Home prices rise, less then expected, gains moderate

From HousingWire:

S&P/Case-Shiller: Home prices finally start to stabilize

The National Home Price Index, covering all nine U.S. census divisions, increased 5.3% annually in February, unchanged from the previous month, breaking a 10-month streak where the year-over-year figure increased over the previous month, the latest S&P/Case-Shiller report found.

“While one month does not make a trend, this is a sign that the US housing market may be stabilizing in the wake of strong price appreciation between 2012 and 2014,” said Ralph McLaughlin, chief economist for Trulia.

McLaughlin cautioned that although the S&P/Case-Shiller National Home Price Index is an important metric to watch, it’s worth noting that the measure is more reflective of price movements in premium homes rather than middle or lower tier homes.

According to the new report, the 10-City Composite increased 4.6% in the year to February, compared to 5.0% previously, as the 20-City Composite’s year-over-year gain was 5.4%, down from 5.7% the prior month.

On a monthly basis, after seasonal adjustment, the National Index recorded a 0.4% increase. The 10-City Composite posted a 0.6% increase and the 20-City Composite reported a 0.7% month-over-month increase after seasonal adjustment.

Only 10 cities increased for the month after seasonal adjustment.

“Home prices continue to rise, although more slowly, at a largely sustainable clip. But a deeper look at recent housing trends reveals a few troubling issues set to impact first-time and move-up buyers in the critical months ahead,” said Zillow Chief Economist Svenja Gudell.

“Inventory of entry-level and middle-tier homes is down sharply, and home prices in those segments are rising more quickly as demand stays strong and the economy keeps chugging along. At the same time, inventory at the top of the market is more available, and prices are growing far more slowly,” Gudell said.

“Heading into spring, buyers looking for the most expensive homes will find somewhat softening prices, a larger selection of homes to choose from and more limited competition. Entry-level and mid-market buyers – typically the housing market’s bread and butter – are likely to face stiff competition, rapidly rising prices and very limited inventory. The patience of many buyers will be tested in coming months,” Gudell added.

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109 Responses to Home prices rise, less then expected, gains moderate

  1. grim says:

    NY Commuter

    (Under $278657)
    YOY – 1.84%
    2YOY – 6.45%
    3YOY – 12.67%
    4YOY – 12.73%

    ($278657 – $444182)
    YOY – 3.80%
    2YOY – 5.83%
    3YOY – 12.26%
    4YOY – 14.77%

    (Over $444182)
    YOY – 1.43%
    2YOY – 3.36%
    3YOY – 9.53%
    4YOY – 11.64%

    (Overall Market)
    YOY – 2.10%
    2YOY – 4.23%
    3YOY – 10.57%
    4YOY – 12.37%

  2. Ted Cruz may be part reptile. Explains a lot.

  3. grim says:

    Yup we are in a recession.
    “Apple is expected to report iPhone unit sales of 50 million, vs. 61 million last year”

    You don’t think the end of subsidized phones has something to do with this? No free phone every two years with your high priced Verizon or AT&T contract?

    The used iPhone market has exploded since AT&T moved away earlier this year. Just look at Craigslist, etc. The words “unlocked phone” are almost universally known now.

    It’s also why I think Apple released the odd-ball “SE” – you can have a pretty apple phone at half the price. If you are paying out of pocket – it looks awfully compelling.

    I think the big carriers are going to take the hit. I pay more for my AT&T now contract than I did 3 years ago, and I get no free iPhone? Sorry, but I’ll cut my bill in half just by going to T-Mobile.

    So, as iPhone sales drop, I would expect the big carriers to lose subscribers to the low-cost carriers.

    I think Verizon is going to be killed, because they are the least cross-compatible from an unlocked phone perspective. If you move to a market of unbundled phones – phone compatibility becomes a massive issue. They are completely incompatible with everyone else. Verizon’s focus on CMDA over GSM – like the rest of the world – is their downfall, especially now with BYOD.

  4. Juice Box says:

    Apple sales were soft in all categories.

    ANECDOTAL – my son tossed my iPad 2 air and cracked the screen, MOFOS at want $300 to fix. Apple wants $300 to swap. They can go F themselves other than facetime I don’t need an apple product especially for music.

  5. leftwing says:

    Re: Apple especially the music

    Two boys, one a HS Junior, one an incoming freshman. Could not breathe without the latest Apple phone historically – social outcast, sky is falling, etc, etc.

    Two years ago on contract renewal they wouldn’t touch Apple. Went to Samsung/Android. Main drivers were the music (apparently impossible to manage music other than through/with Apple) and it simply wasn’t the status symbol it used to be relative to other phones.

    I think it gets worse for Apple before it gets better.

  6. Comrade Nom Deplume. Citizen, 2nd Class. says:

    Another factor discussed on Bloomberg yesterday is the replacement cycle has extended because people aren’t running into the tech hurdles that forced upgrades, such as memory, processor speed, etc. Now battery life will be a more significant driver.

    As for me, I am also second guessing our family’s move into the Applesphere. I’m thinking of going back to Android as it may not be as important for me to be in that circle of cross-connectivity. In fact, it has become a problem in unexpected ways.

