NJ’s shell game taxes

From the APP:

Prieto: No estate tax deal without gas tax increase

Assembly Speaker Vincent Prieto said he won’t move forward with any plans to eliminate New Jersey’s estate tax without a broader deal to increase the state’s gasoline tax.

Prieto, D-Hudson, stood along with a coalition of left-leaning groups Monday who lambasted plans by Gov. Chris Christie and some in the New Jersey Senate to eliminate the tax on estates worth more than $675,000.

Calling the move “unconscionable” and “another big giveaway for the wealthy,” leaders from the state’s education union and environmental, anti-poverty and other groups said the elimination of the estate tax would blast a $450 million hole in the state’s proposed $33.8 billion budget for next fiscal year. That, they said, would benefit only the wealthy while cutting programs that help the state’s poor and middle class.

“We would not be able to withstand a total repeal,” Prieto said. “It has to be a part of a bigger picture in my mind.”

Also, part of that picture would be a gas tax hike to fund the Transportation Trust Fund, which is projected to run out of money for new projects this summer. Meanwhile, Christie’s administration said last week that the governor is waiting for lawmakers to send him an outline of what that deal might look like.

Prieto’s announcement is a hurdle for a bill making its way through the state Senate that would phase out New Jersey’s estate tax entirely over five years. The state has the lowest thresholds for estate taxes at $675,000.

It also came on the same day state Sen. Jennifer Beck, R-Monmouth, proposed compromise legislation that would increase New Jersey’s estate tax threshold to $2.5 million, the average level for states that tax estates.

Prieto said he could support increasing New Jersey’s estate tax threshold to the federal level of $5.4 million or possibly a phase-out, but only after the state started reaping the benefits from replenishing the transportation fund.

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128 Responses to NJ’s shell game taxes

  1. grim says:

    Take a minute to ponder this quote from Prieto….

    “The state of New Jersey, I’ve said it time and time again, it’s not really a spending problem. It’s a revenue problem.”

    Read it, over and over and over.

  2. 30 year realtor says:

    #13 Yesterday – Comrade, I have always felt that you are an assh0le. That comment proves it without a doubt. Is your dick bigger than everyone else’s combined as well?

  3. D-FENS says:

    Let the TTF go broke. Fcuk him.

    The repubs are no better, proposing a repeal of the estate tax makes them look like the rich country club white guys that the dems say they are. Dumb PR move.

  4. D-FENS says:

    The irony is, that while he complains about the government out of one side of his mouth, he brags about how he makes his living thanks to excessive regulation.

    30 year realtor says:
    April 19, 2016 at 8:22 am
    #13 Yesterday – Comrade, I have always felt that you are an assh0le. That comment proves it without a doubt. Is your dick bigger than everyone else’s combined as well

  5. 30 year realtor says:

    #9 yesterday – used to be zieba, Is he in NJ? Who is the plaintiff? After receiving the deed from the sheriff in NJ a successful bidder must apply for a writ of possession. Takes about 30 days to get the deed and another 30 to 60 days to get the writ. Sheriff serves the writ and sets eviction date. Right now that would be about 6 months out in Bergen County. That brings the eviction time in around 8 to 9 months in Bergen right now.

  6. chi says:

    ……so off the rails that he must have been misquoted…..

    grim says:
    April 19, 2016 at 8:06 am
    Take a minute to ponder this quote from Prieto….

    “The state of New Jersey, I’ve said it time and time again, it’s not really a spending problem. It’s a revenue problem.”

    Read it, over and over and over.

  7. chi says:

    Donald Trump botches 9/11 tribute, thanks heroes of 7-Eleven

  8. Bystander says:

    Chi,

    While not as bad, he also congratualted Ryan and the Jets on their two AFC championships. Guy is losing it.

  9. Grim says:

    7 – what is sad is that I can’t tell if this is a joke or real

  10. joyce says:

    From today’s article:
    “would blast a $450 million hole in the state’s proposed $33.8 billion budget”

    How on earth do we expect them to survive with only 99% of their proposed funds?

  11. nwnj3 says:

    Yep, when this sees the light of day(it will) it’s going to blow the roof off.

    http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/something-else-clinton-is-hiding-is-enough-to-wipe-out-her-campaign/

  12. Fast Eddie says:

    nwnj3,

    It’ll never happen.

  13. D-FENS says:

    11 – Paying politicians for speeches is legalized bribery.

  14. joyce says:

    http://kdvr.com/2016/04/15/centennial-man-billed-11251-to-get-sinus-infection-checked-out/

    CENTENNIAL, Colo. — A Centennial man went to get a sinus infection checked out and ended up with a medical bill of $11,251.

    It sounds like the cost of major surgery.

    “This has got to be wrong, you know, is it a misprint?” Susie Martell said.

    Martell said her son thought he was walking into an urgent care clinic in August to get a diagnosis and some medicine for a sinus infection.

    “The doctor’s office was closed,” she said.

    It turns out her son walked into a standalone emergency room. Many have been popping up across the Denver metro area, and it’s a very costly mix-up.

    Among the charges listed were a $3,222 for a CT scan and a $6,237 facility usage fee. Martell was upset when the family later received the bill, but she soon realized she wasn’t alone.

