Electrify the USPS? Might be the dumbest option.

If we want to reduce the carbon footprint and resource consumption of the USPS, ban junk mail instead. It’s that simple. We could probably cut the USPS fossil fuel consumption in half, at NO cost to the taxpayer. Why bother with a discussion about modernizing a typewriter company? Junk mail represents 48% of all mail delivered today. This is the equivalent of us investing in the email infrastructure used to send spam email. This doesn’t even include the positive environmental impact of the reduced paper and trash. Junk mail goes right from my mailbox into my trash, it’s a complete misuse of resources. Fix the junk mail problem first.

From Newsday:

USPS Can’t Buy All-Electric Delivery Fleet Due to Money Woes, DeJoy Says

The U.S. Postal Service can’t yet follow through on its commitment to buying and using an all-electric delivery fleet because of its “dire financial condition,” Postmaster General and USPS Chief Executive Officer Louis DeJoy said in a statementSunday.

Instead, the service is initially ordering 5,000 electric vehicles, with “the flexibility to increase the number of electric vehicles introduced should additional funding become available.”

“Absent such funding, we must make fiscally responsible decisions that result in the needed introduction of safer and environmentally cleaner vehicles for the men and women who deliver America’s mail,” the statement read.

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141 Responses to Electrify the USPS? Might be the dumbest option.

  1. dentss dunnigan says:


  2. dentss dunnigan says:

    looks like the Cuomo boys are in deep do-do

  3. Juice Box says:

    Where are the electric battle tanks, and other military vehicles? Biden better get on that one quick, the US military ranks approximately in the top of carbon emitters worldwide. It releases similar CO2 levels as countries like Portugal and Finland.

  4. Juice Box says:

    Cuomo boys are both done. Perhaps they will both surface in some Podcast/YouTube channel in a year or so shot in the basement of Andrew’s Hamptons house.

  5. grim says:

    Not seeing anything on CNN about it…

  6. Juice Box says:

    You won’t media blackout.

    Cuomo says it was all a setup.


  7. Ex says:

    The Biden administration has hired the first non-binary person to a federal government leadership position, according to Sam Brinton, who will now serve as deputy assistant secretary of spent fuel and waste disposition in the office of nuclear energy for the Department of Energy. Brinton, who uses the pronouns they/them, said in a post on LinkedIn that they believe they will be the ‘first gender fluid person in federal government leadership.’ ‘In this role I’ll be doing what I always dreamed of doing, leading the effort to solve the nation’s nuclear waste challenges,’ Brinton said. ‘I’ll do all I can to bring innovative thought into this government role.’

  8. Ex says:

    Tom Hanks’ son Chet claimed he did not have a ‘strong male role model’ during his teens while he coped with the pressures of having celebrity parents.

    Although Chet, 31, assured the public that ‘I love my parents’ and ‘wouldn’t want any different parents,’ he confessed having a famous family is ‘a double-edged sword.’

    He said many people had ‘contempt’ for him as a movie star’s child, and while trying to navigate the ‘s***-talking’ and the ‘d***-riders,’ he lacked ‘a strong male role model’ who could have told him: ”Hey, bro, f*** these people. They are just jealous of you.”

  9. Ex says:

    We are really and truly F-cked. I’ll give you guys that.

  10. leftwing says:

    “In the malls in Red America, what you saw happen in that Bridgewater Commons video will be commonplace. Profiling is acceptable in Red America. Fights between two white people simply won’t happen there.”

    Nice snark, what’s that, the fifth or sixth?

    Sarcasm and exaggeration are great tools to disengage others from serious debate when one’s own viewpoint is suspect (see: FoxNews, MSNBC).

    So, factoring out non-responsive or dismissive responses (“can’t ever happen”) I haven’t seen any non-rebuttable response yet…

    Would you like to take another swing at the ball?

    Given the historic anomaly of the current US territory and the current and well defined differences of opinion, outlook, values, and practices largely along geographic lines why would one not consider separating the current US into two separate entities to go their own ways?

    Or are you a firm believer of manifest destiny and American exceptionalism?

    We had an interesting debate yesterday in here on regulation. There is a fairly clear delineation between Red and Blue on this topic. Rather than incessant argument and the associated waste and ill-will, why would it not be better to separate into two camps where each may, relatively unfettered and with strong majority support, enact their own policies?

    Considering this exercise can be done across a dozen other areas of serious contention makes the argument even stronger.

