Ivy calling Kool-Aid again

From the Real Deal:

Strong housing demand a mirage, says analyst who called previous crash

Everyone seems to be betting the house on a new home these days. Multibillion-dollar private equity firms. Joe Schmo house-flippers. Even savvy tech firms.

Everyone except Ivy Zelman, that is. The analyst who called the top of the housing market in 2005 is once again waving a red flag. It’s beyond contrarian: She’s pretty much in a category of one.

“The perception that housing is drastically undersupplied and that a strong demographic picture lies ahead is creating a false sense of security,’’ according to a report by Zelman’s firm entitled “Cradle to Grave.’’ “By our math, both single-family and multi-family production are already ahead of normalized demand and estimates of a housing deficit are grossly exaggerated.’’

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238 Responses to Ivy calling Kool-Aid again

  1. Fabius Maximus says:

    Friskies – So where is safe harbor in this upcoming Market Crash. Will we see both Bonds and Stocks hit at the same time?

  2. Fast Eddie says:

    Ba Ba Booyaa!! Skittles!

  3. Ex says:

    Bullish on slave labor!!!

  4. Juice Box says:

    There was no safe harbor for home equity until now.

    Better to stick the loss to someone else. These kind folks will give you cash for you equity. No payments and no interest. All they want is a piece of the gain when you sell. So if the housing market crashes they take the hit.

    https://www.unison.com/how_it_works_homeowner#ho-total-cost-calculator

  5. Libturd says:

    We should only allow illegal immigration through shipping containers. This would totally solve our supply chain issues.

  6. grim says:

    If the CPI/PPI this week come in ugly, I don’t see how the Fed doesn’t raise.

  7. grim says:

    If the lines at Costco gas are any indication of inflation pain, it’s here. Costco at Willowbrook was probably 30 minutes wait, in incredibly frustrating traffic, to save 6-7 cents on regular. Feels like next stop is $4 a gallon (and $300 a cart).

  8. Juice Box says:

    WTI was $37 a barrel this time last year, it’s now $81.77 a 121% increase and it seems will only go up further. Costco here is $3.25 and the BP sells it for $3.29..no line and save several miles driving…

    This place on Hamburg Turnpike in Wayne is $3.17. Very cheap for NJ only cash apparently..

    https://www.gasbuddy.com/station/5251

  9. Juice Box says:

    re: ” Fed doesn’t raise”

    Raise the overnight rate? It’s been two years since it was anywhere near 2% and 13 years since 3% and 14 years since 4%.

    ZIRP forever. Otherwise markets crash.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FEDFUNDS

  10. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Interest rates have been declining persistently for 500 years. Rate increases are aberrations.

    https://econreview.berkeley.edu/the-long-decline-of-global-interest-rates/

  11. BRT says:

    The inflation is painful. Especially now that I’m feeding two kids that eat like adults. I’m back to my grad school diet. I’m keeping our budget fixed. I got my 10 lb bag of rice and dried beans galore. My two meats of choice are chicken thighs and pork shoulder. I haven’t eaten steak at home in 3 months.

  12. grim says:

    Why Americans Are So Grumpy About Their Economic Boom

    The U.S. economy is growing at a pace not seen in decades, with economic forecasters surveyed by Bloomberg expecting real gross domestic product growth of 5.7% this year and 4% in 2022. Eighteen months into the post-pandemic economic recovery, nonfarm payroll employment grew by an impressive 531,000 in October and is up by an average of 655,500 over the past six months. The unemployment rate is down to 4.6%, and wages have been rising briskly. Oh, and the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index gained 37% over the 12 months ending Nov. 3, its best performance ever in the year following the election of a new president.

    Yet Americans’ attitudes about the economy seem to be quite negative. The Gallup Economic Confidence Index was almost as low in October as it was amid the pandemic lockdowns of April 2020, and the University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index is even lower. An October poll by the The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that 65% of respondents thought the U.S. economy was “poor.” Exit polls in Virginia last week rated the economy as the top issue of concern.

  13. Juice Box says:

    Deus ex machina – God’s AI robots will sweep into the markets to save Democracy and Capitalism. They have already floated trial balloons in the media for several years now about the possibility of buying equities if they raise rates. That would be from the Japanese playbook, the BOJ for the last 10 years was buying ETFs and now holds about a 56 trillion Yen of Japanese ETFs. Soft landing soft landing soft landing……no intention to sell. Again we ain’t selling the bonds on the balance sheet and if we buy stocks we won’t sell them either. Imagine if the FED bought Cathy’s ETFs? With her fees alone she would could become a Billionaire quickly.

  14. Juice Box says:

    My son’s soccer team defeated the kids from Jackson soundly yesterday. I treated my them to to Surf Taco for a late lunch. This local chain caters to the younger crowd down the shore. 5 kids tacos, one veggie burrito for me and a bowl for my wife with soft drinks was $60 with tip.

  15. 3b says:

    Grim: Perhaps, they know that no matter how good the economy appears to be something ain’t right. A general unease.

  16. Fast Eddie says:

    Democratic New Jersey Senate President Steve Sweeney says thousands of “recently found” ballots supports his refusal to concede to a Republican challenger who ran a low-budget campaign.

    “The results from Tuesday’s election continue to come in, for instance there were 12,000 ballots recently found in one county,” Sweeney said in an email to the Philadelphia Inquirer on Thursday. “While I am currently trailing in the race, we want to make sure every vote is counted. Our voters deserve that, and we will wait for the final results.”

    The left’s f.uckery knows no limits. They “found” more votes. I cannot stomach them. Democrats use people for power and the meek masses keep convincing themselves that they care.

  17. Bystander says:

    My brother lives in snothole Westport. These people have gained so much wealth that it is puke level. My brother went to a b-day party over weekend was telling me it was a private farm to table event, set-up like a wedding. Two Maseratis seen as I pulled into YMCA yesterday. The upcoming class warfare will be labor and goods where the rich wipe their a$$es with $100 bill. Labor costs and waiting times will go up grossly for working class. Used to pay landscaper $40, well sorry, James Bottomtooth types will pay $125. You want those Christmas fad toys? James types will pay $100 for it so he gets first shipment priority. Your kid can wait until after Christmas to get it for $25. Boiler on the blink? Sorry, we only have one part in stock and someone in Greenwich will pay $2k for it. Good luck.

  18. Fast Eddie says:

    Why is Camilla Parker Bowles holding that handkerchief up to her nose?

  19. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yup…

    It’s unfortunate, but the majority of people don’t even think of investment. They just focus on living and feeding their needs/wants. This is why inequality will continue to grow as investments grow in value far more faster than labor. They have to sacrifice hard in their 20’s and invest. Start that 401k and let it compound starting in your 20’s for over 40 years and you will be rich. My sacrifice of buying a home at a young age instead of splurging on vacations or partying, changed my life. Allowed me to be in position to buy my next house when I was 31. Too bad, most people don’t understand this.

    Bystander says:
    November 8, 2021 at 10:46 am
    My brother lives in snothole Westport. These people have gained so much wealth that it is puke level. My brother went to a b-day party over weekend was telling me it was a private farm to table event, set-up like a wedding. Two Maseratis seen as I pulled into YMCA yesterday. The upcoming class warfare will be labor and goods where the rich wipe their a$$es with $100 bill. Labor costs and waiting times will go up grossly for working class. Used to pay landscaper $40, well sorry, James Bottomtooth types will pay $125. You want those Christmas fad toys? James types will pay $100 for it so he gets first shipment priority. Your kid can wait until after Christmas to get it for $25. Boiler on the blink? Sorry, we only have one part in stock and someone in Greenwich will pay $2k for it. Good luck.

  20. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Something is going to have to give, or inequality will grow to even more absurd levels. Can’t count on people to invest themselves…

  21. Bystander says:

    Nope, dipsh&t..this is about your govt. purposely f-ing over the majority of this country by giving the long term boomer investor class a completely unnatural, distorted, risk free entitlement view of “investing.” The prices will have to clear and people will have to get wiped out…it is off the charts unsustainable but the Fed will carry it along until the Great reset occurs. Nothing you did was smart, just average but majority of this country won’t even do the average simple thing.

  22. 3b says:

    Bystander: You covered it!!

  23. The Great Pumpkin says:

    That’s wild.

    Fast Eddie says:
    November 8, 2021 at 10:32 am
    Democratic New Jersey Senate President Steve Sweeney says thousands of “recently found” ballots supports his refusal to concede to a Republican challenger who ran a low-budget campaign.

    “The results from Tuesday’s election continue to come in, for instance there were 12,000 ballots recently found in one county,” Sweeney said in an email to the Philadelphia Inquirer on Thursday. “While I am currently trailing in the race, we want to make sure every vote is counted. Our voters deserve that, and we will wait for the final results.”

    The left’s f.uckery knows no limits. They “found” more votes. I cannot stomach them. Democrats use people for power and the meek masses keep convincing themselves that they care.

  24. Bystander says:

    I had this argument will my bro. Simply telling people that you should have read the Wall Street journal everyday and learn how to invest then “too bad you missed the boat by not going all in”..it won’t work. You will destroy this country. Jesus, stop being so myopic. Look around at family, neighbors, friends. Guy next door is 61 and out of work since Oct 2020. His wife works at school making squat. They are nice down to earth people. Guy up street is 75 and worked in Sanitation. Women across street raising single daughter, husband left last year and she works admin at nursing home, trying to scrape by. Had a playdate with neighbor yesterday where husband has been out of work 6 months. They bought 1M home down street in May 2020. Wife is doctor so they are ok but still need 2 incomes. Again, look around..none of these people are bitcoin owners, nor should they be. What will they get from all this?

  25. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, but you wipe out retirees with a bust along with the economy. Who is going to help retirees that won’t be able to survive during a massive bust? They have to keep it going, the alternative is hell. Pray the robots come along and change the economy…it’s the only way out of this.

    Bystander says:
    November 8, 2021 at 11:10 am
    Nope, dipsh&t..this is about your govt. purposely f-ing over the majority of this country by giving the long term boomer investor class a completely unnatural, distorted, risk free entitlement view of “investing.” The prices will have to clear and people will have to get wiped out…it is off the charts unsustainable but the Fed will carry it along until the Great reset occurs. Nothing you did was smart, just average but majority of this country won’t even do the average simple thing.

  26. Phoenix says:

    “Yes, but you wipe out retirees with a bust along with the economy. ”

    Not those with pensions like you.

    Now you see why you are different?

  27. Libturd says:

    Any retiree who has not made enough to avoid eating catfood in the last eleven years deserves to eat cat food.

  28. Phoenix says:

    Haha. Now that’s funny.

    “Pray the robots come along and change the economy…it’s the only way out of this.”

    Now Americans need robots to save themselves from absolute doom.

    If this is not rock bottom, its real close, like right before the giant bloody splat.

  29. grim says:

    You should have all won at Roulette, your fault for not playing and winning.

  30. 3b says:

    Bystander: I don’t know how one can keep cheering on rising house prices on side of your mouth, and voice concern about inequality on the other side. The young generations are getting screwed, thank the Fed, for their disastrous monetary policies for that.

  31. Bystander says:

    Thanks, Lib. Exactly. Cash out, move on. You got it all. If you are dumb or greedy boomer then suffer the consequences. The average Gen X has probably 12-15 more years of working and Millennials need a reset to have a future. The older Gen X (mid-50s) will get crushed but no one cares about them anyway.

  32. Phoenix says:

    Lib,
    That could be me. But it will be death before cat food.

