Grim beginnings

Thanks CNN:

US could be in store for a ‘grim beginning’ to the new year, experts warn, as dual variants of Covid-19 spread

With the Delta and Omicron coronavirus variants spreading across the nation as the new year approaches, health experts are urging Americans to get vaccinated or boosted to protect themselves and others before they face greater chances of infection.

Airport travel before Christmas is up by nearly double from a year ago, according toTransportation Security Administration data, with more than two million people screened each day from December 16-18. And the indoor gatherings among friends and family that highlight the holiday season could ultimately infect more who are at higher risk for Covid-19 complications. 

“We’re all anticipating with Delta, with all the travel that we’re doing and all these holiday get-togethers, the beginnings of Omicron and its spread as well as … influenza also making its appearance, we could be in for an ominous winter season and a kind of grim beginning of the new year,” Dr. William Schaffner, a professor in the Division of Infectious Diseases at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, told CNN’s Jim Acosta Sunday.

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238 Responses to Grim beginnings

  1. Juice Box says:

    Foist!

    We are all going to get Covid!

  2. grim says:

    That discussion seems to be becoming far more mainstream.

  3. Hold my beer says:

    Moderna to the rescue

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10328487/Moderna-says-booster-dose-COVID-19-vaccine-appears-protective-vs-Omicron.html

    And do some light exercise and eat more plants to help give yourself more of an edge.

  4. Juice Box says:

    Whoops Regeneron and Eli Lilly’s antibodies don’t work so well against Omicron..

    https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/omicron-sideline-leading-drugs-covid-19-81844019

  5. Ex says:

    Random “flu” like feeling – chills, weakness
    Diarrhea hit Friday. Oooof.

  6. Phoenix says:

    Well,
    It looks like us who get up and go to work are going to have to keep “producing.”

    I’m going to set my alarm to play this, no way I will sleep through it:

    https://youtu.be/netFpPZQHqY?t=67

  7. Phoenix says:

    Ex,
    Feel better.

  8. Ex says:

    Thanks! Getting there.

  9. Libturd says:

    Ex,

    That sounds like my average day.

  10. Phoenix says:

    Look at the bright side,

    I guess by summer it should go through most of the population.

    Shorter lines at the amusement parks, perhaps?

  11. Phoenix says:

    Ex,
    I’ll try some WFH for you.

    I’ll start small. Wipe from front to back. Drink plenty of fluids.

    Hey, I like this. I wanna work from home now! That will be 125.

  12. Phoenix says:

    Happy Holidays,

    This is where your gift comes from:

    https://youtu.be/JC9VgxiYM4I?t=397

  13. grim says:

    Whoops Regeneron and Eli Lilly’s antibodies don’t work so well against Omicron

    And it sounds like the pills are going to take months as well. Certainly not something that’ll be in place for this winter.

  14. Libturd says:

    I’m gonna get me some TAIL this morning.

  15. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    FL amusement parks will be PACKED next year. People are escaping the petty tyrants and their knee jerk reactions. And the subjugation and conditioning and the rest.

  16. Phoenix says:

    “People are escaping the petty tyrants and their knee jerk reactions. And the subjugation and conditioning and the rest.”

    I see this when driving on RT 80.

  17. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Booker is such an attention wh0re. Always has been. I guess if you are as irrelevant as he is at his profession you’ll do anything to get your name out there. But how many people tweet out the the world that you got sick. Does he want to let us know every time he drops a #2. It’s pathetic.

  18. BRT says:

    We are all going to get Covid!

    Except me

  19. BRT says:

    And it sounds like the pills are going to take months as well. Certainly not something that’ll be in place for this winter.

    A consequence of the victory lap our government took in May. There is no focus in this administration. Behind the curve on everything and now they are caught with their pants down.

  20. Phoenix says:

    BidenGoat,

    Easy, Easy on Booker. He is a SuperHero. Here is proof. He saves kittens from trees as well:

    https://youtu.be/f5GEt3j5-yg?t=35

  21. grim says:

    No worries, Biden is going to give us a fireside chat tomorrow. Yule log, blanket over his lap, dog at his feet. Now is the winter of our discontent.

  22. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Ex,

    Hope it passes quickly. Feel better.

  23. Phoenix says:

    “Behind the curve on everything and now they are caught with their pants down.”

    https://www.nj.com/crime/2020/02/naked-teacher-was-found-by-student-in-girls-locker-room-court-documents-say.html

  24. Phoenix says:

    Plenty of TSC stores in NJ. Stock up now. Use as directed.

    https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/durvet-ivermectin-pour-on-250-ml

  25. The Great Pumpkin says:

    We deserve this. From rioting and protesting last year during the lock down to attacking our capital building. To ignoring pleas to isolate, wear masks, and get vaccines; we deserve what we are going to get.

    Yes, we can blame govt, but the truth is that we should be blaming ourselves. Govt can only do so much with a divided populace that thinks everything the other team says is a lie.

    BRT says:
    December 20, 2021 at 8:54 am
    And it sounds like the pills are going to take months as well. Certainly not something that’ll be in place for this winter.

    A consequence of the victory lap our government took in May. There is no focus in this administration. Behind the curve on everything and now they are caught with their pants down.

  26. Phoenix says:

    “Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance.”
    David Mamet.

    A message from the Greatest Generation and the Boomers to the rest of you.

    Eff you, pay me.

  27. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Yeah that was staged. Everyone knew it at the time.

    To be elected in nj state wide now you aren’t elected, you are anointed. Corey needed to add to his every man persona a little before being anointed senator. He really is an elitist and did nothing for Newark except his own PR. Sounds a poor line Murphy.

  28. Phoenix says:

    Staged:

    Dog in hot car, you break window with rock to save child, felony, breaking and entering.

    Dog in hot car, cop breaks window, picture in paper with hero designation.

    Stay in your lane at all times. Don’t be a hero unless you prefer prison.

    Any questions?

  29. Phoenix says:

    To save dog. oops.

  30. 3b says:

    Ex: Feel better.

  31. Phoenix says:

    Juice,
    Tahoe is looking good. Now if I can get away for a few days.

  32. Fast Eddie says:

    Yule log, blanket over his lap, dog at his feet.

    Mirroring Jimmy Carter step for step. The only difference is Carter was cognizant and alive. Let’s hope we have our next Ronald Reagan in 2024.

  33. BRT says:

    Isolate, wear mask, get vaccinated. Sorry, none of it worked. The best it can do is delay the inevitable. The only legitimate way to get ahead of the virus was to attack it with an early treatment regiment that attacks multiple stages of the viral replication.

    Broadspectrum antivirals, antibiotics to prevent pneumonia, and monoclonal antibodies (which can be developed into a cocktail of various antibodies to non mutagentic regions of the virus). Vaccinations work well, but are now outdated. This is where they were behind the curve…and there is no excuse.

    Here’s the kicker…it was in big pharma’s monetary interest to not update it…yet everyone got behind them like they were their savior. Everyone sitting around wondering why they didn’t, obviously didn’t hear my J&J story on HIV meds they purchased from Janssen in the 2000s.

  34. BRT says:

    Is0Iate, wear mask, get vaccinated. S0rry, n0ne 0f it w0rked. The best it can d0 is deIay the inevitabIe. The 0nIy Iegitimate way t0 get ahead 0f the virus was t0 attack it with an earIy treatment regiment that attacks muItipIe stages 0f the viraI repIicati0n.
    Br0adspectrum antiviraIs, antibi0tics t0 prevent pneum0nia, and m0n0cI0naI antib0dies (which can be deveI0ped int0 a c0cktaiI 0f vari0us antib0dies t0 n0n mutagentic regi0ns 0f the virus). Vaccinati0ns w0rk weII, but are n0w 0utdated. This is where they were behind the curve…and there is n0 excuse.
    Here’s the kicker…it was in big pharma’s m0netary interest t0 n0t update it…yet every0ne g0t behind them Iike they were their savi0r. Every0ne sitting ar0und w0ndering why they didn’t, 0bvi0usIy didn’t hear my J&J st0ry 0n HlV meds they purchased fr0m Janssen in the 2000s.

  35. Libturd says:

    BRT,

    One could argue that the Warp 1.0 compensation to the pharmas was too rich. The vaccine market was never terribly profitable. Perhaps giving away the farm was not the prudent strategy. Maybe Trump should have invoked war powers? This way too, when the strains changed, so could have the vaccines? Me thinks big pharma just got one over on big government. Does anyone know the minutia around the profitability of these vaccines?

    When Gator and I went into the local pharmacy to get the regular flu shot, they had absolutely no interest in performing it, to the point where they claimed our insurance wouldn’t pay for it (which has never happened in 22 years of my BCBS coverage). Of course, there was a line out the door for people to get the booster and tests for Covid. I told Gator they clearly were getting paid a nice amount to administer the booster.

    This entire post is speculation. Anyone know more?

  36. The Great Pumpkin says:

    BRT,

    It doesn’t matter if we had a 100% effective vaccine. Not like the entire population would take it.

    You ignore the fact that we could have done something before this mutated to delta and then omicron. That’s what pisses me off. We had a chance, but countries like India gave two sh!ts, while our country rioted in the streets. People partied it up on spring break and now there are so many mutations we are f/ed. It didn’t have to be this way.

  37. Libturd says:

    BRT,

    One could argue that the Warp 1.0 compensat1on to the pharmas was too rich. The vaccine market was never terribly profitable. Perhaps giving away the farm was not the pru-dent strategy. Maybe Trump should have invoked war powers? This way too, when the strains changed, so could have the vaccines? Me thinks big pharma just got one over on big government. Does anyone know the minut1a around the profitability of these vaccines?

    When Gator and I went into the local pharm@cy to get the regular flu shot, they had absolutely no interest in performing it, to the point where they claimed our insurance wouldn’t pay for it (which has never happened in 22 years of my BCBS coverage). Of course, there was a line out the door for people to get the booster and tests for Covid. I told Gator they clearly were getting paid a nice amount to administer the booster.

    This entire post is speculation. Anyone know more?

  38. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yea, no need to suspend bad kids. Just give them a slap on the wrist and send them back to class. Seems to be working well.

    https://www.nj.com/education/2021/12/nj-suspends-50k-students-a-year-from-school-is-it-doing-more-harm-than-good.html

  39. The Great Pumpkin says:

    lmao…only a matter of time before Florida is f/ed with all these boomers moving down there and influencing their govt. The locusts are coming…watch out!

