What does your soul get you in NJ?

From the New Yorker:

What a Faustian Bargain Gets You in New York’s Real-Estate Market

In the New York real-estate market, where stratospheric prices continue to climb, a pact with Satan just doesn’t get you what it once did. Sure, when you forfeit your soul to the infernal dominion of Lucifer, you might end up with limitless knowledge and sensual pleasure—but don’t expect a Tribeca loft as part of the bargain! Here’s what you can get in all five boroughs in exchange for the everlasting damnation of your very spirit.

Manhattan – You’ve always wanted to live in New York, New York, and, now that you’ve inked a contract with a demon, you finally have the means. So, what sort of place can the Devil offer you? Turns out, nothing good. Ten years ago, the market for mortgaged souls was strong, and the archfiend was well capitalized, but now all the subprime lending he did for what was left of everyone’s integrity has left him cash poor. Plus, the toxic deals he made with certain New York real-estate families have significantly downgraded his credit. Nevertheless, it’s not totally hopeless. (Well, in terms of your soul’s eternal rest, it is absolutely hopeless, but, re: your mortal living situation, there are slivers of hope here and there.) With an underworld guarantor, you can rent a completely livable studio in the Financial District or on the Upper East Side.

Brooklyn- Brooklyn is a big borough with diverse real-estate offerings, many of which are way outside your Hell-derived resources. Even with Satan’s institutional backing, don’t expect to get much in brownstone Brooklyn. If you find a place in Cobble Hill that’s underpriced because it houses a known plague omen, you’ll still need your parents to chip in on the down payment. However, if, deeper in Brooklyn, you’re willing to price out some veteran locals who haven’t leveraged their mortal souls for decent apartments—in, say, Brownsville, or Bensonhurst—your Hell-cash will go further. The commute to Manhattan will be a bitch, but note that Satan has recently been allowing more and more people to do his bidding remotely.

Staten Island – The New Jersey of New York City is cheaper than the other boroughs, so if you cash in your Faustian bargain there, you can move into a pretty nice one-bedroom. But do take note that if you buy or rent in Staten Island you will be required to live in Staten Island. Of course, eventually you’ll reside in actual Hell, so living in the only borough with a majority of voters who chose Donald Trump might not be a bad transitional phase.

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159 Responses to What does your soul get you in NJ?

  1. exjersey says:

    It’s hard to be a saint in the City.

  2. Chi says:

    You get up at 4AM to FRIST? Or are you still up? WatF?

  3. grim says:

    In the middle of nowhere in Arkansas.

  4. Fast Eddie says:

    The boroughs are not Manhattan. Let’s determine that first.

  5. grim says:

    Well, really, it’s clear that Satan gave up on Manhattan YEARS AGO.

  6. exjersey says:

    More like just to piss.

  7. Ottoman says:

    They don’t have K-marts?

    Fast Eddie says:
    October 10, 2017 at 7:34 am
    The boroughs are not Manhattan. Let’s determine that first.

  8. exjersey says:

    Oh, we got another one, just like the other ones
    Another bad ass, another troublemaker
    I’m scared, ain’t you boys scared?
    I wonder if he’s gonna show us what bad is?
    Boys, we gotta man with a dog collar on
    You think we oughta’ trow ol’ Spike a bone?

    Hey Spike what do you like?
    Hey Spike what do you like?

    Here’s another misfit, another Jimmy Dean
    Bet be’s got a motorbike,
    What’a y’all think?
    Bet if we good we’ll get a ride on it
    If be ain’t too mad about the future
    Matbe we oughta help him see
    The future ain’t what it used to be

    Hey Spike, you’re scarin’ my wife
    Hey Spike what do you like
    Please Spike, tell us ’bout life

  9. exjersey says:

    Coupla typos sorry Tom

  10. grim says:

    There are actually K-Marts in Manhattan, aren’t there?

  11. Steamturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Jimmy Dean makes a terrible breakfast sandwich. Just sayin’.

  12. Steamturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    “There are actually K-Marts in Manhattan, aren’t there?”

    There’s one in Penn Station dork.

  13. chicagofinance says:

    Highest revenue K-Mart in the company is the one in Southhampton…..

  14. 3b says:

    I guess the Bronx is not even part of NYC anymore. At some point someone may discover it. The Bronx has the best subway system into Manhattan. Woodlawn in the Bronx has a metro north station 25 minutes to Grand Central. And you can walk to everything. Might be too Irish/ irish American for some. Parkchester the sister of Stuyvesant town train stop right in the center. Beautiful apartments many have outdoor gardens. Plenty of shopping. Fordham road Bainbridge Grand course beautiful apartments many with fire places etc. Little Italy still survives. For seafood lovers there is City Island. Out door activities Van Cortland Park. Horse riding at the Pelham Bay stables. More Italian restaurants in Morris Park some owned by Albanians. Albanians seem to like to live where Italians are. But no mention of the Bronx in the article. Oh well.

  15. grim says:

    Last time I was in Bridgehampton I saw a TJ Maxx and had to stop in to see what the hell they would sell there. It was all pretty high end stuff. There was an old Roller (70s or early 80s) parked in a handicapped spot out front. I wish I took a picture of it, the juxtaposition of the out-of-style roller parked so pedestrianly out in front of a discount retailer in the Hamptons was really brilliant.

