagging at 100 MPH I feel threatened and sometimes boxed in by them.
It is time to put a 50 cal under the hood?
Hey it must be the money!
“A motorcyclist who may be paralyzed after being run over during a clash between bikers and a Range Rover on a New York City highway has hired high-profile lawyer Gloria Allred.”
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/02/20783272-biker-injured-in-nyc-clash-with-suv-hires-celebrity-attorney-gloria-allred?lite
At 22 seconds in you can see what 5 degrees negative camber looks like on a street car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed4u_wUHvr8
I’m for CCW’s in the NY/NJ area. However, this issue has absolutely nothing to do with that. In fact, I think bringing it up here just hurts that cause. I think that if guns were involved, then the bikers likely would have been armed too and retaliated with just as much force resulting in a more gruesome scene.
I hear what you’re saying, and my father called me from Florida about it and he and all his cop and vietnam buddies all pack heat and think it would have solved the problem but I found numerous cases on the net where similar situations have escalated in states were open and concealed carry are legal and it didn’t solve anything.
In fact there is a case in Texas in 2007, in Fort Worth that escalated into a shooting…..of the automobile.
27.Anon E. Moose says:
October 3, 2013 at 9:49 am
30-yr [24];
I’m just saying that this is a vivid example why, even in fair New Mike City, it can be legitimate to carry a firearm for self defense. I bet Mr. Lien might wish he had one.
There were more than 10 bikers in the mob that attacked Lien. But Cuomo-tini doesn’t care. The State Police that guard him all still carry standard Glocks with factory 17-round magazine.
Joyce remember they are apparently still in business. thanks for the reminder. don’t forget there is nothing left to cut.
http://raisins.org/
you guys don’t like subaru, you guys don’t like Range Rover. what you enjoy is being assh@oles about anything all around
“I have a predisposition to finding all Range Rover drivers in the wrong,”
OMG, I had no idea until a moment ago that there are idiots who dial in tons of negative camber just for show? I guess form follows function would just be 3 f words that they don’t know or use. Jeez.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGlldDQyqTc
I heard this on the radio yesterday: there were more security forces ordered to block passage to the WWII Memorial than were ordered to rescue our people in Benghazi.
I will admit, my judgement on this issue has been clouded by my hatred for Range Rover drivers and Prius drivers.
I’m not particularly fond of Subaru drivers either.
37.anon (the good one) says:
October 3, 2013 at 10:09 am
you guys don’t like subaru, you guys don’t like Range Rover. what you enjoy is being assh@oles about anything all around
“I have a predisposition to finding all Range Rover drivers in the wrong,”
[10] and [29] — right on.
From the article cited in [5]:
“Edwards may have been trying to protect the driver of the SUV who had come under attack, according to one witness, a law enforcement official said.”
LOL yeah, sure — a “witness” who was one of the other thug motor-monkeys. These thugs were claiming from Day 1 that they didn’t do anything wrong and were the innocent victims of a madman in an SUV. Luckily the idiots recorded their crimes for all to see.
Gloria Allred . . . LOL. Only in America. But I think she’ll end up taking a loss on this one, because aside from a few apologists for the biker thugs, everyone in America clearly sees that what happened was a father trying to defend himself and his wife and baby girl from a pack of effing animals.
I don’t much like other drivers.
[35] “I think that if guns were involved, then the bikers likely would have been armed too and retaliated with just as much force resulting in a more gruesome scene.”
Perhaps. But these motor-monkeys clearly have no regard for the law anyway, so if they were inclined to carry a gun they would have done so (and who knows, many probably were doing so).
And if CCW were legal, I doubt most of those monkeys would have qualified to carry (most of them appear to not even been legal to drive). And sure, they may just ignore the law and carry anyway, but that’s no different than today, where they may already be doing that.
If this stuff keeps happening, I suspect it won’t be long until people just start picking off motards riding in packs, just on general principle.
did anyone say we didn’t like subaru? Nope just their typical driver, and like grim i’m predisposed to dislike those who drive range rovers. They tend to be jackasses. the only a-hole is you anon who comes in reposting your liberal saints word vomit without engaging in actual debate. their are a good number of regulars who don’t see eye to eye politically but we can occasionally engage in honest debate while you on the other hand are just a parrot for the party line.
RE # 41- Mieses hasn’t been charged with any crime. He was a bystander, and will be portrayed as a bystander in court, his previous issues in Massachusetts may not even be allowed in court. Gloria Allred would have not taken the case if she did not think that the perp the driver of the SUV did not have a few $$ to go after.
Again what happened between the first bump and the SUV driver using deadly force running over Mieses happened in less than one minute. There was something like 23 seconds between the first bump of the other motorcycle and the SUV running over Mieses with deadly force. The driver of the SUV panicked, which is understandable but he will end up paying for it $$$
All that matters is what happened in those 23 seconds and nothing after. THE SUV driver panicked after getting into a car accident with the biker who break checked him. The Porsecutor did not file changes on either the SUV Driver for leaving the sece and using Deadly Force.
Drivers Ed class I was told if someone is trying to car jack me or chase me and I am afraid to pull over I should drive to nearest police station, fire house or emergency room ER. Tons of cops/firemen.guards to save you. This driver appears to be aimlessly driving. He could of also jumped on bridge or tunnel as toll clerks are actually armed in NY.
Juice Box says:
October 3, 2013 at 10:03 am
Hey it must be the money!
