Tax tax tax tax tax tax tax

From the Star Ledger:

N.J. Legislature passes 23-cent gas tax hike, road funding plan

New Jersey is poised to lose its claim to the second-lowest gas taxes in the nation.

The state Legislature on Friday passed legislation raising the tax on gasoline sold in New Jersey by 23 cents a gallon, the centerpiece of a controversial tax package that also includes $1.4 billion in tax cuts.

As part of the deal, lawmakers voted to give a tax break for people with pension and retirement income, low-income workers and veterans. In addition, they voted to eliminate the estate tax over the next 15 months and roll back the sales tax slightly.

The most recent iteration of the tax bills never got a public hearing. The deal was struck last Friday afternoon by Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican, and Senate President Stephen Sweeney (D-Gloucester) and Assembly Speaker Vincent Prieto (D-Hudson).

The 23-cent increase to 37.5 cents a gallon will drive the state’s gas tax from second-lowest to seventh-highest, though still below neighboring Pennsylvania and New York. The tax has not been raised since 1988.

The Senate passed the tax package 24-14, with 19 Democrats and five Republicans in favor, and the Assembly, 44-27, with 37 Democrats and seven Republicans in favor, sending it to Christie’s desk.

It will go into effect Nov. 1 or two weeks after it is signed by the governor, whichever is later.

Lawmakers say the increase will finance an eight-year, $16 billion Transportation Trust Fund, which pays for road, bridge and rail projects across the state.

“Today, that difficult vote will allow us to make a significant investment in a crumbling infrastructure,” said Sen. Paul Sarlo (D-Bergen), a bill sponsor. “Our state is ranked at the bottom when it comes to investment in our roads, our bridges, our utilities. We are at the bottom. For a state that has so much promise, so much wealth to be ranked at the bottom … is not a good position to be.”

The compromise tax package comes after years of growing concern about the future of funding for a declining transportation network and after months of political wrangling.

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88 Responses to Tax tax tax tax tax tax tax

  1. soutwin says:

    How does the vote on the constitutionally dedicated funds go on NOV …..

  2. soutwin says:

    oops ….If it gets rejected

  3. Raymond Reddington says:

    These guys really needed a tax break. I would gladly pay double the gas tax so they don’t have to eat cat food during their retirement…

    http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/16/03/13/the-list-retired-nj-officials-with-100-000-plus-public-pensions-doubles-in-five-years/

  4. Grab them by the puzzy (the good one) says:

    @NYDailyNews

    UPDATE:

    Idaho Sen. Mike Crapo pulls his endorsement of Trump and
    urges him to let Pence lead the GOP ticket

  5. Does anyone know whether the egg or chicken came first, meaning the leaked Hillary speech red flags or the Trump cunt-grabbing tape? My inclination is that the Clinton campaign had the Trump tape chambered for a long time, but weren’t about to fire yet. Then along came Wikileaks, but they suddenly needed to call an audible and fire it into this weekend’s news cycle.

  6. Grab them by the puzzy (the good one) says:

    @paulkrugman

    No they don’t, and they never will.

    @JohnJHarwood
    at some point,
    those who’ve spent years demonizing President Obama have to face the fact that he’s been a sterling exemplar of family values

  7. I call bullsh1t on this explanation of how the tape came to light (from CNN, of course). Just that they feel compelled to explain fabricate the how and when is a clear tell-tale (tell-tail?).

    The videotape of Donald Trump that is shaking up the presidential election sat forgotten on a shelf at NBC’s “Access Hollywood” until just a few days ago.
    On Monday, according to an NBC source, one of the entertainment newsmagazine’s producers remembered Trump’s 2005 taping session with former “Access” co-host Billy Bush.

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/07/media/access-hollywood-donald-trump-tape/index.html

    BTW, who here has ever asked first before grabbing some kitty?

  8. I wonder if there will be an exclusive interview with Billy Bush about grabbing puzzy? You can’t make this stuff up.

    Maybe the Hollywood crowd will now get behind Trump. They have to be saying to themselves, privately, at least.“Duh? That’s how it has always been. Well yeah, there should be cocaine first.”

    “I just start kissing them..Just kiss. I don’t even wait,’ Trump said. “And when you’re a star they let you do it.”

