Fron the NY Post:
‘Jersey Shore’ star Nicole ‘Snooki’ Polizzi sells $740K N.J. beach house
Nicole “Snooki” Polizzi doubled her investment on a New Jersey beach house, property records show.
The former “Jersey Shore” star and her husband, Jionni LaValle, purchased the five-bedroom, two-and-a-half-bathroom home in Brick for $370,000 in November 2015 and sold it for exactly twice that much on Jan. 21, property records show.
Then they put “sweat equity” into the 4,792-square-foot home, a process they documented in a 2016 nine-episode series “Nicole & Jionni’s Shore Flip.”
“This house was perfect [for a quick flip],” Polizzi told The Post when the show premiered.
First
Bought in 2015. Sold in 2021. Perfect for a quick flip she says. Wonder how she defines quick.
Joyce,
I’ll answer your question. I would, and it would continue to be a flaw in the system. What does your question have to do with capitalism and selective tax incentives?
You brought up selective tax incentives, so I was curious if you’d take a tax break as a business owner. I simply mentioned that AOC destroyed 25,000 jobs because she was trying to protect the “little” people, a.k.a her voting bloc.
She was correct, albeit for the wrong reasons. If you could bring yourself to look past your “Democrat = bad” mental block, try answering the question how does giving Amazon a tax break that no other competitor in their industry received comport with capitalism and the free market?
Fast Eddie says:
August 14, 2021 at 8:11 am
You brought up selective tax incentives, so I was curious if you’d take a tax break as a business owner. I simply mentioned that AOC destroyed 25,000 jobs because she was trying to protect the “little” people, a.k.a her voting bloc.
This article from Time popped up on my apple newsfeed. I didn’t go looking for it 3b, just like I didn’t go looking for the wsj articles yesterday. So you can stop saying that “we all know why you hate WFH.” I didn’t write these articles and I sure as hell was not searching for them.
“Research Shows Working From Home Doesn’t Work. Here’s How Employers Should Tackle the Problem
Working from home doesn’t work for many workers. Employers need to tackle the problem with a new model, writes Mimi Nguyen”
“For some, remote work leads to increased productivity, as well as job satisfaction, particularly for those working in technical jobs that require minimal teamwork. In certain industries, this has been the case for some time. Stack Overflow, a New York-based community website for computer programmers, found in 2017 that 53% of 64,000 developers surveyed ranked remote work as one of their five most-valued work benefits.
But the science tells us that workers like them are in a minority and, however topical their case is, we should be cautious about applying such a drastic change across our economies.
Since before the pandemic began I have been assessing multi-disciplinary collaboration in a work-from-home environment for my PhD research at Imperial College, London. Individuals employed on creative projects in virtual teams reported feeling more like a ‘worker’, and less like a member of a family. One respondent said of employers: “They don’t see how early you show up in front of your computer…They don’t see how hard I’m working.”
But more damaging than the effects of working from home on individuals, is what it does to teams. Remote work often breaks the mechanisms that allow a team to work together creatively. Studies have found that the best creative work occurs when a team is in a state of flow, or focuses its collective attention on a single problem together, known as ‘team flow’. But remote work makes it harder to keep everyone engaged in solving that problem. In my study, many respondents said it was hard to gauge when a team member had zoned out during a Zoom call.”
https://apple.news/AW6MPK3T5TnmH5jwzox3qvA
And once again, the guy you accuse of not knowing anything about corporate wfh because he is a teacher has been consistently correct. I’ve said what all these articles are saying months ago on this blog.
8:11 the issue was tied to huge tax incentives given to a massive corporate entity that neither pays taxes or deserves “incentives” to locate in Queens.
9:00 and yet millions will continue to work from home.
how does giving Amazon a tax break that no other competitor in their industry received comport with capitalism and the free market?
I suppose when you have the potential to create 25,000 jobs and 50,000 ancillary jobs, you’re going to get preferential treatment. That’s tens of thousands of jobs that are paying taxes and are purchasing goods and services that Amazon offers. Amazon makes a profit that rewards stock holders who buy cars, furniture, concert tickets, dancing lessons, paint and bagels that profit dozens of other industries that grow faster than a covid outbreak in a nursing home. I believe that’s a model of capitalism.
Ex, from the end of the Time article. Yes, like the article suggests, a minority of the population will work remotely like they always have. The rest are going back to in person whether they realize it or not.
“The evidence is clear that, for the majority of workers in most industries, working from home doesn’t work. But we can still take the lessons we have learned about what today’s—and tomorrow’s—employees want, and make that part of the new normal in offices post-pandemic.”
“Bought in 2015. Sold in 2021. Perfect for a quick flip she says. Wonder how she defines quick.”
LOL. They also put in ‘five or six’ days a week in sweat equity.
Far be it from me to disparage anyone for working hard and making an extra $25k or so a year but these headlines on flipping are misleading. Once you subtract the cost of your time the capital gains are less…part of your return is paying yourself to work.
Best real estate play crossing equity risk, leverage, and return for me seems to be buying your early residences (often apartments) and then keeping them as rentals as you move up. Entry market rarely suffers, condo minimizes exogenous costs…just let the mortgage wind down and create equity and FCF a couple decades out…
Wish I had someone to advise me so….my exact apartment in Hoboken sold in the low 5s recently, comp units rent for $2k+ monthly. Could have bought it under $100k back in the day.
I would look up my Park Slope place but the stats on that one would likely make me cry lol.
“the issue was tied to huge tax incentives…to locate in Queens.”
I’m going to agree with both Joyce and Fast…
Joyce, yes, tax incentives and abatements are a total perversion of capitalism and fair market principles, however….
…(agreeing with Fast) they would not exist except for the total mismanagement of government by politicians who make their areas unattractive for relocation through their policies…
Basically, if you don’t royally fcuk up your municipality you won’t then have to hand out one-off perks to ameliorate your bad policies and bring selected entities to par with other areas.
60 is the new 30: What a new study says about metabolism and aging
Metabolic rate remains stable all through adult life, from age 20 to 60 years old.
Blaming those extra pounds on a slowing metabolism as you age? Not so fast.
A new international study counters the common belief that our metabolism inevitably declines during our adult lives. Well, not until we’re in our 60s, anyway.
https://apple.news/AJulFDwJNSMKDtrvZmTmFcg
Amazon’s winning streak in its battle against the U.S. tax system remains intact. This week the retail giant announced record-breaking sales and income for 2020, and an effective federal income tax rate of just 9.4 percent, less than half the statutory corporate tax of 21 percent.
By any measure, Amazon’s growth in the pandemic year has been remarkable. Its worldwide pretax income for 2020 was $24 billion, up 73 percent from the $14 billion it enjoyed in the last pre-pandemic year. Its sales were up 38 percent over the prior year—during a pandemic. The company’s U.S. income in 2020 was $20 billion. If Amazon had paid 21 percent of its profits in federal income tax, that would have come to $4.1 billion. The company’s reported current tax of $1.8 billion was less than half that, meaning last year Amazon avoided $2.3 billion in taxes.
you’re going to get preferential treatment.
I thought only leftist communist woke cry babies want preferential treatment?
Fast Eddie likes it when republicans play politics, but not when the democrats do it. Professional athlete uses their fame and status to try to do something = bad. Owner of professional sports team lobbies for taxpayer funded stadium and other incentives to stay/relocate = good.
tax incentives and abatements are a total perversion of capitalism and fair market principles, however….
Yes.
…(agreeing with Fast) they would not exist except for the total mismanagement of government by politicians who make their areas unattractive for relocation through their policies…
No. They exist so special interests can benefit, and politicians want the power to offer them, making it look like they are ‘creating jobs’. Cases have been filed over the constitutionality of these special incentives, and they have been found to be unconstitutional… and then dismissed on appeal for lack of standing (because the cases were filed by mere peons (taxpayers)). I wonder what would happen if one was filed by an AG or Governor. Regardless, they never will because then they would also lose the power to offer them.
I thought only leftist communist woke cry babies want preferential treatment?
They have nothing to offer in exchange. They consume, they don’t produce. They want comfort and a lifestyle at the expense of someone else. What value can you bring? The more valuable you are, the nicer stateroom you’ll receive.
And there is plenty of research and proof that WFH does work period. You don’t like it as it negatively may affect your personal situation. You should stop denying that.
You don’t offer another view. What you do is support anything that benefits you
Directly, and scream against anything that may negatively impact you . That is not intellectual rigorous discussion. Off to the beach
Okay, great. Shouldn’t the ‘more valuable people’ have to earn it like your father did and not receive preferential treatment from the government?
Fast Eddie says:
August 14, 2021 at 10:29 am
I thought only leftist communist woke cry babies want preferential treatment?
They have nothing to offer in exchange. They consume, they don’t produce. They want comfort and a lifestyle at the expense of someone else. What value can you bring? The more valuable you are, the nicer stateroom you’ll receive.
“No. They exist so special interests can benefit, and politicians want the power to offer them…”
Parsing words not to be argumentative, as I think we are actually in agreement.
They have the opportunity to exist because some jurisdictions are tax and spend hellholes. If every jurisdiction were level on taxes, tax rates would not matter.
They are entrenched because, yes, the incompetent fools who are running these jurisdictions need power and control as it is the only marketable skill they have. Without it, if most municipal politicians needed to survive in the private sector the predominant occupation would be parking attendant.
What’s funny here is that people in here were arguing the other side of this argument when Camden were looking to give a tax break to Subaru.
AOC made a few good points the first being that the City was paying $50K for each of those jobs. That would take around 20years to break even on tax revenue.
Next getting that number of people into that part of Queens would put a strain on local transportation.
When the site was announced the property speculation started. I’m sure a few people got burned when the deal fell through. There would be a big squeeze on affordable housing stock in the area.
The government is going to give “preferential treatment” to certain individuals as that is how they derive their power and control.
Sometimes its an outright bribe. Or a familial relationship.
It’s the reason I believe many are anti-government. They have the capability and power to do the right things, they just can’t seem to keep their hands out of the cookie jar.
Repost from late yesterday from me
As usual, very well done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYsa1mYgeHw
What the Amazon debacle shows is that the tax climate in the northeast is hostile to business and unless we are willing to knock it off, we will continue to prevent people from opening up shop. Preferential treatment was B’s and it was funny to watch all these liberal states who rail against tax breaks to line up to offer Amazon whatever they wanted. In the end it was a stupid move to chase them away. Aoc made her point and her district is poorer for it
Back after 4 day trip through Amish Country. Literally stayed at farm run by hardcore Amish. Extremely nice. Broke all their rules probably in terms of drinking, smoking, staying up late, taking lord’s name etc. No ac in farmhouse but ran some fans. Reality check when I saw 4 year old in wool dress and white hat working garden with Mom in 95 degree heat. Tough people. Made it to a night for Phish in Hershey which was fun. All I can say, the most liberal crowd imaginable was nearly devoid of masks. Most had them but perhaps 10% actually wore them around. About 18k in place I would say. Took kids to Dutch Wonderland which was completely maskless. Nice place for under 10 crowd but seems understaffed. Light crowd on Weds. yet one person working rides so took lots of time for water rides. Still run. Last trip was Strasburg rail for my 7 year old. Awesome place with a nice picnic stop with view of nothing but farms and corn. Area has been built up alot. Have not been in 14 years. Hershey Farm looked like huge resort spa for rich folks. Pretty area overall. Still old school which was nice. No chance to read through all posts. Thanks Chi..that article is perfect. I am seriously considering as two contract jobs at 60hr may keep me afloat. I can’t wait for Sept sh*tshow in a few weeks. Wake up call. Vacation is over, mass layoffs in leisure and travel, winter is coming, inflation rising, pressure to end Fed stimulus, new variants coming and teachers will protest. Trying to force return to office..good luck.