“A motorcyclist who may be paralyzed after being run over during a clash between bikers and a Range Rover on a New York City highway has hired high-profile lawyer Gloria Allred.”
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/02/20783272-biker-injured-in-nyc-clash-with-suv-hires-celebrity-attorney-gloria-allred?lite
from the WSJ:
Obamacare—A Game-Changer in the Making?
The Wall Street JournalBy David Wessel |
What if Obamacare actually works? More precisely, what if the new health-insurance marketplaces called exchanges work?
They might just change the way most Americans get health insurance.
Admittedly, this is a big if.
The launch of the exchanges was marred by software glitches, confusion and outright resistance in some states. The Obama administration has delayed so many provisions of the law, formally known as the Affordable Care Act, that it resembles departure monitors on a stormy summer afternoon at New York’s La Guardia Airport.
Messy drafting and a tortured partisan path through Congress made the law hard to implement: Drexel University’s John Cannan needed 42 pages to describe the legislative history in the American Association of Law Libraries’ journal.
What if Obamacare actually works? More precisely, what if the new health-insurance marketplaces called exchanges work? David Wessel analyzes the implications on the News Hub. Photo: Getty Images
The whole experiment might collapse of its own weight even if Republicans fail in their efforts to eviscerate it legislatively.
But focus on the exchanges, the new electronic markets where health insurance will be sold the way flights are sold on Expedia or Orbitz. Eligible consumers—the uninsured, those who buy insurance on their own and certain others—will pick a policy from competing private insurance plans. Some will get government subsidies; some won’t. The theory is that more choice and more competition will yield better value.
“If insurers are able to provide low-cost coverage in the exchanges that people like”—even if that means limiting choice of doctors and hospitals to get lower prices—”larger insurers and employer plans may seek similar deals,” says economist Stephen Zuckerman of the Urban Institute think tank, which is monitoring the implementation of the law with a Robert Wood Johnson Foundation grant. “If they are successful, the exchanges could end up serving as a guide toward serious cost controls throughout the system.”
Given the current unpopularity of Obamacare, this may sound far-fetched. But flash back to the 2006 launch of the Medicare prescription-drug benefit.
Unlike conventional one-size-fits-all government Medicare policies, seniors pick from among competing private drug-insurance plans. Medicare Part D was unpopular at first. Today, there are few audible complaints. Consumers have a lot of choice. Because competition sometimes works as the textbooks suggest, premiums are lower than initially projected.
At the beginning of 2006, half the seniors surveyed by the Kaiser Family Foundation said they had an unfavorable impression of the benefit. Kaiser hasn’t repeated that poll, but a recent KRC Research survey found 90% of seniors enrolled in a Medicare drug plan described themselves as satisfied, and two-thirds of those said they were very satisfied.
“In terms of confusion, lack of knowledge, and misinformation, the current situation with exchanges resembles the situation that prevailed when Part D enrollment opened,” says Daniel McFadden of the University of California at Berkeley, a Nobel laureate who has studied the program.
The Obama health law is more complex. “There is a lot less government money going into the exchanges to lubricate their operations, and there was no organized political campaign against the Part D market,” he says.
Still, for people without insurance on the job and those who now buy insurance on their own, it won’t take much for the government-supervised exchanges to be better than the status quo—provided startup hiccups fade and enough insurers show up.
“The exchanges would open up a significant part of the health-services industry to competition on value, and that could be a big positive change, but not big enough because it applies only to individuals without employer coverage and very small employers,” says Stanford University economist Alain Enthoven, who long has championed harnessing competition to wrestle down health costs.
Most of the 55% of Americans who now get health insurance on the job can’t shop on an exchange. But Mr. Enthoven and others note a simultaneous development: A small but growing number of big employers—Walgreen Co., Sears Holdings Corp., Darden Restaurants Inc., International Business Machines Corp.—are planning to give employees or retirees vouchers to shop among competing insurance plans on private exchanges.
Some employers see this as a way to get out of the business of purchasing health care directly and, as suspicious workers realize, to limit their share of increases in health costs. Benefits consultants, such as Aon and Mercer, see a business in organizing private exchanges. Analysts at Booz & Co., the consultancy, say the exchanges hold particular promise for small and midsize employers that don’t have the negotiating clout with health providers that big companies do. Some insurers see the transparency of the exchanges as a way to focus attention on what actually is driving up health costs. (They blame providers’ prices.)
Americans have grown accustomed to online comparison shopping, as the overwhelming number who clicked on health-exchange websites demonstrates. Over time, more Americans may actually comparison-shop for health insurance—a new experience for many—choosing lower premiums for higher deductibles and narrower networks of doctors and hospitals or vice versa. They might like it. If they do, shifting basic Medicare to a similar approach might follow.
The government shutdown is temporary. The exchanges may be permanent.
Gloria Allred will get 1/3 of money plus expenses as per NY law. That is big bucks. The driver the rich guy I am sure has that range rover insured to the max and a big umbrella policy. Unless lawsuit payout is in excess of his auto + umbrella policy he has no need to hire a lawyer or follow this to closely.
The man in paralyzed for life, NYS is a no-fault state.
This is not about blame. Lets say knuckle head just fell out of his car door drunk as a skunk and high on drugs and landed in front of his range rover and go run over. NY is still a no fault state. That guys medical bills will be paid by NO FAULT automatically and then NO FAULT will attempt to collect from his insurance.
Not paying is not an option. Why cause penalty is losing your license to sell insurance in the state of New York and New York is usually the most profitable place to sell insurance. Plus they can fine and press charges.