  15. D-FENS says:

    It’s exactly what the people who elected him expect him to say. He is pandering.

    When the public sector employee unions mobilize their get out the vote campaigns and elect a candidate…Prieto is the result.

    Grim says:
    April 19, 2016 at 8:58 am
    7 – what is sad is that I can’t tell if this is a joke or real

  16. Raymond Reddington formerly Phoenix says: says:

    ……so off the rails that he must have been misquoted…..

    Take a minute to ponder this quote from my wife….

    “The finances of our household, I’ve said it time and time again, it’s not really a spending problem. It’s a revenue problem.”

    1. Grim.

    Take a minute to ponder this quote from Prieto….

    “The state of New Jersey, I’ve said it time and time again, it’s not really a spending problem. It’s a revenue problem.”

    Read it, over and over and over.

  17. D-FENS says:

    A large “not-for-profit” (cough…wheeze ya right) company recently bought the hospital in the town where I live.

    One of the veteran ER doctors was so offended by the changes they made…that he quit, bought a building that was for sale in front of the hospital ER entrance and opened an Urgent Care business.

    He has fair prices…is open all the time and is fast…

    I brought my son there once on Thanksgiving night.

    I hope they guy makes more money there than he ever did working in the hospital ER.

    joyce says:
    April 19, 2016 at 11:07 am
    http://kdvr.com/2016/04/15/centennial-man-billed-11251-to-get-sinus-infection-checked-out/

    CENTENNIAL, Colo. — A Centennial man went to get a sinus infection checked out and ended up with a medical bill of $11,251.

  18. D-FENS says:

    I’m sorry to hear that. Are you as badly in debt as the state of NJ is?

    Raymond Reddington formerly Phoenix says: says:
    April 19, 2016 at 11:13 am
    ……so off the rails that he must have been misquoted…..

    Take a minute to ponder this quote from my wife….

    “The finances of our household, I’ve said it time and time again, it’s not really a spending problem. It’s a revenue problem.”

  19. nwnj3 says:

    #12

    As the election ratchets up, the content of that speech will become more valuable. Someone will leak it for the right price.

  20. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Crazy to see that article on Cankles in IBD!

  21. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Just wow!

    “The state of New Jersey, I’ve said it time and time again, it’s not really a spending problem. It’s a revenue problem. We have to get those revenues. Once you get additional revenues and you have a sustainable growth year after year, then you can look at that (an estate tax cut). That’s why a phase-out would have to be part of that component, but it cannot be a total repeal because we are in such a dire need today.”

  22. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “Someone will leak it for the right price.”

    No one is willing to pay that kind of price for those transcripts, which would probably have to equal multiple years of salaries and bonuses to the leaker as the risk of job loss would be great. Heck…Lloyd could offer to pay the TMZ or whoever pays for it, 100 times what TMZ would pay, and it wouldn’t even cause a small dent in his wealth.

  23. nwnj3 says:

    #22

    Ex-staffer, conference center worker, etc. Someone with a whole lot to gain but little to lose is out there. Keep in mind, there were three “speeches” so the subject matter went before many sets of eyeballs.

    It will be unleashed when the impact is expected to be greatest(i.e. not during the fake primary).

  24. Anon E. Moose says:

    D-FENS [17];

    I hope they guy makes more money there than he ever did working in the hospital ER.

    What kind of racist, homophobic, bigoty McBigot-face are you? That’s anachronistic talk! In Sander’s Amerika people who do things better want a pat on the head and a cookie! [/sarc]

  25. Comrade Nom Deplume, screwing around at work says:

    [2] realtor

    First, the feeling is mutual. I’m okay with that.
    Second, yes.

    [4] d-fens

    Don’t hate the playa, hate the game.

  26. used to be zieba says:

    hey 30! Thanks for fielding the question.

    re: backlogs: Wow. It just never ends. I figured once papers cleared the courts deadbeats get a thirty day notice nailed to their door with a two gauge nail.

    Hudson county, town of Secaucus.
    FIL has ridden the heloc hog into the sunset and my understanding is Deutsche Bank/Central Mortgage will likely be the only bidder who perhaps may not be as motivated to move forward with an eviction as a legitimate outside buyer would.

    In giving thought on how to best dispose of this property I tried to find actionable information on whether deficiency judgements are actually pursued in the state of NJ. I do know that a new judicial process must be started within two months of the sale date and recovery is capped at the difference between balance and market value (ballpark around 150K). That said, I haven’t found a single forum, posting, or thread online describing going through this ordeal, or receiving a 1099-C for that matter. Odd.

    Does this happen to the average blue collar joe, or are they going after the guys with multi’s and 500k+? Wondering if to try and cram him through a HAFA short sale or deed-in-lieu.

  27. Raymond Reddington formerly Phoenix says: says:

    Not at all. I just find ways to keep up with her spending habit..

    18 D-FENS “Are you as badly in debt as the state of NJ is?”

  28. Raymond Reddington formerly Phoenix says: says:

    Agreed…

    D-FENS says:
    April 19, 2016 at 11:05 am

    11 – Paying politicians for speeches is legalized bribery.

  29. Comrade Nom Deplume, screwing around at work says:

    [1] grim,

    I’m behind Prieto 1000%.

    You stand where you sit. And this A-hole benefits from the status quo.