  16. grim says:

    3b – Bronx and Queens there, I didn’t cut/paste those two. (I always cut excerpts to be able to claim fair use)

  17. 3b says:

    Grim Ok. But I think I did a pretty good job selling the Bronx!!

  18. Steamturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    “Albanians seem to like to live where Italians are.”

    One of the better pies and certainly the friendliest in my area is PrimeTime in Bloomfield. All Albanians. You can see gjyshe in the back making the sauce pretty much morning to night. Excellent prices too, with their website coupons.

  19. 3b says:

    Stu interesting article.

  20. Juice Box says:

    Benny Tudino’s in Hoboken = Albanian

  21. Steamturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    I love Benny’s too. Have to order their big slice though. Their regular sized pizzas suck for some reason.

  22. Yo! says:

    Chicagofinance 8:37, source?

    Former Walmart CEO says Secaucus store top 10 in country doing $150 million per year.

    http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index.ssf/2013/10/promotions_at_secaucus_walmart.html

  23. Juice Box says:

    re: Secaucus Walmart store. Does that include Sam’s Club revenue?

    When I lived in Hoboken we would go over there for the movie theater and occasionally go to that Walmart. It was always a mad house, seemed like the entire population of Hudson County mixed in with a bunch of shoppers coming from NYC. Each family as it was always a family affair would be in there with several shopping carts full of FOOD!!!!

  24. Steamturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    From the Captain Cheapo perspective, Walmart is mana from heaven. No one’s standard pricing is as low. With that said, their employees are truly entry level and are really as clueless as one can be. I don’t food shop there since there aren’t any close to us, but I have looked at the food prices and the quality and it’s way better than ShopRite. Heck, a brisket is half the price there. Same brand too. I would also argue that the quality of their products are higher than that of Target, Kohl’s, and BB&B. But is it worth it to deal with their crappy store layout, low quality employees and hobnobbing with the animals shopping there? I say no. About the only time I step in one is when family is on vacation and we don’t want to get ripped off by tourist prices where we are staying and right before kid goes to camp since we need so many $5 and $10 items. You’d get killed at Target.

  25. Yo! says:

    Walmart has 89 job openings in Hoboken. Most of these jobs pay $100,000+.

  26. No One says:

    Peopleofwalmart.com is good for some chuckles.

  27. Juice Box says:

    Marc Lore and Jet out of Hoboken are making some waves for sure in e-commerce. They are busy trying to get their smart-cart algorithms (which is the reason why Walmart bought them) working on Walmart’s site and their expectation is online sales will explode in the next year for Walmart.

    Should be an interesting and sleepless year for Jet and Walmart employees in their bid to outpace all others except for Amazon.

    http://fortune.com/2017/10/10/walmart-says-its-online-sales-will-explode-next-year-amid-war-with-amazon/

  28. Yo! says:

    Eli Manning’s stats have dropped off ever since he moved out of Hoboken. Separately, I’m told Eli pulled his Hoboken condo off the market because Eli reads this blog and my posts convinced him to maintain a long position in Hoboken real estate.

  29. D-FENS says:

    The debate should be interesting

    @KimGuadagnoNJ
    Kim Guadagno
    As finance chair for DNC, Murphy raised big $ from Weinstein. Murphy was ultimately rewarded for fundraising with appointment as ambassador.

  30. Nwnj says:

    Hollywood liberals and fake news nytimes enabled a dnc insider r@pist for decades. Big story whether they want to cover it or not.

  31. chicagofinance says:

    K-Mart….. not Walmart…. …however, let me look….

    Yo! says:
    October 10, 2017 at 9:22 am
    Chicagofinance 8:37, source?

  32. Steamturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    I wonder if Murphy blew him too?

  33. 3b says:

    Three Spanish naval ships arrive in Barcelona harbor ahead of Catalonia s expected declaration of independence.

  34. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @NateSilver538

    Hard to think of any difference between Weinstein & Trump

    other than one of them was his

    PARTY’s NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

  35. Fast Eddie says:

    Moana [1:33],

    Weinstein is low energy, that’s the difference.

  36. Steamturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Wow…Guess that video someone posted after Charlottesville was legit after all!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/deandre-harris-charge-charlottesville-attack-sticks-white-nationalists-wounding-a7992671.html

    Watch the left claim fake news.

  37. D-FENS says:

    Everyone who showed up there that day should go to jail.

  38. D-FENS says:

    Jeez. Angelina Jolie and Gweneth Paltrow now on the list of accusers. Brad Pitt threatened to beat him up?

  39. Phoenix says:

    Elsa and Anna also on the list of accusers. It just keeps growing.

  40. D-FENS says:

    Let it goooooooo

  41. Phoenix says:

    Breaking news

    Illegals from China causing destruction in Pennsylvania. Spotters on the border of NJ preparing for invasion.

    http://bit.ly/2fZpITB

  42. leftwing says:

    “Hard to think of any difference between Weinstein & Trump”

    Keep painting with that brush puzzy.

