Pay Up Sucker

From Slate:

Princeton Pays Up

When Princeton University announced it had settled litigation with area homeowners who had argued it is a profit-making institution in order to challenge its exemption from property taxes, it appeared to be paying millions of dollars to clear long-lingering uncertainty.

But the agreement, announced Oct. 14, leaves key legal issues unresolved in New Jersey. Although the university did not admit its currently exempt property should be taxed, a court did not affirm its tax exemptions, either.

That could foreshadow additional challenges to research universities in the state—challenges many think could be copied elsewhere in the country as taxpayers or revenue-strapped municipalities search for sources of cash. And the lawyer who filed the Princeton case says the homeowners he represented could bring another lawsuit in six years.

Within New Jersey, a key development in the case took leverage from Princeton University. A judge ruled that the burden of proof for tax-exempt status was on Princeton University, meaning it would have been required to prove itself qualified for property tax exemptions it was already receiving. That’s a major difference from the homeowners bringing the suit having to prove that Princeton did not deserve tax breaks. It’s also a potentially slow and expensive process for the university.

On a larger scale, it’s not yet clear whether challenges to college and university tax exemptions will become common outside of New Jersey, although politicians have eyed the possibility in several states. But the Princeton settlement plainly fits into an era in which college and university finances, tax exemptions, and operations are challenged from all sides.

The settlement comes more than five years after several residents sued Princeton over its tax-exempt status. Like other nonprofit institutions, Princeton is exempt from paying property taxes on much of its property. It does, however, pay taxes on some commercial properties that don’t qualify for exemption—like a movie theater it owns—and on others it voluntarily keeps on the tax rolls, like graduate student housing. It also makes voluntary contributions to the local municipal government.

Princeton University says it is the largest property taxpayer in the Borough of Princeton municipality, with an $11.1 million property tax bill. Residents, however, argued that they have had to pay more in taxes to compensate for money the university should be paying on exempt property. The lawyer representing them has said that Princeton’s tax bill would be in the $30 million to 40 million range if it paid taxes on all of its property.

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105 Responses to Pay Up Sucker

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. nwnj3 says:

    What story is the media going to echo today to distract from the latest news of the Clinton crime syndicate? No mention at all of the extortion of Bill from the corporations or fake university he shook down?

    They’ll need some new fodder to fill up the front page. Maybe Trump kicks his dog? Looks like they’re going to rerun last week’s tripe instead.

  3. Fast Eddie says:

    Nwnj3,

    I’m on the train, was just thinking the same thing. It’s astonishing how diabolical these people are and how anything they do is simply dismissed.

  4. nwnj3 says:

    Not a peep about the fake university Bill was the “honorary chancellor” which trapped countless people in mountains of debt, or the $18M he extorted. No mention at all of the VIP treatment many of the benefactors were afforded by the State Department.

    That’s massive corruption and abuse of power again and yet the press trudges out some haggard who says that Trump made a pass at her a few decades ago(with no supporting facts). It’s outright contemptible the way this election is being covered.

  5. grim says:

    Trumps comment about appointing a special prosecutor and putting Clinton in jail isn’t tyranny or fascism, it’s just common decency and upholding the law.

    The Clintons are clearly worse than even the worst corporate greedsters.

  6. grim says:

    Given this new information, is it any surprise that Clinton kept a private email server?

    I would too if I was planning to commit crimes of this magnitude.

    Any surprise that so many emails were preemptively deleted with a tool that would render them completely unrecoverable?

  7. chicagofinance says:

    Steamturd thinking about the remains of Hillary’s umbilical stump says:
    October 27, 2016 at 9:53 pm
    You know. I guessed it would be Amish Paradise before I clicked it. Mainly because I couldn’t think of anything Depeche Mode sang that was Amish related.
    https://youtu.be/snILjFUkk_A?t=1m58s

  8. nwnj3 says:

    The Clinton’s crimes are on a completely different scale than Trumps piggishness and tax dodging. Secondly, it’s clear that the Clinton’s view the average patriotic citizen as inconvenient obstructions to their global enrichment scheme. They hold contempt for the middle class and would like to see them destroyed or in the case of the uneducated they view them as a captive vote only and would like to trap them in poverty forever while expanding their ranks. Anything detestable about Trump pales against the Clinton’s when you look at their true motives.