    So again, if you can, without snark or platitude why should we not consider separation? For the benefit of everyone.

  11. 3b says:

    Juice: Hunter wrote a memoir? Who would waste their time paying for and reading it?

  12. Ex says:

    What I see is America folding in on itself. 3rd World style. The struggle between the fuuuuckin Kooks and the Authoritarian lovers will mean the middle gets squeezed more and more. Til there is no middle. No mo.

  13. Ex says:

    9:02 when I first moved to my town a little west of Simi, I was sitting at the bar there and the guys said yeah they’ll leave you alone. “Rich” white guy…I wanted to laugh, but I will say they probably do profile here and we have almost zero crime. LA? A completely different story. Fellas. Whatever you do. Support your Boys in Blue.

  14. leftwing says:

    “The Biden administration has hired the first non-binary person to a federal government leadership position, according to Sam Brinton, who will now serve as deputy assistant secretary of spent fuel and waste disposition in the office of nuclear energy…”

    At least if ‘they’ starts growing weird body parts from too much exposure to materiel in their portfolio it won’t matter, and may even be a mating benefit…

  15. Ex says:

    What’s ahead…..? Sorry I missed the last thread on this:

    Identity is Huuuuuuge right now among the littles. So get used to seeing it and accept the fact that half these folks aren’t gonna make it to adulthood. Drugs, Suicide, etc the odds are bleak.

    Homelessness is a real issue that we out here handle really badly. But its only bad out here because of the weather. I say build massive camps and let them run wild in Tacoma. Either way they are a blight.

    Income. Look for the income to be distributed somehow in some form to the needy. It’s horrible that we can’t at least feed everyone.

  16. leftwing says:

    “Hunter wrote a memoir? Who would waste their time paying for and reading it?”

    You were around big piles of money. Money Laundering 101.

    Art. Check.
    Book. Check.

    Next up, talk show.

    How else can you get money to the Big Guy under the guise of legitimacy?

  17. Ex says:

    Oh, and I personally am goin out of my mind spending all day with teenagers. Though I did have a fascinating talk with one about NFTs/. yesterday.

    I think I see an opportunity there myself. But looooord have mercy. N – F- Ts???

  18. Ex says:

    Oh and NFTs///we need to talk about these.

  19. Ex says:

    9:12 it’s all about cheekbones and redemption in Hollywood these days.

  20. Fast Eddie says:

    I give you, our new deputy assistant secretary of spent fuel and waste disposition in the office of nuclear energy:


  21. No One says:

    This Brinton guy is an unusual guy, or whatever it likes to be called. It is big into what’s called “puppy play” where it pretends to be a dog with other guys who pretend to be dogs. But real dogs don’t stick their weenies in other dogs buttholes after playing, do they?
    The bizarre thing is, do you think this guy would have won this job if he weren’t a flamer, or you think the DEI folk in the Biden Admin filled another diversity quota?
    As for me, I don’t think mustaches with lipstick are a good fashion statement.

  22. leftwing says:

    That Cuomo article was priceless….I only skimmed it, was it real or satire?

    If real, LO-fucking-L.

    He’s screeching like a cat thrown into a bathtub in exact fact, form, and reason identical to every other person who suffered by having the latest “-ism” weaponized against them…

    The difference, and the source of his anger, is that he thought since he was from the ‘protected’ party the nutjobs they turned loose on the general populace would never turn on him…

    Dumbass…it’s why you never let the tiger out the cage no matter how much it purrs. Or never bring it home in the first place. But for fucks sake don’t be so stupid as to open the cage door and not expect to get your own arm torn off.

  23. Phoenix says:


    Not sure if I am understanding what you wrote correctly, but damn, if I am, you are one nasty human.

    OTOH, I might just be misinterpreting your posts. But if not, you make Eddie look like a saint.

    A teacher no less.

  24. Grim says:

    Can’t simultaneously love Bowie while ragging on other non-binary folks.

  25. Juice Box says:

    I am all for this new Assistant Deputy. Perhaps one of the toughest jobs in the Energy Dept, is dealing with the spent fuel quagmire.

    We generate 2,000 tons of spent nuke fuel every year and have been for decades. It’s mostly sitting in a nearby cold cask above ground storage onsite at your nearest nuke plant. We do not not recycle used nuclear fuel like what is done elsewhere, we would rather dig it up fresh from mines and make it that way instead of refining spent fuel which we have plenty.