    “N.J. Democratic powerbroker George Norcross now registered to vote in Florida”

    https://www.nj.com/politics/2021/12/nj-democratic-powerbroker-george-norcross-now-registered-to-vote-in-florida.html

  40. grim says:

    This entire post is speculation. Anyone know more?

    Earlier on, Jayne went to get a rapid test at CityMD, reading through that insurance claim, I laughed. They billed insurance something like $500 for the rapid test alone, on top of the visit, which they charged like a doctors appointment as well (she never saw a doctor). The total bill to insurance was $900 something.

  41. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Talked to my boys from Florida at a wedding this weekend. They said the amount of traffic is insane. Their quality of life is being flushed down the drain. Their words, not mine. They are from St. Augustine and have lived there almost their entire life.

    They were crying about how much their property taxes are going up. How can this be, they are a red state?!

    Ahh, I said this for how long. Once an area becomes highly populated, get ready for everything to go up in cost. All those once cheap locations are f/ed.

  42. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Can we all agree that the private healthcare industry is a joke? How do they get away with this sh1t. Yea, politicians are the only corrupt ones…right.

    grim says:
    December 20, 2021 at 10:03 am
    This entire post is speculation. Anyone know more?

    Earlier on, Jayne went to get a rapid test at CityMD, reading through that insurance claim, I laughed. They billed insurance something like $500 for the rapid test alone, on top of the visit, which they charged like a doctors appointment as well. The total bill to insurance was $900 something.

  43. BRT says:

    No you couldn’t have. Delta came from India. Omicron came from South Africa. The vaccine efficacy fades after 6 months. The idea that you were going to vaccinate everyone within a 6 month window with zero breakthrough was a pipe dream. You believe in unicorns.

  44. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Well, then let’s save some money and just let it rage at this point.

    All this technology and education, yet we are still ignorant as f/k as a species.

  45. Phoenix says:

    Can we all agree that the private healthcare industry is a joke?

    Hey pumps, sit on this and rotate.

    Are you working any holidays this year? Are your toes basking in the sun at the Wayne Public Pool?

    Then be quiet.

    As far as a 900 dollar bill, good for them. Attorneys bill in 6 minute increments- and give you rehashed recycled documents billed as new.

    There are criminals in every industry. Why should healthcare be any different when you cannot even stop robo callers who try to get you to pay for auto warranties?

    You do nothing about them, corrupt cops, lawyers, judges or politicians.

  46. Phoenix says:

    Pumps,
    Just jack up your rent 1k per month and pay your healthcare premiums. You have no problem extorting them.

  47. The Great Pumpkin says:

    900 dollars for a test? Come on, and you say teachers pensions are robbing the public blind. How many tests were given? Could have probably paid off the pension debt easily with how much money has been thrown at covid with pretty bad results.

  48. grim says:

    Wonder how much money all those testing places that opened up in converted shipping containers in gas station parking lots made.

  49. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Maybe if the healthcare industry wasn’t so corrupt, our healthcare premiums wouldn’t be almost as high as my property taxes. Only a matter of time before the healthcare premiums pass up the cost of property taxes.

  50. Phoenix says:

    Here’s the kicker…it was in big pharma’s m0netary interest t0 n0t update it…yet every0ne g0t behind them Iike they were their savi0r.

    Or maybe they just wanted the summer off so they could vacation with their families like the superspreader teachers did.

    I guess they are supposed to work 24/7 so those who want to do their thing can enjoy the life they are entitled to.

  51. Phoenix says:

    Maybe if the teachers stopped sleeping with students the taxpayers wouldn’t have to keep footing the bill for the lawsuits.

    What’s only a “matter of time” is when the teachers are going to pay more and more for their healthcare with less assistance from taxpayers, or just get replaced by an online teacher from India.

  52. Phoenix says:

    Wonder how much money all those testing places that opened up in converted shipping containers in gas station parking lots made.

    Radical Capitalism. You want it, you got it.

  53. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Phoenix,

    Did you see how much the parents were up in arms over virtual learning. That’s called job security. A lot of parents don’t want to deal with their kids, esp when it comes to having them in the house 24/7.

  54. grim says:

    Power brokers gunna broker power..

    Norcross is also a member of Republican former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach.

  55. Phoenix says:

    Pumps,

    You, just like anyone else, can be replaced. Don’t kid yourself sweetheart.

    Bigger boys than you have been brought down.

  56. Phoenix says:

    Anyone who believes in the Red/ Blue bull has been gamed.

    It’s only ever been about “GREEN.”

    Keep fighting amongst yourselves, that was the plan all along.

    “Norcross is also a member of Republican former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach.”

  57. grim says:

    Ain’t that the truth

  58. grim says:

    Another 6500 cases for NJ

  59. Phoenix says:

    Red: Drink Bleach, Irradiate yourself internally with UV light until Covid is Dead.

    Blue: It will require 4 Covid shots, keep taking them, that will stop this.

    Me: you are all full of it. Drink your own Kool-aid, I’ll pass.

  60. Phoenix says:

    Human behavior is so well studied, with your cell phones and social media being the final frontier.

    Years ago they used subliminal messages to get you to buy a Coke in a movie theater.

    We are way past that now. They can convince many Americans that eating a plate of their own feces will save them from Covid.

    Alright, a bit extreme. But not that far off…

  61. Libturd says:

    Phoenix,

    You would have liked ExPat. You are sounding more and more like him every day.

    Hey, where’d Left Wing go?

    Isn’t Costa Rica sounding really nice right about now?

    I’m off work (sort of, they know that if they need me, I’m available) until January 3rd. I had to use up my remaining vacation since we don’t get to carry even a single minute over, unlike our public sector brethren. Two projects down. Next one is to replace about sixteen broken tiles in various places in the old house. I was in an empty Home Depot last night purchasing ten feet of molding. $40! This was unfinished corner overlap and a simple cheap wall molding.

    Hope everyone who didn’t need stimulus liked their stimulus checks and child credit advances. You’ll be paying for them three times over in inflation. How does everyone think the economy is going to do when you can’t refi your home anymore which is no longer increasing in value. All of your debt is costing 3-6% more to service. Everything costs 7% more than it did a year ago and the government is no longer paying you to sit at home. Oh yeah, the government isn’t spending 150 billion a month to make sure all of your debt is cheap. I suppose there is a silver lining. Those government bonds people bought for your kids when they were born and bar mitzvahed will finally have some value. They won’t keep up with the rampant inflation, but you can finally trade a few in for 1/1000th of a bitcoin.

    In other news, remote learning was so terrible that our older son got about 50 points higher on his SATs than any of us, including himself, expected. Funny, how disciplined children thrived with remote learning and little miss spoiled brat couldn’t focus.

  62. BRT says:

    Phoenix, you forgot horse dewormer

  63. Fast Eddie says:

    I was in an empty Home Depot last night purchasing ten feet of molding. $40!

    What we need is for Joe Manchin to come to his senses and vote “YES” for the $1,750,000,000,000 gluttonous, piggy package. Never mind the debt and inflation, it’s the only right thing to do!!

  64. Fast Eddie says:

    In lighter, happier news… the markets have been sideways and flat for eight months now, gold is down, silver is down, savings accounts are still at 0% interest and your money is disintegrating before your very eyes! Thanks, Brandon!

  65. grim says:

    On the 7th day of Christmas, my true love gave to me….

    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/12/nj-reports-6505-covid-cases-11-deaths-as-daily-case-average-continues-to-climb.html

    The state has now announced 31,921 new cases in the last five days — 6,271 on Thursday, 6,260 on Friday, 6,352 on Saturday, 6,533 on Sunday, and 6,505 on Monday. The state had only six days total last winter with more than 6,000 cases, the highest number being 6,922 on Jan. 13. If New Jersey reports another 6,000 cases tomorrow, it will mark the worst seven days of the pandemic.

  66. Libturd says:

    Grim,

    You and I both know it’s just going to get worse from here. And just wait until after Christmas. Thanksgiving was pre-Omnicron. Christmas will not be. And then there’s Kwanzaa!

  67. crushednjmillenial says:

    Wow, Kamala has had some bad gaffes, but WOW the way she handled the Charlemagne interview.

    New low.

  68. JCer says:

    Phoenix, I know it well. Political alignment is dependent on where you are doing business. My dad would tell me no one knew his real political opinions you had to schmooze whom ever was in power where you were doing business. Monied interests fund everyone, the right-left arguing is just theatre for the public and the end of the day both do the bidding of their paymasters. That being said PBC is a democrat stronghold in FL, no one said democrats weren’t hypocrites, no one wants to pay taxes.

    Government did what it needed to do to get the vaccine with Warpspeed. The issue is the utter incompetence of the Biden admin, they got behind Pharma and are still behind Pharma, if you want a new formulation you don’t do boosters at all with the current formulation and offer assistance to rollout updated vaccines. I suspect Peter Navarro was behind the original Warpspeed and if he was still in the government the situation would be more under control.

  69. NJCoast says:

    Christmas is postponed in the Coast household. Three of us exposed for 2 hours last Friday to somebody who tested positive the next day. She was testing before going to her families’ holiday gathering, she had no symptoms. One of us is vaxxed and boosted, one vaxxed but not boosted, one of us under 5 so not vaxxed. So far home tests negative, will go for PCR on day 5. Will be home free for sure by New Years Eve.

  70. crushednjmillenial says:

    On BBB . . .

    Biden should have picked one social program and ran with it rather than the hodgepodge of social programs in BBB. People don’t know what is in BBB.

    Good options (pick ONE, Mr. Biden) would have been:

    -universal pre-k (fed gov will pay $5,000/year for every enrolled pre-k kid – this may cover the whole cost of the student’s attendance or it may cover a percentage, just depends on how much local schools choose to spend)
    -paid pregnancy leave (a new mother gets one year of unemployment-style pay from the feds. The pay is 60% of her normal pay. Minimum $200/ week. Maximum $500/week. If your state offers benefits, the fed benefits stack on top, up to 80% of your previous pay)
    -student debt forgiveness (fed gov pays $1k of your student loans per year as long as you paid everything on time for the whole calendar year)
    -medicare eligiblity expands downward to age 63 or even 60

    Any one of these programs would be a huge price tag. Still, the American public could understand what the program is about. With a focused approach, I’d believe that there would be more widespread support. Biden could score more political points with a $500B focused package than this diffuse $1.75T package.

    Like, the BBB plan was for “universal” pre-k, which BBB interpreted as the Fed Gov will pay for some pre-k, for some low-income people, in some states, maybe, maybe not, if you wish upon a star. Instead of – every enrolled pre-k kid in a public school in the US gets $x/year funded by the fed gov.