  9. Comrade Nom Deplorable, just waiting on the Zombie Apocalypse. says:

    A certain Dem member of Congress speaking at a labor conference referred to the death of Scalia as “divine intervention” and a “Hail Mary.”

    Later, he noted the ages of justices said we’d get more SCOTUS appointments “with help from above”

  10. lost says:

    I thought anything sent electronically can be recovered? Is it really possible to permanently delete something sent over the internet?

    What I don’t get, is the fact that these so called whistle blowers like wiki leaks can’t find one piece of solid evidence to take down any corrupt politician from either side of the aisle. I want to see these crooks go to jail.

    grim says:
    October 28, 2016 at 8:31 am
    Given this new information, is it any surprise that Clinton kept a private email server?

    I would too if I was planning to commit crimes of this magnitude.

    Any surprise that so many emails were preemptively deleted with a tool that would render them completely unrecoverable?

  11. Comrade Nom Deplorable, just waiting on the Zombie Apocalypse. says:

    Now he’s attacking the Cadillac Tax

    And blaming health plan rate increases on Republicans.

  12. Comrade Nom Deplorable, just waiting on the Zombie Apocalypse. says:

    Annnnd, he finishes up by accusing Trump of treason.

  13. Ottoman says:

    That’s capitalism.

    grim says:
    October 28, 2016 at 8:28 am
    Trumps comment about appointing a special prosecutor and putting Clinton in jail isn’t tyranny or fascism, it’s just common decency and upholding the law.

    The Clintons are clearly worse than even the worst corporate greedsters.

  14. Ottoman says:

    Again, nothing more than capitalism

    nwnj3 says:
    October 28, 2016 at 8:44 am
    The Clinton’s crimes are on a completely different scale than Trumps piggishness and tax dodging. Secondly, it’s clear that the Clinton’s view the average patriotic citizen as inconvenient obstructions to their global enrichment scheme. They hold contempt for the middle class and would like to see them destroyed or in the case of the uneducated they view them as a captive vote only and would like to trap them in poverty forever while expanding their ranks. Anything detestable about Trump pales against the Clinton’s when you look at their true motives.

  15. Ottoman says:

    So it’s not a good thing Scalia’s frolicking around heaven with his lord and savior? Why do you hate Christians?

    Comrade Nom Deplorable, just waiting on the Zombie Apocalypse. says:
    October 28, 2016 at 8:49 am
    A certain Dem member of Congress speaking at a labor conference referred to the death of Scalia as “divine intervention” and a “Hail Mary.”

    Later, he noted the ages of justices said we’d get more SCOTUS appointments “with help from above”

  16. Ottoman says:

    Well if it weren’t for republicans we’d have single payer, so yeah.

    Comrade Nom Deplorable, just waiting on the Zombie Apocalypse. says:
    October 28, 2016 at 8:54 am
    Now he’s attacking the Cadillac Tax

    And blaming health plan rate increases on Republicans.

  17. nwnj3 says:

    Wrong, it’s exploitation of the vulnerable, one of the most vile transgressions a politician(or human for that matter) is capable of.

    Ottoman says:
    October 28, 2016 at 9:48 am

    Again, nothing more than capitalism

  18. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    I used to believe single payer was the solution. Really. Now I’m fairly certain it’s not. Not as long as the health care is being provided by corporations which fully embrace the lobbyist model. Perhaps if the government ran the hospitals themselves. But then again, I look at the VA model and say…maybe not. I truly believe we need less government collection and redistribution and simply better government oversight and enforcement. Capitalism is fine as long as excesses are policed by the government. But how can they ever be when the government behaves like a capo and provides protection only for those willing to pay for it (through campaign finance contributions and lobbying dollars). Is it any wonder that after the financial crisis, too big to fail as become too bigger than ever to be allowed to fail. Use the recent Wells Fargo fiasco as a perfect example. The cheerleaders on the left and right can argue about guns and abortions till their blue (or red I suppose) in the face. But these issues are about as important to the future of our country as a pimple on Lost’s backside. Guns and abortions won’t really matter when we are all standing around the trashcan fire.