  30. Raymond Reddington formerly Phoenix says: says:

    I have said this time and time again. When you hear the term “phase-out” , it is a problem…

    21 Libturd

    “That’s why a phase-out would have to be part of that component”

  31. Juice Box says:

    re #1 – We all have to pay for his hair dye.

    Prieto is a triple dipper who holds three public jobs and consults on the side and makes well north of 200k from his public jobs and his wife has several public jobs too. He is Hudson County Democratic Organization’s finest product these days.

  32. Raymond Reddington formerly Phoenix says: says:

    Sounds like a comment a drug dealer would make….

    “Don’t hate the playa, hate the game.”

  33. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “Lloyd could offer to pay the TMZ or whoever pays for it, 100 times what TMZ would pay, and it wouldn’t even cause a small dent in his wealth.”

    Actually, I’m sure it wouldn’t come out of his paycheck. It would just be spread among everyone’s.

  34. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    I know Nom…and he’s got game. Unfortunately, the game is Candyland.

  35. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    There’s another quote in here…

    Spending on new roads, bridge and transportation projects would “bring a jolt to the economy,” Prieto said.

    It would bring a jolt to my wallet maybe?

  36. Juice Box says:

    re # 1 – Anyone else find it interesting that a code officials assessment never goes up?

    Looks to me like Prieto did lots of improvements and his assessment hasn’t budged, and the town hasn’t reevaluated either.

    http://tax1.co.monmouth.nj.us/cgi-bin/m4.cgi?district=0909&l02=090900084____00031_________M&hist=1

    https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7894205,-74.06408,3a,60y,302.2h,86.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syC2nfpzOpGsgb0DNtPo2dg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664

  37. joyce says:

    I’m fairly confident D-FENS has grown the loathe the game. And can you blame someone for questioning the sincerity of your comments deriding govt regulations?

    Comrade Nom Deplume, screwing around at work says:
    April 19, 2016 at 11:56 am

    Don’t hate the playa, hate the game.

  38. Raymond Reddington formerly Phoenix says: says:

    A picture to go with the words…

    http://bit.ly/1S8x44N

  39. D-FENS says:

    New Jersey Tries to Make Excuses for Expensive State Highways in Poor Condition

    Taxpayers get traffic congestion, poor pavement conditions, deficient bridges and a big bill for state roads

    David T. Hartgen and Baruch Feigenbaum
    February 23, 2015

    http://reason.org/news/show/new-jersey-excuses-poor-highway-con

    Reason Foundation’s Annual Highway Report, which found New Jersey’s state-controlled highway system ranks 48th out 50 states in cost-effectiveness and performance, has resonated with New Jersey’s taxpayers who have long complained of bumpy pavement and gridlocked roads and highways.

    The Annual Highway Report measures the condition and cost-effectiveness of state-owned roads in numerous categories, including pavement condition on urban and rural Interstates, urban traffic congestion, deficient bridges, unsafe narrow lanes, traffic fatalities, total spending and administrative costs.

    With a proposed increase to the state gas tax putting New Jersey’s roads under new scrutiny, Jamie Fox, commissioner of the New Jersey Department of Transportation, recently commented on the Annual Highway Report. Mr. Fox wrote, “Without the benefit of having the numbers the Reason Foundation used to base its calculations, there is no way to independently review its findings.”

    That’s strange. Our Annual Highway Report is based on data that New Jersey, and other states, provide themselves to the federal government. And we’ve readily shared the report’s data with state transportation departments and members of the media across the country. The full Annual Highway Report is here (.pdf). Many of the tables we used are publicly available on the Federal Highway Administration’s website. Some of the key tables are HM-10 (mileage), SF-3 (Revenues for State-Administered Highways) and SF-4 (Disbursements for State-Administered Highways).

    Mr. Fox also wrote, “NJDOT has jurisdiction over only 6 percent of the entire roadway network in the state.” That’s right, and the Reason Foundation’s Annual Highway Report ranks New Jersey based only on the roads the state actually controls. And that should be even more worrying to New Jersey’s taxpayers: Despite the small size of the state-controlled highway system, New Jersey still has big trouble taking care of it. The state ranks near the bottom in poor pavement condition — 46th in urban Interstate pavement condition, 46th in rural primary road pavement condition — and 36th in deficient bridges.

    New Jersey’s state government controls just over 3,300 miles of highway. Texas and North Carolina, for comparison, each control more than 20 times as much — over 80,000 miles of highway each. Texas ranks 11th in overall highway performance and cost-effectiveness, while North Carolina ranks 20th, and New Jersey ranks 48th.

    Mr. Fox takes issue with how the state’s transportation spending is reported:

    New Jersey gives out nearly $330 million a year in local transportation aid to counties and municipalities. This helps local government take care of local roads without having to raise property taxes. The Reason Foundation counts the spending we give to local government but doesn’t count all the miles of local roads that are repaired or built.

    Like it does for county and municipal aid, the Reason Foundation also counts the investments made to maintain and run New Jersey Transit as part of our highway spending but gives the state no benefit for that spending. New Jersey is the only state that operates a statewide transit system, so including transit expenditures into highway construction costs is both inaccurate and unfair.