    Unlike what you believe, it’s not my fault. I did all the right things, then got brought down by a false accuser, a parasitic defense system, and a rabid court system.

  33. The Great Pumpkin says:

    They get wiped out too in a major bust…it all ends. You lose stability and replace it with pure chaos where nothing is functioning in the economy. Just one domino taking out another till there is nothing left. Then rebuild…

    Just not worth it, better off with the FED trying to stabilize the economy the best that they can and keep it going.

    Phoenix says:
    November 8, 2021 at 11:38 am
    “Yes, but you wipe out retirees with a bust along with the economy. ”

    Not those with pensions like you.

    Now you see why you are different?

  34. Phoenix says:

    3b,
    Most boomers don’t care about the youth. A comment posted by one older person I know personally on another site.

    “WTF is wrong with all those who choose not to pass these bills and don’t worry about the cost. You will be dead before the payments are due.”

    Well, maybe he will be dead by my kid won’t.

  35. Phoenix says:

    No pumps,
    Your pension doesn’t get wiped out.

  36. leftwing says:

    Why you guys even try to reason with him given what he types is beypnd me. go have an intellectual debate with your cat, more fulfilling.

    “If the CPI/PPI this week come in ugly, I don’t see how the Fed doesn’t raise.”

    Ehhhhh…needs re-appointment first. Plus he’s under no pressure, latest polling shows market anticipating first bump in June. He’s got time.

  37. 3b says:

    Phoenix: I agree there are exceptions like myself, but for the most part self- absorbed . Self- important and selfish is a good description for many of the boomers.

  38. 3b says:

    We absolutely need a reset and restructuring.

  39. SmallGovConservative says:

    Yet another sign that I’m officially old — Sirius moves my 60’s music station from channel 6 to channel 73, relegated to the high numbers with Sinatra, Elvis and the doo-wop 50’s. As clear a sign as any of the fading cultural significance of us boomers — c’est la vie.

    And just to prove that I don’t disapprove of everything that SlowJoe does, anything that offends the royal stiffs Charles and Camilla is OK with me…

    Joe Biden ‘breaks wind’ during COP26 chat with Camilla – https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity/joe-biden-breaks-wind-during-25403693

  40. Libturd says:

    “We absolutely need a reset and restructuring.”

    Yes. Not only does the economy get replaced by a stronger structure going forward. But, the sooner it’s done, the less painful it will be.

  41. BRT says:

    Yes. Not only does the economy get replaced by a stronger structure going forward. But, the sooner it’s done, the less painful it will be.

    Yes, and sooner would have been 13 years ago if we were being diligent. Bernanke & Paulson screwed that one up.

  42. 3b says:

    Lib/BRT: Agreed.

  43. Libturd says:

    If you recall, and the same message will be repeated again. If we let these two large to fail banks fail, it will be the end of society as we know it. Which is complete and utter bullsh1t to the masses who have no clue how things work.

    Will it be ugly and painful, yes! Will what rises up in it’s place be infinitely better? Absolutely.

    When I think about how much town revenue goes to Wall Street coffers in the name of debt service, I tremble.

    A town should have insurance. Not debt.

  44. 3b says:

    Small: If Camilla had any class and manners she would have said nothing.

  45. Libturd says:

    Fartgate is probably bullsh1t. And if it’s not, who cares? I mean, it’s kind of funny. But hardly a political point. And the air biscuit Rudy floated was only newsworthy due to it’s shockingly loud power.

  46. 3b says:

    Lib: It certainly is not political and you are right who cares. It does fit the narrative that Joe is an old man and not very Presidential and certainly neither was Trump. If it did happen Camilla should have had some class and said nothing. I am sure the old Girl passes wind herself.

  47. BRT says:

    When I sat around a table of engineers in 2008, they asked everyone’s opinion on the bailout. They said, basically “I’m the only one against it”. They followed up the next 7 years complaining about wall st. completely ignoring the fact that they and everyone else were hoodwinked into making them 10 times bigger and worse.

  48. Libturd says:

    All Wall Street knows is debt creation. Debt creation is the devil (well if you believe in that kind of stuff.

  49. Libturd says:

    Forget this “)”.

  50. Hold my beer says:

    Juice

    I took my oldest kid to Waffle House Saturday. 2 hash brown bowls and 2 sweet teas was $22 plus tip.

  51. 3b says:

    BRT: The banks should have been broken up, Glass Steagall restored. Eliminated the implied Freddie/ Fannie govt guarantee, and some perp walks.

  52. Ex says:

    Just remember that everyone likes the smell
    of their own brand!

  53. Ex says:

    I think it was Charles that rhapsodized poetically about Camilla’s queefs.
    He fancied being her tampon at one point in his tomes to his lady love.
    A double-bagger to be sure that one!

  54. 3b says:

    Ex: I remember that tampon comment. Strange dude that Charles ; comes with the territory.

  55. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Imagine thinking an etf that’s up 500% in five years and consolidated for a year is a good short opportunity. Go long ark funds.

  56. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m surprised you guys don’t buy bitcoin. You guys have a lot in common with the Bitcoin boys. Bitcoin boys have absolutely no faith in fiat.

  57. Ex says:

    I try to imagine how I would act if I was born to royalty. Eccentric is the word for the weird rich folks.

  58. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Germany’s Economy, Once Europe’s Engine, Is Holding It Back
    Export-oriented businesses fare poorly in post-pandemic world of broken supply chains and rising energy prices; calls for a reboot

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/germany-economy-lagging-behind-europe-supply-chain-11636383954?mod=hp_lead_pos5

  59. Fast Eddie says:

    I try to imagine how I would act if I was born to royalty. Eccentric is the word for the weird rich folks.

    I have this really old, oversized winter coat with deep pockets. I would fill the pockets with some old silver coins like Walking Liberty’s, Standing Liberty’s and Barber Quarters, some Mercury dimes and a wad of 1935/1957 silver certificates. I’d also grow my beard and moustache to unruly status and hang around a coffee house with lots of books around… stroll around thereabouts. I’d smoke a pipe in an old leather chair among a mahogany walled-type library or facsimile, too.

  60. crushednjmillenial says:

    Meanwhile, at the Poland-Belarus border . . .

    https://twitter.com/MON_GOV_PL/status/1457709857566564354

  61. 3b says:

    Crushed: Are they trying to get in or out?

  62. grim says:

    Belarus is manufacturing a border crisis by actively soliciting, encouraging, supporting and transporting migrants to traverse Belarus through to try to enter Poland.

    Belarus won’t let them stay in Belarus, obviously, but bus them through to the border and leave them there. It’s rumored that they’ve been flying refugees in from the middle east, clothing and supporting them, and pushing them to cross the border into Poland/EU.

  63. 3b says:

    Grim: Retaliation for sanctions by the EU. Polish government having difficulties with EU over primacy of EU law.

  64. crushednjmillenial says:

    Lukashenko says pay me like Erdogan.

    3B . . . Belarus is luring migrants interested in going to EU. I suppose there is some monetary profit from the migrants flowing into the Belarus economy or, at least and more importantly, to the pockets of regime allies. Then, Belarus army moves the migrants toward the EU border. Poland either lets the migrants pass without paperwork, processes refugee applications or turns the migrants back. Any of the three causes political problems for the EU, depending on which voting and activist bloc you look at.

    Turkey got paid to stop migrants. Maybe Belarus will too. Or, maybe this is an asymettrically political fault line that Lukashenko, as directed or condoned by Puting can keep pressing against the EU.

    https://www.npr.org/2021/10/12/1045345417/poland-belarus-lukashenko-eu-migrants-asylum

  65. grim says:

    Putin trying to exert influence through Lukashenko and Belarus. Early on Belarus denied assisting the migrants to the borders … like these folks walked from Yemen.

  66. leftwing says:

    Shoot to kill….southern borders, eastern borders….

    Won’t even take many corpses……funny how a head next to you exploding like a pumpkin and splattering gray matter all over the place disburses crowds and has them re-evaluating what is of import.

  67. 3b says:

    Crushed Putin in the process of quietly annexing Belarus. Poland has to deal with their EU problem or face risk of possible expulsion. Europe does not want more migrants.

  68. 3b says:

    Migrants from Nicaragua heading into Costa Rica after Ortega “wins” a fourth term as dictator; many of these migrants are expected to make their way to the US.

  69. Juice Box says:

    Germany’s DW media says they leasing planes via Belavia the national airline are giving the immigrants tourist visas and flying them in. Belavia is banned from the European Union airspace after the state-backed hijacking of a Ryanair.

    https://www.dw.com/en/the-route-from-iraq-to-belarus-how-are-migrants-getting-to-europe/a-59636629

    Shots are gonna get fired over this one it seems.

  70. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Massive balls. These people are nuts. A lot of her stocks are starting to run this week. Roblox up 31%…coin flying. All those people laughing at cathie wood as she bought the shit out of coin when no one wanted it. She is very very good at what she does.

    “Just found out there is curr $3.7b short $ARKK and they are paying about 4% ann to borrow the shares. So I’m upping my o/u to $1b for Year One.”

    https://twitter.com/max_damore/status/1457842663370133504?s=21

  71. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Blood in the streets was this past year for ark….easy long term buys. Maybe the blood will flow into next year too. You have to build positions when most don’t want to touch said investment. That’s why most people are not good at investing. They buy when times are good, and sell when times are bad. Supposed to do the complete opposite.

  72. Hold my beer says:

    Pumps

    Do you own any PRNT and Why or why not?

  73. leftwing says:

    “[Cathie Wood] is very very good at what she does.”

    Says the man-child who ‘invests’ in penny stocks….and supports his opinion with a tweet from a third year student at a hotel school in Switzerland. For real.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximiliandamore/

    But, hey, c’mon, his ‘source’ interned in some impressive establishments. Who knows what financial knowledge he gleaned in his guest services jobs. LOLOLOLOL.

    At least Pumpy is man enough to admit his financial knowledge is less than a 21 year who was a bellman.

    You’re a bigger fool than he is if you debate him. He’s trolling you. Wake up.

  74. The Great Pumpkin says:

    He tweeted this about COIN September 11th. Kid seems pretty smart.

    Knowledge is knowledge. I don’t care who is saying it, as long as it makes sense.

    “Would you believe me if I told you there’s a company with these financials?

    TTM revenue: $5b
    Revenue growth: >650%
    Price/sales: 10x
    Gross margin: >85%
    NET margin: >50%”

    https://twitter.com/max_damore/status/1436796108697653250?s=21

  75. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I don’t, but I do like it. I just like her main funds better based on upside, and some have exposure to 3d printing.

    Arkg is my fav cathie ETF over next 5 years, but honestly, the fintech might be the winner. No one has a perfect crystal ball, so just hedge by diversifying. Honestly, I think they are all winners. She is really good at what she does despite the hate.

    Hold my beer says:
    November 8, 2021 at 9:10 pm
    Pumps

    Do you own any PRNT and Why or why not?

  76. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And if you buy, play it long. Don’t pay attention to the swings or if you are down. Instead, know what you own. You are betting it will be much higher in 5-10 years. If something bad happens, might have to wait even longer.

  77. Phoenix says:

    Ok Google

    WIRED: Google Staff Squirm as Remote Workers Face Pay Cuts.
    https://www.wired.com/story/google-remote-work-pay-cuts-big-tech

  78. Libturd says:

    When the market crashes. I will be rushing the entrances, while you will be watching your Wood smolder.

