Short term looking good for NJ, long term? Ummm…

From the APP:

NJ jobs: Companies hiring, and this is why you’d better grab a job now

New Jersey employers are recruiting aggressively to fill job openings, but clouds are beginning to build, which could force them to temper their enthusiasm, a new economic report shows.

The U.S. Conference of Mayors report found an economy performing at its strongest level in a decade. But higher oil prices, rising interest rates and the fading impact of federal tax cuts could slam on the brakes for the Garden State.

The outlook was from the mayors’ annual  report that looked at data from 2017 and 2018 and forecasts through 2022. It was expected to be presented Friday at the mayors’ annual meeting in Boston.

New Jersey has been enjoying a rare dose of good economic news.

The suburban state, long hurt by the migration of the millennial generation to cities, has shown signs of life. The past year, it added 58,600 jobs. And its employment growth rate of 1.4 percent ranked 18th nationwide, beating its three neighbors, according to data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Employers appear to be in good spirits. A survey by the New Jersey Bankers Association found 42 percent said the state’s economic health is “good,” compared with 15 percent who said the same two years ago.

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103 Responses to Short term looking good for NJ, long term? Ummm…

  1. Yo! says:

    Employment market today is hottest since 1998. Everybody we try to hire has multiple, high quality offers. NJ office market still 20% vacant (Hoboken 3.5%). A negative sign for the suburbs.

  2. grim says:

    Unemployment by educational attainment, based on the last data (2017), at 2.5% for College Graduates, and at 2.o% and lower for Masters and Professional degrees.

    The last aggregate data has Bachelor’s degree and higher (above combined) sitting at 1.8% UE NSA for May 2018.

  3. Yo! says:

    World Cup final coming to Bergen County. Could help lease up at American Dream.

  4. Hold my beer says:

    Pumps,

    I found your wage inflation. In-N-Out burger in Texas pays its employees $12 an hour to start.

  5. grim says:

    Wage inflation in the low-tier wage states is real.

    Outsourcers nearing 100% capacity near and off-shore.

  6. Hold my beer says:

    Maybe that’s why the McDonald’s a few doors down now has order kiosks. That kiosk is actually easy to use. I tried the one at Panera’s and thought it was awful.

    Also national discount tire offers health benefits for its employees.

  7. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The McD’s at New Providence just put in kiosks. The first day, the seniors were all pissed. I haven’t seen them since. I wonder if it costs them business in the short run?

  8. grim says:

    Doubtful.

    You really spent that much time in McDonalds?

  9. homeboken says:

    BRT – The seniors come in to order the cheapest, smallest coffee on the menu and linger for hours. They are a cost center in every sense of the word. They will figure out the kiosks or they will find somewhere else to use as Heaven’s Waiting Room.

  10. Fast Eddie says:

    The seniors come in to order the cheapest, smallest coffee on the menu and linger for hours.

    They should go to Starsucks. Someone should let them know it’s a place to wash up and take a nap.

  11. 1987 Condo says:

    WFAN reports MetLife Stadium will host the 2026 World Cup finals

  12. Ex-Essex says:

    How many more fascists leader can our President ass-kiss….?

  13. grim says:

    On how many foreign dictators has traditional diplomacy been effective at removing weapons of mass destruction?

    Just saying.

    I mean, Iran clearly doesn’t give a shit, and that’s been managed by the playbook exactly.

    Sanctions don’t work, because most of our allies will just ignore them (China), or countries will just as easily operate in the black market. Hell, we need to force our allies to comply with our sanctions by threatening sanction on them.

    Middle East? Failure.
    Cuba? Failure.
    North Korea? Failure.

    It’s not so much ass kissing as it is abusive husband. Just yesterday he threatened nuclear annihilation, and now he is all lovey dove.

    Not to mention, what is the track record of diplomacy by committee and bureaucracy? Is an agreement more effective if it’s 1000 pages long, 3 years in the making, and having a dozen signatories? It’s still paper.

