Slowing in LI, or still strong?

From Newsday:

LI home prices rise, but sales slow and inventory grows, report shows

Long Island home prices kept rising as the spring selling season got underway last month, but the pace of sales slowed and inventory is on the rise.

In Suffolk County, homes sold for a median price of $372,875 in March, up 5.9 percent from a year earlier, the Multiple Listing Service of Long Island reported Thursday. Nassau County’s median home price increased by 3.4 percent annually, to $517,000.

The number of closed home sales fell year-over-year by 5.8 percent in Suffolk and 8.8 percent in Nassau, the listing service reported. However, in a sign that the market could get stronger in the coming months, the number of contract signings jumped by more than 10 percent in Suffolk and ticked up by 1.4 percent in Nassau, compared with the previous March.

Demand is strong for homes in the $400,000 to $600,000 price range, said Russ Bonanno, a real estate agent with Bon Anno Real Estate in Massapequa who handles home sales from western Nassau through Dix Hills and Commack in Suffolk.

In that price range, he said, “it’s a very competitive environment out there for buyers. There’s a lot of very serious and very qualified buyers out there.” A home listed for $549,000 in North Bellmore recently went under contract four days after it was listed, with 17 competing offers, he said.

A strong economy, low unemployment and affordable mortgage rates are driving buyers’ enthusiasm, Bonanno said. The average mortgage rate was 4.12 percent this week, 0.3 percentage points lower than a year ago, mortgage giant Freddie Mac reported Thursday.

The market is less competitive for more expensive homes, Bonanno said: “As you go up in price, the buyer pool does shrink a bit.”

Asking prices hit a median $519,000 in Suffolk, 8 percent higher than the previous March, and $689,000 in Nassau, up 6 percent from a year earlier, listing service figures show.

The number of homes listed for sale grew year-over-year by 22 percent in Nassau and 7.2 percent in Suffolk, according to listing service figures. At the current pace of sales, it would take a little more than six months to sell all the homes listed for sale in Nassau and Suffolk. Brokers say a balanced market has a six- to eight-month supply of homes.

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145 Responses to Slowing in LI, or still strong?

  1. Yo! says:

    LI still strong. One of few places in country where housing market is getting hotter. Brooklyn and Queens have added 900,000 people since 1980 and when they go to buy a house, they look in Nassau and Suffolk. Huge pool of pent up demand will support Nassau and Suffolk for years.

    Won’t last forever though. Brooklyn and Queens population has stopped growing.

  2. grim says:

    They’ve got the measles there too.

  3. chicagofinance says:

    Kings and Queens are not Long Island dumba$$…. spoken like a Hudson County realtor(R)…..

    Yo! says:
    April 17, 2019 at 7:17 am
    LI still strong. One of few places in country where housing market is getting hotter. Brooklyn and Queens have added 900,000 people since 1980 and when they go to buy a house, they look in Nassau and Suffolk. Huge pool of pent up demand will support Nassau and Suffolk for years.

    Won’t last forever though. Brooklyn and Queens population has stopped growing.

  4. Yo! says:

    Chofu I define LI as Nassau and Suffolk, just as Newsday does.

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  6. Libturd, can't say I didn't warn you. says:

    Where Nassau County begins and New York City ends is moving further east by the day. When we were kids, we used to shop for most of our clothes in Alexander’s on 27 (Sunrise Hwy) in Valley Stream.

    It’s a Target now.

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    Grim – Saw the EDI story. Really unbelievable. I guess he needs more spots for more of his campaign helpers and their immediate families.

    D’s got the flu and I was forced to paper file my FED, NY and NJ taxes since Gator’s company messed up and sent her a NJ and NY W2. What a royal pain in the ass. Don’t worry Trumplova. I wasn’t ornery due to the amount of my taxes. Just disgusted by your silly, silly posts.

    Gator Jr., made his hockey team on night one of tryouts. I doubt they lose a game at tier II since they really should be competing in tier I. Of course, no tier I teams will play us since they’re afraid they’ll lose to us. At least there are districts to look forward to this year. He tries out for NJ development camp next weekend. Will be interesting to see how he stacks up against the area’s best defensemen.

  7. Bruiser says:

    chicagofinance, 8:47 am
    “Kings and Queens are not Long Island dumba$$…. spoken like a Hudson County realtor(R)…..”

    When residents of Brooklyn and Queens want to buy a house, they buy in Nassau and Suffolk. They don’t go to that faraway scary place known as New Jersey. The guy who bought my parents’ house in western Nassau was “thrilled to buy in such a safe neighborhood” and paid cash. My parents couldn’t wait to get out of that sh*thole town because of how quickly it went downhill. Everything is relative I guess.

  8. ExEssex says:

    Youth hockey was the best! I learned to skate at 5 years-old.
    Moment of glory – I played goalie one game (usually a defenseman) and scored ! A shot from center ice. They moved me ‘up’ a div. the next day.

  9. Libturd, can't say I didn't warn you. says:

    There’s no more moving up. Which I agree with, ya braggard.