  7. leftwing says:

    Some areas seem pretty well through peak 2006 pricing.

    Can’t link it, but check out 910 Hudson St, Hoboken on Zillow.

    Jan 2006, $1.1m, now $1.9m……….

    My old apartment from 1994-1996 was recently listed. 10th and Washington. Brought back some memories.

  8. D-FENS says:

    Apple has become their own worst enemy. Flooding the market with product.

    Their phones are so reliable…I still see people walking around with their 4 and 4s phones.

    Most of the upgrades we do at work now are because people dropped their phones in water or cracked their screen.

  9. GOP's broken (the good one) says:

    @BillMaher

    Trump’s 5 landslides: I’m from NJ – that’s my backyard.

    I thought we were more sophisticated.

    Not Repubs: clueless from sea to shining sea.

  10. GOP's broken (the good one) says:

    @NateSilver538

    BTW, if you’re on the fence about whether tonight was good or *great* for Trump,
    lean toward great because of the PA uncommitted delegates.

  11. grim says:

    So much for feelin’ the bern.

  12. D-FENS says:

    What a bunch of chockers.

  13. GOP's broken (the good one) says:

    @BenjySarlin

    Going to be hard for Democrats to fire up base against a Republican w/ history of misogyny saying Clinton is only “the woman’s card”

  14. grim says:

    Yeah, because her last name has nothing to do with it…

  15. grim says:

    I’m just really upset by the lazy worthless millennials who seem to worship Sanders on Facebook – but can’t seem to muster any real-world support to get the guy even remotely elected.

    Clinton – the penis one – did a phenomenal job in this respect.

  16. grim says:

    I really think Hillary can organize the party simply by saying not only did she inhale, but that she smoked PHAT BLUNTS. It worked for Bill and Barack.

  17. nwnj3 says:

    Of course Hillary will play that card, though I’m not sure how it will run. She can only wring so much out of that considering her and Bill’s history of denying his philandering(calling his accusers nuts, etc.).

  18. Can you imagine if Trump had White Water, Vince Foster death, Fraudulent Futures Trading Account as bribe vehicle, Private email server with deleted emails, Lying about helicopter under fire, Dead Ambassador and staff, Spouse’s jizz in the freezer on someone’s blue dress, gay affairs, undisclosed stroke, and corrupt foundation that funnels skeletons in his closet?

  19. ^^^ forgot out of wedlock daughter. I guess that’s a plus with the sistas.

  20. leftwing says:

    19.

    It’s worse than that. The ‘philandering’ is a personal matter, whatever works (or doesn’t) in your marriage is up to you.

    The Lewinsky episode is the killer. A senior executive (forget THE senior executive) in any organization that had a young female intern on her knees in the back room attached to his office would have been fired immediately. Not just now, but then as well. We are not talking about changing social mores and new awareness, it was just as bad then.

    As he did this, and as his lied about not doing it, the silence from Hillary was deafening.

    That is her issue now as it relates to women – No matter how hard she tries to champion women everyone knows that when the rubber met the road she threw an abused young woman under the bus rather than risk upsetting her personal gravy train. No morals, no values, straight out Cluster B.

    Lewinsky, the person, the woman, meant absolutely nothing to Hillary when measured against what any minimal action could have potentially cost her.

    Chappaquidick Light. And it will come back to bite her in the behind especially against Trump who has absolutely no boundaries.

  21. chi says:

    fried chicken (clot Edition):

    LEBANON, Conn. — Thousands of chickens have died in a fire at a coop in Connecticut that belongs to a major egg producer.

    The Hartford Courant reports at least 80,000 chickens were killed in the blaze Tuesday at Kofkoff Egg Farms in Lebanon.

    No farm workers or firefighters were hurt.

    The company has operations in Bozrah, Colchester, Franklin and Lebanon, and is the largest egg producer in New England.

    More than 100 firefighters from towns in the eastern part of the state responded. Water tank crews shuttled water to help put out the flames.

    The Courant reports the farm has millions of birds producing eggs, and a fire there in 1989 killed 216,000 chickens.

  22. Alex says:

    17-Speaking of those precious Snowflakes

    WSJ reports today that “Just 37% of US High School Seniors Prepared for College Math and Reading, Test Shows.”

    This represents a slight drop from two years ago.

  23. Captain Nom Deplume, Besotted Rummy says:

    Personally, I’m looking forward to the political violence. Pull up an Adirondack chair and a bowl of popcorn and enjoy the show.

    And if anon will grace us with his political travel schedule, I might be convinced to come off the bench. . . .

  24. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Grim…it’s hard (if not impossible) to beat the machine. The list of dirty (but legal) tactics employed by the DEM machine to make absolutely sure Bernie wouldn’t gain traction was simply astounding. To some extent, this can hopefully taken as a clue to how SHE will perform in the white house at least related to getting what she wants. Hopefully, at least a little of what she wants will represent what’s good for the country and not just for what is good for the Clinton Foundation. One example of the machine at work… in Nevada, for the first time ever, they made it extremely easy for casino workers to register and attend a caucus. They actually had their own pull-down on the online application. The largest casino operator in Las Vegas was CET. This year, they actually allowed casino workers, who were on the clock, to caucus. And guess who showed up in the CET employee meeting room the morning of the caucus? Hillary Clinton. Guess what was the only county in all of Nevada to support Hillary? Clark County. This was a shrewd, calculated move on her part. I expect massively bankrupt CET to get a bailout shortly after her coronation. Examples like this could be found in nearly every state where Bernie had a chance to win.