  14. grim says:

    By the way, the North Korea approach and outcome is negative for Trump’s base. They aren’t looking at this as a win, but a loss. Most of Trump’s base would strongly have preferred military action on the Korean peninsula. The fact that he bent to a foreign dictator looks weak to them. Don’t believe me? Ask a Korean War vet what they think. They were much happier when Trump was talking about raining fire and brimstone upon North Korea.

  15. Bystander says:

    Yo,

    In what area? I rely on investment projects and ‘change the bank’ strategies. It is a ghost town out there unless are willing to take $125k which is horsesh*t for NYC. I can’t get a recruiter to come with a legit paying job or even return a call. Not seeing it..oh, and yes I have my masters and now officially unemployed today.

  16. JCer says:

    Grim the NK strategy is good. Kim is like a big kid, he grew up in Switzerland, he is not accustomed to life in NK. He wants to maintain power, he wants to be a king, and he wants to have a legacy. I think Trump has made it abundantly clear his options are being locked out from the world, being poor and this will eventually lead to unrest and overthrow OR he can play ball and develop his economy, normalize relations with the rest of the world and be rich. Kim only cares about Kim and if he opens up he can live the lifestyle he want to live.

  17. Fast Eddie says:

    How many more fascists leader can our President ass-kiss….?

    Keep your friends close but you’re enemies closer.

  18. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Grim,

    That’s not the unions, that is the mob. Privatized organized crime….the worst form of corruption out there. Those guys getting those large salaries are giving a huge kickback to the mob outfit in charge.

    Mob=scumbags. Will shake down anything they can. Almost impossible to stop too.

  19. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You see that article I posted yesterday about your industry? It seems you are simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Messed up what’s happening.

    Bystander says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:40 am
    Yo,

    In what area? I rely on investment projects and ‘change the bank’ strategies. It is a ghost town out there unless are willing to take $125k which is horsesh*t for NYC. I can’t get a recruiter to come with a legit paying job or even return a call. Not seeing it..oh, and yes I have my masters and now officially unemployed today.

  20. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    My dad had two choices for garbage hauling when he owned a factory in Williamsburg Brooklyn in the 80s and 90s. He could use the city. With the sh1tty unreliable service, you would also have to bribe the city inspector who made sure you were not dumping anything illegal, which outside of a new clueless worker, was never done intentionally. And these inspectors would plant sh1t in the trucks anyway so they could be paid off to avoid huge fines. And by illegal waste, I mean normal stuff like batteries and steel and iron and copper. Mainly inert metals. Option two was mob hauling. It was significantly cheaper than the city. No inspectors. No bribes. And they even came on Christopher Columbus Day. They were reliable to the point of perfection.

    Chances are, the driver of that garbage truck got paid a hell of a lot better than the unionized brother did. The difference? The Wop didn’t pay nearly as much for the administration of his job as the poor unionized brother did. Hence, better service.

    Back on ignore. But not before I point out how my argument is not pro mob (who do a lot of horrible things to those who choose to use them for illegal activities) but anti-union.

  21. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Those kiosks are a gold mine. Often they don’t list the bargain menu, and you have nobody to ask == upsell.

    Maybe that’s why the McDonald’s a few doors down now has order kiosks. That kiosk is actually easy to use.

  22. grim says:

    Corrupt union boss no different from corrupt mayor.

    Both are in positions of power that allow for significant graft and patronage on someone else’s dime.

  23. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ^^^ could be why seniors are pissed.

  24. Bystander says:

    F-off Blump. Your day will come soon enough but you just won’t be woman enough to own up to it.

  25. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Wow.

    I knew the waterfront was corrupt. But not THIS corrupt. As one reads it, you keep saying to yourself, why hasn’t the government shut it down?

    All you need to see are these two paragraphs for the answer.

    In the past decade, $823,000 in donations large and small went across the state. In 2017 alone, the union contributed $253,175 in campaign donations—a considerable increase from years’ past, the ELEC reports show. Those funds included $35,000 checks that went out to the county Democratic committees in Essex, Mercer, Union and Bergen counties, and another $25,000 to the New Jersey Democratic State Committee that went out in September and November.