  9. Grab them by the puzzy (the good one) says:

    @FranklinLeonard

    .@tedcruz capitulating two weeks too early to lay claim to the party mantle couldn’t have been written better by Shakespeare.

  10. 30 year realtor says:

    When was America great? When you could talk about grabbing p#ssy without repercussions!

  11. I remember when you could talk about carrying a woman away from a frat party like a bowling ball.

  12. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Call this the Delaware Gas Attendants Full Employment Act.

  13. Flee the country for safety of kids? says:

    Anon…

    Many times when people are shown with proof that they have been wrong for a long time, those people usually double down and become more aggressive as a mechanism to deal with cognitive dissonance. Things will actually get worse, way worse, before they get better [if at all].

    A majority of people on this board are well educated, successful people, and are nice in person. Most are from a “liberal” North East state, and I know some of the people here personally for a long time. However, there was a series of posts that put the fear of safety of my kids for the first time in NJ (my usual joke is that I like NJ because here people are very rude but they are rude to everyone equally).

    It stared with a claim that “some American I know received death threats when he was working in India” (subtext “are we weak when we don’t give death threats to Indians that are in America?”). Then there was a call for “kick out everyone [and their families] that ever was on a h1b” — almost all international students get onto h1b on the way from practical training to green card (I am sure that h1bs from some countries will be more equal than those from other countries).

    Then there was someone of Chinese ancestry whose grandparents or parents came from China around 1945 (just about two years after a “no Chinese” law was lifted) and his stated belief was that it was the perfect time to stop immigration (not two years before and not a day after). The logic was bizarre, but actually very scary.

    Then there was a gracious statement about who were worthy immigrants — turns out Jewish immigrants were/are worthy immigrants because they were hard working and educated (but not when they actually needed help in late 30’s). However Indians are are either not well educated and rig the system, or well educated but work for very low wages (doesn’t matter most are on green cards or are citizens). I am sure there was some excuse from the 30’s people about Jewish immigrants too — economy was bad, they may be stealing jobs, they may be willing to work longer hours for lower pay, and so on…

    By all measures many “richer” people on this board have been much better off financially in the last eight years (most money in stocks has more than doubled), there is a high demand at the top end of job market (people that applied to my work place have been getting multiple offers and we frequently lose out, there is a bleed of people from here to the G’s and FB’s, and the main h1b’s if any are for fresh PhDs — costs a lot to get their h1b plus GC sponsorship). It is safe enough to assume many people have done well during the last eight years (unless they compare with “but, we’d have made ten-times more if not for x, y, z”).

    The thing that put the real fear in me is the following: there is this conspicuous bigotry even when the economy is improving. The economy is doing well for at least for the top 5-10% earners and the markets are rewarding people that live below their means — markets and invest wisely (unless you are invested in Chris Christie’s friend’s hedge fund or in Glen Beck recommended gold coins). Sorry, the term “bigotry” is justified when an otherwise reasonable and educated person in a state like NJ makes a blanket statement that amounts to “kick all Indians and their children out because some Indians gamed the h1b system”.

    When and if the economy goes down, what confidence one can have that the same group of people won’t do horrible things (especially if doing so may directly benefit them financially). Add to that an indirect backing of the legal system and law enforcement — since they would know the town mayor, cops, prosecutor, school teachers, etc., personally (when compared to a poor schmuck whose parties are children’s birthday parties). Add to that, there are more guns in the hands of bigots.

    They have a personal excuse (“these guys have lowered my imaginary 500k/yr salary by working for a lowly 200k/yr salary”), they have a dog whistle (“these guys came here semi-legally because I know many that gamed the system”), they have a moral outrage (“my friend was discriminated against when he went to India [never mind that most Indians worship white skin], so it is only for justice”), they will more likely than not have the support of the system, and they will more likely have the means to do damage via second amendment remedies.

    It will be a powder-keg if the economy dives. Of course, after about 70 years one of their grandkids will throw in a generous, “Indian immigrants are educated and hard working” and done [like Trump saying “Obama was born in US, period.”]

    It would be a poetic justice for the bigots if Trump wins and puts his family and cronies that are like him in charge.