They are all corrupt. If you don’t believe the news stories, I knew one on the inside (my step father’s older brother). He proudly made a point of not allowing anyone to purchase his favor, which was quite novel as he represented a rich area outside of DC. But he was old school. The new school pushes people like him into early retirement. Oh the stories he would tell about how things really worked.
Think I saw Ed in Hershey..were you guy walking around crowd with red hat and Beijing Biden t-shirt, trying to anger crowd. Wish I got a pic of that guy.
“Child COVID-19 hospitalization rates hit record in U.S. — but not in California. Here’s why”
“Public health officials have said that California has taken steps to ensure children can go back to school safely, including requiring masks in indoor school settings and regular testing for unvaccinated workers. They also believe higher-than-average levels of vaccination in the state will help protect children.
“Parents should feel reassured that case rates are still very low amongst children; serious illnesses still remains relatively rare,” said L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer. “And if we all are doing our part, we’re hopeful that schools are going to open with a lot of safety and without a lot of increased risk.””
https://apple.news/Aw-fGe2H2Q367S3emq6A3mA
Bystander,
That whole trip you just did, from Strasburg to Hershey to Lancaster to Dutch Wonderland is something we’ve done in the past. I love that whole area. And some Phish to boot! Sounds like a great trip. But no, that wasn’t me in the hat. :)
This one was great as well. Somehow I missed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IBa88VkM6g
JK Ed..yes it is beautiful place. Still have time to make it to AC for two nights. Phish Sunday night show would be can’t miss. They usually play to crowd as partiers leave after Fri and Sat. If you have not seen them, I would suggest it highly. Not 1997 level but very capable of playing incredible jams. Wish I could but wife gave me one get out of jail and knows why I chose PA for vacation..hah
Left wing,
Yes we are definitely in agreement. To continue parsing: I’d refer to examples of cities that are not tax and spend hellholes that still gave out incentives. And other communities that were maybe devastated due to NAFTA, China/WTO, globalization et al
Why don’t you roll tape
Fabius Maximus says:
August 14, 2021 at 12:30 pm
What’s funny here is that people in here were arguing the other side of this argument when Camden were looking to give a tax break to Subaru.
I guess America does make something after all. My bad.
https://youtu.be/5IBa88VkM6g?t=4220
To be fair Phish suck.
Pumps give it a rest. We went back to school all over the country last year with nearly no issues while you taught remotely. Like I said we did all the heavy lifting for you.
Here: https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/659wb6/phish-has-been-a-band-for-thirty-years-now-and-they-have-sucked-the-whole-time
Ex,
I thought Primus sucked? I would not ever fault anyone for thinking that. Their music is not for everyone. Songwriting and vocals can be cringeworthy. They are not the Dead..but they have ability to soar musically that few bands reach. Once you hear it, you can appreciate what they bring. It is often 5m of silly lyrics then musical bliss. 12/31/93 Reba or Harry Hood are examples How many bands play Peaches En Regalia by Zappa? Or Crosseyed and Painless by Talking Heads or Walk Away by James Gang all in same set. They play what they like, good or bad.
The point of that article was masking and getting the vaccine work. Nice job.
BRT says:
August 14, 2021 at 2:13 pm
Pumps give it a rest. We went back to school all over the country last year with nearly no issues while you taught remotely. Like I said we did all the heavy lifting for you.
And I don’t want to teach remotely. I hate it. It’s like groundhog day over and over. No thanks.
I also agree on crowd but see plenty of weed at metal shows and bluegrass events. I have basically zero in common with would be cult followers who spend summer driving around selling grilled cheese as job, with kids tow. Plenty of nice folks but spare me ‘love’ lifestyle bullS$t. Last I checked they were selling $30 tshirts. Too much of anything is bad.
Uh oh Blumpy, I felt your fear in Lancaster area. Many non-whites are taking over, tons of Amish and Hasidics together…ahh.
Hey idiot, don’t try to group me with antivaxxers. I said vaccines work when you were still whining in May that you shouldn’t go back because the kids might touch each other.
New Jersey’s Democrat governor Phil Murphy is slammed for flying to his $7M Italian villa as state deals with Delta surge
Murphy set off on a 10-day getaway to his 23-room multimillion-dollar villa in Umbria last Tuesday with plans to return to New Jersey next Thursday
The timing of his trip has raised eyebrows due to his state being in the midst of a COVID spike fueled by the delta variant
On Friday, state officials reported another 1,776 confirmed COVID-19 cases and nine more confirmed deaths
Republican opponent Jack Ciattarelli tweeted ‘While ‘Rome is burning’ here in New Jersey, Murphy is living in the lap of luxury’
America coming unglued. Great video.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/p4gwwx/violent_clash_outside_city_hall_in_los_angeles/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Phoenix,
Divide and conquer political strategy. This is how you control the idiots from both sides.
If these people from both sides on this video didn’t hate each other this much, they would be coming for their neighbors who have more than them instead. Human nature is a bitch. Thank goodness our ruling elite know what they are doing with the crazies.
Just put the miserable f’ks against each other and call it a day. Easy leadership move. These are the people that will never be happy. Always angry. So let them fight each other.
Sad part, for some in the video, this is the highlight of their entire life. Hey, Homer!!!
How can someone take something so precious (life) and throw it away.
George Carlin said I should just see this as a form of entertainment. So I do.
He was right all along.
Teacher vid for you pumps:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/p4hoym/best_field_trip/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
I grew up going through that area. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I won’t get into the tax break issue, but it was a major loss for that community. AOC is a clown. The damage done there is incalculable. So sad.
Fabius Maximus says:
August 14, 2021 at 12:30 pm
Next getting that number of people into that part of Queens would put a strain on local transportation.
I can think of something worse than AOC apparently chasing away jobs. How about offering $3B in tax subsidies, hosting a big WH party and bragging how you restored America while getting county $1b in debt for nothing?
Wisconsin’s top economic development official, who recently renegotiated a $2.85 billion incentive package with Foxconn down to $80 million, says the episode helped cause the state to rethink its approach to business subsidies.
The Taiwanese electronics manufacturer promised to create 13,000 jobs at a project that former President Trump called “the eighth wonder of the world.” But the company never met its hiring targets, and the future of the vastly scaled-down facility is unclear.
Industry experts say companies and states have gotten less aggressive about subsidies as a means to attract businesses, choosing instead to look more closely at factors like workforce and infrastructure.
Bystander,
Exactly right. Saying AOC chased away jobs, in fact mentioning her specifically at all on this topic, is just red/blue nonsense.
“Exactly right. Saying AOC chased away jobs, in fact mentioning her specifically at all on this topic, is just red/blue nonsense.”
Ehhh…she herself sought and wore that mantle, and and to become the face of that ’cause’.
Fox News didn’t make her a bogeyman, she specifically wanted the role of spoiler for her own street cred.
Tax abatement going to be a part of this project, which sounds like it includes politically connected developers. Seaside is not a tax and spend hell hole relative to other NJ towns coastal and non coastal.
https://www.app.com/story/news/local/redevelopment/2021/05/06/seaside-heights-picks-redeveloper-steel-skeleton-property-condos-restaurant-retail-planned/4959261001/
https://www.nj.com/news/2021/08/demolition-set-to-start-monday-on-a-rusting-steel-eyesore-of-the-jersey-shore.html
Lmao…
Phoenix says:
August 14, 2021 at 10:31 pm
Teacher vid for you pumps:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/p4hoym/best_field_trip/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
“Tonight I helplessly held the hand of and stroked the hair of a beautiful 14 year old girl as she exited this world. She was looking forward to starting high school and eventually becoming a veterinarian. It was so senseless! I truly believe she could have been saved if her”
https://twitter.com/jessicam6946/status/1426569586963632140?s=21
parents had not forbidden us from intubating her. A free vaccination would have prevented it all! This little girl was robbed of her whole life and of fulfilling all of her dreams. She had been with us 9 days and was able to communicate well until taking a turn for the worse
yesterday. About 2 hours later we were unable to save a 25 year old mother of 1 who was 15 weeks pregnant. She had refused the vaccines because of the lies about them causing infertility and harming her baby. Liars killed her, her baby and robbed a 2 year old little boy of his
mommy and sibling. Not to mention robbing a husband of his wife and child. Those were 2 of 4 deaths we had tonight with the oldest being 45 years old! It was the 1st time since late March we have lost more than 3 covid patients in a single shift. Then we find out this morning
Leftwing,
Both are true. She wanted the spotlight and republicans and media wanted content. But who has the bigger microphone and audience… AOC or the media? My point regarding her and NYC/Amazon is that there were many democratic politicians making the rounds critical of the proposal.
There was a time when corporations like Amazon would have been cut down to size by the Govt like they did to AT&T.
I don’t know for sure, but I don’t even think AT&T was as big as Amazon when its wings were not clipped, but chopped.
Things have changed that’s for sure.
Mississippi up to #4 position for mortality rate, rest of the south quickly moving up the chart.
Grim, pretty sad given what tools we have and what we now know
“Roll Tape.”
You could cut this thread into todays and I dont think anyone would notice.
https://njrereport.com/index.php/2014/07/11/a-million-dollars-a-job-subsidy-nothing-to-see-here-move-on/#comments
Fab,
I agree.
978 Billion dollars spent in Afghanistan, today we are running for the hills to evacuate like its Vietnam all over again.
Just think what could have been done had that money been spent in America.
Grim,
At least when you die you don’t have to worry about paying NJ taxes.
Your estate will handle it for you.
Is it too early to declare Biden the worst president ever? Stiff competition with other Dems like Jimmy Carter, who gave away the Panama Canal, oversaw the Iran hostage crisis, and gave birth to stagflation. Then of course there’s Oblama who gave us ISIS, the war on police and ‘leading from behind’, and watched pathetically as the Russians grabbed Crimea and slid back into the middle east. But I don’t think any of the other disastrous Dems have been as bad as SlowJoe, who in just 6 months has given us runaway inflation, a disastrous immigration policy that will result in the importation of 2+ million illegal immigrants this year, with untold numbers of them sick with covid, and a complete unraveling of the middle east, including not just the resuscitation of the evil Iranian regime, but now the Vietnam-like fall of Afghanistan as well. And before you say so what on Afghanistan, don’t be surprised to see it once again become the primary breeding ground for middle east terrorism — only a matter of time before our shores once again. I’d say it’s unbelievable, but it’s really just more of the same from the modern Dem party.
SGC,
Just move to Costa Rica. Your worries will melt away.
Haha
https://youtu.be/KLODGhEyLvk
Did you read the link you posted? Was Subaru mentioned? Did myself, LW, BRT or Gary say something different then that was said the last two days?
Fabius Maximus says:
August 15, 2021 at 4:42 pm
“Roll Tape.”
You could cut this thread into todays and I dont think anyone would notice.
https://njrereport.com/index.php/2014/07/11/a-million-dollars-a-job-subsidy-nothing-to-see-here-move-on/#comments
Small : I agree it makes Biden look bad, but there was no saving Afghanistan unless we stayed there forever. It’s a tribal society made up of multiple ethnic groups who pretty much hate each other in spite of them all being Muslim. I do feel bad for the civilians especially the women , they will be going back to the 12th century again. Of course Liberals will remain silent, just like their silence over Chinese destruction of the ethnic Uighurs.
Thousands in that damn country need a damn backbone transplant. I would gladly go there and put a damn backbone in each and every one of them damn Afghans. I hate cut and run, but this is what the damn liberals do. We ought to stay right where the hell we are and if it takes another damn 20 years, so be it.
I wonder if it might be a good time to go over there and do some damn flipping.