    Maybe one spoke about ‘you can even grab them by the pvzzy’. Remind me, how many accusers came forward there? I missed the headline of him being removed from *his* family business as CEO.

    Maybe the difference is Weinstein systematically raped young women when he wasn’t spanking off in front of them, lol.

    And don’t forget your commander in chief, convicted of such actions *while in office*.

    Please keep re-tweeting. Everywhere. All the time. Every one of these exaggerations, every Colbert monologue, each CBS hatchet job keeps putting more points (undecided voters) into my category. Well done! Thank you.

  43. Nwnj says:

    I think the Weinstein story is huge. Massive efforts were made to bury it. And just like the major predators he hid behind an institution(DNC). Who knew and when?

  44. Nwnj says:

    And this pos has a lot more in common with bill. Please step into my office.

  45. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I’ll bet puzzy fists herself.

  46. Juice Box says:

    Stop Fat and Ugly shaming Harvey, if he looked like George Clooney instead of a “Human Shrek” those actresses would have never complained about him dropping his robe.

  47. Juice Box says:

    Remember snowflakes masculinity isn’t the symptom of an illness. It is the cancer itself.

  48. Nwnj says:

    The dnc, fake nytimes and Hollywood liberals enabled a r@pist.

  49. Juice Box says:

    Some Hollywood Honcho had enough balls to grab Terry Crews balls.

    https://twitter.com/terrycrews

  50. chicagofinance says:

    The Truth Is Catching Up With Tesla

    New revelations about Tesla Inc.’s production of the highly anticipated Model 3 sedan should shock, but not surprise, investors.

    The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Tesla has recently been building major portions of the Model 3 by hand. This comes less than a week after Tesla announced it fell short of its third-quarter production guidance of 1,500 cars by more than 80%.

    At the time, Tesla attributed the shortfall to ‘production bottlenecks.’ On Friday, Tesla said it would postpone its launch event for a new truck to November to deal with Model 3 issues and to help provide assistance to Puerto Rico.

    Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk is known as a risk-taker, which has endeared him to Wall Street analysts and investors alike. There is a fine line, however, between setting aggressive goals and misleading shareholders.

    Tesla is inching closer to that line. Tesla was making three Model 3s on an average day in the third quarter. Mr. Musk should have known in August, when production guidance was reiterated, that the company wasn’t going to produce 1,500 Model 3s by the end of September.

    There are other examples. At the Model 3 launch event in July, he told reporters that Tesla had received more than 500,000 customer deposits for the car. Five days later, after a series of questions from The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Musk revised that number to 455,000 on a conference call with investors. The earlier, higher figure he quoted had been ‘just a guess.’

    Investors approved Tesla’s decision to pay about $8 billion in stock and assumed debt to acquire Mr. Musk’s struggling SolarCity last fall, after Mr. Musk demonstrated roofs that could generate solar power for homes and promised production would begin in the spring. A year later, those roofs are conspicuously absent, beyond some installations for Tesla executives.

    Last, but certainly not least, Mr. Musk told investors in May 2016 that he expected Tesla to produce between 100,000 and 200,000 Model 3s in the second half of 2017.

    There is far more at stake here than just semantics. Investors have bid Tesla to a nearly $60 billion equity valuation on expectations the company will dominate the automobile market. That will be a fantasy if Tesla can’t produce enough cars profitably. Tesla doesn’t have the financial wherewithal for investors to be patient. It burned more than $1 billion of cash in the second quarter and has nearly $20 billion in liabilities on its balance sheet. Tesla’s soaring stock reignited the interest of better-capitalized car rivals in electric cars. Fresh competition is coming.

    At 67 times 2019’s expected earnings, Tesla stock is valued as though the company can execute on its vision flawlessly. The facts suggest the opposite.

    It is high time for Tesla–and Wall Street–to acknowledge reality.

  51. Libturd sporting Tiger Wood says:

    I’ve been calling for shorting Tesla since the low 200s.

  52. D-FENS says:

    Musk is too busy rebuilding Puerto Rico’s power grid.

  53. exjersey says:

    That plant that Weinstein tossed off into is suing for palimony.

  54. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I want to short Tesla in the worst way but when 50% of the population worships someone who does nothing but fail to deliver on promises and projections, there is way too much cash to drive it to even more asinine levels. It’s the equivalent of valuing Shake Shack with the same market cap as McDonalds.

  55. No One says:

    If the model 3 sells poorly and continues to lose money, that would be hard to explain. The guy will forever be a story teller.
    This analysis makes sense:
    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4080920-400000-tesla-model-3-cars-2018-just-possible

  56. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The amount of hate for Musk is crazy. It’s just as bad as the love. Somewhere in the middle lies the answer. Hate on Musk all you want, but there is no denying that he will be in the history books for the change he brings to our world.

  57. D-FENS says:

    Bill and Hillary Clinton ‘haven’t been speaking for months after he tossed her hand-wringing election book in the TRASH’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4965858/Bill-Hillary-Clinton-haven-t-spoken-months.html#ixzz4vCf9B4G9
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  58. D-FENS says:

    Musk may be in the history books for defrauding investors if he isn’t careful.