    The report’s spending totals are pulled directly from numbers the state of New Jersey provided to the Federal Highway Administration under the category of “Disbursements For State-Administered Highways – 2012.” This federal table, used in our report, shows the breakdown that New Jersey provided for its spending on “capital outlays for roads and bridges; maintenance and highway services; administration research and planning; highway law enforcement and safety; interest; bond retirement; reserves for highway work; and reserves for debt service.”

    None of those categories include “local transportation aid” or “statewide transit system.” If the state is claiming it mistakenly included local aid and mass transit spending in clearly defined state highway categories, New Jersey should correct the data it provided to FHWA.

    Mr. Fox makes another claim:

    The Reason Foundation uses a centerline mile as its denominator. A centerline mile measures the total length of a given road from Point A to Point B, but it doesn’t measure how many actual lanes of highway are going from Point A to Point B.

    When was the last time you were on a single-lane highway in New Jersey? There are some, but not many. When we spend money to maintain or build a multiple lane highway, the Reason Foundation acts as if all that spending is to construct a single lane of highway, not the multiple lanes that are actually built.

    Lane-miles are part of the report’s calculations. In fact, lane miles are inherent in calculating many of the report’s rankings, including traffic congestion and pavement condition. The Annual Highway Report clearly states: “The average number of lanes per mile is 2.40 lanes, but a few states (New Jersey, Florida, California and Massachusetts) manage significantly wider roads, averaging more than 3.0 lanes per mile.” The report goes on to detail the miles, lane miles and the average number of lanes for all 50 states. These factors are then used to adjust our figures to account for wider roads in some states, like New Jersey. So if New Jersey’s big spending were resulting in smoother pavement and less traffic congestion across many lanes, the state’s overall ranking and its rankings in those individual categories would be better. Instead, New Jersey ranks 31st or worse in nine of the 11 categories, and 41st or worse in seven of 11 categories.

    It is incorrect, but let’s test the claim anyway — if the spending per mile metric is punishing New Jersey for having highways that are six or eight lanes wide, as Mr. Fox alleges, then it would make sense that other states with wide highways would suffer too. But that is not the case. California, home to many of the busiest and widest highways in the country, spends $500,000 per mile. New Jersey spends four times that — $2 million per mile. New Jersey spends three times as much as Massachusetts ($675,000 per mile), three-and-a-half times more than Florida ($572,000 per mile), four times as much as New York ($462,000 per mile), and 12 times more than Texas ($157,000 per mile), which is home to six of the 20 most populous cities in America.

    Mr. Fox apparently agrees with us regarding the relatively poor condition of the state’s roads, since he makes no comments regarding our data on road conditions like pavement condition and congestion. He does mention other possible causes of the state’s poor road conditions, including age, truck traffic and harsh winters. But somehow, other states with heavy traffic, harsh winters and old systems manage to beat New Jersey.

    The Annual Highway Report has been published for over 20 years. It gives taxpayers an idea of how much bang they are getting for their transportation bucks. Over those two decades we’ve seen the states that rank highest tend to produce good road conditions at relatively low costs. States ranked in the middle of the pack can be average across all categories, or, they overcome spending more than the national average by producing good road conditions with that spending. Wisconsin and Oklahoma, for example, both increased their spending and rocketed up 16 spots in the report’s overall rankings by using that spending to better their pavement conditions.

    Meanwhile, there’s no escaping the conclusion that New Jersey spends a lot of money on its state-administered highways and delivers poor performance in return. The key question now is what will New Jersey do about it?

  40. D-FENS says:

    It’s not a spending problem…it’s a sh1thead politician problem.

  41. D-FENS says:

    You see…you guys are just too dumb to understand…it’s expensive for reasons Speaker Prieto just can’t explain…you just don’t get it.

  42. D-FENS says:

    Let the TTF go bankrupt…and find the money by disbanding 90% of these commissions.

    By my count…there are over 500 of them.

    http://nj.gov/governor/admin/search.html

  43. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Last night, I was driving home from Philly on the GSP. It was about 8pm. About three miles before the Union tolls, the left lane was just mysteriously closed. No signs or warnings (even though every goddamn mile or so, there is a million dollar LED scoreboard reminding me to buckle my seatbelts or put my phone down). All of a sudden, cones appeared and forced you into the next inner lane. Of course, the road was pretty busy and there was literally no space for me to merge in. So after nearly driving over the line of cones, I was able to slow down enough to get over a lane.

    Last week, they closed the left two lanes starting exactly at the Union tolls. So they closed the left 8 or so toll lanes (of which the first three are EZ pass only). Once again, no warning. So 2/3rds of the cars on the road are swerving all the way over from the left lane into the 2 open EZ pass lanes in between all of the exact change and non-exact lanes. What a giant cluster fkuc. Worst of all, every single lane is equipped with the ability to take EZ pass, but that would require someone to have to hit a button to flip the sign above the toll. Better to make everyone risk their lives playing Frogger on the GSP. Pensions for all.

    I hate this state.

  44. Anon E. Moose says:

    D-Fens [42];

    Of those, I count 82 as “advisory”. Advice don’t come cheap! :-D

    Lib [43];

    I can’t stand that plaza. I have to hug the right side because I get on 78 West there. Big cluster with the leading plaza, then the EZpass in the corner with cash and exact change (why do they even still have those? Oh yeah, someone’s brother-in-law got a no-bid 20 year contract to maintain them) blocking it.