12 of Texas 22 regional hospital zones are have between o to 10 icu beds. Only 332 icu beds available in the whole state.
https://www.wfaa.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/multiple-regions-across-texas-now-completely-out-of-icu-beds-data-shows/287-aaffc3f1-5d3b-4fa7-911d-bfd56bc174c9
And when I was out today over 90% of the people I saw were not wearing masks. The. I went to hmart and everyone was wearing a mask
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In neighboring Hungary, which approved the resort to of Sputnik in February as the understandable in Europe, more than 50% of the matured denizens has already been vaccinated; in Russia – a bantam more than 10%. In Slovakia, five thousand people signed up payment the Sputnik vaccination.
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Give them another 900 billion.
That might be enough to grow a spine.
Let Musk, Gates, and Zuckerberg pay for it.
I surely don’t want a dime of my money going there.
Either that or ship every Karen there with a megaphone to nag them to death.
I’d be fine with that.
HMB,
Don’t worry, Texas can handle it.
We did in NJ.
Man up, grow a pair, and enjoy the ride.
Sunday night Karen
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/p4ymy7/karen_has_a_temper_tantrum_because_she_doubts/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
“Give them another 900 billion.
That might be enough to grow a spine.
Let Musk, Gates, and Zuckerberg pay for it.
I surely don’t want a dime of my money going there.
Either that or ship every Karen there with a megaphone to nag them to death.
I’d be fine with that.”
I resent this sort of damn attitude. Let me tell you something, these damn colors don’t run. Biden got in office and decided to cut and run immediately like some damn wuss. Trump would have put some damn spine in those damn wimpish security forces. We gave them the damn money and training and they should have been forced to do their damn job. I have no problem paying more taxes if that’s what’s needed to jam a damn spine in those jellyfish.
Resent it all you want. I had your attitude until I was treated like a criminal by the justice system of America when I was innocent.
Personally I don’t care one bit what happens now.
I have legal bills to pay. That comes before tax money for Afghanistan.
Financial giant State Street Corp. STT -0.73% is vacating its two New York City office locations.
Executives at the Boston firm told New York staffers they won’t be returning to its Midtown Manhattan offices, according to people familiar with the matter. It expects to sublease the two offices near Rockefeller Center to other companies.
Many of State Street’s New York employees have worked remotely since the pandemic’s early days. The financial firm, like others, sent staffers to work from home when infections started surging across the country. Later, U.S. employees who needed an office could go into work if they followed safety protocols. The firm’s New York offices remained sparsely occupied.
In May, State Street told New York staffers to prepare for the closure of their offices. More than 500 employees across the firm’s custody bank and money-management businesses will be affected, some of the people said.
You don’t know where your damn freedom comes from do you? I bet you’re one of these damn people who want to jab a damn needle in everyone’s damn arm or force them into a damn mask. People aren’t treated like criminals unless they’re guilty of something. Your damn legal bills don’t take precedence over my freedom. We need to keep our damn purse open until freedom reigns in Afghanistan. I’m willing to personally go over there and stiffen some damn backbones.
I resent your Karen video also.
“I bet you’re one of these damn people who want to jab a damn needle in everyone’s damn arm or force them into a damn mask.”
Nope. I don’t care if you do or don’t. I respect your choice.
” People aren’t treated like criminals unless they’re guilty of something.”
Nope. This happens quite frequently. I disagree with you on this point.
“Your damn legal bills don’t take precedence over my freedom.”
Nope. You choose to spend your money where you like, I will do the same with mine.
“I’m willing to personally go over there and stiffen some damn backbones.”
No one stopping you, especially me. Enjoy your trip.
Housing market, stock market, and bond market all overpriced.
Middle east and western USA on fire.
Covid ramping up and learning how to evade the body’s defenses.
America looking like the world’s stooge and traitor after abandoning it’s mission.
Joe is missing, can’t be found. Murphy is enjoying his vacation in his villa.
Capitol building in Texas is flooding.
Just a typical Monday morning in the good ol’ USA.
Good morning, America.
Planes clinging to airplanes as they take off and fall to their deaths in Kabul…
This is no Saigon? Many countries still need to evac thousands, it will take days of fights to do it and unless they get better control of the airport in Kabul it’s going to get worse.
opps meant to say people clinging to planes..
They found old Joe.
He is at breakfast reading a copy of My Pet Goat.
Funny how it all comes full circle.
America elected this dolt. You reap what you sow.
Juice,
The pictures on the Daily Mail (paper that shows what America is really like) are incredible.
It’s a lost cause over there, unless you want to restart the war.
The list of failures domestically and internationally for this current administration goes beyond angry to absolute sadness. In seven months, the O’Biden administration has created a level of botch and falsehood at a pace that even his critics can’t describe. Failure after failure lead by his henchmen as this president in name only is propped up to take the hits that he doesn’t even recognize. Pray for mercy that people are intelligent enough to put a halt to this at the midterm elections.
WSJ has picture of Taliban driving a Humvee instead of a Toyota.
Don’t they realize that the Toyota is way more reliable?
Eddie,
Clot was right. It’s the end of times.
Smoke ’em if you got ’em.
The world is going to turn on America now. It cannot be trusted.
Well, truthfully, no, it cannot.
“Freedoms just another word for, nothing left to lose.”
Scam
Iconic
https://vp.nyt.com/video/2021/08/16/95287_1_16vid-afghan-airport-scenes_wg_720p.mp4
Now throw a bit of spin. Putting Biden’s face on the 404. Haha.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9897939/Republicans-remove-page-praising-Donald-Trumps-historic-Taliban-peace-deal.html
Those people are simply out for a morning jog and decided to do it in the airport. There’s nothing wrong with trying to stay in shape. Those shots in the background are simply a few folks celebrating the Afghan New Year. Stop trying to make this worst than what it is.
Leftist leadership is a recipe for chaos. “Elections have consequences”
“Why We Fail” at substack blog, That’s Another Fine Mess:
In 2008, Ruslan Aushev, a highly decorated combat veteran of the Soviet adventure in Afghanistan who served two tours, first as an infantry battalion commander and later in charge of a full Soviet regiment during nearly five years, gave an interview to the Toronto Globe and Mail:
“Canadians and Americans are learning the hard way. You have been there seven years and you have no prospect of early victory. We knew by 1985 that we could not win,” he recalls. It then took Moscow four more years to extricate hundreds of thousands of troops from Afghanistan, while claiming victory on the way out. Afghanistan was plunged into civil war.”We could take any village, any town and drive the mujahedeen out. But when we handed ground over to the Afghan army or police they would lose it in a week.”
“The Taliban may not be able to win militarily but they can’t be defeated and sooner or later the Western alliance will be forced with pullout,” he warned. Support for the insurgents will grow the longer the foreign armies remain in Afghanistan, he said. Although the Soviets deployed more than 100,000 soldiers across Afghanistan and trained an Afghan army three times the size of Kabul’s current security forces, it was never enough, Mr. Aushev said. “There will have to be an accord with the Taliban, because at least 50 per cent of the Afghan population supports them. It’s impossible to conquer the Afghans. Alexander the Great couldn’t do it, the British couldn’t do it, we couldn’t do it and the Americans won’t do it. No one can.”
This morning, amidst the reports of the end of the U.S. Afghan war, NBC News Pentagon Correspondent Courtney Kube gave the best analysis of the actual military situation on the ground I have heard in 20 years of war reporting about Afghanistan.
She pointed out that, no matter how much training and equipment the United States could provide, we could not give the Afghans the will to fight, the willingness to fight to the death against the Taliban. “And throughout the war, the Taliban fighters have been willing to lay down their lives for their cause,” she stated, nailing the essential truth. She went on to point out that while there were Afghan special forces that had been fighting very competently for several years, “The average soldiers, they’re out in the rural areas, and they get told that the people who have been supporting them are leaving in a few months. That means no more medevac, no more air support, no more logisitics – the simple things like providing food and fuel and ammunition regularly. No more air control to tell the air force where to provide support. You have to understand the corruption there in the government, in the military, they’re unable to provide just those absolute basics.. That loss of support led to a loss of morale. And the result was they stopped fighting because they couldn’t see a way they could win.”
The truth is, we shouldn’t have been in Afghanistan in the first place. Glad someone had the balls to do the right thing for a change.
The GDP of Afghanistan is like $500 a year. You can’t turn mud dwellers into freedom loving capitalists.
Middle East is a lost cause, there is a reason why only ruthless dictatorships can survive. Tribes has been at war for 3000 years, stop now? Nah.
The fact that the Taliban could take over in 3 days is testament to 20 years of failure.
Get out, don’t look back.
We could have had at least 3 monorails and a new fighter jet for that trillion dollars.
China, in true capitalist fashion, will define the next two decades of modernization.
The United States is by far the most wealthy and powerful empire over the eight or so millennia of civilized humankind.
No nation, aggregation of people, or prior empire comes close to our prosperity. Our technological prowess is unmatched in history. We have an arsenal of weapons more powerful than the arsenals of all historic empires combined. We have the unparalleled ability to project that military prowess around the globe, at a moment’s notice.
So which is more demeaning?
The leader of that empire pleading with the leader of a failed State to not attack certain of our industries electronically?
Or our powerful military fleeing from a bunch of hapless lightly mechanized bedouin, exiting so quickly as to leave their materiel to these victors?
I’m so glad we elected Joe.
Because I, for one, certainly looked forward to the promise of him restoring international respect for America.
No matter…..somewhere, on the shore of a lake in some Nordic country, there is a pouty 16 year old sailor girl who admires him greatly. Go Joe Go!
Lib I am glad we are out of Afghanistan too. It’s how it was done that is pathetic and Joe as President owns that .
Yet left, the military might means less when you gave away your manufacturing and product to a giant communist country bc the titans wanted cheap labor and billions in profits. Now, politicians won’t make one aggressive military decision that would rattle the corporatocracy. Economic power is the true power. Digital war is replacing real war. We are losing these things internally as a a united country.
So the guy sitting at the middle of the Kabul palace photo op, he’s the one that Trump released?
3B – Agreed, I doubt anyone really thought their corrupt government and their military would defend, we should have pulled everyone else out before the troops. To send them back in like this is a real mess.
No commercial air traffic over Afghanistan now, as well they don’t have air traffic controllers anymore etc, my understanding was contractors were providing it not the locals. I have to wonder how far back to the dark ages they will go. They all seems to have smartphones and internet access.
There are many other countries with citizens there still. UK, Australia, France, Germany etc. We have sent something like 6,000 troops to the airport and many more from other countries. Some countries are lacking in the ability to extract their citizens and families. They say some Taliban showed up at the airport and fired weapons. It is going to be a tense few days as the militaries of many countries try and get everyone out safely. There is a fleet of US tankers flying refueling there too, military planes land, fill up right away and then takeoff then refuel almost immediately in the air.
No worries. Joe can own this if it makes right dolts feel better. In a few days, we will be back to not giving a sh*t about the sand people. Joe owns Dow 36k, housing value up big time and blowout jobs report..all America cares about baby. Go Joe.
Their new “president” was captured in Pakistan and released in 2018. Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, negotiated the settlement with the Trump admin in Qatar…..Ofcoure they are not living up to it, there will be no coalition and power sharing.
They have a saying over there “You have the watches but we have the time”
They played the long game here….and well seems they won…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war
Haha! Like clockwork, the Dem stooges (which now include Grim, unfortunately) show up to excuse Joe’s latest disaster with a nonsensical ‘so what!’. It’s the type of lazy dismissiveness that is almost inherent with modern Dems — and is precisely why SlowJoe has given us one disaster after another.
Remember these things — be prepared to have to go back in at some point and take care of them again…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_training_camp
Seems their former President did not flee with a helicopter full of cash. Hamid Karzi was put in by Bush and team in 2001 and was there until 2014 as their leader. If the Taliban are going to lop off anyone’s head it would be him.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/in-video-with-daughters-afghanistans-hamid-karzai-appeals-to-taliban-2511055
SGC = So goddamn clueless
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/973604904/trumps-deal-to-end-war-in-afghanistan-leaves-biden-with-a-terrible-situation
Check the date on this. Then read this. Then ignore this and come back on here and parrot the narrative. It’s pretty much all you are good at.