    The next generation will have a nice poem somewhat along these lines…
    First Trump went after brown people, kicked them out, and you were excited…
    Then he went after black people, jailed them all, and you were aroused…
    Then his cronies went after your wives and daughters, grabbed them by their pu**ies, and you were finished [one way or other]…

    There was only one other time I spoke against Grim and the board… When there was controversy about the mosque in NYC a few years ago, Grim posted a “remember 9/11”. I noted that the headline post around 9/11 in 2006 through that year were never about “remember 9/11” and likely it was never about it. I called it fake patriotism and my post was deleted [I had my correct email but different nick so Grim would know]. I am doing it again — people that need to know know who I am, and some random nut with a gun will likely be too busy fighting people on facebook to read this…

  14. Flee – I don’t specifically remember the events on this board that you brought up, but I don’t read every post every day, so I let that slide as you seemed to be building up to possibly some salient point about economically driven mob mentality…but then, the whole last half of your lengthy post reads like a paid Clinton ad, “I’m Hillary Clinton and I’m hear to deliver and important message. You are a racist if you vote for Trump, don’t pay attention to what I am.”

    This part is laughable and borders on plagiarism, “First they came for…and I said nothing” etc.
    First Trump went after brown people, kicked them out, and you were excited…
    Then he went after black people, jailed them all, and you were aroused…
    Then his cronies went after your wives and daughters, grabbed them by their pu**ies, and you were finished [one way or other]…

    PS Don’t you have some code you should be debugging?

  15. here to deliver an important message.

    Sheesh. I occasionally substitute a homonym when I’m typing fast, and that’s just a faulty mind, but substituting “and” for “an” is, I think, a muscle memory keyboard type of thing I do often. I don’t think there is any way I would make that mistake writing longhand. Anyone else have the same affliction?

  16. My wife asked me yesterday if I thought that secretaries still take shorthand. I told her that there are no such thing as secretaries anymore.

  17. grim says:

    Is a secretary like an office wife?

  18. grim says:

    Don’t put words in my mouth. That 9/11 post had nothing to do with the mosque near ground zero, which I could care less about. You saw what your own bias wanted you to see.

    I’ve made more than 5100 posts to date. Plenty of them were made simply because they were the first thing that came to the top of my search on any given morning.

  19. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Safety of kids?

  20. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Where you gonna go?

  21. Dr.Bombay says:

    He’s going to go back to India to enjoy the great society, social welfare and all those freat tropical diseases -LOL- I’ll believe it when I see it. Only if he’s a Brahmin, anything else especially a dalits he’s staying.

    Immigration needs to slow downs because the country needs chewing time. Just like you bite into a big nice Hoboken’s Mr.Big (still in business?) sandwich, you need chewing time before the next bite. In immigration the chewing time allows for Americanization and forgetting about the loser country you came from.

    Perfect example is two italians I have known. One a WW2 veteran, career in public service, created a great volunteer organization serving the community. The other one a sicilian emigre with those bad sicilian tendencies and went to destroy the organization that did good for personal profit. One was an American of italian descent. The other was an italian period. The transformation of italian to American of italian descent is why you need chewing time in immigration.

  22. Mc Box says:

    Re: Flee.

    Where you gonna go? After all according to the latest leaks of Podesta’s emails whicheck show Hillary has been giving speeches on a bordered world. That simply means we all get to be poor toghether.

  23. Dammit, I’m mad as hell. We need to make America damn great again and who the hell can do that better than a man who knows real estate? These stinking liberals and damn RINO’s conspired to rob the damn people of their true damn choice for president. Trump can save this damn country and I don’t give a tinker’s damn if he wanted to grab some damn cats. There’s nothing wrong with that dammit and it damn sure isn’t animal abuse. Leave it to a bunch of stinking liberals and real estate terrorists to muck stuff up. Trump is the best damn thing we have since W. Let me tell you something, Trump had better not quit and if he goes down, then the entire stinking group of RINO’s that have infected my damn party go down also. We have to get this damn country back to flipping and all the damn good times before liberals and real estate terrorists did their undermining.