    Bernie is definitely the Facebook champion of this election, but it pains me to see what sore and shallow losers much of his fanbase has become. So many of their claims are lame. There are a few legitimate ones that I’ve read, but for the most part, it’s typical machine jury rigging. Whoever had those connections would have pulled that kind of garbage.

    So once again, I’m left voting for none-of-the-above. Trump is a an unsubstantive closet liberal egoist buffoon who made his money taking advantage of lax US bankruptcy law. He is a master of propoganda and truly the hero of the stupid. Hillary is a shyster. She’s been repeatedly cheated-on, changes her mind like the weather and is no more than a well-connected puppet of the rich who is willing to do whatever they pay her to do.

    I know we say nearly every election is a choice between the lesser of two evils, but this is truly a cluster-fcuk of immense proportions.

  25. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Grim (26…in mod)

  26. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Based on what? I call bs on this stat. It’s fear mongering at its best. But then again, only 30% of the population holds a 4 year degree or higher, so maybe it is justified. So if the stats are justified, what percentage is considered the “A” grade? No way in hell you have 70% (or higher) of the population able to have the capability to do college level math or reading. So this 37% stat looks scary if you are thinking 99% of the population should be college ready, but not so much so if you have a realistic view of the population.

    Alex says:
    April 27, 2016 at 9:28 am
    17-Speaking of those precious Snowflakes

    WSJ reports today that “Just 37% of US High School Seniors Prepared for College Math and Reading, Test Shows.”

    This represents a slight drop from two years ago.

  27. Alex says:

    28-

    Pumps, google the headline, and read the article.

  28. nwnj3 says:

    I don’t trust him but I’m not sure I would be so dismissive of Trump’s platform. Quite a bit of substance is developing now that he’s brining in the heavy hitter polity wonks.

    Just off the top of my head…
    1.Our military alliances are obsolete and lopsided
    2.Our trade agreements are lopsided and have decimated the middle class
    3.Having an open border has allowed Mexico to export their poverty and dysfunction here and made us less prosperous and secure.

    Hell, even the NYTimes apparently agrees with some of the last point, unfortunately they’re unable to make the connection between Mexico’s corrupt government and the need to secure our common border. Typical libs, they can pinpoint the problem but can’t bring themselves to acknowledge the solution.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/opinion/mexico-runs-away-from-the-truth.html

  29. Comrade Nom Deplume. Citizen, 2nd Class. says:

    Just keeps getting better and better in the s0c1alist utopia

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/27/news/economy/venezuela-2-day-work-week/index.html

  30. Juice Box says:

    I have to wonder is EmailGate going away? No matter how much Ms. Clinton’s supporters want it to, there is still a chance of a criminal referral. The FBI and federal prosecutors should have finished the interviews of Huma Abedin and other Hillary aides by now, the Judge ruled about 2 months ago they must submit to being interviewed.

    I am totally picturing a scene from TV or a Movie where the FBI marches in wearing their blue vests with yellow FBI letters grabbing Hillary at the democratic convention, as she is on stage, preparing to accept the nomination. As she resists, she is heard on mic loudly screaming “ It’s a vast right wing conspiracy, I’ll kill every last !@#!ing one of you!!!”.

    In the end she will be undone by her own paranoia just like Richard Nixon.

  31. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The biggest problems came at the bottom, with growth in the share of students deemed “below basic” in their abilities. In math, 38% of students were in that group in 2015, compared with 35% two years earlier. In reading, 28% of students were “below basic,” compared with 25%.

    Peggy Carr, acting commissioner of the National Center for Education Statistics, which conducts the test, said officials couldn’t tie changes in scores to any particular education policies but demographic shifts may play a role. The dropout rate has improved for every racial and ethnic group, she said, so some struggling students who wouldn’t have taken the test in the past did so last year.

    Alex says:
    April 27, 2016 at 10:30 am
    28-

    Pumps, google the headline, and read the article.

  32. The Great Pumpkin says:

    33- The article reads like a chapter out of a book on income inequality. Every stat you see in that article can be blamed on income inequality. With Americans becoming either richer or poorer, it is no surprise that the scores at the top have improved while the scores at the bottom of have become worse.

  33. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    I saw this sort of stuff routinely during my time in the District, and its one reason I counsel clients to avoid the DoJ and FTC at all costs. A long read but it lends credence to something those of us who represented clients before the USG (or saw the USG’s workings from the inside) have long known. . . .

    http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-labmd-ftc-tiversa/

  34. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Not a fan of Trump, but will vote for him based on these issues.

