Clifton For The Win

From the NY Times:

Clifton, N.J.: Where a Lot of Little Worlds Commingle

Clifton, in southern Passaic County, is an unpretentious, predominantly middle-class city of 85,000, crisscrossed by highways, two of which — the Garden State Parkway and Route 46 — intersect twice within its 11½ square miles. Framed on the west by a wooded mountain and on the east by the Passaic River, the city has pockets of both industry and agriculture (three tiny farms that survived the postwar development boom).

The population is as varied as the landscape. The personal finance website WalletHub this year ranked Clifton the 25th most culturally diverse city in the United States and No. 3 in linguistic diversity. The latter distinction jibes with local officials’ finding that more than 70 languages are spoken in the homes of public school students.

“There are a lot of little worlds, religiously, ethnically and locational-ly, that thrive in Clifton, yet they’re all happy to be part of the total picture,” said Ernest J. Scheidemann, a local real estate and insurance agent and lifelong resident. The spirit of acceptance was famously demonstrated three years ago when the Clifton High School senior class selected a Muslim student who wore a hijab as its best-dressed female student.

For residents, the ethnic diversity is a selling point, even if some were initially unaware of it. Jason Chuon, who bought a $380,000 expanded Cape Cod after being uprooted from Staten Island by Hurricane Sandy, said he was worried that his Asian-American family might stand out. That was not the case in a town with vibrant Hispanic, Middle Eastern, Asian and Eastern European communities.

“We have friends here who are Muslim, Hispanic, you name it,” said Mr. Chuon, a 38-year-old online marketer. “There’s a Colombian guy on one side of me, a Polish lady on the other. Everyone’s trying to just make a living and better themselves. I tell my friends and family in New York, ‘You’ve got to check out this place.’”

“At the low-end, you can pick up a small one-family house in the $250,000 to $300,000 range in areas bordering Paterson and Passaic, and at the high end, you might find a million-dollar home in Montclair Heights,” said Nicholas Tselepis, broker-owner of the Nicholas Real Estate Agency in Clifton. Mr. Tselepis noted that Clifton’s accessibility and relative affordability appeal to buyers from New York City.

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45 Responses to Clifton For The Win

  1. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Good sewers I hear. Frist.

  2. grim says:

    I think automatically opting people in to an organ donor plan would be illegal. Donating organ is most likely against a few religions guiding principles.

    They can opt-out if they would like, how is this an issue?

  3. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Uh, I don’t think being a “linguistic diversity” leader is a great thing. I think that’s a euphemism for “a sh1tload of people who don’t speak English”.

    When I look at the data ranked by that metric it seems like a mix of major metropolises (NY, LA, Anaheim, San Francisco) and ex-manufacturing towns that are well past their heyday (Lynn and Lowell in MA, Danbury, Bridgeport, and New Britain in CT etc.). Jersey City is number 1, I guess you could go either way on whether linguistic diversity is a good thing there. Maybe the up and coming towns would be the ones that are dropping in “linguistic diversity” year over year?

    The personal finance website WalletHub this year ranked Clifton the 25th most culturally diverse city in the United States and No. 3 in linguistic diversity.

  4. 3b says:

    We have tickets for drop kick /flogging with my kids at Asbury. Of course both of these bands were influenced by the original Celtic punk rock reggae band Black 47.

  5. 3b says:

    Since yesterday’s discussion ended in a debacle unfortunately like so many do here lately I promise I won’t bring up the suburban/urban debate again.

  6. grim says:

    I make it a point to highlight the diversity of Clifton relative to Montclair all the time.

    Montclair bills itself as being the most diverse and inclusive, except that’s a load of bullshit, it’s one of the most socioeconomically segregated towns in NJ.

  7. Ex-Jersey says:

    Front page NY Times….more people dyin in the burbs than being born.

  8. Juice Box says:

    3b – I used to spend time at Paddy Rielly’s on 29th st, Black 47 would regularly pack the place for a great night of music.