  24. Fabius Maximus says:

    Grim,
    As always, this is your site and you are free to run it how you like. Thank you for allowing us to play in your sand box.
    I recall the post. He made a bad joke, you deleted it and he apologised. What was notable at the time and I think I pointed out, if there are posts that you think cross a line, you will censor. My problem with that is, if you will censor a post, then you own all the ones that you don’t.
    A perfect example is the C word. There have been several of us have objected to its use. As is is still not on the blacklist I can only assume you condone the use.
    I would say report his entry and let us judge the bias. The post can’t be as bad as what we have seen in this place lately. Fear is correct, this place has got ugly. Thats why I called it Trumpland.

  25. Fabius Maximus says:

    report = repost

  26. Fabius Maximus says:

    Great day today. It is World Girls Hockey Day. Took my kid down to the Prudential for Free Clinics. Great on and off ice sessions. Lots of free swag and they got to stand by the glass while the Dev1ls practiced.
    I’m lovin this sport!

  27. Fabius Maximus says:

    Talking to a friend from the MTA last week. He had said there was no way that train was doing 10mph when it it. The other point he made was that they were very lucky the engine was on the back. If it had been on the front, it would have continued into the Hudson.

  28. Flee? says:

    STEAMTurd,

    About kids’ safety… while it sounds cheesy, if shit hits the fan, all bets are off.

    Imagine if Trump had a squeaky-clean record, disclosed everything, and knew how to speak coherently… It’s only a matter of time that a smart demagogue will rise if the the economy is leaving behind many people and they eventually become receptive out of sheer frustration…

    About where I would go (if the signs point to high chance of danger)… No idea, but all scenarios I thought of involve some amount of regrouping time. I’ve been thinking about selling off the house and staying mobile, so if push comes to shove, I can bolt, regroup and then figure out what to do. Canada is an option, India will probably suck (the kids don’t know much about India, too much corruption, way more racism/discrimination than here [oppression of one group by another is a bad thing irrespective of what group one belongs to], too much income/wealth inequality, many bad things…), but is probably the only place where I can go in without a visa.

    Selling the house at the last minute is not an option because it will be a few months’ process. If there is an option to do a cash-out mortgage with just 5% equity, that would be ideal — I can do jingle mail if SHTF with a short notice, and no loss if things never get bad.

    Probably these are better discussed in person… When someone expresses concerns about signs of xenophobia, that person will more frequently than not be accused of abetting xenophobia. No good can come out of these public discussions.

  29. Flee? says:

    Mc Box,

    If the whole world becomes poor somewhat uniformly, the people in US will have a greater loss in quality of life than those in other countries. That will probably lead to more resentment in US than in other countries. The disparity between the standard of living in US and that in other countries has been getting narrower anyway, so people in US are likely to see it as some other country gaining at the expense of their jobs.

    In any case, it is like when someone decides to leave a job. It is often not about money or better prospects. One gets unhappy at a job, tries to fix it, and eventually starts seeking another job, and at times gets a very good offer. The analogy breaks down because there is a vast gulf between US and other countries in terms of simple freedoms and quality of life that a diverse group of people can enjoy (e.g. a high quality of life in nordic countries or Switzerland won’t count). But, it will be like moving from a good, high-paying job in a nice company where a new management condones harassment and you may at some time be in line of fire, and moving to a much lower-paying job where there is no harassment. It is a shitty situation overall…

  30. Fabius Maximus says:

    Expat,

    Why are people surprised. We all knew the emails were coming and that Hillary had dry powder. My view is that is the last we see from the leaks and the GOP, but I would be very surprised if there is not more on Trump tucked away.

    I read a Precis of the leaked material and I didn’t see much there. The worst would be their brand paranoia and micro management. Everything, even GS, is how will this look to the voters.

    It was a no story and was buried under that Howizer. Fun part now is that he cant get off the ballot and they cant ascend Pence to the top. Hard to see how he comes back from this, but this debate will be fun. He has to show up and start firing.

  31. Fabius Maximus says:

    The headlines say it all.

    CONDI: ENOUGH! PENCE PRAYS
    MCCAIN PULLS THE PLUG
    REPORT: Priebus Strips Trump’s Funding… RNC Halts ‘Trump Victory Project’… UPDATE: 6 Senators Bail… Pence Team ‘Apoplectic,’ ‘Melting Down’… Former Aide: I Regret Ever Working For Him… TRUMP: ‘Zero Chance I’ll Quit’…
    Top Republicans Denounce Him — But Still Endorse Him!… How Shocking!…

  32. Grim says:

    You can’t take three steps in Ireland without hearing the c word. I blame your kind.