    I don’t want the glory of my son’s hockey prowess. Just a discount on college. Sadly, I can’t and won’t force him to play Tier I, even though that’s where he belongs. He claims he won’t regret it later in life. He’s probably wrong. It just becomes more painful every year as he continues to develop.

  10. leftwing says:

    Lib, do not look at any discount at any college from NJ hockey. Seriously. Please, if that’s your end point take him out of hockey and enroll him in crew or fencing. Not joking.

    Ex, dumped the rest of my CELG. High teens total return. At this point it’s a proxy for BMY, no juice left. Do still have a small BMY equity/option position I’ll add to on weakness.

  11. Fast Eddie says:

    I can never understand Long Island. There’s basically one way in and out and you need to fight through Manhattan to get anywhere.

  12. Libturd, can't say I didn't warn you. says:

    Left. You are most probably right. But I did see him absolutely shut down an excellent team from Quebec last year. Team lost 8-2. He went +2. False hope. I know.

  13. Libturd says:

    Long Island is Paramus until you get out to the farms past Ronkonkoma. Though, the LIRR is run 100 times better than NJ Transit, which does does not say much really.

  14. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Agreed. I still have plenty of cash and don’t see a technical reason to sell CELG/BMY right now, so I’m holding.

    Ex, dumped the rest of my CELG. High teens total return. At this point it’s a proxy for BMY, no juice left. Do still have a small BMY equity/option position I’ll add to on weakness.

  15. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Exceptin’ for the North Shore.

    Long Island is Paramus until you get out to the farms past Ronkonkoma. Though, the LIRR is run 100 times better than NJ Transit, which does does not say much really.

  16. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    When I started working in Hauppauge, commuting from Nutley daily, I once spent my lunch hour just driving around, intending to “take a look around” Long Island. I drove pretty far, but never got out of my office park.

  17. Gobsmacked says:

    Long Island is the most boring part of the tristate area. Sagamore Hill, the Hamptoms…and the rest is one giant Levittown.

  18. Fast Eddie says:

    All I know is that Ray Barone lives in Lynbrook, Long Island. lol! Not sure I’ve ever been that much past Queens. I went to a concert in L.I. years ago. No, it wasn’t where the Islanders play or played, that’s way too far. Can’t remember where.

  19. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Long Island has some of the very best restaurants…with the very worst service. There aren’t any poor/blue collar towns to supply hustling bus boys, waiters, and waitresses.

  20. Gobsmacked says:

    F.E., was it Jones Beach? I saw Elvis Costello there, Bananarama opened for him.

  21. Bruiser says:

    The Original NJ ExPat, 1:31 pm
    “Long Island has some of the very best restaurants…with the very worst service. There aren’t any poor/blue collar towns to supply hustling bus boys, waiters, and waitresses.”

    No poor or blue collar towns? Are you out of your gourd? Just off the top of my head…
    – Hempstead
    – Roosevelt
    – Wyandanch
    – Mastic Beach
    – Uniondale
    – Island Park
    – Floral Park
    – Elmont
    – Franklin Square
    – Freeport

  22. Yo! says:

    Bruiser, those areas are a mix of white and blue collar but none of those locations is poor. All have household incomes significantly above the national average except for Hempstead which is just slightly above the national average. There are scattered poor households but more than offset by middle and high earning households. Floral Park has a lower poverty rate than Rumson or Millburn.

  23. JCer says:

    You forgot Brentwood….a name that makes it sound fancy but it is ghetto….

  24. joyce says:

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    He loves the donations from farmers and other industry that wants to pay people illegally under the table, cheating the government out of tens if not hundreds of billions in taxes.

  25. ExEssex says:

    1:11 sounds like you smoked your lunch…

  26. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’ve always taken the position that illegal immigrants swarm to our country for one reason…American businesses make a ton of money off them. If they couldn’t get jobs, why would they come here?

    You don’t want illegal immigrants, well tell all the businesses to stop hiring them.

  27. leftwing says:

    Lib, wrote you a thoughtful response on the hockey but it disappeared into cyberspace…here’s an abridged version

    Bottom line, the best well worn pathway for the NJ player involves leaving the State, even at T1. If he is anywhere near that level he will have people contacting him if he has not already. First legit National bound T1 teams in the District (not BS AYHL American or USPHL Elite teams) and they will offer tuition breaks to get him. Then you move during HS, first to prep then USHL.

    There is another way, but it is lower probability, ugly, and nearly as expensive.

    Hockey is unique among D1 for several reasons. Run the numbers compared to lax, football, etc….only 60 programs, only 25 roster spots, subtract the half that are Canadian/Minnesota, divide by four levels in college, divide by the three year wide entry age of freshman and you get 60-70 D1 freshman slots annually open for a player at any birth year. A good number are Ivy, a good number are schools you would not enroll him (Bemeidji State anyone?), and then there are the rest….

    Play the sport for love of it. If you’re looking for dollars or preferential admissions do anything else. Hell, e-sports. Water polo. Whatever.

