All eyes on jobs

From CNBC:

Friday’s jobs report is a wild card, with economists’ estimates all over the map

The economy is expected to have added about 845,000 payrolls in July, according to Dow Jones consensus estimate, as America’s workforce gradually rebuilds from its sharp pandemic-induced job losses.

But the uncertainty of Covid — spreading again at a rapid pace — has become a wild card for the labor market, just as it has for the broader economy. The rate of new infections in the U.S. is edging toward 100,000 per day, faster than last summer when there were no widely available vaccines.

Wall Street forecasts are wide-ranging for the July employment report, which is slated for release Friday at 8:30 a.m. ET. Wilmington Trust economists, for instance, expect just 350,000 payrolls, while Jefferies economists predict 1.2 million jobs were added.

“The range is 1.2 million to 350,000. That just tells you there’s very little confidence in those numbers,” Wells Fargo director of rates strategy Michael Schumacher said.

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202 Responses to All eyes on jobs

  1. Hold my beer says:

    Frist

  2. grim says:

    Interesting turn of events in the delta war, with South African researchers saying that the J&J vaccine is highly effective against delta (perhaps even better than Pfizer and Moderna). But, J&J nearly left for dead since the earlier safety pause. Heck, even CVS announced just yesterday it would stop administering J&J, and there was some thought that J&J’s lack of effectiveness was a role in the delta spike, and that a booster would be required (but don’t call it a booster). Now, that might be completely flipped, with the faster efficacy of the 1-dose regimen being far more useful in battling delta real-time.

  3. grim says:

    Actually worked out of an office yesterday, first time in a dozen years (well, that didn’t require me to fly to the office). Mandated vax, no entry for unvaccinated folks. Next week, taking the first flight since early last year, last two flights were Cartagena in Feb and Miami in March. That March flight was pretty surreal.

  4. grim says:

    …waiting for the first set of freshmen to be expelled from college for using a fake vaccine card.

  5. Nomad says:

    3 terminated for going to office without vax.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58112125

  6. grim says:

    Why isn’t Murphy mandating vaccines for NJ state workers?

    Instead, this?

    N.J. students in grades K-12 must wear masks at start of school year, Murphy to announce

    Gov. Phil Murphy is set to announce New Jersey will require students and staff members in kindergarten through 12th grade to wear masks after all at the start of the new school year due to the state’s rising COVID-19 numbers, NJ Advance Media has confirmed.

    Murphy will unveil the new rules during a public event Friday, according to two sources with knowledge of the governor’s plans who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

  7. grim says:

    Ohhhhh, I keep forgetting, he has an upcoming election…

    Can’t do anything that might impact the election.

  8. dentss dennigan says:

    Joe is being asked to skip the 9/11 services ……stay home Joe

  9. Jim says:

    Actually the NJEA tells Murphy what to do, remember teachers are essential workers except when they are not, so if they wanted the vaccination the teachers could get it….first in line. He is leaving it up to the union to decide if the schools will re-open this year or continue with zoom classes.
    Most teachers got raises these last two years and a fully funded pension payment, while the taxpayer is stuck with more debt , landlords like myself were thrown under the school bus. Phil certainly has the backs of the teachers at the expense of taxpayers. What a scam!

  10. dentss dennigan says:

    Nearly 1,800 victims’ relatives, first responders and survivors are calling on the president to refrain from attending any memorials over his refusal to release Sept. 11 documents

  11. Grim says:

    Maybe Joe and Rudy can carpool?

  12. Libturd says:

    BRT,

    From last night. You are correct. I looked it up before I went to sleep and couldn’t find it. My mom is an exaggerator, so this was probably her translation of his anti-mask mandate position. Though, if this is her perception, it’s probably the view of a lot of the other old fogeys. DeSantis’ approval rating was still halfway decent in July. Will be interesting to see the numbers in August.

  13. Grim says:

    943k – surprise to the upside

  14. Fast Eddie says:

    It’s about time they cut off the free money give-away.

  15. 3b says:

    Mostly restaurant, hotel and leisure jobs. If we go back to lock down then those jobs are gone again.

  16. BRT says:

    Lib, 98% of the general public is misinformed and cannot communicate a point anymore. Talked to a neighbor yesterday. She cancelled her plans to visit her elderly mother in Atlanta. She’s vaxxed, so’s her mom and the rest of her family. And she can even drive down if she wants. She’s afraid of Delta. She read that the kids get sicker from it more so than the elderly. She was just going to stay at her house and hang out…they weren’t even planning on going out or anything.

    On schools. Our staff is 100% vaccinated. At the high school, 90% of our students are vaccinated. Last year, 40% of my students had to temporarily quarantine at some point due to a positive test. So, I suspect in a class of 24, we may potentially have 1 to 2 students max who have not developed immunity. There’s no reason for us to be masking at this level. We went through an entire school year from Sept to June with no evidence of transmission inside the building (plenty in sports and basement parties though). The elementary school in our town had full attendance all year long. This was all without a vaccine.

  17. BRT says:

    This shrinkflation crap needs to stop. My favorite kaiser rolls can no longer fit pork roll, egg and cheese.

  18. Libturd says:

    BRT,

    First, you may be right, but masks don’t bother me nearly as much as remote schooling would (though my kid did fine). Second, I have been looking at the third wave in charts of various countries. I again don’t think it’s all seasonal. Look at the timing in the UK for example. What’s revealing even more than the lack of seasonality, appears to be the rapid drop in new cases once peak is reached. The Delta variant appears to run through the susceptible population real quick and then exits even quicker than it came. So even if your kids are in masks at the start of the year, I don’t give this wave more than a month of longevity. It even looks like Vegas is peaking, right as I land there. Are masks that detrimental to learning? Though delta it is unlikely to kill many kids, especially if half of them got the Covid already. I still think it may be worthwhile to protect the few that were careful the whole time and made the sacrifice that the others did not. If the mask mandate stays long past the third wave, then I would agree with you.

  19. grim says:

    Look at the timing in the UK for example. What’s revealing even more than the lack of seasonality, appears to be the rapid drop in new cases once peak is reached. The Delta variant appears to run through the susceptible population real quick and then exits even quicker than it came.

    I thought this was the typical pattern that variants exhibited, this is something people talked about early on. The evolution of variants favors transmissibility, and not mortality.

  20. BRT says:

    Lib, I agree, I think this is the virus getting through the rest of the population right now very quickly. I too think this runs it’s course by Sept. But what I’m not so confident in is their willingness to drop mandates. I think we are at the point that any kids with possible susceptibilities like obesity, diabetes or other various issues, we should give them monoclonal antibodies right now. I would also say that if they chose to wear a true respirator, then, there would essentially be zero risk.

    As far as learning goes, I do think the masks do affect learning at this point because the game has changed. You have no idea how annoyed kids were that people were able to crowd en masse into bars at the end of May while they were sitting in 85 degree classrooms with broken ACs wearing masks. Once they all got vaccinated, they all started wearing it like a chin diaper or with their nose hanging out and no teacher was willing to play mask police on them. Basically, it’s a huge distraction at this point while everyone wants to just get back to normal.

    What’s more annoying is, I basically feel like the democrats have opted for a herd immunity strategy while pretending to do otherwise. I mean, I truly believe that’s the prudent thing to do…but at least own it. I guess I should be happy that it’s going that way.

  21. BRT says:

    grim,

    evolution dictates that all viruses mutate to become more transmissible and less lethal.

  22. Grim says:

    If republican leadership truly believes DeSantis is the best hope as nominee, they are more disconnected from reality than I’d even thought.

    And the #2 in line, Ted Kaczynski, I mean Ted Cruz, not much better.

  23. Libturd says:

    I hear you BRT. It’s definitely politicised past the point of no return. I’m guessing once the wave subsides, what few people are following the mandates will just start ignoring them anyway. You’ll see.

  24. Fast Eddie says:

    If republican democrat leadership truly believes DeSantis O’Biden is the best hope as nominee, they are more disconnected from reality than I’d even thought.

    There, fixed it.

  25. grim says:

    He’s a lock man, sorry to say it.

  26. Ex says:

    10:29 oh woe is me –

  27. 3b says:

    Grim :I don’t think it’s realistic to expect Biden to run for a second term. I don’t think Harris is a lock.