  33. Gluteus – Stop being such a hairy c-word.

    Found on FB:
    Just so we are clear here – 50 Shades of Grey sold over 100 Million copies and is an all-time top 10 selling book, but the world is appalled by Trump’s comments? Who the hell was buying all those books? I don’t know a single guy who read it.
    Puleezeeeeeeee. Y’all are hypocrites, but we knew that.

  34. Bring a smile back to politics!
    Regardless of who wins the presidential election this November, we will witness history being made.
    If Hillary Clinton wins the U.S. presidential election, it will be the first time in history that two U.S. presidents have slept with each other!
    If Donald Trump wins the U.S. presidential election, it will be the first time in history that a billionaire moves into public housing vacated by a black family!
    Is this a great country or what?

  35. No One says:

    Trump is a historically disastrous candidate for President and will soon be exposed as a yuge loser. Personally, professionally, and politically, with no brain, small hands, and a limp wiener. The primary reason to flee America will be a debt crisis and massive tax increases.

  36. Mc Box says:

    Fab you are an idiot, the ballots cannot be changed. Go fly a kite already.

  37. Fabius Maximus says:

    Grim,

    Thats your justification? You condone it, you own it.

    Flee, looks like your initial assessment had some traction.

  38. Fabius Maximus says:

    Expat,

    Why the C letter? You are getting the go ahead from Grim, that the whole word is fine to use in here.

    Here is a little PSA that might put you on the road to enlightenment.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8

  39. Fabius Maximus says:

    McBox,

    That’s the point I made. The ballots were locked pretty much, when the paperwork was filed in each state.

    Any attempt to change would be fought through the courts in every state. Each ending up in the Supreme Court. Trump won’t go quietly and the Dems will fight every inch

  40. No One says:

    Flee,
    That was a long winded complaint about something. Not worth my time to untangle your writing for you. I’m confident that Grim has been a more gracious host than any of his visitors have deserved, and it would take an extremely victimization-phobic mentality to complain about him.

  41. It’s a little thing called a sense of humor, which is kind of a strange, exotic entity. For liberals, that is.

    Expat,

    Why the C letter? You are getting the go ahead from Grim, that the whole word is fine to use in here.

  42. Only if she has her own email server and a bad memory further compromised by blood clots, disease, and bad ideas.

    Is a secretary like an office wife?

  43. Grim says:

    Take it up with WordPress, it’s not included in the default blacklist, and please realize that any other profanity included in the filters are intended to stop pornography spammers, not restrict usage of language. There are plenty of crude, abrasive, and insulting words that are not blacklisted, none of those are intentional either.

    Why exactly are you hell bent on policing a word that has appeared less than 8 times in the 12,170 total comments posted on this blog. 7 if you don’t count the time someone posted to see if it was blacklisted. 6 if you remove the post that was a quote from One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.

    That total of 8 usages represent 0.066% of total posts made, 0.049% if you accept the exclusions. 1 in 2030 posts.

    I would argue the average Irishman uses the word at least more times in any single day than it’s ever been used here. Aren’t you a rugby fan? Isn’t it pretty much the de-facto insult on the pitch?

    As far as I can tell, it’s only twice that it’s actually referred to a female, and not male, so that’s 0.016% of total post, and one of those was the Cuckoo’s Nest quote. The others follow the Oxford English Dictionary usage of “an unpleasant or stupid person.”

    If I search MotherJones.com – I find 315 occurrences. They’ve used it about 40x more than we have.

    I don’t believe that I’ve ever used it myself, nor do I care about rugby. Why don’t you go try getting Shakespeare banned, he loved the word.

  44. Fabius Maximus says:

    Grim, that’s not a justification, that’s an excuse.

    So are racial stereotypes now acceptable? Do we get to post on your Polish heritage? When that line was crossed and the dump button was hit.

    Yes, I will be the police, for this word, and others, because its clear you won’t. Calling developmentally disabled the R word, the rampant misogyny, not just against Hillary, but Sue Adler, Barbara Corcoran, women in general etc etc etc, You have your line and it does not seem to stretch far enough to cover. Just because it goes on in the locker room, doesn’t make it justified.