  79. Libturd says:

    As for COIN, the day crypto crashes when it is deemed illegal, will be the day you wish you invested in a company backed by assets or at least, intellectual property.

  80. grim says:

    If you haven’t watched the new Tom Hanks movie Fitch yet (Apple TV), give it a go, it’s incredibly well done.

  81. grim says:

    Interesting hypothesis being floated for NJ’s (and the rest of the US) death rates.

    High risk/co-morbid/otherwise sick people being infected in hospitals by their health care providers.

    In fact, some saying that this is specifically the point behind the push for vax mandates in healthcare systems. First to adopt mandates, first to adopt booster mandates, and a broader unwillingness to back down.

    Endemic Covid-19 in our hospitals is going to be a major topic of discussion in the next year. We talk about hospital acquired infections. If you thought MRSA in hospitals was a big problem, things are about to get really interesting. This may require an entire rethink about hospitals. At what point is acquiring covid in a healthcare setting going to be considered malpractice and grounds for a lawsuit (like MRSA is).

  82. leftwing says:

    Lib, with you running for the entrances. Don’t need a crash, just a run of the mill pullback.

    Funny, in my trading group we are pretty active trading earnings. Most of us have pulled back dramatically the past week…the moves up and down this season are very unusual. The observation was made on the dichotomy of the very itchy trigger in those names while the VIX is riding a 15/16 handle that one would expect to resolve. This related article popped out this morning…

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-markets-are-like-a-duck-calm-above-the-surface-but-furious-churning-below-11636395875?mod=home-page

  83. grim says:

    Last two weeks saw a huge push in 1st dose vaccinations in NJ, roughly 8000 a day. Last time we saw numbers this high was in June, and this is exceeding the increase in vax doses we saw during the delta peak. Friday the 5th saw 10k first doses.

    This is largely mandate driven, and not driven by vax availability for ages 5-11 – I’m saying that because we’re seeing an equivalent/consistent jump in Modern as well. It’s not until Friday the 5th that you see the Pfizer doses start to jump in comparison.

    I’d post numbers, but appears that the dashboard data is again screwed up for the 1st dose counts. We may be just at the cusp of 80% of the population with 1st dose. Factor in “naturally immunized” population, and we’ve got to be far beyond herd immunity here.

  84. Hold my beer says:

    Since mid January 8% of Covid deaths in Texas were fully vaccinated, and from that group half were 75 or older. Only 3% of positive Covid tests in Texas were fully vaccinated.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2021/11/08/texas-coronavirus-deaths-vaccinated/

  85. leftwing says:

    On COIN, it’s worse….yes, it crashes if crypto volume dries up from regulation, but…

    It also gets hammered if crypto becomes mainstream….

    Their crazy profitability is due to their outrageous fee structure…3% and up for many transactions.

    People accept it because they are the most user friendly method to transact crypto…if crypto goes full on mainstream and you can buy it on your TDA phone app you’ll be paying fees for that commensurate with stocks (nothing) or options (0.65/contract).

    Bottom line, the day crypto goes mainstream COIN revenue gets cut by 50%, 70%, or more.

    Very weird investment thesis for a nascent disruptor company…

    It’s successful if the status quo maintains…in the event of actual disruption though, they’re fcuked.

    COIN reports earnings this afternoon AMC

  86. Juice Box says:

    re: Droids

    Yes the droid wars are heating up. Not content with NVIDIA Tesla went down their own road three years ago and designed their own chips and boards. The existing FDS computers are now three years are are mounted behind the glove box, those can do 144 Trillion operations per second and process thousands of video frames per second.

    As a comparison the human brain is estimated to be able to perform a quadrillion operations per second.

    TESLA’s newest AI training platform based on TSMC chips built on 7-nm manufacturing process can do 362 trillion operations per second. They also have the added advantage over everyone else with self driving now with over one million autopilot-enabled cars on the road today. Tesla has a vast data edge over other automakers. Musk predicts his robo-taxi fleet will be ready next year, no lidar all HD camera driven. There are some drawbacks to their custom design..

    For the nerds here.

    The full system FSD is scheduled for some time in 2022, that will likely push as they still have allot of challenges to solve.

    https://semianalysis.com/the-tesla-dojo-chip-is-impressive-but-there-are-some-major-technical-issues/

  87. grim says:

    NJ crossed over the 1.0 Rt threshold for a day or two last week, which strongly points to plateauing.

  88. grim says:

    Also interesting, NJ has started to post Hospital staff cases, which is in my opinion shockingly high. In the last 30 days

    St. Francis Medical Center – 56 Staff Cases
    Salem Medical Center – 33 Staff Cases
    Hackensack Jersey Shore – 31
    Morristown – 29
    Hackensack University – 25
    Inspira Vineland – 22
    Hackensack Ocean – 22

    And so on, in the last 30 days. Approximately 25% of these cases were acquired in the hospital setting.

  89. grim says:

    Surprisingly, schools are faring far better than hospitals in NJ right now.

  90. Libturd says:

    Left. I have not researched the crypto sector much. Until I see people buying groceries with it, I see it as a colossal waste of time for anyone except the miners. Don’t know when, but at some point, someone is going to be left holding a very tiny bag with a whole lot of lost value. As for it’s current performance? I see two reasons for it. First, as I am the least vested in the equities market as I have been since 2008, it’s really the only momentum play worth playing for risk junkies. Second, people like it because they THINK it’s a hedge against the dollar devaluing. But is it? Does it really have any value besides a way for kids to gamble online illegally or for criminals to transact transparently (which these transaction companies are making it less likely to be). Worst of all, I liken crypto investors to poker players. Even after winning millions, poker players tend to go bankrupt as it’s not the money they are after. It’s the action. Most crypto millionaires (not the minors) are unlikely to sell when the day of reckoning finally comes. Worse yet, it would not be insurmountable for crypto to lose 80% of it’s value in one day. And when that happens, who is going to transact in crypto anymore. None of this is researched. This is all my best guesses. I could very well be wrong. I usually am not.

    And you are correct Leftwing. Just the amount of dry powder I have ready to deploy will set me up handsomely even on a 10 to 15% pullback. Hoping we see it in December, and the recent Covid article I posted (with a horrible look for Europe already) may provide the headwind we need to see it occur. Lord knows tax time is going to be very painful too.

    Look at MKS and tell me what you think. My online investment club shifted out of dead INTC into it.

    Chi,

    You still following Ubiquity? We both should have stayed in that one.

  91. Phoenix says:

    “shockingly high?”

    Well, when people like me, who were fully vaccinated and wear masks/ppr all day still get it, I’m not surprised. I think the numbers are low.

  92. JCer says:

    phoenix, you’re surrounded by sick people all day everyday. PPE is imperfect at best as is that vaccine. It does not surprise me in the least that those in a hospital setting who have not been infected before are getting it. Question is how many previously infected are being re-infected?

  93. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Lib,

    Did you watch that documentary on bitcoin I shared last week?

    Understand the mindset of the people creating and believing in bitcoin. You will see the light like I have. This is not going away, it is the future. It’s the ability to send money digitally without the need for a 3rd party to keep it honest. It is also a new technology that most people don’t understand yet. This is the internet in the 90s, when people were like wtf is the internet? What is this @ symbol and what is a website?

    It’s also a competitor to fiat. It’s going to force fiat to compete, these people are sick of their money being devalued. They want a legit store of value. Fiat will always be around, but this offers an alternative to store your value. Maybe it will eventually take over the monetary system. Who knows.

    Bitcoin is still in the early stages of price discovery. Eventually, it will stabilize and will be used as currency. The blockchain technology will only grow, improve, and become a part of our lives.

    Am I correct? I don’t know, but this is what I see.

  94. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s like a religion to these tech/nerds.

  95. Libturd says:

    JCer,

    We all know exposure time is leading cause. Hospitals are screwed, but the vaccines keep you alive. Get your booster. Enough with the politics.

    Thanksgiving and Christmas with our guard completely down and degrading vaccine effectiveness might not be too fun.

  96. Libturd says:

    Pumps, the value of crypto is based on what? The electricity cost and the hardware used to mine it. When I hand you a dollar, WHO is the third party? What are you using to purchase crypto? Fiat currency.

    The only reason crypto is flying is fool’s theory.

    In finance, the greater fool theory suggest that one could sometimes make money from buying overvalued assets, whose price drastically exceeds its intrinsic value, if they could later be sold at an even higher price.

    In this context, one “fool” might pay for an overpriced asset, on the assumption that he can probably sell it to an even “greater fool” and make a profit. This only works as long as there are new “greater fools” willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it has dropped to its fair value.

  97. Bystander says:

    Its a con game with people in awe of the numbers, you dope. They don’t believe in a damn thing and will be pulling a Constanza when it all starts burning down.

  98. Libturd says:

    Left, make that MKSI

  99. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Fear and authoritarianism are the current pandemic. Covid is finished.

    We were supposed to have a “delta” surge when schools reopened. Now the cold weather etc. There is always going to be a “next” thing about to happen as long as politicians came use covid to control people.

  100. Phoenix says:

    Also, is it in a hospital’s best interest to claim it’s employees got Covid while working- use up their sick time vs workers’ comp?

    A quick questionnaire- did you shop at a grocery store- did you stop and get gas-

    You got Covid at the gas station, not at work. Really? yeah, you always make out with the guy pumping gas-they give you a 10 percent discount if you swap spit with him…

  101. Libturd says:

    There is always going to be a “next” thing about to happen as long as you follow science over politics.

    I remember when Covid was a hoax and it would only kill 25,000 tops. You know. Like the common flu.

  102. Libturd says:

    It’s alright goat. You were only off by 4,975,000.

  103. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    True, this spread far more effectively than anything we’ve ever seen. It’s been unprecedented. Suspiciously effective in fact to spread through particles. It rendered masks and hand washing useless.

    In the longer term view, Pre covid kids picked up a virus 3-4 times a year and adults 1-2 times based on recollection. Post covid it’s the same.

    I’m not part giving up personal freedom over a cold virus. If you’re scared get an gym membership and get ripped. It’s the best protection you have against getting sick.

  104. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You guys need to watch the documentary.

    These diehards are not doing it for money. They are doing to improve how money is moved from person to person. They don’t want govt in control of currency. Once you understand this, you will realize these people are not fools. They are super smart and are attacking a problem they believe needs to be addressed.

    Just look when it was created. The idea came about out of the fears of 2008. One dude wanted to change how money works. He is so afraid of govts taking him out, that no one knows who the f/k he is. He has went silent and is gone with the wind.

  105. Libturd says:

    As for schools? Well perhaps the protocols they put in place are actually working? Call it anecdotal, but when the girls soccer team partied in a basement, nine of them got Covid. Yet, put the nine in a classroom with masks and separation and somehow people don’t get sick.

    Keep on getting your science from the My Pillow Guy.

  106. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s based on a mathematical equation. There is a limited supply and eventually it will stabilize. Early adopters will be rewarded monetarily as the price rises as more people buy in to the system.

    You can’t look at this like traditional assets, because it has never been done before. It’s like the early adopters of gold. At one point it was worthless, then price discovery took place, and then it became a pretty stable source of value.

    Libturd says:
    November 9, 2021 at 9:24 am
    Pumps, the value of crypto is based on what? The electricity cost and the hardware used to mine it. When I hand you a dollar, WHO is the third party? What are you using to purchase crypto? Fiat currency.