  59. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The amount of hate for Musk is crazy. It’s just as bad as the love. Somewhere in the middle lies the answer. Hate on Musk all you want, but there is no denying that he will be in the history books for the change he brings to our world.

    There’s a difference between hate and seeing through a company that has never produced a profitable product and done nothing but fall short on projections and burn cash.

  60. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Blue,

    If it wasn’t for him, the car industry would still be brushing off electric vehicles. He changed that, and it’s worth every penny for the future. God knows his impact on space exploration, he pretty much is the first person to take the risk and privatize space travel instead of waiting for the govt to take all the risks and produce all the developments. You guys can brush this off, because you are only focused on profit, but this man changed our lives whether you realize it yet, or not. Writing is on the wall.

  61. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You have to lose money to make big changes in this world. That’s the problem with big business and capitalism right now, the big boys own everything directly or indirectly. They are only focused on short term profits, therefore, unwilling to risk anything to bring major change to our lives. They have no competition because they own it all. I think only 6 corporations own all the news agencies in the world. Think about that for a minute. Is that capitalism? How does this non competition impact our lives? What kind of control does it give them over our everyday life? It’s insane, almost total control. Yet the brilliant part, they throw words out there like capitalism, free market, democracy, and freedom of choice to make it seem like you think for yourself and have choice. I’m not the type to be negative, but it’s the truth. Every aspect of your life is controlled, you have choice, but only the choice that is given. The news is nothing more than a divide a conquer tool for the powers that be, and that’s the truth.

  62. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @Kaepernick7

    I appreciate you @Eminem ✊🏾

  63. Juice Box says:

    re: The amount of hate for Musk is crazy.

    No hate just calling out his lies. The consensus among auto-industry executives and analysts, financial analysts, and others is that he is full of it and his lies are now catching up to him.

    The reality is if they survive they won’t deliver more than 75,000 model 3s next year, never mind this year. Their valuation for a company that has never hit an earnings milestone in its history can suddenly solve their massive auto manufacturing problems, and their technology challenges, and somehow slow their massive cash burn rate is a pipe dream.

  64. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    ““From his endorsement of Bannon,
    support for the Klansmen – tiki torches in hand,
    for the soldiers that’s black and comes home from Iraq and is still told to ‘Go back to Africa’…
    fork and a dagger in this racist 94 year old grandpa”

    Eminem

  65. Fast Eddie says:

    Pumpkin Seed,

    Do you have a f.ucking job? Holy sh1t, all you do is post here every waking minute of your day!

  66. Fast Eddie says:

    Hey Puzzy Moana,

    I suggest you you change your handle to accommodate Weinstein. LOL! How wonderful to see the fake left fighting among themselves! What frauds and weaklings you pathetic liberal losers are.

  67. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Fast,

    I work on a computer. How difficult is it to write a 2 min post? And why do you even care?

  68. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Fast,

    How does it feel to a be soldier for the right? Do you have a job? You spend so much time pushing their bs agenda.

  69. Fast Eddie says:

    How does it feel to a be soldier for the right?

    It’s great because I get to ridicule and expose the lunacy of the peculiar subculture created by liberals and progressives – those who suffer from a disease caused by a deformity of the mind.

  70. Fast Eddie says:

    I work on a computer.

    Aww… such a big boy you are. Do you eat your Alphabets cereal while pushing the buttons?

  71. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Fast,

    Did you think of that all on your own? Or were you fed your ideology without even knowing it? So sick of the left and right bs dividing this country.

  72. The Great Pumpkin says:

    According to one group, the righties are idiots. According to the other group, the lefties are idiots. When will both of these sides wake up and smell the coffee? They are both being played. Purposefully fed lines that will appeal to them.

  73. D-FENS says:

    Michael is woke

  74. exjersey says:

    9:34 unless Trump can actually do anything other than annoy and cajole, the leadership will flip back to Democratic control soon.

  75. exjersey says:

    Unless of course Trump succeeds in destroying the World.

  76. grim says:

    The Northeast should just declare independence from the United States.

  77. JJ fanboy says:

    I saw a tesla s yesterday with a vanity plate that had tesla spelled out as part of it.

    Dallas, home of the 40k millionaire. Make 40k a year and pretend you are a millionaire.

  78. JJ fanboy says:

    Sorry. Meant model 3. Looked like a late 90’s corolla

  79. Phoenix says:

    Expected to see comments about Guadagno and Murphy today on here.

    Both suck in my opinion.

    Back to reading Pumpkin Posts.
    It is, after all, his season.

  80. Nwnj says:

    Yeah slim shady is a real big celebrity these days. Probably hoping trump will beat him up on twitter. Get some suburban street cred.

  81. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Tesla quality is crap. Battery tech is questionable as energy required to produce and toxicity of elements required (as well as required disposal of non-recyclable elements) do not offset CO output of ICE. Tesla is making a fool out of the left by marketing supposed “green” tech when it is not. It’s form over function. Seriously. At least the Prius was reliable.

  82. Nick says:

    And Kaepernick was adopted and raised by white folks. Went to college for free and made millions in the NFL. America is just vile.

  83. exjersey says:

    There’s nothing wrong with America.

  84. exjersey says:

    But then all of my American Dreams came true.

