C19 Open Discussion Week 22

From NJ.com:

Why Murphy’s borrowing plan scares me to death

When this pandemic crushed New Jersey’s economy, it seemed obvious that the state would need to borrow money to survive it, and reasonable to spread the pain across at least the next few years as we pay it back. If I lost my job, I might do the same.

So, it struck me as nuts, at first, when Republicans filed suit to block Gov. Phil Murphy’s plan to borrow up to $10 billion. They don’t have a better plan, so I dismissed it as a spitball from the cheap seats in the run-up to next year’s election.

But now I’m scared. Because the state Supreme Court just ripped the mask off this thing, asking a series of shrewd questions at a hearing on Wednesday that revealed the beast underneath.

This is not just about coping with the pandemic. Murphy is using the pandemic to claim new authority to spend borrowed money on anything he wants, leaving the bill to his successors. The design of this thing is badly flawed, and our best hope now is that the Court rides to the rescue by putting up some boundaries.

My moment of clarity came 1 hour and 58 minutes into the hearing when Chief Justice Stuart Rabner pressed Murphy’s attorney to describe what type of spending might be justified, on an emergency basis, with the borrowed funds. 

“Could the money be used to subsidize a sports arena to the tune of $1 billion?” Rabner asked.

“Yes, your honor,” said the state’s lawyer, Jane Reilly. “If the Legislature, who has a wider view than I do of the economic needs of the state and the best means to remediate that, if they were able to come up with an explanation of why the sports arena was necessary to meet the fiscal emergency the pandemic caused, then yes, that would be acceptable.”

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308 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 22

  1. grim says:

    Also from the link above:

    One last reason to worry: Remember Christie Whitman infamous bond scam of 1997, when she borrowed $2.8 billion to shore up the pension fund. People often forget the really dastardly part of that stunt — she backloaded the repayment schedule so that the burden ballooned on her successors. We are paying more than $450 million a year now, and we still owe $2 billion of the principal.

    “Every time we make that payment, you have no idea how angry I get,” says Senate President Steve Sweeney, D-Gloucester. “The $2.8 we borrowed in 1997 will cost us about $11 billion in the end. Think about that.”

  2. grim says:

    Biden is going to regret running for president.

    One-Third of American Renters Expected to Miss Their August Payment

    An estimated 27% of adults in the U.S. missed their rent or mortgage payment for July, according to a nationwide survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau weekly over the last three months. Among renters alone, just over one-third (34%) said during the waning days of July that they had little to no confidence that they could make their August rent payment, a stark measure of the ongoing economic devastation for households stretched to the brink by coronavirus pandemic.

    The survey registers the deepest uncertainty across the South, where in some states, more than one-third of renters and homeowners said they missed their last rent or mortgage payment and would struggle to meet their obligations for August. In Texas, for example, 39% of renters said they weren’t certain they could pay their rent (or they were sure that they couldn’t). In Oklahoma, doubt has crept up to 43%.

  3. Phoenix says:

    We are paying more than $450 million a year now, and we still owe $2 billion of the principal.

    “Every time we make that payment, you have no idea how angry I get,” says Senate President Steve Sweeney, D-Gloucester. “The $2.8 we borrowed in 1997 will cost us about $11 billion in the end. Think about that.”

    Pumpy say’s it will never be paid back, that inflation will take care of it.

    That helped me sleep well last night….

  4. Fast Eddie says:

    Power restored late Friday night. Four days of bathing in gas, a return to the halcyon days as a gas jockey. I didn’t have a generator, had to borrow one. I will be buying one now. Any suggestions? I know it’ll be one of those 10,000 watt rigs, just need to decide which one. I don’t want to go with a whole house generator as I just feel the investment is not worth it. By all means, recommend a generator.

  5. Grim says:

    If your natural gas line and panel are roughly in the same area install a transfer switch and a quick gas disconnect outside.

  6. Grim says:

    Or just get the transfer switch, and run a dual fuel generator that can run off a propane tank instead.

  7. zapaza19 says:

    I sold my 12.5/15.6kw peak generator this past Wednesday. Put add in afternoon. Sold same evening to a person living 50 miles away. Bergen County dude. heehee. I modified that unit to run on natural gas. But, I needed it to off load as I am selling my house and should close in a month. Damn thing weighted over 300lbs!

    Yes, my house went under contract quite quickly. About 3 days in Hunterdon county. Getting 99% of listing price. However, house that I GC’ed about 30 years ago still has:
    ..original roof
    ..original boiler
    ..original deck
    ..original twin AC system
    ..original well pump and tank
    ..original windows
    ..original carpeting upstairs in kids bedrooms
    ..septic needs minor repair, no big deal

    Got to strike when the iron is hot

  8. Fast Eddie says:

    If your natural gas line and panel are roughly in the same area install a transfer switch and a quick gas disconnect outside.

    It is and this is the recommendation a few have made. I guess now it’s just a matter of which machine to purchase.

  9. homeboken says:

    Recent EO to extend UE payments and payroll tax deferral is likely unconstitutional. But, will the Dem leadership challenge it?

    Litigate – and get viewed as being in opposition to the working man and unemployed.

    Don’t fight it – Trump gets all the credit for producing where Congress could not.

    Take a pause in the legality of it and it is a brilliant maneuver by the executive.

    Second order thinking – if Trumps EO is proven to be executive over reach, I expect many of the Obama era EOs on immigration to be challenged under the same premise.

    Quite a political pickle the DNC find themselves in

  10. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s always about timing. Imagine if you had to sell 4 years ago. F’ed!

    Always said to this blog that it will return even if it looked like suburbs were truly dead. It was just an absolute deal to buy at the time when no one wanted it. I was screaming that it was super cheap, but no one wanted to listen.

    zapaza19 says:
    August 9, 2020 at 10:30 am
    I sold my 12.5/15.6kw peak generator this past Wednesday. Put add in afternoon. Sold same evening to a person living 50 miles away. Bergen County dude. heehee. I modified that unit to run on natural gas. But, I needed it to off load as I am selling my house and should close in a month. Damn thing weighted over 300lbs!

    Yes, my house went under contract quite quickly. About 3 days in Hunterdon county. Getting 99% of listing price. However, house that I GC’ed about 30 years ago still has:
    ..original roof
    ..original boiler
    ..original deck
    ..original twin AC system
    ..original well pump and tank
    ..original windows
    ..original carpeting upstairs in kids bedrooms
    ..septic needs minor repair, no big deal

    Got to strike when the iron is hot

  11. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You say it yourself, it’s impossible to pay back. Face it, inflation is the tool that will be used. It’s also going to take time.

    Phoenix says:
    August 9, 2020 at 10:04 am
    We are paying more than $450 million a year now, and we still owe $2 billion of the principal.

    “Every time we make that payment, you have no idea how angry I get,” says Senate President Steve Sweeney, D-Gloucester. “The $2.8 we borrowed in 1997 will cost us about $11 billion in the end. Think about that.”

    Pumpy say’s it will never be paid back, that inflation will take care of it.

    That helped me sleep well last night

  12. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Spillover…look at the rise in prices. Said this for how long? Lot of money to be made if people listened to me.

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/321-Mortimer-Ave-Rutherford-NJ-07070/38023880_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage

  13. SomeOne says:

    homeboken, does it make sense to view an “unconstitutional or not” in terms of whether the red team or the blue team is doing it?

  14. SomeOne says:

    Pumps, are you suggesting that people should sell and downgrade (or move to somewhere like PA, or rent)? If one were to sell and upgrade, they will indirectly be paying a premium for the upgrade. There are transaction costs on top of it.

  15. homeboken says:

    Someone- Unfortunately, it does matter. I fear that the rule of law has been perverted beyond repair over decades of political maneuvering.

    I don’t expect one side to play be the rules while the other is exempt from them.

    It does suck. That’s why I led off with, “likely unconstitutional EOs”. I admit that much.

    Separate question – The DNC is claiming that Joe can’t do in person interviews due to COVID concerns. His wife, Jill, has given an in person interviews from her own living room recently. Is it unsafe for Joe to be questioned from his living room?

    My point, this is all a gigantic con job. I agree that Trump is mostly a Buffon. But Biden is a freaking mummy.

  16. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    Sizing of gas line matters. You can’t just hook up any size generator on any size gas line. Generators use large amounts of gas.
    Take this into consideration when you purchase.

  17. Phoenix says:

    Bumpy,
    Maybe we should just take TikTok from the Chinese and give that to the retirees of N.J.
    It’s not worth much, only 100 billion or so, about half of what is owed.
    Then the kids on there can mock the teachers and the teachers can profit from being exposed on TikTok.

    Sounds like a win-win.

  18. homeboken says:

    So far seven house incumbents have been defeated in the primary process. I love that so much.

    If we don’t approve term limits, then we as voters must vote for congressional refreshers on our own. Politician is not a career. Serve and move on with your life.

  19. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I’ve seen a number of people go senile over the years. Once it becomes noticeable, the decay is pretty quick over the next couple of years. I’m watching it happen in real time right now with my mother who is in her late 60s.

    One of my best friends, a former coworker, is approaching 80, and is still razor sharp and in phenomenal shape. I also know a guy I used to eat breakfast with when I used to take my grandfather to McDonalds for breakfast daily (About 12 years ago at this point). He was part of the senior morning crew there. He’s 93 and the same deal. He was 80 when we started eating breakfast with him and I have not been able to detect a single change in his mental health.

  20. The Great Pumpkin says:

    No, I was recommending to buy a beat up asset (suburban real estate) when cities were attracting the market. Now you hold suburban real estate and sell into coming peak wave down the road. It’s still cheap, believe it or not. Still opportunities, just not as easy as before. Every year more competition will enter the ring with not enough supply. You can also sell your suburban real estate (if you bought years ago) and fish for a deal in the city while the supply is in your favor as well as the conditions to get a deal. That’s a very smart move.

    SomeOne says:
    August 9, 2020 at 11:35 am
    Pumps, are you suggesting that people should sell and downgrade (or move to somewhere like PA, or rent)? If one were to sell and upgrade, they will indirectly be paying a premium for the upgrade. There are transaction costs on top of it.

  21. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I have to look at the millennial demographic bloc, but most are hitting 30 now. So that gives you a decade of demand in the suburbs from the biggest demographic group in our population. So start looking to sell second half of the decade if holding.

  22. ExEssex says:

    Woooooof. Terrible terrible night last night.
    Went to DuPars for advertised crab night.
    There was none. Street preachers screaming through
    Megaphones as we’re trying to eat. I lost it.
    LA is truly a hellish City. If this is where it’s going I’d
    Advise being far away from
    Major cities or carry a f’ing tazer.

  23. ExEssex says:

    Deck chairs and titanic come to mind.

    Betcha foreclosures go through the roof.

  24. ExEssex says:

    12:26 my goal is to be operating on only a brain stem by then.

  25. Chicago says:

    Not only underground utilities, but our source line is on a State Road, and a traffic light intersection was affected.

    Grim says:
    August 9, 2020 at 6:53 am
    Underground utilities?

  26. Walking says:

    My Florida rentals are all paid up to date, nothing like a pro landlord state.
    My NJ rentals are running 60% late for August, and one paid through June. though hopefully this week I may get 1/2 due on a rental. Not fun times in jersey

  27. 3b says:

    Phoenix: History as you know repeatedly shows that large scale debt destroys economies. Inflation my ass it’s going to take a lot more than the Feds 2 percent inflation sweet spot to destroy the debt. And once inflation takes hold it is insidious. NJ is screwed, all the bs in the world won’t change that fact.

  28. Walking says:

    Poor moms on the upper west side, the good news is many studies report inmates are generally 96% asymptomatic to covid, so they have nothing to fear with regard to catching it from their new neighbors. Same study shows 65% asymptomatic for NJ healthcare workers. Source Washington Post asymptomatic people with corona virus.

  29. zapaza19 says:

    My NJ rentals are going fine, cross my fingers.

    One pays a little late each month, and I remove the late fee charges. Don’t need to be a tough guy now.

    One other is just a couple hundred short. She’s been at the same place for over twenty years. She’ll catch up shortly.

    Other dozen or so pay on time.

    Walking, I have a residence in Florida, here right now. I wish I could Section 1031 all my jersey properties into something here. That would be the killer. Jersey would lose all taxes on sales.

  30. Fast Eddie says:

    Phoenix,

    Thanks for the generator advice.

  31. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Then how will they address this debt? Every time in history, how has debt that can’t be paid been addressed?

    3b says:
    August 9, 2020 at 4:17 pm
    Phoenix: History as you know repeatedly shows that large scale debt destroys economies. Inflation my ass it’s going to take a lot more than the Feds 2 percent inflation sweet spot to destroy the debt. And once inflation takes hold it is insidious. NJ is screwed, all the bs in the world won’t change that fact.

  32. NJCoast says:

    Looks like a war zone here. Military helicopters hovering. Road detours. Trump is really ruining a chill beach day.

  33. joyce says:

    Following the plea deal, officials with the prosecutor’s office declined to discuss the disposition of the original charges.

    “This was the conclusion of a thorough investigation and prosecution which led to the conviction of a sworn law enforcement officer who betrayed the public trust,” county Prosecutor Charles Fiore said in a February statement on the case.

    McWain was sentenced to 30 months of non-custodial probation under terms of the plea agreement, but could apply for early termination at 15 months.

    While the plea “does not touch upon” his job as a police officer, according to his plea paperwork, he still had to forfeit his police job and any future public employment under terms of the deal.

    https://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/2020/08/south-jersey-cop-gets-probation-after-plea-to-bribery-charge.html

    Future lawsuit(s) for sure – the Jersey way. Just like the Hamilton (I think) cop who as part of a lawsuit agreed to not work as a cop again recently appointed to some b.s. under chief / director role.

  34. Hold my beer says:

    We keep having brownouts that last less than a minute. Have had 5 or 6 in the last 40 minutes.