  107. Juice Box says:

    Pumps ” the ability to send money digitally without the need for a 3rd party”
    Wrong. There can be lots of third parties in a bitcoin transaction. There does not need to be in it’s truest form where you generate your own wallet and run your own bitcoin node, but that is not the case today with all of the gambling going on today. The gambling is done on unregulated exchanges who charge exorbitant fees and feed the miners to validate the transactions in the ledger.

    It’s not money. It never will be. The kids wants to create a digital commodity at the push of a button instead of picking up a shovel and digging one out of the ground and that is fine, but it cannot replace money created by the “authority” that only the rule of law provides.

  108. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The people in the position of do nothing are pretty sad. Don’t use vaccines and don’t follow protocols to help stop the spread. So wtf are they advocating? Wtf is their position? Do nothing?! These people suck. I get it, you want individual rights, but use some common sense instead of making this political.

    It truly is pathetic how people fight against trying to stop the spread of this virus and ending this pandemic. Can’t fix stupid. Now trying to teach people with this kind of mindset, that’s why teaching is impossible at times…you are going up against individuals that already have their mind made up….school is a waste of their time. Losers.

    Libturd says:
    November 9, 2021 at 9:52 am
    As for schools? Well perhaps the protocols they put in place are actually working? Call it anecdotal, but when the girls soccer team partied in a basement, nine of them got Covid. Yet, put the nine in a classroom with masks and separation and somehow people don’t get sick.

    Keep on getting your science from the My Pillow Guy.

  109. Juice Box says:

    It’s been banned now in 25% of the world, and will continue to be banned. There are plenty of other reasons why it won’t work as a currency but by far and wide fraud is #1. Your only way to even try and prevent fraud is the rule of law and the only recourse when the fraud occurs is the rule of law.

  110. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Ventilation and social distancing do work. Diaper face not so much.

    But a lot of people agree and the pushback is growing. It almost unseated king Murphy. In one of the most corrupt states just a year after he spent 4 billion buying union votes.

  111. Juice Box says:

    I do not need a third party for my bitcoin address. Here is a bitcoin address I just created out of thin air. 1NsBBLGBSKRAPsSPjz4WBBXRV5YqXep6TN

    Send me some coin, as no court can undo the transaction and return your commodity to you. If I ever decide to sell it on an Russian exchange for Rubles you will never get it back. You only will have a chance if it is within arms reach of the law. Good luck with that.

  112. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    I don’t know if it will eliminate fiat. Probably not, but it is giving the option to take your worthless fiat (that’s how diehard bitcoin believers look at it) and trade it in for what they deem valuable.

    Will govts give up their fiat willingly, no. Will they have a challenge on their hands? Yes. This is not going away easily. The cat is out of the bag.

  113. JCer says:

    No more mandates. The myocarditis risk in young men is serious, it’s very odd to be hearing about 20 something year old athletes having heart attacks. The CDC and government is gas lighting us, it’s nonsense. Kids under 12 are very difficult to infect, I’ve hear of many instances where the whole (vaccinated)family goes down with covid but the youngest child despite living in a home with infected people, having been fully exposed does not get sick or test positive? Why in god’s name should we expose small children to a vaccine with side effects including permanent heart damage for something that rarely makes them sick? Why should we vaccinate those who had confirmed infections?

    None of it works the vaccine works for 6 months or until a mutation renders it worthless, pull the band aid off, people will need to be infected to end the pandemic full stop. If the democrats didn’t make this political they would have listened to the experts and known that leaky vaccines do not end pandemics, they only extend them and create risk for dangerous strains. These emergency use vaccines(incl Pfizer which was approved under abnormal circumstances) should be used for those at risk of severe COVID not 8 year olds or even 20 year olds, base it on the data(probably people over 30, those with conditions or excessive weight). And for the love of god update the spike to match the latest virus not one from 2 years ago.

  114. Juice Box says:

    And even worse, think of all of the lost bitcoin. 20% of all bitcoins are lost due to lost private keys. Those coins can never be traded, they are gone forever. No court ruling, no amount of screaming or hacking will ever recover those coins. Imagine your bank account locked out FOREVER from you because you forgot your password. Do you think the banking industry would survive if they were locking out customers with unrecoverable passwords? There is no recourse? Your money is gone forever?

  115. JCer says:

    Lib kids in a basement? You know the difference, yes there is the mask but also they keep them distant from one another in school. Kids playing at a party will likely touch each other, be eating and drinking, come in contact with many objects, etc. I’m just going to say it, kids are gross. Then there is also the ventilation of lack thereof in an old home’s basement. It doesn’t surprise me when people get sick at these super spreader events they are having.

  116. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Not going to lie, dropped a tear. Well done.

    grim says:
    November 9, 2021 at 6:03 am
    If you haven’t watched the new Tom Hanks movie Fitch yet (Apple TV), give it a go, it’s incredibly well done.

  117. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    It’s obviously not perfect, but bitcoin is being updated and improved. It’s still at the early stages of adoption, so will be lots kinks along the way.

    Maybe it dissolves into nothing. Who knows, but it seems like it is here to stay.

  118. BRT says:

    JCer, the numbers were always evident and they’ve denied it or suppressed it. That’s why the FDA/CDC panels ruled against it and they were overridden by the political appointees in those agencies. Meanwhile, in Europe, they are banning Moderna left and right for anyone under 30.

    They should be promoting J&J as the non-myocarditis alternative. But that would require them to actually admit that there is a small danger of myocarditis that you should be concerned about.

    They are probably purposefully not updating the spike formulation. They know, less effective vaccines mean more shots. These are the same people that put Vioxx, Bextra, and Opiods in everyone’s body knowing the consequences.

  119. Juice Box says:

    Pumps “worthless fiat”. Lot’s of empty platitudes followed up with the usual “OK Boomer” from the crypto cult. 25% of the world cannot legally trade crypto anymore, those governments decided the way forward is without it.

    I have a gold investment that more than doubled, I hedged against fiat a long time ago. I have housing that is up 20% in a year. I have stocks that are up way way more. That is all based on “worthless fiat” dollars, and a zero percent savings rate forever.

    The very crypto they clamor to trade is valued in dollars. The dollar is the most trusted and most traded currency in the history of the world. Sure I don’t like the money printing going on but some do. You for one seem to love the deficit spending and bonding and borrowing as long as it pads your pension and house value.

    How is this going to end? I will go long dollar survival before I go long crypto as a replacement for the fine faith and credit of the dollar. There is no way the crypto kids will defend their warehouses full of servers with real firepower like the US Military would defend the US and by extension our hegemony the fiat dollar regime we have today that has survived world wars and cold wars too.

    Anyway the government is content to allow the crypto sideshow to go on, and the show will go on until there is finally a curtain call.

  120. Fast Eddie says:

    punkin face,

    I guess your kids are taking tests all morning?

  121. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What are the odds of getting myocarditis with or without the vaccine? Does the vaccine increase odds?

    “What is already known about this topic?

    Viral infections are a common cause of myocarditis. Some studies have indicated an association between COVID-19 and myocarditis.”

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm#:~:text=Some%20studies%20have%20indicated%20an,by%20sex%20and%20age.

  122. Fast Eddie says:

    In a diary of US President Joe Biden’s daughter Ashley, which has now been confirmed as authentic by the New York Times and the FBI, Ashley Biden describes drug abuse and affairs as well as “inappropriate” showers with her father Joe. She also asks herself the question “Have I been abused?” and replies with “I think so.”

    A copy of President Joe Biden’s daughter’s diary has allegedly proven to be real. The FBI searched several apartments as part of an investigation into the alleged theft, media reports.

    We have a senile ped0phile who sh1ts his pants as the president. Wow.

  123. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Fast,

    Yes, they take tests everyday and I do nothing. Will that shut you up?

  124. Libturd says:

    Watching the Crypto argument reminds me of a few articles that I read about four or five years ago. They were comparing and contrasting the old fuddy-duddy effect with the boundless optimism of the millenials and how much they differed in their views of this apparently endless bull market. The biggest fear of the old-timers were that the youngers investors, both retail and institutional, were not around for a bear market and will be ill-prepared for the next one. Of course, the millenials have been raised in an economic environment where they believe the government will not allow a major market drop to occur and if it does, they will bail out the risk takers.

    I wish I saved them, for they were pretty interesting and didn’t really say who is right or who is wrong. But the fuddy-duddies all agreed that the government can’t extend debt to infinity. At some point, the bill must get paid. Even the millenials understood that, but said it would probably not occur in their lifetime.

    Pick a side.

  125. JCer says:

    Pumps I really don’t understand how you have all this time to post during class hours. I don’t have time to post as much as you and largely set my own schedule, if I were in the office I wouldn’t be able to look at this site as much without raising eyebrows. Are you sitting in front of a class using a phone?

  126. Libturd says:

    You’re right Gary,

    He’s senile.

  127. joyce says:

    JCer,
    It is nonsensical to blame one party for needlessly inserting politics into the pandemic response.

  128. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m a supporter of the FED and fiat currency. There is a reason we left the gold standard. It sounds good in theory, but does more harm than good. That’s why I don’t ever want to see this system replaced with a fixed currency. It takes away so many tools when dealing with a bust in the economy. Leaves the economy defenseless when a gear stops working in the economy.

    Everyone is crying about the FED and inflation, but wtf do they want? Society is pretty damn stable and it sure beats dealing with deflation on a daily basis.

    What more do people want? Is your life that bad right now that you want to end the FED? My life has been great since 2008. Been pretty smooth sailing and investments are being rewarded. I feel bad for the people that don’t invest, but you can’t save them all…

    “The very crypto they clamor to trade is valued in dollars. The dollar is the most trusted and most traded currency in the history of the world. Sure I don’t like the money printing going on but some do. You for one seem to love the deficit spending and bonding and borrowing as long as it pads your pension and house value.”

  129. 3b says:

    Pumps: The problem is you think this can go on forever with no consequences. You state yourself you are doing fine, and that’s all that matters in your universe. There are people here who look beyond their own self interest and are concerned for the younger generations.

  130. BRT says:

    There was a pulmonary doctor on a few days ago that stated the cases of myocarditis he sees from the vaccine is far worse than what he’s seen from Covid. You cannot operate on the idea that they are equivalent.

  131. Libturd says:

    Me. For example.

  132. 3b says:

    Fast: Pretty damning stuff if true. This was apparently known a year ago, and was ignored by both sides. His Daughter is a Social Worker and it appears her own life was/is a mess.

  133. Juice Box says:

    Pumps the History teacher…. Nixon took us off the Gold Standard to fund the war, that was the ONLY reason at the time. We now have been at war pretty much ever since. You may not feel the unintended consequences of the perpetual war directly but there are many many people around the world that do. There is a neocon-liberal alliance for war all funded by fiat, you only need to look at the massive appropriations every year in Congress.

  134. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I break my lesson’s into four levels going from low level to higher level thinking from Monday to Wednesday. They work on a level, and then we go over it. While they are working on it, I throw a post up on here if nobody needs help. On Thursday, we work on creating an essay based on what we learned for that week. On Friday, we take an assessment based on what we learned that week.

    Remember, it’s supposed to be student driven. They are supposed to be helping each other instead of asking me while they are working on each level. You guys have been out of a classroom for so long that you have no idea what it is like today. You cannot sit in front of a class and lecture the entire time, you will be asked to change, or lose your job.

    Do I need to justify my job more?