    But, I suppose I am biased in favor of universal and simple social programs rather than all this income-based bureaucrat-hand waving, only for someone but me-style programs.

  71. Grim says:

    Seems like every day the principal sends an email out with Exposure notices.

    Not sure my daughter will make it to Thursday.

  72. crushednjmillenial says:

    but *NEVER* me^

  73. Juice Box says:

    Sill on the hunt for Covid home tests…

    Some dickbag posted this on FB an hour ago…I drive up there no tests all gone won’t have any for days. Has a million? They lady working the counter told me they only had a couple and sold out this morning.

    “I found the home test kit to do at home for 15 minutes ShopRite in Hazlet on Route 35 has a million it’s the one that they use in the doctor’s office $19.99 thank you so much for all you guys answering my question about where to find them I appreciate it Happy Holidays”

  74. Libturd says:

    Abbot Labs test appears on and off at Walmart. We smartly have Walmart plus so free FedEx shipping. $14 for 2. Just keep checking online.

  75. Juice Box says:

    Hahah the ExpressCheck Rapid Covid test at Terminal B or C at Newark Airport is charging $250 bucks per test. What a racket…

    https://www.newarkairport.com/announcements/covid-19-testing

  76. grim says:

    Isn’t that what dinner costs at the Dumpling place in terminal c?

  77. Fast Eddie says:

    “They figured, surely to God, we can move one person, surely we can badger and beat one person, that’s — surely we can get enough protesters to make that person uncomfortable enough,” said Manchin, referring to the waves of protest that he’s encountered from progressive activists in recent months.

    “Well, guess what? I’m from West Virginia,” he said. “I’m not from where they’re from, and they can just beat the living crap out of people and think they’ll be submissive. Period.”

    To think democrats care for the health and well-being of anyone is beyond disgraceful. The left is festering pile of turds, vultures, rats and scoundrels. And then Peppermint Patty steps up to the podium and says people will now die without their insulin because of Joe Manchin. They s.uck.

  78. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Lmao….Manchin is the ultimate troll. He is a republican that calls himself a democrat.

  79. JCer says:

    pumps he has to answer to his constituency, they do not have the same political views as big city democrats. They are effectively blue collar, pro-union, pro energy people. These people are effectively Trump voters, Manchin isn’t about to risk his re-election for Joe Biden.

  80. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Sorry, but the country does not revolve around West Virginia. This guy is not a team player, and is really a hack for special interests. Mainly coal.

  81. The Great Pumpkin says:

    He is only a democrat in name. Like trump was a republican only in name.

  82. The Great Pumpkin says:

    All I care about is that they figure out how to get this salt tax eliminated. It hurts the most productive states in our economy. Aka it’s not smart policy.

  83. Fast Eddie says:

    Sorry, but the country does not revolve around West Virginia.

    Sure, how dare those West Virginians open their mouths. Don’t they know California and New York run the country?

  84. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Tell them to not take money from the FED govt which is predominately sourced from states like New York and California. Let’s ignore the needs of the most productive economies so we can give in to the needs of West Virginia. That’s how we make America great again.

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 20, 2021 at 3:16 pm
    Sorry, but the country does not revolve around West Virginia.

    Sure, how dare those West Virginians open their mouths. Don’t they know California and New York run the country?

  85. Juice Box says:

    Pumps there are 50 other senators not voting for this bill as well. They represent lots of other states too.

  86. grim says:

    Two different classes in my daughter’s school got exposure warnings today. 5th grade and 1st grade, and it’s only Monday.

    I don’t think we make it to Thursday, no way.

    My daughter had a play date scheduled for today, her mom called and cancelled, she just tested positive. Both of the kids were in school today.

    The little one goes back to preschool tomorrow, his whole 2yo class has been out QT, but got a reprieve to come back “early” due to the state rules change.

  87. grim says:

    Whoa! NJ finally published a new variant report, we’re now only 16 days behind.

    https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/12/20/nj-covid-cases-rise-variant-omicron/8970912002/

    Omicron accounted for only 0.2% of more than 2,500 New Jersey specimens that had undergone genomic sequencing, according to a Health Department report released Monday.

    But that data is 16 days old. The last of those specimens were tested on Dec. 4.

    More recent data from Hackensack Meridian Health’s lab showed omicron at about 13% of all the strains the hospital chain sequenced at its laboratory in Nutley, health officials said.

    Gov. Phil Murphy even acknowledged that the state is likely behind in knowing how fast omicron is spreading. “It may well be out of date by the time we report it,” he said at a briefing Monday.

  88. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You know why Manchin did this. Good ol blackmail. Knows how important his vote is and is holding his party hostage to get what he wants.

    Juice Box says:
    December 20, 2021 at 3:42 pm
    Pumps there are 50 other senators not voting for this bill as well. They represent lots of other states too.

  89. Ex says:

    CHARLESTON, W. Va. (WSAZ) — USA Today reported Tuesday that Gayle Manchin, the mother of Mylan CEO Heather Bresch, used her position at the National Association of State Boards of Education (NASBE) to require schools to buy medical devices that fight allergic reactions.

    The USA Today report says the requirement helped Mylan Specialty, the maker of EpiPens, to develop a near monopoly in schools.

    Eleven states drafted laws requiring epinephrine auto-injectors and nearly every other state recommended schools stock them after the “Epipen Law” in 2013 gave funding preference to those who did, according to the article.

    Gayle Manchin was appointed in 2007 to the West Virginia Board of Education by her husband Joe, who was then Governor and is now a senator from West Virginia. Gayle became president-elect of NASBE in late 2010.

  90. 3b says:

    Juice:Maybe if we didn’t ship out all the jobs from the south and the mid west over the last 30 years these ignorant, dirty and ungrateful mid- westerners and southerners might be more productive and we should not have to send them all that money every year from the productive people in the productive states, where more than a few of those people were instrumental in taking away those other peoples livelihoods. I think it’s the least we can do.

  91. The Great Pumpkin says:

    China has no problem helping its population through govt spending. Yet, we hold our population hostage. If govt spending is so bad, why do we fear that China is passing our nation up? The same class that cuts off all govt spending directed at helping people in our nation are the same people selling off american jobs to replace them with cheap foreign labor. So they put these people in bad situations and then cut off any help from the govt to these same people.

    If you are supposedly patriotic and love waving the flag, then why do you turn your back on your fellow citizens when they need help? Pre-school, who needs that, f them. Trying to help the environment for the future, f’k them.

  92. Clown World says:

    The problem I have with the DNC and the GOP is that there is no room for someone that might not agree with the party line. Everyone is up-in-arms about Manchin. It was just assumed that the D next to his name put him in the Yes column. How dare he have a position that runs counter to the party.
    The GOP is exactly the same. Vote with the party or get ostracized. It’s a shame that these master-negotiators in congress can’t sell a piece of legislation across the aisle, right or left.
    We are turning into a majority rules democracy and in a country that is essentially split down the middle politically, that will result in 10’s of millions of pissed off people in the minority.

  93. Ex says:

    Thing is though, he’s corrupt and actually doesn’t represent the people in his state .

  94. PumpkinFace says:

    Tell the nyc metro area not to take money from Jerome Powell and we have a deal.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    December 20, 2021 at 3:28 pm
    Tell them to not take money from the FED govt which is predominately sourced from states like New York and California. Let’s ignore the needs of the most productive economies so we can give in to the needs of West Virginia. That’s how we make America great again.

  95. Grim says:

    He’s mad the NJ republicans could broker such a sweet deal, he wants a big payday for almost heaven West Virginia.

  96. 3b says:

    Netherlands going into shutdown until Jan 14, schools until at least Jan 9th.

  97. Grim says:

    So when we get another 6k print tomorrow, and assume Hackensack’s 13% figure is accurate, we are talking almost 5000 omicron cases in NJ for the week.

  98. Grim says:

    No worries though, NJ says it’s 4 cases.

  99. chicagofinance says:

    Now you can understand how schools can churn out a bunch of tortured communists….

    “They like to think that they have made a lot of headway on college affordability,” said Caitlin Zaloom, an NYU professor of social and cultural analysis whose book, “Indebted,” details the struggles families face in paying for college. “There’s a lot of smoke and mirrors.”

    NYU Tops Ranks—in Debt For Grad Students, Parents

    Pricey Manhattan school leaves many families struggling with loans

    BY MELISSA KORN AND ANDREA FULLER

    Five months after Kassandra Jones earned her master’s in public health from New York University in May 2019, she still hadn’t landed a job in the field. She was staring down a six-figure student-loan balance and had to pay for rent and food.

    So she sold her eggs. Again. Ms. Jones first harvested her eggs before starting at NYU in 2017 to help pay for moving to the city, she said. She received a $12,500 annual scholarship and relied on $131,000 in federal loans to cover the rest of her tuition and expenses. She has given her eggs five times, including to an NYU fertility clinic, earning $50,000.

    Now 28 years old, Ms. Jones is working freelance on public-health campaigns for nonprofits making about $1,500 a month, which isn’t covering her living expenses, she said. She is applying for new jobs and considering leaving the field. “There are definitely moments where that number just looms as this tunnel that doesn’t have a light at the end of it,” she said of her debt. “It feels like I’m kind of trapped.”

    That feeling is familiar to many recent alumni of NYU, which has an ignominious distinction. By many measures, it is the worst or among the worst schools for leaving families and graduate students drowning in debt. Many of its graduate-school alumni earn low salaries, despite their expensive degrees.

    At its core, the debt burden among NYU graduates like Ms. Jones stems from federal Plus loan programs. A number of prestigious private universities point families to the Grad Plus and Parent Plus programs to bridge the gap between high prices and meager scholarships.

    NYU parents and graduate students collectively borrowed $3.4 billion in federal Plus loans over the past decade, more than at any other university in the U.S., public or private, a Wall Street Journal analysis of federal Education Department data found.

    Among the Journal’s findings: NYU skimped on scholarships for needy undergraduates. During the past school year, NYU covered about 62% of undergraduates’ financial need, on average. That was the lowest percentage of any private school with at least a $1 billion endowment that publishes the figures.

    As a result, parents of NYU undergraduates often relied on Plus loans to cover costs. Parents of 2018 and 2019 NYU bachelor’s degree recipients who took out Parent Plus loans borrowed a median $74,000, according to the most recent data. That’s more than at 99% of four-year colleges in the U.S. for which federal data are available.

    For NYU’s graduate students, the university’s advanced degrees often don’t pay off. In 40 out of 49 programs, NYU graduate students who took out federal loans borrowed more than they earned two years out of school. By that measure, NYU had more graduate programs with high debt loads than any other U.S. university with published data. The debt and earnings figures are medians for 2015 and 2016 graduates, the most recent data from the Education Department.