  19. lost says:

    “Just about everyone agrees that the U.S. has huge infrastructure needs. The consensus is so broad that there’s hope that regardless of who wins the election, we may finally get a bill out of Washington that addresses it. The problem is that 2017 appears to be the worst time in a generation for an infrastructure bill.

    As with most things pertaining to construction these days, the challenge begins with labor. On Hillary Clinton’s campaign website, she pledges that in her first 100 days she’d seek an infrastructure bill that would create “tens of thousands of jobs.” This would be a disaster.

    First of all, there aren’t enough workers to accommodate that vision. In September, there were the fewest number of unemployed construction workers for any September going back to the year 2000. The added demand brought about by a large federal infrastructure bill would create a construction labor shortage more acute than we’ve seen in decades.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-28/an-infrastructure-bill-great-idea-7-years-too-late

  20. lost says:

    cont.

    “Second, these federal plans aren’t occurring in a vacuum. Many states and local governments have their own infrastructure measures on the ballot next month. If many pass, that will create demand for untold thousands of construction workers. Here in Atlanta, where the construction of Mercedes-Benz Stadium and SunTrust Park is wrapping up, builders have been grappling with the crowding out caused by those two mega-projects for a while, raising construction costs for the industry as a whole. And logistically, how would projects be prioritized when federal, state and local governments are all competing for resources?

    Third, because of elevated costs brought about by a tight construction labor market and continued growth from the housing sector, money won’t go as far as it would in a softer market. Today, $275 billion of infrastructure spending might buy only 70 percent of what it would have in the aftermath of the great recession. Infrastructure spending would have been a terrific idea in 2009. But that window is gone. Construction wage growth is approaching levels unseen in decades.”

  21. lost says:

    Hope all the debt hawks calling for austerity 7 years ago learn a thing or two from their mistake.

  22. Maybe not by the all the voters. First, I was thinking there are some Republican voters who say they aren’t voting for Trump, but they’re probably still watching Fox News every night, so they aren’t missing this. At the other end of the spectrum are the presumably tech-savvy and burned Sanders voters who can’t be missing it either. I have an 18 year old nephew who is a freshman attending UMD and he is just distraught as to what to do with his very first vote. I’m guessing that a lot of kids like him will realize that there is only one way to vote, here and now that is, against corruption.

    I’m on the train, was just thinking the same thing. It’s astonishing how diabolical these people are and how anything they do is simply dismissed.

  23. Not SteammyRayTurd says:

    Steamy,

    Single payer’s big plus is that reduces the overhead cost vs present system multiple billing and active cheating of those processes.

    Government operated is not the issue. The underlying issue is what are you asking the entity to do. About the VA, I know more than I wish.

    One side the Veteran’s Benefit Administration (this is the one that handles claims) should be merged into the Social Security Administration. SSA has its act together, web based access and offices everywhere. The VBA is just useless, redundant, and horrible at its job.

    The Veterans Health Administration is the side that handles hospitals. Big issue is that is not just a health system, it’s a gigantic social services agency. A large percentage of the support employees (kitchen, stocking, warehouse, housekeeping, clerical, telephone operators) are veterans themselves in different types of rehab/therapeutic employment. One classification is (CWT) Compensated Work Therapy – they are considered patients not employees, so you have substance abuse/criminal/educational rehab therapies as employees. You can just see the possibilities for screw ups. When you have criminal minded housekeeping – that’s doing cleaning, just not cleaning the rooms, but cleaning anything they find. Or you have drunk or stoned staffed on duty. Within a regular hospital is not tolerated, within the VA you live with it.

    Another is politics – under W Bush – the telephone operators were contractors, with Obama they hired blind people. They do a great job, but there was a painful learning curve and there are delays in the emergency pages – as they have to use aid computers to read out loud and place phone calls.