  28. Libturd says:

    Fast Eddie,

    Remember. None of us wanted Biden/Harris. We voted against populism and we always will. Populism is dangerous and stupid. Stupid is a lot of the current Dem platform, but not dangerous.

  29. grim says:

    What we’re seeing is that Ol’ Joe really is a masterful politician. His years of experience clearly give him the ability to work the system in ways the new guys can’t even comprehend. His measured patience and unwillingness to react viscerally are assets and are clearly driving the Republicans nuts.

    “Governor Who?” was f&cking brilliant.

    The way Biden played the Supreme Court on the eviction moratorium completely changed my mindset on the guy. I am dead sure that was completely orchestrated. Biden gets exactly what he wants, even after the Supreme Court says no? Not only that, but he outmaneuvered Congress as well? He even had AOC flipping out that he dropped the ball. In the end her flapping did nothing, but he got it done. Kudos, the guy is playing chess here.

  30. Nomad says:

    No way the virus could mutate into something that is significantly more vaccine resistant and would not expert virologists (not TV ones) have some insight into what future variances could be and potential risks? Would think someone with expertise would be gaming this out.

    So if you have had vax, you know odds of getting sick minimal and of getting sick and being hospitalized way way less than minimal, would you go to a wedding with 200+ people, inside without a mask? If you believe in the vax, have had it and look at the odds, no mask needed in this environment, if you believe.

  31. grim says:

    And his wise ass smirk after delivering that, just shows you that the old man is up for a fight. I’m sure we don’t know 90% of the shit he is orchestrating behind the scenes. He’s the exact opposite of Trump, who was dead set on governing in public.

  32. grim says:

    I suspect the administration is working behind the scenes with the heads of major companies right now, working to accelerate vax mandates. Again, the guy is turning out to really be a smart political strategist. Why get into a drag out fight trying to pass a federal mandate, when they can pave the way legally, and then work behind the scenes to get companies to jump onboard, knowing that the more companies that do it, the easier it becomes for others to do the same.

    Suspect the administration played a role with United, and likely are working numerous other large companies.

    And in the end, he gets what he wants.

  33. Fast Eddie says:

    “Governor Who?” was f&cking brilliant.

    Lol. Sure. Every politician does the same thing on a regular basis. You can throw in any event that includes any kind of competition practically every day.

  34. grim says:

    You mean like Trump? Who did it every day to anyone who wouldn’t prostrate themselves to his altar?

    That’s the difference.

  35. Libturd says:

    Ten year moving up again.

  36. 3b says:

    Trump destroyed the Republican Party. Never mind a 3rd party we are down to one party, and it will become more leftist. Thanks fecking Boomers!!

  37. Fast Eddie says:

    What’s the difference? Trump did it, O’Biden did it, Conor McGregor did it, Sinatra did it… there’s no difference. Was Trump arrogant in doing it? Yes. But the old man occupying the WH is just a typical politician with zero ideas and failing faculties. There’s your difference.

  38. Libturd says:

    You know, it’s been an absolutely incredible stock market rally under Biden. But it’s not something he reminds you about every day on his travelling roadshow of personal accolades. As a matter of fact, he doesn’t mention it all.

    Sure, it’s early and the judgement is not really out on him. But what is surprising me more than anything is that he doesn’t appear to be playing the pro-corporate game that he used to. I suppose, now that he’s POTUS, he doesn’t really need to.

  39. joyce says:

    Wouldn’t a movement to nationalize healthcare be considered a populist movement if it’s
    supported by a majority?

  40. grim says:

    Sussex country fair is going to be interesting to watch.

  41. Libturd says:

    Oh Joyce,

    You know what I mean. Heck, our healthcare already is socialized for everyone over 65, unable to pay or disabled.

  42. No One says:

    Grim,
    Looks like SNL needs to redo this skit but with Biden.
    Amazing that even SNL’s caricature of Reagan’s alter-ego dotard is still 5x sharper than Biden.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5wfPlgKFh8

  43. BRT says:

    No one, Phil Hartman was superb

  44. grim says:

    Looks like SNL needs to redo this skit but with Biden.

    I just pissed my pants, but yeah, that’s my view.

  45. Bystander says:

    No One,

    One of top skits of all time..the whole thing is perfect. It is all Phil as usual. I love how he adds the fake practice smiling right before Girl Scout walks in.

    On the Biden thing – no one deserves credit, no one gets apat on the back when you simply print trillions yet again then bailout banks, provide mega subsidies to corps and further entrench soceity into state capitalism. Anyone one of us could waltz into 1600 and proclaim we are geniuses and ‘greatest economy of all time’ as long as Fed is backing whole thing. The lesson here, particurly for the red hat dolts, is that it further shows that your Orange god was a b&llshit liar and your party is not the party of economic conversatism, small governement nor is it better for stock market. So, what do you believe now? I heard tons of arguments that “I don’t like Trump but his economic policy is great”. Your argument is toast, kaput. Support a sane candidate next time, not a TV con artist. Holding on means you will lose, bigly.

  46. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Whoa. Pass the kool aid.

    Supreme Court says no and move ahead anyway? That’s called breaking the law.

    Partnering companies to do your dirty work? That’s called fascism.

    Interesting to see the spin change now that the shoe is on the other foot. But at least spare us the personal credit for Biden. He’s maneuvered a few things skillfully, he has a 50 year record of manipulating people, but it’s clear he’s lost many of his faculties.

  47. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    On Desantis, he’s the counterweight to the collectivists. For them to advance the current icon of liberty will have to be diminished.

    Florida has outperformed the democratic states in every measure during the pandemic but all that you hear about is the current upswing in Florida.

    And despite all of that we have an open border with COVID positive illegals flooding in. That’s the height of negligence that nothing compares to.

  48. Bystander says:

    Florida has outperformed in terms of taking old rich retirees from NJ/NY/CT. Without them the state collapses into swamp.

  49. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    And Phil Murphy hired a rapist and Andrew cuomo is a rapist. Both killed 10k+ with their incompetence. Biden is killing that many now with open borders.

    But what’s the point?

  50. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    My apologies to Phil. He was an accused rapist.

  51. Bystander says:

    ” He was an accused rapist.”

    26 women accused your Orange idiot of sexual asssault as well as caught on mic, bragging that he assaults them. Why do you even go there?

  52. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    I’m cool with due process. Phil never was held to account because of one party rule. Cuomo will have his day.

    But they are from the the me too party. Remember cavanaugh? All you need is an accusation. According to their own standard they should be history.

  53. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    And the media double standard which is the most egregious part. They would be running 24×7 on the fake news networks if desantis were accused of what Murphy did.

  54. Bystander says:

    GOAT,

    I am actually not disagreeing with you on accusation front. I did not like Kavanaugh hearing nor Nicholas Sandmann incident. If I could change something, I would restrict press from naming people until formal charge is brought. It would solve sensationalism and judgement by press. Pure BS that it hurts free speech. It hurts innoccents more..

  55. Grim says:

    Yeah, but Trump was the best at sexual harassment, the best.

  56. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    So when do the workers that actually have to go into work start getting paid more for doing so? Fair is fair, right?

    No one talks about that part.

  57. 3b says:

    Give it a rest. It’s the weekend.

  58. Libturd says:

    Those Covid infected illegals are way more likely to accept a vaccination than the average Floridian.

  59. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yet, still building out west. Wild!

    “A major California hydroelectric power plant has been forced to shut down due to low water levels for the first time since it opened in 1967, officials said Thursday, as the state grapples with an unrelenting drought.

    The decision to shut down the Edward Hyatt Power Plant at Lake Oroville — the state’s second-largest reservoir — comes after drought and heat exacerbated by the climate crisis caused lake water levels to plunge to all-time lows.”

    https://apple.news/Ah62C-EUERJixF38d00A9cQ

  60. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It was a serious question. Of course you dodge it.

    If WFH becomes the norm…how much is it going to cost to higher someone that has to leave their house? Me thinks companies have opened up a huge can worms and don’t even realize it yet.