Really interested to hear the 911 recordings.
Also – Expect that the NYPD will be named in the civil suit – Gloria can get a whole lot more money from NY than from Lien and the insurance companies.
By the way, also expect that Lien will be bankrupted by the legal costs.
Somebody should snap Gloria Allred’s spine. Ambulance-chasing wh0re.
The problem with people who drive Range Rovers and Prius’ and to some extent, Subaru’s, is that they are sheep. Just as Anon parrots the party line, he is a sucker to well designed marketing as well. People with blind faith like Anon, who can’t think for themselves and who rely on well placed television and print ads for their next move are very dangerous. Milgram and Pavlov would have a field day with him.
Still think the gubmint actually wants lawless gangs of thugs creating fear in the streets. Keeps the shrinking middle class docile and sheltering in place.
[45] “He was a bystander, and will be portrayed as a bystander in court”
Good luck selling that to the jury. Skittles, anyone?
“Again what happened between the first bump and the SUV driver using deadly force running over Mieses happened in less than one minute.”
As if a violent mob needs more than 1 minute to attack a man, his wife, and baby girl.
“The SUV driver panicked after getting into a car accident with the biker who break checked him.”
Um, yeah — he panicked because a violent mob of motor-monkeys starting attacking him while he was stopped in the car with his wife and daughter. Your so-called “panic” is also known as “self defense.”
And “brake checked” . . . that’s motard speak for intentionally causing a vehicular accident and/or intentionally and unlawfully restraining someone (i.e. kidnapping?). To motorcycle thug maybe that is common language, but the rest of America just considers it acting like a thug. And thugs are dealt with accordingly.
“Ladies and gentleman of the jury, after an expertly crafted brake-check, the driver of the SUV, perhaps out of jealousy for not being able to pull off such an impressive feat of vehicular skill, must have lost his mind in a fit of envy. The promising young aspiring rapper, D.J. Mezee, was then cut down in the prime of what was sure to be a productive and lawful life . . .”
If I drive an electric car, does that mean I dream about electric sheep?
and stock price went down after the announcement below. punished for for being astonishing successful. broke its own record of first weekend sales iPhone. it has already warned that it won’t be able to meet the demand for the new iPad and new mini iPad with retina display for Xmas season. all haters saying that supply is limited…they sold 9million phones in 3 days!
@asymco: “Apple Now Holds 10% of All Corporate Cash: Moody’s” http://t.co/bAUfjAyH6Z
The big shocker will come when Allred names Cruz and the other bikers in the civil suit as well.
“The big shocker will come when Allred names Cruz and the other bikers in the civil suit as well.”
No honor among thugs.
Looks like Lien is a founder of Skrill.com, a company worth $50 million.
Positive signs for N.J. commercial real estate market
http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2013/10/positive_signs_for_nj_commerci.html#incart_river_default
The odds are in favor of New Jersey’s commercial real estate market gradually pulling itself out of its recession and post-recession slump, with the office sector clearly trending upward and maybe turning a corner. That’s according to Kevin Thorpe, chief economist at national real estate services firm Cassidy Turley, who spoke at the firm’s New Jersey headquarters in Chatham late last month.
“The future is brightening without question in New Jersey and I’m not the only one saying this,” he said.
Thorpe said state-wide vacancies are down to just above 15 percent, reflecting the first improvement since vacancies hit their 21st century peak last year. The North and Central Jersey markets rank among the top 10 nationally in demand for office space. New Jersey’s need for office space has grown every month for more than a year, despite the fact that the nation’s overall demand has, according to Thorpe, been “subpar” over the course of the recovery.
Lien should do a preemptive strike. Sue the bikers. They won’t have any representation in civil court, nor insurance to cover, unless the ambulance chaser defends them in order to secure a share of $$$. If Lien wins a judgement of let’s say $10MM. No lawyer will go near the bikers as his/her share of the profits will immediately be taken by the first judgement.
Grim only if you have seen attack ships on fire off the shoulders of orion.
JB the difference between you and Lib driving or thinking of driving electric cars were the fact that you did it as an economic decision not an emotional one to reinforce your superiority of you and your like minded friends.
Statement from Lien’s wife:
Our plan last Sunday was to celebrate our wedding anniversary by having a nice family day out with our two-year-old daughter. Unfortunately, instead, we were placed in grave danger by a mob of reckless and violent motorcyclists.Our sympathies go out to the injured motorcyclist and his family. However, we were faced with a life-threatening situation, and my husband was forced under the circumstances to take the actions that he did in order to protect the lives of our entire family. Our fear for our lives was confirmed when the incident ended with the ruthless and brutal attack on my husband, me, and, most importantly, our two-year-old child.
We know in our hearts that we could not have done anything differently, and we believe that anyone faced with this sort of grave danger would have taken the same course of action in order to protect their family.”We would like to thank the brave citizens who risked their own safety to intervene on our behalf. They truly helped save our lives and prevented my husband from suffering further injury.
We also appreciate and are moved by the outpouring of love and support so many have expressed here in New York and around the country.”We would ask that the public and the media to respect our privacy at this difficult time and allow my husband to recover from his injuries. From here on forward we would ask that any further inquiries regarding this unfortunate incident be directed to our lawyers…
I’m thinking I might buy a gun after all. I really need to start packing heat when I go out for rides.