    Many NYU programs were the worst by that calculation. In 15 graduate programs— including music, international relations and education—NYU ranked highest among U.S. universities with published data in terms of debt loads compared with early-career earnings.

    NYU spokesman John Beckman said those numbers don’t reflect progress the school has made since its current president took the helm in 2016 and emphasized affordability initiatives. For instance, he said, NYU has increased its aid budget and is covering full financial need for this fall’s first-year undergraduate class, lowering their potential debt burden and that of their parents.

    The Education Department doesn’t publish data on programs with a small number of graduates. Mr. Beckman said that because NYU has so many large programs, more of its figures are made public and the data put the school “in a disproportionately disadvantageous light.” He also said NYU receives so much Plus money in part because its total enrollment is among the largest in the country, at around 52,000 students.

    NYU says it has tried to put its costs more within reach. It has slowed the growth of undergraduate tuition rates, trimmed its energy use and looked for less expensive suppliers to shave down the budget at the notoriously pricey school in Manhattan’s Greenwich Village, where undergraduate tuition and other costs can top $320,000 over four years. Undergraduate students are borrowing less than $20,000 this year, on average, down from $24,600 in 2016, the school said.

    Many of its solutions to making NYU more affordable put the burden on the students to pinch pennies or find more funds. Among the university’s suggestions: Finish school faster; sign up for a website to find babysitting gigs; live with a senior citizen; eat fewer meals.

    “They like to think that they have made a lot of headway on college affordability,” said Caitlin Zaloom, an NYU professor of social and cultural analysis whose book, “Indebted,” details the struggles families face in paying for college. “There’s a lot of smoke and mirrors.”

    A Wall Street Journal investigation has detailed how some of the nation’s wealthiest schools rely on the easy money of Plus loans. Some have capitalized on their brand-name cachet to expand pricey graduate programs and increase tuition costs, turning the programs into cash cows while leaving students in low-paying fields to take on six-figure debt. Plus loans have become the fastest-growing segment of federal student debt and a particular burden on low-income families.

    The government limits loans to $31,000 for undergraduates who are dependent on their parents. By contrast, graduate students and parents of undergraduates can borrow through Plus loans up to the full cost of attendance. As a result, debts for those borrowers can balloon to hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    Needy students

    NYU administrators say they would like to offer more aid. But the university, one of the most selective in the nation with prestigious programs in law, business, medicine and film, has a “substantially less robust financial base than many of our peers,” said Mr. Beckman.

    It is more dependent on tuition than many others with similar financial means, according to university financial records.

    The school closed out fiscal 2021 with a $5.8 billion endowment, among the largest in the U.S., albeit much smaller than those at Ivy League schools. Last year, NYU’s per-student endowment was roughly $82,000, in the same ballpark as at George Washington University, Baylor University and Boston University, according to an annual survey by an industry group. Among the nearly three-dozen private schools with similar per-student endowments, the median Parent Plus debt was highest at NYU.

    The school said that the neediest students get priority and that the share of scholarship recipients whose parents took out Plus loans fell to 18% from 25% over the past few years. University officials said they increased the average undergraduate scholarship to $48,000 from $30,000 a year in the past five years.

    The Journal’s analysis found that 46% of NYU families who recently borrowed through the federal Parent Plus program were low-income. That is one of the highest rates among wealthy private schools. At about half of such schools—those with a $1 billion endowment or higher— less than a quarter of Parent Plus borrowers came from low-income backgrounds.

    Kimberly Swald is one of them. The single mother of three children said she was earning around $40,000 working for an insurance company near Utica, N.Y., when her son, Demetri Lopez, started school in 2018. She has $34,000 in loans from her own bachelor’s degree and is on track to borrow more than $140,000 in Parent Plus loans to help Mr. Lopez pursue his NYU computer- science degree. Mr. Lopez qualified for a federal Pell grant, which is earmarked for low-income students, and received a $31,400 annual scholarship from NYU. He appealed for more money throughout school, he said, and on occasion received a few thousand dollars more. Still, Mr. Lopez, now a senior, borrowed more than $29,000 in federal loans. He is interning full time while taking a regular course load and said he hoped to help his mother repay the debt.

    “I’m going to die with this debt,” Ms. Swald said, but “I try not to show him how worried I am.”

    She said she tells her son as he nears graduation: “Keep doing well, don’t lose focus.”

    John Sexton, NYU’s president from 2002 through 2015 and now a member of the law faculty, wrote in a 2014 essay that he hoped to move the school’s financial aid “from paltry to acceptable to excellent over time.” He added: “Fortunately, the relative inadequacy of NYU’s financial aid has not discouraged students— even financially challenged students—from choosing NYU.”

    Dr. Sexton declined to comment through a school spokesman, as did his successor and current president, Andrew Hamilton.

    This year, NYU received more than 100,000 undergraduate applications; it admitted just under 13%.

    “Because in New York and across the country students have so many choices, it doesn’t feel wrong to me for NYU to offer a set of programs even with significant cost,” said Ellen Schall, dean emeritus of NYU’s Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service, who now heads a committee Dr. Hamilton formed upon his 2016 arrival to address affordability. “And then we do what we can to offset those costs, where we can.”

    While leading NYU, Dr. Sexton often praised as “industrious” undergraduates who held two or three jobs while in school, saying their actions showed just how much they valued the NYU experience. He wrote in 2014 that he was “ humbled by the sacrifices these students and their families make to seize the opportunities of an NYU education.”

    Finish faster

    One major recommendation from NYU’s affordability committee was to have undergraduates save money by giving up a semester or year of school and finishing early.

    At the time, 20% of NYU students already finished in under four years. The student newspaper said pushing more to follow that timeline was “a gimmicky slap in the face.”

    Emily Miller completed NYU one semester early, in December 2020, but isn’t sure it saved much money. She received a $29,000 annual scholarship to pursue her bachelor’s degree in film. She worked 20 hours a week and dropped her meal plan after freshman year. She applied credits from high-school courses.

    Still, she borrowed $27,400 from the federal government, and her mother, who earns less than $70,000 as a marketing manager in Dallas, took on more than $105,000 in Parent Plus loans. “I don’t want my parents to work until they’re 80,” said Ms. Miller, 22, adding that she regrets putting such a burden on her family. “I made an unwise decision to go to NYU.”

    Debt-earnings gap

    NYU launched a fundraising campaign for financial aid in 2013, ultimately topping its target and raising $1.3 billion.

    A large chunk of the expanded scholarship pool went to students with high earnings prospects. In 2018, NYU announced it would begin covering full tuition for its medical students, regardless of financial need, thanks to a $450 million gift. The medical schools at Columbia University and Cornell University have eliminated loans only for students who qualify for financial aid.

    Bernadette Boden-Albala, who was a senior associate dean at NYU’s School of Global Public Health at the time, and now heads up the public-health program at the University of California, Irvine, said it was great that the medical school could offer free tuition to all its students. She also thought: “What about everybody else?”

    NYU’s 2015 and 2016 public- health graduates who took out federal loans borrowed a median $106,000 for the degree, the Journal’s analysis of Education Department data found; half earned roughly $61,000 or less two years after graduation. That is one of the biggest gaps between debt and early-career earnings of 124 public-health master’s programs with published data, the Journal found. Roughly three-quarters of the programs had a median debt load lower than median earnings.

    “Not everyone seeking an advanced degree is going into a lucrative field, and universities have no control over how our society values particular professions,” said NYU’s Mr. Beckman. He said providing a high-quality education is expensive, no matter whether the field pays graduates well.

    Ms. Schall, who leads NYU’s affordability committee, said a number of its graduate schools have addressed affordability. That includes the business school, which increased scholarships for military veterans, she said, and the law school, which enhanced its loan repayment program for graduates who take on low-paying public-service jobs.

    “It’s sort of a school-by-school effort,” she said, “so it requires more time and more nuance.”

    An NYU master’s in publishing leaves recent graduates with median debt nearly triple that of the school with the next highest loan burden for which the Education Department released data. At NYU, the graduates borrowed a median $116,000 and earned a median $42,000 two years out.

    Amanda Orozco, 29, graduated in 2019 with $157,500 in debt and a publishing job she said paid $36,000. She said the program wouldn’t have been as appealing if the school had been more transparent about graduates’ financial prospects. Her classmates often complained among themselves about the cost, asking, “Where does all this money go?” she said.

    ‘Misplaced Priority’

    Under Dr. Sexton, NYU opened campuses in Shanghai and Abu Dhabi and a network of smaller satellite locations, and it unveiled plans to develop millions of square feet in Manhattan and Brooklyn.

    Jon Ritter, a clinical associate professor of art history and former member of the university senate’s finance committee, said the development projects were “a misplaced priority” that “put other things ahead of addressing student debt.”

    Dr. Sexton drew heat for a program, earlier reported by the New York Times, which provided star faculty and administrators with low-interest and sometimes forgivable loans to buy vacation homes. As of 2013, when the board voted to limit the program to primary residences, the school had $72 million in loans outstanding to 168 individuals.

    Some current and former faculty and administrators said the tenor has changed under Dr. Hamilton, who wrote to NYU students and staff soon after his arrival in 2016 that despite the school’s financial limitations: “We cannot be content with the status quo.”

    He detailed plans to rein in tuition increases and add more low-cost housing options. Still, he said, there was “no magic wand” to solve the affordability problem given the school’s high-cost location and low per-student endowment.

    Dr. Hamilton tapped Ms. Schall to lead the new affordability steering committee, with other members including students, faculty and administrators from across the university. Their task: Solicit ideas, study their feasibility and try to make NYU more affordable for more students.

    Cutting tuition was an unlikely option, as more than half of undergraduates pay full sticker price. From 2016 through 2019, the affordability committee largely came up with suggestions for what students could do to make the math work.

    One initiative the committee pursued was a home-share program that paired graduate students with senior citizens who had spare bedrooms. Only about two dozen students signed up, the university said.

    The committee urged faculty to rethink the number of required books for courses, promoted a Facebook page alerting students to food left over from campus events and publicized links to websites where students could apply for external scholarships. NYU also made it easier for students to pick a smaller meal plan.

    It was a source of some frustration for Erica Silverman, who received her undergraduate and graduate degrees in 2014 and 2017 from NYU and served on the steering committee during its first year. “We can’t only ask students to take steps to change affordability,” she said.