    Again, you define the standard in here. You draw the line here in Trumpland. You condone it, you own it.

    Off to ComicCon with the Kids.

  45. Grim says:

    Surprised that you enjoy misogynistic sexualized caricatures of women and that you are subjecting your children to that.

  46. Deplorable is a bad word too says:

    ComicCon is for cucks, you will fit right in.

  47. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Policeman, Rory? Why not seek promotion? Surely O’Brien’s spot will open up someday. After all, Victory Gin can’t keep all of us down and the Party will need committed cadres

  48. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Policeman, Rory? Why not seek promotion? Surely O’Brien’s spot will open up someday. After all, Victory Gin can’t keep all of us down and the Party will need committed cadres.

  49. Mc Box says:

    One particular email exchange between Hillary Clinton and Podesta shows the candidate has a serious problem with blacks and Muslims. It’s not just a serious problem, it’s downright racist.

    In the email from February of this year Hillary states that:

    “The main reason behind successful immigration should be painfully obvious to even the most dimwitted of observers: Some groups of people are almost always highly successful given only half a chance (Jews*, Hindus/Sikhs and Chinese people, for example), while others (Muslims, blacks** and Roma***, for instance) fare badly almost irrespective of circumstances.”

    Hillary continues by labeling blacks & Muslims “professional never-do-wells.”

    Can you imagine the reaction from the MSM if Donald Trump said that!

  50. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Curiously, in my world, it had fallen out of popular usage. Hadn’t heard it used until I watched In Bruges and started hanging out with more Brits. You hear Irish and Brits use it liberally. It’s even in a song by the Police.

    In fact, it hasn’t occurred to me to call anyone a cunt until Rory started bleeding all over us. That’s probably one of the reasons he won’t go home–all the bullying.

  51. Grim says:

    Australians love it as well

  52. Anon E. Moose, saying 'Come back, JJ' says:

    Grim, that’s not a justification, that’s an excuse.

    Grim, the problem with arguing with idiots is that they’re not bright wnough to know when they’ve been pwned…

    Off to ComicCon with the Kids.

    Did you get them back to their father on time?

  53. Pr says:

    “Can you imagine the reaction from the MSM if Donald Trump said that!”

    Wow this board has become so incredible gullible and just uncritically regurgitates any propaganda they read.

    Email in question is here. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1637. It wasn’t written by Hillary Clinton. Took me about a minute to figure that out.

  54. Juice Box says:

    Yeah it should have said Clinton Campaign, not Hillary herself. There are lots of these emails coming over the next few weeks apparently. After “taco bowls,” “superpredators,” “deplorables,” and “basement dwellers” it isn’t really so far fetched to see how the Hillary Clinton campaign members talk amongt themselves.

    The moralizing hypocrisy is what ticks me off the most, and the duplicity of stuff she does say in her private paid speeches. “You need both a public and a private position”.

    In a 2013 speech, Clinton told members of the National Multi-Housing Council, “you need both a public and a private position” in politics.
    “I mean, politics is like sausage being made,” she said. “It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position.”

    Here is a CNN link.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/07/politics/john-podesta-emails-hacked/

  55. I think I’ll just refer to Gluteus from now on with his new Nom de Plume, Harry Seward.

  56. BTW, try using the word fanny in any context around a Brit. Even worse, ask a Brit what his wife has inside her fanny pack and you may get punched before you finish the sentence. OTOH, call him the word under discussion here and everyone will laugh, except Harry, that is.

    http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fanny

  57. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Peter, I didn’t see the excerpt in your posted link. Was I wrong?

  58. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    More important than some Irish cunt getting his panties in a bunch over thoughtcrime, Tom Brady is back and looking sharp.

  59. Flee? says:

    Fabius, STEAM, McBox,

    Thanks for supportive comments and very relevant questions. This is a simple risk estimation for something like next five to ten years.

    I bet that if I had phrased my concern as “I think this country is going to shit because of Obama and Hillary, so what should my plan be?”, I’d have probably received actionable advice (some Indian guys I know landed in Singapore but have US citizenship, and mainly complain about taxes).