  85. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Watched five minute of debate. Murphy bought this election and he didn’t even need to. Christie is toxic so no one who worked with him would be able to get the large undecided vote. Just another election where the voter is forced to elect between two completely unqualified and embarrassing choices. I, for one, will vote for Kim for as bullying as Christie was, he did save the property tax payer more than any governor has in NJ since I was old enough to vote. Sadly, Murphy will reverse this trend overnight.

  86. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Who the F cares what someone does during the national anthem? It’s worse than how the Dems handled Charlottesville. Let them have their protest and move on. The impact of the snowflake upbringing is really starting to show it’s colors. Get a thick skin and move on.

  87. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Want to complain about lack of patriotism? Write a letter to the USMT (Soccer) and tell them how embarrassed you are to be an American and that all of the Soccer revenue you should go to the womens’ team.

  88. Comrade Nom Deplume, The Swift and the Just says:

    Grim,

    There is a huge incentive for states to get out. That incentive creates an equally huge incentive to crush any secession effort.

    Should any state or region actually succeed at seceding from the Union, and it is recognized and eventually sticks, it will have monumental repercussions for the remaining states and citizens. This is because the national debt will be owed (potentially) by a lot fewer citizens.

    States don’t pay the debt, taxpayers do. Importantly, secession or expatriation is, at first, a nonevent for a taxpayer. They are still citizens (and taxpayers) regardless of where they live. If the Northeast or any other bloc seceded tomorrow, in theory, IRS collections would remain unaffected.

    However, if a seceding state (I’ll stick with the singular) should get diplomatic recognition from other countries, and go about nation-building in spite of threats from the Beltway, and there is no military occupation and crushing of said-rebellion, then citizens in the breakaway state will renounce citizenship en masse, and will attract legions of wealthy to their tax haven. I say tax haven because while the state will likely have to raise taxes, the new citizens won’t be obligated to pay US taxes if they have renounced (even if the US doesn’t acknowledge renunciation, they still cannot enforce it should the renunciant refuse to file 1040s). So the overall tax burden will be lower and that will attract HNW individuals and professionals. Corporations will be less likely to redomesticate but may in time, starting with smaller ones.

    The net effect would be that a sizeable percentage of the population responsible for paying the national debt would be able to skip out on that bill. There is “withdrawal liability” for some individuals now, courtesy of the HEART Act exit tax, but that is minimal in scale.

    Imagine the damage this would do to a world economy; the UST obligations reduced to junk status and potential civil war, at least economically.

    So regardless of which side occupies the WH, there is a huge incentive to crush any secessionist effort; you need these taxpayers even if you hate them.

  89. Comrade Nom Deplume, wearing his USMNT brown bag mask says:

    Steam,

    “Want to complain about lack of patriotism? Write a letter to the USMT (Soccer) and tell them how embarrassed you are to be an American and that all of the Soccer revenue you should go to the womens’ team.”

    Word, bruh.

  90. Comrade Nom Deplume, American Spitballer says:

    “According to one group, the righties are idiots. According to the other group, the lefties are idiots. When will both of these sides wake up and smell the coffee? They are both being played. Purposefully fed lines that will appeal to them.”

    I suggest they have a massive GTG. With guns.

  91. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m just so sick of the back and forth between both sides on non-issues. When it comes to things that matter….crickets from both sides.

  92. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    Banon knows exactly how to trigger the extreme right wingers

    STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary’s Cankle fluid. says:
    October 11, 2017 at 11:53 am

    Who the F cares

  93. The Great Pumpkin says:

    People want to kneel, do jumping jacks, or sit on their fat lazy a$$ during the anthem….so be it, wtf does it have to do with me. Yet, both sides keep focusing on this bs. What about improving education, improving wages, improving the work place…..crickets. When it comes to an issue about helping and improving life for everyone, all you hear is crickets. When it comes to issues like gun control , abortion, or standing for the anthem, people get loud and go to war with the other side. Unbelievable. So lost, it’s beyond belief. Helping people, who cares. Divisive issue that doesn’t really matter, let’s go all in.

  94. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @business
    Nobel economist Thaler says he’s nervous about the stock market

    “The Republican leadership does not seem to be interested in anything remotely bipartisan, and they need unanimity within their caucus, which they don’t have,”
    Thaler said. “And the president’s strategy of systematically insulting the votes he needs doesn’t seem to be optimizing anything I can think of, but maybe he’s a deeper thinker than me.”

  95. exjersey says:

    Wot? Sorry mate twas just practicing my freedom – california Style

    Yeah we all have ideas – but clearly Trump elevated IQ will lead us all.

  96. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Doesn’t it feel like W all over again? Shouldn’t be long before someone takes a picture of Trump reading stories to toddlers with the book is upside down.

  97. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Time to dust off the DOW 23000 hats.

  98. D-FENS says:

    Jesus….Alzheimer’s? No wonder congress is so fukd up.

    https://www.statnews.com/2017/10/11/pharmacist-congress-drug-delivery/

    The deliveries arrive at the secretive Office of the Attending Physician, an elaborate medical clinic where Navy doctors triage medical emergencies and provide basic health care for lawmakers who pay an annual fee of just over $600. Every one comes from Washington’s oldest community pharmacy, Grubb’s.

