July home sales beat expectations

From CNBC:

Case-Shiller home price index rises 5.9%, beating expectations

The S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller home price index rose 5.9 percent in July compared a year ago, better than the 5.7 percent expected by economists polled by Reuters.

The rise was also higher than June’s 5.8 percent increase.

David Blitzer, managing director and chairman of the index committee at S&P Dow Jones Indices, said consumers were the key driver to the current economic expansion.

Blitzer said recent gains in home prices have largely come from the Pacific Northwest. Seasonally adjusted, 12 of the 20 cities in the composite reported price increases in July.

Growth in the 20-city composite groups was up 5.8 percent, compared with June’s 5.6 percent rise.

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124 Responses to July home sales beat expectations

  1. Mike says:

    Good Morning New Jersey

  2. JJ fanboy says:

    And when you can no longer deduct your state and local
    Taxes and mortgage interest, prices will really take off

  3. D-FENS says:

    My understanding is that you will be able to deduct your mortgage interest under the new plan…just not property taxes and state income taxes.

  4. Grim says:

    Strongly suspect MID is going to get capped.

  5. Grim says:

    Glad I own a corporation that is now turning profitable.

  6. D-FENS says:

    Wilbur Ross hits Bombadier with 220% tariff. The Canadian government is subsidizing manufacturing.

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/09/26/us-slaps-220-percent-duty-on-canadas-bombardier-jets.html

  7. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Is that a pumpkin in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

  8. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Can anyone suggest an S&P 500 Industrial sector stock that will go down in the next two weeks?

  9. The Original NJ ExPat says:
  10. leftwing says:

    From yesterday:

    Fabs, cherry picking to obfuscate the point. A favorite “liberal” past time.

    US *income tax* rates are progressive. If you would like to argue that the entire US tax system is regressive so be it. I’ll grant you sales taxes, gas taxes, etc are regressive.

    I am not here to debate the entire tax structure. However, if you want progressive sales taxes (the wealthy pay a higher percent for their sales tax than the poor) then put it to a popular vote and see how it does, lol.

    If you truly feel US rates are regressive then your head must be popping over your social democrat European brothers and their 20%+ value added taxes……

    Carried interest is a red herring. Why not pick on other protected classes, like the MID? Better yet, any time your ilk want to eliminate every deduction and credit for everybody and go to a straight flat tax for the entire populace to eliminate all loopholes and make the system “fair” for everyone I’m all for it. Now that would actually likely pass a popular vote.

  11. leftwing says:

    From yesterday:

    Fabs, cherry picking to obscure the point. A favorite “liberal” past time.

    US *income tax* rates are progressive. If you would like to argue that the entire US tax system is regressive so be it. I’ll grant you sales taxes, gas taxes, etc are regressive.

    I am not here to debate the entire tax structure. However, if you want progressive sales taxes (the wealthy pay a higher percent for their sales tax than the poor) then put it to a popular vote and see how it does, lol.

    If you truly feel US rates are regressive then your head must be popping over your social democrat European brothers and their 20%+ value added taxes……

    Carried interest is a red herring. Why not pick on other protected classes, like the MID? Better yet, any time your ilk want to eliminate every deduction and credit for everybody and go to a straight flat tax for the entire populace to eliminate all loopholes and make the system “fair” for everyone I’m all for it. Now that would actually likely pass a popular vote.

    How about we join hands and propose that together? Can even play the national anthem in the background. Yeah, I thought not….If you “liberals” give up your ability to control the dole, you got nuttin’.

  12. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Today will be a great day!

    Poll:
    Does Pumps drink coffee in the car on his way to work?

  13. Mike says:

    not being able to deduct property taxes? that will suck moose balls

  14. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    NJ will change it’s name from “The Garden State” to the “Suck Moose Balls State”.

  15. Libturd sporting Tiger Wood says:

    If you thought the libs in Jersey hated Trump already. Just wait until April 15th.

    “not being able to deduct property taxes? that will suck moose balls”

  16. D-FENS says:

    Don’t forget that the proposal includes a reduction in the rates…and increase in the standard deduction.

    Mike says:
    September 27, 2017 at 8:55 am
    not being able to deduct property taxes? that will suck moose balls

  17. D-FENS says:

    You won’t have the state take $$ from you…then have to beg the feds for it back.

    It puts pressure on local municipalities and states to knock off the tax increases in the future.

  18. JJ fanboy says:

    D Fens

    Good luck with that. I doubt municipalities will ever cut costs

  19. D-FENS says:

    People running municipalities will likely never change their behavior. Correct.