  35. Walking says:

    Zapassa , same here no late fees. The couple has a kid and I don’t want to be that guy where a fee sets the family back on other things. The overtime they were using to cover other costs is gone and it’s just 40 hours for them. Honestly they would be better off going reduced hours or unemployment and collecting an extra $600

  36. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    You’re welcome. Many people don’t know this. Here’s some reading for you. I’d hate to see a purchase something you can’t use.

    https://www.uscarburetion.com/natural-gas.htm

  37. Phoenix says:

    So many complaining online demanding wiring to be buried underground. Hate to tell them that they will be buried underground long before that wiring will be.

  38. zapaza19 says:

    9:22
    I believe it’s the same kit I purchased to add NG capabilities to the generator I just sold. I had to extend my 1 inch basement gas line to the far end in order to put the pipe underneath the deck. Underneath the deck was the quick disconnect for the gas and one for the 50 amp electrical cable plug.

    The generator was fine with a 3/4 inch line for NG. The regulator is finicky, though. NG pressures differ from day to day and you have to be able to adjust accordingly in order to make the generator run smoothly. Small issue, though.

  39. chicagofinance says:

    Ex: I LOVE this…… perfection in every details….. my favorite Neil Young done without the vocorder….

  40. Fast Eddie says:

    Phoenix,

    Thanks for that chart. I’ll read it more in depth but I do have a one inch line at my deck edge that was used for the grill by the previous home owner. Or, was setup to be used. It’s black pipe, of course and a bit rusted at the threaded end but ready to be used. The only advantage I can think of by just using a gasoline-fed engine is that I can move the generator around the perimeter of the house to where I want it. All in all, I need to purchase a generator, a larger capacity one than not. So, if anyone has any suggestions on a brand or make, do chime in.

  41. D-FENS says:

    Don’t forget you can also do an interlock kit. It’s a bit cheaper and less complex than a Transfer switch.

    Grim says:
    August 9, 2020 at 10:21 am
    Or just get the transfer switch, and run a dual fuel generator that can run off a propane tank instead.

  42. Fabius Maximus says:

    And again all this Antifa garbage is coming from the right trying to frame something its not.
    https://twitter.com/ElleStanger/status/1292554150023016448

  43. D-FENS says:

    That is so obviously nonsense.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    August 10, 2020 at 10:19 am
    And again all this Antifa garbage is coming from the right trying to frame something its not.
    https://twitter.com/ElleStanger/status/1292554150023016448

  44. Phoenix says:

    Daily Mail shows Tesla store being looted, cars driven into buildings.

    Can’t wait to see how it is in 2021…

  45. Phoenix says:

    Without fuel a generator is useless. This should be your first concern. Bigger generators, unless they are inverter, will use and waste more fuel. If you are not using natural gas, inverter is the way to go.
    If you are using natural gas, it’s not an issue.
    You want easy and automatic, hook up to gas with an automatic transfer switch, make sure oil is topped off.
    If it is working correctly, it will run until the power comes back on, and you don’t have to scavenge for gas or propane.
    You have a gas line and the funds to buy one, plus you seem to want peace of mind. Shop around for a good contractor after the business dies down and get a natural gas generator.

  46. Nomad says:

    Grim,

    Would you get another Ascent? Any dislikes?

    Thx,

  47. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    No, really? Are you serious? Please tell me you’re not. I knew you are a lightweight but you’ve stopped to imbecile.

    Ben Shapiro is sitting around making sham websites. lol. I guess he found the time while on his book tour.

  48. NJ Mike says:

    20KW Kohler was the best investment I have ever made after Sandy. We have had so many storms here in JCPL land that have knocked us out for over 1 day I lost count. Cost me $7500 all in but I was already doing work on house at time and used my existing electrician and plumber. Having a one stop shop place do it will likely quote you nearly double (or triple) my cost. Buy the generator from generators direct online and ship to your house. Adding transfer switch and doing work should only be a few thousand in electrical. Plumber another $500 or so as long as gas line is reasonably close. Just make sure you have sufficient flow to unit. Peace of mind is priceless. My poor neighbor shlepping gas all night long for days last week, yeah hard pass.

  49. chicagofinance says:

    Bill Burr – the entire thing is worth watching, but I will give it to you right here……
    https://youtu.be/cvXCs0q7tNE?t=506

  50. Juice Box says:

    Drove by DJ’s last night, plenty of people out, the young adults refuse to wear masks so Governor Murphy is threatening shutdown again..

    I visited a bunch of beach towns yesterday about 90% walking the boards weren’t following the rules no masks and no distancing.

    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/08/murphy-threatens-to-shut-popular-bars-if-knuckleheads-cant-wear-masks-social-distance-in-line.html

  51. Juice Box says:

    re: Tesla looters.

    They’re just looking for some loaves of bread to feed their families.

  52. Fast Eddie says:

    Car question: I have a BMW 330i. On Saturday, I drove upstate NY.. A few hours into the trip, the air conditioner began to lose air flow to the point where practically no air was coming out of the vents even though the A/C was cranked. Obviously, you can hear it when it’s on full blast. So, I had to shut it and roll down the windows. I waited about 20 to 30 minutes, put it on again and the air flow was back to normal. By that time, I was within minutes from home so I don’t know if it would/will seize up again.

    Question: I assume something froze up and then defrosted or a sensor went bad. Anybody want to speculate?

  53. Walking says:

    You are low on freon and the system is cutting off on high pressure. Probably a leak. On my Mercedes I add a bottle every 2 years as I will not be keeping it long term. I’ve have done this 3 times. I once had this happen driving down to Myrtle Beach, 2 hours of no air ughh.

  54. Fast Eddie says:

    Walking,

    Thanks. Well, it’s in warranty so off to the dealer it goes. But why would it work again after shutting it down for a while?

  55. Juice Box says:

    Eddie, low pressure freezes up the coil so no air blowing, freeze and melt rinse and repeat.

  56. Fast Eddie says:

    Juice,

    Makes sense which is the way I was leaning initially. The question is how to resolve it.

  57. chicagofinance says:

    Standard issue intellectual dishonesty from you.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    August 10, 2020 at 10:19 am
    And again all this Antifa garbage is coming from the right trying to frame something its not.
    https://twitter.com/ElleStanger/status/1292554150023016448

  58. Grim says:

    Ascent is awesome.

    I’m about ready to trade my shitty HRV for the Crosstrek.

    I am very impressed by the Eyesight system.

    Second row captains chairs are great.

    Broke the front window – chipped and spidered. I hear it’s a fortune to replace. Not looking forward to that.

    How they made a 2.4 liter 4 banger push that monster so fast is beyond me.

  59. Walking says:

    Eddie the fix will be adding dye to the freon and seeing where the leak is and replacing part or repairing the hole / leak. Plus purging the existing refrigerant and adding new.

  60. Fabius Maximus says:

    Truth,

    The beauty is in the Irony. If he did do it, he has to explain it. If he didn’t, he will always have this brought up. “How do you know the person accuse is not being framed in the same manner you claim you were?”

  61. ExEssex says:

    3:34 We’ve got an ’18 Outback. Got the Big Flat 6 (3.6l) replaced the windshield already as it cracked as I have heard that is the tendency. The drivetrain is outstanding. Its the car to drive in any type of bad weather and feel extremely safe and confident. The infotainment system is nice, but we are on head unit #2 as the first one died. Subaru make some great machines. Seats are utilitarian but I spent over 7 hours in mine to get to NorCal with surprising little fatigue.

  62. Nomad says:

    Thanks for both Subie comments. Appreciated.

    In younger days, liked car shopping. Now I would rather go to dentist for tooth extraction. May hire a broker to buy for me.

  63. hobojoe says:

    Still in Hoboken, since 1995.

    Demographic? I’d say within a year or two of Grim.

    leftwing says:
    August 7, 2020 at 11:29 am

    Hobo….you still live in Hoboken?

    If so, you mind giving a demographic range on age?

  64. chicagofinance says:

    huh? You live in a fantasy world……. you are a fool in fool’s clothing….

    Fabius Maximus says:
    August 10, 2020 at 5:10 pm
    Truth,

    The beauty is in the Irony. If he did do it, he has to explain it. If he didn’t, he will always have this brought up. “How do you know the person accuse is not being framed in the same manner you claim you were?”

  65. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Did he just explain the beauty behind false accusations?

  66. 30 year realtor says:

    My 2017 Forester XT is before Eyesight was available. New windshield was under $150. Love the turbo Subarus. They don’t make the 2 liter turbo for the Forester anymore. Had an Ascent as a loaner car and it isn’t as quick as my XT.

  67. Fabius Maximus says:

    Chi,

    Tough first day back from vacation. Back to the daily grind of dealing with clients that you hate and despise.

  68. Fabius Maximus says:

    BRT,

    Yes there is such beauty in a guy like this getting hoisted on his own Petard. He will never shake this. The Crawl Bots will make the association and he will be defending this for years.

  69. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Or…it will be revealed that this was as genuine as a fake text by tonight.

  70. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I do love the profile of that girl’s twitter though.

    Elle Stanger
    @ElleStanger
    certified sex educator. writer. 11yr sex worker. parent. queer. anti fascist.

  71. Fabius Maximus says:

    BRT, will just disappear like Q conspiracy?

    One of the reasons I love Twitter. As Ben S, is floating in my feeds, this gem came up. Its how I picture a few in here responding to Pumps.
    https://twitter.com/santiagomayer_/status/1292934646221533184

  72. D-FENS says:

    Newer Subaru windshields are notorious for cracking. My Impreza just went. Cracked in a Y shape from the bottom of the windshield. Safe lite quote was $500

  73. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The reason I love twitter is because I can find any number of doctored images or spliced videos to fit my world view.

  74. BoomerRemover says:

    Wow, is everyone here a Subary owner?

    I had one in the 90’s, was good if not for all the engine seals. For some reason all of my out of college cars were terrible; Subaru and then 9-5 Aero. I had a string of leases since then and haven’t seen the inside of an auto repair shop for the better part of a decade.

    I need to get into a car by mid September. Want to get a Chevy Bolt EV lease (under $200 sign and drive) but inventory is tight with NJ’s $5K EV rebate and dealers are reluctant to sell around invoice. NJ also picks up the cost of the charger and you get an additional 30% off installation and charging unit tax time. However, even with a 250 mile range, I couldn’t get up to my friends place in the Catskills and back in the winter without stopping on the Thruway. The lack of a heat pump, the rear torsion bar suspension… it was just too many compromises. Really fun to drive though. Salivating over the CUV and mid-SUV sized EV’s on the horizon but that is still 2-3 years out.

    We let our non-US passports lapse and with the onerous paperwork and turnaround it looks like it’ll be road trips for a while.

    I’m getting into an Equinox. The 3rd gen platform/product is really good, the turbo for sips gas, comes with GM’s tech suite and I’ve found a CUV to be just more fun to drive than a midsize SUV.

  75. Phoenix says:

    Chifi
    Burr is one of my favorites. I can really relate to that guy.

  76. phoenix says:

    A previous colleague of mine who got Covid, this is what can happen when it chooses you.
    Guy worked out 5 times a week, great shape, young.
    He looks so tired now and lost a lot of weight.

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CBWI1tbBcYJ/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

  77. Phoenix says:

    Just watching that breaks my heart. Just another thing I will never understand nor accept. I hope he gets better, man is a wonderful human being.

  78. 1987 Condo says:

    Just got 39.6 mpg on my 2019 Forester driving back from NC. Also have a 2917 Goredter with full eyesight so it was available in 2017.

  79. Nomad says:

    For Subie owners with eyesight, any issues with the system? I hear in some situations, it slams on brakes and some have commented if a car was behind them when this happened they would have been rear ended. Also have heard 2020 eyesight vastly improved vs earlier systems. Friends with other cars w similar systems have had complaints too such as Acura.

  80. grim says:

    Have a 2020, never had an issue, though it’s a big SUV and I don’t drive it aggressively.

    I’ve read through the stories, seems like most of the time the driver is coming up on someone fast, who is either changing lanes or pulling off the road, and were surprised that it triggered. Likely, not realizing that it doesn’t anticipate what the driver ahead is doing, it just knows something is ahead, and to slow, even if the car ahead is in half a lane, etc.

  81. grim says:

    Newer Subaru windshields are notorious for cracking. My Impreza just went. Cracked in a Y shape from the bottom of the windshield. Safe lite quote was $500

    I’m told the Eyesight calibration costs as much as the windshield, and OEM glass must be used. Which means, dealer labor on top of all of that. Looking at $1200+.

  82. 1987 Condo says:

    The adaptive cruise control with Eyesight is my favorite, the 10 hour drive to Charlotte is much easier when I hardly ever need to put my foot on brakes or accelerator.

  83. Nomad says:

    Interesting tidbit: couple of days ago went to Vroom to see what car is worth. This am, new email from them indicating value of my car went up $500. I guess AI is going to displace car salespeople shortly too.

  84. ExEssex says:

    6:01 eyesight has only “stopped” the car once. It’s lane correction software is a little more un-nerving as you’ll be going 75 mph and the steering wheel will ‘correct.’

    You can press buttons to disable the various features on eyesight. The lane change alarm can be a bit annoying if you are blinker averse.

  85. ExEssex says:

    OK the tally so far…. “everyone” on this board with a couple of notable exceptions is from Eastern Europe and everyone owns or has own a car made by Fuji heavy equipment Corp.

  86. homeboken says:

    Ex – Count me in for the geography at least, I descend from just slightly west of the Poles on the board.

    As for vehicles, no suburu, buy my german auto has the same advanced “driver assist” packages. It took about an hour to get use to the steering wheel tugging, I suspect I was drifting, in my lane, while on the freeway.