    Mike Kim, the reserved pharmacist-turned-owner of the pharmacy, said he has gotten used to knowing the most sensitive details about some of the most famous people in Washington.

    “At first it’s cool, and then you realize, I’m filling some drugs that are for some pretty serious health problems as well. And these are the people that are running the country,” Kim said, listing treatments for conditions like diabetes and Alzheimer’s.

    “It makes you kind of sit back and say, ‘Wow, they’re making the highest laws of the land and they might not even remember what happened yesterday.’”

  99. D-FENS says:

    grim…please un mod my comment if you have a moment. thank you

  100. exjersey says:

    An 18-year-old Florida man raped his neighbor at knifepoint and then asked her if he could make it up to her by doing yardwork, authorities said.

    Timothy Walding broke into the woman’s home in Boynton Beach and attacked her on Friday, according to the Palm Beach Post. Cops said he held a knife to her throat and tied her hands to the bed.

    “You really should deadbolt your door because I didn’t really want to do this, but I had to do it,” Walding told her, according to the police report obtained by the Palm Beach Post.

  101. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    And here is your classic example of what is wrong with our government. If this does not turn your stomach, well then, continue to enjoy the crumbs.

    http://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2017/10/11/menendez-trial-prosecution-rests-judge-hear-arguments-dismissing-charges/754258001/

    If I was a betting man, I would wager all of it on Menendez walking Scot-free. What a country!

  102. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:
  103. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wow, just wow. The irony in claiming “corporate welfare” attacks from one of the individuals regularly taking advantage of corporate welfare. So no one else can have their mouth on that tit, it’s only for you?

    “A group backed by billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch unveiled a television and digital campaign Wednesday that argues “corporate welfare” threatens Republican efforts to dramatically alter the U.S. tax code.

    The Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce is targeting the politically powerful National Association of Realtors for opposing a proposal by the White House and Republican lawmakers to double the standard deduction, as well as several entities that represent renewable energy interests defending other tax credits. The groups are “jeopardizing tax reform,” the Koch-backed group said in a statement.”

  104. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just keep in mind that there are a ton of hit pieces on musk and tesla by the establishment. These people are jealous haters acting in self-preservation. Why don’t we do a piece on all the things wrong with their companies? From false accounting, to corrupting our politicians, these people are the biggest hypocrites.

    STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary’s Cankle fluid. says:
    October 11, 2017 at 1:35 pm
    Here ya go suckers.

    https://www.wired.com/2016/03/teslas-electric-cars-might-not-green-think/

  105. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Mr. Koch, and how has your business jeopardized the life of our citizens, you know the one’s suffering from the pollution you profited off of? Thanks for socializing the expense, a-holes.

    “The groups are “jeopardizing tax reform,” the Koch-backed group said in a statement”

  106. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Koch…just another lobby.

  107. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Wired would hardly be the type of mag where I’d expect a hit piece from. But can’t argue with you.

  108. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The crap that comes out of their mouth! I wonder if they believe their own bs? Really can’t make this stuff up.

    Just a little tip, America deserves a business community that puts the health of society before the profits of shareholders. Oh, there I go again, talking crazy.

    “The unified vision the Trump administration and congressional leaders provides a once in a generation opportunity to un-rig the tax code of corporate welfare,” said James Davis, an executive vice president for the group. “Americans deserve a tax code that puts their interests ahead of special interests, and shining a light on this process is the best way to ensure they get one.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-11/koch-group-says-realtors-among-those-jeopardizing-tax-overhaul

  109. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Loss of property tax deduction will lower home prices. Koch’s are correct there.

  110. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Steam, and which group of people put the majority of their earnings into a house? So it’s okay to just take that tax deduction away AFTER THE FACT they bought this home with that tax deduction in mind? That’s why I bought my first property, to try and take advantage of the tax deduction since I was getting killed as a single male.

  111. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just leave the tax code the way it is. It’s unfair to pick winners and losers after these policies have been in place forever. And if you want to change it, change it across the board. Lower taxes for everyone, not the chosen.

  112. No One says:

    I notice that the Musk seat-sniffers get really upset when people try to puncture their reality-distortion bubbe.

  113. exjersey says:

    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

  114. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Generals gathered in their masses,
    Just like witches at black masses.
    Evil minds that plot destruction,
    Sorcerer of death’s construction.
    In the fields the bodies burning,
    As the war machine keeps turning.
    Death and hatred to mankind,
    Poisoning their brainwashed minds.
    Oh lord yeah!

    Politicians hide themselves away,
    They only started the war.
    Why should they go out to fight,
    They leave that role to the poor.*

    Yeah!

    Time will tell on their power mind, **
    Making war just for fun.
    Treating people just like pawns in chess,
    Wait till their judgement day comes.

    Yeah!

    Now in darkness world stops turning,
    Ashes where the bodies burning.
    No more war pigs have the power,
    Hand of God has struck the hour.
    Day of judgement God is calling,
    On their knees the war pig’s crawling.
    Begging mercy for their sins,
    Satan laughing spreads his wings.