    But those people may find they won’t be running those municipalities any longer if they don’t change their behavior.

    They won’t go quietly either.

  20. Phoenix says:

    Mike,
    Good thing there are not any moose in NJ.
    Maybe there are some in a zoo in NJ.
    The line to get in to that zoo is going to be very long.
    Get your tickets now pre-order so you can get your sucking done early.
    Sloppy seconds on moose balls not so good. Moose can only take so much.
    There is a Moose on this forum at times. Maybe that moose can give some advise…

  21. leftwing says:

    Tax proposal just released per cnbc. Highlights generally as reported.

    SALT out, standard deduction doubled, personal rates condensed to three.

  22. D-FENS says:

    CNBC article does not mention mortgage interest deduction at all.

  23. JCer says:

    Why is carried interest a red herring, despite being a small over all mount of money the idea that you have two classes of earned income is nuts. Income that is earned should be taxed as income, on what basis should a management fee not be taxed as income, because it is tied to result? So is my job, gains are taxed differently than earned income because of the inherent mobility of capital, in general hedge funds are a destructive force and should not be afforded advantages under the tax code. It isn’t necessarily substantive but it is something that can and should be removed.

  24. D-FENS says:

    child tax credit “substantially increased”

  25. exjersey says:

    Thanks Ivanka

  26. exjersey says:

    Moore’s win will be embarrassing for Trump, who had endorsed Strange and appeared with him in a Huntsville rally on Friday. There, Trump expressed ardent support for the man he called “Big Luther” but left plenty of wiggle room as he mused on stage that perhaps he had made a mistake by endorsing Strange. Trump also called Moore a good man and pledged to campaign for him if he won the primary.

  27. No One says:

    Grim,
    Whether or not the “pass through business” tax reduction to 25% being discussed 1)actually happens and 2) actually applies to my industry would make a huge difference in my taxation.
    Currently I get hit with 39.6% federal, plus another 3.8% self-employment tax, plus NJ’s 8.97% income tax. So the effective tax rate is 47% for most of my income. And there are no loopholes around this, contrary to lefty imaginations fed by that jackass Buffett. Who knows how the future pass through tax would work but my guess is that it could be 25% + 3.8%+ 8.97% = 38%. Far from a low tax rate, but 38% would be lower than 47%. On the other hand if the passthrough doen’t apply to my partnership, and I just lose the deductibility of the state tax, my effective tax rate goes to 51% even before Murphy hikes NJ income tax.
    Here’s an interesting article about how these pass-throughs (sole proprietors, partnerships, etc) pay the highest taxes of while employing over 50% of the private sector workforce. Small businesses are really shackled by this.
    https://taxfoundation.org/overview-pass-through-businesses-united-states/

  28. D-FENS says:

    No. Nice try though… It was a win-win scenario. There’s no other way to spin it. It is likely Corker, who has now signaled he will resign…convinced him to do it.

    Both Strange and Moore campaigns competed over who loved Trump’s agenda more.

    Side note…Peyton Manning may run for Corker’s seat…

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/06/04/peyton-manning-spotted-with-president-trump-sen-bob-corker-on-a-golf-outing/?utm_term=.784ae47784d6

    exjersey says:
    September 27, 2017 at 10:40 am
    Moore’s win will be embarrassing for Trump, who had endorsed Strange and appeared with him in a Huntsville rally on Friday. There, Trump expressed ardent support for the man he called “Big Luther” but left plenty of wiggle room as he mused on stage that perhaps he had made a mistake by endorsing Strange. Trump also called Moore a good man and pledged to campaign for him if he won the primary.

  29. Phoenix says:

    Blue Ribbon Teacher
    Quote from yesterday.

    What is the driving force behind the spending-male or female?
    I tried doing what you suggested-lived modestly, small house, great town.
    I was “stifling” my ex as she was not happy. Tons of cash but house poor in her mind.
    New car every three-temporary happiness.
    Then we got her the house of her dreams-dumped tons of cash (no debt) for new kitchen, bathrooms, floors. So happy- but now in D court -blowing the rest of the cash on attorneys, child custody experts, etc. Our combined salary is way past what you listed.
    If I had spent more earlier would that have made a difference? Who knows?
    You save, you are cheap. You spend, you are wasteful.
    Can’t wait to have some judge tell me that I will be paying for my kid’s Harvard education while I am collecting the crumbs of Social Security as all of my child’s money has been wiped out by her mother. Plus the woman works in your field (educated and entitled union worker.)