Meanwhile, all across the southern half of our country, idiot followers of voodoo science are overcrowding hospitals and bringing death to those who choose not to walk off the plank for the moron populists.
Since you won’t read anything of substance (you know, facts), here is the one paragraph that matters.
“One of Donald Trump’s campaign promises was to end the war in Afghanistan. Last year, he negotiated an agreement with the Taliban to withdraw all U.S. forces by May 1 of 2021. That’s less than two months away. Not represented in that agreement were members of the Afghan government. They’re now negotiating with the Taliban. Meanwhile, President Biden, having inherited the Trump deal, faces some tough choices, as my guest, Dexter Filkins, explains in his new piece in The New Yorker. If Biden succeeds in pulling out troops, he will end a forever war. But with U.S. troops gone, civil war could flare up, the Taliban could take over and the war Americans fought could be deemed a failure.”
Say it isn’t so Joe.
https://www.reddit.com/r/afghanistan/comments/p4vakh/just_last_month_aged_like_milk_or_bread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
And even with the Trump setup, I actually give Biden credit for pulling out. Something the pussy in chief wasn’t willing to do during his own term.
And even with the Trump setup, I actually give Biden credit for pulling out. Something the puzzy in chief wasn’t willing to do during his own term.
Forgetting history Lib? Biden voted for this war 20 years ago as Senator and supported it and also presided over it for 8 years as second in command. Trump pulled us out of it, set a hard deadline that Joe extended too and now has botched. He owns this way more than Trump ever could have, as maybe if he was AGAINT it instead of FOR it twenty years ago it would have not happened.
Did they purposely pose? That one photo shows like The Last Supper.
Sure Biden owns it. I’m good with it. I praise it.
Twenty years ago was a different time, especially in relation to state sponsored terrorism. Nonetheless, I would probably have been against it back then too.
They are looking for false equivalence. Well Trump wanted to withdrawal. Nervermind this is a total collapse. Kind of like comparing rand Paul’s wife trading 15k of Amgen with Malinowski and others insider trading for millions.
But we’ll see much more of this until Biden is gone. Ever increasing crises . His mind is shot leaving a vacuum of leadership. All were left with are America hating SJWs.
On the $5T spent and blood spilled in the middle east . . .
I support fully President Biden’s withdrawal of all troops from Afghanistan. The point of going into Afghanistan was to disable the AQ camps which the Taliban permitted. These camps were disrupted and destroyed in approximately 2001-2002. The initial military campaign which established nominal control over the country was lightning fast and the US lost less than 50 soliders to do so. The US should have pulled out shortly thereafter, and maybe a few tens of billions could have been justifiably been spent on some rudimentary statebuilding on the way out. Maybe $50B, 100 US lives, and 3 years could have been spent rather than the $2T, 2,000 US lives, and 20 years that we did. Even if the Taliban was back in control of the country in 2004 or 2005, they might have been chastened a bit because they might have realized that certain policies (such as harboring AQ) would possibly result in the US returning.
Parenthetically, the mainstream media might be the biggest villain in this whole ordeal. On last Thursday, when the Taliban had captured a handful of provincial capitals and it was appearing that they were going to roll to victory quickly controlling the whole country, this was the top story of the 10 PM “news” programs of the three mainstream media cable networks:
-MSNBC (Bill Barr allowed the investigation of potential election fraud in the 2020 election to begin earlier than usual)
-CNN (an interview with a 50-ish year old covid hospital patient in Louisiana – the man appeared to be 5’9, 240 lbs.)
-Fox (some nonsense about Biden’s “war on work”)
More importantly, we spent $5T on the War on Terror. $5T is a big proportion of our $28T in national debt. This expenditure was part of our overreaction to the 9/11 attacks. Along with the misguided spending, we’ve also degraded our citizens for 20 years now (shoes off at the airport, can’t bring liquids through security, etc) and increasing evidence shows that many “plots” foiled by our security forces were entrapment of idiots who wouldn’t have done anything without being prodded by undercovers. The US alienated a sizeable portion of the global 1B muslim people, and possibly a greater total number of non-muslims, because there was some fairness (especially due to Iraq) in characterizing the US as a warmonger empire baldly willing to kill 1m+ people for geopolitics or wealth or whatever. I’d argue that our overreaction was the best possible outcome for anti-western proponents after 9/11 – the debt and our propensity to overreact to national traumas are probably the greatest existential threat to the maintenance of the US as the sole global superpower.
We repeated this overreaction with Covid – we spent $3T to confront a disease which has resulted in 93% of US mortalities being people over 50 years old; 77% over 65 years old. If we spent $1T on an effective vaccine, then fine – but, no, we gluttonously ate the spending in the most upside-down social programs one can imagine (like, a $600/week unemployment bonus, which pays people more to not work than to work).
Trump wanted a great China trade deal, FoxConn in WI, end war Afghan, build a wall paid by Mex, the greatest cheapeest healthcare, infra spending and end H1B on Day 1..of course he came though with none of it. It hurts to see Biden pulling this stuff off bc he is capable and knows how it gets done, unlike the mad twitter idiot. With the greatest economy ever under Biden, the small brain and goat turds have nothing left but to do but cry in their red hat.
we’ve also degraded our citizens for 20 years now (shoes off at the airport, can’t bring liquids through security, etc) and increasing evidence shows that many “plots” foiled by our security forces were entrapment of idiots who wouldn’t have done anything without being prodded by undercovers.
First thing on my list tonight… airport security. Tired of this sh it. There’s too much of it; there’s too much security at the airport. I’m tired of some guy with a double digit IQ and a triple digit income rooting around inside of my bag for no reason and never finding anything! Haven’t found anything yet! Haven’t found one bomb in one bag! And don’t tell me “well, the terrorists know their bags are gonna be searched so now they’re leaving their bombs at home.” There are no bombs. The whole thing is f*cking pointless! And it’s completely without logic! There’s no logic at all! They’ll take away a gun, but let you keep a knife! Well what the f*ck is that? In fact, there’s a whole list of lethal objects they will allow you to take on board. Theoretically, you could take… a knife, an ice pick, a hatchet, a straight razor, a pair of scissors, a chainsaw, 6 knitting needles, and a broken whiskey bottle, and the only thing they’re gonna say to you is “that bag has to fit all the way under the seat in front of you.”
The real danger at the airport.
https://youtu.be/gQki74lhG2w?t=81
I am quite certain that Dumpy’s ninth Secretary of Defense would have figured Afghan withdrawal out..snicker. Strike that, I am wrong. Let’s be honest..10th SoD by now.
Crushed,
Bin Laden’s plan all along was to try to bankrupt us. Only time will tell if he was successful. I remember clearly reading this transcript at the time of its release and agreeing with its premise.
Here is the impressionable transcript from a November 2004 Bin Laden statement.
The Arabic-language network Al-Jazeera released a full transcript Monday of the most recent videotape from Osama bin Laden in which the head of al Qaeda said his group’s goal is to force America into bankruptcy.
Al-Jazeera aired portions of the videotape Friday but released the full transcript of the entire tape on its Web site Monday.
“We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah,” bin Laden said in the transcript.
He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, “using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers.”
“We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat,” bin Laden said.
He also said al Qaeda has found it “easy for us to provoke and bait this administration.”
“All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations,” bin Laden said.
There was nothing to gain after Tora Bora, Bin Laden fled to Pakistan. Everyone knew he fled yet we persisted to push on. That is on Bush and Tony Blair. Same with Iraq invasion in 2003. But Bush was out in 2008. Biden and Obama did not follow through with their promise to end the war in 2014. Here we are seven years later STILL F*UC*KI*NG THERE….and that is only because they did not want another failure like the collapse of Iraq into the ISIS state, which is on them too.
I was against both invasions, nation building in places like that never has worked. We should have listened to the Russians and stayed the fu*c*k out of the nation building game.
Juice.
I could not agree more. Remember. People with little to live for tend to fight the bravest. Which is what worries me about China.
Man, was that a perfect quote:
Oct 2020
Trump’s Afghanistan withdrawal ‘by Christmas’ announcement takes US officials by surprise
“I think the lesson we all should have learned after four years is the president’s conception of his powers doesn’t go anywhere beyond his enjoyment of having an expanded Twitter presence,” he said. “We’ve become so inured to these kind of kneejerk attempts to win the news cycle that nobody will be talking about this 48 hours from now.”
“Bin Laden’s plan all along was to try to bankrupt us.”
Bin Laden knew how important it is to have heroes in America, and how most Americans would take the bait easily in order to be patriotic.
“People with little to live for tend to fight the bravest.”
Trust me, I know that feeling.
Juice 150,
All true.
But most Americans have a hard on for war, killing, winning, taking things over, being in control, letting everyone know they are boss. Movie after movie like this.
Why would you think we wouldn’t do this?
The Arabic-language network Al-Jazeera released a full transcript Monday of the most recent videotape from Osama bin Laden in which the head of al Qaeda said his group’s goal is to force America into bankruptcy.
Like p1ssing in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, expecting it to rise.
Phoenix,
Exactly. The worst symbolism of all – the right’s obsession with a flag symbol, along with video game like Marine ads pandering to the most vulnerable and simple minded young boys. Mix that with corp right’s profiteering off military industrial complex and you have recipe for never ending wars. Once it starts, hero-ship can’t be questioned (the most understandable as families feel pain). It is sad state.
“So the guy sitting at the middle of the Kabul palace photo op, he’s the one that Trump released?”
Yup, the scenes we see on our TVs and the ones we don’t (at least three people fell off a departing US military plane they were clinging to and died) all belong to…..DJT. JFC.
So, the Oblammy/O’Biden administration gave us the ISIS spread and the OBiden administration gave us the re-birth of the Taliban. Let me go to CNN and MSNBC and see how they’re deflecting this current event aside from the domestic disasters they’re trying to sweep under the rug as well.
Best way to describe Americans:
Like packs of wild nomad dogs, taking what they can get for themselves in their own little groups, but never part of a team mentality, even within their packs they will attack and destroy their own.
But then a cat walks by. And like a war, its the one thing they all agree on that they prefer to kill. So for a very short time, they attack and attack, all proud of themselves.
Then just go back to what they were doing before the cat walked by.
War is the only thing that can unite an American.
Americans would vote for Bin Laden, Pol Pot, or Kim Jong Un if he would give them a tax break.
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/973604904/trumps-deal-to-end-war-in-afghanistan-leaves-biden-with-a-terrible-situation
“Check the date on this. Then read this. Then ignore this and come back on here and parrot the narrative.”
You forgot the most important “check”, the unbiased source…..
“One of Donald Trump’s campaign promises was to end the war in Afghanistan…..President Biden, having inherited the Trump deal, faces some tough choices…”
Puh-lease, you are behaving worse than those you accuse….
So Biden can shut down five separate Trump actions the day of his Inauguration and last week tell the SCOTUS to go fcuk themselves but this horror show of a retreat is not his because he was bound by Trump’s agreement?
Lololololol.
Your mental gymnastics are gold medal worthy.
We can argue about the dehumanizing or potentially unconstitutional aspects of a “stop and frisk” policy. However, putting that discussion aside. ……. It fcuking works.
Very Well in fact!
Phoenix says:
August 16, 2021 at 1:28 pm
First thing on my list tonight… airport security. Tired of this sh it. There’s too much of it; there’s too much security at the airport. I’m tired of some guy with a double digit IQ and a triple digit income rooting around inside of my bag for no reason and never finding anything! Haven’t found anything yet! Haven’t found one bomb in one bag! And don’t tell me “well, the terrorists know their bags are gonna be searched so now they’re leaving their bombs at home.