    So if you want a performing hospital – the VA can do it. If you want to operate a rehab center – the VA can do it. But if you want to operate a performing hospital with rehab center staffed, no one can do it.

  24. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “A large percentage of the support employees (kitchen, stocking, warehouse, housekeeping, clerical, telephone operators) are veterans themselves in different types of rehab/therapeutic employment.”

    Why?

  25. Not SteammyRayTurd says:

    Because, no one will hire them in a regular job or they can’t find rehab opportunities.

    So it’s part of the VA culture. Is like the cops with the blue wall of silence. It’s like the Marine’s – will leave no one behind thing. There is a very strong VA takes care of Vets mentality, regardless of issues. It’s actually quite admirably and difficult to civilians/non-vets to get.

    But the culture of “it” affects the performance of the job it does, whether a hospital or an office. This is why no politician can’t deal with it.

  26. I think it works kind of like this: If you just don’t have a viable way to keep your wife out of Nordstrom’s, wouldn’t you rather her be and employee there instead of a shopper paying full boat retail?

    “A large percentage of the support employees (kitchen, stocking, warehouse, housekeeping, clerical, telephone operators) are veterans themselves in different types of rehab/therapeutic employment.”

    Why?

  27. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Now for something that really matters.

    Ben…gonna order that sandwich today as I’m headed back to CHOP around 2pm today. What condiments do I add to achieve your recently discussed sandwich nirvana? Be careful here. :P

    These are the options according to Grubhub. Of course, I’ll just call in the order to save on any fees. Captain Cheapo in the hizay!

    Would you like to add condiments?

    Optional – Choose as many as you like.
    Add Lettuce
    Add Tomato
    Add Onion
    Add Pickles
    Add Mayo
    Add Oil
    Add Salt
    Add Pepper
    Add Oregano
    Add Hot Seeds
    Add Cherry Peppers +$0.25
    Add Long Hots +$1.50
    Add Roasted Peppers +$0.50
    Add Sweet Peppers +$0.25
    Add Broccoli Rabe +$0.50
    Add Bacon +$1.00
    Add Mustard
    Add Spicy Mustard
    Add Balsamic
    Add Vinegar
    Add Horse Radish
    Add Ranch
    Add Ketchup
    Add Hot Oil

  28. At 10PM tonight all tolls on the MA turnpike are un-manned. If you don’t have a transponder you’ll get a bill in the mail when they photograph your license plate. I’m predicting a rise in thefts of license plates.

  29. ^^^^Btw, un-manned as in un-manned all day, every day, from now on.

  30. And supposedly all the tolls themselves will be completely removed in one month. Overhead in-lane scanners, I guess?

  31. Nom should enjoy this. The state of MA even paid some CGI firm or game maker create a vid of traffic management and toll booth demolition. I like how the cars realistically cut you off:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrMTeekMhn8

  32. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “But the culture of “it” affects the performance of the job it does, whether a hospital or an office. This is why no politician can’t deal with it.”

    So what will be the culture of single payer, government provided healthcare? Will it be a debacle like the Port Authority or New Jersey Transit? Or a debacle like ACA? Quite honestly, it’s hard to think of any efficient government programs whatsoever. Can you think of any?

  33. You’ve been to your local DMV, right?

    So what will be the culture of single payer, government provided healthcare?

  34. Not SteamyRayTurd says:

    Are we talking DMV under McGreevey (after fix) or the Fat Bastard?

    Single Payer? Ask your physician which one he likes better filing claims to Medicare vs United Health or any big insurance company? and which one pays straight up without trying wasting his time.

  35. Not SteamyRayTurd says:

    Left alone without political interference or social work duties and with the goal of excellence, you get the likes of National Institute of Health, CDC & P and USAMRIID.