    Good luck at Districts

  28. Juice Box says:

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  29. Yo! says:

    Grim I’m in mod

  30. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I meant nobody is commuting from those South shore or way, way out towns to bus tables or waitress on the North Shore like Huntington. Why would they? They can earn minimum wage much closer to home. Instead you get rich HS kids who don’t even want the job, their parents are probably making them do it to teach them the value of a buck. Have dinner in one of the $$$$ restaurants in Huntington and tell me you see anything different.

    No poor or blue collar towns? Are you out of your gourd? Just off the top of my head…
    – Hempstead
    – Roosevelt
    – Wyandanch
    – Mastic Beach
    – Uniondale
    – Island Park
    – Floral Park
    – Elmont
    – Franklin Square
    – Freeport

  31. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Now consider waitresses, waiters, and especially bus boys may very well not even have access to a car.

    Distance from Huntington (driving times)
    – Hempstead 22 miles, 46 minutes
    – Roosevelt 22 miles, 49 minutes
    – Wyandanch 11.5 miles, 30 minutes
    – Mastic Beach 38.6 miles, 1 hour 13 minutes
    – Uniondale 22 miles, 47 minutes
    – Island Park 34 miles, 1 hour
    – Floral Park 26 miles, 1 hour 7 minutes
    – Franklin Square 27 miles 58 minutes
    – Freeport 24 miles 48 minutes

  32. Yo! says:

    Every Long Island location on that list has median household income well above the national level except Hempstead, which is only slightly above the national average. Brentwood’s median household income is 30% above US and 20% above NY state. These towns have some poor people but they are middle class and upper middle class mix of blue and white collar by any objective measurable standard.

    Expat’s point is right – Long Island’s poor and blue collar population is tiny.

    And Floral Park is 90% above the US average and has lower poverty rate than Rumson, Millburn, Ridgewood, and Franklin Lakes. Bruiser does not appear to know what he is writing about.

  33. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    The median age in Huntington is 22% higher than New York.
    In Huntington 91.90% of the population is White.
    In Huntington 1.47% of the population is Black or African American.
    In Huntington 3.27% of the population is Asian.

    Huntington, NY has a population of 17,942 and is the 2,413th largest city in the United States. The population density is 2,363 per sq mi which is 559% higher than the New York average and 2508% higher than the national average.

    ^^^^Lotta people, lotta restaurants, not too much waitstaff^^^^

    https://www.areavibes.com/huntington-ny/demographics/

  34. 3b says:

    Brentwood is a crap hole and has been for years! And Central American gang activity as well. That being said overall Long Island far less poor areas than North Jersey.

  35. leftwing says:

    “Brentwood’s median household income is 30% above the US…”

    In the metro NYC area being only 30% above the NATIONAL median is poverty…

  36. Libturd, still in Union, mainly on Thursdays. says:

    Lefty,

    D1 aspirations are more tongue in cheek. I know it’s already too late. We did here through the grapevine that there is a private high school with some interest in him, but I doubt he would leave his friends in Ridge. Districts for me is really an excuse to sleep over down in AC. Don’t sweat it. I’ve always known his chances are next to nothing. It’s just his sports IQ is so damn high. All without an ounce of Kumon, tutoring with a brother who almost died of cancer. Still straights A’s and honors everything but English, by choice. Appreciate the advice.

  37. ExEssex says:

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    Among those who moved to New Mexico, 42% said they did so because of retirement, making the Land of Enchantment a top destination.

    Florida came in second, with 38% of people moving there citing “retirement” as a reason. Arizona followed in third, according to United Van Lines.
    Meanwhile, those golden years were also a primary reason why people fled New Jersey, with a third of households citing that as a driver behind their decision to leave the Garden State.
    Maine and Connecticut round out the top three states people are moving away from citing retirement, the moving service found.

  38. D-FENS says:

    Some Psycho from NJ tried to burn down St. Patricks Cathedral yesterday.

    https://nypost.com/2019/04/17/man-arrested-after-walking-into-st-patricks-cathedral-with-gas-cans/

  39. Not ExEssex says:

    Once you have been to that stretch of I-10 West of El Paso/Las Cruces all the way to Tucson +/- 250 miles – you’ll fall in love with the area for retirement. Is desert country, but if you want a beach. A 2 hour drive from the border near Tucson is Rocky Point (Puerto Penasco)

    Who needs the jersey shore?

  40. ExEssex says:

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  42. Not ExEssex says:

    Sorry, but their a lot of fat tatooed slobs in NM too.

    Remember native american culture (tattoos up the wazhoos) and carb heavy south western diet. Just replace a blonde redneck honey boo boo with a tanned dark hair jose eagle boo boo, both are in an electric scooter with anti-tipping and heavy towing connectors

  43. chicagofinance says:

    LBI away from the bridge is better than that…… especially after Sandy which wiped out most of element you described….. the Philly suburbs supply most of those BTW

    ExEssex says:
    April 18, 2019 at 8:10 am
    Cape May was always nice, but most of the shore in NJ is costly and filled with fat, tattooed slobs.