    JCer says:
    November 9, 2021 at 10:42 am
    Pumps I really don’t understand how you have all this time to post during class hours. I don’t have time to post as much as you and largely set my own schedule, if I were in the office I wouldn’t be able to look at this site as much without raising eyebrows. Are you sitting in front of a class using a phone?

  135. JCer says:

    joyce, the dems used it as platform to get rid of Trump and to win a majority in the house and senate. The shots were fired before the Orange dunce even began to deny it’s existence/severity. Both sides have played politics with it but the biggest sins have come from the democrats who have advocated for draconian regulations and control. Fauci actually was key to this he is the one who initially called for calm, Trump’s minions(Navarro) were calling out China and claimed it had the potential to kill millions of Americans.

  136. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    Life is about survival. Why do you assume it should be easy?

    There are a ton young individuals absolutely killing it. Open your eyes. Is everyone doing well? Of course not, the system is capitalistic by nature. Should everyone have it easy and good?

    The system is fine for anyone that is ambitious and tries hard to improve themselves. No one can stop you if you try hard. If you want to cry and makes excuses, you will go nowhere playing the victim in this type of economic system. At the end of the day, life is not fair and it will never be…just do you.

    3b says:
    November 9, 2021 at 10:51 am
    Pumps: The problem is you think this can go on forever with no consequences. You state yourself you are doing fine, and that’s all that matters in your universe. There are people here who look beyond their own self interest and are concerned for the younger generations.

  137. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Why is it so different?

    Dealing with long odds here. So if I don’t take a vaccine, I can still get it correct?

    BRT says:
    November 9, 2021 at 11:06 am
    There was a pulmonary doctor on a few days ago that stated the cases of myocarditis he sees from the vaccine is far worse than what he’s seen from Covid. You cannot operate on the idea that they are equivalent.

  138. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Level 1 (recall)

    Define the following terms:
    Samuel Slater-

    Francis Cabot Lowell-

    “Lowell girls”-

    2. Provide the GIST of the paragraph heading “The Nation’s First Textile Mills.” pg158

    3. Provide the GIST of the paragraph heading “Lowell Transforms the Manufacture of Cloth.” pg 158

    4. Provide the GIST of the paragraph heading “Factories Change Businesses and Workers’ Lives.” Pg 158

    >> Samuel Slater’s textile mill in the 1790s

    >> U.S. textile production led to the growth of industrial cities such as Lowell, Massachusetts, established during the 1820s.

    >> Textile workers—often young women and children—operated large machines that spun thread or cloth. Later, individual tailors and seamstresses used those materials to make finished clothing.

    Level 2 (skills/concept)

    Explain what kind of impact “water-powered” factories would have on towns and cities? (where would cities have to be located and grow around?)

    2. What changes occurred in the United States with the rise of industry in the early 1800s? (summarizing the changes industry brought to people’s lives)

    3. Read the following primary source based on “the Lowell Girls.”

    In her autobiography, Harriet Hanson Robinson, the wife of a newspaper editor, provided an account of her earlier life as female factory worker (from the age of ten in 1834 to 1848) in the textile Mills of Lowell, Massachusetts. Her account explains some of the family dynamics involved, and lets us see the women as active participants in their own lives – for instance in their strike of 1836.

    “The early mill ­girls were of different ages. Some were not over ten years old; a few were in middle life, but the majority were between the ages of sixteen and twenty ­five. The very young girls were called “doffers.” They “doffed,” or took off, the full bobbins from the spinning ­frames, and replaced them with empty ones. These mites worked about fifteen minutes every hour and the rest of the time was their own. When the overseer was kind they were allowed to read, knit, or go outside the mill­yard to play. They were paid two dollars a week. The working hours of all the girls extended from five o’clock in the morning until seven in the evening, with one half­ hour each, for breakfast and dinner. Even the doffers were forced to be on duty nearly fourteen hours a day. This was the greatest hardship in the lives of these children. Several years later a ten­ hour law was passed, but not until long after some of these little doffers were old enough to appear before the legislative committee on the subject, and plead, by their presence, for a reduction of the hours of labor.
    Those of the mill ­girls who had homes generally worked from eight to ten months in the year; the rest of the time was spent with parents or friends. A few taught school during the summer months. Their life in the factory was made pleasant to them. In those days there was no need of advocating the doctrine of the proper relation between employer and employed. Help was too valuable to be ill­ treated….”

    3. Based on the primary source you just read, summarize what the conditions were like for these young girls in the factories.

    4.

    Based on the photograph above and at the end of level 1, why would this job be considered dangerous for the children working there?

    5. Skilled shoemakers like these men cut and prepared leather and other materials for shoe construction. Connect Where in the world are most clothes manufactured today?

    6. Who were the ‘Lowell Girls’?

    A.
    The daughters of Francis Cabot Lowell who took over the family business.
    B.
    Women who moved from large cities to live in Lowell, Massachusetts.
    C.
    Young girls who developed new methods of manufacturing cloth for Francis Cabot Lowell.
    D.
    Women recruited from area farms to work in Francis Cabot Lowell’s factories.

    Level 3 (strategic thinking)

    In your opinion, did the Industrial Revolution have a positive or negative impact on people’s lives? Support your position. You are allowed to say both good and bad, as long as you can defend both sides. (remember, no right or wrong answer, you are only forming a position based on what you learned today.)

    Level 4 (extended thinking)

    Investigate and draw conclusions about how this lesson(what you learned today) impacts the world you live in today. (you are basically thinking about how what you learned today applies to the world you live in)

  139. Juice Box says:

    I fail to see why a federal grand jury is issuing warrants for a missing or stolen diary that was returned. Theft like that is not a federal crime, it would be at best as state crime that the local PD would handle. Seems to me like someone is trying to dig up some far fetched conspiracy again. Did Hillary give some manufactured diary to the media? Who wrote this one was he and MI-6 spy?

    It also has been reported that the tipsters who supposedly found the diary in a room where Ashely Biden stayed were represented by attorneys in their negotiations with the media for money for the diary etc. Did they raid those attorney’s in the middle of the night with helicopters circling above and snipers on the roof?

  140. Libturd says:

    JCer,

    I don’t doubt both sides have politicized Covid. But the control narrative is pretty stupid and quite populist, IMO.

  141. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This is sloppy and missing the charts, pics, and other things….but this is what I am working on with them. I created this all myself. I teach low level students, so I have to try to get them to understand the basic information, and then try to grow with it during the lesson to higher level questioning that requires you to take a position and defend it.

  142. 3b says:

    Pumps: I never said it was easy, you are putting words in my mouth. As for being a capitalist system , you pick and choose which pieces of so called capitalism you like. You would not be so smug were it not for the big second income in your household. You really should get out and talk to the younger people and understand where their thoughts are and how they view the present environment. You may not be a Boomer in age, but you certainly have the mindset that many Boomers have, as in I got mine who cares, and the Fed exists solely to keep my asset values inflated.

  143. 3b says:

    Juice: The shower/ abuse allegations are particularly disturbing. I don’t understand why this has been kept quiet for so long; neither side has said anything on the matter.

  144. Juice Box says:

    Myocarditis was not found in the Pfizer trial of kids 5-11 years old. They lowered the dosage, some feel the sample size in the trial was still too small. They are not going to stop vaccinating kids now. There is no data yet to support it.

    If you feel that the risk is still to high then it’s still your choice to wait months or longer to vaccinate your kids. The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) will show a spike of any adverse reactions and the vaccinations could be stopped.

    FYI older kids in New Jersey are not required to even have the Flu vaccine in school, they age out of the requirement “age out” at 5 years old.

  145. JCer says:

    Pumps school has changed since my day, work was not done in class back in my day which is probably your day as well. The teachers would lecture and have discussions with the class. Assignments were done at home, when the teacher had a class they were talking or going over the previous evening’s assignments. Besides during a tests and even then the teachers had to watch kids like a hawk, I cannot imagine any teacher I had in high school being able to divert even 5 minutes away from the class.

  146. Phoenix says:

    “No one can stop you if you try hard.”

    Another stupid comment from pumps.

  147. Phoenix says:

    3b,
    Nailed it.

  148. Juice Box says:

    3b – For it to be criminal Biden’s daughter would need to start by making a sworn statement to that fact. That is not going to happen. Even Veritas did not run the story as it could not be corroborated or verified in anyway without her doing so.

    Look Biden may be guilty of allot of things like Trump is assumed to be but he is still President. We will have to wait until the next election to get rid of him unless god or Nancy Pelosi want to take him out early.

  149. BRT says:

    On the trial, it’s criminal that they only made it 2000 kids. First off, there are a million parents salivating to jab their kids. You could have easily had more participants. Moreover, the risk of myocarditis for kids was assumed (by the CDC’s own estimates) to be the same risk as the 12-17 year old group. So, if there is a 1 in 6000 chance of myocarditis, there was essentially a 66% chance that no one in their trial showed up with myocarditis. The fix was in.

    Any smart parents will wait a month or two to see if there’s a fallout. There is a possibility that going to 1/3 of the dose eliminated the risk or severely reduced it. Problem is, we were supposed to find this out through well designed trials. Not this BS show that anyone who understands numbers can easily see through.

  150. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Can we agree that the crisis of 2008 or the shutting down of the economy in 2020 would have destroyed our societies like a game of dominoes? The FED did a hell of a job and it’s because we got off the Gold Standard that they could do this.

    Time is the most valuable thing on this planet. Why would you want to live in complete utter misery for two decades (crash will destroy society for at least 2 decades), only to watch it crash again a couple decades later, wasting valuable time in your life on complete misery when you don’t have to. No thanks.

    Just think of the impact on daily lives. Think about the impact on innovation? It would completely hold back innovation for a time as everything is crashing. Again, no thanks. Instead, I thank the FED for providing the most stable economic bloc in my lifetime when it could have all crashed after 2008.

    Juice Box says:
    November 9, 2021 at 11:12 am
    Pumps the History teacher…. Nixon took us off the Gold Standard to fund the war, that was the ONLY reason at the time. We now have been at war pretty much ever since. You may not feel the unintended consequences of the perpetual war directly but there are many many people around the world that do. There is a neocon-liberal alliance for war all funded by fiat, you only need to look at the massive appropriations every year in Congress.

  151. No One says:

    Here’s a video of Pumps in class:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RohFeqsNV1U

  152. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I don’t believe in full unchecked capitalism. You know this.

    The younger generation needs to understand that you have to put in the time, it’s not just given to you. They are complaining over nonsense.

    3b says:
    November 9, 2021 at 11:29 am
    Pumps: I never said it was easy, you are putting words in my mouth. As for being a capitalist system , you pick and choose which pieces of so called capitalism you like. You would not be so smug were it not for the big second income in your household. You really should get out and talk to the younger people and understand where their thoughts are and how they view the present environment. You may not be a Boomer in age, but you certainly have the mindset that many Boomers have, as in I got mine who cares, and the Fed exists solely to keep my asset values inflated.

  153. 3b says:

    Juice: I understand that, but you would think it would have made the rounds in the media; perhaps it did and I missed it, but I don’t think so. Today is the first I am hearing about it. If true it is disgusting, and the name creepy Joe would certainly fit. If it’s not true, then Biden’s daughter is deeply troubled to say the least.

  154. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You have no idea how it is. I wish we could go back to the old way, would make my life much easier. You know how long it takes to create and plan for all this “student centered” lessons? Then the kids barely do their work. It’s horrible to deal with.