    Ms. Schall said the school wasn’t just pushing students to change their behavior. She said NYU looked at all elements of the cost structure and that its biggest move— limiting tuition increases— didn’t require students to do anything differently.

    The affordability committee hasn’t met since 2019, waylaid by the pandemic, Ms. Schall said. She expects the group to reconvene later this school year.

    The school said it would urge students with financial challenges to talk to its aid office for help. It doesn’t encourage students to donate their eggs to make ends meet, as Ms. Jones has done, said Mr. Beckman, the spokesman: “This is a highly unusual approach.”

    Ms. Jones said that she is considering another egg donation, with money so tight, but the procedures took a toll on her body. The money would cover living expenses, she said, and provide a cushion when loan payments, paused during the pandemic, resume in February. Her income is low enough that she won’t need to make payments, but she worries about the balance ballooning as interest continues to accrue.

    She built a strong network at NYU, Ms. Jones said, and hopes there will be more payoff from her studies if she stays in the public-health sector. But her slow start and unsteady earnings—combined with the debt load that now tops $167,000, including undergraduate loans and interest— raise doubts in her mind, she said: “It just makes the degree seem worthless.”

  100. Grim says:

    Well now we know why we haven’t heard shit.

    Everyone at the CDC should be fired.

  101. Grim says:

    73%

    This makes me furious.

    The Biden administration is worthless.

  102. Grim says:

    Feel like there was a concerted effort to hide this.

    Why was this released the night before Biden’s speech?

  103. The Great Pumpkin says:

    No one wants to hear it, but if Hillary Clinton won in 2016…we would be in much better shape as a country. Trump sent us down a bad path of populism who’s lasting impact is Biden.

    Grim says:
    December 20, 2021 at 6:58 pm
    73%

    This makes me furious.

    The Biden administration is worthless.

  104. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You would never have BLM on steroids. Cancel culture would have never came about. White males would never have become moving targets. You would have all americans working together to beat this pandemic right now, instead it’s divided. Trump really f’ed up this country.

  105. Juice Box says:

    NOWCAST DATA supposed to be released tomorrow, it is current now.

    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions

  106. Clown World says:

    Ex says:
    December 20, 2021 at 5:09 pm
    Thing is though, he’s corrupt and actually doesn’t represent the people in his state .

    Not sure what you know about WV but Donald Trump won the state by 39 points in 2020 general. My guess is Manchin not supporting BBB represents the constituents in WV pretty well. WV is a deep red state.

  107. Clown World says:

    The Manchin saga is the perfect example of why any state that has residents with half a brain should ALWAYS vote for 2 senators from different parties. That way, no matter who holds the majority or the WH, 1 of your senators can extort favors for your state.

    States like NJ are so reliably blue that they only get treats when Team Blue is in power. And we get our teeth kicked in when the Reds are in power (SALT repeal anyone??)
    Imagine the funds you could get in NJ if you had a moderate GOP and moderate Dem in the senate together.

  108. Grim says:

    Wonder how many countries will ban flights from the US tomorrow. We are now the world epicenter.

  109. 3b says:

    Politico ( I don’t know much about this publication) is reporting that Obama told one of the 2020 candidates for President “ never underestimate Biden’s ability to fc@k things up.

  110. BRT says:


    73%

    This makes me furious.

    The Biden administration is worthless.

    .

    Get up, your asleep at the wheel!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQG5mMfN2U

  111. Grim says:

    People are going to overcorrect and we are headed for a shot show…

    “With Omicron looming and DC in disarray, risks to the economic recovery next year are not inconsequential and are rising,” Zandi, the chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, told CNN on Monday.

    Moody’s Analytics will most likely downgrade its US economic forecast in the coming days, Zandi said in a phone interview, due to the one-two punch from the worsening pandemic and Senator Joe Manchin’s opposition to Build Back Better.

  112. Frostfan says:

    Grim,

    For some of us over with kids at Fallon, we didn’t make it :(

  113. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Meanwhile we get nothing from corporations, instead we give them huge tax breaks.

    “Although the meeting details weren’t disclosed, they were reportedly there to sign the new economic deal, which committed Apple to “aiding roughly a dozen causes favored by China.” In addition, Apple also pledged to help Chinese manufacturers develop “the most advanced manufacturing technologies” and “support the training of high-quality Chinese talents.”

    Further, Apple also promised to sign certain deals with Chinese software firms, invest in more Chinese tech companies, assist with research in Chinese universities, build more retail stores and research and development facilities, and spearhead new renewable energy projects.”

    https://www.idropnews.com/news/tim-cook-made-a-275-billion-secret-deal-with-china-five-years-ago/175038/?utm_source=tapp&utm_medium=tapp&utm_campaign=12172021&utm_term=tapp

  114. Bystander says:

    While I disagree with Manchin, I won’t throw him to the garbage like sick cult did to McCain, a strong politician and war hero who Orange clown insulted at every turn. The liar in chief and his R cronies had no health plan and that vote was simply a sad, pathetic attempt at hurting Obama. There is a huge difference as the Rs can’t lead as party empty of ideas, without a soul, clinging to Jesus freaks, gun nuts, racists and rich tax avoiders as constituents. The low educated crowd who swallow lies about tax cuts bringing back American jobs and 6% GDP while their wealthy rich overlords reap more then fight wage increases. BBB is a sweeping, expensive legislation that offers alot of needed things but it is also full of bloat. Add the end of day, this is about taxing rich more and there are many dems who take the rich money as well to ensure they keep it all. Manchin and Sinema are enemies 1 &2 for Dems but wonder who else would come out of woodwork in D party to scuttle tax increase on wealthy. They are taking fall/blame/heat now. Must be a reason for it.

  115. Bystander says:

    I also find it laughable regarding the political attacks on Harris. She is a freaking VP. What were the bookends of Pence’s illustrious 4 years? I think it was being laughed at for not attending dinners when other women present in fear of angering Jesus then the fly landing on his head. Oh wait, he also walked out of a football game for kneeling..what a real patriot. The attacks on her are simply because the R press does not know if she will be president or running in 2024 so must do everything to destroy her brand. I have never seen a VP under more attack in my life. Not that I ever like her but this is absurdly over the top.

  116. Chicago says:

    By: I disagree. Harris is truly awful. A gaffe machine, entitled, and has an annoying voice and demeanor. She is easy to dislike.

  117. Bystander says:

    Chi – I agree as I found her kind of nasty and abrasive but that is different story. Just wondering why the media gives such a flying sh&t and follows her around. It is attack attack. No VP has been scrutinized like her, in my memory.

  118. Fast Eddie says:

    No VP has been scrutinized like her, in my memory.

    No VP has displayed this level of arrogance and combativeness. No VP cackles and shuns her job at every turn. No VP has shown this level of contempt and annoyance when asked to answer a question. She’s illustrating exactly who she is and why she is not up to the task. She has no leadership skills. She’s a token, a symbol, just like the democrat party itself. They’re symbols, mottos and slogans. When real things need to be addressed, they have no idea what to do. And, of course, on cue, their defense is to deflect their failures and blame someone or something else… no matter how small and meaningless… as long as they can move on to their next rallying cry.

  119. Fast Eddie says:

    The low educated crowd who swallow lies about tax cuts bringing back American jobs and 6% GDP while their wealthy rich overlords reap more then fight wage increases.

    Those tax cuts lead to my promotion, a 120% bonus, a haughty raise, a one-time bonus and investments in research that lead to an acquisition by a global 50 firm. I know others who experienced the same because of those tax cuts. But keep listening to MSNBC because they’ll tell you the “real” story. More taxes keep the muppets sated and dulled just long enough to pull the lever and get another pellet from the “compasionate” democrats.

  120. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Please save the sanctimonious bullshlt. I could create a caricature of the left that would be far harsher than soulless gun nuts.

    BBB died because it was another pie in the sky leftist wishlist. We’ve seen enough of their ideas over the past 12 months and they are destructive. Owed to the Marxist ideology inspiring them.

  121. BRT says:

    Are you really complaining they didn’t give Pence any attention or negative stories? They were 100% laser focused on Trump.

  122. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Say thank you to the ultra productive 7 blue states that made it all happen by not getting a tax cut and instead paying for it.

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 21, 2021 at 7:58 am
    The low educated crowd who swallow lies about tax cuts bringing back American jobs and 6% GDP while their wealthy rich overlords reap more then fight wage increases.

    Those tax cuts lead to my promotion, a 120% bonus, a haughty raise, a one-time bonus and investments in research that lead to an acquisition by a global 50 firm. I know others who experienced the same because of those tax cuts. But keep listening to MSNBC because they’ll tell you the “real” story. More taxes keep the muppets sated and dulled just long enough to pull the lever and get another pellet from the “compasionate” democrats.

  123. grim says:

    Is Fauci just fucking with us now?

    “At least considered, no decisions yet, about the possibility of if you do have someone who’s infected, rather than keeping them out for seven to 10 days, if they are without symptoms, put an N95 mask on them, make sure they have the proper PPE, and they might be able to get back to work sooner than the full length of the quarantine period,” Fauci said.

    Asked again if there was at least a consideration for changing the recommendation and reducing it from 10 days, Fauci said, “Yes. There is a consideration. It’s being discussed.”

  124. Frostfan says:

    Chi – I agree as I found her kind of nasty and abrasive but that is different story. Just wondering why the media gives such a flying sh&t and follows her around. It is attack attack. No VP has been scrutinized like her, in my memory.

    Well, if the media is gonna kiss Joe’s ass in public and not ask him any real questions in the rare times he comes out of his bunker or doesn’t walk away immediately after talking, they’re going to take it out of someone and Harris makes it real easy since she doesn’t actually do anything. Now, VP usually don’t do anything but they put her out front and center on the border issue and that meant absolutely nothing except saying months later, they’re still looking for the root causes.

  125. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just say that your money matters more than funding innovation to support renewal energy (aka true energy independence) and god forbid we throw some bones to support our fellow americans not making money off this stock market or housing market. God forbid we help support pre k education. I know…I know…we want tax cuts for corporations and increased military spending along with our gun rights. F/k the infrastructure and social needs of our country.

    BidenIsTheGOAT says:
    December 21, 2021 at 8:15 am
    Please save the sanctimonious bullshlt. I could create a caricature of the left that would be far harsher than soulless gun nuts.

    BBB died because it was another pie in the sky leftist wishlist. We’ve seen enough of their ideas over the past 12 months and they are destructive. Owed to the Marxist ideology inspiring them.