Completely reasonable rebuttal. In fact, it is rather a clear objective conclusion.
And to be clear, I don’t really care one way or the other.
leftwing says:
August 16, 2021 at 2:39 pm
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/973604904/trumps-deal-to-end-war-in-afghanistan-leaves-biden-with-a-terrible-situation
“Check the date on this. Then read this. Then ignore this and come back on here and parrot the narrative.”
You forgot the most important “check”, the unbiased source…..
“One of Donald Trump’s campaign promises was to end the war in Afghanistan…..President Biden, having inherited the Trump deal, faces some tough choices…”
Puh-lease, you are behaving worse than those you accuse….
So Biden can shut down five separate Trump actions the day of his Inauguration and last week tell the SCOTUS to go fcuk themselves but this horror show of a retreat is not his because he was bound by Trump’s agreement?
Lololololol.
Your mental gymnastics are gold medal worthy
“pandering to the most vulnerable and simple minded young boys. ”
Let’s just be a bit gender equal here. Plenty of women are the same way like the one who got shot at the Capitol.
I’m all for patriotism when this government is doing right by it’s people. But it is now run completely by corporations who have no real ties to any country at all.
However, its accepted here and so it goes.
“Trump wanted [to]…end war Afghan…It hurts to see Biden pulling this stuff off bc he is capable and knows how it gets done…”
LOLOLOL.
Those images of the most powerful nation on Earth running from a bunch of ragtag bandits, military airlifts out, people falling off planes is “being capable” and “getting things done”?
Oh, sorry, I forgot…..the bar for success to a liberal is pretty low…..although calling the scenes on TV right now ‘capable’ and ‘getting it done’ pretty much lays the bar flat on the floor……
Chi,
And the irony is that Carlin wrote that before 9/11. And what did the terrorists use?
Knives.
This coming from the celebrater of the looney insurrection.
1. Trump promises withdrawal from Afghanistan.
2. Biden fulfills Trump’s promise.
3. Trump faults Biden for fulfilling his promise.
I am the source.
Yeah I know, Trump would have done it differently. Right. He didn’t even invite the Afghani Government to the dais.
LW is right.
Biden could have reversed this, but chose not to.
Biden could have sent more troops to make a safer exit.
But clearly from the video I posted, Biden believed the Afghani forces would be able to hold back the Taliban until the exit was complete.
So you trust them, after you tell them you are going to abandon them, to safeguard your exit?
Methinks that is a dopey strategy, and I didn’t go to West Point.
Don’t underestimate the top speed of a Toyota Tacoma.
Carlin wrote that in 1999. Long before 9/11
https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/comedy/george-carlin-you-are-all-diseased-transcript/
“Yeah I know, Trump would have done it differently. Right. He didn’t even invite the Afghani Government to the dais.”
Interesting how liberals’ eyes glaze over and go dark when the Right speaks about counterfactuals such as the impact of taxes on business investment but, wow, the Left sure can show off the Behavioral Psychology PhDs when it’s their guy…..
So let me understand your logic…Trump owns Biden’s actions because Trump promised that a withdrawal would occur and then left office? LOL.
That’s like me getting a speeding ticket while sitting at my computer because I told my wife as she left the house that the kid was late for hockey…..
Solid logic there on the Left…..
Biden should come out in his nut-hugging jet fighter suit with Mission Accomplished banner. That would be awesome.
Biden was sundowning when he made these decisions.
Give the old guy a break.
Did anyone ask him if he was oriented to person, place and time, the old AAOx3?
“Biden should come out in his nut-hugging jet fighter suit with Mission Accomplished banner. That would be awesome.”
I get the reference but you shouldn’t joke about such things…
I’d make an even money bet that if they dressed him up and put him under that banner he’d acquiesce, smile, and reach into his breast pocket for that all important piece of paper that “tells me what to say” to the assembled press.
Biden, owns this. Like Obama and Carter he is projecting weakness. It has nothing to do with partisanship either, I think foreign leaders would not respond the same to Bill Clinton, either Bush, or Reagan. They see weakness and indecisiveness, there were not going to be consequences for violating their agreement so they acted. Seemingly they were correct in their assessment. Trump would have probably ordered bombings with MOABS again, Biden sits on his hands. Did Biden give them a stern warning with a “red line”?
This exit plan was bad and when the Taliban began to break their agreement a fierce response was required, quick decisive action, neither the Whitehouse nor our “Military Leaders” were prepared or responded quickly and adequately. I personally don’t think any of our leadership other than Obama, Biden, and Carter would have blundered this badly, do we now trust goat fcukers(the Taliban) to keep their word? Instead the Afghan security forces drop their weapons and flee once they realized the US wasn’t going to back them up.
Give it up, Lib. I’m actually embarrassed for you — an otherwise intelligent and engaged guy continually and preposterously attempting to defend the indefensible. Why not just admit that the modern Dem party is incapable of good governance — it’s easier than spending the next three and a half years apologizing for one Biden administration disaster after another. The border disaster, the Afghan disaster, the inflation disaster, the crime disaster — these are nothing compared to the problems the Russians, Chinese and Iranians are going to cause now that they know for certain how thoroughly feckless and incompetent Biden is.
left, the biggest joke is maybe if your side did not always run to flag waving hero worship to garner votes & maybe if military controlled press did not wash away pictures on the murder of hundred of thousands of Iraq/afghan civilians plus deaths of our troops then we would not be in this mess and pictures would not be “shocking”. It should be more shocking on how the hell America got to this place. Use pics to blame Biden..have fun. No one will care in a few days. Cling to it.
SmallGov, the issue in foreign policy and military actions with both Obama and Biden is a reticence to act. Whatever the issue was they were always afraid to escalate, their adversaries seem to be pretty adept and predicting what the response will be. They went the Neville Chamberlain school of “Peace in our time”. Even Clinton was able to quickly strike in Yugoslavia, Obama and Biden would have tried to invite Milosevic to group counseling. It goes beyond politics and party and have everything to do with competence and leadership.
What ever your political bent you cannot deny that Obama and Biden(yes this foreign policy is clearly an extension of what Obama started) are absolutely at the bottom of foreign policy in our nations history perhaps only exceeded by Carter. Yes this is a problem because the Russians, Chinese and Iranians are watching and will declare open season on the USA, they are going to be emboldened and will start to push boundaries. We just better hope Biden doesn’t usher in WW3, he’s exactly the kind of leader who would forfeit the Sudetenland, Austria and through in Poland for good measure.
“left, the biggest joke is maybe if your side did not always run to flag waving hero worship to garner votes…”
Nobel prize winner OBama
Nobel prize winner Gore
Grammy winner Cuomo…..
The Left has always been more enthralled with shiny objects and hero worship…makes sense since their actual policies are bereft of any common sense or benefit.
“It should be more shocking on how the hell America got to this place….”
Ahhh, the traditional L1beral “safe space” of root causes…..
Screw the pooch at the border, eh, let’s ignore the daily crisis and run to El Salvador to examine “root causes” instead…
The strongest military on Earth pounding a shameful retreat from an ‘enemy’ who are so prehistoric that their national sport is playing soccer on horseback with a dead goats head, eh, ignore the ignominy of airlifting our citizens off the tarmac and focus instead on “root causes”.
Want a binky with that blankie?
Sorry JCer..I lost the message. Obama’s military operations hunted down Bin Laden and I also thought Obama was cold-blooded drone killah. Right can’t have it both ways. Dumpy scared no one. He was a laughing stock with zero credibility Imagine sending your ninth Sec of Def to negotiate? You would laugh if a vendor sent ten different reps to negotiate with you, firing each one before last talk.
Granting faux Nobel prize did not kill hundred of thousands of people nor bankrupt this country with trillion in unfunded wars..but let’s hear how it did? The tit-sucking is right’s military industrial complex profiteering and their red, white and blue blankie is a flag that strokes their fragile male egos that they are stronger and more powerful. A bunch of impotent Jack D Rippers who lack critical thinking.
Bystander, hunted down bin laden….that’s very funny. The CIA knew where he was the whole time, second given how it went down I suspect Bin Laden was already dead and they faked the whole raid for political purposes. The timing was very suspicious as was the hasty dumping of the body at sea, they should have strung the b@stard up mussolini.
It doesn’t take a genius to find a critically ill nearly 7ft tall man who needs dialysis, are Americans are really that dense? President drone-strike, yeah when it’s individuals and the US military was calling the shots he had no problems letting them drone suspected terrorists.
Does your vendor have one of the biggest militaries in the world AND seem unstable? The proof is in the pudding, Trump was in office for 4 years no one tried sh*t, he even had that lunatic in North Korea towing the line. Biden has been in for 6 months and the damn wheels are falling off, during the Obama era we saw Ukraine become a failed state, Libya become a failed state, Tunisia become a state sponsor of terrorism, the rise of Isis, the Isis take over of Iraq, Assad and the Russians emboldened in Syria. I’m probably forgetting a bunch of other seminal events of the Obama-Biden foreign policy.
Phenomenal job, Phil.
“N.J. just got more good news about its finances”
https://www.nj.com/politics/2021/08/nj-just-got-more-good-news-about-its-finances.html
Given Bin Laden’s state of health he had to have a state sponsor, no way Pakistan can keep that secret.
What a real hero is.
Edward Daly.
https://avgeekery.com/watch-heroic-world-airlines-pilots-flew-overloaded-727-on-the-last-flight-out-of-da-nang/
Not that I have inspected myself, but I would bet Elizabeth Warren has larger nuts than Joe Biden.
Wow, that is some straight up BS, Jcer. Why did Bush not go after him if this was known for years? Amazing that you could possibly have this deep state Intel..or Q-tel. This is classic example of how right decides to parse the news when a D is in office to make it seem like world was ‘shaking in their boots’ when R in office. You also lack root cause analysis as to the right’s straight up mishandling and lies on Iraq caused the splinter group that you turn around and blame Obama for. It is laughable. Here are some headlines:
November 29, 2019: North Korea tests a Super-large Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS), overseen by North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
Feb 2017: A Russian intelligence ship has been spotted off the coast of Groton, Connecticut, where Naval Submarine Base New London is located, U.S. defense officials said.
U.S. Embassy In Baghdad Hit In Rocket Attack
December 21, 20201
jan 2020 – Al-Shabab attack on US air base, kills 3 Americans and signals resurgence
Sep 2020
US sends troops, armored vehicles to Syria to counter Russia after Trump (thought ISIS was defeated??)
Plenty more, JCER..anything else I can fix here?
This place has lost the ability to think. Sorry. But it is true.
I’m sure Trump’s withdrawal would have been completely different.
“You also lack root cause analysis as to the right’s….”
OMG, he uses my “root causes” sarcasm but he’s serious, lol.
“I’m sure Trump’s withdrawal would have been completely different.”
Yes, the MSM and MSDNC would be running a constant loop of the Saigon airlift morphing into the Kabul helicopters while shrieking like the little bitch liberals they are. And you would see the clips of the bodies falling from the military craft on takeoff.
” one of the biggest militaries ”
Should be able to see fallacy of your thinking here. This is exactly it. You think R or D on finger matters..geez. Let me be clear – my Biden posts are complete jests. I did not want the guy to be candidate. I assign no credit for economy. I simply can’t believe that Dumpy is being held on pedestal and normally intelligent people are trying to defend this guy as your 2024 candidate. Good f-in luck.
“I simply can’t believe that Dumpy is being held on pedestal and normally intelligent people are trying to defend this guy as your 2024 candidate. Good f-in luck.”
For the record I do neither and certainly don’t want him anywhere near 2024.
Best thing that could happen is before the primaries NYAG runs him hard on her charges.