  87. ExEssex says:

    “God I hate this town, depending on the day”:
    https://youtu.be/PoZ31dR1dAE

  88. D-FENS says:

    Incorrect for me on the Geography. This is the first Subaru I’ve ever owned. I was a Nissan guy for years but Renault ruined that brand. I drove a pickup then a rogue for years because work required me at my desk whether it snowed or not. That crazy snowstorm a few years back In November where Murphy spaced out and didn’t plow the roads showed me how much of a frigging mountain goat those subaru’s are. That little thing went through completely unplowed roads.

    Plus it showed me I can’t count on the state to get it’s act together to plow and salt. Might as well get a gig where i can work from home.

  89. Juice Box says:

    Alice Cooper..Schools Out!

    Well we got no choice
    All the girls and boys
    Makin’ all that noise
    ‘Cause they found new toys
    Well we can’t salute ya can’t find a flag
    If that don’t suit ya that’s a drag
    School’s out for summer
    School’s out forever
    School’s been blown to pieces
    No more pencils no more books
    No more teacher’s dirty looks yeah
    Well we got no class
    And we got no principals
    And we got no innocence
    We can’t even think of a word that rhymes
    School’s out for summer
    School’s out forever
    My school’s been blown to pieces
    No more pencils no more books
    No more teacher’s dirty looks
    Out for summer
    Out till fall
    We might not come back at all
    School’s out forever
    School’s out for summer
    School’s out with fever
    School’s out completely

    Elizabeth pulled the plug on reopening schools this year, expect the rest to follow.

    “One of New Jersey’s largest school districts says starting the school year with in-person classes is a “mathematical impossibility” because 375 of its teachers will not return to the classroom because of coronavirus fears. Elizabeth’s school board voted late Monday night to begin the 2020-2021 school year with all-remote classes…”

  90. hobojoe says:

    I had a late model Outback as a rental recently. Already had the eyesight and lane assist and other bells and whistles turned on. Kept getting nits and nags from the car everytime I looked down quick to change the radio or a/c. Annoying as heck, but ok. Heading down the MassPike came upon an area where they had done some construction, the lane markings were a little faded (still visible) and there were long joints in the roadway where they had done some patching. I’m driving along and when I came to this area the car was desperately trying to throw me into the side of the car in the lane to the right of me. I think it was trying to follow one of the joints in the roadway instead of the lane markings. I had to fight the steering like hell to keep from sideswiping the other guy. Next rest area I pulled over, turned all that stuff off, and had an enjoyable rest of the trip.

  91. Juice Box says:

    Putin claims a glorious victory for the Russian people, as they are the first to begin large scale rollout of their vaccine.

    “A vaccine against coronavirus has been registered for the first time in the world this morning,” Putin said on state TV. “I know that it works quite effectively, it forms a stable immunity.”
    Putin added that one of his daughters had already taken it; he said she had a slightly higher temperature after each dose, but that: “Now she feels well.”

  92. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Elizabeth pulled the plug on reopening schools this year, expect the rest to follow.

    I doubt districts follow suit. Most suburbs have more people that want in person instruction. My district that I teach in, 80% of the parents want in person instruction. They aren’t going to pull the plug with those numbers. The only person who can come in a screw things up is Murphy at this point.

  93. homeboken says:

    Elizabeth schools – Horribly misguided tactic by the teachers here, if they are truly the ones that decided not to go back to work.

  94. Juice Box says:

    re: “I doubt districts follow suit”

    Doubt? We are taking about FEAR, there is no doubt in my mind they all will follow suit, the media is seeing fit to focus on the children.

    CNN FRONT PAGE THIS MORNING.

    “Florida’s cases in children increase 137%”

  95. homeboken says:

    The teachers can’t see past the first move here. Refusing to show up for in person instruction is going to brighten the spotlight on the entire public school experience.

    If school doesn’t return to in person learning, you will see the proponents of school choice, pension reform and total education budget hawks begin to focus their effort on more sweeping changes to the public education system.

  96. Fast Eddie says:

    It’s for the children, until it isn’t.

  97. Chicago says:

    I think minorities (POC) see the COVID thing totally differently than the white suburbs.

    If you are white, O positive blood and under 65, can social distance easily and are not integrated into extended family on a daily basis. The calculus is totally different.

  98. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Something is going on with their local union. I scanned our board minutes at my district and a grand total of 2 teachers are taking a medical leave of absence in the entire district.

  99. NoJobFor Pumpkin says:

    All this talk about school is bringing back memories, from Top Secret

    https://youtu.be/lvDFJVUaXUI

    I think this is the future, you guys forget how bad was dealing with people, from little Spock

    https://youtu.be/KvMxLpce3Xw

  100. JCer says:

    Chi, for some reason minorities, especially black folks are dying at greater rates from COVID. At this point we don’t know if it is environmental, they are typically our “essential” workers so perhaps many more are infected, and in general have worse health and healthcare overall or if there is a genetic component. The data gives a reason for some pause. Even the children impacted negatively have overwhelmingly been POC.

    As for school opening, it looks like Sweeden was right all along, statics and lies be damned they lost 6k but it mostly elderly over 80 who were already knocking on death’s door. They appear to be through COVID and it seems like they have achieved herd immunity. We should open schools with some care being taken to distance this remote thing doesn’t work for many, many children.

  101. Walking says:

    Juice box, the matketing add for the vaccine states, you trusted us to protect your data with our antivirus software, now experience the same level of protection with kapernsky covid antivirus ver 1.0.

  102. 30 year realtor says:

    JCer,

    Not sure where you are getting your information on Sweden from but this article doesn’t support your theory.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-coronavirus-chief-immunity-levels-studies-contradict-2020-8
    Appears way to early to me to be speaking with certainty about anything related to COVID-19.

  103. Libturd says:

    Sweden has been the most lied about country in the world when it comes to Covid results. Should we be surprised as it’s the only other country in the world to be as stupid as us?

    The left and the right both lie. Sadly, the entire right actually believes their bullsh1t. On the left, it’s mainly the wonkiest of folk.

    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?yScale=log&zoomToSelection=true&minPopulationFilter=1000000&country=SWE~USA~ITA~GBR~AUS~KOR&casesMetric=true&interval=smoothed&aligned=true&hideControls=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

  104. chicagofinance says:

    Ben Shapiro is responsible!
    The beauty is in the Irony. If he did do it, he has to explain it. If he didn’t, he will always have this brought up. “How do you know the person accuse is not being framed in the same manner you claim you were?”

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/11/black-lives-matter-organizer-calls-chicago-looting-reparation/

  105. Libturd says:

    In other news. Carb is replaced on my Champion generator. Took me 15 minutes to replace. $15 even included a new fuel filter and spark plug as well as new hoses, gaskets and even a new choke lever. She is purring like a kitten again.

    Definitely interlock over a transfer switch. So much simpler, safer and then you can chose whatever circuits you want to power based on need.

    Funniest thing. Most of those people who put in a NG generator after Sandy found out the hard way what happens when you ignore annual maintenance on it. Many of them lost their food anyway waiting for a maintenance person to get them running again. This happened to countless homes on our block.

    Once my generator choked (my own fault, the gas was simply too old even with Stabil), I headed down to Cape May and can’t believe how people just don’t care about spreading Covid. Maybe 10% compliance for the rules. We are going to be mired in this mess forever. Hope everyone feels it’s worth it.

    Home Depot Clifton now has perfectly smooth curbside pickup. If there’s a will, there’s a way.

    Also saw my first jogging Hasid woman this morning. Can we just abolish religion now?

    Still looking for the most affordable/reliable used SUV (not a minivan) with Captains Seats. Right now, I’m thinking used Durango, but Dodge reliability? Something in the 60-80K mileage range. Remember, I’m cheap.

  106. leftwing says:

    “Just watching that breaks my heart. Just another thing I will never understand nor accept. I hope he gets better, man is a wonderful human being.”

    Agree, and thanks for sharing….

    Not to be Debbie Downer, but does one ever ‘get better’ from HF?

  107. JCer says:

    30 yr and lib, the only numbers that matter in COVID-19 are hospitalizations and deaths, positive tests are not terribly meaningful. You may say they’ve been stupid but they have far fewer casualties than NJ by a lot and a bigger population and they didn’t lock down at all. They made mistakes in their long term care facilities with their elderly the same as in NY and NJ.

    Unless something changes soon and we have an effective vaccine or therapeutic there is no point to the lock downs, it isn’t a matter of if but a matter of when. The fall/winter resurgence of COVID will be ugly.

  108. ExEssex says:

    In recent weeks, California’s coronavirus response seems to have accelerated its descent from national model to chaotic scramble, as the state emerged as the center of the pandemic.

    The state’s reopening dissolved into a confusing patchwork of restrictions that differed county by county. Observers have criticized a lack of foresight about a predictable surge in the Central Valley, where low-wage workers in largely Latino communities have been vulnerable as they continue to report to their essential jobs.

    And a week ago, state officials said that a technical issue with its disease data-tracking system threw into question what Gov. Gavin Newsom had at first said was an encouraging — if slight — downward trend in skyrocketing cases.

    The glitch, according to the state, caused almost 300,000 records to disappear from the system, although it was unclear how many of those were coronavirus cases and how, precisely, it affected the counts.

  109. 30 year realtor says:

    JCer,

    Lib and I didn’t say the same thing. Did you read the article? Herd immunity? Nobody even knows if that is possible and the percentage of the population that has tested positive for antibodies isn’t close to what would be necessary. What are you basing your opinion on?

  110. 30 year realtor says:

    JCer,
    It is clear that there is much the scientific community doesn’t yet know or understand about COVID-19. It isn’t possible to know long term effects or if there are any. Certainly there are plenty of stories of cardiac and lung issues in people who had asymptomatic cases. Why are you so certain that the only numbers that matter are hospitalizations and deaths? This is a new disease. There is much to learn. Too soon to be saying the world is flat. There has been no time for sufficient exploration.

  111. D-FENS says:

    Just leased a new Dodge Durango Lib. Figured I couldn’t do worse than the old Pathfinder and the truck at least has some balls. If it craps out on me I’ll just turn it in at the end of the lease instead of buying it. I’ve found that it is pretty much the same thing as the Jeep Grand Cherokee except is has 3rd row seating. Power and acceleration are great for this vehicle class. Interior is more function than design but this model came with the towing package with the trailer brake and apple car play standard so…it makes up for the very basic interior.

    Where it excels is towing and power. I only have the 6 cylinder pentastar and it sounds much cooler than the old dorky pathfinder did.

    My guess is you’ll do well on a used one because the re-sale is not great on them.

  112. Juice Box says:

    Pretty intense thunderstorm here in Monmouth, just took out the power…

  113. joyce says:

    I agree there’s much we don’t yet know and there is much to learn. We seem to have taken unprecedented actions though.

    30 year realtor says:
    August 11, 2020 at 2:47 pm
    JCer,
    It is clear that there is much the scientific community doesn’t yet know or understand about COVID-19. It isn’t possible to know long term effects or if there are any. Certainly there are plenty of stories of cardiac and lung issues in people who had asymptomatic cases. Why are you so certain that the only numbers that matter are hospitalizations and deaths? This is a new disease. There is much to learn. Too soon to be saying the world is flat. There has been no time for sufficient exploration.

  114. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Juice, we fled he beach in Belmar. Just about to go back.

  115. JCer says:

    Lib my mom summers in cape may so we’ve been down there quite a bit, they are doing none of that social distancing down there, bars are crowded, beaches are crowded, people are having parties. If you thought you’d get voluntary compliance at the Jersey Shore, think again….

    On generators, I can’t justify the expense of a permanent standby gen. My house came with the illegal panel back feed and proper twist lock receptacle at some point I’ll have to put the an interlock in but it would prob require changing the panel as well so probably not going to do that until I’m ready to sell. I bought the el cheapo china freight 9kw generator for $500 and change. So far so good, I leave it behind my house with a cover on it run it every quarter even if there is no outage and change the oil after 20hrs running time(super easy one bolt and then a quart of rotella 10w30). Most times outages last hours so it is not a problem as I can run everything besides AC and the electric oven on my portable gen. Most people we know with standby units almost spend in maintenance annually what I paid for a generator.

  116. Libturd says:

    JCer,

    Exactly. Mine was $325 and so far, in 9 years, I’ve sunk $15 into it and one quart of oil. Mines only 4K, but it’s enough for our needs. Glad to see you are getting the mileage out of a Chinese POS. Those are known to only work for one storm.

    D-Fens,

    Will let you know what we go with when we go with it. I never buy used, but this time it may be worth it. And the cost to repair a Dodge has to be much lower than Mazda/Honda parts. Thanks for the advice.

  117. Libturd says:

    You guys reading about Trump’s capital gains tax cut? Does EVERYTHING have to be for the rich? Is he TRYING to start a revolution?

  118. D-FENS says:

    My understanding was that there was an income cap

  119. leftwing says:

    Specifically not going to engage into a trickle down economics discussion but suffice it to say that unless the wealthy are getting wealthier the lower classes have no shot…..

    That’s why it always amazes me when the Left bemoans an increasing income/wealth gap in times when ALL incomes are going up….A third grader could probably inform them that the janitor isn’t going to out earn Zuck even relatively on the founding and growth of FB….

    Anyway, capital produces growth. Growth produces income and wealth for all classes, but is critical for the lower. Limit capital, for example by locking it up with taxes, then you limit growth. And the ability of the lower classes to earn and save.

  120. crushednjmillenial says:

    Kamala!

  121. Fast Eddie says:

    President Harris.

  122. leftwing says:

    LOL. Futures reopen in a few. Let’s see how they react. I’m guessing up as a sigh of relief….she’s the safe choice within the parameters he set out…..

    I do sense a POC pander here….MI governor would have made eminently more Electoral sense…..

  123. homeboken says:

    Harris is a safe pick. Great story, go from Willie Brown’s mistress all the way to the WH. If Biden wins, we will see a President Harris before 2024.