  44. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Depends on where you go…

    ExEssex says:
    April 18, 2019 at 8:10 am
    Cape May was always nice, but most of the shore in NJ is costly and filled with fat, tattooed slobs.

  45. Juice Box says:

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  46. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Hope I never have to suffer that fate….spending my golden years in the New Mexico desert.

    Are you really saving that much money that you would choose to live in this environment?

  47. Juice Box says:

    Pumps your Wayne NJ bumpkin is showing do you ever get on a plane?

    https://www.skinewmexico.com/resorts/taos/

    Carson National Forest 2,174 mi²

    New Jersey is only 8,723 mi²

  48. Yo! says:

    Census data out today shows New York City’s population declined in 2018. The end to the Reit animation trend?

  49. Yo! says:

    Reurbanization

  50. Yo! says:

    FLASHBACK

    Yo! says:
    August 1, 2018 at 12:23 pm

    What isn’t getting much attention is the urbanization trend is slowing. You heard it here first – New York City’s population is declining.

  51. Yo! says:

    Monmouth County biggest loser in NJ. Second year in a row Monmouth declined, after centuries of nonstop population growth.

    Ocean, Hudson, Bergen, Essex big winners. Why the separation between Monmouth and Ocean? What is going wrong in Monmouth that people no longer want to live there?

  52. joyce says:

    Guessing that Ocean did not grow outside of Lakewood.

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    re: “Monmouth County biggest loser”

    We like it this way, nice and flat.. growth rate of -0.07% over a decade.

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  55. Fast Eddie says:

    Ocean County s.ucks! Omg, it’s void of energy and culture! The beach is the only reason it exists.

  56. homeboken says:

    Thanks to rampant anti-vaxx parenting, the youth population of Lakewood is set up for a sharp decline as well.

  57. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just not for me… more power to the people that do want to live in this state.

    Juice Box says:
    April 18, 2019 at 9:06 am
    Pumps your Wayne NJ bumpkin is showing do you ever get on a plane?

    https://www.skinewmexico.com/resorts/taos/

    Carson National Forest 2,174 mi²

    New Jersey is only 8,723 mi²

  58. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Listen, every state has its beautiful areas. I’m used to a certain type of life. I can vacation in areas, but do not want to live there.

  59. 3b says:

    Yo Monmouth co is a crappy commute to the city. As per family and friends who live there. The young ( use your own definition of young) that do or will move to the suburbs dont want that commute especially with both parents working and day care.

    As for Bergen county part of that growth probably a big part of it is from rental apartments my town has a big new one almost complete. Paramus just opened a new one. With 6 more developments coming. New Milford has a new one coming that will start in the summer. And more are planned for Bergen County. Bergen is not Mayberry anymore.

  60. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Yeah, that Passaic County type of life. Shopping trips to Paterson and West Belt mall, spotting wild game (left over from Jungle Habitat) in the woods of West Milford, fine dining at Fuddruckers in Wayne.

    Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahaa!!

    Listen, every state has its beautiful areas. I’m used to a certain type of life.

  61. Ship PumpkinAway says:

    Here is Pumpkin late at night after coming from work, trying to cross his double yellow street. You’ll notice his ethnic neighborhood is very old country looking and he carries the tradition by acting the part.

    https://youtu.be/Rnf4v5mqHes?t=52

  62. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Yeah, that Passaic County type of life. Shopping trips to Paterson and West Belt mall, spotting wild game (left over from Jungle Habitat) in the woods of West Milford, f1ne d1ning at Fuddruckers in Wayne.

    Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahaa!!

    Listen, every state has its beautiful areas. I’m used to a certain type of life.

  63. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Yeah, that Passaic County type of life. Shopping trips to Paterson, spotting wild game (left over from Jungle Habitat) in the woods of West Milford, fine dining at Fuddruckers in Wayne.

    Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahaa!!

    Listen, every state has its beautiful areas. I’m used to a certain type of life.

  64. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Yeah, that Passaic County type of life.

    Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahaa!!

    Listen, every state has its beautiful areas. I’m used to a certain type of life.

  65. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Shopping trips to Paterson and West Belt mall…

  66. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Spotting wild game (left over from Jungle Habitat) in the woods of West Milford…

  67. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Fine dining at Fuddruckers in Wayne….

  68. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Taking your kids to playgrounds that used to be toxic waste dumps…

  69. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    And finally, HIGH SPEED LIMITS, so you can get in and out of your driveway fast. Time is money in Passaic County!

  70. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Oh poor pumpkin, feel so bad for him. What did he ever do to deserve such a wretched place to live. He lives on a highway, who does that? Even worse, he lives in nj. Oh, the misery he goes through on a daily basis.

  71. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Criminal dad, criminal lad.

  72. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Fuddruckers is a shooting range.

  73. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Why did you leave jersey? Oh, that’s right, couldn’t make it here. Only the strong survive and make it in jersey. We get it…no explanation needed.