    “They certainly can flex muscle, through contributions and the relationships with some of the state lawmakers,” said Brigid Harrison, a political science professor at Montclair State University and a close observer of state politics. “My sense is that they are adept at cultivating their friends. They know who the power brokers are in the state.”

  26. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I don’t know if it still happens today, but seniors used to attend Tampa Bay Rays day games all the time. It was cheaper than running their own air conditioners.

    The seniors come in to order the cheapest, smallest coffee on the menu and linger for hours.

    They should go to Starsucks. Someone should let them know it’s a place to wash up and take a nap.

  27. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    And best of all, Christie tried to end the commission. Oh Christie was such a horrible man. He ended bump stocks too.

  28. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    It worked with Ghadaffi. He’d still be sitting pretty today if he didn’t make noises about selling oil for gold.

    On how many foreign dictators has traditional diplomacy been effective at removing weapons of mass destruction?

  29. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Seniors used to take the Atlantic City buses. They would pay $15, ride from Central Jersey down to AC. Once in AC, they would be handed two rolls of quarters and a meal voucher. They would eat their sandwich, sit on a bench on the boardwalk and would return home a few hours later up $25. I know many, many, many seniors who did this weekly.

  30. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Do you know how the mob works? You think these union leaders have a say in any of this? You do as you are told. That’s why politicians can’t stop them either.

    I seriously can’t believe you think the union is the problem and not the mob.

  31. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    This is exactly how I see it. I know if somebody came to me in my mid 30’s and told me I’d end up way richer, my people would be happier, and I wouldn’t have to assassinate relatives or make idle threats to superpowers anymore – I’d have gone for it.

    Grim the NK strategy is good. Kim is like a big kid, he grew up in Switzerland, he is not accustomed to life in NK. He wants to maintain power, he wants to be a king, and he wants to have a legacy. I think Trump has made it abundantly clear his options are being locked out from the world, being poor and this will eventually lead to unrest and overthrow OR he can play ball and develop his economy, normalize relations with the rest of the world and be rich. Kim only cares about Kim and if he opens up he can live the lifestyle he want to live.

  32. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m not an a$$hole, I wasn’t attacking you. Was trying to be empathetic and show some light on your industry.

    Bystander says:
    June 13, 2018 at 12:14 pm
    F-off Blump. Your day will come soon enough but you just won’t be woman enough to own up to it.

  33. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Sometimes, no matter how much you like killing people, there may be lower stress lifestyle alternatives. I guess this makes little sense to those who’ve decided the only life for them is one that starts and ends in NJ;-)

  34. Ottoman says:

    Your corporate masters thank you for being distracted by this nonsense and misdirecting your blame of high taxes and every other problem you have in this cruel world on the working class instead of where it truly belongs: the 1 percent.
    Typical moron.

    Without unions there would have never been a middle class. Full stop.

    grim says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:55 am
    Thank god for unions…

  35. Ottoman says:

    …And your p!ss tape securely in Putin’s bedroom wall safe.

    Fast Eddie says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:44 am
    How many more fascists leader can our President ass-kiss….?

    Keep your friends close but you’re enemies closer.

  36. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s almost impossible to stop. You can contain it, but it’s almost impossible to stop the mob.

    You are blaming the union, but tell me what union can get away this? Njea way more powerful union, but how come their members don’t see this kind of compensation? It’s bevause of the mob. They own the port.

    Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary’s Cankle fluid. says:
    June 13, 2018 at 12:14 pm
    Wow.

    I knew the waterfront was corrupt. But not THIS corrupt. As one reads it, you keep saying to yourself, why hasn’t the government shut it down?

  37. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    And with (public) unions there may never be a middle class again. Full moron.

    Without unions there would have never been a middle class. Full stop.

  38. Fast Eddie says:

    Hey Ottoman,

    Go get your f.ucking shine box!