  124. Libturd says:

    Kamala is the worst possible pick. She is a compulsive liar. Always plays the race card and is the second coming of Pelosi. If Trump wasn’t so awful, that pick should have sunk my bourbonship.

    But Trump is THAT bad.

    In other news, Main Street is completely fukced.

    This should be the last time the DNC wins any house if the red team has any intelligence whatsoever.

  125. leftwing says:

    Homeboken, TY on the reply the other day…..

    I have a five handle on age so a decade or so older…….Lived in Hoboken from about 92-96. Started spending a bit more time there recently, mostly around commuting into the City…some real changes, eg. Cafe elysian, which was basically next door to my old place, went from literal biker bar to full menu, scrubbed interior, brunch, and stroller friendly.

    Anyway, considering a move (against the stream of course) back to an urban environment…basically would be NYC, H, or JC, unless there is a seriously compelling reason to look elsewhere (don’t really have an interest throwing in with a bunch of DUMBO refugees homesteading a busted NJ inland city).

    So, question….from the perspective of someone NOT recently out of college yet single how is Hoboken? Is there a social life outside of all you can drink happy hours and santa-cons? Or is it a flop place for working in the City? TIA.

  126. leftwing says:

    “In other news, Main Street is completely fukced.”

    It took the Veep pick for you to realize this?

  127. chicagofinance says:

    Uptown area….. stay near the river…. the Maxwell House area and the Hudson Tea area….. you’ll like it….. make sure to have a water view, and make sure there is concrete between floors……

    leftwing says:
    August 11, 2020 at 4:45 pm
    So, question….from the perspective of someone NOT recently out of college yet single how is Hoboken? Is there a social life outside of all you can drink happy hours and santa-cons? Or is it a flop place for working in the City? TIA.

  128. 3b says:

    Will Harris be referred to as the first female Black VP pick, or the first female bi racial VP pick?

  129. D-FENS says:

    I keep telling you guys Kamala Harris will be the nominee. Just wait…

  130. D-FENS says:

    So you’re saying Trump is awesome right? That’s my takeaway

    Libturd says:
    August 11, 2020 at 4:43 pm
    Kamala is the worst possible pick. She is a compulsive liar. Always plays the race card and is the second coming of Pelosi. If Trump wasn’t so awful, that pick should have sunk my bourbonship.

    But Trump is THAT bad.

    In other news, Main Street is completely fukced.

    This should be the last time the DNC wins any house if the red team has any intelligence whatsoever

  131. Libturd says:

    I knew it would be. It’s the same party operatives who thought HRC was the bee’s knees when in actuality, she was more like the elephant’s cankles.

  132. D-FENS says:

    Dude made my Durango payment a wash. Damnit, I knew I should have got the hemi.

  133. Libturd says:

    D-Fense,

    I like your power to infer.

  134. D-FENS says:

    Trump: If I lose the election, “you’re gonna have to learn to speak Chinese.”

  135. grim says:

    So, was this actually COVID?

    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/lung-vaping-disease-now-called-evali#Flu-season-could-hide-lung-injuries

    Flu like symptoms, including GI, hazy spots on lungs, pneumonia…

  136. grim says:

    From the CDC:

    Diagnosing EVALI can be challenging because the symptoms of this lung condition are similar to those in other respiratory illnesses, like pneumonia and even the seasonal flu virus. They include:

    Shortness of breath
    Cough
    Chest pain
    Fever and chills
    Diarrhea, nausea, and vomiting
    Tachycardia (rapid heartbeat)
    Tachypnea (rapid and shallow breathing)

  137. ExEssex says:

    5:40 Kamala gives me a semi.

  138. SomeOne says:

    Leftwing,

    Limit capital, for example by locking it up with taxes, then you limit growth. And the ability of the lower classes to earn and save.

    I think too much capital leads to excesses like WeWork, pets.com, and pumped-up home prices. Wouldn’t you agree that between tax cuts paying for stock buy-backs vs some of the money going to improve basic standard of life for all, the pendulum has swung too far towards the right already?

  139. Libturd says:

    I agree Someone.

  140. ExEssex says:

    m. ET
    For years, Bryant Park Grill & Cafe in Midtown Manhattan has been one of the country’s top-grossing restaurants, the star property in Ark Restaurants’ portfolio of 20 restaurants across the United States.

    But what propelled it to the top has vanished.

    The tourists are gone, the office towers surrounding it are largely empty and the restaurant’s 1,000-seat dining room is closed. Instead, dinner is cooked and served on its patio, and the scaled-down restaurant brings in about $12,000 a day — an 85 percent plunge in revenue, its chief executive said.

    Five months into the pandemic, the drastic turn of events at businesses like Bryant Park Grill & Cafe that are part of national chains shows how the economic damage in New York has in many cases been far worse than elsewhere in the country.

    In the heart of Manhattan, national chains including J.C. Penney, Kate Spade, Subway and Le Pain Quotidien have shuttered branches for good. Many other large brands, like Victoria’s Secret and the Gap, have kept their high-profile locations closed in Manhattan, while reopening in other states.

  141. chicagofinance says:

    Ex: DeBlasio said everything is fine. I am not sure about your source.

  142. hobojoe says:

    leftwing:
    Things are really in flux here lately. While there is still a large number of just-out-of-college-still-on-daddys-credit-card types living it up here, last few years things have gotten so expensive that the demographic seems to be trending middle-age, well-off finance and lawyer types, usually with a weekend/summer retreat elsewhere. Many of the former low-budget starter rentals are just gone – replaced by built-to-the-zoning-limit “luxury” “Boutique” rentals and condos.

    Expats were taking over a few years back and driving this – walk around during the day and evening and you could go blocks without hearing english from the mommys and daddys. Asian spillover from Jersey City still never took hold, though there are still those here and there who can and do spend ridiculous sums on merely average places.

    Several of the larger apartment complexes were essentially turned into Stevens dorms, with the massive new towers they’re building on campus now those rental buildings will empty out quickly.

    Social life – believe it or not, bars have actually been closing. The post-college drink until you can’t see bars are still here and there, but many of those which are left are a little more upscale. There were plenty of places to socialize with adults until this spring; I’ll admit I haven’t been out on the town much since. Most places have taken over the street parking with tables so those that are still in business are open (for now). I’m sure you see it when you’re here. Once colder weather hits expect that many more will shutter.

    Stay away from downtown near the PATH if you want to avoid the college -age crowd, stay away from the southwest if you want to avoid flooding during storms (though it’s not as bad as it used to be before they put the pumps in). The wild west near the projects, well, name speaks for itself no matter what the real estate types tell you.

    Chifi’s advice is on point. Up in that area is the more mature crowd, but as can be expected there are rich a-hole douches up there too. It’s very dense and built-up there. Streets are like canyons now.

    Progressives are driving the city right now, the old guard is all but dead or sold-out. In my opinion pendulum swung a little too far the other way, lots of silly short-sighted feel-good decisions being made by city leadership.

    Anything else give a holler.

  143. JCer says:

    left on hoboken, it skews 2 ways post college age kids and then uptown you have some families, the stroller crowd. My general impression is that it has mostly a party atmosphere in terms of nightlife. Jersey City tends to have older folks and the scene around Grove st is not as much of a frat party but more chill and a bit older of a crowd more 40’s and 50’s than 20’s or 30’s. The restaurants in JC are much better and more varied than in Hoboken. Jersey city trends older and way more Asian/Indian than Hoboken. Road access in and out of Hoboken is terrible, my friend who was in his late 40’s dumped his place there and moved to VT he’d sit in traffic at pretty much anytime he’d try to leave, they messed up the north end of hoboken with the development and the disaster over in weehawken and the tunnel, you get grid lock either way you go, 78 in JC is better outside of rush hour you can get in and out quickly. I second Chi’s comment about concrete floors, the selection of high rises in JC is better, prices have gotten obscene in both places.

    Lib on the china freight generators, most are made by lifan. They used to be a manufacturer for honda, the HF warranty is cr@p(90 days) so accordingly if you get one that is ok it works, if not it cr@ps out early. The engine is probably the best part of it is a pure honda gx clone, the generator portion is what will wear out on the pos, but hey it’s made it to 3 years, next time around I might buy something a bit better. It does sound like a blender when it’s running, quiet it is not. The equivalent champion unit was 1k when I looked so for half the price I bought the china freight model.

  144. grim says:

    If indoor dining isn’t permitted by the fall, this winter will be a bloodbath for NJ restaurants.

    If you have the money, consider purchasing a restaurant with a liquor license on the cheap. Or hell, just buy the liquor license and shutter the place, pocket the license. Wait. Profit.

    The likelihood of NJ legislature offering more options for liquor licenses seems just about impossible now, as it would decimate the value of existing licenses. Nobody in the legislature is going to consider sticking it to restaurants and license holders at this point.

  145. 3b says:

    My friend tells me JC rents and prices are coming down.

  146. D-FENS says:

    CT has had indoor dining since June. Similar COVID-19 numbers compared to jersey. Murphy is a stubborn misinformed ass

  147. Nomad says:

    DMV forms now online to make your experience that much better

    https://www.state.nj.us/mvc/about/forms.htm

  148. Walking says:

    Grim, I mentioned here a while back that the whole vaping and popcorn lung issue went away in November and suddenly covid hit in January. Could it be that Covid was out b ack in September 2019, maybe a worker(s) coughed into a batch of vape juice and it replicated in the vials on the way to the US.

  149. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Are you a capitalist? Now understand nyc will always be the coolest real estate in the country, if not world. Easy money. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

    ExEssex says:
    August 11, 2020 at 7:25 pm
    m. ET
    For years, Bryant Park Grill & Cafe in Midtown Manhattan has been one of the country’s top-grossing restaurants, the star property in Ark Restaurants’ portfolio of 20 restaurants across the United States.

    But what propelled it to the top has vanished.

    The tourists are gone, the office towers surrounding it are largely empty and the restaurant’s 1,000-seat dining room is closed. Instead, dinner is cooked and served on its patio, and the scaled-down restaurant brings in about $12,000 a day — an 85 percent plunge in revenue, its chief executive said.

    Five months into the pandemic, the drastic turn of events at businesses like Bryant Park Grill & Cafe that are part of national chains shows how the economic damage in New York has in many cases been far worse than elsewhere in the country.

    In the heart of Manhattan, national chains including J.C. Penney, Kate Spade, Subway and Le Pain Quotidien have shuttered branches for good. Many other large brands, like Victoria’s Secret and the Gap, have kept their high-profile locations closed in Manhattan, while reopening in other states.Y

  150. JCer says:

    3b rents are depressed right now, don’t know if it will stay that way. A lot of people leaving, prices are softening but still quite high. If you want to rent an apartment in JC now is probably as good a time as any.

  151. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This guy is thinking just like me. Trying to find something that would attract my daughter so that I can teacher her life lessons.

    Competition has been destroyed…for now.

    grim says:
    August 11, 2020 at 8:43 pm
    If indoor dining isn’t permitted by the fall, this winter will be a bloodbath for NJ restaurants.

    If you have the money, consider purchasing a restaurant with a liquor license on the cheap. Or hell, just buy the liquor license and shutter the place, pocket the license. Wait. Profit.

    The likelihood of NJ legislature offering more options for liquor licenses seems just about impossible now, as it would decimate the value of existing licenses. Nobody in the legislature is going to consider sticking it to restaurants and license holders at this point.

  152. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Build business up, then sell it. Food business is ruthless.

  153. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You wouldn’t know value, or how to make money if it hit you on the head.

    3b says:
    August 11, 2020 at 8:52 pm
    My friend tells me JC rents and prices are coming down.

  154. 3b says:

    Pumps: I will pray for you.

  155. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    As soon as I see more appreciation on my rental, I’m
    Flipping it into nyc real estate. The hottest real estate in the USA while it’s undesirable…sign me up!!

    My dad told me I was a bad idea to buy real estate as I bought my first property during the dot com bubble…glad I sucked it up, and bought the property instead of stocks.

  156. 3b says:

    Jcer: That is what my friend said. They sold in BC and were renting in JC to see if they like it. Pandemic changed their minds on the crowded urban living thing. Considering Berkshires or northern Catskills now. They have a place in Rheboth Beach so we’re splitting time between JC and there.
    It was nice trying to have an adult conversation before the resident moron attempted to hijack it.

  157. Fabius Maximus says:

    Jersey City called 100% remote last week, so Elizabeth is not a surprise.

    Harris is a great pick. She was my 2nd choice after Warren.

    NE economy holds until Oct/Nov, once the weather kicks in, its lock the doors until March. Some places can heat the outdoor tents, but its open up indoors or die. We have been lucky in the NE. We got hit hard early and now we are green, while the rest of the country is deep red. We could reopen, but without sensible leadership from the WH, it’s futile. Donnie needs to come out with “Wear a Fcuk1`n Mask!” The wingnuts need to hear it or the Karens never go away.

    I’m taking it on a school by school basis. My kids schools are making all the right moves, so at this point all my kids are scheduled to go back.

  158. Phoenix says:

    “Not to be Debbie Downer, but does one ever ‘get better’ from HF?”

    Possibly, but no guarantees. Many times not 100 percent-it’s a crapshoot.

    Covid affects everyone differently. You can get it and not know it, or it can polish you off. Or anything in between.

    It’s like Russian roulette. Play at your own risk.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myocarditis

  159. Phoenix says:

    “DMV forms now online to make your experience that much better”

    I saw what you did there.

  160. Phoenix says:

    “5:40 Kamala gives me a semi.”

    We have medications to help you with that…

  161. Phoenix says:

    Libturd,

    They make that bed, they may find themselves sleeping in it sooner than they think.

  162. homeboken says:

    Lib – spot on with the NJEA, it has been my fear for a long time now that the Unions do not give two sh!TS about what the parents or students want.

    My question for the NJEA or any “keep schools closed” type.

    You say “we want to go back, when it’s safe. Right now it is not safe.”.

    Ok…so tell us what exact measure you need to see to determine when it is safe?