    “What irks me is that most middle class couples do have the ability to make it without any assistance. A 2 income household combining for 90k can live modestly and bank away a ton of cash. Instead, they insist on bigger homes, more vacations, eating out nonstop, and getting a new phone every 3 months.
    “/i>

  30. Fast Eddie says:

    Do liberals actually know what they’re fighting for? I think I answered my own question. How can anyone fight for a cause when they have no purpose in their lives?

  31. leftwing says:

    Phoenix, you want someone to talk to or listen re: divorce let me know. I don’t profess to know everything but spent three very hands on years learning some ropes through experience….

  32. Phoenix says:

    lw,
    sure. Pm me.

  33. leftwing says:

    Jcer, carried interest is a red herring in the larger discussion because we could spend weeks going back and forth on every piece of the tax code that deals with non-W2 income. Don’t have the time or inclination.

    I would note your description is not entirely accurate. Those taking advantage of the carried interest (originally VCs) had ordinary income from the management fee (the 2% annually from the standard 2+20 structure).

    The 20% they received was both equity (a security) and upside (return only if there was a gain in the underlying equity value). Conceptually and structured as a capital gain, and historically taxed as such.

    Again, that construct got caught up in the politics of Romney’s run and his Bain interests as well as some abuse by hedgies using the structure. So, the citizenry is looking at changing the rules.

    My points are that (i) these anomalies exist throughout the tax structure to everyone’s benefit including for the working poor, professionals, and bazillionaires, (ii) there is nothing nefarious about them, they’re just there, and (iii) if the citizenry doesn’t like these exceptions/interpretations just change them.

    Which is what seems to be happening to both carried interest treatment and SALT.

  34. leftwing says:

    grim, can you connect me and phoenix somehow? give him my email or me his? thx

  35. Mike says:

    Phoenix there are plenty of moose in NJ I see them all the time
    at the Elks Lodges

  36. D-FENS says:

    Matt Drudge is no accountant. The headline today is retarded.

  37. Libturd sporting Tiger Wood says:

    I see moose tracks at a lot of ice cream parlors. Do they call them that anymore?

  38. exjersey says:

    10:59. If you really believed your own posts, then i’d like to thank your firm for hiring the mentally challenged.

  39. exjersey says:

    Cause ur a fawkin retard eddie

  40. abeiz says:

    “A 2 income household combining for 90k can live modestly and bank away a ton of cash.”

    I understand that everything is relative, but where in NJ do these numbers make sense?

  41. D-FENS says:

    Everywhere but NE NJ.

  42. Comrade Nom Deplume, Pumpkin Spice version. says:

    Here’s a modest proposal that kills two birds with one stone: Modify Section 103 of the Internal Revenue Code to require that the Commissioner of the IRS must certify that a state or municipality is conforming to Federal law and guidance. If the Commissioner does not certify that a state or municipality has complied, income from any future issuances of bonds will be deemed to not come within the Section 103(a) exclusion.

    This is less susceptible to court challenge because deductions or exclusions are a matter of legislative grace and must be viewed narrowly by the courts. The upshot is that it is much easier to take away a deduction or exclusion than it is to take away an entitlement. This attacks the sanctuary cities in a way that the Trump administration has so far failed to do. Further, it raises revenue from Wall Street and the “wealthy”, so it will give the Democrats paroxysms of agony and some of them, notably in red states that won’t be affected, will have to support it.

    There. Problem solved. You’re welcome.

  43. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Come on, Christie! Do something for this state, it will make up for all the prior mistakes. A chance to fix your legacy.

  44. Comrade Nom Deplume, Pumpkin Spice version. says:

    Pumps,

    What mistakes? Christie hasn’t really done anything of note.

  45. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bingo, you answered your own question.

    Comrade Nom Deplume, Pumpkin Spice version. says:
    September 27, 2017 at 1:57 pm
    Pumps,

    What mistakes? Christie hasn’t really done anything of note.

  46. D-FENS says:

    Christie’s biggest (political) mistake was not to run for president in 2012. He likely would have won.

  47. D-FENS says:

    Drudge changed the headline since this post FWIW.

    D-FENS says:
    September 27, 2017 at 11:40 am
    Matt Drudge is no accountant. The headline today is retarded.

  48. The Great Pumpkin says:

    At this point, I’m done fighting the trump tax cuts. Bring em on, and hopefully they grow the economy and make up for the extra tax on the professional class living in blue states with some economic gains that grow their paycheck.