  36. I’ve been through the hoops of getting a company certified for Medicare payments and god is it awful, especially if you need to be set up to receive medicare reimbursement from multiple states. But once set up, Medicare pays wicked fast. I don’t know how widespread this is, but there are a few doctors in MA setting up shop as general practitioners, no insurance taken. The idea is you buy yourself a catastrophic policy with a high deductible, maybe $10K and you pay for everything else, cash on the barrel head. The doctors who are doing this are enjoying their profession a lot more and so are their patients because of the ease of getting appointments and the whole practice being directed at providing care instead of wrangling insurance payments, and of course the prices are lower. I think it was about a dozen years ago that I heard someone say they had a South African talk about their health care system. IIRC, it went like this: “When we get sick, I just go to my doctor. He charges me, but it isn’t that much.” Novel concept, huh?

  37. $10K deductible, to be clear.

  38. My knowledge of the NJ DMV ends in the mid-90’s, so before either.

    Are we talking DMV under McGreevey (after fix) or the Fat Bastard?

  39. Juice Box says:

    ROFL

    “Poor innocent Chelsea. Bill and Hillary must never have told her what business they’re in. If she had known, she would never have hired a blue-chip law firm to sweep through the hallways of the Clinton Foundation searching for conflicts of interest. Instead of questioning Mr. Band’s compensation, she would have pleaded with him never to reveal the particulars of his job in writing.”

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/grifters-in-chief-1477610771

  40. HEHEHE says:

    “So what will be the culture of single payer, government provided healthcare? Will it be a debacle like the Port Authority or New Jersey Transit? Or a debacle like ACA? Quite honestly, it’s hard to think of any efficient government programs whatsoever. Can you think of any?”

    It will probably be like Medicaid/Medicare with more limited choices and the similar amounts of fraud.

    I am normally for free market solutions but our healthcare system is such a screwed up public/private mess I don’t see another solution than going single payer. The insurance and pharmaceutical companies give too much money to Congress to remove their power and there’s too many senior votes tied to Medicare to upset that apple cart.

  41. HEHEHE says:

    I love that Doug Band email where he lays out “all the money” he’s brought in for Bill Clinton and Chelsea needs to get off his back. Unbelievably shameless amount of corruption.

  42. Does anybody find it interesting that Hillary introduced Mrs. O at the rally yesterday?

  43. Bloomberg radio reported that dugout seats at Wrigley can be had for $150K a pair and that cover charges at some sports bars are $300, but include some eats.

  44. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Juice. I’ve been talking about the conflict of interest the Clinton Foundation has represented to everyone who would listen since Bill took office. I was especially vocal when Hillary used the good people of New York and the confrontational Harlem office to house the Foundation ahead of Hillary’s Senate run. Then I was even louder during her Secretary of State Appointment. There’s just too much smoke there. And you wonder why everyone finds her dishonest? Hopefully, she can be somewhat as shrewd in the White House as she has been for her personal gain.

  45. Grab them by the puzzy (the good one) says:

    @chrislhayes

    Getting acquitted for your nationally televised armed takeover of Federal property is some pretty impressive defense team work!

  46. HEHEHE says:

    ” Hopefully, she can be somewhat as shrewd in the White House as she has been for her personal gain.”

    Sadly for that couple it’s all about their personal gain.

  47. McBox says:

    FBI reopening email case against Clinton?

  48. nwnj3 says:

    You have Band on Bill’s side and Sheryl Mills on Hillary’s side. Both doing the dirty work for their bosses but also robbing and stealing at every turn. Apparently behind even their backs at times. No honor among thieves.

  49. nwnj3 says:

    And yet I take a look at a major media side and the headline is that Trump’s a narcissist. So what, is that an election issue now? Maybe to the moron segment that’s growing rapidly.

  50. Let’s see them keep that out of the NYT and CNN.

    FBI reopening email case against Clinton?

  51. I bet Hillary already has Robby Mook bent over a railing, bare ass up and ready to get beaten. It wasn’t his fault, but he looks like he would be up for it.

  52. If you want to be cynical, Clinton knows she is going to lose and they’re going to use this to postpone the election.

  53. “In previous congressional testimony, I referred to the fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had completed its investigation of former Secretary Clinton’s personal email server. Due to recent developments, I am writing to supplement my previous testimony,” Comey wrote.

    “In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation. I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation,” he added.