They are BS, it is horrible that state court systems are being used for political revenge, and it debases the justice system, but if it knocks him out of 2024 you go Latitia!
Lib,
It would be like mushroom dik’s “withdrawal” from Stormy – secretly pay Taliban via Shajjan & Assoc, using fake name “Real Mohammed” and other people’s afghani.
Left,
Here is a root cause, maybe one a libertarian could agree with. Tell the Rs to stop starting expensive military conflicts based on pure BS and greed.
I am party agnostic, I believe they both suck.
Easy for me to agree with you, our military is for war (not peacekeeping or nation building) to protect our interests.
One observation is merely a data point, but two can define a trend.
The policy execution at our southern border and now Afghanistan appear to be planned and executed by a similar group of advisors. Biden is there to take the blame, but who are the people behind the scenes? Whoever they are needs to be replaced.
Who are they? They should make themselves known.
At a minimum to take the heat off Biden.
To keep pushing Psaki out there is the mark of a coward.
Who is the responsible party?
Afghanistan is tribal territory. The Taliban would have never taken over this fast if there was any resistance. Aka this takeover was negotiated. Aka selling out their own people for power/money. These people need to rise up and break away from tribal mentality. Tribalism is one step away from chimpanzees.
Wolf packs are even more honorable than human tribalism. F that.
Our military is to enrich and protect special interests.
leftwing says:
August 16, 2021 at 5:33 pm
I am party agnostic, I believe they both suck.
Easy for me to agree with you, our military is for war (not peacekeeping or nation building) to protect our interests.
You got that right Joyce. The deal Trump negotiated was no US deaths for a clean withdrawal. The Afghani government was not part of the negotiations. We never cared about the Afghani people. At best, this was about stopping the former training grounds for Isis. At worst, it was to sell more weaponry to our enemies. The fact a few locals fell off of the landing gear sucks, but was unavoidable. For those not aware, this kind of thing happens frequently in war torn territories.
Again, I applaud Biden for getting the fukc out. You should to. Anything else is politically motivated.
“Again, I applaud Biden for getting the fukc out. You should to. Anything else is politically motivated.”
Straw man argument. Pumpkin level.
No one I have seen here yet is saying we should have stayed in Afghanistan…anyone? I’ll start, hard NO, we should have left 19 years ago.
That is not the question. The issue is sh1tshow execution of the withdrawal unfolding on our TV sets tonight.
“Our military is to enrich and protect special interests.”
My vote for post of the day.
“The fact a few locals fell off of the landing gear sucks, but was unavoidable. For those not aware, this kind of thing happens frequently in war torn territories.”
Kind of similar to 320 immunocompromised kids of 115 million succumbing to an illness?
Sucks, unavoidable at those numbers, and happens?
“Biden is there to take the blame, but who are the people behind the scenes? Whoever they are needs to be replaced.”
Start with this over-credentialed, political inbred…..parent and uncle were US ambassadors….Columbia JD by way of Harvard (social sciences, of course) by way of Dalton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Blinken
Continue here to this Rhodes scholar (Master of Philosophy in international relations whatever the fcuk that is) by way of Yale JD by way of Yale undergrad (poli-sci, of course) whose first paragraph in wiki has not just one but two massive political failures and who shows maybe five years total in the private sector.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Sullivan
I’ve said it here before, no one entity is more dangerous to your well being than an Ivy League poli-sci major working as a senior government official.
My concentration in my Government (poli-sci) major was international relations as well. I’ve lived these self important, self absorbed gnomes whose unerring belief is that they were put on this Earth to frame the context of your existence. Because they knew better.
Bystander, you want to make it about Trump, that is not the point. The things you are mentioning are very small scale events NOT at all similar to the literal destruction of countries. As noted it’s not a republican or democrat issue, we could go back to JFK or LBJ. The issue at hand is Biden like Obama like Jimmy Carter projects weakness and all were soundly outmaneuvered in foreign policy. That’s not to say that Trump wasn’t out maneuvered in foreign policy, Putin definitely schooled Trump more than once. My opinion and hypothesis is if Trump or GWB or Clinton or GWHB or Reagan was in office what we are seeing in Afghanistan would be different, long term it falls to chaos, but the speed with which this happened shows no fear of American reprisal. We are re-living the 1970’s, it matter more than people understand, America needs to project power, it’s vital to our national interest, the fact that the Taliban can spit in the face of the US president sends a very bad message. We saw this movie before with Carter and the Iranian’s, it was not a dissimilar situation.
As for Bin Laden, you are really very slow. Why the fcuk would you eliminate the boogie man you are using to achieve your foreign policy goals. It was obvious those neocons wanted forever war in pretty much every country in the Middle East. If they capture or kill the boogie man the justification for being there becomes reduced. If you think these people care about the lost of American life or the terror attacks you are kidding yourselves, they viewed this as an opportunity to start their forever wars to enrich their benefactors.
I said months ago we voted for Neville Chamberlain, I contend I was right. Hopefully the Chinese are fixing for war.
aren’t, I hope the Chinese do not want war.
“I said months ago we voted for Neville Chamberlain, I contend I was right.”
LOL. Missed it then, good one.
Care to venture on the identity of our Churchill?
I actually think Trump did a nice job in his negotiations. As far as I know, not a single American died in this withdrawal.
I don’t know how one projects strength in a withdrawal from a fourth world country. I would like to be enlightened. Until then, so many of you sound like Monday morning quarterbacks, only the games on Sunday were all cancelled.
Not seeing my strawman either. Trump negotiated this withdrawal. Biden followed through (surprisingly). Not sure what Trump would have done differently besides brag about how this was the greatest withdrawal in the history of withdrawals.
Criticizing Biden’s withdrawal process is not political in my mind. Does Biden get a pass now for every screw up by comparing him to what Trump
Did or did not do? Trump was an ignorant buffoon. Biden a 5o year politician including 8 years as VP. He should have managed the situation better, instead it’s an embarrassing chaotic mess, and it will be Trumps fault.
“I’ve said it here before, no one entity is more dangerous to your well being than an Ivy League poli-sci major working as a senior government official.
My concentration in my Government (poli-sci) major was international relations as well. I’ve lived these self important, self absorbed gnomes whose unerring belief is that they were put on this Earth to frame the context of your existence. Because they knew better.”
This could also be post of the day for me. Not going to decide except to say they both win.
Would have taken some stones, but if they wanted to keep that plane on the ground a few of them could have hopped into the engine intakes.
Might have gotten pretty hairy at that point.
Can’t argue with this logic either.
“As for Bin Laden, you are really very slow. Why the fcuk would you eliminate the boogie man you are using to achieve your foreign policy goals. It was obvious those neocons wanted forever war in pretty much every country in the Middle East. If they capture or kill the boogie man the justification for being there becomes reduced. If you think these people care about the lost of American life or the terror attacks you are kidding yourselves, they viewed this as an opportunity to start their forever wars to enrich their benefactors.
I said months ago we voted for Neville Chamberlain, I contend I was right.”
Some really great posts today.
Bravo
“The proof is in the pudding, Trump was in office for 4 years no one tried sh*t, he even had that lunatic in North Korea towing the line.”
JCer, c’mon now. You can’t now back away from this one. How is US unraveling with Biden? There are always attacks on US with each president. 3 Americans were killed at US base in Africa under Trump yet no news or investigation on safety protocal while Benghazi commanded years of attention/money with a Senate investigation. This is what Rs and Fox News do..make it seem like it only happens under D. It is pathetic.
Blinken looks like the stuttering public defender from My Cousin Vinny.
“Criticizing Biden’s withdrawal process is not political in my mind. Does Biden get a pass now for every screw up by comparing him to what Trump Did or did not do?”
It’s worse than that….Biden gets a pass not because of what Trump did , but what for Trump MAY have done.
smh……
19 years training and equipping the Afghan army. Got overrun in 10 days by guys riding in pickup trucks. How many 10s of thousands of Afghan military were on paper only? Fake names with the leaders pocketing the fake soldiers real pay? How much of the money for rations went into higher ups pockets? The units that actually fought weren’t getting resupplied with food and ammo. How many local leaders were always taliban or taliban sympathizers and were just milking NATO as a cash cow? We could have spent another 20 years and trillion dollars there and the outcome would have been the same as soon as we left.
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.
Eisenhower
Bowe Bergdahl.
Does not fit narrative, must suppress.
https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliban-leader-was-freed-from-guantanamo-in-2014-swap-by-obama/
I don’t find this surprising at all. Trades for spies, terrorists and POWs are pretty regular. Remember when the two Russian spies were caught in Montclair? They were traded for two of ours.
hmb, yes the afghan “Government” was highly corrupt, there was a whole lot of graft. The government didn’t have a whole lot of support, the troops were there because the afghan government could pay them and they had material support from America. With the US pull out many deserted, think about this a corrupt incompetent government who no longer has American support and if you are captured by the Taliban they will torture and kill you for being an enemy combatant. Alternative join the Taliban and give them access to your weapons and knowledge in exchange for a portion of the spoils….. Remember no one over there really believes in democracy or personal liberty all they know are feudal warlords. The USA was just the biggest baddest warlord, when we left the “Democratic” Afghan government no longer was viewed to have any power nor a good source of wealth(no opium, no money).
My opinion is there was a crisis of confidence in the government we installed that basically caused their security forces to largely give up without fighting. Just so everyone is aware we did “fix” the elections there.
Make no mistake once Bin Laden was gone we created a new boogie man Al Bagdadhi and ISIS.
Seriously Biden couldn’t even execute a drawdown of troops, that is pathetic. If the decision was to abandon Afghanistan then fine, but for the country to be overthrown while we are still in the process of exiting is just pathetic. McConnell is right about bombing, Biden has totally not been decisive, when the Taliban started to overthrow other cities there should have been an airstrike, before they even got to Kabul. The best way to slow down the advance to allow us time to get out is to put the Taliban on the defensive.
Again history shows when you show weakness you WILL be exploited. Random small scale attacks against US interests overseas are inevitable and happen almost continuously. Regime change seems to follow Obama and Biden like flies are attracted to sh*t. Even worse the Taliban overruns our puppet government and the Chinese publicly poke fun at it. If the Chinese try to annex the Ryukyu islands how do we think Biden will respond? Or maybe Taiwan? I hope to god it doesn’t come to that.
Nomad State Street won’t be the first financial firm ditching their Manhattan offices, more behind them will be doing it as well.
Well, since getting a vaccine and wearing a mask for everyone is a pipe dream, going to have to live with these inconveniences. Good luck traveling on a plane if you don’t get vaccinated or wear a mask. Don’t cry about your kid having to wear a mask at school if you don’t want to get vaccinated. Grow the f’k up.
“Forget beating Covid-19. Europe is preparing to live with it. Governments are drawing up plans for campaigns of booster shots, mask wearing, frequent testing and limited social-distancing measures to keep the virus in check ahead of the region’s third pandemic winter. Germany said this week that only vaccinated people, those who had recovered from an infection or people with a recent negative Covid-19 test would be able to go to restaurants, hospitals and other indoor venues unless infections fall below a very low level. Masks will remain compulsory in closed spaces and on public transport indefinitely. Countries including France and Italy are also increasingly making vaccination, recent recovery from the disease or a recent negative test a prerequisite for daily activities. Scientists say countries’ plans underscore the reality, and the realization, that Covid-19 won’t vanish as quickly as it appeared, but will instead take its place amid the respiratory ailments that routinely cause sickness and death, such as influenza, Jason Douglas and Eric Sylvers report.”
https://twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1427616281495212037
Execution matters.
Bass says it’s apolitical and started with Trump’s virtue signaling. Biden followed. No argument there.
Biden then doubled down with a hard, close in date before taking any of the operational steps.
Following on who is most concerned about meaningless symbolism….recall Biden’s 70% population vaccination target had a date of July 4, which he set and prominently promoted as “Independence Day” from COVID.