    Since I phrased the question as “I think this country is going to shit because of rising intolerance and rising income inequalities”, I’m getting advice like “there is nothing wrong with America. Go back to the shit hole called India”.

    Ok, I will bite! I will take off the Clinton/Kaine sticker, put up a Trump sign and try again. My kid’s school is still a dumb-down experience (she has to pretend to be dumb so that she doesn’t attract the wrath of the school), paper-pushers at some workplaces are blatantly sabotaging organizations and outsourcing jobs to some Indian bodyshops [see 1]. I think NJ economy will go down the drain (juicy pension schemes, double dipping, underfunded pensions, and crony hedge funds that get to milk the funds). I think a bad extremist muslim [see 2] with assault rifles and a hatred for America [see 3] may end up doing some damage. What advice would you give to a red-blooded American [see 4] who may be open to exploring options.

    [1] There are paper-pushers that sabotage projects, then outsource stuff to Indian bodyshops that bring in bodies from India, and eventually complain about immigrants. They get to eat their cake and have it too.

    [2] Or a brainwashed right-wing nut job — doesn’t matter who fires the bullet, it kills the same.

    [3] Or a rwnj that loves some abstract concept of America but hates everything about America, especially the government

    [4] Or an immigrant — most I know are either permanent residents if not naturalized citizens

  60. grim says:

    Why do you need to put a sticker on at all?

  61. Flee – the new Pumps.

  62. I think she does it for other reasons. BTW, the proper terminology is dumbed-down and you are still using the term in an improper context.

    My kid’s school is still a dumb-down experience (she has to pretend to be dumb so that she doesn’t attract the wrath of the school)

  63. Flee – By any chance do you own a home on a very busy road? Did you overpay as well?

  64. Grim says:

    What does “pretend to be dumb” mean?

  65. BTW, I think all of the women who are supposed to be offended will go 50 shades of Trump voting curtain grey when the time comes.

  66. RE:Trump

    Can anybody work up a profile of the voter who was going to vote for Trump and is now not?

    My inclination is that the smear campaign skews the polls even worse to under-reporting Trump support, i.e. there are now more lying voters who say they are not voting for Trump, but will. In addition, I think there are probably more educated voters who were on the fence and are smart enough to objectively weigh, not only her speech excerpts, but the campaign’s proactive acts to find all the bad stuff in her speeches, against a little puzzy grabbing comment from a dozen years ago. Who asks permission to grab a puzzy, anyway? No means no, but the question is never verbal.

  67. Flee? says:

    I like Clintons and Obama (independent of Trump). Sent in a few bucks for first time ever recently.

    ExPat, NJ is a state that voted twice for Hillary Clinton (2008 and 2016 primaries), thrice for Bill Clinton (1992 primaries, 1992 and 1996 general), and twice for Obama (2008 and 2012 general), and will be voting for Hillary in 2016 general. Whenever a Clinton or Obama ran for election, NJ has voted for them (and when it was a choice between Obama and Clinton, they picked Clinton).

    And, you are surprised that someone from NJ would support Clinton?

  68. Fabius Maximus says:

    Grim,

    Keep reaching and keep trying to put it back on me. I see the usual trolls jumping up with the insults.

    Yes comics and gaming have issues and it is slowly being addressed. But I will not let them take comics and gaming away from my kids. I will teach my daughters to be strong in the face of it and my son not to be part of it. And both to stand up and call it out when they see it.

    I saw a lot of these posters today. http://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/About/Harassment-Policy/

    I saw a lot good and positive today. A lot of people in Nerd and Geek Nirvana and no judgement whatsoever. I don’t have a problem being a part of that.

  69. Fabius Maximus says:

    ExPat

    Under-reporting, you are clutching at straws.

    The numbers are 35% GOP base, 35% Dem Base and the fight is for the 30% middle. I can see Hillary breaking the 60% barrier on the back of this.

  70. Njescapee says:

    Flee, aren’t you
    Overdramatizing a bit. I haven’t heard of
    Many reported
    Hate crimes being committed against Indians vs all the violence committed against our

    Men and women in blue. Just saying.

  71. 3b says:

    Could someone tell me what happened here on the blog in the last 24 hours or so? Trying to figure out who and what started the break down. In all the years I have never seen grim so agitated!