  39. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “What would a country without labor unions look like? First, let’s be clear about labor’s role. The purpose of a labor union is to raise the standard of living of working people. That’s really all there is to it. It’s remarkably uncomplicated. By “standard of living” we mean wages, benefits and working conditions, all of which are acknowledged by federal labor law as legitimate topics of discussion for collective bargaining.

    Of course, anti-labor propagandists and disinformation purveyors like to pretend that unions are cesspools of greed, corruption and ineptitude, and that the only things they care about are consolidating power and collecting monthly membership dues. That’s the rancid version of unions they try to peddle. Unfortunately, many unsuspecting people actually believe it.”

  40. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Pretty soon there’ll be another one. Trump will whip it out, LBJ style, and give Jim Acosta an unexpected golden shower at some secluded press gaggle(also the sound Acosta will be making). Probably not until his second term, though.

    …And your p!ss tape securely in Putin’s bedroom wall safe.

  41. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Damn those unions for trying to raise the standard of living.

    Grim likes to point out the standard of living is dropping in America. Any correlation to the drop in union workers over the past 30 years?

  42. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Just like the full mass of all of Pump’s neurons.

    It’s remarkably uncomplicated.

  43. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You guys cry that you can’t get raises, but you bash unions. Makes a lot of sense.

  44. LurksMcGee says:

    Not sure if this has already been discussed, but saw this on MSN today:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/50-cities-americans-are-abandoning/ss-AAylK9V?li=BBnb7Kz#image=42

    NY/NNJ #10

  45. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    You are blaming the union, but tell me what union can get away this? Njea way more powerful union, but how come their members don’t see this kind of compensation? It’s bevause of the mob. They own the port.

    NJEA members who work at the state capital collect salaries of 600 – 900 k

  46. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Seattle caves. No tax on Amazon to aid local victims of its expansion (homeless, renters, etc.). A Billion $ corporation threatens the city and then successfully avoids the tax. Now, Seattle must choose: abandon poorest or tax workers to help them. This is how the 1% run their system.”

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/technology/seattle-tax-amazon.html

  47. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Amazon just shakes down the city like mob boss. In fact a mob boss wishes they had this kind of power.

  48. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “NJEA members who work at the state capital collect salaries of 600 – 900 k”

    Well at least they won’t apply to be longshoreman!

  49. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Uhh…no. Seattle shook down it’s city and Amazon said, “Us too? I don’t think so.”

    Amazon just shakes down the city like mob boss. In fact a mob boss wishes they had this kind of power.

  50. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    This was abominable. Good for Amazon. If you don’t know what they tried before the “head tax”, read up. It was also illegal.

    Less than a month after the Seattle City Council unanimously passed a “head tax” ordinance that would have levied a $275 per employee tax on Seattle businesses making more than $20 million a year, the same council voted to repeal that head tax Tuesday, in a 7-2 vote.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/06/how-amazon-helped-kill-a-seattle-tax-on-business/562736/

  51. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Expat,

    Please explain how you came to your conclusion? So the city of Seattle facing a ton of rising costs created by Anazon’s Business have no right to ask Amazon to help pay for the costs? Just put it on the worker, right? I said right?

  52. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Seattle’s attitude – “We want even more unemployed homeless to come to our fair city and we’re going to make those with jobs pay for that to happen because we’re going to skim a shitload off the top of that new revenue stream.”

  53. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Get mad at this, but no when a ceo is compensated 89 million in a single year. Says a lot.

    “NJEA members who work at the state capital collect salaries of 600 – 900 k”

  54. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What should the city do with the list of growing problems? Just ignore it? You make no sense.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    June 13, 2018 at 1:57 pm
    Seattle’s attitude – “We want even more unemployed homeless to come to our fair city and we’re going to make those with jobs pay for that to happen because we’re going to skim a shitload off the top of that new revenue stream.”

  55. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    CEO CEO CEO CEO. Everyone’s a CEO in the private sector.