  126. Bystander says:

    Ed,

    Your story is your story. I knocked it out of park with Dodd Frank and FATCA by Obama for several years because banks had to implement (ie invest quickly; not farm to India) The facts are most firms took the money and pocketed it or did buybacks. Again, you can’t point to one economic number that shows Ryan’s cut did a thing. Where was the great GDP bump?

  127. 3b says:

    Bystander: Harris is scrutinized because she could be the President if Biden can’t finish his first term, and is the presumptive candidate for President in 2024.

    She was at the absolute bottom of the pack when she ran for President, and her campaign imploded before Iowa.

    She is clueless on every topic and her arrogance and ignorance is stunning. Her top aides are leaving less than a year into the administration. Harris was chosen as a check the box candidate, nothing more.

    Juice seems to think Biden is running in 2024, I don’t see it, but if he does I don’t see him choosing Harris again. If he does not run again, it would be Harris as candidate, but Dems know she won’t win. Now it appears they don’t know how to get rid of her.

  128. grim says:

    Is there even precedent for a presidential candidate switching VPs? Seems unlikely to me, would open the campaign up to some serious attacks.

  129. Bystander says:

    Goat,

    You are a party of zero ideas. Obstruction and tax breaks…own it. You cling to being party of patriots and veterans but lest we forget your Orange clown vetoed final military bill on may out, denying raises to our military. Who are your future sane leaders? Please tell us. We all know who the lunatic party is biding time for..cult.

  130. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – setting aside whatever good the BBB might do the tax breaks are not warranted. We spent 2.7 Trillion more than we took in this year. We spent 3.1 Trillion more than we took in last year. National debt is now approaching 30 Trillion, and increase at the rate of a $1 million dollars a minute.

    You don’t think this is a problem?

    They should raise taxes an additional 5 percent tax rate to all taxable income, and not spend any of it. Pay down the debt. But even that 5 percent would only generate $6 trillion in revenue over 10 years, that is just what we spent in the last two.

    And if they want more money to spend on infrastructure projects they could raise another trillion in 10 years by eliminating the home mortgage interest deduction.

    We could very well be headed into another lockdown again due to Covid, they are going to need to spend Trillions again and it won’t be for daycare, it will be to pay people not to work again and stay home in lockdown.

    The only solution seems to be the printing press these days…they can raise taxes on JUST the rich but reality is there simply is not enough tax money to pay for these projects and pay down the debt. So instead we go to the printing press at the FED. It’s not sustainable. The people doing this will be dead and out of politics when the bill comes due. The children will look back and say why? There will be no answers as dead people cannot talk.

  131. Juice Box says:

    In Modern history Roosevelt did it twice. Roosevelt’s first vice president was John Nance Garner, he was replaced in 1936 with Henry Wallace, then later Roosevelt replaced him in 1940 with Harry Truman.

  132. 3b says:

    Grim: I don’t believe so, and I don’t recall any VP stepping aside at least in modern times. But if Joe runs , which I don’t think he will, he won’t want although may have no choice but to accept Harris. If he does not , then Harris would be the candidate for President, but won’t win in my mind, and I believe the Dems know that.

    So how to get rid of her, without her putting up an ugly fight, and saying its based on her gender and race? I don’t know. Maybe a nice ambassadorship in Europe? She’s never been there.

  133. Phoenix says:

    Phoenix,

    You would have liked ExPat. You are sounding more and more like him every day.

    I remember Ex. Never had the pleasure of meeting him though.

    Hey, where’d Left Wing go?

    I asked this weeks ago. Hope he is okay.

    Isn’t Costa Rica sounding really nice right about now?

    Sounded good years ago.

  134. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    I don’t believe in collectivist or government control if that’s what you mean by” ideas “. More Government isn’t the solution.

    Why are you worrying about ego the rights candidate will be? They will have a group of serious and qualified people attempting to lead. Can’t say the same of the left. Cadavers and addictive affirmative action it looks like to me.

  135. 1987 Condo says:

    VPs were replaced often in US history as running mates.

    Also, Agnew resigned in office , was replaced by Ford by Nixon. Ford became President when Nixon resigned and picked Rockerfeller as VP. So we had unelected President and VP

  136. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    And sorry, the Democrat party is now the party of neocons and coastal elites. Most of the lobbyist benefits are tilted toward them. Refresh your talking points.

  137. Phoenix says:

    Harris:

    And I know I have posted this before. S&^t eating grin. Arrogant, narcissistic attorney.

    One look at her face and you knew it was all about her ego. Cheshire cat grin.

    No humility. The type that makes me vomit after vomiting all day.

    Just goes to show you how far Trump went off the rails. If he wasn’t such a total wack job this cretin and the bag of bones she calls President wouldn’t have gotten elected.

    I don’t know what Pumpy and his cohorts have done for the last 30 years, but if this is what educated people choose to elect just let China end it now for God’s sake.

  138. Fast Eddie says:

    Democrats turn to gossip columns and picture tabloids to see what the latest outrage is and tailor their campaign accordingly. The attention span of lesser muppets is fleeting and they try to capture it like a five year old capturing fire flies in a jar.

  139. Juice Box says:

    There have been primary challengers to the sitting president for re-election. Gerald Ford came very close to losing the party nomination to Reagan in 1976. Ted Kennedy gave Carter a fight in 1980.

    LBJ announced he would not run again in 1968…The Democrats thought they would lose and they did anyway with their candidate Humphrey. Even New Jersey voted for Nixon…

  140. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    If they are going to raise taxes, then raise taxes on all states equally. Don’t raise the taxes on 7 states to give a tax break to the rest. That’s beyond f/ed up, esp when it is a double tax. Only trump would push a double tax. Making someone pay a tax on the taxes paid to the state. Beyond f/ed up. Of course, he gives himself a tax break.

  141. Phoenix says:

    Maybe it’s because of the field I work in but when I look at our “President” all I see is a walking animated brain dead Q-Tip.

  142. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Remember when people used to say that shrub was born on third and thought he hit a triple? What about Kamala? How the worm turns.

  143. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Getting my roof done on my rental today. Fortunate to get a 10,400 price. It’s two roofs and also replacing ceiling where there was a leak from the second floor roof. Others wanted 26k. Was the same company I dropped 30k on in 2011 with the siding and new front door entrance. So maybe because of customer loyalty they didn’t rape me like the other company quotes that were taking advantage of the pandemic climate. Good luck if you need your roof done, hope you know someone.

    About 80,000 thrown into the house since I bought it. At least all the major work is almost done. Just two more boilers and driveway eventually. Other two boilers were replaced.

  144. Phoenix says:

    Pumpy,
    You are living large. When was the last time you worked a weekend- when you were 19?

    Gold plated pension and health benefits. Swanky house in haughty Wayne NJ?

    Renters putting cash in your pocket every month. You are rich.

    Pay your taxes like everyone else, except the Corps of America.

  145. 3b says:

    Juice: I stand corrected on the VP, did not know that with Roosevelt.

  146. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My brother and I gutted the first floor ourselves. So would even be higher than 80k.

  147. nomad says:

    BRT,

    You have a good command of science, re: Biden & Omicron, if you were an advisor to him, what would your advice to him have been, 1- a few days ago and 2- a few weeks ago.

  148. Phoenix says:

    And sorry, the Democrat party is now the party of neocons and coastal elites

    You mean like Republican Norcross?

  149. Libturd says:

    Left Wing texted me. All is good.

    I’m guessing he’s sick of the non-stop left vs. right that frequently occurs here. Who know.

    Personally, I was against the Trump Tax Plan as well as much of the BBB. We all know the green stuff is where the payback to campaign contributors was going to occur. We also know that there is no way Manchin could vote for it as West Virginia is the second largest coal producer in the country. Want the bill to pass? Put in some carve outs so Manchin can save face. Though it’s an excuse on Manchin’s part. We don’t have money to waste anymore.

  150. 3b says:

    1987: Understand, the examples you note are different though then this situation, where you have a VP who I believe thinks should be President, being asked to step aside because she is awful but zero self awareness. I don’t see how they do it without a huge fight.

  151. grim says:

    Want the bill to pass? Put in some carve outs so Manchin can save face. Though it’s an excuse on Manchin’s part. We don’t have money to waste anymore.

    This is exactly what Manchin is waiting for, is he not? This is all a show to be able to bring back bags of money to his constituents.

  152. Libturd says:

    As for Harris.

    She is a token. Probably arranged by Pelosi in exchange for the church endorsements (huge black vote) that swung the election to Biden in South Carolina. Harris cockiness does not bother me. It’s her lack of pedigree that I have an issue with.

  153. Libturd says:

    As for Harris.

    She is a token. Probably arranged by Pelosi in exchange for the church endorsements (huge black vote) that swung the election to Biden in South Carolina. Harris c0ckiness does not bother me. It’s her lack of pedigree that I have an issue with.

  154. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Exactly right, 4 years of Trump lunacy and all the Dems can offer is Biden/ Harris. Seriously?? I know friends who torture themselves trying to defend those two and ultimately end up admitting they are awful.

    It’s perfectly fine for Dems to criticize Biden/ Harris and not comparing to Trump. No one in either party on the horizon in 2024. It is what it is.

  155. Juice Box says:

    Lib – There are only 11,418 people working in Coal Mining these days in West Virgina. That is not allot of votes, and he is not up for re-election this year either.

    Could it possibly be the senator is actually against the massive underfunded spending and worried about inflation? They all should be….There are consequences.

  156. Libturd says:

    Polls said slightly less than half of West Virginians supported the bill. I’m sure some people don’t want to spend the money.

  157. Juice Box says:

    Biden committed to picking a woman. It was down to Kamala Harris, Susan Rice, Elizabeth Warren or Gretchen Whitmer. So scratch Warren due to her fake ancestry and scratch Whitmer because she is too white.

    Why did he pick Harris over Rice? Perhaps first name only? Susan not black enough? Who really knows what was going through Biden’s brain.

  158. grim says:

    NJ’s free covid test kits program got taken for a ride.

    Spit tests? 48hrs? UPS? You need a Zoom call with a Vault practitioner to take the test?

    How much is that costing us vs. a DIY lateral flow?

  159. Phoenix says:

    We don’t have money to waste anymore.

    This is America. We always have money to waste, as long as it’s not our own.

    They will take the laces out of your kids hand me down shoes and find a way to waste it or steal it.

    Don’t forget, America’s foundation was slavery and treachery. We really haven’t strayed all that far from the original plan, just outsourced it a bit.

  160. Phoenix says:

    Grim,

    All they want is some of your DNA for a database.

    Send in some of your cat’s saliva.

  161. Fast Eddie says:

    Who really knows what was going through Biden’s brain.