    Just follow logic. If your office buddy gets to work remotely, but you still have to come in at the same pay as your buddy…will you be okay with that? Hell no. I think it’s going to lead to companies having to pay up significantly for any employee that does have to come in. These people are going to have the companies by the balls.

  61. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Between WFH and having trouble hiring in person jobs…expect it to start impacting businesses as they go to war with the employees. With all the boomers retiring, it’s going to have a major impact in the battle between labor and business. Labor is going to get the upper hand till the machines come in and wipe them out. This decade might be the last labor shortage we ever see before the machines take over.

  62. The Great Pumpkin says:

    That’s why jobs aren’t being filled and companies are having trouble finding and keeping workers…more boomers retire by the day, than the market is able to replace with new workers.

  63. The Great Pumpkin says:

    After decades during which employers usually held the upper hand, something feels different in the U.S. labor market. Wages are rising across the income spectrum. Workers are quitting in huge numbers. McDonald’s franchisees are offering hourly workers child care and college tuition.

    The Covid-19 pandemic and the unprecedented government aid in response to it are clearly part of the explanation for this, but it may also be relevant that the working-age population stopped growing a couple of years ago.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-07-23/millennials-getting-raises-have-retiring-boomers-to-thank

  64. 3b says:

    In all seriousness give it a rest. Your obsession with WFH is disturbing and unhealthy. As for having a serious discussion with you , you gave up that option with this blog years ago. Enjoy your summer.

  65. 3b says:

    Lib: Perhaps. But the government can’t scream about Americans getting vaccinated while people who are not vaccinated are streaming across the border no questions asked. It goes to credibility.

  66. Libturd says:

    I read that they were jabbing most of them. I’ll check on that before I spread lies again.

  67. Juice Box says:

    Lib how can you JAB 300,000 people ever month that escape the Border Patrol? You really think they catch them all? Look this is serious s*hi*t, my landscaper has not increased prices in nine years. From what I hear it’s been $35 a cut for allot longer too, they compete at these levels for jobs that most won’t do.

    Don’t get me wrong here I am like everyone here a child of p*i*iss poor of immigrants. Most of our parents came here legally and we TODAY accept over a million legal immigrants ever year. But honestly we should just invade the southern borders and bring out way of living south. It would have been better than Afghanistan and Iraq….

  68. 3b says:

    Lib: I agree with Juice , no way they are all being jabbed.

  69. Juice Box says:

    Grim – re: “Trump was the best at sexual harassment, the best”

    I think you are conflating things here, legally anyway. Where was the crime like Cuomo as in groping a subordinate two years ago?

    Last I checked and well I have know to be wrong, it was never a woman that worked for Trump but unwanted sexual advances from others but no charges brought, in a legal sense, but then again what do I know.

    Anyway are there NEW rules as to boys growing up should behave. I was never given a copy….I don’t think it exists….

  70. Libturd says:

    Looked it up. 70% of the detained want the jab. Big part of the problem is that ICE doesn’t want to give it since most are antijab in the first place. Only like 10-30% are getting it.

  71. grim says:

    Perfect storm for Florida next week, when school starts across most of the state on Monday and Tuesday.

  72. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Gave you a good topic to talk about (the impact of retiring boomers on the economy and labor pool)but then talks about nonsense.

    3b says:
    August 6, 2021 at 6:52 pm
    Lib: Perhaps. But the government can’t scream about Americans getting vaccinated while people who are not vaccinated are streaming across the border no questions asked. It goes to credibility.

  73. The Great Pumpkin says:

    All i know, it’s getting very difficult to get good high level workers. My wife’s company is having a hell of time keeping workers as they move back and forth between companies for higher money because they can. She has never seen this kind of labor market before.

    That’s why companies keep allowing this WFH right now…they have no choice. The worker is in control from the top to the bottom of the labor pool. There simply is not enough workers.

    When Walmart starts paying for their worker’s college education or when mcds gives signing bonuses, you know the labor pool is f’ed. When workers demand to WFH and companies are having no choice, but to give in even though it hurts the company, you know the labor pool is f’ed.

  74. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So blame the govt benefits….sure, it played a minor roll, but the real source is not enough workers. A lot of boomers were working into their 70’s, stalling this, but this covid lockdown let to a lot of them throwing in the towel.

    Be honest, you guys all have been alive a long time, when have you witnessed a labor market like this?

  75. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    ICE is not border patrol. Having either one involved in vaccine distributions is the height of absurdity.

  76. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Seriously…when was the last time you saw workers without a union get what they want? I have never witnessed this in my life.

  77. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Big Tech Is Coming to Small-Town America, But There’s a Catch
    Data centers run by Facebook, Google and other tech companies are expanding across the U.S., promising jobs and tax revenue but rarely delivering

    https://apple.news/AvWGh0VX7S3uSdUMxu4xpOg

  78. BRT says:

    30% of them still don’t want the jab. Why wouldn’t vaxxine passports be applied to the border if we are doing them in our cities? Btw, this has been a legitimate issue for years. People crossing the border, we don’t know if they are vaccinated for a number of different types of illnesses that we require.

  79. Yo! says:

    “grim says:
    August 7, 2021 at 5:09 am
    Perfect storm for Florida next week, when school starts across most of the state on Monday and Tuesday.”

    Florida has schools? I learn something new every day. The rich guys I know living in Florida making big $$$ ship their children to New England private schools, not the Catholic ones, the really fancy schools. My friend attended one of them, he got free tuition because his father was the school gardener.

    I am getting tired of experts. What expert predicted the current house price boom? No experts have come forward to advertise they saw this boom. Wow! How much are New Jersey home prices up? Looking at the data, somewhere between 10% and 20%. Big time.

  80. Phoenix says:

    If NJ schools are the best there is, that says plenty about America.

  81. 3b says:

    Companies are allowing WFH because people millennials in particular want it. Quality of life issues period.

  82. 3b says:

    Lib: Are there numbers out there stating how many ICE agents are vaccinated? As I said you can’t scream about Americans needing to get vaccinated while thousands cross the border and some number of those are not being vaccinated. Those people in turn then end up in neighborhoods where the vaccination rates are already very low. If nothing else the optics are terrible.

  83. 3b says:

    Phoenix : Well said.

  84. Phoenix says:

    3b,
    You are right. And if I were a millennial teacher I would want it as well.
    In fact, every job needs to have a “quality of life” evaluation done.
    Of course, Boomer will tell you how they walked ten miles through 8 feet of snow every day to get to school…

  85. Grim says:

    Florida has enough schools to ruin DeSantis.

  86. Grim says:

    The border crisis is Trump’s fault, he never finished the wall like her promised.

  87. Phoenix says:

    With CRISPR, soon enough we will have the technology to create a disease that will eliminate certain “undesirables” based on their genetic characteristics.

    Never underestimate the human desire for power and control.

    Of course, assassination drones with facial recognition are already in testing.

  88. BRT says:

    grim, doubtful. While elementary parents have locked their kids in their rooms for 2 years, teenagers completely quit on the pandemic May of last year. At least half of my students had confirmed cases. Many likely weren’t even detected due to asymptomatic infection. If you were going to see major issues in the schools, you would have already seen it. Florida already went through a full year of school.

  89. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Boomers greed and Fed madness we have an economy where it takes two incomes to live. When I was starting out , almost all of the Moms in my group, friends/ family/town were stay at home. Now it takes two incomes for the same house 30 years older. Is that progress? I am running through this quickly, but you get the point. And so now when many because of technology can now perform their jobs at home they want WFH, for quality of life improvement as in no commuting to name just one.

    As for teachers, I said the other day they can have WFH too like corporate America, but in return they have to work year round , no unions, , no tenure, and health plans like the average worker in corporate America.

  90. Phoenix says:

    You can’t finish the border wall. You need that Mexican labor that works cheap enough for Boomer Businesses to do the framing and roofing. It’s not profitable if you use American labor.

    You need to outsource those workers for maximum profit. A border wall gets in the way of making your wallet fat.

  91. Chicago says:

    Our own BRT douchebag.

    Everyone else here who posts and adds value. It is called a merit raise or also a promotion.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    August 7, 2021 at 9:12 am
    Seriously…when was the last time you saw workers without a union get what they want? I have never witnessed this in my life.

  92. Chicago says:

    If you are a Democrat, the word is undocumented.