    “Although the FBI cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be signifcant, and I cannot predict how long it will take us to complete this additional work, I believe it is important to update your Committees about our efforts in light of my previous testimony,” Comey concluded.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/fbi-probing-new-clinton-emails.html

  54. D-FENS says:

    Next leak will lead to arrest of Hillary Clinton – Assange

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB9u9dSQVkc

  55. To be really cynical, the FBI is running interference to bury the Clinton Foundation emails.

  56. If you have iHeartRadio and can find Rush Limbaugh live, he is saying exactly this right this minute. He thinks after 4-5 days he’ll say, “Nothing to see here! It’s all good”, just to keep everyone off the Clinton Crime Family Foundation. He just mentioned that as the “cynical” view too. LOL

    To be really cynical, the FBI is running interference to bury the Clinton Foundation emails.

  57. McBox says:

    Expat – Barry had an email server too.

  58. Yeah, but that was just for p0rn. Executive privilege. Seriously, did he have his own server or just a pseudonym account outside the White House? I would love to know his account name and domain. MuslimBarry@IamTheKing.com ?

    Expat – Barry had an email server too.

  59. To be more cynical, she needs another 4 day nap because of her Parkinsons, so this is how she gets it.

  60. Juice Box says:

    The geriatrics that watch CNN must be having a stroke right now, considering the home page right now.

  61. D-FENS says:

    14 million people have already cast ballots in swing states. News media is comfortable with reporting on these stories finally now that people can’t change their votes.

  62. Juice Box says:

    Krugman’s panties are riding up.

    Paul Krugman (NY Times) on Twitter: If we don’t hear more from Comey, we just have to conclude that he was trying to swing election. And *that* should be the story.

  63. Not Juicy Box says:

    I guarantee you that the old Clinton’s FBI director Louis Freeh had a talk with present FBI Director Comey about how to handle a “Clinton”.

    Is well known that Freeh, a North Bergen, Hudson County, NJ boy, which by definition means you know how to handle yourself in the cesspool of ethically challenged crooks, was always very careful and kept meticulous records on his dealings with Bubba because he did not want Bubba’s stink on him.

  64. I wonder if Hillary’s inner circle has safe spaces.

  65. 1987 Condo says:

    Was it a master stroke for Comey originally to appear in the pocket of Clinton with his initial report, so when he follows with this it has more credibility?

  66. HEHEHE says:

    “In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation”

    What would they be investigating that is unrelated that would pop up with Clinton emails?

    The only thing I can think of is they are investigating 1) the Foundation or 2) the DNC and other hacking.

    I would guess the second. Suppose they hand over the DNC servers to the FBI and Hillary was sending classified docs to her DNC pen-pals.

  67. Clinton on stage giving speech but, as my grandfather used to say, she has a puss on. Not one you would want to grab, either.

  68. HEHEHE says:

    If you really want to be cynical maybe it’s Comey wanting a Federal Judgeship or something comparable under a Clinton administration.

  69. grim says:

    What would they be investigating that is unrelated that would pop up with Clinton emails?

    CYA terminology, no?

  70. Maybe some burned Sanders supporters inside the bureau who have their hands on some good stuff?

  71. It’s interesting how Fox is carrying Clinton’s speech and the MSM (including Bloomberg) is talking over it. So she has nothing to say about this matter and has instructed her channels what to say.

  72. I think Fox is in the tank for Clinton too. None of the other news networks are letting the audio of her speech out, they are talking over it. On Fox, they are showing Clinton’s speech full screen which is all Trump hates women…Trump wants to take women’s health care away…Trump want to grab your puss…etc.

  73. D-FENS says:

    So nice of Director Comey to send a letter for Hillary’s birthday.

  74. D-FENS says:

    NYTimes reports more emails were discovered as a result of the Weiner investigation.

  75. HEHEHE says:

    “CYA terminology, no?”

    Grim it could well be a third party had access to stuff and told Comey you either do something with this or I am going public.

  76. D-FENS says:

    Internet is gonna blow up with Weiner jokes tonight

  77. HEHEHE says:

    Wow, didn’t see the Weiner angle coming! That’s amazing. It would be too much if he was the one who brought down the Clinton’s. TFF!!!