Open or concealed? Hmmmm.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/wife-suv-driver-attacked-bikers-upper-manhattan-issues-statement-terrifying-ordeal-article-1.1475062
Cell phone is probably all you need. Pull over, exchange paperwork, call the cops for a police report.
Usually how most folks handle traffic accidents.
Pain [60];
an emotional one to reinforce your superiority of you and your like minded friends.
+1
I always like to bring up the example of the Prius v. the Civic hybrid. The Civic is by any objective measure a superior compact hybrid, but the Prius outsold it consistently. Except for minor badging, the Civic hybrid looks like its conventional engine sibling. The Prius does not.
What use is saving the planet if, when you drive down the street, people don’t know that you’re saving the planet?
64 – says the guy who declared open season on riders.
I’m thinking of the BMW i8 purely as an economic decision. My wife for some reason doesn’t see the economic argument.
To this day my Heckler and Koch cycling jersey is my favorite suit to hit the road in.
Read what I wrote again:
The real tragedy here isn’t what happened to the guys that got run over, it’s that this now means it is open season on riders.
Aside from being a snarky comment about the thugs, it’s a pro-rider comment. Most riders aren’t the thugs seen in the video, but based on the visibility of this event, might be treated as such. Because right now, in a lot of people’s minds – street bike = thug.
1970 – Ride a Harley or a chopper and you were a criminal Hells Angel or Pagan.
2013 – Ride a Harley and you are an accountant with a mid-life crisis.
2013 – Ride a Sport Bike and you are a gang banger thug
I’d like to think I’m a pretty good student of public perception, which is why I tend to obsess about these kinds of polarizing events here. I just call it how I see it.
Prosecute Lien
One thing I hate most about bikers, is when you’re out on a peaceful weekend — either walking or driving with the windows down — and one of them cranks up the exhaust to deafening levels.
What a bunch of obnioux mofos. Take that crap out on the highways where no one can hear you please.
“obnoxious”
71 – Was Cruz justified in brake checking the SUV?
grim I have had a name for the doofuses on sport bikes for years, organ donors. When I had my honda interceptor back in the early nineties we got them cause it was a cheap way to go fast, but the guys I rode with never did a wheelie down route 80 at 5 pm on a saturday. We did our stupid crap when no one else was on the road safer for us and others. 5 am on a sunday in july means no one is on the road and we would do 120mph out to western NJ for our country rides. Cops never bothered us would be out in Blairstown by 545 for breakfast at the diner. now if we did it at 8am that would be a much different story.
Also expect that the “organizers” of the event (Hollywood Stuntz) will be named in the civil suit. Probably why they’ve tried to preemptively take down websites and delete everything online associated with this (aside from the fact that most of it is incriminating).
@BarackObama: “House Republicans need to stop careening from one crisis to the other … I’m tired of it.” —President Obama on the #Shutdown
thank god the shutdown has a hashtag
Yeah, I know that as a bicyclist, my two wheels are not cool enough for me to belong to the brotherhood of bikers. Even though I’ve probably logged more miles on the road than most motorcyclists (I’m well over 15,000 miles pedaled, maybe 20k – that’s NY to Los Angeles and back at least 3 times), and that I’ve been hit by cars, run off the road by cars, involved in numerous near misses, harassed by jackasses in cars, personally seen people get hit by cars, had a close friend run over by a car (have you ever seen muscle and tissue squeezed right out of a tear in someones quad), ridden 25+ miles with my ass bloody ass cheek hanging out having been run off the road into loose gravel, etc.
Yet, I still I stop at every light, use hand signals, make sure I can ride fast enough to keep up with the flow of traffic, obey motor vehicle rules on a bicycle, not because I’m a f*cking nerd (I am), but because I hope that by showing and giving a little bit of respect to motorists, I can get a little bit in return. Did I mention I have a motorcycle license? To this day, every time I see him, I ask my old neighbor to sell me his BMW R50S so I can turn it into a cafe racer.
My honest opinion on this kind of bullshit? I think it ruins it for everybody else, and maybe I should be glad I’m not cool enough to be part of the crew. I’m sure there are plenty of motorcyclists that share my opinion. The last time I felt the need to have to barrel down the sidewalk or pop a wheelie in traffic, I was 14 years old on my Mongoose.
grim that is why I ride a mountain bike. the only problem for me is the occasional entitled hiker or wanna be cowboy on a broken down nag. the only time I worried for wife’s safety is when she bought a road bike, she does not have nearly as many miles as you but a good number of the same stories.
re: Lien’s wife “life-threatening situation”
No charges filed attempted murder yet so the Prosecutor does not think so, they were in a locked vehicle and fled the scene of an accident using deadly force. Deadly force has a legal definition in NY, a very strict interpretation, it may not cover I crapped my pants because I was afraid of some black guy I just hit with my SUV. It may play well in the NY Post and the Media but in the court room it will be different, everything that occurred during those 23 seconds will be analyzed in painstaking detail as to why he panicked and gunned it running down 3 bystanders. Lien better open his wallet for the best defense money can buy, he will be penniless once the civil court system is done with him.
JJ will get jealous that you are talking to me
joyce says:
October 3, 2013 at 12:24 pm
thank god the shutdown has a hashtag
Without fail everyday while living in Hoboken I had to dodge or lock up my tires becuase an entitled bike rider or pedestrian felt it was OK to walk out into traffic wearing headphones and not even moving their head left or right to see if a car was approaching at terminal velocity. The Bike riders blew every traffic sign and signal. Plenty of time I almost ate my steering wheel because of it.