  45. D-FENS says:

    Lib, on top of your efficient NJ driving experience: none of the TTF money goes to that road.

    ANALYSIS: MERGER OF CASH-STARVED NJDOT WITH TURNPIKE AUTHORITY ‘CASH COW’ EYED
    MARK J. MAGYAR | SEPTEMBER 29, 2014
    Turnpike, Parkway generate $400 million a year in excess toll revenues — and most of it already goes into state budget

    http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/14/09/29/analysis-merger-of-cash-starved-njdot-with-turnpike-authority-cash-cow-eyed/

  46. [2] Wow. I remember the old days when we could depend on 30 year for factual reports from the field; he had the credibility of the Associated Press. Now that I’ve been branded a rac1st and Nom is a vile 1 per-center, I’m thinking maybe his life has had some financial/personal/health reversals which is now detracting from his objectivity?

    Hope you do well, 30 year, your astute observations on the NJ RE market were always appreciated by me.

    #13 Yesterday – Comrade, I have always felt that you are an assh0le. That comment proves it without a doubt. Is your dick bigger than everyone else’s combined as well?

  47. [7] Hillary says that unborn persons have no constitutional rights, but that gets no airplay. BTW, I wouldn’t be surprised if the rescue workers at ground zero were given free Slurpees, Big Gulps, and chili dogs, so there are probably some 7-Eleven heroes too;-)

    Donald Trump botches 9/11 tribute, thanks heroes of 7-Eleven

  48. Comrade Nom Deplume, Right Wing Extremist (per anon) says:

    [34] Lib

    LMAO!!! Will have to play with D when you guys come to the house.

    [37] Joyce

    Nope!

  49. Comrade Nom Deplume, Right Wing Extremist (per anon) says:

    On this day in history, a little Longfellow (guaranteed to twist Fabius’ knickers):

    ” . . . .You know the rest. In the books you have read,
    How the British Regulars fired and fled,–
    How the farmers gave them ball for ball,
    From behind each fence and farmyard-wall,
    Chasing the red-coats down the lane,
    Then crossing the fields to emerge again
    Under the trees at the turn of the road,
    And only pausing to fire and load. . . .”

  50. Comrade Nom Deplume, Right Wing Extremist (per anon) says:

    [47] expat,

    he could be talking about Big Gulps, or he could be talking about losers at his craps tables.

  51. Comrade Nom Deplume, Right Wing Extremist (per anon) says:

    [46] expat,

    You are nicer than me. I’ll toss 30 in with fabian/anon/yome and show them the NJ State Bird (and I don’t mean the Eastern Goldfinch).

  52. joyce says:

    So do you still think your income goes up if the govt backs off?

    Comrade Nom Deplume, Right Wing Extremist (per anon) says:
    April 19, 2016 at 1:49 pm

    [37] Joyce

    Nope!

  53. Comrade Nom Deplume, screwing around at work says:

    [52] joyce

    My take home goes up. Gross doesn’t matter, net does. And if the gov takes less, I keep more.

  54. joyce says:

    The implication in my question is that, if the tax code was simpler and industries less regulated, your current workload would decrease.

  55. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Japanese families seem to have a sudden affinity for home safes. According to the Tokyo-based manufacturer Eiko, shipments have doubled since last fall. And in Germany, insurer Munich Re has stashed some 10 million euros ($11.4 million) worth of its own cash into vaults.

    Why the squirreling? One possible reason is the creeping imposition of negative interest rates across the world, which could make it more rewarding to bypass banks—and a safe or vault is, well, more secure than a mattress.

    Welcome to the upside-down world of modern monetary policy. In this new reality, borrowers get paid and savers penalized. Almost 500 million people in a quarter of the global economy now live in countries where interest rates measure less than zero. That would’ve been an almost unthinkable phenomenon before the 2008 financial crisis, and one major economies didn’t seriously consider until two years ago, when the European Central Bank first partook in the experiment. Now the ECB and the Bank of Japan are diving deeper into the sub-zero world as they seek more ways to spark inflation.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-19/the-sub-zero-club-getting-used-to-the-upside-down-world-economy

  56. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Lawyers are the biggest govt tit suckers there are….right up there with the military and healthcare industry.

    Comrade Nom Deplume, screwing around at work says:
    April 19, 2016 at 2:10 pm
    [52] joyce

    My take home goes up. Gross doesn’t matter, net does. And if the gov takes less, I keep more.

  57. joyce says:

    No… SENIOR financial analysts

  58. D-FENS says:

    I would like to just take this moment to thank the heroes of Circle-K, Quick Chek, and Wawa.

  59. Comrade Nom Deplume, screwing around at work says:

    [54] joyce,

    Yes, I see. Agreed. I never said I was talking my book.

    [56] pumps

    Not really. I liken us to vultures, living off the carrion of a society that kills its own.

  60. D-FENS says:

    There are some civil rights lawyers that I like.

  61. D-FENS says:

    Meanwhile…the big story on the interwebs today is that Donald Trump’s registration is expired.

    http://time.com/4299416/donald-trump-jet-faa/

    Happens to everybody I guess.