  49. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m also sick of this flag crap. People pick the stupidest issues to fight. All I’m saying is that I wish these people protested with the same fight when a company takes a dump on their workers. I wish these individuals stood up and protested companies that decided to ship American jobs away for short term profit. Those are real fights worth fighting for, but no one does a damn thing. They care about nonsense that has no impact on their wallet.

  50. JJ fanboy says:

    Why do hipsters wear knit hats? Seriously. It was 85 degrees and I saw a hipster wearing a knit hat and those two tone shoes that look like suede bowling shoes

  51. Juice Box says:

    Hipsters go bald too…

  52. PumpkinFace says:

    What have you done to “fight” the tax cuts? Post comments on a blog for a few days. Good job.

    People have and still do protest the offshoring of jobs. You wouldn’t know about it because you’re an infant.

  53. 3b says:

    Maybe because Zack Brown does. The beards appear to be fading though.

  54. JJ fanboy says:

    3b

    I think you have it. Had to google zack brown but this guy had the same facial hair.

  55. chicagofinance says:

    Juice Box says:
    September 27, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    Juice – FYI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDmvLzMdNUo

  56. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Biggest protest and only real protest was in Seattle when I was in high school. Other then that, there has hardly been any mass protest or talk against offshoring. And it says a lot about our society, their priorities are all f!cked up. All my social media and locker room talk is filled with this bs flag talk.

    “People have and still do protest the offshoring of jobs. You wouldn’t know about it because you’re an infant.”

  57. The Great Pumpkin says:

    People want to kneel or stand….who really cares. What does it do for you? Where are the protests against shi!!y parents? Where are all the protests against the urban poor who destroy anything that they touch? Nah, no one gives a flying f!cl, they rather fight over the flag then care about the neighborhood they live in. Ignorance.

  58. exjersey says:

    Gen Xers don’t protest. Our lives are one great big outcry.

  59. Comrade Nom Deplume, whose sole regret is that he isn't Tom Brady says:

    “The Great Pumpkin says:
    September 27, 2017 at 2:10 pm
    Bingo, you answered your own question.”

    So you’re pissed that he didn’t do anything? That’s like being pissed at the dog for not chewing your shoes.

  60. No One says:

    Where are the protests against violent gangs and drug dealers and the laws that bring both the police and gangs into neighborhoods?

  61. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Kaepernick’s message was always foul…between him wearing pig police officer socks to wearing a Fidel Castro shirt and shouting incorrect statistics on Cuba vs. the US. The guy is an uniformed kid and no one should be listening to him.

    As far as him not being picked up, I’ve seen a million posts for people arguing that he should be in the league. I’ve seen a grand total of zero posts for someone advocating their own team picking him up. He and every other running quarterback is useless in the NFL. Running quarterbacks are good for 1 season max and then the league tears them apart…either by injuring them or just outsmarting them. People love the fact that he’s not signed because it gives them a reason to continue their faux outrage.

  62. 3b says:

    If everyone is so outraged them tune out on Sunday not to mention the other days. There is always Law and Order reruns if you can’t find anything else.

  63. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I like that Kaepernick called out Hillary for her super-predators comment and followed it up with “…and Trump is a racist”

  64. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I think you can make a case that everyone who is on their knees are racists.

  65. chicagofinance says:

    “Are your names Neal and Bob, or is that what you do?”
    -Dice-

  66. exjersey says:

    1:50 Trump is a Bi-polar dolt. Though we’ll save if he can pass tax reform.

  67. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    were they wearing shirts? Stu would like to hear more if they didn’t

    JJ fanboy says:
    September 27, 2017 at 4:28 pm
    Why do hipsters wear knit hats? Seriously. It was 85 degrees and I saw a hipster wearing a knit hat and those two tone shoes that look like suede bowling shoes

  68. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    yet he’s singlehandedly making Snowflakes melt

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    September 27, 2017 at 9:11 pm

    no one should be listening to him.

  69. Fast Eddie says:

    yet he’s singlehandedly making Snowflakes melt

    Why are you melting, puzzy willow?

  70. D-FENS says:

    So how do states like Florida and Texas function without any state taxes collected but California needs a 1% – 13.3% rate and NJ needs 1.4% – 8.97%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_tax_revenue_by_state

  71. The Great Pumpkin says:

    D,

    Let’s not use Florida as a shining example. Place is terrible. There’s a reason it’s filled with retirees, meth heads, and losers trying to skip out on child payments.

  72. D-FENS says:

    Florida is in the top 4 for gross federal tax collections. That’s why I mentioned them. The argument that “blue states” pay all the federal taxes appears to be a myth.