In the burbs nobody dares walk out onto the road like that.
Anon your constitutional professor god is about the only thing more mendacious than you
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/03/politics/government-shutdown-main/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
I honestly have never seen such a total lack of leadership ability and I work in pharma.
79 – What happened on the street after Cruz brake checked Lien and before Lien plowed over Miesses is most important.
You can’t just decide the bikers were scary looking and decide to run them over.
If the bikers physically threatened him and his family, then it’s justified.
I’m surprised someone wrote that on twitter for you to copy/paste
82.anon (the good one) says:
October 3, 2013 at 12:43 pm
JJ will get jealous that you are talking to me
Re [77];
careening from one crisis to the other
The complete vacuum of self-awareness is stunning.
Deadly force has a legal definition…running down 3 bystander
Bystander also has a legal definition (a chance onlooker with no concern with the business being transacted), and it does not apply to this situation.
All that’s visible in the video is a bunch of guys stopped, looking back to see what has just happend. They even let a white van go through while all this is going on. If there was any threatening or slashing of tires going on, it’s not visible in the video in the beginning.
88.grim says:
October 3, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Deadly force has a legal definition…running down 3 bystander
Bystander also has a legal definition (a chance onlooker with no concern with the business being transacted), and it does not apply to this situation.
That sums things up perfectly.
“there were more security forces ordered to block passage to the WWII Memorial than were ordered to rescue our people in Benghazi.”
“Brian says: October 3, 2013 at 8:53 am
Hold the line Boehner. Hold the line.”
By the time all is said and done, the only thing Boehner will be holding are his gonads.
@JamilSmith: Speaker Boehner will violate Hastert rule to pass a debt-limit increase, anonymous colleagues tell the @nytimes: http://t.co/0O0XZLlWtL
@thecaucus: Boehner told colleagues he was determined to prevent default, willing to pass w/ combination of Rep, Dem votes http://t.co/nnJt4TLhVM
Brian says:
October 3, 2013 at 8:53 am
Hold the line Boehner. Hold the line.
HAHAHA
Obamacare makes happily paying law student into welfare recipient. BRAVO!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304906704579111433416080064.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion
Just at a Pizzeria for Lunch, TV was blaring CNN and everyone was watching. I get nervous when the herd is paying attention.
The time for some cash withdrawals has come. You heard it here first, start the bank run.
The banker already ran. The bikers caught up with him though.
94.Juice Box says:
October 3, 2013 at 2:02 pm
Just at a Pizzeria for Lunch, TV was blaring CNN and everyone was watching. I get nervous when the herd is paying attention.
The time for some cash withdrawals has come. You heard it here first, start the bank run.
Oblamey really getting unhinged; personal attacks now, stock market will crash, it’s Boehner’s fault, very shrill and incoherently angry. Forget the Dem or Repub label, this guy is a total, total, arrogant and narcissistic d0uche with total disregard for anything other than “me”. His leadership abilities are completely empty and useless. His message is nothing but 100% deflection all the f.ucking time.
There was a woman complaining on the news last night that if she doesn’t get her WIC check on time, she’ll have to quit school and get a job to support her kid. She was astounded. I’m sure anon and NBC are proud of the mentality they’ve helped to cultivate.
Painhrtz – Disobey! says:
October 3, 2013 at 2:00 pm
HAHAHA
Obamacare makes happily paying law student into welfare recipient. BRAVO!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304906704579111433416080064.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion
In court you trial people separately. If at the moment of impact the rider who was paralyzed was in a legal lane, at the time was not attacking him and he ran him over case closed end of story financially he is responsible.
Lets say for arguement sake President Obama was crossing street and as he was escaping from bikers he was in his way so he just ran him over.
I am not saying he is criminally liable. But he ran the guy over. Folks normally carry umbrella insurance equal to their next worth. If guy is worth $50 million his insurer and re-insure and maybe excess reinsurer is on the hook and they will have lawyers fighting it. As long as not criminal driver should not care or be involved.
If I was on jury I would say give me the cost of his estimated medical bills for life. Give me his estimate lifelong income AND his wife’s estimated lifelong income as she cant work as she is stuck taking care of. That number BOOM = Automatic regardless of anything.
Now here is hard part Pain and Suffering BLAH that you pay based on who caused it, intent, that is the hard part. It could be zero if you 100% believe driver or a lot if you believe biker.
Either way no way this is getting anywhere near 50 million. The drive can be back in his SUV on way to tea and biscuits by Friday. Pardon me can you pass the Gray Poupon?
Anon want a cracker?
By design, the house of representatives, (which Boehner is Speaker of) is the people’s representation in government. Whether or not any one of us likes it, he and the ones who stand behind him were put there by us.
Scores of Democrats lost their jobs in the House in 2010 to people who promised to exactly this.
They are our voice.
92.anon (the good one) says:
October 3, 2013 at 1:31 pm
@JamilSmith: Speaker Boehner will violate Hastert rule to pass a debt-limit increase, anonymous colleagues tell the @nytimes: http://t.co/0O0XZLlWtL
@thecaucus: Boehner told colleagues he was determined to prevent default, willing to pass w/ combination of Rep, Dem votes http://t.co/nnJt4TLhVM
Brian says:
October 3, 2013 at 8:53 am
Hold the line Boehner. Hold the line.
re # 96 – O is trying his best to to draw Boehner out into a public name calling match, however Boehner was around when Gingrich shut down the government, so I don’t Boehner is going to bite. O was a member of the “New Party” back then and just starting his political career in Illinois.