    Here in NJ we shut down Oyster Creek Nuke Power Plant. Their spent fuel however remains onsite guarded by the lowest bidding contractor Holtec. Approx storage is something like 500 casks/cannisters of spent nuclear fuel will be kept there for the next 40-years+ under the contract. Talk about kicking the can down the road.

    Sam Brinton comes from a startup that wants to take that spent fuel and return it to mother earth, by drilling a hole in rock a kilometer down and leaving it there in hard rock for as many millennia it will take for it to no longer be a threat.


  26. Phoenix says:

    Powerful statement.

    Now look at this photo:


  27. Phoenix says:


    Boomer loved the energy created by that mess, it allowed boomer to heat and cool their houses so cheaply they could build them larger and larger.

    Boomer says just leave it anywhere. Won’t be boomers problem when they are dead.

    In fact, just park it next to the 30 trillion deficit boomer left, as that’s not boomers problem anymore either.

  28. Phoenix says:

    Anyone know who the woman in the pic is? She attractive? I think so.

    The guy? Anyone recognize him?

  29. Phoenix says:


    That guy is less concerning to me than Zuck, Bezos, or Musk.

  30. Juice Box says:

    Did any of you people spend any time in NYC clubs?

    Unusual guy? Not really. I cannot tell you how many unusual guys would be wearing a business suit by day and lipstick and eyeliner at night. I would rather know that this person has some weird fetishes now than have it come out later against them in congressional hearings as they go against the uranium and energy lobbies to get congress to approve changes in how we deal with spent nuclear fuel.

    Right now it’s head in the sand. The original decades old plan to bury it at Yucca mountain was sunk by Obama as a favor to Harry Reid. We F-ing built the place already!!! Billions wasted, it was one of the first things Obama did when he took office cancel the program to bury all the nuke waste. 10 years after a nuke rod is removed from the reactor and stored in the dry cask it is still made up of 96% U 233 and emits 10,000 rem/hour!

    It’s sitting around everywhere, and there is no plan to deal with it. It has to be buried deep in the earth. Even the Europeans are burying it now.

    This has to be done and if Sam Brinton says he can get it done then great have it.

  31. The Great Pumpkin says:

    According to FOX News, part of Tafoya’s platform includes being a “voice against CRT (critical race theory) and other radically progressive policies.”

    “My son’s first best friend was a little African-American boy. They were inseparable. Get to a certain age they start having what’s called an affinity group, which means you go for lunch and pizza with people who look like you … At kids in school, there is a big, big focus on the color of your skin and my children … Why are we even teaching that the color of the skin matters? Because to me, what matters is your character and your values. … I don’t care if I’m attacked. I really am not afraid of that, and I guess I feel like so many people now are afraid. Yeah. And I’m not. Listen, I know there are repercussions for whatever I choose to say. And I’ve talked to my kids’ school about it. You know, please don’t hold this against my kids. I’m speaking for me. I’m speaking for my family. But please don’t hold this against my kids.”


  32. The Great Pumpkin says:

    She has a point. Character and values are all that matter. Stop injecting racism into their minds. Stop making it a point to acknowledge the differences.

    Remember, the child’s mind is a blank slate. If you inject in their mind that people are treated differently based on the color of their skin, then what do you think the result will be.

    My daughter is blind to skin color. And I would like to keep it that way.

  33. leftwing says:

    “Can’t simultaneously love Bowie while ragging on other non-binary folks.”

    Not ragging on what anyone does with their junk…tape it, paint it, cut it off, jam it into whatever orifice (living or inanimate) you want….God knows mine’s been places I wish I could take back.

    Mocking the appointment of this non-binary because of his robustly public gender fluidity…unless, of course, he was objectively the best candidate for the job based on a blind evaluation of the requirements of the actual job….

    Doubt he’s the Bowie of his profession….

  34. Phoenix says:

    If anyone looked at that photo, that there is a religious church going woman.

    She married that guy. Then pushed him off a cliff. No remorse. Lied easily to the police.

    But we fear a person who dresses in drag or whatever you call it.

    I don’t care what color your skin is, your religion, or sexual orientation.

    Racial profiling is just that. No one is racial profiling that girl.

    But she sure was deadly. Her name is Jordan Graham.

    I wonder what that dude was thinking as he was doing his final swan dive (but not for the Olympics)

  35. Phoenix says:

    Not ragging on what anyone does with their junk…tape it, paint it, cut it off, jam it into whatever orifice (living or inanimate) you want…

    People do.

    I have first hand knowledge of this.