    Is it no wonder that Asians generally do well in school as immigrants, as opposed to Latinos. Latinos coming over were generally from the bottom of the class structure while the majority of Asians coming over were not. These Latinos were the “blacks” of their country(look in paragraph below to understand my point), embracing the ghetto/gangster lifestyle. They don’t come here looking to improve their lot through education, they look to improve their life through gangster/illegal means.

    Majority of blacks in America are from the bottom of the social structure and embrace the “ghetto fabulous lifestyle”, they truly enjoy living like that. Even if they get money, most can’t leave the ghetto fabulous lifestyle, so they become ghetto rich.

    Please don’t call me racist for stating this, I’m just being truly honest here. The people of those populations that get out and live a “normal” life are the ones that embrace education and shun the ghetto lifestyle their peers embrace.

    nwnj3 says:
    April 27, 2016 at 10:37 am
    I don’t trust him but I’m not sure I would be so dismissive of Trump’s platform. Quite a bit of substance is developing now that he’s brining in the heavy hitter polity wonks.

    Just off the top of my head…
    1.Our military alliances are obsolete and lopsided
    2.Our trade agreements are lopsided and have decimated the middle class
    3.Having an open border has allowed Mexico to export their poverty and dysfunction here and made us less prosperous and secure.

    Hell, even the NYTimes apparently agrees with some of the last point, unfortunately they’re unable to make the connection between Mexico’s corrupt government and the need to secure our common border. Typical libs, they can pinpoint the problem but can’t bring themselves to acknowledge the solution.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/opinion/mexico-runs-away-from-the-truth.html

  35. Bystander says:

    nw,

    It is naive to believe Trump would accomplish any of those things. Each one would have giant consequences economically and politically. It would be chaos. Truth is that no one knows what Trump really believes or will accomplish. He will say anything to keep his name in head lines. There are no platforms even if you want to believe it. It would be a hands off wheel presidency. Can’t imagine when people start to criticize him. He will spend all day on Twitter defending himself and attacking others.

  36. libturd still chopping says:

    Trump is a chump. He’s hijacked the Republican Party. Hillary is status quo. I anxiously look forward to the upcoming debates when these two men go at it.

  37. libturd still chopping says:

    I can’t stand listening to either of these hypocrites speak. Trump has completely flip flopped on nearly every position he held the moment he joined the weak Republican ticket. It was a smart move on his point. He saw weakness and jumped. Hillary claims she’ll rein in Wall Street excesses as they pay her handsomely to keep her mouth shut. And truth be told, any woman who has no issue with her husband porking anyone he pleases is a sure sign of weakness. The fact she stuck with him for personal political gain makes her smarmy. Honestly, I could easily fathom eight more years of Obama over this mess.

  38. Essex says:

    Trump reminds me of the eighties.

  39. grim says:

    I keep hoping Trump comes on stage one day and completely turns his tune around, moderate – centrist, etc etc. But the stupid woman card comment shows that I’m probably being way too hopeful that he isn’t a complete idiot.

  40. Once again, I’ll be sitting out this election.

    Please wake me when the shooting revolution starts.

  41. Anon E. Moose says:

    Alex [24];

    “Just 37% of US High School Seniors Prepared for College Math and Reading, Test Shows.”

    But you can be damn sure they know which bathroom Katelyn is allowed to use!

  42. libturd still chopping says:

    Moose…pussies…we are all turning French.

  43. grim says:

    Am I the only one who thinks the only solution is co-ed bathrooms?

  44. grim says:

    Going to start a grassroots movement to rip down the male/female signs and replace them with non-gender restroom signs.

  45. Juice Box says:

    re #45 – Grim – they don’t want boys and girls using the same restroom, just transgender
    and not transvestite. Those are mutually exclusive.

  46. grim says:

    I don’t know what you mean – as long as he/she/xhe/it doesn’t shit all over the seat I’m not sure I care.

  47. 1987 Condo says:

    Grim, agree…just “restrooms” with stalls and doors that actually go to the floor…we are done…

  48. Fast Eddie says:

    Grim, agree…just “restrooms” with stalls and doors that actually go to the floor…we are done…

    I can’t disagree more. I’m f.ucking appalled that it’s even a debate and that it’s the main topic of discussion. This country is facing a rapid decline on many fronts and it’s painfully sad.

  49. Juice Box says:

    re# 48 – This is the end of the urinal, they are already shutting down the plants in Mexico. Time to short TYO (Japanese conglomerate that bought American Standard of Piscataway from Bain capital in 2013), they make their urinals in Mexico.

  50. Juice Box says:

    Grim – # 51 in mod please release.

  51. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Agree, this society is becoming a joke.

    Fast Eddie says:
    April 27, 2016 at 12:26 pm
    Grim, agree…just “restrooms” with stalls and doors that actually go to the floor…we are done…

    I can’t disagree more. I’m f.ucking appalled that it’s even a debate and that it’s the main topic of discussion. This country is facing a rapid decline on many fronts and it’s painfully sad.

  52. grim says:

    If gender is an issue, then get rid of it.

    Strike it, from everything, make it illegal to ask, force the government and companies to strike it from everything, marketers included.

    Who cares, it’s irrelevant.