  9. grim says:

    From the NYT:

    Why Outer Suburbs in the East and Midwest Have Stopped Booming

    Hunterdon County, N.J., is rich. It ranks sixth nationally among counties in median household income, and has for decades exemplified the American outer-ring suburb.

    But in one crucial measure, this exurban enclave 60 miles west of Manhattan resembles old mill communities in northern New England or impoverished regions of Appalachia. The measure is death as compared to birth, otherwise known by demographers as “natural increase.” In this case, it’s negative.

    Hunterdon County residents gave birth to 3,590 babies between 2013 and 2016. But even more residents — 3,647 — died. Go back to a four-year period two decades earlier: 5,882 births, 2,947 deaths.

    Some American communities that until recently were considered demographic boom towns are now caught up in a downward demographic mix: young people having fewer children, the boomer generation getting older. And migration patterns, stalled by the recession, are resuming, but only in certain parts of the country.

    Through 2016, about one in four outer-ring suburbs were experiencing more deaths than births, including 18 of 30 such counties in New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

    Some of the once-fastest-growing counties in the United States are growing no more, and nationwide, the birthrate has dropped to levels not seen since the Great Depression.

    “It is one of the biggest puzzles of my career as a demographer,” said Kenneth Johnson, a sociologist at the University of New Hampshire who has studied the various components of population change for years. “Each year when new data comes out, I expect to see a significant uptick in births, but I have yet to see it.”

    In many areas, young people, besides having fewer children, are not as enamored of the suburbs as previous younger generations. This is especially true in cities experiencing urban revivals like New York.

    “Millennials don’t want to be in outer suburbia,” said James W. Hughes, the emeritus dean of the Edward J. Bloustein School of Planning and Public Policy at Rutgers University.

    Whereas previous generations of young couples streamed ever farther out to the suburbs in search of larger lots and lower taxes, the current crop prefers Brooklyn, Jersey City and other locales close to the urban core.

    Perhaps the largest symbol of Hunterdon County’s shifting demographics, Mr. Hughes said, is the million-square-foot hexagonal office building that lies abandoned in the county’s lush woodlands. Merck erected the environmentally friendly facility on 460 acres with much publicity in the early 1990s, only to pull up stakes 20 years later and move back to the suburbs’ inner ring.

  10. grim says:

    Really good piece, missed it earlier this week.

  11. chicagofinance says:

    Plus you don’t have to intermingle with horned Jews…….

    Fabius Maximus says:
    March 23, 2018 at 5:02 pm
    And I will always take a commute in my own car vs cramming onto public transport. It doesn’t smell and I’m guaranteed a seat.

  12. chicagofinance says:

    My reaction to first hearing Elizabeth Warren speak echoed so much the first time I heard Bill Frist and Nancy Pelosi. I read a very reverential discussion of the person’s history, the intelligence, integrity and hope for an impact in the political realm. Then I saw them speak, and it was immediate “…..just another double-talking political hack….”

    Fabius Maximus says:
    March 23, 2018 at 5:43 pm
    Elizabeth Warren is the on beacon of unwavering common sense. I hope she runs in 2020.

  13. chicagofinance says:

    At least with Chuck Schumer I figured it out the other way. I heard him speak, and subsequently followed him through time. He is one of the few that I disagree with how he conducts himself, but I respect his intellect.

  14. chicagofinance says:

    Warren is so calculated.

  15. chicagofinance says:

    I think the reason the reprehensible “Pochahontas” mon!ker works is because she really is a slime, and the lying on the Law School Application is a window into her character.

  16. chicagofinance says:

    Why is “mon!ker” verboten?

  17. The Great Pumpkin says:
  18. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Great lead article on Clifton. Place is going to one day be worth a lot of money due to its awesome location.

  19. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Holy shi!, Clifton has a billionaire?!

    Tepper left and billionaire list grew from 6 to 9. Sky still falling?

    Shouldn’t you be screaming that inequality just got bigger?

  20. Grim says:

    Comodo’s office is on Broad Street.

  21. 3b says:

    Juice Black 47th is on of my favorites they retired in 2014,25 years to the day they were formed. We saw their last show in BB Kings, great night!! Saw the Prodigal s last week at Paddy Reillys . Excellent!!