    Two states in the top 4 do not have a state tax at all. That’s the point.

    http://www.tax-rates.org/taxtables/income-tax-by-state

  73. The Great Pumpkin says:

    D,

    There is no free lunch, but keep thinking there is.

  74. D-FENS says:

    Please don’t talk to me anymore. You don’t even make sense.

  75. The Great Pumpkin says:

    How do they do it? Texas and Florida are both ranked in the top 5 for regressive taxes. So they have no income tax because they take so much more from the poor.

    “How does a state pay its bills without an income tax? The answer is all around you: the food you eat, the clothes you wear, the gasoline you put in your car. These goods are taxed by many state governments.

    This is how they make ends meet.

    Tennessee, for example, has the highest sales tax in the country. The Volunteer State, which reviles income taxes so much that voters changed the Tennessee Constitution last year to forbid these taxes for good, charges a 7 percent sales tax statewide. When combined with local sales taxes, the combined rate increases to an average of 9.45 percent, according to estimates from the Tax Foundation. That’s more than double the combined rate in super-touristy Hawaii.

    In New Hampshire, homeowners pay some of the highest effective property taxes in the nation, according to an analysis by RealtyTrac. And average in-state tuition at New Hampshire’s public universities is the highest in the country, according to a Bankrate analysis of statistics from the Department of Education’s College Affordability and Transparency Center.

    In Washington, pump prices are routinely among the highest in the country — in part because of a sky-high gasoline tax. The Energy Information Administration says Washington charges 37.5 cents per gallon in gas taxes, the fifth-highest in the country.

    Elsewhere, Texas and Nevada have above-average sales taxes, and Texas also has higher-than-average effective property tax rates. Florida relies on sales taxes, and its property taxes are above the national average. Wyoming and Alaska make up for the lost income tax revenue through their natural resources. Both states enjoy hefty tax revenues from coal mining and oil drilling operations, respectively.

    All of those extra taxes contribute to higher-than-average living expenses in some of those states. Florida, South Dakota, Washington and New Hampshire all have higher than the median cost of living, according to data compiled by the Center for Regional Economic Competitiveness. Alaska is among the most expensive places to live, but a big part of that is because it’s so remote.”

  76. JJ fanboy says:

    D-fens

    Residents of states that don’t have income tax can deduct their sales tax off their federal tax returns. You don’t even have to track all your receipts . The IRS provides a $ amount you can use if you don’t have any receipts based on your income

  77. D-FENS says:

    In Blue states…lawmakers…even Republicans seem adamant about retaining the ability to deduct state and local taxes and sales taxes on their federal returns.

    It can’t be as much in Texas in Florida. Lawmakers there have not come out against the tax plan.

  78. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Taxes as a percentage of income on the poorest to the wealthiest.
    Rank State Poorest 20% Middle 60% Top 1%
    1 Washington* 16.9 10.5 2.8
    2 Florida* 13.2 8.3 2.3
    3 South Dakota* 11.6 8.2 2.1
    4 Illinois 13.8 11.1 4.9
    5 Texas* 12.6 8.8 3.2
    6 Tennessee** 11.2 8.6 2.8
    7 Arizona 12.9 9.7 4.7
    8 Pennsylvania 12.0 9.8 4.4
    9 Indiana 12.3 10.7 5.4
    10 Alabama 10.2 9.4 3.8

  79. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Gov. Bobby Jindal wants Louisiana to be the next state to get rid of the income tax.

    “We need to do more to stay competitive,” Jindal told state lawmakers in 2013. “States with no income taxes are outperforming other states in terms of economic growth and population growth.”

    And he’s not alone. Policymakers in several other states, including Kansas, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio and Wisconsin, have either cut their state’s income tax or are considering eliminating them altogether.

    They’re driven by the same line of thinking: Cutting the income tax will boost take-home pay for everyone. It’ll make the state more attractive than its neighbors, drawing new businesses, creating jobs and sparking an influx of talented workers.

    But does this really happen? A variety of economic policy groups have pushed back over the past few years, raising questions about whether any of those claims are true.

    The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy points out, for example, that states with no income tax haven’t really created more jobs than others. Texas, which is at the center of America’s oil industry, has certainly outperformed the national average in job creation as energy prices surged over the past decade. But job growth trailed population growth in the other eight no-income-tax states, according to a 2013 ITEP report.

    Meanwhile, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, or CBPP, noted that a state’s income taxes have little influence over whether people ultimately decide to live there.