  36. Libturd says:

    Left. It might have been snark. But it’s the absolute truth. There won’t be no black people in Red America. I know the black conservative dogma.

    It’s like with insurance. It doesn’t work if the good drivers don’t pay for the bad drivers or if the young don’t pay for the aged or sick. What you propose will be great for red America, but terrible for Blue America.

    Honestly, Red America will end up looking like Alpine and Blue America, a giant ghetto. Now I know you are going to say that’s the result of each groups policies. But the truth is that the wealthy have a responsibility to help pay for the poor. Due to human nature (greed), the wealthy is all packing up and moving to Red America. And the poor are all headed to Blue America where hopefully a few people with some means will still care about them.

    This is why your strategy would never work.

  37. leftwing says:

    “Did any of you people spend any time in NYC clubs?”

    Village Halloween parade c. 1981…..almost fell out my chair when a couple years ago a network announced coverage of the parade and panned a crowd that included kids…and then I saw it was Disney-fied to PG at worst…..good that they did away with that dude atop the float on a stripper pole dressed like Liza in Cabaret flapping his erect 14″ schlong in the wind to the beat….

  38. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    The fluidity movement is the next frontier. Plain old g@y to them is bigoted.

    And Bowie played a character. The new rigidity of the left is killing art. Quite a strange turn that’s taken.

  39. Phoenix says:

    There is never going to be a “Red” and “Blue” America.

    People here like to fight too much or hate too much. It’s ingrained in the society.

    No utopia in the future here.

  40. leftwing says:

    Lib, thanks for the thoughtful reply…will respond with one later, no time but for quick thoughts right now…

    Speaking of, is it my local ShopRite or anyone seeing issues with chicken…they usually have RD identical boneless breasts at $2.49-2.99/lb.

    Stopped there last night absolutely sickly looking product at 4.49/lb. Seriously, I haven’t seen supermarket meat look that bad since about Poland, 1992…wouldn’t feed it to a cat….one-off issue with the wrong temporary hire as butcher? Or do I need to budget a trip to RD into my day today?

  41. Phoenix says:

    This ain’t a manual transmission. It’s more like a CVT.

    BidenIsTheGOAT says:
    February 17, 2022 at 10:13 am
    The fluidity movement is the next frontier. Plain old g@y to them is bigoted.

    And Bowie played a character. The new rigidity of the left is killing art. Quite a strange turn that’s taken.

  42. Phoenix says:

    Guess we will see.

    Chicken might be the least of our problems.

    “Russia demands US pulls ALL troops from ‘Central and Eastern Europe’ and expels US deputy ambassador as Biden says Putin will invade in a ‘matter of days’: Kamala heads to Munich Conference and Ukraine kindergarten is bombed”

  43. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    My point is, why is the left interpreting art through a political spectrum. And why enforce conformity. The absolutism orthodoxy is killing the culture. Maher had called them or for it. That used to be stigma of the conservative right.

  44. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – Midwestern’s can be strange, from reporting on football to politics? She was originally announcing for the Vikings and then the NFL. Minnesota is an even stranger place. Michelle is from a town called Edina. The joke about the town is the name stands for “Every Day I Need Attention”. Very white town next to Minneapolis, much like Wanye NJ, you have to be able to afford to live there.

    She is now the co-chair of a political campaign for businessman and Army veteran, African American Kendall Qualls. Qualls is a Republican and did not get the vote for his congressional district in 2019, they instead went with a white democrat in the 2019 congressional election. Now he is running for Governor of Minnesota, and might have a shot as well things have changed since the George Floyd Riots there, and the white suburban liberals are still afraid to go into downtown Minneapolis now, many have security cameras and watch there neighborhoods more closely now. Same suburbs that gave us Amy Klobuchar.. It’s a different breed there for sure very liberal until well your suburban lifestyle is threatened with arson….Also a very friendly gun state and heavily armed. We shall see if they vote for him in November…

  45. leftwing says:

    “Kamala heads to Munich Conference…”

    Those poor Ukrainians are absolutely fucked…

  46. Phoenix says:

    She just likes the limelight.

    Midwestern’s can be strange, from reporting on football to politics?

  47. Phoenix says:

    You just won the Super Bowl, but man, this vid is really harsh to look at.

    Damn that was frosty.


  48. Juice Box says:

    re: The Limelight…I think I met a few of you back there in 1996, was a great place for techno, goth, and industrial music…..