  22. Juice Box says:

    Ah the winter the gift that keeps on giving. The snow is finally melting and the weight of the heavy wet snow from Thursday ripped my pool cover. Going to have to duct tape for now until I an remove it in May…..

  23. Mike S says:

    That NYT article is what i’ve been saying for a few years

  24. Ex-Jersey says:

    Everything dies baby that’s a fact…

  25. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Impact? Screaming that people are moving to nj locations….aka demand is switching in the market. They peaked, now the growth spreads to outliers in the hunt for value. Nyc had a hell of a run, but it’s balancing time. When something becomes too expensive, people look in the town over that didn’t have the same run up. Lemmings jump on the value train, and drive up those towns, now the next outliers see the largest growth, till it all crashes.

  26. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The Next Housing Crisis: A Historic Shortage of New Homes – The Wall Street Journal

  27. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Bob Snowden, a home builder in the Grand Rapids, Mich., area thinks he understands what’s happening. He says he gets calls practically every day from families in the thriving western Michigan city asking him to build them a new home. He ends up turning most of them down.
    Demand for housing is stronger than he has ever seen, he says, but land and construction costs have roughly doubled since the end of the last boom a decade ago.
    So Mr. Snowden has shifted his focus from starter and midprice houses to high-end properties, where the profit margins are fatter. His production has dropped from roughly 25 homes a year in the mid-2000s to about a dozen, he says.
    Hardly any entry-level homes are going up in town, he says. “If I was a young couple today, unless you’re making really good money, what are your options,” he says, “short of moving into a $1,000 a month apartment”—an expensive proposition in this part of the country.“

  28. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Ms. Black has been renting a loft downtown, which she says feels like “bundling a $1,500 wad of money and throwing it out the window every month.” She has about $25,000 in savings, but every month the balance dwindles.“

  29. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Todd Peuler was hired 3½ years ago as a recruiter for Michigan building supplier Fox Brothers Co., a subsidiary of Beacon Roofing Supply Inc. Mr. Peuler says it takes about twice as long to build a house as it did in the past because of lag time waiting to find workers to complete tasks.
    Sometimes, he says, clients are expecting to move in, but a house is still wrapped in plastic because workers are needed to put on siding.
    “The workforce is in their 50s and 60s. They’re retiring and there’s no new bloodline coming in,” he says. “We didn’t get in this situation overnight, and it could take years to get out.”

  30. The Great Pumpkin says:

    All I know is god bless realtors in this market. Sales volume doesn’t allow for much feeding.

  31. leftwing says:

    Democrat Party hits new low of exploitation.

    They parade out a nine-year old child to parrot words covering concepts a child of that age cannot fully process.

    Well done. Would not have expected less of you.

    Liberals use dead children to advance narrow political issues.

  32. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Pretty close so far, right? Keep in mind that the stock market was still on a tear when I wrote this:

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    January 22, 2018 at 2:59 pm
    ****Disclosure: Sheer conjecture on my part*****

    1. The US stock market will “correct”, as they say from maybe April until August or so.
    2. Dems will tout the end of the “Trump Economic Lie” during this period.
    3. The US stock market will turn back up in late August or early September.
    4. Dems get crushed in the mid-terms.
    5. More protests and violence isolated to cities that still want Hillary.

  33. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Here’s my next prediction on a yet to be used, buzz phrase?, talking point?, whatever you call it.

    The Left clearly owns “Hate Speech”, right?

    Trump will eventually come up with “Hate News”
    (MSM (Trump) Hate Speech + Fake News)

  34. leftwing says:

    I’m actually glad the Left continue to push hard. Have not seen this type MSM backing in a long time.

    Special elections reflect same. Need some time for backlash. I’d be concerned if elections were held today. Let the Left keep running with the rope, by November they’ll have it tangled around their own necks.

  35. leftwing says:

    I’ve watched the Sunday talk shows for decades. For the first time in as long as I can remember I actually turned off Face the Nation.

    If I wanted to listen to irrrational teenagers I would spend more time with my own.