    Oh lord yeah!

  115. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Funny how all the actors wait until Weinstein is fired before they start condemning him.

  116. abeiz says:

    Trumpito gung-ho behind this Napa fire thing. National guardo called in and everything. Puerto Rico gets towels and a few ill-fated prayers.

    It’s refreshing to see someone who doesn’t pretend to give a sh!t.

  117. abeiz says:

    BRT,
    Unionization has its benefits.
    I’d like to see you decimate your your district bosses’ careers while remaining under their employ, without much labor protection.

    Everyone has bills to pay.

  118. No One says:

    These lyrics are inspired by Pumpkin
    Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid
    Happier than you and me

    Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid
    And it determined what he could see

    Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid
    One chromosome too many

    Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid
    And it determined what he could see

    And he wore a hat
    And he had a job
    And he brought home the bacon
    So that no one knew

    He was a mongoloid

    Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid
    His friends were unaware

    Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid
    Nobody even cared

    Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid
    One chromosome too many

    Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid
    And it determined what he could see

    And he wore a hat
    And he had a job
    And he brought home the bacon
    So that no one knew

    He was a mongoloid

    Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid
    Happier than you and me

    Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid
    And it determined what he could see

    Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid
    One chromosome too many

    Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid
    And it determined what he could see

    And he wore a hat
    And he had a job
    And he brought home the bacon
    So that no one knew

    He was a mongoloid
    He was a mongoloid

  119. exjersey says:

    We’ve still got Ozzy. And Keef.

  120. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @gabrielsherman

    Steve Bannon has told people he thinks Trump has only a 30% chance of serving full term. My latest:

  121. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Unionization has its benefits.
    I’d like to see you decimate your your district bosses’ careers while remaining under their employ, without much labor protection.

    Everyone has bills to pay.

    First off, these people are all filthy rich. Second, I’m not the one thumbing my nose at people at public gatherings and in the media acting holier than thou while also publicly kissing the ass of a disgusting individual. Meanwhile, they all claim ignorance while all indicators point to the fact that this was common knowledge. These people are both hypocrites and gutless.

  122. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Steam, and which group of people put the majority of their earnings into a house? So it’s okay to just take that tax deduction away AFTER THE FACT they bought this home with that tax deduction in mind? That’s why I bought my first property, to try and take advantage of the tax deduction since I was getting killed as a single male.

    You were getting killed on taxes at age 19?

  123. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Fact: Elon Musk didn’t invent the electric car. He hasn’t changed anything yet. I’ll be impressed when he starts taking risks with his own money instead of mine.

  124. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @mattyglesias

    Typical trucker gets:

    — $0 from passthrough loophole.
    — $0 from estate tax repeal.
    — $0 from top rate cut.
    — $0 from corporate rate cut

  125. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So he has nothing to lose?

    If you are referring to subsidies, don’t just attack him, what about all the bailouts in 2008 caused by wall st greed, because they once again demonstrated how they will act under a reduced regulatory environment….that’s right, almost took the entire ship down. Musk has done nothing like this, so tell the hypocrits to stop throwing rocks while living in a glass house.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    October 11, 2017 at 6:25 pm
    Fact: Elon Musk didn’t invent the electric car. He hasn’t changed anything yet. I’ll be impressed when he starts taking risks with his own money instead of mine.

  126. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Big time! I was working lots of overtime at the post office. 70-80 hours a week.

    “You were getting killed on taxes at age 19?”

  127. grim says:

    So what business tax loopholes will be closed?

  128. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    If you are referring to subsidies, don’t just attack him, what about all the bailouts in 2008 caused by wall st greed, because they once again demonstrated how they will act under a reduced regulatory environment….that’s right, almost took the entire ship down. Musk has done nothing like this, so tell the hypocrits to stop throwing rocks while living in a glass house.

    Go back to this blog during the bailout. 100% against it from the get go. Besides, that has nothing to do with the fact that he’s on the public teet. Stop deflecting to a different topic.

  129. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Hey anon, ask Matty Yglesias how Argentina is doing since he was such a big fan of their policies.

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  131. 3b says:

    Eliminate the property tax deduction and like Stu says it will lower house prices. Good for the next generation that might want to buy. It also will control reckless spending and lead to consolidation . I don’t see what the problem is .

  132. 3b says:

    Grim get rid of business tax loop holes too but won’t happen. So perhaps something is better than nothing.

  133. 3b says:

    We were all against the bailout in 2008 but wall street were not the only villains.

  134. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @mattyglesias

    Look, the white working class wanted people who inherit large real estate fortunes to get a tax cut.
    Get out of the bubble.

  135. 3b says:

    No state will ever be allowed to secede. That issue was settled 150 odd years ago. We should combine states though.

  136. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Says the individual with no skin in the game.

    Funny, accuse me of being optimistic with my real estate expectations for our area, but here you are in self preservation mode.

    3b says:
    October 11, 2017 at 8:25 pm
    Eliminate the property tax deduction and like Stu says it will lower house prices. Good for the next generation that might want to buy. It also will control reckless spending and lead to consolidation . I don’t see what the problem is .

  137. The Great Pumpkin says:

    *expectations for our area based on owning in Wayne.