    JCer says:
    November 9, 2021 at 11:35 am
    Pumps school has changed since my day, work was not done in class back in my day which is probably your day as well. The teachers would lecture and have discussions with the class. Assignments were done at home, when the teacher had a class they were talking or going over the previous evening’s assignments. Besides during a tests and even then the teachers had to watch kids like a hawk, I cannot imagine any teacher I had in high school being able to divert even 5 minutes away from the class.

  155. Libturd says:

    JCer,

    It appears to me that Pumps is a lazy teacher. Rather than fostering critical thought during his underutilized class time, he spends every free moment here.

  156. 3b says:

    Pumps: “The younger generations just need to put in the time, it’s not given to you, they are complaining over nonsense.”

    What a self absorbed, selfish, ignorant comment on your part. It proves what I said previously about you.

  157. BRT says:

    Dr. Peter McCullough: Now, the myocarditis that occurs with a natural infection is usually those sick enough to be in the ICU, and it’s a troponin elevation only. It is very different than the myocarditis that we’re seeing with the vaccines, which we’ll get to. The myocarditis in COVID-19 is mild, it’s inconsequential, and it’s largely a troponin elevation. I don’t want anybody to think that the myocarditis of the natural infection is anything like what we’re seeing with the vaccines.

    Interviewer: Exactly. The vaccine produces the inflammatory type process is on the heart.

    Dr. Peter McCullough: And the vaccine is directly there. Now there’s preclinical studies suggesting the lipid nanoparticles actually go right into the heart. The heart expresses the spike protein. The body attacks the heart. There are dramatic EKG changes. The troponin, the blood test for heart injury with the vaccine myocarditis, is 10 to 100 fold higher than the troponin we see with the natural infection. It’s a totally different syndrome. About what when the kids get myocarditis after the vaccine, 90% have to be hospitalized. They have dramatic EKG changes, chest pain, early heart failure. They need echocardiograms. If the ejection fraction is low, they need medications to prevent heart failure. So vaccine-induced myocarditis is a big deal. And in children, it’s way more serious and more prominent than post-COVID myocarditis.

    Pumpkin, there you go. You are 40, so not as much of a risk for myocarditis as a child. But even so, I would say, J&J is a better option for boosting if that’s a concern of yours. J&J is currently not offered for children until trials are completed.

  158. Juice Box says:

    3B – there was and is media bias. As I mentioned the tipsters were shopping it around for big bucks via lawyers. You can bet they approached the deeper pockets like Fox News before they went to lowly Veritas. I gather even Hannity’s people thought it was fake, a written diary is not a computer hard drive, very little forensics. Even the hard left media has some standards. I thought in 2016 the dossier story was fake too, but the media used the DOJ investigation a a crutch to run with it.

    Hunters computer, Ashley’s diary, stories about Biden’s sexual assaults were all out there, but little could be verified.

  159. Fast Eddie says:

    3b,

    If Trump presided over the epic personal and political disasters that we’ve witnessed over these last 10 months, every network would have wall to wall coverage of a presidential dismemberment. My head spins at the destruction and mayhem the democrat party inflicts upon us on a daily basis. I sometimes sit and wonder if the destruction of this country is actually intentional. The list of failures and discovery is astonishing. President Brandon’s personal life is sad; his political life is a tragedy! And my country is under assault!

  160. The Great Pumpkin says:

    How do I say this so I don’t sound insincere? I do care, but I have grown up. Do you remember me always posting complaining about capitalism and pushing social!sm?

    I understand their plight, but I also understand that everyone can’t be rich and live the good life. Not everyone is meant to own a house. We tried that, and it almost took down the economy.

    So how do we make life great for everyone? Serious question. Hitting the reset (letting it all crash) on the economy does not help everyone…it actually hurts everyone. Sure prices drop, but the buying power is non existent as prices are crashing leaving everyone in a worse off position, but hey, homes are now cheap(aka almost worthless).

    3b says:
    November 9, 2021 at 11:53 am
    Pumps: “The younger generations just need to put in the time, it’s not given to you, they are complaining over nonsense.”

    What a self absorbed, selfish, ignorant comment on your part. It proves what I said previously about you

  161. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Brt,

    Thanks, appreciate it.

  162. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Thanks. Appreciate it.

    Libturd says:
    November 9, 2021 at 11:48 am
    JCer,

    It appears to me that Pumps is a lazy teacher. Rather than fostering critical thought during his underutilized class time, he spends every free moment here.

  163. 3b says:

    Juice: Understand. In the end though, Biden was an awful choice for the Dems.

  164. 3b says:

    Pumps: You are sitting pretty as I said in large measure as you have that big second income coming in; there is no getting around that. And hey good for you. As for not everyone should own a house we tried that, well you have a point there. But now it’s lets have the Fed inflate house prices to ridiculous levels so that people who could legitimately afford one are shut out so you and the other Boomers get to keep your “values” high, and then lecture the younger generations. A little humility on your part would be nice.

  165. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The Wire was so on point. Loved that season.

    I should have kept a diary of what I have dealt with in my 17 years in urban teaching. Then published a book. It’s a whole other world that most people can’t begin to understand or fathom unless you witnessed it first hand.

    No One says:
    November 9, 2021 at 11:44 am
    Here’s a video of Pumps in class:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RohFeqsNV1U

  166. chicagofinance says:

    Dedicated to Phoenix & Left:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WipFqwSjSMM

  167. chicagofinance says:

    Slowly transitioning out of all individual securities for roughly 4-5 years. I focus mainly on broad allocations and sector focus. Been overweight U.S. for years. It is a dual thesis: (1) the U.S., fuct as it is, is the only place without its head up its a%%; (2) U.S. mega-tech is the black hole of the investment universe, sucking in mega-dollars with extreme gravitational force. No other market has such an advantage.

    I think risk has been chronically suppressed. Way too many people are overconfident in their abilities. With The Fed put in place, the markets have been one giant call option. One can rant all you want, but personal bias needs to be put aside.

    It pains the sh!t out of me to see growth crush value year after year, but thems the facts.

    The noted philosopher Dave Gahan once said:

    When I look at you
    I’m probably the same way too
    I got a feeling that it’s coming soon
    Could this be the end?

    And when I look around this room
    It must be something I can do
    Can I convince you that it isn’t true?
    We’ve come to the end

    Oh did I disappoint you?
    I wanted to believe it’s true
    Oh the book of love
    Was not enough to see us through

    It seems so obvious to you
    You’re feeling what I’m feeling too
    The final chapter in the contract expires soon
    We’ve come to the end

    Thank God, I’m not the same as you
    You always know exactly what to do
    Is who I am, is not for you
    We’ve come to the end

    Libturd says:
    November 9, 2021 at 8:47 am
    Chi,
    You still following Ubiquity? We both should have stayed in that one.

  168. leftwing says:

    LOL, thx chi…Kinison is great, and that stage curtain omg…

    No ‘lonesome tonight’ here though…..best money I ever spent…..although I do on occasion wonder something…how it must feel to realize that the person that knew you the best readily handed you seven figures cash and a tidy monthly sum to JUST GO AWAY. To leave. To get lost. That can’t be good for the self esteem lol.

    Not that I care, but it does make me smirk.

  169. leftwing says:

    “It’s [bitcoin] been banned now in 25% of the world, and will continue to be banned. There are plenty of other reasons why it won’t work as a currency…”

    The US need not take any action, it will never be a currency here under current law….

    It’s classified as property. Which means every time it is exchanged (ie, used to purchase something) it is a taxable event.

    You need to calculate your basis in the bitcoin you are spending and pay taxes on the bitcoin simply by virtue of using it to buy something.

    Aside from the total tax inefficiency it is logistically impossible….think of every weekly purchase you make and imagine for each of those purchases you had to report to the government what the value of the dollar you spent was at the time you earned it….

    BTC can be a store of value – as others have pointed out until collectively people no longer want it to be at which time it plummets.

    But a currency in the US?

    Not without a major tax law change which isn’t coming.

  170. Bystander says:

    Biden was the only sane choice at time to get rid of lunatuc President who lied about seriousness of COVID (hoax, gone by Easter), told scared Americans to drink bleach then tweeted White power videos to world. Biden is certainly not the go forward answer but Rs have no answer.

    Wow that would be three in a row, Ed..Biden, Trump and Clinton’s pizza parlor. The conspiracies never end.

    Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Donald Trump walked into the dressing room while contestants — some as young as 15 — were changing.

    “I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,’” said Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA.

  171. Libturd says:

    For the most part, I’ve been heavily invested in VUG. Vanguard’s low cost, large cap growth. Individual stocks never make up more than 20% of my portfolio, but they often are responsible for bringing my portfolio slightly better performance over the benchmarks I use to gauge my performance (usually the total stock market index). I find sector rotation extraordinarily tough in these wild times, so instead, I’ve opted for a greater focus on vertical diversity (small caps vs mega caps). Though, I will admit, I may be a fool for trying to time the market this round. There was once a time when the FED followed a pretty simple playbook. Today, as you eloquently stated, the play is one giant call. Though, I’m not sure why I believe Powell will at least try to reduce the further purchasing of assets before Wall Street throws another tantrum. It’s not confirmation bias, so much as I think he needs to at least put up the facade of trying to do the right thing. Even if it’s for just a week or two. Then he can say that he tried.

    We’ll see.

  172. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Well said.

    chicagofinance says:
    November 9, 2021 at 1:22 pm

  173. 3b says:

    Bystander: Understand, but certainly does not say much. As for Trump-Biden and who is the creepiest/most disturbed, I would say if what Biden’s daughter said is true, then Biden wins hands down. One thing walking into a dressing room with 15 Year old girls vs taking inappropriate showers with your Daughter.

  174. Libturd says:

    First, lets see if the diary is even real. Number two, how old is the daughter. I’ve showered with my son before, to save time, when on vacation. Nothing sexual there. I’ve also taken a bath with my son when he was very young. If the showers took place when she was three or four, and then reminiscing about it as a 7 year old as potential abuse, then it’s a different story. Realistically, the whole thing smells of a pissing dossier. Truth be told, be careful what you wish for, the last thing the other side wants is Biden to step down. No doubt his replacement will be better. If Biden remains in office. Look out Dems.

  175. 3b says:

    Lib: One thing taking a shower with same sex child depending on age, vs a Father taking one with a Daughter, that’s just my opinion. Of course the diary could be a fake, the discussion is if it’s true. If so then disturbing in my mind and would fit with Biden’s other strange behavior around little girls and women. In the end if if he steps down because of it then fine, we get Harris. Who cares, we are screwed anyhow.

  176. PumpkinFace says:

    Why do you hate the workers?

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    November 9, 2021 at 12:12 pm
    How do I say this so I don’t sound insincere? I do care, but I have grown up. Do you remember me always posting complaining about capitalism and pushing social!sm?

    I understand their plight, but I also understand that everyone can’t be rich and live the good life. Not everyone is meant to own a house.

  177. Bystander says:

    3b,

    Hmm, maybe just me but Orange sicko said on multiple occasions hwo great his daughter’s body is and how he would basically f* her if she were not his daughter. Sorry that is far sicker stuff but dolts give it all a free pass. It’s just Don afterall. He can do what he wants. That is the cult.

  178. SmallGovConservative says:

    Bystander says:
    November 9, 2021 at 1:41 pm
    “Biden was the only sane choice…”

    Only for Dem stooges. Biden’s almost 50 year record of incompetence and corruption as a resident of the DC swamp was crystal clear — as was his senility. You’ll no doubt spew the same nonsense in ’24 when the Dems run Karmela — the only person in DC less competent than Biden.