  56. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Seattle attracted Californians who were fed up with their state. Now they want to lure the San Francisco and LA homeless to Seattle so the politicians can really cash in. The problem is the weather isn’t as nice in Seattle, so they need a pitch. The pitch is, “Hey, why live in a tent and poop on the sidewalk when we will be glad to make the “haves” pay for nice indoor toilets and bins to toss your used hypo needles in.” Just like Portland has the reputation of being the place where young people go to retire, Seattle wanted to become the destination hot spot for where homeless people go to retire.

  57. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You are a boomer, expat. I get your mindset. You are okay with amazon driving up the costs drastically in the city, not do anything about the costs for the time being, and when they come due, you cry the city govt is too expensive and move onto the next low cost city you suck dry.

  58. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    I can’t wait until the younger set realizes that Amazon is little more than the online version of Walmart.

  59. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Yet you still hear people — not just conservative pundits and free market fundamentalists, but regular working folks — blame the unions for our problems. It’s true. Regular working folks are now hostile to the only institution capable of representing their interests. How perverse is that?”

    Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary’s Cankle fluid. says:
    June 13, 2018 at 2:03 pm
    CEO CEO CEO CEO. Everyone’s a CEO in the private sector.

  60. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Personally I am just amused at whatever happens in the Pacific Northwest. There is no conservative involvement. It is literally the left fighting the far left. What’s happening in Seattle is liberals saying “No Mas!” to the progressives. To me it’s like street fight between the Patriots and the Red Sox. One team I hate has to lose, so I’m satisfied.

  61. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just think of the union impact long term.

    Did the fall of unions help reduce prices or increase profit?

    Did working conditions improve during the period of falling union membership?

    Has income inequality risen with the fall of unions?

    If gdp has risen significantly over this period, why haven’t wages? Significantly more money being made, but nothing going to wages….why?

  62. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    What I haven’t read explicitly, but I’m inferring, is that Seattle’s stupid “head tax” is actually a “hire tax”. $275 per hire (they originally wanted $500). If a guy has two or three jobs, which company pays? I’m assuming all of them. If somebody switches jobs three times in a year, which company pays? I’m assuming all of them. Somebody quits in week one, how much does that employer pay? I’m assuming full boat. I don’t see any way that it isn’t injurious to the local economy.

  63. The Great Pumpkin says:

    If businesses are making significantly more money, paying the lowest tax rate ever, and still not raising wages…..what does that tell you? People are being played and they would be smart to form a bloc of workers to fight back, or they can just sit here and blame unions, govt, or whatever bogey man they want, and go nowhere, but down.

  64. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ^^^ That’s why the liberal employers were amenable to an income tax, but their state constitution, it was found out, makes such a city tax illegal. This would have been true Mafia like if it went through, “F.uck you! Pay me!’

  65. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Unions are powerless!!!

    Our government is owned by business.

    You will see the power of the union when NJ begs the government for a bailout and doesn’t get it.

    Makes little difference to me. I’ll be in Mal Pais.

  66. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Maybe if Amazon put on their big boy pants, stepped up to the plate, and took ownership in the costs they have put upon that city, govt officials wouldn’t have to sit here and come up with taxes like this to address the problems.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    June 13, 2018 at 2:26 pm
    What I haven’t read explicitly, but I’m inferring, is that Seattle’s stupid “head tax” is actually a “hire tax”. $275 per hire (they originally wanted $500). If a guy has two or three jobs, which company pays? I’m assuming all of them. If somebody switches jobs three times in a year, which company pays? I’m assuming all of them. Somebody quits in week one, how much does that employer pay? I’m assuming full boat. I don’t see any way that it isn’t injurious to the local economy.

  67. 3b says:

    Pumps there are very few unions left in the private sector and none as far as I know for white collar workers or what used to be called white collar workers. Yet there are unions in the public sector with excellent pensions and golden benefits and they want more! That’s why people are pissed!!

  68. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Maybe I’ll rent this place for the last week in August?

    https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1034825

  69. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, because through years of propaganda, they were able to convince workers that unions were against their own interest. Rather brilliant!

    Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary’s Cankle fluid. says:
    June 13, 2018 at 2:31 pm
    Unions are powerless!!!