  163. homeboken says:

    Re: Kamala and Biden.

    CNN editor-at-large writes a piece on Harris. Best tidbit:.

    “Her resume suggests that she will be ready to step in, if and when Biden decides to step aside”.

    This is code for – we media types approve of this, go ahead and make Harris the nominee or make her POTUS right after inauguration day, we won’t question you DNC. In fact, we will claim it was a historic and brave decision. Get Bidens 1 month presidential busy completed fast!

  164. leftwing says:

    TY to all on the Hoboken feedback. Started looking after the New Year then March hit. Very hard to get a feel for what is ‘normal’ in any place right now….

  165. leftwing says:

    “I think too much capital leads to excesses like WeWork, pets.com, and pumped-up home prices. ”

    Yes and no.

    Agree that too much capital leads to excesses.

    Would offer we are in that position now, but the available capital is not ‘normal functioning’. It’s free money from the Fed rather than risk allocated capital with price discovery.

    So do we need more available capital right now? No, but only because the Fed inserted itself about a decade ago, blanket funding the economy then (and continuing now) indiscriminately.

    We need the ‘right’ type of capital available now.

    That is unless one believes an economy can exist long, hell intermediate, term where risk capital is diverted to consumption and leverage is made indiscriminately available by way of massive government debt.

    That sounds like some capitalist infused bastardized Frankenstein monster of the old (failed) Soviet five year plans.

  166. leftwing says:

    ^^^^meaning, everyone (businesses and individuals) ‘succeed’ until the entire charade collapses under it’s own weight.

  167. homeboken says:

    It’s time to bite the bullet –

    Private/parochial school recommendations anyone? I am in Morris County. I know of the big $ schools, trying to get my oldest into a school (3rd grade) and spend under $20k to do it.

  168. Juice Box says:

    Big announcement today coming from the Governor to allow 100% remote learning, school boards need to prove they cannot fulfill the current in-classroom learning guidelines from the state, so they are going to give them a chance to prove it, like Elizabeth who says several hundred teachers are refusing to return.

    For the teachers in the know are they taking a leave of absence? What does the contract entail here?

    https://www.nj.com/education/2020/08/nj-schools-will-be-allowed-to-start-all-remote-report-says-in-major-reversal-of-murphys-reopening-plans.html

  169. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Medical leave of absences are permitted in the contract. The teachers of Elizabeth decided en masse to take one to tie the board’s hands. You can’t hire 200+ teachers in 3 weeks. They have enough time hiring 5 teachers in 3 weeks. This was politically orchestrated by their local union.

    Abbott districts seems to be the ones behind this. Trenton, Jersey City, and now Elizabeth. I don’t think it is politically possible to pull this off in suburb districts where parents value education.

  170. Juice Box says:

    Blue- so they filed for a “Medical leave of absence” but are now going to work anyway?

    For Federal FLMA to be applied you actually have to be diagnosed as sick, that would also include stress, the fear of getting sick is stress for sure but not necessarily diagnosed for leave, but I am sure they can find doctors to diagnose it anyway.

    Anyway what happens when there is a vaccine sometime in the year 2021 and it is only 50% effective? Rinse and Repeat?

  171. Juice Box says:

    Point is Covid-19 isn’t going away, a vaccine will never be effective enough to get rid of it completely. But hey I get it people are scared, those that are stay home and file for disability. The rest of us need to get back to work, there are things to be done to keep society afloat, that includes effective education programs.

  172. Chicago says:

    This dude is an instant legend in my book

    “If they would’ve gotten something incited with the police, who’s gotta deal with it tomorrow? The community. Not them. “They’ll be somewhere sipping sangria somewhere. I’m telling you like it is.”

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/12/chicago-locals-fight-off-protesters-and-shut-down-blm-rally/

  173. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    My guess is, they did it en masse under union orders the past week. If you want to get an idea of your local’s position, scan their board minutes because people should have filed for a leave absence back in early June or July.

    There are a lot of people at my former district screaming to high heaven about having to go back. They are also hardcore lefties and this has become a politicized issue. They are in the minority here. My local has very little influence on the rank and file here. If they told us to do anything like this, we would likely ignore them.

  174. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    The Marxist movement will eventually fracture and implode when it’s seen for what it is. A widespread attempt to overturn the pillars of western society.

    It has little or nothing to do with racial justice other than using it as cover to advance the agenda and to divide up the spoils of collectivized resources. This will fail and has already begun to be and will continue to be a major calamity for the underprivileged who buy into the false promises.

  175. ExEssex says:

    11:11 the pillars of Western Society.
    Rich white guys?

  176. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    Too soon to say. lightyears away.

  177. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    Oh let’s see. Private property, the bill of rights, gender, police, marriage. You could argue schools, hard work and personal responsibility. The people on the streets have no use for any of it.

  178. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    If you thought the education gap was a problem before, just wait til the numbers come out two to three years down the road. Even Andrew Cuomo brought this up to try to curb this nonsense.

  179. ExEssex says:

    “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”

  180. ExEssex says:

    11:35 just look at Trump … hE’s aN iVy LeAguEr.

  181. Somerset says:

    This entire movement by the NJEA is becoming a major boon to private schools that are offering full in-school options. Catholic schools are getting flooded with applications.

    The daycare and community centers around here are capitalizing on this by offering glorified babysitting for K-8 kids to the tune of 1k+/month. The convoluted schedules and reopening plans from district to district are creating such a clusterf*ck that it’s no wonder Murphy just offered the option to be 100% virtual. End result in decent towns: kids go to private schools, daycare, or basement classes with a paid tutor, completely defeating the purpose of virtual school, to begin with.

    The real losers in this: poor kids. An entire year of education will be lost.

  182. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I officially set up my portable classroom that fits in the trunk of my car today. I have two easels that I clamp two 2 by 4 whiteboards to and join them together to have a 2 x 8 whiteboard. I am able to tutor or teach anywhere within driving distance in anyone’s backyard. It takes me less than 5 minutes to unload and setup.

  183. 3b says:

    NJEA May be sorry. School choice will definitely become more of an issue. Let people send their children to the school of their choice, and not have to pay the property taxes associated with the schools. Can’t even vote on the budget any more.

  184. ExEssex says:

    11:37 Naw, the kids will be fine. Education is for the weak.

  185. Fast Eddie says:

    The real losers in this: poor kids. An entire year of education will be lost.

    Nope. Parents will realize their kids are getting better quality through parochial schools and will switch for good. And then they’ll realize how much they’re getting fleeced by the public skrewl system via their outlandish property taxes. Also ask yourself why the administrators are getting paid six digit salaries, sitting home doing less than what they were doing before. At least they had to occasionally dress their bloated bodies and make an appearance. Now, they can just wrap a dirty, stinky sheet around their ugly frames, creating a larger divot on the couch while collecting a paycheck.

  186. Fast Eddie says:

    11:11 the pillars of Western Society.
    Rich white guys?

    They didn’t get rich by looting store fronts and spending whatever they had on body piercings and hair dye.

  187. D-FENS says:

    Looks like the NJ Supreme court sided with Murphy on the borrowing bill. Why the hell do we even have a state constitution?

  188. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Yeah, the real crime is 95% of the teachers are sitting silent while a vocal minority yells at the top of their lungs pissing off an entire nation of parents. Why would you speak out in favor of going back to work? I’m sure there is a media mob waiting to crucify you for “trying to kill people”.

  189. ExEssex says:

    12:01 No, they inherited it. Or in the case of DJT they fleeced investors, bankrupted multiple businesses, and committed outright fraud. Any questions?

  190. 3b says:

    Juice: Working everyday! Just doing it from comfort of home!!

  191. 3b says:

    Fast I would agree. But some won’t be able to pay property taxes, and 6k In parochial grammar school and 10k a year for High School.

  192. 3b says:

    Defens Courts are bought and paid for as well. The legislature will have full discretion on what the monies can be used for, and a great backstop with the property tax surcharge. Yeah we are the best and brightest!!

  193. ExEssex says:

    Fast has flogged his love of Catholick Skool for years on this here board. What he glosses over is how crappy the educations are from these places. Proven by his pining for this imbecile:

    “…..In the Nov. 9, 1992, issue of New York magazine, Trump described his views toward women. “You have to treat ’em like shit,” he said. A lifetime of sleazy, condescending behavior proves it.

    Why do you think Biden said early on that he would be selecting a woman to be his running mate? The data behind his thinking are mesmerizing. Going back to 1980, men have tended to gravitate toward Republicans, and women toward Democrats.

    But there are two key differences: First, there are a lot more women in America. They are 54% of the electorate, an eight-point advantage. Second, in proportional terms, a bigger percentage of that 54% turns out to vote than the smaller 46% of men. So in both absolute and relative terms, this is a double advantage for Democrats.

    In 1994, notes Pew Research, more women identified with Democrats than Republicans by a six-point margin (48% to 42%). By 2017, that margin had tripled: 56% to 37%.

    Those advantages help explain why Democrats won the popular vote in six of the past seven presidential elections — 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, 2012 and 2016 — while Republicans won just once, in 2004. And even then, the winner, George W. Bush, got 50.7%, not exactly an overwhelming margin.”

  194. D-FENS says:

    A unanimous decision by the NJ Supreme court. Murphy can borrow 10 billion and pay it back through your property tax assessment.

    https://secureservercdn.net/198.71.233.23/2d7.50d.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/a_82_19.pdf

  195. 3b says:

    Ex You are treading close to bigotry with your Trump comment. He went 2 years to Fordham University, a Catholic college. The rest of his education was private non religious, including Wharton. As for Catholic schools many of us went growing up in urban areas, and we were well educated. Some years we had almost 40 kids in a class. And Catholic schools today are providing a safe alternative where kids are actually receiving an education in deprived urban areas. Yes I know you will respond with the pedophile priests and you would be right on that point, and that point alone.

  196. Yo! says:

    D, move out of NJ, then you don’t need pay it back. I left 4 years ago, and I have no regrets. Basic tasks like getting a license renewed are easier in other states. Let’s see where the $9,900,000,000 goes.

  197. ExEssex says:

    12:45 Bigotry of Crappy Education? Most people think THEIR school is fine even great although they may believe everyone else’s school stinks.

    The truth is Kids that transferred into the public school where I was teaching were ALWAYS BEHIND academically. The teachers at Catholic schools are chronically underpaid and as a result turnover is a big problem.

    The reason most people attend parochial schools is so that they do not have to mix and mingle with scary black people. My guess, and it’s just a guess, is that Catholic schools through rampant abuse and sub-par academics have hurt more kids than they have helped.

  198. 3b says:

    Yo: We will probably get another stadium!! They spend it on whatever they want! And sports stadiums are great for corruption!!

  199. D-FENS says:

    Seems like there may be more lawsuits based on this language. What exactly is “revenue” and how do you define a shortfall?

    “But those projections are likely
    to continue to change in the months ahead, as the State Treasurer acknowledges. To avoid
    borrowing in excess of what the law allows, and to be faithful to the Emergency Exception,
    the Court requires that the Governor or the Treasurer certify the State’s projected revenue
    figures and the shortfall resulting from the pandemic before each tranche of borrowing.”

  200. Yo! says:

    Murphy: “I expertly forecast a $1 trillion shortfall, can I borrow it?”

    Rabner: “Yeah!”

    Murphy: “The constitution says I need to ask the voters, but that is a hassle, do I need to ask them?”

    Rabner: “Hell no!”

  201. D-FENS says:

    Rabner is Christie’s fault.

  202. Yo! says:

    How much of the $9.9 billion will go to American Dream?

    This feeding frenzy will be like no other.

  203. 3b says:

    Ex: You would know from your experience as a teacher with respect to the kids you encountered, so I can’t argue with you on that point. But you state parents send their kids to Catholic schools to keep away from scary Black kids, I could just as easily people move to predominantly White/Asian school districts to keep their kids away from scary Black kids. Your original point was Trump is who he is because of his Catholic education which was all of two years. That is a bigoted comment.

  204. 3b says:

    Yo:American Dream bonds are already in default. They had to get a Wisconsin political entity to issue the bonds to get the tax exemption.

  205. 3b says:

    These Ny ers that are fleeing to NJ, don’t know what they are in for. I guarantee that property tax surcharge put will be executed.

  206. Yo! says:

    3b, are the American Dream bonds in default, or just the mall of America bonds? I thought Triple 5 was stiffing Mall of America bondholders to fund American Dream bonds and American Dream losses. Will be interesting to know if American Dream taxes are being paid.

  207. Somerset says:

    ExEssex:

    No one around here is flouting how great these private schools are. For working parents with kids under the age of 10, it’s basically no schooling or private schools. Remote learning doesn’t happen that effectively at the younger ages without constant assistance from an adult. Throw in families with multiple kids and it becomes a choice between working or teaching them.

  208. 3b says:

    American Dream bonds missed an interest payment in March, so that is a technical default. They were issued in denominations of one hundred thousand, and sold only to QIB buyers.

  209. Happy Renter says:

    Cannon Hinnant.

    Say his name!

    Cannon Hinnant.

  210. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I did catholic school until 2nd grade and transferred in.

    Way ahead on cursive and handwriting.
    On par with math.
    Behind on a reading.

  211. ExEssex says:

    Your original point was Trump is who he is because of his Catholic education which was all of two years. That is a bigoted comment. No really my thought was Trump is supposed to be well-educated. His Catholic education isn’t a a concern. I do however find reading ads for Catholic and Parochial schools and seeing “Must embrace the teachings of Christ” and I think. Wow — Talk about indoctrination center.

  212. ExEssex says:

    1:46 Grim…..Please ban people who post under another person’s ID. I realize its the honor system here, but this is wrong…..

  213. 3b says:

    Ex Essex: We will leave it there.

  214. 3b says:

    BRT:Intersting. So not as bad in your experience. I would have thought above on reading, and sub par on math.