  49. Phoenix says:

    I was thinking the same thing..

    leftwing says:
    February 17, 2022 at 10:27 am
    “Kamala heads to Munich Conference…”

    Those poor Ukrainians are absolutely fucked…

  50. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What scumbags.

    “In Stamford, Conn., a 46-year-old resident pleaded guilty after putting a portion of $4 million in coronavirus aid toward the purchase of a Porsche. And a Mercedes. And a BMW.
    In Somerset, N.J., a 51-year-old woman allegedly invented employees, inflated wages and fabricated entire tax filings to collect $1 million in loans.
    And in St. Petersburg, Fla., a federal judge sentenced to prison a 63-year-old man who obtained $800,000 on behalf of businesses that did not exist.
    The cases and charges, each announced over the past month, count among hundreds involving a slew of programs enacted by Congress in the darkest days of the coronavirus pandemic — money dispatched with an urgency at the time that it is now putting Washington’s watchdogs to the test.”


  51. Phoenix says:


    All white collar crimes. It’s not like they passed a fake 20.

    It’s all good, and would be tolerated in a Red Side, should one ever arise.

    Not all crime is the same. Not all theft is the same.

    It’s all about perception and how you choose to justify it.

  52. Fast Eddie says:

    The cases and charges, each announced over the past month, count among hundreds involving a slew of programs enacted by Congress in the darkest days of the coronavirus pandemic — money dispatched with an urgency at the time that it is now putting Washington’s watchdogs to the test.”

    Could you imagine the waste, fraud, trickery, deceit, skullduggery and chicanery that would occur of there was a build back better shakedown and racket?

  53. Phoenix says:

    Got pulled the other day in a special situation in order to try to save the day.

    Mission accomplished. With a crew I never worked with.

    At least something was a bit uplifting this week.

  54. leftwing says:

    “The Limelight…I think I met a few of you back there in 1996…”

    LOL, the shit that went on in the nooks and crannies of that old church….in retrospect, future generations will mark a bright dividing line at the point in time smart videophones became prolific and before they existed…will seem like two different universes…

  55. Phoenix says:


    Thieves come in all colors, shapes and sizes.

    Are you surprised? How many Americans were so proud of the Sopranos and would like to live a life like them?

  56. 3b says:

    Phoenix White collar crime is tolerated by both red and blue; they have that in common.

  57. Phoenix says:

    You’re right about that.

  58. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Most of the time, white collar crime is committed by people in positions of power, which is why they get away with it or are penalized lightly. The little guy you can push around, no consequences come from pushing around the little guy. It’s actually embraced.

  59. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Walt Disney Co. said it plans to start developing residential communities, starting with one in Rancho Mirage, in California’s Coachella Valley.

    The new residential-development business will be called Storyliving by Disney, the company said Wednesday. Disney’s research-and-development team, known as Imagineers, will help design the communities.

    Disney has found success beyond its theme-park business in other segments, including its cruise line, and aims to build on that by developing residential communities, Josh D’Amaro, chairman of Disney Parks, Experiences and Products, said in a promotional video.

    “While we’re known most for our theme-park experiences, we’ve built an incredible legacy of going beyond the parks,” he said.


  60. grim says:

    Did any of you people spend any time in NYC clubs?

    My sentiment too, how can you be from this area and not have been exposed to so much of this, that it lacks any real shock value at all. Not going to react like someone from corn country who stepped into Twilo on Saturday night at 4am.

  61. grim says:

    And Bowie played a character. The new rigidity of the left is killing art. Quite a strange turn that’s taken.

    Bowie’s talent and fame afforded him the privilege to be who he was and be wildly accepted for it, same goes for Freddie.

  62. BRT says:

    Most of the time, white collar crime is committed by people in positions of power

    Most of the time? Being in a position of power is what literally defines it.

  63. grim says:

    By the way, Holiday Road by Lindsey Buckingham doesn’t nearly get the credit it’s due.

    I can’t believe someone hasn’t covered that yet. I’d kill for Weezer to do it.

  64. Fast Eddie says:

    Love the talents of Bowie and Freddie, regret not seeing Queen live when I had the chance. Freddie was just an amazing talent to watch onstage and in his music. But that’s art… or it was art. Now it’s just posturing, flamboyant arrogance coupled with quotas and one-upmanship. I always thought diplomacy and art were at different ends of the spectrum. When you erase all boundaries, then you’re left with none.

  65. grim says:

    Would have loved to see Queen, too young.