  72. Flee – I live in Boston. I know that any vote against Hillary is worthless in either of our states. I’m voting for her, but only for the reason that I fear her death squads that will be dispatched should she win. Why should I risk my family’s welfare for a vote that doesn’t matter? Voting Republican in Boston is worse than being born in India.

    And, you are surprised that someone from NJ would support Clinton?

  73. BTW, I’ve been a registered Democrat all my life. I know on which side my bread is buttered.

  74. Austan Goolsbee is a Rory.

  75. 3b says:

    The c word is a disgusting English word that unfortunately the irish picked up from their former English overlords. My irish born parents hated the word and it was never used in our house. And no irish bbc.co one person I know here uses that word.

  76. 3b says:

    That being said. I still don’t understand the problem? Is is that fab does not like it? I agree it’s an ugly word but if people choose to use it than that is their choice.

  77. Flee? says:

    Escapee, over-dramatization mainly to get a worst-case scenario risk. I never thought I’d have to even consider the possibility of worst-case scenario.

  78. Grim says:

    Dude didn’t make it 10 minutes.

  79. Mc Box says:

    Lol -you would be in jail!

  80. STEAMturd knows hyper incarceration makes hyper gentrification oh so much easier says:

    Cunt? Big deal! What the heck has happened in this country? We have lost the ability to laugh. God forbid someone put out a remake of Blazing Saddles today, he/she would probably be run out of the country. This PC movement has swung way too far. I certainly don’t support bullying, but taking a word like cunt and disregarding the context in which it is used is really weak. It’s like removing the word nigger from Twain. You don’t erase history by making believe it never happened. We have become too soft. What every happened to sticks and stones? We joke about lots of things here and in the old days, we even got together in person and no one felt threatened. And if someone has an issue with Grim’s moderation, go get your own blog. No one forces you to read or post here. If you don’t like it. Post your opinion/complaint and move on. It’s the moving on, where too many here struggle. Ask yourself this. How coddled were you?

  81. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPBp6DOwgU

    God forbid someone put out a remake of Blazing Saddles today, he/she would probably be run out of the country.

  82. Holy crap, do I miss the late 70’s/early 80’s, back when I did my best cunt grabbin’ and was able to tell everyone about it. That was back when “everybody” was six guys and phone calls cost somewhere between 10 cents and a buck.

  83. What Stu said.

    Cunt? Big deal! What the heck has happened in this country? We have lost the ability to laugh. God forbid someone put out a remake of Blazing Saddles today, he/she would probably be run out of the country. This PC movement has swung way too far. I certainly don’t support bullying, but taking a word like cunt and disregarding the context in which it is used is really weak. It’s like removing the word nigger from Twain. You don’t erase history by making believe it never happened. We have become too soft. What every happened to sticks and stones? We joke about lots of things here and in the old days, we even got together in person and no one felt threatened. And if someone has an issue with Grim’s moderation, go get your own blog. No one forces you to read or post here. If you don’t like it. Post your opinion/complaint and move on. It’s the moving on, where too many here struggle. Ask yourself this. How coddled were you?

  84. Fabius Maximus says:

    Stu,

    What Happened?, we’ve moved on from Howard Stern and the Wack Pack. Even Howard retired the R word. We now have Wendy the slow adult. Not Great but a step in the right directions.
    We’ve moved on from the need for the 19th and 13th amendments. Sayreville football, can no longer haze the freshmen. The list goes on and on.

    Could Blazing Saddles be made today?, yes it could, but it needs a subtle hand. Tarantino showed us that in Django Unchained.

  85. No One says:

    Remember the minor Genesis hit “Illegal Alien”? Many stations ban it now, and current pc police say watching the video is a racist thought crime. https://youtu.be/_61hzuGGJX0

  86. Fabius Maximus says:

    Pence, unaccounted for, last seen under a bus The Donald just drove over him.

    Trump more composed, The base will love him, but didn’t move the needle.

    Every time I saw him holding the mic, i though he was about to break into a rendition of “I believe I can Fly!”

  87. “See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup
    Yeah buddy that’s his own hair
    That little faggot got his own jet airplane
    That little faggot he’s a millionaire.”

    Discuss.

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