This sh1tshow’s timing was driven by his Sept 11 withdrawal deadline, to symbolically be out before the 20th anniversary.
Stupid symbolisms have real world consequences.
It’s political opportunism here imbecile. There are no masks in Europe for elementary school. They view prior infection equivalent to a vaccine. They “follow the science.”
Here the leftist politicians want to use a never ending health emergency to implement their policy wishlist. They use fear and half truths to advance the agenda.
https://tinyurl.com/yousuckjoeyB
“They use fear and half truths to advance the agenda.”
The coronavirus was “totally under control.”
“Alabama would be unaffected by the storm.”
“Ilhan Omar supports al Qaeda”
“The trade deficit with China used to be $500 billion”
“I did not know about a $130,000 payment to porn performer Stormy Daniels.”
“You know, under President Obama you had separation. I was the one that ended it.”
“Biden would destroy protections for people with pre-existing health conditions”
This one was uttered 500 times. “I was the one who got the Veterans Choice program passed after other presidents tried and failed for years.” Except for Obama in 2014.
My big health care plan was coming in “two weeks.”
“I am the true winner of the 2020 presidential election”
I could go on all day long as no one ever lied to the extent of Trump. He lied nearly every time he opened his piehole.
“They use fear and half truths to advance the agenda.”
The coronavirus was “totally under control.”
“Alabama would be unaffected by the storm.”
“Ilhan Omar supports al Qaeda”
“The trade deficit with China used to be $500 billion”
“I did not know about a $130,000 payment to p0rn performer Stormy Daniels.”
“You know, under President Obama you had separation. I was the one that ended it.”
“Biden would destroy protections for people with pre-existing health conditions”
This one was uttered 500 times. “I was the one who got the Veterans Choice program passed after other presidents tried and failed for years.” Except for Obama in 2014.
My big health care plan was coming in “two weeks.”
“I am the true winner of the 2020 presidential election”
I could go on all day long as no one ever lied to the extent of Trump. He lied nearly every time he opened his piehole.
Covid booster shots after 8 months to be announced.
https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-coronavirus-vaccine-21cd829d358e9b50b16515025dab2008
Looks like I survived Vegas.
Trump probably lied more than other recent presidents but it was a never ending game of gotcha withi to the fake news. Trivial shlt to keep the negative stories coming. It was fodder for them. Dopes couldn’t get enough of it.
On policy matters I don’t think he was any different. They all lie.
There were also never ending hoaxes. So much like the boy who cried wolf, when the fane news starts churning out one bogus story after another it’s hard to take them seriously when cry foul.
The reality is you are still being lied to by the politicians including they current POTUS. He has been telling political lies since at least 1970. He may even go down in the history books as one of longest surviving political liars, especially if re-elected.
All this focus on Trump still. He is long gone now, and really there is no doubt about Trump being a prolific liar, but like all politics as long as it is my politician doing the lying then well so what?
Libturd, Booyah says:
August 17, 2021 at 10:44 am
“I did not know about a $130,000 payment to p0rn performer Stormy Daniels.”
I really worry about Lib’s mental health. Calamity Joe delivers the most significant and embarrassing foreign policy disaster in the last 40-50 years and Lib decides to blubber on about T’s pre-presidential hookup with Stormy. Talk about a disconnect. Lib’s going to end up in the looney bin, completely detached from reality, if he plans to spend the next three and half years defending Biden’s blunders. Oh, and by the way, the Chinese have already taken notice of Biden’s weakness and incompetence — get your excuses ready for Taiwan, Lib…
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202108/1231636.shtml
Also markets are down…..
Talbanistan is going down in the history books as failing during Biden’s presidency. There is no erasing it or blaming anyone else. Will you be shocked after the county further degrades into a massive humanitarian crisis Biden then turns it around by blaming Obama? I read that he wanted VP Harris to make a statement Sunday while he was on vacation, but she is better at avoiding the press than Biden, there was a quote out there “you ain’t pinning this s*h*i* on me”. Not substantiated yet but probably true. Fun times, now go out and buy more stuff the markets are down because you f*uk*ers aren’t buying more junk.
Flying home, got another covid test yesterday. All good.
Survived as well.
That island took a wallop from Irma in ‘17. All recovered?
I read that he wanted VP Harris to make a statement Sunday while he was on vacation, but she is better at avoiding the press than Biden, there was a quote out there “you ain’t pinning this s*h*i* on me”.
Just wait until she becomes president. Lol. Is this the most inept and incompetent regime ever? Holy shit, between the crime surge, runaway inflation, the out of control flow at the southern border, OPEC laughing at slo-joes begging, it’s beyond tragic. Russia, China and Iran are jumping up and down with glee like a kid that just heard the ice cream truck coming down the street. Oh, and I just read Iran is supplying Hezbollah with fuel and arms.
the most significant and embarrassing foreign policy disaster in the last 40-50 years
I think it was more embarrassing that we started and stayed in these Middle East wars for up to 20 years.
Not even close
Fun times, now go out and buy more stuff the markets are down because you f*uk*ers aren’t buying more junk.
The collapse is coming. Be patient.
That’s when you will see the shootings start.
All of this middle east stuff has me watching plenty of these Frontline episodes about Saudi Arabia, Iran, and how America meddles in everyone’s business around the world.
This country has its finger up more azzes than a proctologist on coke.
Here’s my complete waste of time for the day.
https://tinyurl.com/cowinkydink
“Iran is supplying Hezbollah with fuel and arms.”
Alert Mossad!
Lib As I have said , Trump was a one shot moron with no political experience, and not much of a businessman either. Joe 50 years in DC, and 8 as VP, and yet the focus is on Trump. I just don’t get it. And we will probably have Harris running in 2024, she had minimal support when running for Pressure in 2020, yet she will probably be elected. Trump can be blamed for a lot, but he was a flash in the pan. Look at what the real politicians with all the years in DC are doing. It’s just as scary if not more so then Trump.
Officials are coalescing around the view that people will need the extra shots eight months after being fully vaccinated. The nation could start administering boosters of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines as early as mid-September.
Karen is going to have a meltdown.
“And we will probably have Harris running in 2024, she had minimal support when running for Pressure in 2020, yet she will probably be elected.”
This country has bigger issues to address than the sand people non-sense. How about seniors getting f&cked by major rent/COL jumps because Fed won’t stop pumping the gullet of every business. I guess 80 years old should be in stocks. That seems answer from Oz Powell and Neel Tarp-shari. This is getting out of hand. We need business competing, not sitting fat on cash then not giving a rat’s ass about passing costs downstream…nor hiring a f-ing soul.
3b, I know. Trust me.
And yes, the withdrawal had terrible optics, but I’m still super happy (and surprised) it was done. Can’t remember the last time we withdrew from anywhere.
As for Trump? It’s hard to put such a moron into the past. Though not in power any longer, he destroyed any chance for there to be an effective system of checks and balances anytime soon. As you know, I’m not a fan of the establishment Dems. Biden was the most established of all of the 20 candidates from the primary. But I am really surprised by his actions so far. He has hardly mentioned his predecessor. He has not gone too progressive. As a matter of fact, he hasn’t done much of anything, which is how I prefer my presidents. The few things he has done, I am generally happy with. Restoring the public exchanges for ACA, some immigration reform, getting out of Afghanistan, etc. Even his infrastructure bill was relatively cheap and not filled with pork. He’s hardly been the progressive the right continues to try to make him out to be. As he ages further, I would expect less and less change from him. A quiet president, like a quiet FED, is ideal. And hardly a peep on the gender crap.
My biggest fear is the upcoming depression/recession. At some point, the debt matters. At some point, we are going to have to pay for the pandemic. So far, it’s hardly cost anyone sh1t. Most have benefited from it. I wouldn’t mind if the other team took the presidency, but not this xenophobic, bullying, populist style of leadership. I won’t go further than that. Hopefully, the pain is short and quick. Though, I doubt it will be.
The recall in Cali will be fun to watch. It certainly helped out my employer and my team.
I really doubt Harris gets the establishment nomination. We all know why she was chosen VP. Quite frankly, she is not rich enough.
Freedom Fighters
https://youtu.be/VHcgnRl2xPM?t=2780
Really, the Global Times?
You know you are in a position of defeat when you have to stoop that low. About the only thing more desperate is creating your own website to post fake news. I won’t hold my breath.
O’Biden: “The buck stops with me!”
A few sentences later….
O’Biden: “It’s Trump’s fault!”
Thanks a lot Phoenix. Now I am going to be stuck watching those Frontline programs the rest of the day.
Build back better. lmao.
You win that one Gary. Silliest slogan ever.
Lib: I would be surprised if the Dems don’t go with the sitting VP. I don’t believe that has ever happened at least in our life times. As for the infrastructure it’s a huge amount of money, and I can only imagine the corruption. Never mind adding to the debt who cares!! So the best we can hope for is Biden does no harm, not much to say on that except it’s pathetic. We really are in a steep decline.
In Afghanistan news, I saw a picture of a Taliban fighter painting white over pictures of women on the windows of a bridal shop. And according to some reports Taliban fighters are rounding up brides for themselves. Afghanistan goes back to the 12 th century for a third time!
Lib,
I think Sept we start to see what the post COVID economy looks like.
Luckily, I have not seen one stupid blue hat with that slogan unlike the red hat which begs the question “When was America last great?” The dolts fumbled over that answer. Jordan Klepper got some funny answers. Looks like most believed we were greatest before civil rights or even before women had voting rights..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVQvWwHM5kM
Nomad,
I agree. Wall Street needs to get back from vacation. I think a lot of early dips get bought for the time being. Still lots of pant up demand and lots of cash saved during Covid. My plan is still intact. So far, I moved about 3% of my equities (not counting the 401K) into AGG. This number will grow each month until I’m closer to 50/50 by the end of the year.
3b I feel really bad for the children and young adults who want to be secular in Afganistan who will now be forced into Sharia law, something they have no experience with. It’s back to child brides, no education, and the destruction of all things of cultural significance not related to Islam.
Jcer: I do too it’s such a shame. They should be roundly condemned around the world, at least it would be something.
We are all in agreement. But we can’t be policemen to the world, especially when our interests are not at risk.
Harris is definitely a political animal. LOL if she did that “you’re not putting that sh1t on me” quote regarding Afghanistan. She did the same thing with the border, being appointed point person and then staying as far away as possible. LOL. Maybe she could survive in the private sector, that’s basically the job description of some middle manager.
COVID boosters…no time to research but IIRC early discussion was around mixing shots from different manufacturers, perhaps intentionally to induce better immunity. From the news in the background it sounds like CDC recommendation may be to stay within one manufacturer’s lane….if so, is that a tell for what JCer/Juice were saying, that there is material difference between the two regarding Delta? If there is, would make sense to keep the two groups separate….
Jumped on the short ARKK train today…..prints anywhere beneath 115, really prints beginning at 110 down to 100. Also, Lib, moved out of some of my cash equivalent shares to actual cash. Figured get liquid should some opportunities present over the next couple weeks.
Libturd says:
August 17, 2021 at 3:59 pm
“But we can’t be policemen to the world…”
Another false choice that only a lazy and incompetent Dem administration would lead you to believe had to be made — either accept the ugly and embarrassing scenes of the past week (and the ensuing geopolitical fallout), or agree to be policemen of the world.
There were lots of other options and a strong and engaged leader would’ve known that. You barely heard anything about Afghanistan during the previous admin; we likely could’ve kept a relatively small force in place and at least ensured it didn’t become a terrorist haven again and/or that China didn’t move in and benefit from the work that we did to improve infrastructure. We also could’ve followed through on T’s conditional withdrawal. But the fact is, the disaster that’s now unfolding didn’t have to happen. It happened because Biden is lazy and incompetent — period!