    3b says:
    November 9, 2021 at 11:08 am
    “Fast: Pretty damning stuff if true…”

    Unlike the nonsense lobbed at T, virtually every act of corruption, malfeasance, and creepiness that’s been alleged about Biden has been true. Absolutely no reason to doubt that he engaged in inappropriate conduct with his daughter. But then again for stooges like Bi and the other idiots that voted for him, he’s the sane choice.

  179. 3b says:

    Bystander: It’s not worth arguing, in tit for tat fashion. What Trump said was disgusting , but he did not act on it as far as we know. In the Biden case assuming it’s true he took what is described as in appropriate showers with his Daughter, as in they were both in the shower together, naked . Was it all innocent? Who knows ? Did anything more happen in the shower ? Who knows? If it were all to be verified as happening then in my mind that makes Biden worse. Away from that he is a bought and paid for 50 year politician and not much intellectual capacity. He sucks , they all suck and so does Trump.

  180. Ex says:

    Across the state, both cases and hospitalizations hit a plateau after months of decline. Hospitalizations have remained fairly flat in some areas with relatively high vaccination rates, including the San Francisco Bay Area and Los Angeles County.

    But in some areas with lower vaccination rates, such as Riverside, San Bernardino and Fresno counties, conditions are deteriorating, with hospitalizations up by more than 20% in recent weeks. And even some places with relatively high vaccination rates are seeing COVID-19 hospitalizations tick upward; in Orange County, COVID-19 hospitalizations are up by 16% since Halloween.

    Health officials have been warning about a potential new rise in COVID-19 in California as seniors who got their shots last winter — and haven’t received a booster shot — may start to see their immunity wane, leaving them exposed to greater risk for infection and hospitalization, and as people gather indoors more as the weather cools and the holidays approach.

  181. leftwing says:

    Lib, MKSI is out of my area of knowledge. These types of companies – and others like semi suppliers and SaaS – are just too time consuming for me to pull apart for the potential return….TY though.

    I did take the opportunity with the ER declines on some established tech to set a beach head….I’ve been out of holding them long term for a while so wrote some put contracts on PYPL (at 170), TRIP (at 30), and Z (at 60). All IRA.

    I’ll earn 1.5% over ten days on TRIP, almost 2.0% on PYPL over 74 days, and 6% on Z for three months.

    If I don’t get filled at those strikes I keep the return….if I get filled I get the return and I’m comfortable holding those stocks at those prices going into the New Year…

    Z can keep me awake, anticipating problems there but got a very good feeling trading the stock recently so although there’s a good chance she may breach 60 I’m OK with it and I can adjust so long as it isn’t a total fall out of bed.

    Bottom line, got tired of waiting for a pullback so with the earnings declines on these and then writing at a price another 10-30% down I ‘manufactured’ the pullback myself…..

  182. Bystander says:

    I don’t know what you are talking about 3b. Trump says gross sexual about his daughter but he did not act on it? How do you know? If Ivanka claims nothing then Ashley’s diary is nothing too. Taking lines from a diary and assuming Biden assaulted his daughter as truth. Inappropriate could mean that she thought she was too old..fine. Let her speak and claim assault. Move on otherwise. Boebert tweeting this is priceless as her husband did jail time for showing his p*cker to underage girls. She was one of them. Fine example.

  183. leftwing says:

    “I don’t know what you are talking about 3b.”

    I don’t want to put words in his mouth but I think he’s saying it’s really tiresome anytime anything is mentioned about Biden instead of accepting it or debating it all that happens is someone pointing in the rear view mirror and shrieking ‘But TTRRUUMMPP!!!’

    Man up. Debate it or own it. But for fcuk’s sake can we leave the Orange Idiot out of the Biden discussion.

    DJT is/was an obnoxious bad faith insecure egotistical asshole. But I agreed with his policies overall.

    See? It’s easy.

  184. 3b says:

    Bystander : It’s obvious you did not read my post, and that’s because you are blinded by this hatred of Trump, and everything is viewed through that lens.

    Just to recap I said if the contents of the diary turned out to be true, but you ignored that part.

    I also said Trump never acted on the comments he made about his Daughter AS FAR AS WE KNOW.

    It would be nice if we could have a discussion and to speculate without it turning into WHAT ABOUT TRUMP!

  185. Bystander says:

    left,

    Typical..you are of the classic red dolt debaters who claim TDS but end with “but only because of mean tweets”. Own it, man. His policies were blustering garbage. Explain soc&alism on left but 50b to corp farming bailouts. Explain why China will not meet trade targets yet no repercussions from the great deal. Explain tweeting about greatest economy and Dow as proof..and now claiming Dems destroyed it while Dow at over 36k. There is no policy to stand on. You guys just make sh*t up.

  186. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I don’t, but what are we supposed to do? Socialize the playing field and make everyone a winner at the expense of the current winners in our economy? Who’s going to keep working hard if a home and the good life is just “a given.”

    PumpkinFace says:
    November 9, 2021 at 1:57 pm
    Why do you hate the workers?

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    November 9, 2021 at 12:12 pm
    How do I say this so I don’t sound insincere? I do care, but I have grown up. Do you remember me always posting complaining about capitalism and pushing social!sm?

    I understand their plight, but I also understand that everyone can’t be rich and live the good life. Not everyone is meant to own a house.

  187. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Living in one of the greatest economic runs of all time, and people out here crying about how bad it is. If you can’t improve your lot in this economy, look in the mirror. There are plenty of jobs offering much higher pay, and plenty of business/investment opportunities for anyone to get rich over time.

    “Explain tweeting about greatest economy and Dow as proof..and now claiming Dems destroyed it while Dow at over 36k. There is no policy to stand on. You guys just make sh*t up”

  188. leftwing says:

    As I said I’ll gladly own the policies….tough on China, attempt at energy independence, close the border to illegal immigration, acknowledgement and attempt at reversing decades of policies encouraging offshoring of US business, corporate tax cuts, exited TPP, exited Iran nuke deal, and acknowledgment and real attempt at deregulation across the board.

    We can agree or disagree on the merits of those actions…you of course have your own opinion.

    But, yes, when instead of debating the topic at hand your side spends the entire term focusing on the mean tweets and then bring up “but he did…” at every discussion point of Biden you do sound like a middle school girl in schoolyard slap fight.

    Resurrecting DJT is not done by my side of the aisle…as I’ve made clear I’m hoping for prosecution of him by Letitia James and that Jack keeps him banned.

    You guys are the one with the fixation unable to focus on anything else.

  189. BRT says:

    There were more sane options than Biden running for the nomination. The problem is, they exiled Tulsi Gabbard and then all colluded and dropped out to support the 6th place candidate, Joe Biden. The democrats got the person they least wanted.

    Biden’s presidency is proving to be an absolute disaster as they seem to have a knack to unanimously drop the ball on every issue or take something working and destroy it.

  190. Ex says:

    Disaster? Not even close.

  191. 3b says:

    Ex: It’s pretty much a disaster, leaving politics and Trump in general our of it , it’s pretty much a disaster. This is the only choice Americans had after Trump? We could not do better? Doesn’t say much for the country.

  192. Bystander says:

    3b,

    You are too much. Control F and find, see who mentions Trump first. Hint it will be you, Juice, Ed, JCer. Why? I don’t know why you guys have TDS and bring up his name so often. I just slam the hypocrisy, particularly one where the biggest daughter lusting perv and teen pageant predator just left office 10 months ago. You can’t make this stuff up.

  193. Libturd says:

    I wouldn’t go that far. Biden (or Pelosi) did get his infrastructure bill passed. We are out of Afghanistan and the stock market is doing even better than Trump’s did. The job reports have been stellar as well. But instead, the narrative is diapers and farts from the right, when it should be the lack of progressive items the bill contained.

  194. Libturd says:

    Crude’s at 10 year highs. No inflation to see there.

  195. Fast Eddie says:

    President Sleepy Sh1tter has a 38% approval rating (actually lower) and 72% say the country is heading in the wrong direction. Who can the democrats blame? You want a list of this administration’s lengthy epic failures achieved in less than a year?

  196. BRT says:

    The Afghanistan exit was embarrassing and awful. Infrastructure bill means crap to me unless I actually see new roads and bridges. This was all supposed to get done 2008 and they made the money vanish. As far as jobs go, every singe Starbucks in my county is closing at 12 pm because they can’t get anyone to work. I was in a great restaurant I frequent and they had to scale down to 1/4 capacity because they can’t get anyone to work. I keep seeing supply shortages everywhere. The border is an absolute train wreck. Btw, my friend in Little Silver says they now have dozens of kids entering each school that speak no English out of no where the past month. I wouldn’t be calling Dow 36k an accomplishment while you flee the market. Besides, that’s Powell’s accomplishment. Biden’s not even running the show. He hides from the press and his mental state is still in a state of decline. He’s sitting in the front seat on autopilot like he’s riding a Tesla. Even Dems are giving him the downvote in approval ratings.

  197. BRT says:

    btw…his Covid policies are an absolute sh1t show between his political appointees at CDC, FDA, and department of health. They’ve completely lost the trust of the public.

  198. SmallGovConservative says:

    Ex says:
    November 9, 2021 at 3:45 pm
    “Disaster? Not even close.”

    Libturd says:
    November 9, 2021 at 3:51 pm
    “We are out of Afghanistan…”

    Clueless apologists…
    – immigration/border security = disaster
    – energy prices/inflation = disaster
    – Afghanistan = disaster (Lib says we’re out, but of course ignores the marines that came home in coffins due to Biden’s incompetence, as well as the fact that we now have no idea what the terrorists who’ve taken over are planning to do)
    – transportation/supply chain = disaster (is Sec Buttplug still on leave?)
    – middle east = disaster (Iran back to causing trouble)
    – eastern europe = burgeoning disaster
    – political corruption = disaster (anyone here own one of Hunter’s masterpieces?)

  199. 3b says:

    Lib: Except for getting us out of Afghanistan ( in a disastrous manner) the rest I don’t attribute to Biden, nor Trump for that matter. As for the infrastructure bill that remains to be seen how it turns out. As for the progressive items some I like such as the paid family leave, others debate able. But in general I still say overall the Biden administration is a disaster, as was Trumps. Now it’s even.

  200. 3b says:

    As I understand it the universal child care for 3 and 4 year old is going to require that the care givers all be college grads. I would imagine that puts a lot of current care givers out of a job.

  201. Bystander says:

    Ahh, left. I think Hilary was against TPP as well so don’t that was going anywhere any way. He really attempted things. Wow, what we really needed except he mostly hurt Americans in process like shutting down govt for vanity/failed wall funding, getting poor Racine WA into nearly 1b in infra debt touting Fox-“Con jobs”, hurting NE with removal of SALT, exploding 40B in addtl corp bailouts because of bad toothless China deal. Offshoring? He could have solved that by upping the starting salary for h1b like he promised on Day 1 (something I agreed with). He simply shuffled some rules on where the H1bs come from, nothing more. It was a speed bump. All the H1b visa quota still got filled as always. Offshoring got worse in 2020 and I know Biden will do nothing to.

  202. JCer says:

    Bystander, you clearly have a bad case of TDS. The Biden administration is a dumpster fire, objectively. Apparently 2/3rd of America agree. You cannot attribute much of anything to Biden as he is clearly not calling the shots, he’s incontinent and falling asleep during international meetings. Even the “wicked witch of Chappaqua”, Hillary Clinton,” was a better candidate I cannot believe the dems really thought this was a good time for a Joe Biden candidacy, someone has set him up as their Manchurian candidate. I still am in awe that the dems found someone even more unlikable than Hillary in Kamala Harris, even her own parents dislike her.