  62. Juice Box says:

    re: # 60- My co-workers kid is currently is a public defender down in the deep south. Salary is like $50k and as a bonus they call him yankee, he is a real life My Cousin Vinny from NJ. He has no plans to leave that job either.

  63. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Here’s a fun situation. I was driving out of a Dunkin’ a few weeks ago about to make the long ride back to Philly and a dude backs into my bumper (totally his fault). There’s really no visible damage to the bumper besides a scuff mark and even this is barely noticeable. I decide that it there’s nothing to start an insurance claim on. About a week later, on another ride down to Philly, I stop to get gas and my blind spot monitoring system light turns on. I read all of the Mazda forums for fixes and there is definitely something broken. So this morning, I finally get the time to bring it in to Mazda and that bumper bump caused a $1200 BSM repair. I get an estimate at a friendlier collision place (much cheaper usually) and it’s the same price. $700 is the cost of the part from Mazda and the rest is the labor involved (although I don’t know how it can take 10 hours to do no matter what they are doing).

    This is where it gets interesting. Every morning that same dude takes his kid (maybe a 5-year-old) for a coffee at that Dunkin. I see him and his kid every time I go. I also know his license plate number. I plan to present him with the bill next week. If he balks, I’ll make some kind of comment about how much of a pr1ck he is to his kid and then wish the same cancer my toddler has on his. It won’t be pretty. Or perhaps he’ll be a gentleman and do the right thing?

    So what do you guys think he’ll do?

  64. Alex says:

    63-

    Lib, regarding the bumper incident, how are you going to prove to the other driver that he caused the BSM to break? Couldn’t he just say it was merely a coincidence?

  65. D-FENS says:

    Just look out of your car window. It’s cheaper and it’s worked fine for nearly 100 years.

  66. Essex says:

    look at you turning on each other…

  67. Libturd at home for one more night before CHOP says:

    Alex…you have a point, but it is the case. The dealer said it was located directly behind where the hit took place and also said this is very common. If he ops out of paying it, I will threaten to charge him with hit and run.

  68. Libturd at home for one more night before CHOP says:

    I’ll let you all know how it goes. Still…$1200? My next car is going to be a tank.

  69. D-FENS says:

    Lib, whenever you have a problem in life, just ask yourself what would JJ do?

    Would he fix the car?

    You better get more than $1200 out of that punk who hit your car and immediately invest it in junk bonds.

  70. Essex says:

    jj would take the cash and spend it on a hooker.

  71. Alex says:

    Lib, if the system is so fragile that a slight tap on the bumper breaks it, I would take it up with the manufacturer.

  72. Grim says:

    Looks like a shit ton of problems with Mazda BSM.

    You aren’t still under warranty? Play dumb. What bump?

  73. Lib – I don’t think you will do any of those things. You’re too good of a guy.

    I plan to present him with the bill next week. If he balks, I’ll make some kind of comment about how much of a pr1ck he is to his kid and then wish the same cancer my toddler has on his. It won’t be pretty. Or perhaps he’ll be a gentleman and do the right thing?

  74. BTW, does Hillary look like she’s wearing a “house coat”, like my grandmother did?

  75. Grim says:

    If you could pull off a house coat, you would too.

  76. Grim – My wife and I had a HUGE fight tonight on what a housecoat is. Like you, being of Polish descent, my recollection is it is something your grandmother has many of, divided into many qualities, as in your “regular” housecoat, your “the cable guy is coming over” little better quality housecoat, and your “very fine, I may have people I care about coming over” house coat. My wife, OTOH, maintains that a housecoat is something sleeveless that working women at Haband (where she worked one Summer) wore to protect their work clothes. That sounds a lot like a smock to me.

  77. joyce says:

    New housing boss makes $167K on top of $163K pension … in same city
    http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2016/04/retired_schools_chief_hired_to_head_housing_author.html

    [some great quotes from the article]
    Mayor Brian Stack, who appoints six of the seven seats on the board with the consent of the city’s governing body, is a strong supporter of Sanger, and defended his qualifications to lead the housing agency after a career in education.

    “I don’t think it should depend on who’s got a public pension,” said Stack. “I think (the executive director’s job) should go to the best qualified person. I understand public perception, but I also understand there’s a cost savings.”

    By that, Sack was referring to Sanger’s decision not to accept health insurance, a car, a phone and other benefits from the housing authority, which the mayor valued at $25,000 or so.

    The housing authority’s legal counsel, Krystle Nova of the firm Scarinci Hollenbeck, said Sanger had the lowest salary demand of the four finalists for the position chosen following “a national and global” search.

    He was among the state’s highest-paid public officials, with a salary of $255,000 in his last year as superintendent, and attracted some attention upon his retirement when he received a lump sum payment of $188,000 for unclaimed sick days.

  78. Anon E. Moose says:

    Gourd-o [55];

    Safes — I recently watched a YouTube video of a locksmith opening a garden variety Home Depot/Costco home safe in seconds with a cobalt magnet.

    [56]; Lawyers — My occupation is named in the US Constitution, how about yours? Imagine for a moment the framers gave a flying $h!t about the ticks that are financial middle management, or might have considered them a building block of a nation. When you stop laughing like I have, you can go back to work.

  79. Comrade Nom Deplume, One Percenter for another year says:

    [78] moose

    The trick with ticks is to not let them get under your skin.