  53. Fast Eddie says:

    [54],

    I can’t believe you aren’t outraged and you know why I’m saying it.

  54. grim says:

    Well my next comment is to eliminate the concept of race as well, and make that illegal.

  55. Fast Eddie says:

    I’m not talking about race. I’ll email you.

  56. leftwing says:

    “If gender is an issue, then get rid of it.
    Strike it, from everything, make it illegal to ask, force the government and companies to strike it from everything, marketers included.”

    And then we can all walk around naked all the time!! Woo-hoo!

  57. jcer says:

    39 Lib, I normally agree with you but honestly as bad as the options are, I welcome anything over Obama at this point. He has been hapless and is just as owned as Hillary. I welcome Trump only because it sends a clear message to the political class, he will be a one term president who accomplishes little but it will change the political landscape.

  58. GOP's broken (the good one) says:

    @ddiamond

    Total votes across #AcelaPrimary

    Clinton ——— 318,393
    Bernie ——- 241,975
    Trump —— 187,265
    Kasich — 68,676
    Cruz – 50,404

  59. Comrade Nom Deplume. Citizen, 2nd Class. says:

    [59] jcer

    “he will be a one term president who accomplishes little but it will change the political landscape”

    I’m thinking that, on balance, it won’t be in a good way.

  60. GOP's broken (the good one) says:

    @ThisweekABC

    Charles Koch says it’s “possible” Hillary Clinton could be a better president than GOP pick

  61. Comrade Nom Deplume. Citizen, 2nd Class. says:

    On or before May 7, my man (and fellow double alum) Ken Feinberg may (or may not) put the screws to the teamsters. Should be some news then.

    Or maybe not. Verizon on strike yet nary a mention in the news. Could it be that most folks don’t give a flying one about the plight of unions?

  62. GOP's broken (the good one) says:

    @HillaryClinton

    Not interested in endorsements from people who deny climate science and try to make it harder for people to vote.

  63. Comrade Nom Deplume. Citizen, 2nd Class. says:

    [62] twitiot

    Well duh, we’ve only been discussing that on this board for six months. She’ll triangulate so fast, you won’t be over your munchies before you’re staring at the driveshaft of a Prevost.

  64. nwnj3 says:

    #62

    Idiot, of course Hillary is the billionaire choice.

  65. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You should, otherwise you just come off as having the attitude of “I got mine, fu!k everyone else!”

    This Verizon strike matters to all of us. Sad that you don’t see why.

    Comrade Nom Deplume. Citizen, 2nd Class. says:
    April 27, 2016 at 1:44 pm
    On or before May 7, my man (and fellow double alum) Ken Feinberg may (or may not) put the screws to the teamsters. Should be some news then.

    Or maybe not. Verizon on strike yet nary a mention in the news. Could it be that most folks don’t give a flying one about the plight of unions?

  66. GOP's broken (the good one) says:

    @PaulKrugman

    This election is going to be a wonk’s nightmare.
    How do you debunk bad ideas when one side doesn’t even have ideas, just attitude?

  67. Bystander says:

    Funny, I can’t think of anything more political than building casinos in AC or Vegas or large towers in NYC yet he is a “political outsider” and knows how to buy politicians. He will change nothing. The corporate govt machine would need more than 4 years of Trump to change any meaningful policy. The last 4 years of Obama shows you how easy it is for House and Senate to basically pick up the ball and run the clock out on any presidency. There is no winner for America, come November.

  68. The Great Pumpkin says:

    67- Why would you cheer for the destruction of more American jobs? This will impact you in time, and it will certainly ruin your children’s chances at a respectable future.

    You know what this strike is about, right? It’s about verizon hiring non union workers with no benefits and crappy wages. So let’s cheer on the destruction of more American jobs, sounds real smart to me. At least Trump understands this and claims that he will try to do something about this with his slogan, “make America great again.”

  69. Bystander says:

    Grim

    #69 in mod.

  70. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [67, 70] pumps

    First, I’m one lone republican against an ocean of forces that are killing off the economy and the future, and sowing the seeds of discord. I’m not happy it’s happening but, from where I sit and from what I read, I think it inevitable.

    So, if it is inevitable, as I sort of concluded decades ago, what should I do? Well, prepare of course. If I think the dam will burst and the valley will flood, I should move to higher ground before everyone else, right? Oh, sure, I can stay and yell “the dam will burst” and I think I have been, but no one seems to believe me. So am I then obligated to stay down with the damned? Would you?

    I chose my profession because I am very much interested in it but also because it will prove to be a lifeboat in hard times. And I think I will do a better job protecting my family if I have more, keep more, and determine who gets it. I learned a lot watching the rich.

    Am I cheerleading the demise? I suppose you can see it that way (funny that I don’t have the power to make you see reason but I can singlehandedly talk down the economy), but at this point it is a function of my profession. Or to put it differently, let me leave you with the Lawyer’s Prayer:

    “Stir up much strife amongst thy people Lord, lest thy servant perish”

  71. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Trump built the Taj Majal. You think he will do anything about the h-1b issue?

  72. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [67] pumps

    And this should gall you no end: I’m making money off the Verizon strike, on both ends.