  74. Libturd, can't say I didn't warn you. says:

    Homeboken,

    “Thanks to rampant anti-vaxx parenting, the youth population of Lakewood is set up for a sharp decline as well.”

    The D came down with the flu on Tuesday. When I took him to the pediatrician, there were signs everywhere that said they will no longer see non-vaccinated children. I told D’s doctor that I told her this was coming and she should have changed their policy year’s ago. We threatened to leave there once D started chemo, but they allowed to come in before opening to compensate. She said that the measles outbreak has caused such a panic in the religious areas that everyone who skipped these vaccinations are in such a rush to get them now that it’s causing problems in that there are necessary waits between inoculations for effectiveness and the families are in complete panic over the delay. Our Passaic relative’s temple requires 100% vaccination for entry. Of course, their rabbi was not an anti-vaccer. Not sure where this crap came from among Hasidic Jews as it’s absolutely not a kosher thing.

  75. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Anybody can make it in NJ, that’s why you have everybody.

  76. The Great Pumpkin says:

    If paterson is your type of lifestyle, sure, anyone can make it in jersey. Again, why did you leave?

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    April 18, 2019 at 10:52 am
    Anybody can make it in NJ, that’s why you have everybody.

  77. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    People without college degrees or dads even carve out an existence in NJ.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

  78. Libturd, still in Union, mainly on Thursdays. says:

    Looked it up. Just a couple of crazy rabbis who bought into the secular vax choice movement. I hope they all contract everything.

  79. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Sometimes I wonder if Pumps isn’t some kind of Passaic County vampire, with the entire county being his grave. He can go to route 3 in Clifton and see the bright lights of NYC, but if he crosses over into Nutley he turns to dust.

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    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=235591

    8 USC 1158 makes clear that an asylum applicant is not entitled to work authorization.
    Yet Trump has issued 750,000 such permits over the last two fiscal years … and the number of permits he issued are greater than those issued by Obama during his second term.

  81. 3b says:

    Grim. Please unmod. Something I posted put me in time out.

  82. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Child tax credit should be tied to vaccinations. These people should also have to register in order to alert parents of kids who weren’t able to receive vaccinations for medical reasons.

  83. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Data speaks louder than words….my god, trump is playing the people. Says one thing, but does another.

  84. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What’s more concerning, why is nobody talking about this? Media ignores it. Makes me think they want this pool of illegal workers to keep coming to this country.

  85. Libturd, still in Union, mainly on Thursdays. says:

    We should send all non-vaccinated Americans to Staten Island and then bomb the 4 bridges a la I Am Legend.

  86. 1987 Condo says:

    Although I escaped from S.I myself, please note, we always made fun of NJ while growing up there.

  87. Libturd, still in Union, mainly on Thursdays. says:

    Then you all moved to central Jersey.

  88. 1987 Condo says:

    That why I live next to you!

  89. Juice Box says:

    Tard re: “Not sure where this crap came from among Hasidic Jews as it’s absolutely not a kosher thing.”

    Ignorance is the answer.

    Here is a Doctor in Israel talking about the problem.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGaJnQ5qpUk

    I hate to be one to say it but a quarantine might be in order, travel bans etc until every one is vaccinated, that poor flight attendant from El Al may not live.

  90. GdBlsU45 says:

    Trump 1,865,783
    Resistance 0

  91. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Everybody in NY, neé, the nation, makes fun of NJ. That’s why nobody moves there from inside the lower 48 unless they have some previous connection to NJ. Like I’ve said many times before, these words have never been uttered by anyone:

    “I’ve absolutely had it with this place! I’m just going to pick up and move to New Jersey!”

    ^^^you can substitute in CA, FL, NC, SC, WA, OR, AZ, CO, PA, VT, NH, MA, ME etc. and people have said that, but not NJ

    Although I escaped from S.I myself, please note, we always made fun of NJ while growing up there.

  92. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    New Jersey – “If you can make it there, you can make it..oh well. It could be worse.”

  93. 1987 Condo says:

    NJ is still plenty attractive to folks in NYC. Especially getting away from 4% NYC income tax and surcharges for the MTA on your electric bill, your gas bill your cable bill your gasoline bill, etc…….

  94. Juice Box says:

    Hummm the Muller report on Russian “collusion” is 207 pages long and the second report on “obstruction of justice” is 241 pages long. Really shows the priorities of the Muller and team.

    Every document requested was delivered without fail. Every White House and campaign staffer requested for interviews was provided. Trump and his team literally did everything possible to accommodate Mueller’s investigation.

    Muller report also has over 50 referenced “opinion” articles from The New York Times and the Washington Post, how is that for wasting paper?

    This looks to me about as far from obstruction as you can get, and more importantly the Markets are up….

  95. Libturd, can't say I didn't warn you. says:

    The whole Russian/Obstruction thing was a complete waste of time. I feel bad for my fellow Dems. They are sooooooooooooo clueless.

  96. Fast Eddie says:

    On CNN page in size 175 font:

    Obstruction by Trump failed when staffers defied him!

    Trump failed!! Staffers fought back!! Justice prevailed!!