    “States should not cut their income taxes with the expectation that they will thereby significantly slow — let alone reverse — the flow of residents leaving their state,” CBPP’s Michael Mazerov said in the 2014 report. “Indeed, the opposite may well be true. Such cuts are more likely to reduce than enhance a state’s attractiveness as a place to live by leading to deterioration in the quality of critical public services.”

    Bottom line: There simply isn’t enough evidence to prove that slashing income taxes is the secret to a better economy, says Bill Gale, a tax policy expert at the Brookings Institution.

    “There’s no consistency in the findings,” Gale says. “That’s usually an indication that there’s just not enough information in the data.””

  80. JJ fanboy says:

    Pumps,

    Toll roads are much more expensive in Texas than Jersey and our water bill is double what it was in Jersey

    State parks also cost $7 a person to get into for everyone 13 and older. You can buy an annual pass for $70 that gets linked to the purchasers drivers license. That pass gets everyone in the car with the pass holder into the park for free . You also don’t need a fishing license to fish from the bank in a state park. You do need one to fish from
    A boat.

  81. The Great Pumpkin says:

    JJ,

    Aka it hurts the poor that live there.

    It’s pretty crazy that the poor and lower class flee to the states that hurt them the most with taxes, while the rich do the complete opposite and live in high income tax states.

    Guess for the poor, the lure of cheaper rent and housing costs outweigh the hit they will take in the percentage of their income going to taxes. While the rich stay in the high income tax state based on the lure of income they can create in those states.

  82. D-FENS says:

    Depends on the park. But I will say do not try to fish from the shore in NJ without a license. You absolutely need a fishing license…and don’t cheap out either. Get the Trout stamp because they stock many of the lakes with trout.

    http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/fishneed.htm

    JJ fanboy says:
    September 28, 2017 at 10:49 am
    Pumps,

    Toll roads are much more expensive in Texas than Jersey and our water bill is double what it was in Jersey

    State parks also cost $7 a person to get into for everyone 13 and older. You can buy an annual pass for $70 that gets linked to the purchasers drivers license. That pass gets everyone in the car with the pass holder into the park for free . You also don’t need a fishing license to fish from the bank in a state park. You do need one to fish from
    A boat.

  83. D-FENS says:

    http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandforests/parks/island.html

    Fees: Entrance fees are charged per vehicle from Memorial Day weekend to Labor Day.
    NJ Resident
    Non-Resident

    $ 6.00
    $12.00
    weekdays
    $10.00
    $20.00
    weekends/holidays
    N/A
    N/A
    walk-in/bicycle
    $ 5.00
    $ 7.00
    motorcycle
    $3.00
    $3.00
    Walk-in at Fisherman’s Walkway

  84. D-FENS says:

    http://www.islandbeachnj.org/Recreation/beachdriving.html

    You can drive a 4 wheel drive vehicle on the beach, with a valid permit, to gain access to areas of the park where you are allowed to surf fish. The permit is designed soley to allow for fishing access. Island Beach State Park issued permits do not allow you to just drive around on the beach.

    A three day permit is $75.00 for residents ($90 for non-residents). It is valid for 72 hours, starting from midnight of the day of purchase. The number of three day permits that are issued is limited during the summer season. Annual permits are $195.00 for residents ($225 for non-residents). They are valid for one calendar year. They are valid from January 1 and run through December 31 regardless of the date of purchase.

  85. D-FENS says:

    BTW, It’s my understanding that the state tax in NJ was enacted to fund schools and reduce property taxes. How’s that working out?

  86. exjersey says:

    9:29. I melt whenever your wife Mary Pat rims pumpkins ass.

  87. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Guy is on point with this.

    “In Bannon’s view, China is harming the U.S. by engaging in unfair trade practices, such as the forced transfer of U.S. technology to Chinese companies. While many experts agree, Bannon has a more dire view of the consequences. “There have been 4,000 years of Chinese diplomatic history, all centered on ‘barbarian management,’ minus the last 150 years,” he says. China’s historical disposition toward trading partners, he contends, is exploitative and potentially ruinous. “It’s always about making the barbarians a tributary state,” he says. “Our tribute to China is our technology—that’s what it takes to enter their market, and [they’ve taken] $3.5 trillion worth over the last 10 years. We have to give them the basic essence of American capitalism: our innovation.””

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-28/bannon-s-back-and-targeting-china

  88. JJ fanboy says:

    D-fens

    I meant Texas state parks you can fish in without a license from the banks. I think Jersey you don’t need a license to saltwater fish

    I wound up buying a non resident 1 week license this summer when I was in jersey to take my kids and niece fishing for bluegill. I figured with my luck even though I wasn’t fishing a warden would see me untangling a line or something and give me a big fine.