    Libturd says:
    August 6, 2021 at 6:12 pm
    Those Covid infected illegals are way more likely to accept a vaccination than the average Floridian.

  93. Phoenix says:

    3b,
    Yeah, I get it. Just remember we are creating our children’s future world with every move we make.

    It’s no wonder they are lashing out, school shootings, suicide. Unlike the past, children today have access to to the world on an Ipad. The people they should trust and learn from, the adults, are turning out to be more corrupt, vile, racist, and narcissistic than ever before.

    Watch the police videos. Do you trust them- Your priest, your rabbi, even now your female school teachers who kick toddlers down the stairs and rape their students? Your Karens who make the paper every day with their bizarre entitled behavior?

    This is the world you have created. I get a front row seat each day to observe the effects of society on individuals. It ain’t pretty.

  94. Phoenix says:

    Pretty much the only thing you can’t have outsourced is the legal system. This way you have a custom tailored state licensed tick that knows the best way to drain the last molecule of hemoglobin out of you- leaving just enough behind to keep your O2 sat hovering around 85.

  95. Phoenix says:

    In other news, Murphy orders all schools in NJ to watch videos from Peetie the Sexual Harassment Panda as a mandatory obligation. In addition, Gerald Broflovski is now the new State appointed Attorney General.

  96. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Right, since when does a company give a f’k about their workers quality of life over their business?

    3b says:
    August 7, 2021 at 10:29 am
    Companies are allowing WFH because people millennials in particular want it. Quality of life issues period.

  97. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Open your eyes. The only reason tech is allowing WFH to continue is because they are either trying to steal or not lose talent.

    Amazon corporate workers get to stay at home till start of 2022, yet amazon warehouse workers forced to go in. Why? Coincidence? Why do they care about one worker and not the other?

  98. Phoenix says:

    “Amazon corporate workers get to stay at home till start of 2022, yet amazon warehouse workers forced to go in. Why? Coincidence? Why do they care about one worker and not the other?”

    Leverage.

  99. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Well then pay them six figures with large bonuses when the economy is doing well. Cant have it both ways. Also, don’t cry when they work from home.

    Why do you hate teachers so much? What makes you take the position that you are so much better than them? Guy who claims to work at GS is jealous of teachers and their compensation…makes absolutely no sense.

    “As for teachers, I said the other day they can have WFH too like corporate America, but in return they have to work year round , no unions, , no tenure, and health plans like the average worker in corporate America.”

  100. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, and if only 3b could understand that. These tech companies really don’t want work from home, but their workers have them by the balls working together to get whatever the f they want.

    Cry about union govt workers when corporate tech workers are living like gods…like they can do whatever they want, and get paid whatever they want.

    Phoenix says:
    August 7, 2021 at 12:03 pm
    “Amazon corporate workers get to stay at home till start of 2022, yet amazon warehouse workers forced to go in. Why? Coincidence? Why do they care about one worker and not the other?”

    Leverage.

  101. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Who are you? How long was i told on this blog that wages are stagnant or going down? Now you take the position that it is perfectly normal to see employers giving bonuses to McDonald’s workers.

    Chicago says:
    August 7, 2021 at 11:16 am
    Our own BRT douchebag.

    Everyone else here who posts and adds value. It is called a merit raise or also a promotion.

  102. leftwing says:

    “was some thought that J&J’s lack of effectiveness was a role in the delta spike…Now, that might be completely flipped, with the faster efficacy…”

    Vaccine out for six months, clinicals beforehand, and we still have no idea of efficacy on the broadest bandwidth. But line those 12 year olds up without an advisory panel and let’s start vaccinating 5 year olds.

    Jab, baby jab!

  103. leftwing says:

    BRT/Lib re: DeSantis…

    He is public enemy number one for Dems, the Left, and MSM because he can appeal on a mass scale with DJT policies without the toxicity.

    At all costs he must be invalidated before Repubs get in line for 2024. Expect a continuous stream of hit pieces.

  104. leftwing says:

    “Though delta it is unlikely to kill many kids, especially if half of them got the Covid already. I still think it may be worthwhile to protect the few that were careful the whole time and made the sacrifice that the others did not.”

    Entirely backwards. Reward? For what?

    These jackasses who thought they could avoid exposure to a pandemic and then caused policies to that effect are responsible for the shutdown of the entire economy and all the social ills that follow.

    Reward? They should be put against a wall and shot.

    It is a virus. Everyone going about ADL will be exposed to it eventually. Trying to avoid that is a fool’s errand.

  105. Bystander says:

    Let’s see – who knows more? Someone who works for large global bank handling workforce planning and is currently looking for a better job..or a coasting teacher? You have zero idea what you are talking about. Yes, labor is in upheaval but not as much in the US for white collar. We had two declines on Monday alone and batting 10% on people showing up after taking offer. We wait three months and then they don’t show up. It is chaos for IT delivery because American and Euro companies are doubling down on cheap labor, not expanding labor in US. One Pune resource resigned at told worker he got 120% raise. Now, what is my company doing to fix this? Not a damn thing not even raising salaries. They simply ask for more hours and productivity for current force. They are not altering footprint to hire in high cost areas like US. Push timelines out for everything except reg or high risk items. Rinse and repeat. The bean counters are in control. There is little US investment for big corps. Higher paying jobs are in small tech but we are in tech bubble 2.0 with so many little shit startups who are being fed by cheap money, cheap debt. The majority will close shop when spigot is turned off by Fed. They have no solid business model or strategy. The majority of jobs are contract variety on W2 with shit rate and no benefits. Companies will offer more now if willing to come to office but they will not get people to do it. WFH roles are completely all over place in terms of salaries. It is a hiring thunderdome right now and you have to sift through a lot of garbage to find better paying job. Everyone is in la la land. Everyone on vacation. Sept is coming fast and it will be a giant wakeup call for the economy. Nothing has been accomplished, staffs are thin, people are leaving, summer labor will be let go and companies still playing delay games with hiring.

  106. leftwing says:

    “Biden gets exactly what he wants, even after the Supreme Court says no?”

    I would not cheer that the Executive branch of our government flagrantly ignores a SCOTUS ruling, going so far to admit it is likely unconstitutional but done to “buy time”.

    Sad that you consider that a ‘win’. It’s a loss for everyone.

    Remember, not just in this country but through history what the Left originates the Right perfects.

    I wonder how much you’ll be cheering when the next DJT gives the SCOTUS the bird on a topic even more dear to your heart…..

    You have literally moved adjacent to “The Pope? How many divisions has he?”

  107. leftwing says:

    “Why get into a drag out fight trying to pass a federal mandate, when they can pave the way legally, and then work behind the scenes to get companies to jump onboard, knowing that the more companies that do it, the easier it becomes for others to do the same…And in the end, he gets what he wants.”

    JFC Grim, who stole and replaced your brain?

    First cheering on the Exec branch ignoring SCOTUS?

    And now cheering that rather than do something pesky like actually get Congress to pass a law, we cheer that the Exec branch ends run the Legislative branch by working in concert with corporate America instead?

    Fcuk whose team is in office, Red or Blue, how does this work for the citizenry? Ever?

  108. grim says:

    Eh, just having a little fun. You guys are always at your best when you are a little fired up.

  109. Phoenix says:

    “I would not cheer that the Executive branch of our government flagrantly ignores a SCOTUS ruling, going so far to admit it is likely unconstitutional but done to “buy time”.”

    Left,
    It’s not surprising. It’s how the court system and lawyers work. Not much different from divorce court.
    That’s why it’s not surprising to me that the Capitol was almost overrun.
    This country, and it’s court/legal system is truly dysfunctional.

    The plan in the future for them is to double down on individual Americans. Won’t be long now before you won’t have many rights or freedoms at all.

    Get your kid a dual citizenship if you don’t have one. You just might need a lifeboat to get out Dodge.

  110. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bystander,

    Get into a corporate tech job. They are treated like gods. I promise you.

  111. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Tough life.