  97. Fast Eddie says:

    The democrat candidate will probably get a larger share of the popular vote than Hillary did and yet, Trump will get more electoral votes. If you think the left was p1ssed in 2016, what until you see their reaction in 2020.

  98. Not FastEddie says:

    Eddie,

    I think the 2020 Election will be decided on one issue. You saw of it when Sanders did the Town Hall on Fox. The public reaction to Baeir’s question of who want Medicare For All said it all. Trump’s reaction to people’s reaction to Sanders and the stock market reaction by clobbering anything to do with health insurance and pharma, again says it all.

    The 2020’s is the Dems to lose. And they will lose because they have not yet exorcise the “boomer Clinton/Pelosi/3rd Way aka Rockefeller Republicans ” that infected it when the Clintons took over. Already the big donors are trying to fence out Sanders, it looks like they still need another 4+ yrs in the wilderness to get rid of these boomer demons.

    2020 is going to be won by whoever is “Medicare for All”. If the dems don’t step up and kill it off, the public anger will go to “Medicare for None” with Trump, and big push by the ideologues to get rid of Obamacare and Medicare as is now stand forever.

  99. Fast Eddie says:

    2020 is going to be won by whoever is “Medicare for All”.

    Liberals are all about choice, no? And who pays for it all? Do I have a choice to select the care I need by a particular provider or do I stand in line with a third world junkie and hope I don’t die before he does? Do you really think the democrats give a sh1t about your well-being? Will Sanders’ family and relatives have to stand in the same line as myself?

  100. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Prepare to hear this term A LOT as the boomerang swings back:

    Collusion Truther (Schiff, Swallow-well, Maddow et al)

  101. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    BootyJudge/Swallow-well 2020!

  102. Fast Eddie says:

    Medicare for all
    Houses for all
    College for all
    Food for all
    Phones for all
    0ral s.ex for all

    Sounds pretty good, doesn’t it?

  103. Libturd, still in Union, mainly on Thursdays. says:

    Healthcare in this country is so fukced. The only fix is really single payer. Yet the healthcare lobby has everyone fooled.

  104. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Is that the slogan for the losers that can’t make it here?

    It’s okay, we can find you somewhere easier to compete.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    April 18, 2019 at 12:38 pm
    Everybody in NY, neé, the nation, makes fun of NJ. That’s why nobody moves there from inside the lower 48 unless they have some previous connection to NJ. Like I’ve said many times before, these words have never been uttered by anyone:

    “I’ve absolutely had it with this place! I’m just going to pick up and move to New Jersey!”

  105. Not FastEddie says:

    Eddie,

    Is easy. You are already paying from your taxes for the most expensive part of healthcare, that is taking care of old people aka the drug addled boomers on medicare.

    The cost of taking care of everyone else is a lot lower than you think once the rent seeking of big pharma and for-profit insurance and hospitals are out of the equation. United Healthcare provides insurance to as many people as Medicare does now. United Health Care is an oligopolist taking a a nice cut of every transaction making over 220 billions.

    The other solution is actually simple. You take care of your parents, and I’ll take care of my parents. I don’t pay for yours and you don’t pay for mine. Is a great solution that I’m happy with too. Simply because if there is a generation that needs to be sent off the planet asap because of their selfishness and self centerness, no one beats the boomers.

  106. Fast Eddie says:

    Simply because if there is a generation that needs to be sent off the planet asap because of their selfishness and self centerness, no one beats the boomers.

    Because your generation would have done it differently, right?

  107. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I know why I’m here…I’m here to go and get it! I understand the tax penalty for entering this arena of the economy, but I accept it knowing the economic potential. A place that tries to lure you in with no tax penalty has just that….low taxes. That’s all it can offer to an individual like myself. That’s why I choose and accept the tax penalty to compete in this economic arena. Think that’s why everyone is here in this state.

    This state has two things, rich and poor. The middle leave for easier pastures. The poor are too lazy to move. The rich kill it. That’s jersey!

  108. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    You could easily hire every doctor in the state at a salary of $1 million per year to give full service to everyone in town healthcare and the cost would come out a fraction of what we pay for insurance. The insurance industry is a parasite and tying healthcare to employment was the worst thing we ever did.

  109. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Our kids support how many college towns in other states?

    Our retirees support how many state economies?

    Jersey is a got damn economic powerhouse. That’s why the feds will have no choice but to help bailout the pension issue. Jersey is too important to the national economy. Our state consumes a lot of products and our state pays a lot of taxes..

  110. D-FENS says:

    It’s not really a free market system right now. I’d prefer free market solutions.

    Libturd, still in Union, mainly on Thursdays. says:
    April 18, 2019 at 2:30 pm
    Healthcare in this country is so fukced. The only fix is really single payer. Yet the healthcare lobby has everyone fooled.

  111. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    If you can’t make it here
    Nana can help you there
    You need no, degree, degree, degree (that’s three), in New Jersey!

    Bump-bump-bah-duh-bump
    Bump-bump-bah-duh-bump
    NEW JERSEY!!!