Lib: No we can’t be the policemen for the world, but it would be nice if maybe Europe for a change took the lead and actually did something.
Lmao…handed a UPS store employee an address. Didn’t think to check it because it should not be difficult to copy it. The idiot put the wrong address. The individual I was sending it to claims it “says delivered on tracking,” but package not there. Just do your f’ing job, how difficult is it to look at a piece of paper and type the correct address. Unbelievable.
Of course the house the package was sent to is claiming “they did not receive a package.” America!! Bring on the robots…im sick of the incompetence out there with basic tasks.
“But I am really surprised by [Biden’s] actions so far. He has hardly mentioned his predecessor. He has not gone too progressive. As a matter of fact, he hasn’t done much of anything, which is how I prefer my presidents.”
Don’t give him too much credit.
Nothing is coming from him because his mind is a baked grapefruit right now.
It’s like dealing with a restaurant that can’t take a simple order. Ask for One burger, and you get a ckn sandwich. Then people wonder why some people can’t survive without govt assistance or mommy/daddy. You suck at life.
Lib Biden’s press conference where he took no questions was absolutely awful!! His defense secretary Lloyd Austen reportedly pleaded with him against a hasty withdrawal. It’s shameful.
His esteemed joint chiefs of staff milley is too busy reading up on critical race theory to be involved in trivial matters such as Afghanistan.
He’s more interested in understanding the psychology of white rage and how to create a more inclusive fighting force.
“…handed a UPS store employee an address. Didn’t think to check it because it should not be difficult to copy it. The idiot put the wrong address…Just do your f’ing job, how difficult is it to look at a piece of paper and type the correct address.”
In the corporate world you learn in your first job to check everything twice, especially when critical to the task.
Sounds like your job was to simply get something out overnight. How difficult is that? Yet you failed.
Yea, it’s my fault for thinking this man could do his job. I def messed that up. Next time, just let me get behind the computer and do it myself. That’s the world we live in. I handed the address on a piece of paper, didn’t really think you could mess that up. Should have known better. Lesson learned.
“In the corporate world you learn in your first job to check everything twice, especially when critical to the task.”
Thank God he is not working in medicine.
It’s not about being the “policemen” to the world.
What we need to do is stop meddling with others for special interest groups, corporations, and any other country other than America itself.
3b
We can’t even solve the problems we cause for children right here in America.
If you can’t get the recipe right for your family you shouldn’t be opening a restaurant for others.
Phoenix,
You mean like the butcher that performed surgery on my brother’s broken leg and left it crooked so that he had to have the surgery again? All a bunch of losers out there crying about how they deserve more money, but can’t do their job. That’s a f’ing surgeon and his team that stitched his leg back together knowing they did an incompetent job on a human being.
Save the corporate bs for me, guys. Bunch of sh!t workers out there, and that’s the bottom line. How many lawyers take your guys money with a bs hacked job you could have done better on your own?
GP,
Well,
Can’t argue with you there….
Phoenix: It would be nice if the world could come together and somehow prevent the horror show of Taliban rule, but it ain’t happening.
All I know is white s.upremacy is the biggest terr0ristic threat to America.
Ok, I’ve never ordered a burger and gotten a chicken sandwich.
BRT,
You haven’t had takeout lately? Lucky if your food is there, never mind the correct items.
I think it’s too soon, but my gut tells me you are correct on ARKK. All the dumb money has been chased back into crypto and if the market shows sign of cracking, the fool’s gold is going to do really well until the government chooses not to allow it.
Nice to see the Governor of Texas getting the covid VIP treatment.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/17/politics/texas-governor-greg-abbott-covid-19/index.html
“In the corporate world you learn in your first job to check everything twice, especially when critical to the task.”
Exactly. In my field, one fukcup and the fine the SEC might drop on you can easily be equal to many times your salary. I am a fair boss. You get two strikes by me before you are out. If the CEO calls me, you might as well pack your bags. This is the aspect of the private sector that Pumps could never understand. We are paid a lot extra for our accuracy and efficiency. I always tell my teammates, “You better save some of that scratch, for you never know when you will have a bad day!”
Goat/SGC – The only people in the federal government who have even mentioned critical race theory were solidly behind the insurrection of morons. Prove me wrong.
Do as I say, not as I do. Masks don’t work (if you are too stupid not to wear them).
Perhaps I should link to that video I made again so some of the right wingers here can learn something.
“I think it’s too soon, but my gut tells me you are correct on ARKK.”
I missed two very brief runs to 125 or higher in the last six weeks….I need better alerts, really wanted in at those levels.
Regardless, the current view on Fed/rates and some sectors I’ve diligenced recently has me not liking her holdings much…TDOC is a pig, ROKU eh, etc.
Not a large position, yet, and highly leveraged (options). If it does nothing else but function in place of some QQQ shorts I had on as hedges and closed today it’s fine. Looking for more though, a nice run down to 100….
Nashville radio talk show host Phil Valentine is also getting the VIP treatment…
Lib,
Inner city teaching is tough. Think what you want. At my job, if you can’t manage or relate to your students, those inner city kids will eat you alive and spit you out for breakfast.
Cathie is so nice. I’ll interpret “Burry doesn’t know shit, he was lucky once in his career.”
https://twitter.com/gerberkawasaki/status/1427658119522361347?s=21
If you think you can just sit in a classroom of inner city kids and get away with doing nothing, you don’t understand teaching. AP students are the only students that don’t need to be managed. Just guidance.
Most Poor inner city students think school is a prison. They don’t care. The one’s that actually care, do make it out, rather easily.
“Cathie is so nice. I’ll interpret “Burry doesn’t know shit, he was lucky once in his career.””
LOL, lucky once exactly describes Wood.
Maybe arkk is a good short term short, but you have to be out of your mind to bet against disruptive tech. Haven’t people learned their lesson with musk and tesla? Now the queen of analyzing disruptive tech trends that most don’t even understand? No way….suicide mission. Don’t apply traditional evaluation tools on a company you don’t understand. People did it with amazon for how long? Yea, that online bookstore is masking a hungry growth beast that is willing to forgo profits for no matter how long it takes to rule.
She has a better understanding of the tomorrow economy than you or I ever will. Good luck!
How much you lose shorting tesla? Don’t do it again. Learn your lesson, adjust, and move on.
leftwing says:
August 17, 2021 at 6:56 pm
“Cathie is so nice. I’ll interpret “Burry doesn’t know shit, he was lucky once in his career.””
LOL, lucky once exactly describes Wood.
Pump
Yea, it’s my fault for thinking this man could do his job.
Yes it is your fault, if you paid him and did not check the address it all falls on you. I hire many different people to do different jobs , and I ALWAYS check to see if was done correctly before I pay anybody. Typical union teacher, blame somebody else for you fckups.
LIB ,
Everything in Afghanistan falls on Joe’s shoulders , Trump would have obliterated the Taliban. Yet Joe canceled the oil pipeline , and opened up the wall ( crazy as this sounds) but decided to live up to the agreement Trump made ( small note here I did not vote for Trump the first time).
PS, I just made $11,000 on Bitcoin in the last three months, secret buy low sell high. I bought gbtc in mid 20s.
Jim,
I never send out packages. He did not offer the box back to check. He took it, put a label on, and told me it would get there by next day. He sucks at his job, stop blaming me. I handed him a piece of paper with an address on it. Why should i have to double check? Why is that my job? I paid 11 dollars for what? So this guy could put the wrong address because he was too lazy to type it out and hit the wrong address.
And wtf does this have to do with my job as a teacher. Jesus, you guys are such haters. You absolutely hate teachers. Own it.
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The amount of hate for teachers based on this blog alone makes me thank god it’s a strong union. You guys would eat these teachers alive if the union was not there to protect them.
Pension…you guys would have long ago attacked their pension and then did a greedy based happy dance. Just own the hate.
7:16 ya think !?
Jim take your sorry ass somewhere else shitbag.
This is a Q free zone –
Ex,
You know what’s sick. WSJ article was shared on here where individuals in good jobs were quoted as “doing the bare minimum.” They had two jobs while wfh…getting paid 200k to 600k a year (with WSJ writer checking pay stubs to verify).
Did you hear one individual on this blog rip into these double dippers doing nothing while getting paid big dollars in a private company? I rest my case.
3b,
Encourages WFH while crying about corruption. What do you think happens under a WFH model where the employee has no sense of comapny culture and will not think twice about ripping off said company. Can’t wait for these stories to come out in the coming years. That WSJ was only the first of many. Human nature is a bitch. You better watch over them or you will get robbed blind.
Lmao..people on this blog scolding me to make sure i check on said UPS store worker’s work, and then telling me that WFH workers can be trusted. STFU. Please.
Jim take your sorry ass somewhere else shitbag.
Touch a nerve? You and Pumps sleeping together.
I assume Pumps does not like being trolled , although he does to everybody else.
I troll who needs to be trolled. Understand this simple concept.
Watch this.
BRT,
How is that climate change position working out? What a hill to stand on.
Somehow Pumps you always bring WFH into every discussion. Now it’s corruption and WFH, and your trip to the post office, and yet somehow you drag me into your ramblings, and you get pissed when I claim your meds are out of whack.
3b,
You twist that story, however you want, i know the truth. You are almost always wrong, and deriding me as an idiot for taking the other side.
“Jim take your sorry ass somewhere else shitbag.
This is a Q free zone…”
Indica, indica…get the right strain brother….
The State St, story set you off, best get used to it. But you really should check your meds or get on some quickly. It’s crystal clear you are disturbed.
Mississippi now in the #3 spot for covid death rate.
The Afghan issue has woken Trump up from a deep sleep. He’s in fighting form on Hannity, long-form interview. (“This [the handling of the Afghan pullout] is the biggest embarrassment in American history.”). He keeps hitting the buttons that his base goes wild for.
Seek help 3b. For you and your family.
Great, it’s been colder in Orlando than nj my entire vacation dufus.
“How much you lose shorting tesla? Don’t do it again. Learn your lesson, adjust, and move on.”
LOL, TSLA were the some of the best trades I ever did….there’s a record of them on a financial forum, I’ll go back and check, some were posted here too…I ended up with 6 or 7, lost on only one, and caught each one for a specific reason and rode it.
Thinking about that reminds me I have at least three positions in common with her…having transparency into her basis in all but TSLA I can assure you my two trades off BEAM earned more (I’m out a while back) than she will see in the next five years in that stock…she came into one or two of the SPACs I own, outcome TBD. If I knew what she paid for TSLA I may well beat her on that lol.
I don’t bet against tomorrow’s technology I invest in it. I’m even open to using a professional manager for some, but wouldn’t want her doing it for me.
Rumor is that Abbott had a third booster shot too.
Leftwing,
Put your real savings shorting arkk. That’s how positive i know she is in the realm of positive change. Betting against her is absolutely crazy, but cheers to you.
Btw, if the world leadership disintegrates into nothing, yes, you will be correct.
9:42 “the Gossip” Hybrid or The Dreamers Indica by Lowell. Words. Are not enough.
Nobody is catching Phil Murphy’s crown. Especially since his current state policy is no different than the other states.
9:54 does anyone really think Trump can be brought back.
I find it ridiculous but would never rule anything out.
Newsome up for recall . Next stop? MSNBC ?
Mofo’s hair is worth $20m
I guess the point of showing that Global Times article is that the Chinese Communist Party is using any US failure and weakness in their propaganda campaigns. The CCP is indeed growing more likely every year to try to “reunite” Taiwan. If that happens stocks worldwide would have to plunge, at least till the PPT start pumping more fiat money to inflate stocks yet again. My wife tells me the CCP is triumphantly rolling the tapes of Americans fleeing, while CCP pawns congratulate themselves for being ruled by the faultless Communist Party.