  215. Fast Eddie says:

    The truth is Kids that transferred into the public school where I was teaching were ALWAYS BEHIND academically.

    Not from the parochial schools they weren’t. Bullsh1t. It’s the other way around and everybody knows it.

  216. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Princeton parents start to change their mind.

    https://planetprinceton.com/2020/08/12/superintendent-number-of-princeton-parents-choosing-remote-only-schooling-option-is-growing/?fbclid=IwAR1f6Dx_tuSn3VMGCAb8X0wJKcDrNqdUUFcUSpHKwYs-qg7eotfNdG0KiTA

    The number of people who send children to public schools in Princeton who are choosing the remote-only instruction option for the fall has been increasing, Interim Superintendent of Schools Barry Galasso said on Tuesday night.

    “Thirty-eight percent of the public is now choosing the remote-only option,” he told the board at the public Zoom meeting Tuesday night. “The numbers seem to be growing in that direction.”

    Galasso also noted that 50 certified staff members in the district and 22 support staff members have requested accommodations to work from home. “It’s quite a number,” he said. As many as 104 district staff members could be seeking accommodations to work remotely.

    “We are getting to a tipping point where it’s going to be difficult to staff our schools to find replacements and to do both a hybrid and remote learning situation,” Galasso said.

    He encouraged parents to make a decision about plans for the fall, noting that changes could be made later if needed. Staff members should send documentation to the administration as soon as possible, he said.

    The administration for the public schools is putting together a final plan covering athletics, recommendations for hybrid and remote learning, and other issues. The plan will be presented at the school board’s next Zoom meeting on Tuesday.

    New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy is expected to make an announcement about schools today that could change district’s plans.

    School officials will host a series of community Zoom meetings Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday next week to discuss the plans. The Wednesday night meeting will be for community members in general, while Thursday will be for Spanish speaking residents, and Friday will be for parents of special needs students.

    Galasso also said the district is working to inventory all of its computer equipment to make sure each student will have a device in the fall for remote learning. Some laptops are on backorder because so many school districts across the country are ordering devices. The district is also working with Comcast to make sure some families without Internet access are connected. Galasso said the district has asked a private funder to pay subscription fees for 175 Comcast contracts, and to also fund 75 Wifi hotspots that would have unlimited access so kids can do research and work in devices at night.

    Realizing that childcare will also be an issue for some parents, the district is asking another private funder to provide 100 scholarships for children to attend childcare at the YMCA and another 30 scholarships for children to attend the YWCA preschool.

    Galasso said the district is focused on providing a robust remote learning plan. “It’s going to look different than it did last spring. Teachers will be better equipped and trained,” he said.

    Some teachers in the district have expressed anxiety on social media about returning to classrooms because of the COVID-19 pandemic, and some have contacted individual board members about their concerns. Galasso sent an email to staff last week telling them to not post anything about their concerns on social media, and to not contact individual board members.

    “We realize these are difficult times for many of our teachers. During this pandemic, the staff and administration need to work together to make any type of reopening, either remote or in-person, a success. I have had discussions with union leadership today, and we believe that teachers should express any concerns to the administrative staff and not on social media or to individual school board members. Addressing issues outside the chain of command is in conflict with the CBA that provides all staff a procedure to resolve their issues,” he wrote.

    “If a conversation with the principal of your building, your supervisor, or an administrator does not answer your concerns, please remember there is an agreed-upon process in your contract which should be followed. Mutual respect is the hallmark of our profession and should be honored,” Galasso wrote. “The union leadership recognizes that the superintendent is now directing all staff to follow established policies and procedures so that issues relating to reopening can be addressed by the educational professionals responsible for administration of our schools. The Superintendent also encourages parents and the Princeton community to follow the chain of command and see individual educators directly if there is an issue within a classroom.”

  217. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    BRT:Intersting. So not as bad in your experience. I would have thought above on reading, and sub par on math.

    It could have just been the 1st and 2nd grade teachers were bad. They were evil evil women. But, I remember, the idea of going to the library and checking out a book was completely foreign to us. There were 4 other kids that ended up transferring to the public school with me. When they made me check out a book to read in 3rd grade and asked me to actually read it at home, it was mind boggling. So, what did we do? We checked out books, let them sit on the shelf, and all failed when the teacher asked us to do a report two weeks later. This problem followed me into the 5th grade because we just didn’t ever develop good habits on this issue prior to. I would like to say that it followed me all the way into high school because I never actually read any of the books they gave me.

    Once I got to college and realized I could read 400 pages of a science textbook in a single day, I was off and running and turned the corner. In my 20s, when Bit Torrent came out, there was a massive file of various Physics and Chemistry textbooks in pdf form. We also had unlimited free printing at Rutgers Computer labs at the time. I probably read 30 or 40 textbooks from age 22 to age 28 just for knowledge. When I had to take data at my lab, a lot of it was sitting around for 15 minute at a time so I had to pass the time by somehow.

  218. Phoenix says:

    “At least they had to occasionally dress their bloated bodies and make an appearance. Now, they can just wrap a dirty, stinky sheet around their ugly frames, creating a larger divot on the couch while collecting a paycheck.”

    Damn that’s funny. Cause it’s true…

  219. D-FENS says:

    Uber pulling out of California completely over SF court forcing the company to treat the drivers as employees instead of independent contractors…same kinds of laws Democrats want to pass here in NJ. Colossal backfire.

  220. Fast Eddie says:

    Fyi, my A/C issue in my BMW: They raised the evaporator minimum temperature. Just to recall, went on a three hour trip over the weekend and the A/C began to lose air flow. I shut the system down and 20 to 30 minutes later, the A/C air flow was back to normal. As I originally suspected, it seems that the coils froze. So, they programmed the vehicle conversion to raise the evaporator minimum temperature.

  221. chicagofinance says:

    MEDIA

    Cord-Cutting Accelerates. Many Traditional Cable Networks Won’t Survive.

    By Eric J. Savitz

    The cable and telecom analyst Craig Moffett, co-founder of the research boutique MoffettNathanson, has been chronicling the snowballing cord-cutting trend for many months now. In part, his thesis has been that the industry is a victim of sports inflation as non-sports fans abandon ship.

    “By now, the vicious cycle of sports inflation will be familiar to almost all readers,” he writes. “Stop us if you’ve heard this: non-sports fans are defecting from the bundle…which starves sports networks of distribution, and therefore affiliate revenues…which leaves them with no choice but to raise prices…which must inevitably be passed along to consumers…forcing even more non-sports fans to defect from the bundle. And so on.”

    While the return of major sports after a long Covid-19-prompted lapse could slow the trend, Moffett sees a second even more damaging trend unfolding—the shift of quality content from basic cable networks to subscription and ad-supported streaming services, like AT&T’s (ticker: T) HBO Max, Comcast’s (CMCSA) Peacock, Walt Disney’s (DIS) Hulu and Disney+, Netflix (NFLX), and a growing list of others.

    “Call it the cycle of content redirection,” he writes. “As more and more people leave the traditional ecosystem for direct-to-consumer substitutes, programmers are increasingly moving their best content to their DTC platforms. This redirection not only makes the substitutes better and better, it simultaneously starves the traditional ecosystem of fresh content, making the traditional ecosystem less and less appealing…forcing even more people to defect from the bundle. And so it goes.”

    He points out that a key driver for the trend is that Wall Street has gone ga-ga for direct-to-consumer services. “Disney has already been crowned a winner for its bold commitment to growing Disney+, notwithstanding their exposure to precisely the secular decline of traditional networks that the new DTC model is racing to replace,” he writes. Moffett notes that Disney is shutting its linear networks in Europe and moving the new live-action version of Mulan to a pay-per-view model for Disney+ subscribers. While the company saw a 42% drop in June-quarter revenues, the stock rallied 10% on growth in Disney+. And he notes that a similar dynamic played out at ViacomCBS (VIAC).

    Meanwhile, Moffett also notes that the virtual cable bundles created to offer a cheaper alternative to traditional pay TV are collapsing. Those services—known as virtual MVPDs (multichannel video programming distributors)—have ratcheted up prices to the point where they offer only a modest price advantage over traditional cable. He notes that since their launch in mid-2018, services like YouTube TV were priced in the $35 range. But YouTube TV recently upped its price to $64.99 a month, prompting some subscribers to shift to cheaper services or give up on the segment altogether.

    Moffett says the problem with the business is that while they still offer some price advantage, the services don’t address another issue: bundling of channels that people don’t want. “By replicating the same sports and entertainment bundle that customers were fleeing when they left their legacy distributors, the vMVPDs fell into precisely the same trap as their legacy distribution peers,” he writes. “‘Live’ streaming of pre-recorded entertainment programming is an obvious oxymoron, and customers have gotten the joke. Live sports were arguably the last best reason for choosing a vMVPD over a sampling of [subscription] services. In Q1, sports stopped, and they didn’t return in Q2. (Whether their partial return in Q3 is enough to make a difference remains to be seen…we sort of doubt it.)”

    Moffett says it remains to be seen if the market continues to be charmed by subscription video models. “Whether the market’s currently bullish view on this latest lifeboat turns out to be right or wrong remains to be seen, but the new narrative isn’t lost on the companies themselves,” he notes. “Faced with the fading fortunes of their legacy cable networks, and stupendous valuations for their DTC alternatives, companies are being given no choice but to begin redirecting content from one to the other.

    “They know full well, of course, that this will only seal the fate of the cable networks they are increasingly abandoning.”

    Write to Eric J. Savitz at eric.savitz@barrons.com

  222. chicagofinance says:

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    August 12, 2020 at 3:31 pm
    MEDIA

    Cord-Cutting Accelerates. Many Traditional Cable Networks Won’t Survive.

    By Eric J. Savitz

    The cable and telecom analyst Craig Moffett, co-founder of the research boutique MoffettNathanson, has been chronicling the snowballing cord-cutting trend for many months now. In part, his thesis has been that the industry is a victim of sports inflation as non-sports fans abandon ship.

    “By now, the vicious cycle of sports inflation will be familiar to almost all readers,” he writes. “Stop us if you’ve heard this: non-sports fans are defecting from the bundle…which starves sports networks of distribution, and therefore affiliate revenues…which leaves them with no choice but to raise prices…which must inevitably be passed along to consumers…forcing even more non-sports fans to defect from the bundle. And so on.”

  223. chicagofinance says:

    While the return of major sports after a long Covid-19-prompted lapse could slow the trend, Moffett sees a second even more damaging trend unfolding—the shift of quality content from basic cable networks to subscription and ad-supported streaming services, like AT&T’s (ticker: T) HBO Max, Comcast’s (CMCSA) Peac0ck, Walt Disney’s (DIS) Hulu and Disney+, Netflix (NFLX), and a growing list of others.

  224. chicagofinance says:

    “Call it the cycle of content redirection,” he writes. “As more and more people leave the traditional ecosystem for direct-to-consumer substitutes, programmers are increasingly moving their best content to their DTC platforms. This redirection not only makes the substitutes better and better, it simultaneously starves the traditional ecosystem of fresh content, making the traditional ecosystem less and less appealing…forcing even more people to defect from the bundle. And so it goes.”

    He points out that a key driver for the trend is that Wall Street has gone ga-ga for direct-to-consumer services. “Disney has already been crowned a winner for its bold commitment to growing Disney+, notwithstanding their exposure to precisely the secular decline of traditional networks that the new DTC model is racing to replace,” he writes. Moffett notes that Disney is shutting its linear networks in Europe and moving the new live-action version of Mulan to a pay-per-view model for Disney+ subscribers. While the company saw a 42% drop in June-quarter revenues, the stock rallied 10% on growth in Disney+. And he notes that a similar dynamic played out at ViacomCBS (VIAC).

    Meanwhile, Moffett also notes that the virtual cable bundles created to offer a cheaper alternative to traditional pay TV are collapsing. Those services—known as virtual MVPDs (multichannel video programming distributors)—have ratcheted up prices to the point where they offer only a modest price advantage over traditional cable. He notes that since their launch in mid-2018, services like YouTube TV were priced in the $35 range. But YouTube TV recently upped its price to $64.99 a month, prompting some subscribers to shift to cheaper services or give up on the segment altogether.

    Moffett says the problem with the business is that while they still offer some price advantage, the services don’t address another issue: bundling of channels that people don’t want. “By replicating the same sports and entertainment bundle that customers were fleeing when they left their legacy distributors, the vMVPDs fell into precisely the same trap as their legacy distribution peers,” he writes. “‘Live’ streaming of pre-recorded entertainment programming is an obvious oxymoron, and customers have gotten the joke. Live sports were arguably the last best reason for choosing a vMVPD over a sampling of [subscription] services. In Q1, sports stopped, and they didn’t return in Q2. (Whether their partial return in Q3 is enough to make a difference remains to be seen…we sort of doubt it.)”

    Moffett says it remains to be seen if the market continues to be charmed by subscription video models. “Whether the market’s currently bullish view on this latest lifeboat turns out to be right or wrong remains to be seen, but the new narrative isn’t lost on the companies themselves,” he notes. “Faced with the fading fortunes of their legacy cable networks, and stupendous valuations for their DTC alternatives, companies are being given no choice but to begin redirecting content from one to the other.

    “They know full well, of course, that this will only seal the fate of the cable networks they are increasingly abandoning.”

    Write to Eric J. Savitz at eric.savitz@barrons.com

  225. grim says:

    Pumpkin if you ever impersonate someone again I’ll ban you for life.

    Realize, I can see everyones IP addresses from the beginning of time. I know when you are at home, at work, and on your mobile.

  226. grim says:

    Cord-Cutting Accelerates. Many Traditional Cable Networks Won’t Survive.

    They’ll just charge $150 a month for internet access….

  227. ExEssex says:

    3:34 Damn…..Pumpkin….what a pathological…….schmuck.

  228. SomeOne says:

    Grim,

    They’ll just charge $150 a month for internet access….