  112. joyce says:

    Hospitals and their network of providers, both actually in a hospital and at other clinics, are a bigger part of the problem than insurance companies.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    April 18, 2019 at 2:38 pm
    You could easily hire every doctor in the state at a salary of $1 million per year to give full service to everyone in town healthcare and the cost would come out a fraction of what we pay for insurance. The insurance industry is a parasite and tying healthcare to employment was the worst thing we ever did.

  113. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Those Post Office Blues…
    Are fading away…
    You’ve got to be a part of it,
    Drop out, drop out!!!!

  114. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Over the years, you’ll notice that Pumps continually and intentionally misspells “god damn” as “got damn”. Sure, his education is severely lacking, but this is intentional.

    Is Pumps a Muslim? Muslims won’t ever spell the work “god”, but they usually do the easily identifiable g-d.

    I’m still going with Occam’s Razor and Pumps was just an unmercifully sexually abused child while his abusers read from the bible. His dad might not have been active in the abuse, but he might have smoked a joint and jacked off while he watched.

    Jersey is a got damn..

  115. Juice Box says:

    Lol from the Muller report. Page 44

    Julian Assange, on Hillary Clinton: “She’s a bright, well connected, sadistic sociopath”

  116. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    You need the context:

    As the Intercept reported last year (based on leaks from within WikiLeaks), and as the Mueller Report now confirms as fact, Assange “privately expressed opposition to candidate Clinton well before the first release of stolen documents. In November 2015, Assange wrote to other members and associates of WikiLeaks” that “it would be much better for GOP to win” and that Hillary Clinton is “a bright, well connected, sadistic sociopath.”

  117. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Chris Matthews – Nadler is a fine fellow. This is the fight of his life right now.

  118. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Matthews is off the rails – “But I do know the politics, and this disturbs me. Because the great cover for the Democrats so far, for two years, is they are pursuing the truth. They’re pursuing justice…and accountability…and limited government which conservative Republicans have always believed in, before Trump. Limited government. And they’re pursuing these ideals, for all these months, ABOVE politics, and now they say, “Well we may have a case for impeachment, but we’re not gonna pursue it because…we can’t get Republicans to go along with it, and therefore it will look like a partisan exercise and therefore we’re not going to do it. And that is scary, because it changed their standard. Their standard was justice and truth, now it’s “What’s going to be good for 2020?”. That’s not gonna look too good, if they make that decision.

  119. Bystander says:

    In Mueller report, after Sessions tells him a special counsel has been assigned.

    “Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m f**ked,” Trump said.

    Sounds like innocent man.

  120. A Home Buyer says:

    Bystander,

    That a great can headline article. Read the rest of it with context.

    “Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency,” said Mr Trump, according to the report. “It takes years and years and I won’ t be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me.” – Reuters

  121. Juice Box says:

    Bystander – you should know better. The full quote was omitted by the MSM so the context changed to make it sound like he was guilty when in fact he went on the explain why he is F–ed.

    “Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m f—ed,” Trump said when he was informed by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions of Mueller’s appointment, according to the special counsel’s final report released Thursday.

    “Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won’t be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me,” he added, according to notes from Jody Hunt, Sessions’s chief of staff at the time.

    Trump then reportedly became livid with Sessions, excoriating him for recusing himself from overseeing the probe and saying he should resign.

  122. Fast Eddie says:

    Bystander,

    All for naught. He’s still standing, we’re still making money, he’s going to be reelected and the flowers on the left are going to wilt even more.

  123. ExEssex says:

    2:37 I would have pulled out and cum on her tits.

  124. Libturd, still in Union, mainly on Thursdays. says:

    Free market in health care would be great. Who is paying for my cancer kid and his many millions in billed health care?

    This is why single payer is necessary. Got another idea?

  125. Juice Box says:

    So no evidence that a crime was committed no longer counts as innocent until proven guilty.

    Nice job folks eroding this country and our freedoms more.

  126. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Bystander – I know you enough to know you’re not an “out-of-context” moron. Find it, read the rest. Hint: If you were are a baseball GM and you just signed two high dollar elite athletes to 10 year contracts and one suffers a career ending injury and the other doesn’t produce…the GM maybe didn’t do anything wrong, but they may still be f.ucked if they only have a four year contract and they won’t be able to produce in their first two.

    In Mueller report, after Sessions tells him a special counsel has been assigned.

    “Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m f**ked,” Trump said.

    Sounds like innocent man.

  127. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    If that’s your preference, fine. BTW, you know trannys don’t get pregnant, right?

    2:37 I would have pulled out and cum on her tits.

  128. GdBlsU45 says:

    It took me until I made it msnbc before I figured out where bystander lifted that quote. He’s still huffing that fake news I see.

  129. joyce says:

    Where do the stats regarding work permits for asylum seekers fall on the fake news spectrum?

    GdBlsU45 says:
    April 18, 2019 at 4:29 pm
    It took me until I made it msnbc before I figured out where bystander lifted that quote. He’s still huffing that fake news I see.