  80. joyce says:

    Are you counsel for defendants? or maybe an Ambassador?

  81. Comrade Nom Deplume, One Percenter for another year says:

    Saw a picture of Stephen Hawking with a NE Patriots hat and shirt. That’s gonna twist Rory’s knickers.

    And it occurs to me that this new handle will twist realtor’s knickers. Wasn’t by design but I’ll take it.

  82. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Save me the bs. Most lawyers are nothing more than legal crooks who lobbied their occupation into existence. Lawyers have fuc!ed this country up with their sue happy marketing agenda. Gave so much power to the insurance industry because of these countless bs lawsuits. Ruined families financially that were going through a bitter divorce. Your industry is full of scum bags. There are some good ones, but the majority are scam artists.

    Don’t worry, lawyers will be gone with the wind soon. Bots will be taking over that job very shortly.

    [56]; Lawyers — My occupation is named in the US Constitution, how about yours? Imagine for a moment the framers gave a flying $h!t about the ticks that are financial middle management, or might have considered them a building block of a nation. When you stop laughing like I have, you can go back to work.

  83. homeboken says:

    Lib – You got into that accident a few weeks ago and you think you will get the guy to pay for damage now? If I were him, I’d say “How do I know that you haven’t gotten into another accident in the last few weeks?. Stop trying to scam me” I would then, very politely tell you that you can try to sue me if you like.

    My guess is that given all that you have on your plate now, it really is not worth it. The ship to get him on the hook for payment has sailed. There are truly hundreds of more important things going on in your life right now. Go the route Grim recommended, head to the dealer and play dumb, if you are still under warranty that is.

  84. 30 year realtor says:

    #25 – Comrade, you spew like the pumpkin and give me much to base my judgement of you upon. Other than occasionally calling you out for being in love with yourself what do you base your dislike for me on? Is it my opinions about real estate you don’t care for?

    Do me a favor. Please don’t threaten to shoot me if I plan on attending a NJRER get together.

  85. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Nom, your profession’s entire existence is based on a govt. Funny, you continually complain about high taxes when your profession is the reason for high taxes. You complain about regulations when your profession is the one responsible for so many regulations. Who created the legions of laws in the name of regulation? Who created the 70,000 pages of tax law?

    Lawyers are like parasites, they don’t create anything, but get paid by creating and defending laws that are used to suck their clients dry. One of the biggest forms of redistribution is hiring a lawyer. Let’s complicate the court process so much so, that the avg person needs to hire a lawyer to defend themselves. Such bs.

    Comrade Nom Deplume, One Percenter for another year says:
    April 20, 2016 at 9:50 am
    Saw a picture of Stephen Hawking with a NE Patriots hat and shirt. That’s gonna twist Rory’s knickers.

    And it occurs to me that this new handle will twist realtor’s knickers. Wasn’t by design but I’ll take it.

  86. nwnj3 says:

    Lawyers and bankers are leaches who suck the blood of the creative.

  87. 30 year realtor says:

    Comrade and Ex Pat, please understand it is not a financial reversal that makes me call you out. It has nothing to do with being a part of the one percent, if you really are. Racism is offensive! Behaving as though you are superior to others is offensive. Maybe I am missing something and fail to see what you would classify as an attempt at humor? Maybe you guys just are not funny?

    Business is great! Happy to answer any real estate question I have something useful to say about.

  88. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Appreciate all of the advice on the BSM. I tried playing dumb with the dealer already and as usual, no dice. I will call Mazda corporate next. Dealers never fix things for free, until a recall. I learned this with my AC on the old Civic. Of course it was recalled three years later and I got my money back. The bumper shows the slightest scuff but no sign of any real damage. The hit was truly at under 3mph.

  89. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    And law should be socialized. Especially after Nom ate my Revolution Tacos.

  90. Juice Box says:

    God damm online TOS. Now my bank is spamming me with car ads for Jaguar. WTF.

  91. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Mazda Corporate was no help whatsoever as expected. Let’s see what kind of morals this guy has. I should bump into him (never mind the pun), next Wednesday morning when I next get to work. Will be at home for the weekend, but Gator gets to be home Monday and Tuesday (for work). I had a chance to do it this morning on my way to work, but a got stopped by a cop for rolling through a stop sign virtually in front of my house. No ticket fortunately, but there was a 5-minute delay. I saw the dude and his kid pulling out of the parking lot as I was pulling in. I have a feeling he will pay. Any guy who takes his 5-year old kid to Dunkin every morning for a chocolate milk and munchkin is probably a saint. Or unemployed. We’ll see. Doesn’t hurt to try.

  92. D-FENS says:

    Ugh please. As offensive as they were, these guys have been pussycats the past few days. I’ve had people wish me bankrupt and had them say disparaging things about my wife here. Albeit, they used a handle not seen around here in a long time…so I don’t really know who did the posting.

  93. D-FENS says:

    Ugh please. As offensive as they were, these guys have been pu$$ycats the past few days. I’ve had people wish me bankrupt and had them say disparaging things about my wife here. Albeit, they used a handle not seen around here in a long time…so I don’t really know who did the posting.

  94. D-FENS says:

    Lib, don’t call Mazda corporate…they have no motivation to pay for your repairs.