    “Google – Google has certainly earned the spot at the top of this list: not many companies can top what they offer. It’s not that strange for companies to provide free meals…but not many let employees choose from over 30 cafes serving anything from Indian food to fresh fruit smoothies. Or take a midday siesta in a nap pod. Or provide a concierge service to run employees’ errands and save them time.”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurencebradford/2016/07/27/13-tech-companies-that-offer-insanely-cool-perks/

  112. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The company also lets employees bring their dogs to work, hosts free fitness classes and tech talks, and rewards hard work with free massages. Finally, in the event of an employee’s death, their families are taken care of: Google gives the spouse 50% of their salary for 10 years, plus $1,000 a month per child.

  113. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Meanwhile i have 3b busting my balls as a teacher in an urban district. I have it too good compared to corporate workers…lmao. Your company sucks if you think teachers have it better than corporate. Go work for a good company, it matters.

  114. Phoenix says:

    Bystander
    “The bean counters are in control.”

    My industry as well. Covid for many is the last straw. Pot banging and free sandwiches aren’t cutting it anymore Boomer.

  115. Phoenix says:

    GP,
    You get summers off, right? Do you work every other weekend, or every weekend? Do you get a lunch or meal every day, or 5 minutes for pizza and back to work? Does the bell ring for you at 3pm and off you go?

    Inner city or not, you have it easy. Guaranteed pension, the best Cadillac health insurance ( yeah, we all pay a part too, so STFU.)

    You have it good. Real good. Now go head to the town pool in Wayne and dip your feet in the water with all of your colleagues who have the whole summer off.

  116. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I don’t understand how these companies aren’t charged with being a monopoly.

    “$125M Amazon cargo hub — and 1,000 new jobs — coming to Newark airport

    Amazon will redevelop two 1990s vintage buildings into a new state-of-the-art 250,000 square foot air cargo campus.”

  117. Phoenix says:

    Google only has 100k employees. For a company with a 1.4T market cap they are rolling in the dough.

    Dough they make, by the way, selling you out to everyone including our government.

    Apple doing the same thing now, allowing all of your pictures to be scanned.

    You have nothing to fear if you are not guilty of anything…..

  118. Phoenix says:

    “I don’t understand how these companies aren’t charged with being a monopoly.”

    You pay people and politicians who are instrumental in getting laws passed that benefit both you and them.

    You use those laws to conduct your business, as they are now legal, and “America is a country of laws.”

  119. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Fair enough. I know I have a good life. I’m just pointing out that if i could go back in time, i would have went corporate. My wife has a stressful job, but she enjoys it. It’s fun to climb the corporate ladder.

    For me, i love kids, but don’t get me wrong; the job gets to you. Inner city, these kids are super needy. If you are nice and give them attention, they glue to you like a magnet. Do you know what it’s like constantly answering questions all day. They don’t want to talk about the lesson either, it’s about this friend or this family member. And if you show you don’t care, those questions turn to taunts. So pick your poison wisely. These kids are broken human beings and you better hope they love you because you don’t want to be on their bad side. I have seen many teachers cry and quit.

  120. leftwing says:

    “Eh, just having a little fun. You guys are always at your best when you are a little fired up.”

    Lol, trolling your own blog, priceless!

  121. Phoenix says:

    GP,
    First of all, many have fallen off the “company ladder” and broken a neck or back.
    It’s not my gig, but I know some people who have been there and are constantly in fear for their job. No tenure like you. Now it’s even worse cause when some freak you told her that her lunch was over you get a call from HR that she is alleging something against you. The new way to knock someone off a corporate ladder.

    Kids are important, so I do respect that part of your job, but only if you do it 100%.
    Many have effed up home lives and need some stability or future.

  122. Bystander says:

    No dummy…a few people get paid like CTO and vision folks who talk a big game. There are.tons of non-IT folks running IT orgs because of bean counting. People that can sell board on cost reductions get paid. People that execute, the 95% of IT org have seen pay drop or flat as wage arbitrage continues. You wo

  123. 3b says:

    Pumps : If you actually worked in corporate America you might understand. The millennials are pushing WFH because they are not afraid to speak up, and they make up a major portion of the if not majority in some companies in the work force.

    I said I suppose WFH for teachers , as long as the kids Unions and pensions are eliminated, but it sounds like you want it all. Typical. You claim you are not worried about WFH and that your spouse who is the uber breadwinner is doing just fine, and you are not worried in the least. Yet it’s like every post now you harass me with your anti WFH hysteria. You get smacked down, and then disappear for hours ,scouring Google for anti WFH articles and then you start all over again. You are especially bad at nights and weekends. I have asked you repeatedly to leave me out of your anti WFH hysterics, but you refuse. It’s almost becoming harassment. Seriously, you need help, pills therapy, both. But you do need help.

  124. BRT says:

    Unions are great for the low achieving rank and file. If my union didn’t put a cap on salary in the contract, I’d negotiate for $150k. But yes, I’m now year 7 in the step I negotiated for myself. Had I relied on union and CBA, I’d have earned $140k less over those years.

  125. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You are such an a$$hole. Own it. Read that below and say I really am an asshole.

    “Yet it’s like every post now you harass me with your anti WFH hysteria. You get smacked down, and then disappear for hours ,scouring Google for anti WFH articles and then you start all over again. You are especially bad at nights and weekends. I have asked you repeatedly to leave me out of your anti WFH hysterics, but you refuse. It’s almost becoming harassment. Seriously, you need help, pills therapy, both. But you do need help.”

  126. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Again, when have you been correct on this blog. Yet, you must tell yourself lies. I love when you claim you aren’t a Republican. That’s funny.

  127. The Great Pumpkin says:

    If you are so good that you don’t need a union, why are you not in the corporate world? Since you are so amazing at negotiating, go do it for a job not protected by the union.

    BRT says:
    August 7, 2021 at 2:08 pm
    Unions are great for the low achieving rank and file. If my union didn’t put a cap on salary in the contract, I’d negotiate for $150k. But yes, I’m now year 7 in the step I negotiated for myself. Had I relied on union and CBA, I’d have earned $140k less over those years.

  128. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I know the Union is doing something, otherwise 3b wouldnt be so obsessed with taking away the health insurance and pension. I wouldn’t be so hated by Republicans for working in a union if this was not so.

  129. BRT says:

    Would have loved to. I unfortunately, your favorite state government’s high taxes chased all my potential employers out of state right before I graduated. Maybe you don’t understand, the laws of supply and demand are completely in my favor in my subject area, unlike yours.

  130. Bystander says:

    A headline that sums up today’s world:

    “Vatican now investigating how Pope Francis’ Instagram liked photo of woman’s butt”

  131. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Gov. Phil Murphy, who is up for re-election this year, said New Jersey is getting “our fiscal house in order.”

    https://newjerseyglobe.com/governor/new-jersey-gets-second-bond-rating-upgrade-in-3-weeks

  132. 3b says:

    Get help if not for you then your family. You are severely disturbed.

  133. Hold my beer says:

    Abbott is considered to be a Presidential candidate in 2024.

    If he runs, I bet Matthew mcConnaughey beats him for governor in 2022.

    Cruz barely beat the unknown Beto for senate.

  134. Juice Box says:

    Wow that space station drama is for sure a mess

    The Russian Nauka module almost waxed the whole thing….Firing thrusters for no known reason….

    https://spectrum.ieee.org/space-station-accident-needs-independant-investigation

  135. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    It’s a blog. If you think any of the people on here are your avg citizen, you are further lost in the woods than I thought. I just don’t understand why you are here. You clearly are not spectrum, as you don’t exhibit the intelligence

  136. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And before you come knocking me down…anyone that listened to my advice over the past 8 years on this blog has made a ton of money.

    Remember, i was preaching apple and amazon when no one wanted to touch it. I was screaming to buy real estate in north jersey, when people like you laughed and called me an idiot. How that work out? Suburbs still dead? Asking for a friend? Did i still overpay for my house? Got it.

  137. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And Im not trying to be mean, but i get sick of the bs, I’m not going to be put down by you. I have a thick skin, but not for bs. I earned my stay here. YO! shits on me by claiming no one called this current housing boom on this blog, but i did. You all know it.

  138. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Phil murphy is going to be a future president. Guy broke the back of norcross political machine and saved this state. That qualifies as a future president.

    Hold my beer says:
    August 7, 2021 at 5:19 pm
    Abbott is considered to be a Presidential candidate in 2024.