  78. HEHEHE says:

    The comments to that article are quite hilarious. I did not realize how many Clinton Kool-Aid drinkers there are in this country. Or could be all the paid internet moles.

  79. No One says:

    Uh oh, Huma forgot to take a sledgehammer to an old blackberry.
    If only both Hillary and Trump could lose.

  80. Ben says:

    Sorry for the late reply. The answer is, you add nothing. haha.

  81. Juice Box says:

    LOL the WEINER Strikes again!

    Those new emails were discovered during an FBI investigation in which the devices of former Congressman Anthony Weiner and Clinton aide Huma Abedin were seized, NBC News confirmed. The New York Times first reported the news.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/fbi-probing-new-clinton-emails.html

  82. Anon E. Moose, saying 'Come back, JJ' says:

    NotRight in the Head [10:56];

    Single Payer? Ask your physician which one he likes better filing claims to Medicare vs United Health or any big insurance company? and which one pays straight up without trying wasting his time.

    Did you ever stop for a moment to ask if perhaps that’s why there’s so much Medicare fraud? Chop shops moving old people through as if on a conveyor belt and hitting up the gubmn’t for any procedure line item they can possibly imagine?

  83. Juice Box says:

    “federal official” tells NYT the newly discovered emails pertinent to Clinton case number “in the thousands.”

  84. grim says:

    I wonder if Weiner did it to f&ck them all over.

  85. grim says:

    Or maybe he brokered a plea deal

  86. McBox says:

    Isn’t what weiner is aledged to have sexted underaged girls a State Crime not a federal one?

  87. Anon E. Moose, saying 'Come back, JJ' says:

    I wonder if Weiner did it to f&ck them all over.

    That’s the danger (, Carlos Danger) when you keep a loose cannon around and have to at long last let them go at an inconvenient time.

    I suppose Hill might have preferred to have Weiner inside the tent pissing out…

    This stuff really writes itself, folks.

  88. HEHEHE says:

    Hell hath no fury like a Weiner-man scorned

  89. HEHEHE says:

    Weiner gets a sex offender conviction he says goodbye to his kid in the divorce. Maybe he bury’s Huma and gets the kid?

  90. Coast-to-coast sexting? Probably brings in the feds.

    Isn’t what weiner is aledged to have sexted underaged girls a State Crime not a federal one?

  91. Juice Box says:

    “SchlongerTogether”!!!

  92. Ok, here’s a top of the tree tinfoil hat theory: TBTB(Illuminati, not federal) have realized that at this point there will be so much more unrest with a “HER” presidency that they have switched gears and figure Trump is less trouble. Barbra Streisand and Cher might poop themselves, but they aren’t going to be leading any street gangs. The same goes for Blankfein and Dimon.

  93. Is that part of this new rape culture that I hear about? Where’s my safe space?

    “SchlongerTogether”!!!

  94. Juice Box says:

    here is the whole collection.

    https://sli.mg/a/5Y3jbR

  95. Steamturd, obsessed with Cankles way more than Wieners. says:

    What is it with Wieners and the Clintons? Regardless of whether it is sexted or replaced by a cigar, Wieners keep taking them down. I guess this answers the question of Hillary’s wiener envy. I do congratulate Hillary. She finally got some Wiener.

  96. D-FENS says:

    Weiner is gonna get whacked.

  97. That’s stellar. Thanks.

    here is the whole collection.

    https://sli.mg/a/5Y3jbR

  98. Fabius Maximus says:

    Expat,

    “they’re going to use this to postpone the election.”

    I can take the Clutching at Straws, but please read up on Election Law. Nothing is stopping the election. It’s on final approach, and nothing will stop Nov 8th.

  99. What part of Article 2, Section 7 are we misunderstanding?

    I can take the Clutching at Straws, but please read up on Election Law. Nothing is stopping the election. It’s on final approach, and nothing will stop Nov 8th.

  100. Fabius Maximus says:

    ExPat,

    “What part of Article 2, Section 7 are we misunderstanding?”

    You want to take a Mulligan on that one?

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