    I went fishing in Oklahoma and got stuck buying an annual license since it wasn’t much more than a week long license. I figured we would go back a few times in the fall to see the leaves change and we could try for trout. Oklahoma only sells licenses that run from Jan 1st to dec 31. Texas runs from the day you buy it till the last day of that month the following year.

  89. Fast Eddie says:

    exjersey,

    I see that your life is as miserable on the west coast as it was on the east coast. You can run but you can’t hide. Maybe you should go back to your roots… somewhere in the heartland where the pace of life is more manageable for you.

  90. chicagofinance says:

    Too bad Pitino isnt still in Lexington…..

    Fast Eddie says:
    September 28, 2017 at 11:47 am
    exjersey,

    I see that your life is as miserable on the west coast as it was on the east coast. You can run but you can’t hide. Maybe you should go back to your roots… somewhere in the heartland where the pace of life is more manageable for you.

  91. Libturd sporting Tiger Wood says:

    “Guy is on point with this.”

    Bannon::Pumpkin as Goebbels::Hitler

  92. Phoenix says:

    Grim need to pm left-wing. Let me know how

  93. exjersey says:

    11:47. Sorry you married Mary Pat’s ugly sister riiiight. Yeah i’m in purgatory.

  94. exjersey says:

    12:42 did U. of Chi have a basketball team or did they just recite Chaucer.

  95. exjersey says:

    No shower can clean this dirt off:

    Hugh Hefner’s wife Crystal Harris will inherit nothing after signing an ironclad prenup before their wedding and was never added to his will, it has been reported.
    The couple, who shared a 60 year age gap, tied the knot on New Year’s Eve in 2012 at the Playboy Mansion in Los Angeles.
    Before the nuptials, Harris was said to have signed an ‘ironclad’ prenuptial agreement.

  96. 3b says:

    One wonders what would possess her to sign it! Certainly not love!

  97. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I didn’t get the memo that we are having a “Who can be a bigger douche than Pumps?” competition today.

    I’m fine with U of Chi as the dean seems to have some balls and doesn’t mind putting them on the table for you to inspect, hairy scrotum and all.

    Chaucer probably requires a safe space, as I’m sure there are many micro-mini-nano-aggressions in the prose.

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/08/25/u-chicago-warns-incoming-students-not-expect-safe-spaces-or-trigger-warnings

    exjersey says:
    September 28, 2017 at 2:18 pm
    12:42 did U. of Chi have a basketball team or did they just recite Chaucer.

  98. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Free rent has a tangible value, even for an uncertain period.

    One wonders what would possess her to sign it! Certainly not love!

  99. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Excuse my naiveté when it comes to all things lawn-related. Several weeks ago it looked like my lawn would not need to be cut again this year. Ever since the heat came back on Sunday it seems like my lawn has grown more in 4 days than it had in 4 weeks.

    Does temperature trigger grass growth?

  100. 3b says:

    Ex pat. True but what a price to pay!

  101. Juice Box says:

    He was 86 and she was 26 who is to say it wasn’t love?

  102. 3b says:

    Surprised there are no comments on Trumps tax reform change whatever.

  103. 3b says:

    Juice Yes who am I to judge!! I am sure it was!! My comment would be deemed offensive today.

  104. Juice Box says:

    re: Tax reform. Meh….

    The fact is failure is an option in Washington, so whatever it takes cut the taxes. What is a few trillion more in deficit spending anyway, it’s just all numbers on a screen.

    I kind of like the threat of the “very major” executive order that he would probably sign next week that will enable people to buy insurance across state lines. That is bound to ruffle a few feathers.

  105. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I think every White House correspondent needs a gunshot to the cunt. Women too.

  106. 3b says:

    Juice Trump a disaster Obama a disaster! Tax reform NFL and all the rest!! Country going down the tubes. Nothing can be done. The silly fight it out on Facebook, I catch up on Vikings. Now those guys got stuff done!!

  107. Juice Box says:

    3b – God forbid you are 86 yrs old and alone. Would you reject the advances of a woman 60 years older than you who only wanted you to live out your days with happiness?

  108. Juice Box says:

    trick question 3b…

  109. 3b says:

    Juice. No trick!

  110. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Are 146 year old women hot? My guess would be the market would trend to near necrophilia rates.