  138. grim says:

    You guys have lost your mind.

    SpaceX launched a USED Falcon 9 rocket into space today, dropped off an Echostar satellite, and landed back on a barge in the ocean for a second time. They’ve now made 18 successful landings, 3 successful relaunches, so now begins the new era of reusable launch stages, significantly reducing the barrier to space. They have managed to do something that NASA has been unable to do.

    Once they get reuse locked down, they will be untouchable, and it will unleash a new wave of wireless innovation, scientific discovery, climate science, etc etc etc.

  139. Fabius Maximus says:

    Go Cory!

    I am trying hard to think of any T nominee outside of the defense guys and Nikki Hayley that was a good nominee for the country!

    https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/1738032556228227/

  140. 3b says:

    Who said I have no stake in the game? And I would not value something simply based on a tax deduction.

  141. 3b says:

    Fab what exactly has Cory done? He comes from a well to do African-American family in a leafy Bergen co town who pretends he has street cred and is keeping it real. And was he not Mayor of Newark for a while? I am more Black then Cory grew up in the city had Black neighbors Black school mates. He is just another poser like Obama was.

  142. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Listen, he’s doing good things for society. You can’t put a cost on that. You have bunch of private investors believing in him? So why is it wrong for the govt to do the same? I think the investments in him were worth every penny. He made complacent industries scramble, and that’s priceless.

    “Go back to this blog during the bailout. 100% against it from the get go. Besides, that has nothing to do with the fact that he’s on the public teet. Stop deflecting to a different topic.”

  143. Fabius Maximus says:

    ” Battery tech is questionable as energy required to produce and toxicity of elements required (as well as required disposal of non-recyclable elements) do not offset CO output of ICE. ”

    We had that arguement 10 years ago with the Prius. Yet still we have 90% of the Prius’s from the past 10 years still on the road. There is a place in Fair Lawn that will refurbish any batteries they can get a hold of. Small mom and pop operation, but they corners the niche market in the US.

    I give Tesla credit. They put cars on the street against all the opposition. The model S is a success. And the chargers are poping up everywhere.

    If you want to EV bash, have a go at the Chevy Volt.

  144. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just try and put a cost on what Musk has done. He understood before anyone else that solar and the storage of this energy was one of the keys to human survival. Fossil fuels are being used up, solar energy is coming of age.

  145. Fabius Maximus says:

    3b
    “what exactly has Cory done?”, “He comes from ..”

    What relevance does that have here outside another standard ad hominem attack. Attack the argument not the person.

  146. grim says:

    Oh yeah, and two days ago SpaceX launched 10 new Iridium satellites into space and stuck that landing too. Two major launches in 3 days, and doing it at a fraction of the cost of anyone else.

  147. 3b says:

    The argument does not matter. They all say what they are going to say and it sounds great. My contention with him is how he portrays himself he is just another empty politician like the former President was pretending and portraying to be something he is not.

  148. Fabius Maximus says:

    “The argument does not matter.”

    Let me get this straight. The questions this guy is being asked to see if he is fit to lead the EPA are irrelevant, because its Cory asking the questions?

  149. 3b says:

    Of course he is not fit he is one of Trumps worst choices. Trouble is I don’t think Cory Booker is either. Booker is asking the question for Booker not necessarily because he cares but because it makes him look good. Of course the same could be said of many. I have a particular dislike of Booker because of how he falsely portrays himself same as the former President.

  150. abeiz says:

    You mean the Bolt, not the Volt, right? Oh, you didn’t know Chevy made a Bolt that is capable of a 228 range?

    I lived with a BMW i3 for three days. EV’s are a lot of fun!

  151. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Well, of course everybody can’t win at this game, I mean, on average, it’s going to average out. There is that hope that springs eternal within the human breast, as somebody once said, that you’re going to be ahead of the game.
    Now, what that means is, if you are trying to beat the game, you’ve got to be against the consensus. It doesn’t mean that you simply are a contrarian in a sense of, “whatever the consensus is, I’m going to take the opposite side.” No, no. ‘Cause there’s times the consensus can be right, and often is.”

    Gary Shilling explains the only way to beat the market — bet against the consensus and win – Business Insider
    https://apple.news/A7dP2EeV_QpGiiNk9P5RzPQ

  152. Fabius Maximus says:

    So the questions this guy is being asked to see if he is fit to lead the EPA are irrelevant, because Cory is self serving?

  153. Juice Box says:

    Space X = good stuff, however them calling out ULA for government subsidies?

  154. Phoenix says:

    Bolt is slow to charge, 50kw limit.

  155. Fabius Maximus says:

    abeiz,

    No I meant the Volt.

    http://gm-volt.com/2008/11/24/gm-voltcom-viability-plan-suggestion-massive-government-fleet-sales-of-battery-warranty-free-chevy-volts/

    I am all for EV’s if you can make them work for you. Our host here ran and EV for a year. If you have a 5 mile commute to work it makes sense. For Real life, maybe not.

    I am all for EV’s, but I realize the practicalities. For the record I drive a 10yo Prius that has 170K miles that I have owned from new.

  156. grim says:

    200 mile range makes EVs a usable choice for a large portion of the population.

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