    This whole admin was setup to be paralyzed, Biden likely needs to be removed yet no one will advocate for that because no one wants Kamala. She’s the best insurance policy, I for a long time believed that Biden was Obama’s vp so no one would try to assassinate Obama. Literally one of the dumbest members of clowngress is now the president.

  203. Bystander says:

    Sorry, I guess you did not mean offshoring of jobs but offshoring of corp HQ to lower taxed countries. A failure as well. Trump claims 4T would come but only 1T heading into 2020. Always big numbers and little results for mushroom dik.

  204. Bystander says:

    Ya know, JCer. I never liked Biden and he can truly suck in a vaccum of his own. I don’t really care. I have one question for you- who is your candidate in 2024?

  205. JCer says:

    I would have preferred Herman Cain in 2016, in 2020 the Dems could have run Booker, Bernie, Bloomberg, Gabbard, even Yang or Buttigieg is better than Biden at least they know what year it is. In 2024 hopefully we can find someone who gives a sh*t who isn’t just in it for the grift, staying out of prison, or their own personal ego. I care less about the ideological mindset if the person is committed to trying to do right by the country. Neither side is at all concerned with the well being of the nation.

  206. JCer says:

    Bystander it is all tied, I have worked at places where we literally would hire in foreign markets NOT because they were cheaper but because we had offshore money and didn’t want to repatriate the funds. Tax policy plays a role, the territorial taxation promotes utilizing funds outside of the US, rather than spending them domestically.

    Trump couldn’t “fix” sh*t, he has very little grasp on how the government actually works, and was dependent on clowngress to pass legislation and generally was very dependent on the folks running his whitehouse. The president is not a king, they basically have limited power and the ability to veto legislation. As for the SALT deduction and taxes that is coming from the republican party just as the infrastructure bill has little to do with Biden and everything to do with want the DNC wanted. The president is just there to sign or veto what clowngress dreams up.

  207. Bystander says:

    The fat man is singing, Chris Christie in 2024. There you go. I liked Christie until his aspirations turned to the WH and then k&ssed the Orange cheek to get some political position, where Trump f&ed him anyway. He is lightyears smarter than other dopes coming up.

  208. Ex says:

    4:08 nothing you mentioned comes close to a coup and sedition. Nothing.

  209. BRT says:

    So yesterday, Princeton was chaos. A bunch of teens from Newark descended on one of the neighborhoods and stole all kinds of high end vehicles. One of them crashed at high speed and killed themselves and some other poor woman.

    They showed up again in the night and made off with a bunch of other cars. It’s amazing how fast all the posters on the Princeton news site went from BLM and defund the police to begging for the state police to supplement their own PD with patrols.

  210. BRT says:

    I liked Christie until his aspirations turned to the WH

    I assume you mean you liked him as US attorney, because he started running for president the instant he was elected on day 1.

  211. SmallGovConservative says:

    Bi, the king of clueless, strikes again! Hammers T for not completely resolving his work visa complaints, but says nothing about ‘sane choice’ Biden’s plan to turn illegal immigrants into taxpayer-funded millionaires. Bi might actually think it’s a good idea; make them millionaires and he won’t have to compete with them for a job — they’ll all be retired. What a dunce!

    Bystander says:
    November 9, 2021 at 4:47 pm
    “Ahh, left. I think Hilary was against TPP as well…”

    More cluelessness. She flip-flopped so much during the 16 campaign that even she had no idea what she was saying. But we know she said this in 12…
    “This TPP sets the gold standard in trade agreements to open free, transparent, fair trade, the kind of environment that has the rule of law and a level playing field.”

    Got anything else? Want to try for the trifecta of wrong?

  212. Libturd says:

    Neither side is at all concerned with the well being of the nation.

    Yup! I just expected to be worse than he is on the corporate front.

  213. Juice Box says:

    BRT – State police cannot do much, there can be no more chases for stolen cars. Former AG Gubir Grewal changed the rules before he left for director of the SEC. The law defines motor vehicle theft as a third-degree crime. The Police can only give chase now for serious first-degree or violent second-degree crimes.

    Best best is to garage your car and have an alarm system and perhaps a vicious dog. Don’t even think about using a weapon, you will go to jail, this guy has people sneaking onto his property every two weeks to steal his cars. He was the one arrested defending his property.

    https://nypost.com/2021/09/30/naked-meat-mogul-evan-wexler-grabbed-gun-after-getting-fed-up-thieves/

  214. BRT says:

    I know. I just think it’s hilarious I watched all those people march in town for a whole summer every weekend badmouthing the police and now they want extra police after one bad incident. What’s next, racial profiling?

  215. Juice Box says:

    What a worm.. Adam Schiff just wrote a book claiming Robert Muller is SENILE, to explain why he didn’t find the fake conspiracy.

    Here he is in the view today, main source of the Dossier is now under criminal charges for lying to the FBI.

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1458128033907359744?s=20

  216. Bystander says:

    Smallbrain and his Faux News propaganda piece – “They said it so it must be true” 450K each..sure dimwit. Flipflopping, that is hilarious. The Tan lord thought TPP was something that got on his shoe after a twitter and sh*tter.

    Candidate Trump:
    “The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay…I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions.”

    Small brain’s logic – Trump and Rutgers football will be great again. Hah..is Wisconsin done scoring, dumba$$?

  217. Juice Box says:

    BRT – it is going to get worse too, gangs are sending in 14 year old girls to steal cars, that is a 40 mile drive up 95 once they steal the car, this comes in waves until the gang is broken up. We have had reports of trouble in Around here mostly Holmdel. I see loads of Ring videos and alerts etc. One homeowner reported 4 attempts in the last month, and some people want to organize a neighborhood patrol, but are too lazy. There are cameras on every house, pretty much next step will be for the robbers to start targeting the supermarket parking lots much easier to grab a car from there like they were doing at the short hills mall a few years back bound to be some gunplay eventually.

  218. The Great Pumpkin says:

    That’s hilarious. Now they get it.

    Working where I do, I make no misunderstanding about the importance of police in the suburbs of jersey. They look at rich people as easy targets. Shows you, class warfare isn’t a one way street of rich picking on poor; it’s a two way street. For some reason, the poor have been given a free pass…

    BRT says:
    November 9, 2021 at 6:57 pm
    So yesterday, Princeton was chaos. A bunch of teens from Newark descended on one of the neighborhoods and stole all kinds of high end vehicles. One of them crashed at high speed and killed themselves and some other poor woman.

    They showed up again in the night and made off with a bunch of other cars. It’s amazing how fast all the posters on the Princeton news site went from BLM and defund the police to begging for the state police to supplement their own PD with patrols.

  219. The Great Pumpkin says:

    *They meaning the urban poor.

  220. Ex says:

    Anyone baked right now?

  221. Juice Box says:

    Speaking of the wire and car thefts there is an intersection.

    A Vice episode the now deceased Michael K Williams narrated about Newark and car thefts just before the pandemic.

    Such great reporting, and such a great loss of Michael K Williams.

    Btw these gangs are heavily armed and still operating.

    Worth the 24 minute watch.

    https://www.vicetv.com/en_us/video/new-jersey-drive/57683e3f5d83958b0dfc1103

  222. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    My brother hired a tutor for his daughter. 55 an hour. I do not know how catholic schools keep teachers around. God bless the Catholic school teachers giving back to the community.

  223. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Nice share, juice. Can’t wait to watch.

  224. 3b says:

    BRT: That’s the biggest problem I have with these so called Liberals, defund the police blah, blah until it happens in their town and then they are all about law and order. Same with low/moderate income housing build it just not in their town.

  225. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Jam out to this catchy feel good vibe.

    https://youtu.be/WgBeu3FVi60

    Ex says:
    November 9, 2021 at 8:21 pm
    Anyone baked right now?

  226. Bystander says:

    Ex,

    Sat. for Dune at the big screen. That was pretty wild. I liked it.

    Damn Blump..you really have shit taste. Here you go, Ex. This will blow mind then center you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmIaubt4NWY

  227. Ex says:

    Good lord! That’s something.

  228. Bystander says:

    The media is sensationalist crap across the board. Just make sh&t up, even on MNF.

    Steve Levy makes up BS story, gets called out and then calls Najee “inspirational”. I don’t know how black people can tolerate the pandering.

    “Even when he got to Alabama on the full-ride [scholarship], got the fancy dorm room, he spent the first few months in Alabama sleeping on the floor,” Levy said during the game. “Said he was just more comfortable, he was more used to that.”

    Najee Harris
    @ohthatsNajee22
    Bra I ain’t sleep on no dam floor in college. I slept on my bed

  229. Fabius Maximus says:

    “DJT is/was an obnoxious bad faith insecure egotistical asshole. But I agreed with his policies overall.”

    And when he runs in 2024, I’ll still pull the handle for him.

  230. Bystander says:

    You got that right, Fab. They are not fooling anyone. Colonel Kurtz’s clan has nothing on the Orange faced god.

    Ex,

    I’ve seeen Eric twice. First time at 9:30 club years ago, I had my SRV shirt on and he pointed to me then nodded and went into it. He is coming to my town in April. He is not well appreciated and still plays to small audiences. Too technical, I guess.

    David is god. Not big on Atom Heart mother but great version. Did you see Nick Mason’s Saucerful of Secrets? They do everything before DSOTM. Might do this tune but not sure. They are touring next year.

    One of my favorite things right now is watching these cross-cultural videos on Youtube. White music and culture are forever in debt to the black musicians who gave us the sounds that influenced generations of white musicians. Black people are not generally exposed to many bands that we take for granted, like Floyd. What happens when they are? This girl has best reaction. She is beautiful and amazing. She gets it immediately. I am a bit addicted to these reaction videos. Lots of garbage, people just trying to get clicks but this one is genuine and awesome.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWslibUABM8

    The ones with Bill Burr on woman and race with black people reacting are priceless. Some good insight on those videos.

  231. Chicago says:

    Not baked, but does watching this get me an honorable mention?

    Ex says:
    November 9, 2021 at 8:21 pm
    Anyone baked right now?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BC35cQKHwzg

  232. leftwing says:

    “And when he runs in 2024, I’ll still pull the handle for him.”

    Hopefully not. And as I’ve stated repeatedly the best favor the AG of NY could do for Team Red is prosecute DJT and win.

    Bottom line though, what lever I pull depends on the alternatives.

    Unfortunately I (we) start with only two, pre-selected.

    If an R would actually grow balls and character, leave political positioning and consultants aside, and have a socio-economic background that is representative of the majority of citizens in this country, and is willing to act on it he gets my vote. Hands down.

    He needs to exist.

    If the Ds could find someone, anyone with the above profile and leave the woke, pandering, SJW, racial shit at home I would vote them over any establishment R…..

    Problem for that unicorn is he gets Bernied in the primaries.

    Much to Lib’s chagrin, I want a populist. Someone who will tear down the political structures of the last fifty years as those structures have only worked for those few inside the walls and have definitively not worked for the average citizen. I really don’t care if s/he comes from the Left or Right.

    They just need to exist and make it to the top of the ticket.

  233. Ex says:

    It’s gotten terrible and the identity politics stuff alienates so many voters in favor of these specious arguments.

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