    They have no argument, no reason. It was almost comical, even the host had difficulty framing the topic. Constantly made reference to “it” and “this” without ever defining it or any shred of discussion of the merits or likelihood of success of this amorphous “it”.

    Womens March funded all this, including the slick PR, the stages, the banners, etc. These poor kids are being exploited as well.

  36. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    It’s little used now, but #hatenews already exists on twitter, characterizing exactly what I thought it would. I guess I have to rescind the premise that I came up with it.

  37. Not Ex-Pat says:

    You are right with the stock market, but the political, well?.

    2 Big Issues with the market are – Trade Wars – Ideological future and “Real” real interest rates.

    Trade Wars – Will mean that Corporate America will produce less profits and will have to eat expenses as American are vis a vis poorer than they were. So Apple’s Iphone instead of yielding $600 +/- profit clean will have to yield $200-400, once tariff and manufacturing brought back to the US happens. They can try to raise prices, but Apple has found the top price for iphones. The X is not selling well with its $1-1.25k price.

    “Real” real interest rate is that since the mid 90’s and China’s absorption of our manufacturing abilities, there has not been a “True” marketplace driven interest rate. The Fed has been able to manipulate with impunity because suppressing the interest rate was China thru currency manipulation which required them to buy US Govt Debt. If China gets out of the buying/outright selling the US Treasury on top of the Trump recent budget bill/tax cut increase in federal debt. There is simply no one buying in the other side to suppress “True” rates. During the financial crisis QE, the Fed bought in gigantonomous amount, on top of all the trade exporters (mainly China/Japan) that kept buying to make sure they had a trade surplus with us.

    So less see. Corporate and Consumer America will soon start to face challenges more like the 60’s and 70’s in the cost of money side, along with a poorer, decreasing population ( a lot of less cheap labor immigrants) – Regardless of what pumpkin potato head says.

    By the way pumpkin potato head. Look at around NJ, the only place there is activity is where you have immigrants (not mexicans, but russian, indians, chinese, eastern europeans) speculators, contractors, etc betting or gambling circa 2006 with house flipping/renovations and they used to use illegal immigrant labor. Go outside of 287, like the NY Times article talks about, where is non-immigrant and the house trading business is shot.

  38. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Here’s my two step plan for dramatically reducing gun deaths in the US:

    1. Identify the mentally unhealthy and kill them; harvest their organs and tissue.
    2. Legalize all drugs as over the counter items, minimally taxed.

  39. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    11:25 NEP –

    The Fed is indeed in a box. But…is the answer really to stay in that box, importing more from a Communist country with a command economy than any other trading partner?

    I think the US has to find their way out of that box and China has to find their way out of a command economy. That can be accomplished either in a coordinated fashion or violent fashion (not necessarily military violent, could be economically violent).

    If a free and open economy is good, doesn’t someone have to take the lead when it comes to dealing with closed and imprisoned economies? Or are closed and imprisoned economies the global answer and we must bow down and subscribe?

  40. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ascribe? I get that one wrong sometimes.

  41. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Said another way, If the US economy is the most free and open economy…and there are no others…who wins? Isn’t it a little like us passing a giant basket of wealth around the globe, urging others to only take as much as they need?

  42. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Now lean the other way, supported by shale oil and deregulation, and ask this question:

    Could any other economy besides the US survive, in the short term, by cutting off all trade? I think the answer is no. The problem with that extreme premise is that we would be sowing the seeds for another world war as the rest of the globe crumbles into depression.

    I think the opposite of this is the globalist agenda. Just open up all borders and let corporations run the world. People will transport themselves to the work, governments fall, no more war, and we finally have RollerBall!

  43. Ex-Jersey says:

    10:51 Don’t hate the playa, hate the game. Now go get that mommy blogger ya’ll think makes soooo much sense. From the mouths of babes and some such ….

  44. Yo! says:

    #1 and #2 immigrant cities in first world are a Vancouver and Toronto. Massive house price growth in both places.

  45. Phoenix says:

    Grim can you have Leftwing PM me?

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