  73. leftwing says:

    “Charles Koch says it’s “possible” Hillary Clinton could be a better president than GOP pick”

    Not true, and that news cycle cleared a couple days ago. Horrible reporting.

    Question of Kock was ‘would you support any of the Repubs’. He basically says no. They follow with ‘well what about Hillary’. He nearly laughs and says ‘I would have to believe she would not implement any policy she supports’.

    From those two answers mainstream media outlets get that Kock would ‘possibly’ support Hillary or, worse, CBS with ‘Kock favors Hillary over Repubs’.

  74. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [64] twitiot

    “Not interested in endorsements from people who deny climate science and try to make it harder for people to vote.”

    You mean like democrats?

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-democrats-suppress-the-vote/

    http://www.forwardprogressives.com/why-are-liberals-denying-science-when-it-comes-to-gmos/

    Sorry everyone, I don’t like engaging the twitiot but this was too easy

  75. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Fair enough. I just wish more people saw the writing on the wall and did something about it.

    Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:
    April 27, 2016 at 2:24 pm
    [67, 70] pumps

    First, I’m one lone republican against an ocean of forces that are killing off the economy and the future, and sowing the seeds of discord. I’m not happy it’s happening but, from where I sit and from what I read, I think it inevitable.

    So, if it is inevitable, as I sort of concluded decades ago, what should I do? Well, prepare of course. If I think the dam will burst and the valley will flood, I should move to higher ground before everyone else, right? Oh, sure, I can stay and yell “the dam will burst” and I think I have been, but no one seems to believe me. So am I then obligated to stay down with the damned? Would you?

    I chose my profession because I am very much interested in it but also because it will prove to be a lifeboat in hard times. And I think I will do a better job protecting my family if I have more, keep more, and determine who gets it. I learned a lot watching the rich.

    Am I cheerleading the demise? I suppose you can see it that way (funny that I don’t have the power to make you see reason but I can singlehandedly talk down the economy), but at this point it is a function of my profession. Or to put it differently, let me leave you with the Lawyer’s Prayer:

    “Stir up much strife amongst thy people Lord, lest thy servant perish”

  76. D-FENS says:

    I’m going to start a grass roots campaign to poop in every urinal and urinate all over every toilet seat.

    No longer should we have separate plumbing fixtures for separate genders. It’s sexist and unfair. Equality for all.

  77. D-FENS says:

    Important election issues in 2016. Sad.

  78. Mackie's Special says:

    South Park beat you to it D-Fense

    https://youtu.be/zM1P0oc2-es

  79. Fast Eddie says:

    Can you imagine being in a public bathroom as an adult male and in walks an 11 year old girl? I would be mortified!! Sick! I am praying that this results in a rev0lution of sorts. I’ve f.ucking had it with you progressive @ssholes.

  80. Alex says:

    78-

    D-FENS

    Be sure to do it at Target headquarters. I’m sure they’d welcome it.

  81. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    I’m working on a regulation that would require all men’s rooms to have tampon dispensers and all women’s rooms to have condom dispensers. Though, I’m more in it for the latter.

  82. 1987 Condo says:

    I walked into the ladies room at Newark airport once because I self-identified as a dead tired, weary air traveler at the end of a very long business trip.

  83. Juice Box says:

    re# 84 – I have selfish reasons for not wanting universal restrooms. I really, really don’t want to wait in line with women, they simply take too damm long. I just want to walk in shake the snake and walk out (after washing my hands of course). There will be no snake shaking when they remove the urinals.

  84. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    The men’s rooms in terminal C should just be replaced with a trough. It already smells like the NYC subway anyway and usually, it’s just as crowded.

  85. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    I plan to perform a double decker in every ladies room until this issue is overturned.

  86. leftwing says:

    “I have selfish reasons for not wanting universal restrooms. I really, really don’t want to wait in line with women, they simply take too damm long. I just want to walk in shake the snake and walk out (after washing my hands of course). There will be no snake shaking when they remove the urinals.”

    Just whip it out and use the sink like at Jets, Flyers, etc games. It’s universal.

  87. leftwing says:

    Cruz picks Fiorino.

    What do these guys think? How do you make so many moves to undercut your goal?

    Public wants an outsider and believes DC is in it for themselves? Hey, let’s team up a Governor and Senator to stop the outsider frontrunner. That’ll work!!

    I’m banging a conservative, small government, freedom agenda against aforementioned outsider? Let me grab as my VP a failed corporate exec with a monstrous golden payout who topped out at 2% in the polls.

    How about saving everyone the time and just come out and endorse Trump directly, dumba$$.

  88. chicagofinance says:

    Relax, it’s OK for cheerleaders to look hot
    By Kyle Smith

    University of Washington cheerleader tryout ad.

    The news hit hard on the University of Washington campus. The students can’t believe it. I can’t believe it. Can you believe it?

    Cheerleaders, it turns out, are expected to have a certain look.