Besides Boehner has the trust of his colleges that his is a better chess player than Barry.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/10/john-boehner-tells-gop-moderates-to-trust-me/
102. Don’t forget Boehner can cry on demand too.
Govt has a lot of workers who drive me nuts.
I got my check this week for my Oil Burner/Oil Tank ruined in Sandy, after one year of paperwork when they should have paid me right away as it was covered as part of disaster relief
Anyhow I would like to thank myself for my my oil burner. I paid a 9K estimated tax payment in September to Uncle Sam and two weeks later got almost 9k for my oil burner.
To Grim.
Time for a new headline ” Zombie Forclosures”
http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2013/10/half_of_foreclosed_homes_in_ne.html#incart_m-rpt-1
Whoops I did not realize you ran the story.
It looks like shots were fired inside the capitol building.
Someone doesn’t seem to be too happy right now.
Shelter in place in DC. Another gunman?
104 – I didn’t that’s a new one that is NJ focused, I’ll throw it up on the main page later, has some very surprising #’s.
Not all of the facts are out yet, granted. But from what I do know/have heard…anybody who can conclude that Lien should be prosecuted needs to get f.ucking brake checked.
These guys ride around in large numbers creating an intimidating environment (surrounding your car/blocking your exit after the brake check incident, etc.) … unclear if they were threatening him I think but must have done something to cause him to freak out…this is a 5’2 asian guy who weigs 120 pounds soaking wet…with his wife and 2 year old daughter in the car. No doubt in my mind I am running those clowns over, maybe give them a heads up honk and waive to get out the way…but I am out…see ya. I’ll take my chances in court with my spotless criminal record, respectable career, etc. vs the biker rapper dudes with no license plates. F.uck that.
Interesting – So Range Rover Driver is a Chink. Since the day of the incident this site has not had a Chink-Bot Cyber attack. I wonder if he was the chink spamming this site? They should bring this up in his trial.
ccb223 says:
October 3, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Not all of the facts are out yet, granted. But from what I do know/have heard…anybody who can conclude that Lien should be prosecuted needs to get f.ucking brake checked.
These guys ride around in large numbers creating an intimidating environment (surrounding your car/blocking your exit after the brake check incident, etc.) … unclear if they were threatening him I think but must have done something to cause him to freak out…this is a 5’2 asian guy who weigs 120 pounds soaking wet…with his wife and 2 year old daughter in the car. No doubt in my mind I am running those clowns over, maybe give them a heads up honk and waive to get out the way…but I am out…see ya. I’ll take my chances in court with my spotless criminal record, respectable career, etc. vs the biker rapper dudes with no license plates. F.uck that.
curious but maybe it was a cultural thing don’t dictators and strongmen buy range rovers for instances just like this. So Lien could have just been acting as any elite person from his ancestors country of origin.
Sorry could not resist thugs were thugs, guy acted in what he thought were his best interests, thug got paralyzed, asian guy got beat down, America and NJRER got veklempt.
A dad out for a Sunday drive on his first wedding anniversary was beaten and slashed by a vicious mob of motorcyclists in upper Manhattan who dragged him from his SUV in front of his wife and 2-year-old child.
So Lien knocked up his girl friend then never married her till kids was one year old. Scum bag.
Also problem is he is so little and tiny. I once read that small hispanic and asian male cops as well as smaller female cops use their weapons more. They have only one choice when confronted that is to shoot, attack, run over. This guy by being a rice eating shrimp could not handle this man to man so he ran over them. I would sue his Mom and Day too for not feeding him real food as a kid.
Someone needs to put a Lien on Liens house today. Also I noticed he was not attacked till after he ran over three people. Why did he not stop earlier? Also just so he could avoid a fist fight he tries to murder three people. Just take your beating like a man. You hit a biker, you get punched. Were you asleep that day in school.
Only two days and the pot boils over.?.break out the popcorn. Hopefully no bystanders.
112 – Thank you JJ. As always, I appreciate your expert analysis. You hit all the important points.
Frankly I’m surprised everyone here is defending Lien. I would have thought more people who blog here would have liked to see elitist Range Rover driver bankers get beat downs.
Crazy shit, female shooter with a child in the car.
[114] No, I’d much rather see a bunch of thugs get a spine-crushing from a young family they tried to terrorize.
@BarackObama: Those were not gunshots you just heard. It was the corks flying from mine and Michele’s champagne bottles celebrating the future Democratic victory in the House.
Was it just some soccer mom who made a U-Turn in the White House driveway?
How to you exactly “try and ram” a barricade?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/03/uscapitol-lockdown/2916679/
Someone circulating an image of a twitter feed from a few days ago (now deleted) that includes the following tweet:
@miistawriight Dude in a range ran ovr homie n 3 bikes after dudes punched his mirror n kicked the jeep……. We caught the range driver tho
she could not get enrolled into Obamacare and lost it, just lost it. Doesn’t matter ,she is dead now procedures were followed and it was the republicans fault.
I’ve got a different off-topic debate: flu shots
My family has been getting flu shots for the last several years, and not getting the flu. Then someone at my mother in law’s Chinese church who allegedly works in the research side of some pharma company tells her “don’t ever get flu shots”. No evidence or even specifics about what she’s worried about but that’s good enough for my mother in law. My attitude is to not trust nonscientific advice delivered in between sessions of gullible people singing about 2000 year old fairy tale stories.