    Remember live aid, from grammar school.

  66. grim says:

    I am glad I got to see a handful of dead shows when Jerry was still around.

    I remember doing 3 or 4 back to back at Giants Stadium mid 90s, and some days where we just hung out in the parking lot (which might have been better than the shows).

    Floyd as well, during the Division Bell tour. Both Giants and Yankees stadium shows.

  67. grim says:

    Wait, mixing up Giants and MSG, they weren’t all in the same place.

    Yeah, good show.

    Man, was the mid-90s the end of great stadium shows?

  68. Ex says:

    9:22 not sure what got you triggered there

  69. Ex says:

    A new analysis shows transgender individuals have a significantly higher mortality rate when compared to cis men and women.

    Using data compiled from the Netherlands spanning 5 decades, a team led by Dr. Martin den Heijer, of Amsterdam UMC, found the mortality risk among this population did not decrease between 1972-2018, based on a number of factors.

    “The findings of our large, nationwide study highlight a substantially increased mortality risk among transgender people that has persisted for decades,” den Heijer said in a statement. “Increasing social acceptance, and monitoring and treatment for cardiovascular disease, tobacco use, and HIV, will continue to be important factors that may contribute to decreasing mortality risk in transgender people.”

  70. Juice Box says:

    MetLife Stadium or the old Giant’s stadium hasn’t had a great concert season in years, even before Covid. It simply too tough to sell out such a big place, usually only one big festival or one or two band tours a season. This summer it looks like Coldplay, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers only.

    MSG is still the place to be most concerts out of any venue anywhere. Pretty decent line up this year. PNC lineup looks ok, nothing super great, but for a $200 season ticket you can go to every show and sit on the lawn with parking incuded.

  71. Libturd says:

    Our typical Thursday night involved driving down to Hoboken and parking in one of the three public self-park garages on Sinatra Drive. We would then PATH over to the Village and would start our pregaming at Down The Hatch which had foosball and billiards or at an old Irish Bar that was on the Corner of Cornelia and West 4th if there were sports we wanted to watch. Then we would typically grab a $3 falafel at Mamouns over by NYU and would order $6 pitchers in the huge cellar bar at Boo Radleys. If there was an industrial show, we would often do the Limelight until nearly daylight. Or, we would just hang out in Washington Square getting stoned and kicking hacky sacks. The toughest part was remembering where we parked backed in Hoboken. Those were the greatest days of my life. I saw Ministry, Consolidated, Thrill Kill Cult and Meat Beat Manifesto, among others at the Limelight. Always a great place for a show.

  72. Libturd says:


    Saw you listed the lyrics to Eve of Destruction yesterday (or the day before).

    A while back I shared the story of that great history teacher I had in 7th grade who ended up being the mayor of East Brunswick. He was the one who divided our class into three sections according to our grades. The boneheads, the neutral and the brainiacs. Well the first class session we had with him, he didn’t say anything at first. He just played Eve of Destruction twice over and then we discussed the song for the rest of the period. It was a great lesson on critical thinking.

  73. Fast Eddie says:

    Will we ever return to a five-day in-office work week? Charlie Munger doesn’t think so.


  74. crushednjmillenial says:

    Cuomo, to me, is a tremendous hypocrite. In front of cameras, he’s got one arm around a criminal and the other arm around a transsexual person. In his head, he grew up in Queens so I don’t realistically believe he was much sympathetic to “woke, inc.” DiBlasio – yes, sure, he is a loony lefty for real.

    So, Cuomo did as Left said above “open the tiger cage.” His fall from grace was as swift as it was satisfying. Btw, yes, AG James engineered this whole thing (the publicity surrounding it, finding that many victims to speak out, controlling how the investigaotrs framed the findings, the amount of resources devoted to this) to try to grab the Gov seat, in a hamhanded impression of “House of Cards” or “Billions”. Hochul chuckled as she grabbed teh Gov seat and remains poised to keep it for another term. I don’t know if there is a red wave tall enough to topple a D Governor at the ballot box in NY, in a post-trump world, so I’d imagine she keeps the seat.

  75. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Hey these people need health care. I happen to think mental health. I would also question the longevity impact of synthetic hormones. Doubt they would look at that.

  76. chicagofinance says:

    Maybe I am off base, but the clubs drew a fine line….. as a city kid, we thought of most stuff as very B&T. Also, there were urban clubs, B&T clubs, but the critical element is that you aged out of them very quickly. As a guy, it was difficult to get in with a group of guys when you were 17-20, unless you clearly had money (which I didn’t). By the time you were 24-25-ish, you were way too old to be there.