    So true. The service sucks, yet the price keeps going up. Lack of alternatives in some (or many) areas means there is nothing we can do about it.

  229. 3b says:

    Ex /Grim: And he has said repeatedly he does not post under other names. Absolutely pathetic.

  230. 3b says:

    Fios has some new feature called Pluto TV have not checked it out yet.

  231. chicagofinance says:

    We added my daughter to our AT&T phone plan and the cost of the plan went DOWN with unlimited data. Although we still use the Altice high speed internet and wifi at home, during our power outage, we were creating mobile hot spots. Honestly, the only one of us that noticed any degradation in connectivity was my son due to the gaming data demand.

    I was getting a bit annoyed with Altice because they kept upping the price every few months. Honestly, the DVR is the key driver for me. We have no competition with FiOS due to buried services. It will never come to us.

    I called just before the power outage last week, and just for asking, Altice dropped the bill 40%. First cut since maybe 2015 or earlier…..

    grim says:
    August 12, 2020 at 3:43 pm
    Cord-Cutting Accelerates. Many Traditional Cable Networks Won’t Survive.

    They’ll just charge $150 a month for internet access….

  232. chicagofinance says:

    To be clear…. no haggling… I was going to use the AT&T unlimited data as a negotiating tool….. didn’t need it.

  233. grim says:

    5G has the potential to kill wireline internet.

    Keep in mind, in many places being able to hang a wire on the pole is municipal granted monopoly.

    In New Jersey, the only reason that FIOS was permitted to complete with Cable was because they were basically still classified as the phone company. Someone like Google Fiber? They wouldn’t be permitted to operate in most municipalities in NJ, unless they wanted to dig their way to your house.

    Another possible game changer – delivery through power line infrastructure.

  234. Nomad says:

    Eddie, “Now, they can just wrap a dirty, stinky sheet around their ugly frames”

    Toga?

    Microsoft Surface Duo, seems cool.

    https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/12/21364633/microsoft-surface-duo-release-date-pricing-features-specs

  235. SomeOne says:

    Fast Eddie,

    They didn’t get rich by looting store fronts and spending whatever they had on body piercings and hair dye.

    Don’t you think Jim Crow laws, share cropping, lynchings, etc., and then the war on drugs have an oversized impact on how some minorities (AA) have been affected?

  236. SomeOne says:

    chi,

    What was the negotiating process? I tried asking and they basically came back with a counter offer of more speed for 10 bucks more!

    I have only internet for about $100/mo after taxes and all.

  237. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Murphy’s complaining about unemployment system unfeasible is hilarious. Why doesn’t he just raise taxes to pay for it? Isn’t that what he campaigned on? The Goldman genius can’t figure out how to come up with $100 for $300 from the Fed? How about a state issued processing fee of $100 for anyone collecting unemployment?

  238. 1987 Condo says:

    “Must embrace the teachings of Christ”……I hope so! It’s a religious school! At least I made the decision to send my kids to catholic school mostly on religious reasons….I, however, delusional I may be, wanted them to understand their responsibility in life in general.

    Both now out of college and got jobs right away. They are off my dole!!!!!!!

    Finally, I have already voted for a female VP candidate, does that give me a pass this time? It didn’t help then in getting the woman vote…

  239. joyce says:

    While not identical, didn’t FedEx lose a class action lawsuit regarding driver misclassification? That said, Amazon is doing what appears to me is exactly what FedEx did… and they can get away with everything.

    D-FENS says:
    August 12, 2020 at 3:21 pm
    Uber pulling out of California completely over SF court forcing the company to treat the drivers as employees instead of independent contractors…same kinds of laws Democrats want to pass here in NJ. Colossal backfire.

  240. ExEssex says:

    4:29 Sure, I get that. But what about schools with their hands out for tax payer money that are pushing a religion and won’t hire people that are not a part of that? That is my issue with the whole thing. And why again are Churches Tax exempt when they are preaching politics 24×7 from the pulpit??

  241. chicagofinance says:

    left: Instead of moving to Hoboken, just follow the advice of Neil Young.

    Sample and Hold
    Hair: Blonde
    Eyes: Blue
    Weight: 110
    Disposition: Even
    Mood Code: Rotary Adjustable

    I need a unit to sample and hold
    But not the lonely one
    A new design, new design.

    I need a unit to sample and hold
    But not the jealous one
    A new design, new design.

    I need a unit to sample and hold
    But not the angry one
    A new design, new design.

    We’ll send it out right away
    Satisfaction guaranteed.
    Please specify
    The color of skin and eye
    We know you’ll be happy.

    Don’t hesitate to give us a call
    We know you’ll be satisfied
    When you energize
    And see your unit come alive
    We know you’ll be happy.

    Perfection in every detail
    Fabricated from
    the curl of the hair
    To the tip of the nail
    Because our units never fail
    We know you’ll be happy.

    I need a unit to sample and hold.

    Don’t hesitate to give us a call
    We know you’ll be satisfied
    When you energize
    And see your unit come alive
    We know you’ll be happy.

    I need a unit to sample and hold.

    But not the lonely one
    A new design, new design

    Perfection in every detail,
    new design

  242. Fast Eddie says:

    Don’t you think Jim Crow laws, share cropping, lynchings, etc., and then the war on drugs have an oversized impact on how some minorities (AA) have been affected?

    No, I don’t.

  243. ExEssex says:

    4:39 you really dig that tune!

  244. homeboken says:

    Microsoft Duo is a slick piece of hardware but I predict a flop and I am a big MS Surface user.

    There is no 5G capability, the battery life isn’t great, camera is very pedestrian and the lack of a front facing screen are big negatives. Add to that the $1,400 price tag and I can’t see the duo doing well against say, the Samsung Noe 5G, which is more powerful, better battery life.

    The duo doesn’t have the guts to justify the price. You are paying for the hinge, that novelty wears off pretty fast.

  245. joyce says:

    What type/size of impact, if any, do you think it had?

    Fast Eddie says:
    August 12, 2020 at 4:39 pm
    Don’t you think Jim Crow laws, share cropping, lynchings, etc., and then the war on drugs have an oversized impact on how some minorities (AA) have been affected?

    No, I don’t.

  246. 3b says:

    1987 : I went to Catholic school growing up in the Bronx, there really was no choice for many reasons, but I sent my kids to public school as in our mind it was one of the reasons to move to the suburbs. I know people who sent their kids to Catholic school and they did it for religious reasons, I know one in particular who did it as he liked to brag it was private, always got a kick out of that. It always amazed me how some middle and upper middle class Catholics start to copy the same group of people, who despised their Catholic immigrant parents or grandparents. I did as well in that I had to take up golf back in the day, as it was expected. I hated it, such a bore, and so did quite a few who were WASPs and Jews. We did enjoy the clubhouse after of course!! As for Catholic

  247. 3b says:

    Fast; I think you are way off on that comment. It had a huge impact, does it mean it can be used as a catchall for everything no, but it certainly had an impact. My immigrant Irish Father always said had the Black people been given a fair chance at the end of the Civil War, we never would have had all the problems with race; I believe he was right.

  248. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    Again, they were always leaving. From someone else’s words, not mine.

    “For some New Yorkers, urban life is a phase, to be experienced between college and the birth of a first or second child. The question of moving to the suburbs is not “whether,” so much as “when.”

    Now with the pandemic, the timetable for departure is accelerated. “The calls started coming in: ‘We’re ready,’” said Janey Varvara, a real estate agent with William Raveis in Scarsdale, N.Y. “Everyone’s schedule changed dramatically.”

    And the question has shifted to “where.””

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/realestate/coronavirus-escape-suburbs-new-york.html#click=https://t.co/y6Qd9YM6QQ

  249. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wow, this place is messed up. You are either full of sh!t, or someone is impersonating my address.

    BTW, same crap happens to me. I’ve said it many times before, but no one cares. You all are in on it, that’s why. You know someone goes my handle and tries to mock me. They even go under other handles to mock me. Well, it’s not me people…same thing just happened to Essex. Whoever it is, get a life..and I’ll take the blame for you, don’t worry.

    grim says:
    August 12, 2020 at 3:34 pm
    Pumpkin if you ever impersonate someone again I’ll ban you for life.

    Realize, I can see everyones IP addresses from the beginning of time. I know when you are at home, at work, and on your mobile.

  250. Libturd says:

    Kamala, check.
    NJ Supreme Court, check.
    NJEA, check.
    Trump? Just a matter of time.

    I’m not sure who asked me whether or not I felt it was safe for kids to return to schools and if not now when?

    My answer is quite simple. When parents aren’t giant pussies and convince their kids to wear masks outside of the classrooms where they will certainly be required.

    My older son plays hockey (and made high honor roll and varsity as a freshman). The ice rinks have reopened with rules which make it extremely unlikely that an infected player will spread the disease even if they have it. For example, the closed the locker rooms and you must get equipped before entering the arena. Prior to entering the arena, you must fill out an online Covid survey and they take your temperature and assign you one of 26 seats which are positioned all around the facility both in the rink areas as well as in the lobby and party rooms. If you don’t have a mask, they will give one to you. Once inside, you are only able to bring your stick, gloves, skates and water bottles. No bags are allowed in the rink. You are to sit in the seat masked, putting your skates on and remain there until the ice is ready for you. The mask is brought to the benches where it is not removed until you are on the ice. No more than 13 skaters per bench so the bench is spread out too. Everyone follows the rules to the t or you are removed and banned.

    Then when the ice session is over, the skaters return to their seats, remove their skates and exit the facility. Outside the facility, there are picnic tables where 12 of the 13 skaters immediately remove their masks as they are huffing and puffing while they catch their breath. The rink lets the skaters leave their hockey bags outside on the tables where most of the skaters remove their sweaty equipment, socks, jerseys, etc., while they mingle and converse. All of the precautions set for the safe opening of the rink are destroyed in two seconds. This is how I KNOW and YOU KNOW how it will be in schools. My son is ostracized by his friends for dressing at home and for not getting changed out afterwards. I told him to explain that he could easily kill his brother if he brought Covid home, but you know how 15 year-olds are. But he has his dad’s thick skin, so it’s not a big deal to him, nor is it to me. In reality, all of his friends and teammates are as dumb as a box of rocks. We both accept this and move on.

    When parents are willing to convince their children (like I have) that wearing masks is the only way to stop the spread of Covid, then schools and just about everything else should be opened. I am not unreasonable. The problem is that the average American is as dumb as a box of rocks.

    I heard from some friends where the rinks opened sooner in PA that it’s hit and miss and it really depends on how seriously the coaches are taking it. My son has a great coach, but the dude is like Jack LaLanne so he has no fear of the covid nor does he convey the need for one to his team.

  251. 1987 Condo says:

    I, myself, went to public school in NY till HS and then went to a catholic HS. In retrospect, my public education was great as was my HS. My kids went to the parochial grammar school in town, adequate at best, my son went to SHP and that was good, my daughter went to MSDA. I’d like my money back for that, they ( students and teachers) were probably more harmful to her self esteem than helpful.

    (My wife and her 3 sisters did catholic school k-12 in Brooklyn…so there you go)

    Now I’d some volunteer committee financial work for my pariah and the Archdiocese.

  252. SomeOne says:

    3b,

    Thanks. Here is one example of unfair deal… https://time.com/5562869/reconstruction-history/
    ===
    In South Carolina, for example, the state university that had been integrated during Reconstruction was swiftly shut down and reopened three years later for whites only. That color line remained in place there until 1963.
    ===

  253. 3b says:

    And the madness continues!!

  254. 1987 condo says:

    Pariah = parish, lol!

  255. 3b says:

    1987: We all did Catholic school even College, as growing up in NYC back then no one went away to college. Had some great teachers and some nut jobs!! My kids did the public high school, blue ribbon blah blah, and I was not all that impressed. We stayed on top of them, otherwise they would have only been expected to do the bare minimum at school. And there were some bad teachers, and I don’t mean just nut jobs, but bad, should not have been in the profession. And some of the younger ones did not give a crap, perhaps it was age. One of mine was painfully shy and had issues in one area, and one subject area and the school from administration on down did not give a crap. Fortunately we stepped in and got the help needed on our dime, but they were all put on notice, that we were not going to put up with their nonsense.

    My views have changed from being a fervent supporter of public education to one of indifference my experience may color my opinion some what but certainly not in total. I now believe parents should have a choice and be able to opt out of paying for public schools if they are not utilizing them. Some healthy competition is required I believe.

  256. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Aka …my kids are done with school. So lower taxes by giving me the option to opt out of my public education.

    If you don’t support a public education system, please leave America. It was built on it. You claim it is failure due to lack of competition, but history says the system knocked or out of the park.

    “My views have changed from being a fervent supporter of public education to one of indifference my experience may color my opinion some what but certainly not in total. I now believe parents should have a choice and be able to opt out of paying for public schools if they are not utilizing them. Some healthy competition is required I believe.”

  257. leftwing says:

    “Parents will realize their kids are getting better quality through parochial schools and will switch for good. And then they’ll realize how much they’re getting fleeced by the public skrewl system via their outlandish property taxes. Also ask yourself why the administrators are getting paid six digit salaries…”

    Yeah, good fcuking luck with that one….

    No insult to anyone on this board (well maybe one person) but the above will never happen….you are asking the typical Jersey resident to string together a few if/then thoughts and come to a logical conclusion…lol…the typical nimrod has no desire to even attempt to do so provided some dumbass poll in a third rate website ‘magazine’ ranks their school district ‘outstanding’, Zillow shows their home value increasing, and there’s a BS leased BMW three series (overpaid of course) sitting in the driveway….reality hits when their idiot kid from a ‘blue ribbon’ district gets rejected from flyover State schools whose residents said nimrod mocked for a decade in a thinly veiled attempt to feel better about himself and he has to write nearly full tuition checks to a State he abhorred for his kid to get a useless degree over six years for what is essentially a trade that pays 40k annually……..