    If he runs, I bet Matthew mcConnaughey beats him for governor in 2022.

    Cruz barely beat the unknown Beto for senate.

  139. BRT says:

    Phil Murphy is going to be a future president. Guy murdered thousands of seniors with the stroke of a pen. He’ll have no problem starting another war in the middle east.

  140. Ex says:

    10:03 NJ puts a lot of resources (taxes) into their schools.
    They have fairly high expectations for their teachers many of whom
    deliver for their kids. It’s a stable relatively monolithic system.
    But it works. The public schools across the Country are less well-funded, they offer less to the people they employ and they produce results that reflect that.
    BRT teaches in an area that is chronically short-handed and he simply leveraged that.
    Nothing more nothing less. No magic. Unions in general get more for their members than they would get as individuals because of numbers. Again no magic there.

  141. BRT says:

    Rochelle Walensky has proven that she is of a very low IQ and an awful communicator. For the love of god, these people in charge need to be replaced.

    She was on CNN and literally said the vaccine cannot prevent transmission. That’s untrue. In a large majority, it prevents transmission. For others, it does not. She’s too stupid to even sit down and come up with a prerehearsed statement to send the right message. Instead, she misspeaks and causes more confusion.

  142. 3b says:

    We all know why you are here, but I will be kind and not say it. On that note I will try and go back to ignoring you, but you really should consider getting help. You are getting older and your getting worse, complete unravel. It’s a shame.

  143. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s a blog. Stop trying to make me seem like im crazy for contributing. Im sorry that i don’t write what you want to hear.

    As for WFH, im sorry that I don’t envision the majority of the population living and working from home. It might stick for a couple of years, but I just can’t see the majority wanting to mix work/home for decades. That sh!t gets old.

    My position with WFH has nothing to do with my wife, just like my calls for north jersey real estate had nothing to do with my personal properties like you implied for years when you were calling me an idiot, screaming the suburbs are dead and north jersey real estate is dead.

    At the end of the day, you are the one that has issues. You have wet dreams of nyc metro area real estate prices crashing. You clearly have friends or family members that made out on real estate, while you were screaming to them to not buy. You decided to rent because you thought you were smarter than everyone else. Now you missed out big time and pray WFH will destroy real estate prices …that didn’t work out either. You then hammer people like me that are on the other side of your position, and then sadly think im the one with issues. Look in the mirror.

    “You are getting older and your getting worse, complete unravel. It’s a shame”

  144. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I know why you are here. You came here when real estate was crashing. You loved it. Ever since, you have been mad at the FED for not letting it all crash. You blame them for not being right about real estate for 14 years…because of their great work, your crash in real estate has never come, and it’s a bitter pill for you to swallow. Own who you are. You call me an idiot, but i read you like a book.

    “We all know why you are here”

  145. leftwing says:

    “She was on CNN and literally said the vaccine cannot prevent transmission.”

    And it doesn’t prevent infection with breakthroughs either according to the Admin…

    Doesn’t stop infection or transmission. So remind me why do we have it :)

    Fauci relocation watch, T minus 3 weeks, lol.

  146. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Ex is a straight shooter. He almost always tells it how it is.

    Ex says:
    August 7, 2021 at 8:47 pm
    10:03 NJ puts a lot of resources (taxes) into their schools.
    They have fairly high expectations for their teachers many of whom
    deliver for their kids. It’s a stable relatively monolithic system.
    But it works. The public schools across the Country are less well-funded, they offer less to the people they employ and they produce results that reflect that.
    BRT teaches in an area that is chronically short-handed and he simply leveraged that.
    Nothing more nothing less. No magic. Unions in general get more for their members than they would get as individuals because of numbers. Again no magic there.

  147. Hold my beer says:

    I wonder how many of these climate change activists took private planes to get there. But they are entitled to it I suppose. I mean you can’t fly coach if you live in multiple 8,000 square foot houses.

  148. 3b says:

    I will pray for you.

  149. Phoenix says:

    HMB,
    “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

  150. Phoenix says:

    HMB,
    The whole thing paid for by the bankers he let out of jail years ago.

  151. Phoenix says:

    LW,
    Stop with the logic already. My stomach is starting to hurt from the laughter.

  152. Hold my beer says:

    Phoenix

    So true. I detest those limousine liberals. They look down on a guy that lives in a 1,200 sq ft ranch and drives a pickup that gets 15 mpg. Meanwhile they talk about global warming as they fly all over in private planes and have multiple mansions.

  153. Phoenix says:

    HMB,
    I hit with a much broader swath. I detest all hypocrites. Especially ones who claim they are “Pro-America” but have no allegiance to to this country, but only to themselves.
    They are the reason it’s falling fast.

    Limousine liberals just happen to be in that category.

  154. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Well, welfare state is coming to Florida. Now they will know how it feels. Florida created a perfect landscape for them to take advantage of.

    “Why Orthodox Jews Are Leaving Brooklyn for Florida

    What would mo­ti­vate a Ha­sidic rabbi and his fol­low­ers to leave a Brook­lyn en­clave where they’ve lived for gen­er­a­tions and es­tab­lish a quickly grow­ing com­mu­nity in Wimauma, Fla., a semi-rural area near Tampa Bay?

    The same rea­sons that have led to an un­prece­dented wave of Or­tho­dox Jew­ish fam­i­lies mov­ing to South Flor­ida: ed­u­ca­tion choice, low taxes and good gov­er­nance. Most Or­tho­dox fam­i­lies send their chil­dren to pri­vate Jew­ish schools be­cause pub­lic school is sim­ply not an op­tion—re­li­gious in­struc­tion is as im­por­tant to them as aca­d­e­mics. But the tu­ition bur­den can be im­mense.

    That’s why many young fam­i­lies up north are en­ticed by Flor­ida’s ro­bust menu of state-sup­ported pri­vate-school schol­ar­ships, worth on av­er­age about $7,500 a year, as well as ex­panded ben­e­fits for chil­dren with a wide range of dis­abil­i­ties. These pro­grams make pri­vate-school tu­ition far more af­ford­able in Flor­ida than in New York and New Jer­sey. Leg­is­la­tion re­cently signed by Gov. Ron De­San­tis has made even more fam­i­lies el­i­gi­ble for these op­tions, fur­ther fu­el­ing the mi­gra­tion.

    Jews started mov­ing south even be­fore the pan­demic. Fig­ures from Flor­ida’s Ed­u­ca­tion De­part­ment show en­roll­ment in Jew­ish day schools statewide grew in 2020 to 12,482 stu­dents from 10,623 in 2018. The num­ber of such schools grew to 64 from 50 dur­ing that time. The pan­demic su­per­charged de­mand for Jew­ish day schools in South Flor­ida.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/orthodox-jews-leaving-brooklyn-florida-taxes-lockdowns-school-choice-11628265034?st=4lirkzstpbxc16r&reflink=article_copyURL_share

  155. 3b says:

    Hold/ Phoenix: They also claim they are not racist, yet would have a problem if their Son or Daughter bought Dashawn or Tanika home, don’t want the neighbors to see that. Same thing with Gay rights, it’s wonderful, however many would be embarrassed if their own Son or Daughter came out.

  156. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bet he didn’t realize this would lead to orthodox jewish community coming in and taking over…now he will have to cater to them for votes as they establish a political base big enough to do and get what they want.

    “These pro­grams make pri­vate-school tu­ition far more af­ford­able in Flor­ida than in New York and New Jer­sey. Leg­is­la­tion re­cently signed by Gov. Ron De­San­tis has made even more fam­i­lies el­i­gi­ble for these op­tions, fur­ther fu­el­ing the mi­gra­tion.”

  157. Bystander says:

    Let’s flip it around, what people in this country are not hypocrites?

  158. 3b says:

    Bystander: A lot of truth in that statement. The difference is the ones who scream about how liberal they are, but in reality they are not. They hold themselves up as superior, and open minded, but they can be just as ignorant and closed minded as those they have contempt for.

  159. Bystander says:

    Sounds alot like christian right to me, 3b.