    I think the attitude was that you didn’t go out on weekends, only weekdays, to avoid urban and B&T.

    grim says:
    February 17, 2022 at 11:39 am
    Did any of you people spend any time in NYC clubs?

    My sentiment too, how can you be from this area and not have been exposed to so much of this, that it lacks any real shock value at all. Not going to react like someone from corn country who stepped into Twilo on Saturday night at 4am.

  77. No One says:

    Ministry from the Land of Rape and Honey days?
    What was the concert like, 2 guys pressing a few keys on an electronic sampler and screaming?

  78. Ex says:

    12:09 envious!!

  79. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Fast, 4 day work week was already here before pandemic. I just can’t wait till schools do it too. :)

    “Getting to Flex

    If teachers need more flexibility, why not make school partly remote? Well, simply, remote school doesn’t work for kids. So what else can schools do to make teachers’ jobs more flexible?

    Before we get there, a warning: these ideas are going to seem unlikely or impossible. The school schedule is a core part of the grammar of schooling: the ways that, just like we unconsciously speak grammatically, we conceive of how schools operate. For instance, we just know that students spend their days in groups of about 25: not 5, not 50. Fundamentally changing that grammar is hard to do; it’s even hard to think about.

    But what are the alternatives? If a quarter of teachers leave the job at the end of this year, and younger knowledge workers have no interest in entering such an inflexible profession, how do schools continue as they are?

    We could significantly increase salaries to retain school staff—if taxpayers and politicians are willing to raise taxes or make significant cuts elsewhere. (Over 80 percent of education budgets go to salaries and benefits; the money isn’t there to increase pay without increasing the budget.) Without a significant change in the economics of education, changing the grammar of schooling is actually the most realistic approach.

    So let’s imagine. How could school work if teachers only taught 4 days out of a 5 day school week?

    At elementary schools, we’d have to get rid of the 1 teacher/1 class/5 days equation. At secondary schools, we’d have to toss out 5-day-per-week class rotations. Without hiring more teachers, we’d have to abandon the idea that kids spend their entire learning time in groups of 25. Essentially, we’d have to create new options for learning.

    One relatively easy option would be for elementary classes to have their normal classes 4 days a week. Rather than a “special” class every day, they might devote one day every week for two 3-hour workshops in art, music, STEAM or phys ed. Secondary schools could have each class meet 4 days per week (on a rotation where every class meets 5 times per month), which would leave each teacher free for an out-of-school day each week. Schools on block schedules could adjust their rotations so that each teacher had two consecutive blocks of “planning” to use as, and where, the teacher prefers.”


    Fast Eddie says:
    February 17, 2022 at 1:12 pm
    Will we ever return to a five-day in-office work week? Charlie Munger doesn’t think so.


  80. Libturd says:


    That’s how all industrial shows were. Jourgenson hung a skeleton from his rolling microphone stand. And yes, I think it was vocals, electric guitar and base only. If you really wanted to see craziness, I saw Prodigy and Orb a the Bowery? Just a synthesizer. Didn’t matter when you were all laced out on X. Seemed like the greatest show ever.

  81. Libturd says:

    In other news. I moved my positions back to 70 stable/30 long at the market close yesterday across the board.

  82. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This market is f/ed. Dealing with 3 macro extremes all at once.

    1. The debt problem of the 1940s.
    2. The rising inflationary environment of the 1970s.
    3. The excessive financial asset valuations of the late 1990s.

  83. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And forgot to add the risk of war with Russia and maybe even China. Hope everyone enjoyed the last 13 years. They were awesome. Easy to make money and stable inflation.

  84. 3b says:

    Pumps: I won’t argue with you but 4 day work week was a rarity before the pandemic.

  85. 3b says:

    Fast: Charlie Munger is right. 5 days a week in the office is dead. The old feckers who are resisting will ultimately have to give in.

  86. The Great Pumpkin says:


    Not everyone, but it was going mainstream.

  87. 3b says:

    Pumps: The 4 day workweek was talked about since the 1950s. Carter talked about it in the 1970s, as a way to conserve oil. It never went mainstream, although some companies here and there we’re doing it. Since the pandemic it’s gone mainstream and more companies are embracing it, especially in Europe.

  88. PumpkinFace says:

    Mainstream baby!