    Ice cream, choo choo trains and carnival music.

  162. Juice Box says:

    Our town is running PCR tests at the train station for a while now, every Tuesday and Thursday, they keep posting it on Facebook etc. It cost $150 dollars out of pockets unless you are symptomatic aka “medically necessary” otherwise they are billing your insurance.

    Here are the billing codes for Blue Cross, I don’t know why they need so many codes for one simple PCR test.

    Code Description
    U0001 CDC testing laboratories to test patients for SARS-CoV-2
    U0002 Non-CDC laboratory tests for SARS-CoV-2/2019-nCoV (COVID-19)
    U0003 Infectious agent detection by nucleic acid (DNA or RNA); severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) (Coronavirus disease [COVID-19]), amplified probe technique, making use of high throughput technologies as described by CMS-2020-01-R.
    U0004 2019-nCoV Coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2/2019-nCoV (COVID-19), any technique, multiple types or subtypes (includes all targets), non-CDC, making use of high throughput technologies as described by CMS-2020-01-R.
    86328 Immunoassay for infectious agent antibody(ies), qualitative or semi-qualitative, single step method (e.g., reagent strip): severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) (Coronavirus disease [COVID-19]); Represents a simple single-step test, often used as a point-of-care test, that could be done in a physician office setting
    86769 Antibody; severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) (Coronavirus disease [COVID-19]); Represents a multi-step method test, likely to be done by an independent lab or hospital
    87635 Infectious agent detection by nucleic acid (DNA or RNA); severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) (Coronavirus disease [COVID-19]), amplified probe technique
    99000 Handling and/or conveyance of specimen for transfer from the office to a laboratory
    99001 Handling and/or conveyance of specimen for transfer from the patient in other than an office to a laboratory (distance may be indicated)
    G2023 Specimen collection for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) (Coronavirus disease [COVID-19]), any specimen source
    G2024 Specimen collection for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) (Coronavirus disease [COVID-19]), from an individual in a skilled nursing facility or by a laboratory on behalf of a home health agency, any specimen source

  163. Juice Box says:

    They thought they had Manchin bought off already too Biden appointed his wife to a nice no show high paying job running the Appalachian Regional Commission (ARC), a high paying $163,000 federal job, then they added in $1B for her commission to dole out in the BBB bill.

    This kind of thing should be outlawed. No question. This is the essence of what goes on down in the swamp known as Washington DC.

  164. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Eddie. Lol.

  165. 1987 Condo says:

    Lincoln switched out Hannibal Hamlin as VP in first term for Andrew Johnson in second term. That did not work out well

  166. Bystander says:

    Coastal elites? That is hilarious coming from King Oompa loompa supporters.

  167. Bystander says:

    Dumpy’s brain is like inception except each level is him watching himself jerk off into 100 dollar bill.

  168. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My nephew is positive (wayne schools).

    Great, my sister went to two weddings this week and I sat at both tables.

  169. Ex says:

    Bill O’Reilly has revealed that he had to console Donald Trump after he was booed by his own supporters for getting a vaccine booster shot. Trump told MAGA fans that he’d had his COVID-19 booster during Sunday’s final stop on the “History Tour” he co-headlined with the disgraced ex-Fox News star. The revelation prompted a chorus of boos and jeers from anti-vaxxers in the crowd. In an interview with Dan Abrams on NewsNation, O’Reilly said Trump phoned him after the event and was apparently hurt by the reaction. “I told him that today, he called me,” said O’Reilly. “I said ‘This is good for you, this is good that people see another side of you, not a political side, you told the truth, you believe in the vax, your administration did it, and you should take credit for it, because it did save, I don’t know, hundreds of thousands of lives.’” The ex-Fox News star later said Trump that will definitely run in 2024, telling Abrams: “I’m trying to tell President Trump, run on your record. He’s going to run again, all right.”

  170. chicagofinance says:

    Eddie: maybe you want to scratch off any consideration for NC in the relo? Not that it was really an option….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZtRma42Xkg

  171. Fast Eddie says:

    ChiFi,

    As far comedians go, I just never really got that guy. He’s okay but not laugh out loud funny to me. As for relocating to NC, it’s still a bit on the radar but first preference would be Nashville or surrounding area.

  172. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The mantra of “thinking and investing for the long term” is a well-touted investment principle, yet rarely ever put into practice. It’s also a rule that is most commonly broken in the tech sector, where investors choose their stocks primarily based on momentum and rarely based on fundamentals and value.

    So when the great growth correction of 2021 happened in the fourth quarter this year, while many stocks certainly deserved a small correction and a breather in valuations, many high-quality names got knocked down multiple pegs far more than their fundamentals justify. In this bucket is Palantir (PLTR), the big data analytics powerhouse which has seen a tremendous correction in its share price despite a business that has never looked healthier.

    Perhaps alone among high-profile software IPOs, Palantir has had a very rocky trading journey since going public last October. Palantir took a while to get off the ground, as investors worried early on that the lack of an insider lockup period would pressure Palantir’s ability to rally. The stock did end up rallying and peaked near $40 in mid-February, before proceeding to trade in a very jagged and choppy fashion throughout the rest of the year, including a ~30% decline since November alongside other tech growth stocks.

    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4476170-palantir-stock-buy-the-dip-before-year-end

  173. 3b says:

    Fast: I still don’t see you outside of NJ.

  174. Libturd says:

    Seeking Alpha. Where morons write for other morons.

  175. Fast Eddie says:

    Ex,

    Still can’t get over that blinding Trump light, ey? Still in some sort of epic denial or anger or some distorted, deranged affliction that makes you people eligible for treatment, I see. I try not to laugh as mental illness is really not funny but we all know that believing in liberal dreams IS a mental illness and that alone is… well… funny. Is it that your side has been failing miserably for so long or that a non-politician in Trump actually got things done? No need to answer… you and your ilk are very entertaining in a 6-year-old-tantrum kinda way.

  176. Fast Eddie says:

    3b,

    I’m getting older… lol. The thing that is irking me the most is the blatant disregard that we’re going to keep ponying money up to live here without any recourse. If you travel from Clifton to Montvale and back on the Parkway alone, that’s $5.10. That’s f.ucking criminal. Add the property taxes and every bleeding expense all to supply six-digit salaries and pensions is a criminal act. Even if I can afford it, it’s not justified. It’s just not worth it anymore. Forget about the f.ucking phonies with the rainbow lawn signs, the cost (extortion) alone is unforgivable.

  177. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You nailed it. You are getting older. Soon you will be crying about the costs of everything.

    I would recommend that you just enjoy the rest of your life and not worry about stuff you can’t control. Unless you are running to an undeveloped country like Costa Rica with Lib, you are not going to find anything cheap in America. It’s just not going to happen.

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 21, 2021 at 11:21 am
    3b,

    I’m getting older… lol. The thing that is irking me the most is the blatant disregard that we’re going to keep ponying money up to live here without any recourse. If you travel from Clifton to Montvale and back on the Parkway alone, that’s $5.10. That’s f.ucking criminal. Add the property taxes and every bleeding expense all to supply six-digit salaries and pensions is a criminal act. Even if I can afford it, it’s not justified. It’s just not worth it anymore. Forget about the f.ucking phonies with the rainbow lawn signs, the cost (extortion) alone is unforgivable.

  178. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just please don’t waste the rest of your life being some bitter old man crying about the price of everything.

  179. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Pretty good article, imho. Of course anything tech, you blow off. You are like Buffet. Dude is lost in the woods with his bias towards tech innovation. That’s how he has been passed up by all the tech investors over the past 20 years. He had a huge pile of cash, but they all passed him up investing in growth as opposed to value. At least he finally jumped on the apple train. It’s funny, he was good friends with Bill Gates, but he never invested in microsoft…that’s laughable.

    Libturd says:
    December 21, 2021 at 11:13 am
    Seeking Alpha. Where morons write for other morons.

  180. 3b says:

    Fast: NJ is not a retirement friendly state. My kids are in the area although not all in NJ but close. All of our friends and family are here. And my wife’s Mom just went into assisted living/ memory care right over the border in Rockland bought her over fro NYC. So I don’t see it on our end relocating anywhere far.

    I feel more for the young people in this state and the country in general, getting shafted left and right.

    As for fees/tolls I agree it’s extortion. My Aunt went into assisted living in Riverdale in the Bronx a few months ago. 16 bucks on the bridge, and 3.75 each way on the Henry Hudson Pkwy to go a little over 2 miles. So almost 24 bucks to travel 14 miles and expect about an hour to get there on a good day! Yes we are so privileged to live here , we should be happy to pay!!

  181. Phoenix says:

    “Even if I can afford it, it’s not justified.”

    Now imagine how you would feel if you couldn’t afford it.

    Ahhh, the picture becomes clearer.

  182. Phoenix says:

    NJ is not a friendly state.

    Fixed that for you.

  183. Phoenix says:

    “Just please don’t waste the rest of your life being some bitter old man crying about the price of everything.”

    Is this what you say to your tenants?

  184. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Thanks Jerome, Thanks corporate America, thanks corrupt old politicians, thanks Boomer!!

  185. Libturd says:

    “Now imagine how you would feel if you couldn’t afford it.”

    You see, this is where you err. It’s a great state for those who can’t afford it. Amazing schools with amazing facilities. East to obtain section 8 housing. Every break you could ever think of for the family who brings in under 150K a year. Bring in under 75K and pretty much everything is free. For the record. In the mid 90s, I lived a pretty decent life with under 19K of income in Clifton. Sure, I had two roommates, but I was easily able to live comfortably.

  186. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Phoenix,

    Unfortunately, tenants are only good at one thing…complaining. You have to be a landlord to understand. Tenants can be downright nasty individuals. Like the text I got this morning crying to me about the noise from working on the roof. Oh, I’m sorry, didn’t it keep you from sleeping till 10 in the morning. Must be nice.

  187. 3b says:

    Lib: We lived a very comfortable life on one income in a blue ribbony town, for years while my kids were young, and it was not that long ago.

  188. Hold my beer says:

    Isn’t manchins daughter the ceo of a ph@rma company? I thought there were some prescription cost caps in BBB?

  189. Chicago says:

    WTF? Great growth correction? Such naïve newbie’s nonsense.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    December 21, 2021 at 11:06 am
    So when the great growth correction of 2021 happened in the fourth quarter this year, while many stocks certainly deserved a small correction and a breather in valuations, many high-quality names got knocked down multiple pegs far more than their fundamentals justify.

  190. BoomerRemover says:

    Getting nervous. Kind of wanted to pull my kid from private kindergarten beginning of week but I guess I’ll let them stay through Thursday’s pajama party.