There are hundreds of reports about Flu Shot myths that I’ve already googled. Has anyone here seen a legitimate rational argument against taking flu shots?
#75 “Cops never bothered us would be out in Blairstown by 545 for breakfast at the diner.”
Small world. I used to hear you guys flying down Owassa Road in Stillwater from my house a couple of miles away. I like the sound of fun, so it never bothered me.
Ragnar,
The problem is that the flu shot does not always cover the strains of the flu that kicks so many people’s asses each winter. Though, sometimes they guess right and then having the shot is very beneficial. From my personal standpoint, everyone in my family has gotten the shot for the past 15 years or so (since Gator is asthmatic) and no one has gotten the flu. I also can’t remember anyone who has gotten the flu in recent years who had the shot. Though, I’ve heard otherwise from some second hand.
Owassa road I used to hunt around there couldn’t have been us but you never know.
Rag from my point of view wife and kids get it so I don’t. Depending on your immune reaction you may get some flu like symptoms. For me I almost always have a reaction plus I travel so much there is no guarantee I was innoculated with the correct strains. They represent a best guess from population samples so there is always a chance I may get it anyway.
discussed this before. abundance of easily available guns and absolute lack of support to address the mental health crisis
grim says:
October 3, 2013 at 3:28 pm
Crazy shit, female shooter with a child in the car.
30 year heading back down to 4.25%
I got the flu shot for the first time last year and I felt absolutely miserable. Fever, chills, muscle aches, headache, back pain. Lasted about 24 hours or so.
Didn’t get the flu though.
Hospital made my wife get a flu shot before they discharged her from maternity, pediatrician told me to go get one before the little one was discharged, so I did.
Thought about heading over the the CVS to get one the other afternoon, but questioning whether or not I’ll have the same reaction.
Anon [125];
abundance of easily available guns
In Washington DC? Only if she got it from the local NBC News studios.
Clown.
Was looking at the pictures of the car. Relatively new Infinity with CT plates I think (front page of cnn.com)
The End Is Nigh (JJ Lactation Edition): editor’s note……helluva lot different if it was a male kid….
http://nypost.com/2013/10/02/mom-ill-breastfeed-until-daughter-is-10/
also…once kid 2, we have been told that there is no nutritional or immune system effect……Q: did she harvest the placenta?
If there was any threatening or slashing of tires going on, it’s not visible in the video in the beginning.
Forward to 3:00 in the video, SUV appears to lose the tire, a couple bikes move out of the way of a tire tread in the right lane, appears to still be rolling, video biker turns right to look at it and gets it on camera.
Please don’t tell me the woman was from Passaic and on welfare and snap
re # 130 – Grim 3 minutes? The first 50 seconds of the video is what will count not the aftermath of a sissy boy would decided to use lethal force on bystanders 20 seconds after a minor fender bender with some of Obama’s sons out on a Sunday drive.
He earns a base salary of $153,000. On top of that, he collects a pension of $69,000. Yes, it is odd that a man could take retirement benefits before retiring, but this is New Jersey and that is the law. That pushes DiVincenzo’s annual take to $222,000.
Now for the really sweet part: He also has a magic credit card that allows him to buy airline tickets, meals at fancy restaurants and golf outings — all paid for with political donations. In the past decade, DiVincenzo has run up a bill of about $250,000 on the magic card, according to a review of public documents by The Star-Ledger’s Matt Friedman.
What’s included? At this point, the public can get only a peek at a four-month period, from May to September of last year.
During that time, he charged 110 meals to the card, a pace that makes him a one-man economic stimulus plan for the region’s restaurants and pubs.
The flight to Puerto Rico was for the annual Super Bowl weekend, where DiVincenzo presides over a meeting of his political allies. And there was golf, 28 times.
Even DiVincenzo couldn’t justify his use of the magic card for his health club membership, so he reimbursed that money after the Election Law Enforcement Commission started asking for records. Same goes for use of the card to buy a tuxedo.
One thing is for sure: This limited peek at DiVincenzo’s use of the magic card is alarming enough to warrant an investigation by the commission, or the state attorney general, or both.
Photo of the range rover missing the front right tire:
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1377470_596422643750109_733469809_n.jpg
@NancyPelosi: All Members and staff, we are in temporary lockdown as Capitol police work quickly to secure the area. Please stay safe.
Regarding the shooting in D.C., in the absence of proof to the contrary, please assume that this lady was a member of the Tea Party.
Grim that is the wheel that ran ove the three motorcyles.
are the odds of dying from the flu shot itself or the flu the same?
Madam Queen is at it again
103.JJ the Welfare Queen says:
October 3, 2013 at 2:31 pm
they should have paid me right away as it was covered as part of disaster relief
Hindsight being 20/20 I’m wondering what Lien should have done differently. Maybe “accidentally” toss the RR into reverse and just let it move backwards at idle. I’m sure the bikers behind would have quickly and safely parted and then what would be the bikers’ next move?
From the NY Post:
Cops find biker who ‘beat and knifed’ driver
After an intensive search, police have found the chrome-helmeted “motor-psycho” who they say beat and knifed a young Internet exec following a high-speed, caught-on-video chase up the West Side Highway, two sources told The Post.
Reginald Chance, 38, of Brooklyn, has lawyered up and is expected to surrender Thursday or Friday, according to law enforcement sources speaking on condition of anonymity.
Chance was the prime target of a four-day probe into Sunday’s shocking motorcycle road rage attack — an assault that left Alexian Lien, 33, pummeled and slashed on the pavement near 178th Street as his wife and two-year-old daughter cowered terrified in their black Range Rover.