  70. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I saw a headline that google workers were trying to form a union. I’ll try to find it when I get a chance.

    3b says:
    June 13, 2018 at 2:33 pm
    Pumps there are very few unions left in the private sector and none as far as I know for white collar workers or what used to be called white collar workers. Yet there are unions in the public sector with excellent pensions and golden benefits and they want more! That’s why people are pissed!!

  71. Juice Box says:

    re: Tard “Maybe I’ll rent this place”

    Sure if you like to be in a rain forest in August, and getting eaten alive by swarms of mosquitos.

    Why not this hilltop place? King of the world for $259 a night, even has ATVs……

    https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/380808?

  72. Juice Box says:

    more bad news for TESLA.

    “Tesla has ended a partnership with Home Depot to put branded solar panel and battery shops into 800 Home Depot stores this year, according to a memo to Tesla employees from CEO Elon Musk”

  73. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Dickhead – use your last half a brain cell. If Amazon put “costs” on the city, the city would be more than happy to see them leave.

    Maybe if Amazon put on their big boy pants, stepped up to the plate, and took ownership in the costs they have put upon that city, govt officials wouldn’t have to sit here and come up with taxes like this to address the problems.

  74. Provocateur says:

    Unions themselves can be ok or not ok. What makes unions bad in most US states is the special legal privileges and protections given them, which imposes force on employers in how they can deal with unions, and which tilts power to the unions beyond what market forces would allow.

    I worked in a union for three years. The contract they got and wanted totally rewarded longevity over productiveness. Which basically meant insider “lifers” were favored, while the more productive newbies would come, do most of the work, and then leave for places where merit rather than tenure was rewarded. The end result was a place where the least competent, least productive “lifers” were paid the most, and couldn’t be fired. The company couldn’t fire them individually, so eventually they just shut down the whole fading division.

  75. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Juice? You think I’m in a Union? That would be 1250 a week. The one I picked will be $500. :P

  76. grim says:

    “Tesla has ended a partnership with Home Depot to put branded solar panel and battery shops into 800 Home Depot stores this year, according to a memo to Tesla employees from CEO Elon Musk”

    The Tesla solar roof came with an astronomical price tag. Easily north of $50k on an average house.

    Have you ever been approached by a sales person in Home Depot, they can barely sell an air conditioner or hot water heater replacement with their “Hi, are you interested” tactic, let alone a $50k (without battery) solar install.

    Tesla would have an easier time selling the solar panels and batteries out of the Tesla dealership, that’s the right environment, vibe, and level of sales experience necessary.

  77. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    Here, but make no doubt about it, the article is a propaganda piece against unions.

    “In the past, unions organized primarily around working conditions and compensation,” Asaro said. “But why not now demand a say in the direction of the company? Sure, in some sense these are a privileged set of workers but that doesn’t mean they are not still workers. Why should they allow a small group of C-suite executives make these ethical decisions when it has to be implemented by workers anyway?”

    The idea of organizing a tech workers union has been around awhile, but up to now hasn’t gone far. What remains to be seen is whether Google’s protest inspires others to act.

    “We stood up because we believe workers should have a voice,” said the former Googler who spoke to Jacobin. “We stood up because we believe that companies should be accountable to their users, their workers, and their communities. And we stood up because we believe a strong ethical framework that values human life and safety is inseparable from positive technological progress.”

    http://www.businessinsider.com/google-employees-earn-200000-but-some-still-want-to-unionize-2018-6

  78. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Considering I have paid over 15 k in Union dues, yes I get mad. I don’t care what the apple c o makes. I choose not to buy his products.

  79. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The same thing happens without unions. You are telling me the most productive workers always get rewarded? Hell no. I’ve seen guys get milked to no end, just because they don’t know how to stick up for themselves. I have seen it in every single workplace I have worked in my life…never fails.

    Provocateur says:
    June 13, 2018 at 2:54 pm
    Unions themselves can be ok or not ok. What makes unions bad in most US states is the special legal privileges and protections given them, which imposes force on employers in how they can deal with unions, and which tilts power to the unions beyond what market forces would allow.