  258. leftwing says:

    “11:11 the pillars of Western Society.
    Rich white guys?”

    No, how about anyone who provides a good or service for which individual citizens freely and collectively agree to compensate said person at a living wage?

    This would, of course, not include anyone with ‘community organizer’ or ‘reverends’ of ‘churches’ in abandoned basements on their resumes….

    Oh, oops, sorry did I just say that? You betcha. Get their lazy, useless, loudmouthed protesting asses in real jobs or STFU.

  259. leftwing says:

    “Looks like the NJ Supreme court sided with Murphy on the borrowing bill. Why the hell do we even have a state constitution?”

    I’m happy. Declining the bill would have thrown everything into limbo and Murphy would have to extend the pain by going around to various Fed agencies begging someone to bail NJ out of the hole at the bottom of the outhouse.

    This way is better. Taking on the additional debt gets us one step closer to the inevitable bankruptcy of this State without the embarrassment of walking around like a pauper.

  260. zapaza19 says:

    Being that this is a Real Estate blog (supposedly), I am reminded of my Rutgers MBA professor, Mr. Marshall. This guy was black, tough and ahead of his time. He knew the R.E. rules of investing and wealth building.

    He did rage, though.

    One rage was against all the hucksters that lived along Springfield Ave in Newark who had their one room chapels and got away with being tax-exempt.

    One other rage of his was screaming at me when I fell asleep in his class after a long day at MLPF&S. Back in the earlier 80’s. Going to night MBA classes was tough after commuting from Bound Brook to Wall Street and back along the Newark Subway. One time I fell asleep on a subway ride and wound up at the last stop. Warren St. Had to go up to the street. Looked like Dresden after the war. Since I needed exact change to get back on and didn’t have any I walked to the nearest business… a bar. Since I had a suit and trench coat, the patrons never looked at me. They kept their eyes straight ahead. Thought I was a cop. I acted like it, too. I had to. Got my change. Didn’t blink and took off.

  261. JCer says:

    exEssex your view on catholic education isn’t really fair. Catholic schools just like anything else are of extremely varying quality. The only thing I know for sure is the really bad catholic schools in urban areas essentially go out of business while the even worse public schools are teaching kids at a cost of 23k per year which you and I are paying for with our income taxes.

    For example Regis in NYC is very good school, as is Del Barton or even Seton Hall Prep. There is also nothing wrong with catholic colleges like Georgetown, Notre Dame, Fordham, etc. You can hate the catholic church but they are nothing if not efficient operators.

    Left nails it, you’ll never kill the beast which is the public school system, only the ultra orthodox Jews have succeeded there most everyone else sees the need for public education as a common good or is too lazy to get involved in local politics. Or to Left’s point they are too stupid to realize and to lazy to do anything to stop their money from being squandered.

    At some point people in this state should wake up and realize the issue is the funding mechanism who really thinks it is a good idea to fund nearly 100% of education expense from property taxes? Yes our schools waste money have bloated administration and higher costs due to higher salaries a result of being a higher cost location but even that isn’t the crux of the problem. We knew about the problem in the 70’s, it is why NJ instituted an income tax. There in lies the problem a progressive government unwilling to make the hard choices and bent on wielding state dollars into political patronage pits. Make no mistake your tax dollars do not go to education they go to politically connected people in our urban ghettos to essentially buy votes. Fix the schools, give school choice, why? If they did that they couldn’t ask for more money to solve a problem they have no intention of solving…….

  262. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    With 80% opting in school and 20% opting out in my district, high schoolers are on an alternating schedule.

    That means, my class of 24 has 5 kids virtual. The remaining 19 are split over two days. I can have a class of 10 socially distant. I can even run labs with social distancing with 6 ft extension cords on our detectors. I can do this, and it’s not going to be difficult to pull off.

  263. Phoenix says:

    “but the dude is like Jack LaLanne so he has no fear of the covid nor does he convey the need for one to his team.”

    Take your chances. My ex colleague was the epitome of health, yet it nailed him. Of course his career put him directly into the firing line-sticking a tube into a Covid patient’s trachea is high exposure. So there is that.

    LW, may need a new car soon. Are we jacking up sales taxes in the near future?

    And on the news tonight, someone shot a military helicopter shot over Virginia- America’s got some serious problems that are going to get much worse.

  264. ExEssex says:

    6:33 it’s not just Catholic schools. I reject Yeshivas too.
    We explored Jewish schools once and were told they spend 50%
    of their time on ‘Jewish studies’ No thanks.
    If I want my kid to believe in magic I’ll have her watch David Copperfield
    Videos. She went to Chatham Day school for middle school because my district sucked terribly. So there is that. $40k a year.

  265. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    so the superintendent at my local just pulled a 180 and switched to full remote learning. Murphy just screwed the entire state.

  266. leftwing says:

    Lib, which rink? FH? Also, was that a team practice or a rink clinic?

    Just looking for comparisons….A lot at this level seems to be in flux and there appear to be no ‘best practices’ from anyone other than state (ie. USAH)….

  267. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    ok, so, here’s my new fresh take. Murphy just screwed everybody. I just got an email from our HR 30 minutes ago.


    Elementary, K-5
    Anticipated Leave Replacement Teachers

    Middle School
    Anticipated Leave Replacement Teachers
    All instructional disciplines, general and special education

    High School
    Anticipated Leave Replacement Teachers
    All instructional disciplines, general and special education

    Special Services
    Anticipated Leave Replacement Educational Services Personnel

    So, basically, they were flooded with requests to either take leave of absences or work remotely. Usually, they list the specific positions. I think you have a good possibility that every district magically goes virtual tomorrow.

  268. Libturd says:

    One by one, they will all fall. Even those that open will close at the first scare. Can’t say I didn’t warn you all. Nor am I happy about it, just to be clear.

  269. ExEssex says:

    100% virtual out here in LALA Land.
    It’s been thought through and should be OK.
    Not ideal though. But concepts can be taught.
    Technology will be leveraged. Some kids will do alright.
    I’m with BRT though, they’ll be long term mental health
    issues stemming from this whole affair.

  270. Fabius Maximus says:

    Talking to a local Super off the record, they were planning for opening and then shutdown by Nov 1st at the latest. This way, less teachers bail and there is more of a chance for a decent year. The kids are h0sed anyway.

    Interesting discussion on the Cath0lic schools. Home at this point you are probably looking at wait listing. No room at the inn.

    There are a lot of disparities here. Delbarton is $40K, SHP is $18K. If you are not in already, you can pretty much forget SHP. I have some friends with kids there and they love it.

  271. Fabius Maximus says:

    Donnie going to Fordham is a funny. College will take anyone, but its interesting that he now identifies himself as Evangel1cal. I bet he has yet to set foot inside Washington Cathedral.

    Great speech by Harris today. G0P have no answer. This will come down to voter suppression and election interference.

  272. joyce says:

    Does anyone have a clue what the statistics need to show for Murphy to take the next step towards reopening in whatever phase?

  273. Fabius Maximus says:

    Late show posted a great parody video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csYBj0AgBdw

  274. 3b says:

    Fab: As I said Donnie went to Fordham for 2 years and was raised as a Presbyterian.

  275. 3b says:

    Bergen Catholic is 17k a year a big number to be sure, but once you are done with it you are done paying. Sports crazed school, don’t know much about the academics, but for some BC is like a cult.

  276. ExEssex says:

    People are clannish they are joiners and they love these places.

  277. ExEssex says:

    I say this not in jest but you can bet suicides will increase this year across Ohio.
    What on earth are football fans going to do? Viewership craters for NBA. No college ball.

  278. Phoenix says:

    “If I want my kid to believe in magic I’ll have her watch David Copperfield”

    Thanks for the laugh.

  279. Fast Eddie says:

    Great speech by Harris today.

    LMFAO!

  280. Fast Eddie says:

    Viewership craters for NBA.

    The league is still around?

  281. Phoenix says:

    The two income trap.

    Americans fell for it. Oh well.

    For those who have problems with the school systems, it’s the mommies. Mommies pro-mask, mommies against mask, mommies pro-vaccine, mommies against vaccines-mommies against drunk driving, mad mommies everywhere.

    And mommies that don’t want to work or teach so cry to their unions so they can stay home, wrap a dirty, stinky sheet around their ugly frames, create divot on the couch while collecting a paycheck-then ask hubby to buy a new couch.

  282. 3b says:

    Article in Bloomberg about Kingston NY in the Catskills, apparently they have the fastest rising home prices in the country, due to the exodus from NYC; those people won’t be commuting to NYC any more; work from home with perhaps an occasional trip to the office assuming there still is an office.

  283. Fabius Maximus says:

    Greatness Gary, 4 lines to define a presidency!

    “He inherited the longest economic expansion in history from Barack Obama and Joe Biden. And then, like everything else he inherited, he ran it straight into the ground,” she said of Trump.
    “This is what happens when we elect a guy who just isn’t up for the job,” Harris said. “Our country ends in tatters and so does our reputation around the world.”

  284. Fabius Maximus says:

    I don’t get College football. 100K descending on Columbus for a Buckeye game?

    Back in 2010, we had some neighbors who where BIG fans. He invited me round for a few beers to watch a game. Wisconsin as a 18 seed. I thought I was on safe ground. I don’t have any allegiance and a good knowledge of the game.

    So WI return the kickoff for a TD and score again 5 mins later. I spent the next two hours with a guy alternating between deep depress1ve moods where I thought he was going to cry and supressed rage, where I thought he would explode. I’m just trying to stay neutral and enhance the positives of every Ohio play. Final whistle he bails upstairs and I make a quiet and quick exit. That game was never ever mentioned again anytime we met and we moved away shortly after.

    Box score for those interested. https://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=302890275

  285. Libturd says:

    LW,

    Floyd which is now MSU rink. Practice. First tourney is the EJ showcase on the 28th. But that’s already been reduced to a complete sh1t show. No spectators and max 10 players on bench per half. Half? Yes half. So they can switch out players for the 2nd half so everyone gets a chance to play. Would love to hear the science.

    Worst of all. there is enough circumference around a standard rink to easily fit two spectators per kid with 8 feet of separation. I’m Covid crazy and know that this would be safe. Rinks are huge!

    Whatever. I think I just threw out $4,500!

  286. joyce says:

    Reno 911:
    Cop unintentionally shoots man after being hit by deputy’s TASER The deputy fired a TASER at the suspect but missed, instead striking a Reno police officer in the knee

  287. Fabius Maximus says:

    True Greatness Gary.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump Administration wants to change the definition of a showerhead to let more water flow, addressing a pet peeve of the president who complains he isn’t getting wet enough.

    Publicly talking about the need to keep his hair “perfect,” President Donald Trump has made increasing water flow and dialing back long held appliance conservation standards — from light bulbs to toilets to dishwashers — a personal issue.
    https://apnews.com/083ef5555ef82c015e2f37f1822c0d78

  288. Fabius Maximus says:

    Kingston, while ripe for Gentrification, I think some of those buyers are in for a bit of a shock!.

    Rh1nebck over the river is a better bet.

  289. 3b says:

    Fab: Kingston has potential Rhinebeck better I agree. I believe IBM had a big facility in Kingston years ago.

  290. Fabius Maximus says:

    How often where you within 6ft of another parent at a regular game, for the most part everyone is spread round the glass.

    ” I think I just threw out $4,500!”, it’s hockey, you got out cheap. Add in the equipment and the travel and the early starts for a 6am ice, and you realise how much you love your kid.

  291. Fabius Maximus says:

    3b they still have a huge presence in Poughkeepsie which is why the other side of the Hudson makes more sense.

    Kingston has a LOT of potential, but its a LOT of risk.

  292. 3b says:

    Fab: Did not know they were in Poughkeepsie. It appears some are skipping the close to NYC suburbs and going all the way with I presume no planned intention of going back to NYC.

  293. Fabius Maximus says:

    At some point the right are going to have to account for the attack on the USPS. If you are that much against it, come out and say it. But this attack from within will have consequences way beyond just trying to stop vote by mail.

    Where do you stand on this? Just looking at the amount of Meds that are shipped to people by USPS. How many people choose three month supply by mail to save on the costs.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1293678950569451520

  294. JCer says:

    3b Bergen Catholic is a good high school but yes sports crazy by the time you get done with the fees and everything almost all of the good catholic high schools in NJ are 20k, Delbarton is 40k. The yeshiva schools are even worse than catholic schools some provide a very good education others it is hard to even describe them as schools.

    exEssex I think you exaggerate how bad your district was in NJ, I’m pretty certain from your posts you lived in West Orange. I know people who live there and who teach in the district, while not the best it is far from the worst. Most public schools in California are worse…..just saying

  295. ExEssex says:

    You are not mistaken on the CA thing. WO was awesome in many many ways, their middle schools were terrible. I didn’t want to subject my kid to the dysfunction.
    Yeah, CA is just weird as hell but we did find a nice place in a decent district. It’s no High Pressure cooker or Ivy League pipeline, but it’s been pretty good. But yes I’m general and in under served communities the schools are dubious. Weathers nice tho.

  296. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Some people like to make wild claims that all schools are on par with northern nj. Clowns.

    “But yes I’m general and in under served communities the schools are dubious. Weathers nice tho.”

  297. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just like this clown, betting on Kingston over NYC or northern Nj.

    Maybe you should write to the local politicians and tell them to stop the infrastructure upgrades for commuters between nyc and nj, WFH says we don’t need to commute anymore. Mine as well liquidate all real estate positions as it will be worthless.

    3b says:
    August 12, 2020 at 9:33 pm
    Article in Bloomberg about Kingston NY in the Catskills, apparently they have the fastest rising home prices in the country, due to the exodus from NYC; those people won’t be commuting to NYC any more; work from home with perhaps an occasional trip to the office assuming there still is an office.

  298. ExEssex says:

    Pumpkin…you are on my do not resuscitate list.
    Douchebag.

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