  130. Bystander says:

    Pat,

    Just ruffling feathers. The supporters come out in full force…geez. I made more money under Obama so I have no love for Trump economy.I was never dumb enough to believe that Mueller report was going to bring him down, like many that dislike him. Also, one quote was from January 2017 and the “I’m f-ed” was from June 2017 so not same context starting out. Not dissecting the report. It is idiotic and fodder for more delusion. I accept he will be here until 2020 but it is economy that re-elects presidents. We shall see.

  131. ExEssex says:

    No one is saying “Trump” go to jail without due process and I think this passes for due process in our Country. Anyway, yeah, he’s human. Film at 11. If he collected he protec’ed.

  132. Bystander says:

    Gblbl45,

    Does Trump paint his d*ck burnt Orange #49? You and Stormy know…not sure on Melania. She has probably forgotton.

  133. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Bystander – thanks for the explanation. When you were looking for a job you seemed very reasonable, analytical, and level-headed. Then after you found a new gig…it seemed like shortly thereafter you started to go a little of the rails. I get it now.

    In 2002-2006 I stayed home while my kids were small, no income. When I went back I took a gig for less money, but it didn’t bother me, I climbed back and higher quick enough. I accepted my step back for the luxury of 4-1/2 years off, but I noticed something strange when I re-entered the workplace. Interesting comments like, “I never made so much money, yet I feel like I’m getting poorer.” I felt a little poorer myself, but I just chalked it up to being off for so long.

    I think every bit of economic unrest that we see now, in many forms, is the result of wages really stalling after 2000. The 2008 collapse was a two-fer, two big hits in 8 years. I think every bit of discord we’ve seen since comes out of the stall in wages. I got the sense somewhere around 2012 or so that people were shifting their views about economic opportunity and starting to give up on making it themselves. If they were going to make it, they were going to have to take it from somebody who already made it.

    I think that time should have past with the current economy, but maybe not quite yet. I think the “need to take it” versus “need to make it” sentiment still prevails, hence Bernie Sanders.

    Pat,

    Just ruffling feathers. The supporters come out in full force…geez. I made more money under Obama so I have no love for Trump economy.I was never dumb enough to believe that Mueller report was going to bring him down, like many that dislike him. Also, one quote was from January 2017 and the “I’m f-ed” was from June 2017 so not same context starting out. Not dissecting the report. It is idiotic and fodder for more delusion. I accept he will be here until 2020 but it is economy that re-elects presidents. We shall see.

  134. joyce says:

    You would have to rely on voluntary contributions from family, friends and/or charity. Though, healthcare costs could be lower (I think they would be).

    Libturd, still in Union, mainly on Thursdays. says:
    April 18, 2019 at 4:00 pm
    Free market in health care would be great. Who is paying for my cancer kid and his many millions in billed health care?

  135. A Home Buyer says:

    Bystander,

    That is incorrect. It won’t let me paste the transcript, however both items are from a conversation between Sessions and Trump on 5/17 as recorded by Hunts multiple interview with Sessions about 5/17.

    Page 290 of the report.

    I am not a Trump supporter, I did not vote for him, I will not vote for him, but this half ass reporting and your admitted trolling just gives die hard trumpeteers ammo they need to deflect.

  136. 3b says:

    Pumps going out of state to college or more specifically out of state college is nothing to be proud of in fact it’s embarrassing.

  137. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m with lib on this. System can’t be supported like a normal market. Too many poor require expensive care they can not afford.

    joyce says:
    April 18, 2019 at 6:57 pm
    You would have to rely on voluntary contributions from family, friends and/or charity. Though, healthcare costs could be lower (I think they would be).

    Libturd, still in Union, mainly on Thursdays. says:
    April 18, 2019 at 4:00 pm
    Free market in health care would be great. Who is paying for my cancer kid and his many millions in billed health care?

  138. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just saying, our state supports a lot of other state’s local economies. We dump a ton of money and add highly educated/skilled individuals into their economies.

    3b says:
    April 18, 2019 at 8:36 pm
    Pumps going out of state to college or more specifically out of state college is nothing to be proud of in fact it’s embarrassing.

  139. The Great Pumpkin says:

    If nj became a second rate education system by cutting taxes, how much will it impact the national economy by reducing the number of highly educated/skilled workers in the overall economy?

  140. The Great Pumpkin says:

    CEOs Are Not Overpaid

    It is fashionable today to bash Big Business. And there is one issue on which the many critics agree: CEO pay. We hear that CEOs are paid too much (or too much relative to workers), or that they rig others’ pay, or that their pay is insufficiently related to positive outcomes. But the more likely truth is CEO pay is largely caused by intense competition.

    https://apple.news/AoPqulz6fTpOwmM6CHaYgWQ

  141. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    It’s already second rate if you live in Passaic County.

    If nj became a second rate education system by cutting taxes, how much will it impact the national economy by reducing the number of highly educated/skilled workers in the overall economy?

  142. No One says:

    Free market healthcare would still offer insurance, focusing on the large items.

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