    God forbid you are 86 yrs old and alone. Would you reject the advances of a woman 60 years older than you who only wanted you to live out your days with happiness?

  111. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    BTW, I’ve been rejecting the advances of women 60 years older than me for a long time. Thankfully, the demand has been dropping off in recent years.

  112. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Winners and Losers Under the Trump Tax Plan – The Wall Street Journal
    https://apple.news/A1l3e4JsUTZOKBu2ZLy2XvQ

  113. exjersey says:

    Why the PLO exists today:

    https://youtu.be/rXEIPHDFokI

  114. The Great Pumpkin says:

    There are lots of people who throw the term ‘ghetto’ around. But which of New Jersey’s largest cities are the most ghetto of all?

    How do you decide if a place is ghetto or not? You ask the internet. According to the Urban Dictionary, a ghetto is defined as:

    “urban; of or relating to (inner) city life” and “poor; of or relating to the poor life.”

    Using that criteria, it’s not hard to scrape the internet, run some scientific data on where ghettos might exist in a state and then put out a list.

    After analyzing all cities with 10,000 people or more, we came up with this list as the most ghetto places in New Jersey:

    Camden (Photos)
    Newark (Photos)
    Passaic (Photos)
    Paterson (Photos)
    Asbury Park (Photos)
    Atlantic City (Photos)
    Trenton (Photos)
    Bridgeton (Photos)
    East Orange (Photos)
    Jersey City (Photos)
    Read on below to see where your hometown ranked and why.

    Note: We’re aware that there are more ‘ghetto’ cities that are smaller than 10,000. We wanted to rank only the largest cities here for a more clear indication of which major city centers are ghettos. Therefore, it’s assumed that the cities above (and their suburbs) are more ghetto than the larger cities not listed here.

  115. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Do you know anyone whom you’d refer to as White trash? Most likely. Either there’s someone at your job, in your neighborhood, or in your family that you’d throw that label on.

    Essentially, White trash is everywhere.

    While calling someone White trash might be a mean-spirited way of ridiculing or poking fun at a particular demographic, it can also serve as a way to express disdain about the way someone lives their life. It isn’t as derogatory as using other racial slurs, and in fact, the term has a bit of humor associated with it, making it the focus of pop culture.

    Take for instance Jerry Springer, Honey Boo Boo, Kid Rock, Eminem, Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite and even Cousin Eddie in National Lampoon movies.

    According to the Merriam Webster Dictionary, white trash is defined as:

    “A term used broadly to define a person or group of persons whom embody the concepts of ignorance, racism, violence, alcoholism, poverty, and anglo-saxon ancestry. Similarly used with the term ‘cracker,’ ‘hillbilly’ or ‘redneck’.”

    So, using some data crunching, we should be able to measure where the most White trash communities in the state of New Jersey are actually located.

    After pouring over data, watching too many fist fights and perusing illiterate Facebook comments, we’ve determined these are the most White trash cities in New Jersey:

    Keansburg
    Gloucester City
    Garfield
    Millville
    Sayreville
    Wildwood
    Vineland
    Phillipsburg
    Keyport
    Bayonne
    Time to take some meth and stay up all night with us as we go through the cities one by one. And before you say we’re some kind of reverse racist, you can also check out the most Ghetto city in New Jersey.

  116. Libturd sporting Tiger Wood says:

    The more I look at this tax reform, the more I see how this is nothing but a big screw to the middle class. The lower class loves the crumbs thrown their way. The rich, they save a sh1tload. The middle class, pays more. Worst of all, the liberals are so focused on their stupid BLM and gender equality issues that this might just slide through. The divide between the haves and the have nots will be widened greatly by this plan. You won’t find this story because the rich dudes run the media. They want this just as much as Trump does. And all of those campaign contributors? They want this a ton too. Occupy movement…where are you when we need you?

  117. JJ fanboy says:

    Pumps

    What about people who live on highways in Passaic ? What are they?

  118. Bagholder says:

    ‘Worst of all, the liberals are so focused on their stupid BLM and gender equality issues that this might just slide through. The divide between the haves and the have nots will be widened greatly by this plan. You won’t find this story because the rich dudes run the media. They want this just as much as Trump does. And all of those campaign contributors? They want this a ton too. Occupy movement…where are you when we need you?’

    Solid irrational ranting.

    The tax plan and its inequalities is front page news. And it’s never going to pass. And it’s somehow those evil liberals fault.

  119. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    But…Pumps paid up to live in a turn-key ghetto.

    Pumps

    What about people who live on highways in Passaic ? What are they?

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