    I worked in a union for three years. The contract they got and wanted totally rewarded longevity over productiveness. Which basically meant insider “lifers” were favored, while the more productive newbies would come, do most of the work, and then leave for places where merit rather than tenure was rewarded. The end result was a place where the least competent, least productive “lifers” were paid the most, and couldn’t be fired. The company couldn’t fire them individually, so eventually they just shut down the whole fading division.

  80. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just obnoxious, you clearly don’t get it.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    June 13, 2018 at 2:43 pm
    Dickhead – use your last half a brain cell. If Amazon put “costs” on the city, the city would be more than happy to see them leave.

  81. Trick says:

    Guy I work with ordered the Tesla solar panels, install is delayed do to a lack of batteries.

  82. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Unions suppress the salaries of productive workers. What experience do you have in a union?

  83. Juice Box says:

    re: Lib – “Juice? You think I’m in a Union? That would be 1250 a week. The one I picked will be $500.”

    I thought you were the price line negotiator aka Captain Cheapo? Negotiate down to $200 a night including the SUVs. Heck cleaning service too.

  84. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Ha ha. We’ll figure it out as we get closer. When by myself, I’m personally happy in a $16/night place that has AC. They all have pools. I might bring the boys along with me so they can start learning the culture so I may have to up the amount.

  85. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Love those AVERAGE police salaries. But it’s the CEOs! It’s the CEOs!

  86. grim says:

    30 year up to 4.7%, 11+ year high.

  87. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You honestly believe that absent a union, the most productive workers make the most money? Honestly, you really believe this? I wish the world was as fair as you make it out to be.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    June 13, 2018 at 3:29 pm
    Unions suppress the salaries of productive workers. What experience do you have in a union?

  88. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And you honestly think you would be better off without a union? Open your eyes, you have a strong union and they still beat up your profession over the past 10 years. Imagine how bad it would be without a union.

    First thing they would do to your profession if it was not unionized is get rid of the requirements for a license and higher education. Then they would flood your job with worthless applicants and basically pay you nothing. Our education system would be destroyed in a few years by losers lining up to make 40,000 a year. Good teachers would be replaced by substitutes over night. Rich kids will go to elite private schools where they have real teachers, and the gap between rich and poor will expand as the poor kids have almost no chance to move up the ladder due to lack of opportunity that comes with being taught by unlicensed 40,000 dollar salaried employees with no benefits.

  89. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “30 year up to 4.7%, 11+ year high.”

    Poor poor millenials. And with the metal tariffs so high, there’s no way they can afford to purchase a cool RV.

  90. 3b says:

    Lib/Grim should get interesting when rates go to 5 percent!

  91. grim says:

    If next quarter gdp comes in hot, 5% is easy.

  92. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Most of us here are held back by our formal education, ability to interpret statistics, and critical thinking skills Pumps. It must be great to be free of all those mental chains like you are. Go U of Nana !

    Just obnoxious, you clearly don’t get it.

  93. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Yeah pumpkin, I’m sure your scenario is plausible. The town flips out if the school drops 1 spot on Newsweek ranking. It’s not going to happen. Tell me one accomplishment of the Njea central.office the past ten years. You can’t.

  94. Libturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    I think they designed a new logo.

  95. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    LOL!

  96. 3b says:

    Grim yes it does.

  97. Ex-Essex says:

    Teaching was great for the boomers they saw to it. Going forward barring any large scale worker unrest leading to better pay might help but the golden years of that profession are in the rear view.

  98. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    What’s Macron’s problem? Italy doesn’t want open borders. France and Germany can keep theirs open as long as they want.

    https://news.sky.com/story/tensions-flare-as-macron-criticises-italy-for-turning-away-migrant-ship-11404101

  99. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ^^^ btw, Quentin Tarantino wrote that before he was famous. Watch this scene, followed by the Hateful Eight and you’ll see decades of a theme he likes…a lot.

    It just sprang to mind because Italy didn’t want to be invaded more, well you know.

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