    On the health front, my wife and I and the kiddo have been in a constant state of sickness since late October. Every other week it’s soemone spiking a fever, my kid with four week long sick nasal congestion and just a trail of negative covid tests.

    It’s a mess out there. Local testing facilities booking 7+ days out at this point.

  191. D-FENS says:

    Anecdotal but…lots of reports of positive cases of covid at my current employer. The recurring theme is that most were shocked…as it seemed to them just like a mild cold.

  192. D-FENS says:

    https://nj1015.com/new-jersey-population-is-shrinking-census-bureau-estimates/

    TRENTON – New Jersey’s population is shrinking, according to new Census Bureau estimates issued Tuesday, due partly to decreasing immigration and more deaths partly because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

    The state also continues to experience population losses among residents moving from state to state, though that net loss has actually declined by roughly half from what had been its recent level.

    The state population as of July 1, 2021 was estimated at 9,267,130. That’s down 12,613 from mid-2020, the ninth-biggest loss among the 50 states and Washington, D.C., though in percentage terms the loss was bigger in 11 states and D.C.

    New Jersey’s estimated population is down 21,864, or 0.24%, from the official 2020 Census count that reflects April 1, 2010.

  193. Hold my beer says:

    Pumps

    At the bottom of the article is things he thinks may help and things to avoid for Covid

    https://www.drweil.com/health-wellness/body-mind-spirit/disease-disorders/covid-19-what-you-should-know-about-coronavirus/

  194. Trick says:

    Boomer, I was down for two weeks. 2 negative tests, wasn’t until I got on antibiotics did it start to go away.

  195. chicagofinance says:

    Ex: hope you get better soon; the great Pumps ascending to the sky……
    https://youtu.be/R4com4F494E?t=104

  196. BoomerRemover says:

    Our pediatrician doesn’t like to write scripts unless necessary but I think at this point I may go back to her, plop down the five year old meatball and say “just fix it”.

  197. 3b says:

    Credit Suisse says considerable risk that US and large parts of Europe will need Covid lockdowns this winter.

  198. Juice Box says:

    Seems the numbers in NJ are climbing..

    6,840 new positive PCR tests
    1,911 new positive antigen tests

    https://covid19.nj.gov/

  199. Ex says:

    1:20 He dominates on that one. Just gorgeous.
    I am on the mend.

  200. Ex says:

    Gary, your love of the orange predator is pathetic.
    He disgusts me on every level possible.

  201. Phoenix says:

    Section 8 and living with roommates is great?

    Sounds almost like living in prison.

  202. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Team red players bash people worrying about the virus and getting a vaccine for a death rate under 1%, but they have no problem making an article bashing a blue state for a decrease in population by 0.24%. Hey everyone, the sky is falling because the population dropped by 22,000 during a pandemic. Nj101.5 is a joke. It really is.

    “New Jersey’s estimated population is down 21,864, or 0.24%, from the official 2020 Census count that reflects April 1, 2010.”

  203. Phoenix says:

    3b

    Define one income? Married to a neurosurgeon, a teacher, or a cashier at Walmart?

  204. Phoenix says:

    Ex

    He glows like the 🔥 in California. What’s not to like?

  205. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Speaking from a professional level, all my friends family people I worked with late 80s early to mid 90s , most were one income.

  206. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    Simple answer. They paid people more. Less profits due to people making a decent wage. We didn’t have wage inflation since the 7o’s. All of the growth in productivity went to investors. It’s finally coming back around. You have to remember, the boomers created a huge supply of workers. Way more supply of workers than jobs. So the market took advantage. Now that is changing as the boomers leave the workforce with not enough people to replace them. So you will see people getting paid more and more for the same exact job. Look at walmart or amazon jobs, they used to help lower the wages, now they are the companies responsible for driving them up as they can’t find enough workers.

    Demographics is everything, yet no one pays attention to it.

  207. BRT says:

    ok, so now 20% of my school tested positive. A bunch are sick at home with no test. This thing basically got the entire building. You can chalk up another direct exposure to me. That’s 7 days straight of nonstop breathing in plumes of covid. PCR came back negative.

  208. BRT says:

    the lack of population growth should be alarming to you. It means whatever ponzi schemes this state is running, they are on borrowed time.

  209. Ex says:

    My favorite Trump moment:

    President Donald Trump returned to the White House on Monday evening after being treated for Covid-19 for three days at Walter Reed Medical Center — and immediately took off his mask to pose for pictures before walking in.

    The highly choreographed moment on the Truman Balcony came hours after Trump suggested online that the disease is not that serious a threat.

  210. The Great Pumpkin says:

    BRT,

    I’m in the same boat. I have 3,000 kids at my school. It’s funny, the school still has almost no cases, but the virus is raging. None of these kids go get tested, they just stay home, so they are never listed as a positive case. It’s a joke, but it is what it is.

  211. Phoenix says:

    3b

    Not too many middle class families are buying a house in Blue Ribbonville today on a single income with a SAH parent unless there is some sort of other income such as granny gifting a house.

    Price of housing, tuition, student loans, healthcare- not in the same league as the 80’s

  212. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Ding ding….we have a winner. Now do you realize that we are at war with deflation. The world population growth is almost non existent, and people are in the streets crying about out of control inflation. Talk about being lost in the woods. It’s comical to hear people bash cathie when she says the same thing as I do. Declining population growth combined with deflationary disruptive tech is a recipe for falling prices. A deflationary spiral.

    Embrace inflation while it is still there. I pray the FED can keep it up.

    BRT says:
    December 21, 2021 at 2:31 pm
    the lack of population growth should be alarming to you. It means whatever ponzi schemes this state is running, they are on borrowed time.

  213. 3b says:

    Phoenix: I totally agree with you, I am comparing my day , not that long ago to now, sand house costs 2 to 3 times more and property taxes quadrupled, the house is just older. We are supposed to be moving forward not backwards which is how it appears. Not to pick on a town, but 2 incomes to live in Rochelle Park?? Seriously??

  214. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just found out that Friday didn’t count. Not enough kids. Adding on an extra day of school.

    This place is a joke.

  215. Libturd says:

    5 new cases at our tiny high school.

    Apparently, the entire school 9-12 eats lunch together during the same one lunch period for 30 minutes in the windowless cafeteria.

    I emailed the principal to explain that this is a disaster waiting to happen. He replied, the lunchroom isn’t overcrowded and said the kids could eat outside. No seats or shelter outside (of course).

    Neighbor was throwing out a beautiful portable outside propane heater. She said it wouldn’t stay lit. I bypassed the thermocouple and it worked fine. Opened up the assembly housing and the wire to the thermocouple wasn’t attached fully. It’s a beautiful lamp. Full stainless steel and even has a well constructed cover. It even came with a full tank of propane. Booyah.

  216. Grim says:

    6840 more today

    Another 3rd grade class got hit today.

    2 more days to go.

  217. Clown World says:

    “The Great Pumpkin says:
    December 21, 2021 at 3:28 pm
    Just found out that Friday didn’t count. Not enough kids. Adding on an extra day of school.

    This place is a joke.”

    OMG!!! You and your fellow educators really are hero’s. What movie will you be showing your class on this extra day in late June? I can’t imagine the struggle.

  218. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You are a clown. That’s the only response a loser like you gets. Now go cry about the teachers you little bitch.

  219. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This is the kind of ish people like clown support. Thank god the majority of human beings are not like his punk ass.

    “The trick with “low tax” states is they rely heavily on sales and excise taxes. The option that gives the poor the most burden. If they don’t tax their high earners, they don’t deserve a deduction. itep.org/whopays/

    #UncapSALT

    https://twitter.com/saltcap1/status/1473101987931693058?s=21

  220. Ex says:

    4:23 attaboy – i love a good trash pick

  221. Juice Box says:

    Tweet storm from Bill Gates predicting the worst wave so far

    https://twitter.com/BillGates

  222. Juice Box says:

    Sure lets announce home testing for everyone three days before Christmas.Way to go Brandon… Meanwhile I just drove to three Walmart, two CVS and one Walgreens looking for home tests. None anywhere to be found..

  223. BRT says:

    Juice, I obtained 5 packs of 2 last week but that was after driving around for 2 hours. The increasing in tests is a joke. By the time we get them, it’s going to be spring and over.

  224. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Well said. Nothing pushy, just telling it how it is. Nice job for once.

    “Biden urged vaccinations and boosters
    Biden said that the ability to fight off the omicron variant largely rests on people getting vaccinated and he blasted those spreading misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines on social media and cable TV.
    “We should all be concerned about omicron, but not panic,” he said.
    To those wondering if they can safely celebrate the holidays with family and friends, Biden said, “The answer is yes, you can” — as long as everyone has been vaccinated. And he said those who have not gotten boosters and are eligible should do so. He received the booster, he said, and he pointed to comments by former President Trump that he, too, had been boosted.
    “May be one of the few things he and I agree on,” Biden said.
    Biden did not announce new restrictions on schools or businesses, but he defended his mandate that large employers require workers to get vaccinated or tested, or face dismissal.”

  225. Ex says:

    Shoutout to my Tempurpedic. Damn it’s comfy.
    That is all.

  226. BRT says:

    Tempurpedic is a thermal sensitive material whos structural integrity weakens with temperature. I find it’s not supportive enough after about 15 minutes due to body heat transfer. That being said, a neat thing to do is put it outside on a 30 degree day. It becomes a brick. And you slowly sink into it.

  227. Ex says:

    There is something about that works for me.
    Even if I don’t have to sleep outside professor.

  228. Ex says:

    There is I think a limit to its give.
    You do sink in a little but the way the weight
    is distributed is kind of nice.

  229. Ex says:

    Five people, including a Trump supporter shot by law enforcement and a Capitol police officer, died around the events of 6 January 2021, when a pro-Trump mob stormed Congress after he told supporters to “fight like hell” to overturn his defeat by Joe Biden.

    More than 700 people have been charged with offenses connected to the riot. Most rioters were not armed with guns but attacked police with other weapons. Guns and explosives were found and bombs planted. On Monday, one rioter who attacked police was sentenced to more than five years in jail.

    Trump was impeached for inciting an insurrection but acquitted at his Senate trial when enough Republicans stayed loyal.

    His continued presence in national politics and apparent intention to run for president again has stoked jagged divides which some observers fear point the US towards serious discord or even civil war.

    On Monday night the disgraced former Fox News host Bill O’Reilly, with whom the former president has staged an arena tour, said Trump was “gonna run again”.

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