Video of the attack — taken by the helmet-mounted camera of fellow biker Kevin Bresloff, 37, of Bellport, Long Island — depicts a man who cops say is Chance committing the bulk of the violence.
As the camera rolls and Lien is forced to a stop by surrounding cycles, the seething biker removes his chrome-colored biker helmet and uses it to bash in the driver’s side window.
Just before witnesses say the chrome-helmet swinging man pulls Lien from the car, the video abruptly ends, turned off, cops say, by Bresloff so as to avoid creating an incriminating record of the ensuing assault.
Chance’s Facebook page says he is from Guyana, and that he works as a driver and supervisor for Bimmy’s sandwich shop in Queens.
Meanwhile, additional videos and photographs taken by neighbors and shocked drivers are incriminating additional bikers — including some who have already claimed to cops that they were not involved in the attack.
Those include The Post’s page one photo, sent to the newspaper anonymously — and to investigators at Washington Heights’ 33rd Precinct as well.
Sounds like the cops have the HD video from Kevin’s GoPro:
Armed with a search warrant for video, detectives searched Bresloff’s home in Bellport and seized a GoPro helmet camera, two laptop computers, a digital camera and a cell phone, police said.
– See more at: http://www.metro.us/newyork/news/local/2013/10/02/police-make-headway-in-bike-gang-assault-investigation/#sthash.SVcUZ6G0.dpuf
So a renegade gang of cycle punks tried to crash the White House gate today?
It’s all Boehner’s fault.
Why is no one discussing the fact that default is actually the most intelligent and beneficial thing we can do?
uh…right…default would actually only help regular citizens…
[14] Joyce,
A fellow alumnus and fed employee was posting the WaPo screed about how we should amend the constitution to deal with these logjams of differing opinion. In essence, now that the dems are the majority, it should be easier to steamroll their agenda through the opposition. I’m sure Fabius feels similarly.
I replied by all means, convene a Con-Con. But be careful what you wish for!
re 3 146 -Clot I already called for the bank run what else do you need?
re # 148 – Nom – Do you get nervous when fascism comes into fashion? I do. At least I can go back to the motherland…
Yeah pulling cash now.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-newt-gingrich-jay-leno-obama-congress-20131003,0,7099904.story
NY State Senator Adriano Espaillat calling for legislation to limit the number of motorcycle riders that can ride together in a group.
Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz calling for legislation that will fine gas stations for allowing non-street legal vehicles to refuel.
Grim,
I get the flu shot in the evening. I always end up with a mild fever and some pre-flu-like soreness. It usually completely fades by morning after a good night’s rest. I’ve had a lot of luck at Costco with it. I think last year they charged $15 for it.
“Hindsight being 20/20 I’m wondering what Lien should have done differently.”
He should have continued to slowly drive on a highway, any highway, until a Police cruiser intercepted him. When I first saw the video and I saw him speeding down 179th or whatever I cringed. I knew he would hit a light soon and catch a beatin’.
I would have loved to see him spin that thing around and floor the gas against flow of traffic though.
I still like cheese.
Fcuking comical.
grim says:
October 3, 2013 at 9:24 pm
NY State Senator Adriano Espaillat calling for legislation to limit the number of motorcycle riders that can ride together in a group.
Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz calling for legislation that will fine gas stations for allowing non-street legal vehicles to refuel.
I got an idea for a sequel…. “Hobo With A Range Rover”
Spine Snapper says:
October 3, 2013 at 7:20 pm
So a renegade gang of cycle punks tried to crash the White House gate today?
It’s all Boehner’s fault.
[159] It came in late, but I say, post of the day.
#160 HR
No the Heinlein has to take it
“If I drive an electric car, does that mean I dream about electric sheep?”
#39 Fast Eddie,
Do you get the Teatard Talking points on a daily email?
#14 Joyce
I’m a big proponent of the first amendment. I would say that I am more against burning. I don’t like the Klan burning crosses and people, or those that burn books.
I would ask the question as to why the Klan are going to Gettysburg in the first place. I don’t see them celebrating Lees defeat or Lincolns address?
#65 Moose
I am a proud Prius owner and I bought mine in 2007 based on economic reasons and practical reasons. I was going to be doing a lot of driving (30K per year) and when I ran the numbers the Prius hit the mark. In 2007 Honda’s big push was the Insight. Two seats as you had that big battery in the back and the only car uglier at the time was the Pontiac Aztec. The Low Sulfur regs had just come into effect so every car maker pulled Diesels out of the market. If I could have bought a VW Golf TDI, I would. I tried for a Honda Civic GX, the Natural Gas one (Yes Chi!) but they were like hens teeth in North America. You couldn’t and still cant get them.
The Gen 2 Prius hit a mark in the US. First to the major market with a product that delivered. Over spec’ed and cheap with the Lexus Trim packages wedged in, literally flew of the shelves.
I did 50K in my first 2 years then my mileage dropped.
During Sandy it really came into its own. I loaded it with generators, pumps clothes, supplies and could run trips from NJ to Breezy Point without having to worry about gas lines. In fact I had more gas cans filled in the car than the car would use in a month. At one point I did show up to a Funeral in Queens and filled my friends family cars with gas to allow them to make the trip to the cemetery in Jersey. People her may knock it as a Liberal Limousine (OMG Al Gore owns several), but for me the car stands on its own merits.
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