    “U-Dub” students (hey, that’s just one letter away from U Dumb!) were unloading on social media, crying to counselors and fleeing to safe spaces after the cheer team posted an infographic describing the look to strive for if you’re planning to try out for the squad. (In the routinely craven manner of all universities, the UW spirit program ordered the graphic removed and called in nine tons of smelling salts for those affected.)

    I repeat: The graphic was aimed only at young women seeking to be cheerleaders. Pasty-faced Womyn’s Struggles majors attending rallies in shapeless sweatshirts, and black-clad Emily Dickinson fans emoting agonized coffeehouse verse were not the target audience. It takes all kinds to make up a student body: dimpled, flirty blond girls with Southern accents and sour, achy ones who cut themselves among them.

    “I can’t believe this is real,” Jazmine Perez, the student government’s director of programming told the Seattle Times. “One of the first things that comes to mind is objectification and idealization of Western beauty,” she harrumphed.

    Signe Burchim, a UW senior, added, “I think it’s really upsetting and kind of disheartening the way it’s basically asking these women who want to try out to perform their femininity — but not too much.” She said men would never be subjected to such a message while trying out for a sport.

    Cheerleading is a sport? No, cheerleaders are dancers and acrobats you watch when there’s a break in the actual sport — the one where they keep score and report the results in the papers. And anyone who’s seen the cheer squads during, say, March Madness can tell you that for colleges like UW with co-ed cheerleading, there’s clearly a standard for dudes, too: If you look like Marilyn Manson or Howard Stern, you aren’t going to be picked. Always and forever, they’re looking for 1965 Mitt Romneys. Those who don’t already possess a large collection of pastel sweaters they tie rakishly around their necks need not apply.

    Contrary to Ms. Perez — who reminds us that college is a place where you pay $50,000 a year to unlearn the obvious — female beauty standards like facial symmetry and waist-hip ratio are pretty much universal. But here’s the thing she missed: The graphic made no demand that cheerleaders be pretty. Everything illustrated has to do with styling and presentation, not your actual attractiveness. And no, it isn’t racist: Race is nowhere mentioned or implied.

    Tailoring your look to a group’s standards is how almost everything works. You don’t show up to play baseball in a scuba suit. You don’t show up for a business meeting in board shorts and flip-flops, unless you work in Silicon Valley, in which case you don’t show up in a tie and wingtips. And you don’t wear Goth makeup, “Born To Be Bad” tats and fishnet tights to a cheerleading tryout — unless you’re doing a performance art piece, which might actually be funny.

    If you want to be a cheerleader, your hair should have “volume” and your eyelashes should be “false,” because that’s how cheerleaders roll. You don’t like it? Fine, do what everyone who feels the same way has been doing for decades: Sit in the bleachers, roll your eyes, make snarky jokes and stew in your jealousy.

  89. chicagofinance says:

    Facebook stock…….fcuk!

  90. Juice Box says:

    Carly reminds me of an upper decker. She should have been flushed a decade ago when HP fired her, she hasn’t had a job since then.

  91. Bystander says:

    Having been to plenty of Big East basketball games in the day, it always appeared to me that Seton Hall had no cheerleading beauty standards. Lots of Italian girls eating too much of mama’s pasta. No real excuse either..Syracuse had a cheerleading team and a dance squad stocked with talent.

  92. chicagofinance says:

    It is moderately brave, if 30 years tardy, of Rensin to say that what he calls the “Correct Culture” (i.e., what everyone else has been calling political correctness since before he was born) has “come to replace politics itself.” When Rensin decries “a politics that insists it has no ideology at all, only facts,” it’s impossible not to think of President Obama, who, Rensin adds, this time only eight years tardily, embodied smugness when he offered no antidote for industrial job losses but instead dismissed disaffected working-class Americans as “bitter” folks who “cling to guns and religion.”

    The Vox essayist concludes that progressives are afflicted by a “failure of empathy” (!) and should actually do something to help the working- and middle-class people whose interests they claim to represent, but if he went all the way down the same path, he would understand the core reason for liberal smugness: Ridiculing opponents is easier than arguing with them. Liberals don’t want debate, they want affirmation.

  93. chicagofinance says:

    above was quoted

  94. Essex says:

    92. didn’t need one as she took HP for millions.

    Kept her off the streets.

  95. Essex says:

    81. Whatever Hasert.

  96. grim says:

    Whatever happened to the good ol’ piss trough anyway.

  97. willwork4beer says:

    Grim 98/99

    Last one I used was a few years ago at the Jax Brewery in New Orleans.

    Took a picture to show to my brother. It’s not that weird. My brother is an old school plumber.

  98. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Got jobs? We are so screwed.

    “In America’s factories, jobs are inevitably disappearing, too. But despite the political rhetoric, the problem is not mainly globalization. Manufacturing jobs are on the decline in factories around the world.

    “The observation is uncontroversial,” said Joseph Stiglitz, the Nobel-winning economist at Columbia University. “Global employment in manufacturing is going down because productivity increases are exceeding increases in demand for manufactured products by a significant amount.”

    The consequences of this dynamic are often misunderstood, not least by politicians offering slogans to fix them.

    No matter how high the tariffs Mr. Trump wants to raise to encircle the American economy, he will not be able to produce a manufacturing renaissance at home. Neither would changing tax rules to limit corporate flight from the United States, as Mrs. Clinton proposes.