  160. 3b says:

    Bystander: Point taken, exactly, but the Liberals say they are the exact opposite. That’s my point, they are not. Just FYI I have nephews and cousins married to minorities. Go to any suburban bbq or holiday party and they pat themselves on the back on how liberal and open minded they are, and how illegal aliens is offensive. Then tal about low and moderate income housing in their town and the kids in their schools and would they shelter undocumented people in their town, and watch how uncomfortable they become, and the acrobatic explanations they give as to how they really want to, but it would be better to have it in someone else’s town. It works every time!

  161. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bystander,

    How bout “my body, my choice” when it comes to vaccines. Then also taking a position against abortion. Land of the free and hypocrites.

  162. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Society wants you scared, anxious, and fat.

    Mainstream news monetizes your fear.

    Social media monetizes your insecurity.

    Food corporations monetize your boredom.

    The new 1% are those that can unplug and manage their emotions.”

  163. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Fear is ownership. Instill fear, own the world.

  164. Bystander says:

    3b,

    It is the biggest hypocritical lie this whole country lives on – “sounds great..as as long as it does not impact my own situation or finances”. Pretty much across the board hypocrisy – judeo- christian values and liberal values. All the same..except people are still alive where blacks were basically slaves and women were no more than property with no rights. Clinging to old fantasy book from 2k years ago as guide for law today is straight up bullshite.

  165. 3b says:

    Bystander: IMO there is a lot of good in the book. Love they neighbor as thy self, honor your mother and Father, and spouse, do unto others etc. the problem is most people find these things difficult to do, as it means sacrifice on their part.

  166. BRT says:

    The problem with those who reject religion is that many of them inadvertently seek out the same type of system elsewhere in a groupthink setting. Often these settings involve the suspension or outright forbidding of disbelief. Most alarming is, it’s infected the scientific community to the point that it’s becoming systemic.

  167. Bystander says:

    3b,

    It is very simple – “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. I tell my young kids this. It is simple and beautiful and the rest of it is straight up bullshite used to control swaths of fear driven and willfully ignorant people. Same with all of them, Quran, Torah too.

  168. joyce says:

    Those concepts didn’t originate in the book.

    3b says:
    August 8, 2021 at 2:08 pm

  169. 3b says:

    Joyce: I am paraphrasing 10 commandants , New Testament, let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. Perhaps some of this came from Greek Philosophy as well. But for Christians/ Jews the 10 commandants/ Torah/ New Testament is where they were introduced to these concepts.

  170. Ex says:

    Someone said at a staff meeting this week,
    “The fewer rules the better. It’s how I live my life.”

  171. 3b says:

    Bystander: I have taught my kids the same, and it has sank in. BRT has a point, regarding some that have rejected organized religion , but have adopted a different system. Some have become almost like the old Puritans anything that does not adhere to their system must be canceled, the old Puritans burnt those that were suspect at the stake.

  172. Bystander says:

    Sure BRT..totally agree. One of best Sout Park episodes too. Carlin and SP basically have our entire human hypocrisy covered brilliantly. We have to invent a construct of superiority whether science or God.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0fCL82XwwU

  173. joyce says:

    I understand and I’m saying it’s nonsense to think Christians/Jews wouldn’t be aware of traits that could be summed up as human decency without religion.

    3b says:
    August 8, 2021 at 2:37 pm
    Joyce: I am paraphrasing 10 commandants , New Testament, let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. Perhaps some of this came from Greek Philosophy as well. But for Christians/ Jews the 10 commandants/ Torah/ New Testament is where they were introduced to these concepts.

  174. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My dad taught me this, and it’s the first lesson i try to instill in my students. I tell them if everyone followed this, you wouldn’t need police. I told them that every law has come about because people don’t follow this rule.

    Bystander says:
    August 8, 2021 at 2:25 pm
    3b,

    It is very simple – “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. I tell my young kids this. It is simple and beautiful and the rest of it is straight up bullshite used to control swaths of fear driven and willfully ignorant people. Same with all of them, Quran, Torah too.

  175. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I went to the American Dream today, took my daughter ice skating. Now I know what it feels like to be a minority. League of nations, and if someone is white, 99% of the time they are an orthodox jew.

    New America. Wayne nj is truly like living in a bubble…that era of america is coming quickly to an end. It was nice while it lasted. Soon my child will be treated like a minority. Ahh, the irony. Wonder how whites will be treated as the minority? I bet based on the white privilege movement, not well. You know how human nature is, look at how crhistians are treated in the Middle East. People cry when they are picked on, but have no problem picking on others.

  176. 3b says:

    Joyce Agreed.

  177. chicagofinance says:

    Non-sequitur, but here you go……

    Behind the Rise of U.S. Solar Power, a Mountain of Chinese Coal

    Reliance on coal-fired electricity to produce solar panels raises concerns in the West

    By Matthew Dalton
    July 31, 2021

    Solar panel installations are surging in the U.S. and Europe as Western countries seek to cut their reliance on fossil fuels.

    But the West faces a conundrum as it installs panels on small rooftops and in sprawling desert arrays: Most of them are produced with energy from carbon-dioxide-belching, coal-burning plants in China.

    Concerns are mounting in the U.S. and Europe that the solar industry’s reliance on Chinese coal will create a big increase in emissions in the coming years as manufacturers rapidly scale up production of solar panels to meet demand. That would make the solar industry one of the world’s most prolific polluters, analysts say, undermining some of the emissions reductions achieved from widespread adoption.

    For years, China’s low-cost, coal-fired electricity has given the country’s solar-panel manufacturers a competitive advantage, allowing them to dominate global markets.

    Chinese factories supply more than three-quarters of the world’s polysilicon, an essential component in most solar panels, according to industry analyst Johannes Bernreuter. Polysilicon factories refine silicon metal using a process that consumes large amounts of electricity, making access to cheap power a cost advantage. Chinese authorities have built an array of coal-burning power plants in sparsely populated areas such as Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia to support polysilicon manufacturers and other energy-hungry industries.

    Producing a solar panel in China creates around twice as much carbon dioxide as making it in Europe, said Fengqi You, professor of energy systems engineering at Cornell University. In some countries or regions that don’t rely heavily on fossil fuels for electricity generation, such as Norway and France, installing a high-carbon, Chinese-made solar panel might not reduce emissions at all, Mr. You said.

    “Yes, we are clean” in the West, said Mr. You. “But then the process of getting these panels from another country—China now, maybe somewhere else later—produces a lot of emissions.”

    Scientists say, however, that installing Chinese-made panels almost always results in a net reduction in carbon dioxide emissions over time, because the panels are usually replacing electricity generated from fossil fuels. The emissions avoided after the first few years of a solar panel’s 30-year lifespan can offset the emissions required to produce it.

    Some Western governments and corporations are attempting to shift the solar industry away from coal. Companies that buy renewable energy are laying the groundwork to favor low-carbon solar panels when financing solar projects. The U.S. federal government is drafting a policy to do the same when it buys solar panels, said a spokesman for the Environmental Protection Agency. And the European Union is considering whether to regulate the carbon content of panels sold throughout the 27-nation bloc, EU officials say.

    These policies would also help rebuild the West’s solar industry, which has withered under competition from higher-polluting Chinese producers, Western executives say.

    U.S. solar power capacity in the last two years has jumped 48%, according to consulting firm Wood Mackenzie. In Europe, it is up 34%. Those installations amount to tens of thousands of solar panels shipped each year.

    “Large energy buyers can influence supply chains,” said Jen Snook of the Renewable Energy Buyers Alliance, which represents Amazon.com Inc., Salesforce.com Inc. and more than 200 other corporations. “Solar hopefully will continue on a very strong growth rate, and we want to ensure that growth is sustainable.”

    The dilemma is becoming more apparent as world leaders prepare to meet in Glasgow, Scotland, in November to make a new push to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Part of that effort involves coaxing China, the world’s largest emitter, to shift away from coal-burning electricity to slash emissions even as the West gorges on Chinese gear from solar panels to lightweight aluminum for electric vehicles. At a July meeting of environment ministers from the Group of 20 leading economies, China and India blocked an agreement to phase out coal-fired electricity.