    Bring it right to the dealer if it is under warranty, and tell them you have no idea wtf happened.

    Dealers love warranty work. Corporate always pays the bill.

  95. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “Bring it right to the dealer if it is under warranty, and tell them you have no idea wtf happened.”

    I already did. They saw the scuff and determined it took a hit for me.

  96. Juice Box says:

    re # 94 – Trade it in.

  97. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Ha…I financed it at 0% interest. I still owe $22K on it.

  98. Alex says:

    91-

    Lib, if you tapped someone’s bumper and three weeks later they present you with a $1200 bill demanding payment, what would you do?

  99. 1987 Condo says:

    Going outside insurance is always risky, after cash is exchanged what stops a further claim. I’d expect to settle immediately for cash (following few days) afterwards I’d have to say to run it through insurance?

  100. D-FENS says:

    I vote for leaving it broken, and looking out the window from now on instead.

  101. GOP's broken (the good one) says:

    hope he gives you a good beating for making shiit up

    Libturd at home for one more night before CHOP says:
    April 19, 2016 at 6:32 pm
    I will threaten to charge him with hit and run.

  102. GOP's broken (the good one) says:

    not a good day for Racists

    @CommerceGov

    Some #WednesdayWisdom for entrepreneurs and innovators from
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  103. Juice Box says:

    re # 96 – Sometimes the only solution is gasoline and a match.

  104. Anon E. Moose says:

    Tool [101];

    Even worse day for gun grabbers: I vote for this portrait

    http://www.amazon.com/Harriet-Tubman-Conductor-Underground-Railroad/dp/0064461815

  105. Juice Box says:

    Trump would turn the place around.

    Saudi. King snubs Obama on Riyadh arrival.

  106. Juice Box says:

    Plane around, turn the plane around.

  107. grim says:

    Heidi Cruz in Wayne and nobody invited me?

  108. Bystander says:

    Lib,

    Was about to consider CX9 but that is crazy sh$t. Any company that disavows for a bump that breaks a critical $1200 component is a piece of crap. I agree with others, don’t confront guy. It sounded innocent. Who has not bumped a car before? Mazda sounds like the problem. I would cause a stink to high heaven with them and dealer.

  109. Bystander says:

    Tell Mazda that you are a very important auto blogger and your negative post about Mazdas, read by thousands, will cost more business than the measley part. It is kind of true..you posted about Civic all the time.

  110. walking bye says:

    Bystander, having owned a Mercedes that price is nothin. I recently called and was quoted by prestige $600 to lube the panoramic sunroof. Happy ending not included.

  111. chi says:

    potato chips + monkey bars = broken arm for my little girl : (

  112. Anon E. Moose says:

    Con’t [109];

    As I scan down the list, I see that the headline was just local news clickbait. A $70k median makes Morris county schools look like pikers. A $70k median barely puts them in the top quintile. Edison, E. Rutherford, Northern Valley (Bergen) and AC (!) all above $90k median.

    That’s just teachers. I wonder how many administrators crack $200k.

  113. Comrade Nom Deplume, One Percenter for another year says:

    [89] lib

    “law should be socialized. Especially after Nom ate my Revolution Tacos.”

    LOL! Yes, I redistributed your lunch in order to maximize its utility.

    I joked to gator that “I can now say I ate Stu’s lunch”

  114. Comrade Nom Deplume, One Percenter for another year says:

    [85] Pumpy

    Absolutely correct on all of it.

    That plus $4 will get you a venti latte.

  115. Libturd at home for one more night before CHOP says:

    Love all the advice. Let’s see what happens. The concept of fighting with a dealership like Maxon is tantamount to trying to drink a Wendy’s Frosty with a straw from my kids juice box.

  116. Comrade Nom Deplume, One Percenter for another year says:

    [84] realtor

    I just don’t like you. My reasons (not that I need reasons) are my own. And I wouldn’t expect you to agree with them.

    And not to worry; I’m not stupid enough to make an actionable threat; I don’t carry guns in NJ and rarely here; and I don’t need them to settle disputes unless you have one too.

  117. newbie says:

    WNYC’s latest investigation of contamination in NJ. Twitter is on fire on this topic.

    http://www.wnyc.org/story/nj-contaminated-sites/

    It is little scary that everybody in NJ is within 1 mile of some kind of contamination.

  118. Juice Box says:

    sigh – what is this the real house wives of njrereport? It’s nice and sunny out now, winter is over folks, shake off those blues already.

  119. 1987 Condo says:

    #117..I plugged in my address, the places by me are my friends oil tank that had a minor leak but the DEP had to get called in and an old gas station that closed in the 90’s and now has a bank on it.

  120. The Great Pumpkin says:

    117- Why do they have to turn it into some race issue/conspiracy?

    It all comes down to money. Everything else is just noise.

  121. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This is what happens when people get bored beating up on the pumpkin. Lol

    Juice Box says:
    April 20, 2016 at 9:50 pm
    sigh – what is this the real house wives of njrereport? It’s nice and sunny out now, winter is over folks, shake off those blues already.

  122. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yup, pumpkin has been beating this drum for a while.

    “History shows us that tax evasion can have terrible effects, from economic inequality to societal collapse.”

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/panama-papers-tax-evasion-history-213832

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