    “The likelihood that we will get a manufacturing recovery is close to nil,” Professor Stiglitz said. “We are more likely to have a smaller share of a shrinking pie.”

    Look at it this way: Over the course of the 20th century, farm employment in the United States dropped to 2 percent of the work force from 41 percent, even as output soared. Since 1950, manufacturing’s share has shrunk to 8.5 percent of nonfarm jobs, from 24 percent. It still has a ways to go.

    The shrinking of manufacturing employment is global. In other words, strategies to restore manufacturing jobs in one country will amount to destroying them in another, in a worldwide zero-sum game.

    The loss of such jobs has created plenty of problems in the United States. For the countless workers living in less developed reaches of the world, though, it adds up to a potential disaster.

    Japan’s long stagnation can be read as a consequence of a decades-long development strategy that left the nation overly dependent on manufacturing. “They are focused on a dead-end business,” said Bruce Greenwald, an expert on investment strategy at Columbia Business School. “They are not eliminating hours of work in manufacturing fast enough to keep pace with the reduction in work needed.””

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/business/economy/the-mirage-of-a-return-to-manufacturing-greatness.html

  99. Did Jeb Bush and Rubio announce their running mates yet?

  100. [98] Damn, my memory is fading. I’m thinking the old Yankee Stadium had the conventional one and Fenway had the circular one, or is it the other way around?

    Whatever happened to the good ol’ piss trough anyway.

  101. The Great Pumpkin says:

    102-

    “This is even happening in a manufacturing behemoth like China — which appears to have maxed out the industrial export strategy at a much lower income level than its successful Asian predecessors, like Japan and Taiwan.

    For poorer countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America, the decline of manufacturing as a bountiful source of jobs puts an end to the prime path to riches that the modern world has followed.”

    “The first large transition from agriculture to industry in the early 20th century — well lubricated by public spending on world wars — liberated workers from their chains far more effectively than Karl Marx’s revolution ever did.

    The current transition, from manufacturing to services, is more problematic. In poor countries, Mr. Rodrik says, workers may have to pare back their aspirations of development. Who knows “how will political systems manage?” he asks.

    In the United States, the political challenge is no less daunting. Low pay married to high profits in much of the service economy are contributing to a widening income chasm that is rending society in all sorts of ways. Used to the prosperity once delivered by manufacturing, American workers are rebelling against the changing tide.

    Note to Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Sanders and Mr. Trump: A grab at the world’s manufacturing jobs is the wrong answer. Walls will damage prosperity, not enhance it. Promises to recapture industrial-era greatness ring hollow.

    The United States, though, does have options: health care, education and clean energy, just to name a few. They present big economic and political challenges, of course — not least the enormous inefficiency of private American medicine and Republicans’ blanket opposition to more public spending.

    Yet just as the federal government once provided a critical push to move the economy from its agricultural past into its industrial future, so, too, could it help build a postindustrial tomorrow.”

  102. [104] I kind of remember the first one I used with my Dad, maybe Shea? I thought we were working as a team trying to fill it up.

  103. Comrade Nom Deplume. Citizen, 2nd Class. says:

    [104] expat

    Other way around

  104. leftwing says:

    “Whatever happened to the good ol’ piss trough anyway”

    I really liked the urinals that stood so high they were taller than you. Could literally be buried in it. What place had those, Irish, 16th/17th street or so in manhattan?

    On the other side, took my not yet wife on a date and we had drinks at the Royalton shortly after it opened. Phillipe Starck designed. She goes to the bathroom, and is gone for an insane amount of time even for woman. Finally comes out.

    Starck design was all polished aluminum and mirrors. She got in there, and couldn’t find the door back out until another group of ladies entered LOL. Everything was polished and reflecting. Hall of mirrors.

    It was a cool mens room too. Same theme, all polished aluminum, pi$$ed on the entire metal wall with water slowly sheeting down from the top. More than once got banged up enough and wasn’t sure if the wall I was pi$$ing on was the right one or not LOL.

  105. [108] The American Legion in Shamokin, PA (my Mom’s hometown, where my grandparents lived). I remember urinalys that were about 4.5 tall when I was 4 feet tall. Back around 1970 I freaked an old guy out standing along that row of urinals. Shamokin had a dress code and haircut code even for public school back then. Being a 10 year old with around Beatles length hair I could only be taken for a girl at a casual glance because my haircut did not compute compared to the crewcuts of other boys my age. I was visiting my grandparents on some Spring holiday week and they took me where everybody went for action in Shamokin, the circuit of private bars, hose houses (fire stations), and private clubs. I was playing shuffleboard and drinking soda, eating candy at the American Legion when eventually I had to go to the men’s room. I happened to go in when an old drunk was already at the long row of urinals and he yelled, “No, no, no! Girlie, you have to go in the other bathroom!” I just ignored him and pulled out my business which confused him for what seemed like a long time.

    I really liked the urinals that stood so high they were taller than you. Could literally be buried in it. What place had those, Irish, 16th/17th street or so in manhattan?

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