    Finding alternatives won’t be easy. China’s surging and cheaper polysilicon production has harmed U.S. producers, forcing the shutdown of several factories that use power sources with lower carbon emissions than Chinese producers. Wacker Chemie AG , the West’s largest producer of solar-grade polysilicon, pays up to four times as much for power at its factories in Germany compared with Chinese producers in Xinjiang, said company spokesman Christof Bachmair.

    China has pushed down the price of panels so sharply that solar power is now less expensive than electricity generated from fossil fuels in many markets around the world. Imports of the solar cells that make up the panels are also flooding into the U.S. and Europe.

    Those shipments are either coming directly from China or contain key components made in China.

    “If China didn’t have access to coal, then solar power wouldn’t be cheap now,” said Robbie Andrew, a senior researcher at the Center for International Climate Research in Oslo. “Is it OK that we’ve had this huge bulge of carbon emissions from China because it allowed them to develop all these technologies really cheaply? We might not know that for another 30 to 40 years.”

    Some Chinese polysilicon producers are well-placed to respond to Western demand for low-carbon panels. Tongwei, the world’s largest producer, has some factories that run on hydropower. However, Daqo New Energy and GCL Poly, Tongwei’s main Chinese competitors, rely overwhelmingly on coal, according to the companies.

    France is one of the few countries that regulate the carbon content of solar panels, requiring low-carbon panels for large solar projects. That has encouraged some Chinese panel manufacturers to use renewable energy in some processes, allowing them to sell into the French market. South Korea this year adopted rules inspired by the French system, and other European countries have expressed interest, officials from the region say.

    China’s dominance of the solar supply chain also makes it harder on the handful of companies that are trying to rebuild solar-panel capacity in the West. China is home to most of the companies that slice polysilicon into wafers, package the wafers into cells and assemble the cells into panels. U.S. tariffs on Chinese solar panels and cells have pushed Chinese companies to set up factories for these parts in other countries.

    JinkoSolar, a Chinese firm, built a panel assembly plant in Florida to supply NextEra Energy, one of the largest U.S. renewable-energy companies. But the wafer and polysilicon are from China, analysts say.

    Italian energy company Enel SpA is planning to expand its solar-panel factory in Sicily, one of the few left in Europe, but the factory will still rely on silicon wafers coming from China.

    “We would be happy if the other part of the value chain would be established in Europe,” said Antonello Irace, director of the factory in Sicily. “Think about sustainability, think about labor conditions, think about logistics costs and proximity.”

    Beijing has further hobbled Western efforts by placing tariffs on U.S. polysilicon as part of a long-running trade dispute over solar panels. That blocked U.S. producers from selling raw material to Chinese wafering factories—which have more than 95% of global capacity—leaving them with almost no buyers for their product.

    The tariffs led REC Silicon AS A in 2019 to idle a plant in Moses Lake, Wash., that runs on carbon-free hydropower. The company hoped negotiations between the Trump administration and Beijing would result in the tariffs being dropped. Instead, Beijing last year extended the tariffs for five years.

    “We have a lot of polysilicon capacity,” said David Feldman, a researcher at the U.S. government’s National Renewable Energy Laboratory, “and it would be good for them to have customers.”

  178. Bystander says:

    David Duke could not have said it better…yeesh. Only same demented brain with two different personalities could have posted 2:56 and 3:06 back to back. Think you are right 3b..R*ckland..

  179. The Great Pumpkin says:

    David Duke?! For acknowledging that America has changed significantly. Jesus, cant even romanticize about the past without being called a racist. What did i exactly say that was racist? That whites are becoming a minority and will get picked on in the future? Is that racist or acknowledging the reality? 30 years from now, this will not be a white country, and if that’s racist, you have issues.

    “Ain’t that America, home of the freeeeeee” – John Cougar Mellancamp That america is gone and it will always hold a special place in my heart.

    Bystander says:
    August 8, 2021 at 4:58 pm
    David Duke could not have said it better…yeesh. Only same demented brain with two different personalities could have posted 2:56 and 3:06 back to back. Think you are right 3b..R*ckland..

  180. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Seriously, bystander, you don’t have to be such a dick. People like you make people afraid to say anything about race.

  181. The Great Pumpkin says:

    If you think for one second that whites are going to be treated equally when they are a minority, i have a bridge to nowhere for you. They are already erasing history, attacking whites “white privilege” while whites are still the majority. What do you think will happen when whites are a slim minority. Human nature is a bi!ch.

  182. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Now that’s crazy. Im glad i was able to live when life was simple. This is just too much for me. God bless anyone that has to date her…checking off the boxes on everything you do like you are a product. F that!! Hope she finds no one.

    Phoenix says:
    August 8, 2021 at 5:28 pm
    Pay for me I am hungry.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/aug/08/sales-funnels-and-high-value-men-the-rise-of-strategic-dating

  183. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Who is paying for this? What kind of lesson are you teaching young individuals? That their choices don’t have consequences? That you can yell, scream, and blame to get out of debt?!

    “Student Loan Forbearance—Forever?”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/student-loan-forbearance-debt-11628432145?st=3kdjabryw3nhmjw&reflink=article_copyURL_share

  184. Phoenix says:

    GP,
    College is way too expensive thanks to the Boomers.

  185. Bystander says:

    Don’t worry Blumpy. Whites are at least 400 years ahead in owning all the assets in this country. Should keep us good for another century or so. Glad Orthodox Jews are not really classical whites, impacting your daughters future. I think there have to be a hundred thousand or so out of 330m people in the country. Be on look out though

  186. Phoenix says:

    GP,
    Whites will soon be a minority. Women decide the birth rate. It’s up to them.

  187. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Orthodox Jews are their own cult. 100k? No way, has to be more. And no I don’t consider them traditional white, and i don’t think anyone does. They have all types of colors in that cult. Do you consider them a traditional jew? I didn’t think so.

  188. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And I have no problem with orthodox community…but i do think they have a problem with everyone else. They make sure their cult lives amongst their own and make sure they reproduce amongst their own. If that’s not racist, I don’t know what is. How they get away with it is beyond me.

  189. The Great Pumpkin says:

    They also subject their women to nothing more than breeding machines. I just call it how i see it.

  190. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Phoenix, it’s accelerating faster than they predicted. You are right, white women mostly don’t want to have kids.

    “The U.S. Census Bureau has just released its last batch of race-ethnic population estimates in advance of the 2020 census, with data indicating that the national headcount will reveal a more diverse nation than was previously expected. The new estimates show that nearly four of 10 Americans identify with a race or ethnic group other than white, and suggest that the 2010 to 2020 decade will be the first in the nation’s history in which the white population declined in numbers.”

  191. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My point today, history will repeat itself with racism. The thing is, this time whites will be the one’s being discriminated against. Guess, it’s karma, or how this universe works. White privilege movement is racist, and it’s only the beginning.

    I work in an inner city school, and I witness it first hand. Since I started, almost every white individual in admin has been replaced by a minority. So much for diversity(hypocrisy anyone). I see how the students treat and perceive white people, and I already know what is coming for this nation. As I state over and over again, human nature is a b!tch.

  192. BRT says:

    NJ coronavirus site going berserk. State data looks fine, then go to county by county and it’s all garbage. 10 million cases in Mercer!

    https://projects.nj.com/coronavirus-tracker/

  193. Yo! says:

    BRT, according to that nj.com website, Salem County residents have suffered more than 6 million Covid cases. That is about 90 cases per resident. Journalists need to realize there is a reason people are tired of know-it-all journalists.

  194. Ex says:

    Hollywood stars are leaving Tinseltown behind to recast their lives in Austin, Texas.

    Actors Stephen Amell, Zachary Levi and Jared Padalecki are among the stars who have been beckoned to the state capital, which is in the midst of an economic boom that has only accelerated during the pandemic, according to the Hollywood Reporter.

    “It’s absolutely insane,” Padalecki said of the astronomical growth, the outlet reported.

    “It’s like nothing I’ve ever seen. It’s growth and expansion on a turbocharger. You’re just going like … whoa.”

    The median home prices in the city have skyrocketed 43 percent in the past year as tech companies such as Samsung and Oracle have set up shop in the city and scores of other remote-working employees have been drawn by the opportunity for a lifestyle upgrade.

  195. Ex says:

    Neighbor just sold his house in SoCal
    Paid $270k in 1995 – sold for $869k 2021

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