    A March 2020 study by Gallup found that just 5 percent of U.S. workers typically work four-day weeks.

  89. Phoenix says:

    Gas now close to four dollars per gallon.

    Climb baby climb

  90. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I don’t know, but a lot of people were working from home on Fridays. 5% is pure bs.

    PumpkinFace says:
    February 17, 2022 at 2:42 pm
    Mainstream baby!

    A March 2020 study by Gallup found that just 5 percent of U.S. workers typically work four-day weeks.

  91. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The traffic went down significantly every friday pre-pandemic.

    At the end of the day, when the labor market shifts back in favor of the employer, all these people are in for a rude awakening. These trends going on right now of WFH are only reflective of the current environment.

  92. The Great Pumpkin says:

    *in WFH

  93. crushednjmillenial says:

    A Canadian donates $5 to the trucker convoy. That Candian currently faces having their bank account frozen by direction of the government. Lol, your Canadian mortgage payment doesn’t go through, your Canadian car payment check bounces, and you can’t get your 50 Canadian dollars out of the atm for your pocket for your weekend.

    So, private political donations supporting a certain viewpoint can trigger cutting you off from your own financial resources in Canada. Still a free country, eh?

    Don’t even get started with the looney tunes times down in Australia during covid.

  94. 3b says:

    Pumps: It ain’t going back to the pre-pandemic days.

  95. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Get real, what a wild take. So how bout I setup a protest in front of your house and prevent you from coming and going, you okay with that?

    Protest all you want, but when it starts impacted the supply chain…get real.

    “So, private political donations supporting a certain viewpoint can trigger cutting you off from your own financial resources in Canada. Still a free country, eh?”

  96. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You don’t know that. Just like the experts said the suburbs are dead and the millennials will be renters for life. Took a short term trend reflective of the current economy at the time and said this would become a long-term trend. How did that work out? I don’t believe for one second when the employer gets control of the labor market that they will continue to appease the worker. No way, no how.

    3b says:
    February 17, 2022 at 3:02 pm
    Pumps: It ain’t going back to the pre-pandemic days.

  97. PumpkinFace says:

    Working from home and the four day work week are different things. Dumb@ass

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    February 17, 2022 at 2:46 pm
    I don’t know, but a lot of people were working from home on Fridays. 5% is pure bs.

  98. 3b says:

    Pumps: I don’t know it for a fact, but it is a reasonable assumption based on all the facts and circumstances. You on the other hand state as fact that once the employer gains control everyone will be back in the office or back most of the time. And, you state that as that’s what you want for your own reasons.
    We can leave it there.

  99. crushednjmillenial says:

    3:02 . . .

    So, you have no concern about the fact that private donations to a political cause can cut you off from your bank account in a democratic society? That doesn’t suggest to you that the citizenry’s freedoms are being curtailed?

    You don’t the Canadian government had more democratic means for confronting the trucker convoy’s disruptions? Like . . . wouldn’t it be a more appropriate response for the Canadian government to ask a court to order an injunction stating that the protestors must protest in an appropriate time, place, and manner (i.e., cannot block roadways) and then the Canadian government brings in appropriate police force to enforce the injunction if it is violated?

  100. The Great Pumpkin says:


    Just understand that we are in a unique labor market. It’s not often that an owner has to listen to the demands of a worker. Maybe it stays, but I would not bet on it.

    I don’t benefit one way or another. I have no skin in the game. My wife’s company would survive either way…did the death of retail malls kill my wife’s company? Or did they adjust and move on with their life? Her ceo is old anyway. Who knows what he does with the company in the future. He might sell it all and liquidate for all I know. My wife has skills that are valuable to any company, she is not some scrub who gifted the job on knowing someone. She got the job on her skills. Those skills do not belong to her company.

  101. The Great Pumpkin says:


    Your position is weak. I’m not wasting my time responding anymore on that nonsense. You are dramatizing the situation. I’m not scared of the govt locking up my funds.

  102. crushednjmillenial says:

    To take the other political side as an example. I think the BLM movement is wrongheaded. BLM overly magnifies racial injustice into a bigger issue in the US than it is – the racial injusticie, if any, is really mostly driven by class/economic issues rather than racial animus. I will vote against any political figure who supports BLM, woke, sjw, etc, too much.

    Nonetheless, Americans and all free people should be able to donate whatever they want to a poltiical cause like BLM without negative reprucssions. Their bank accounts should not be frozen.

  103. crushednjmillenial says:

    3:22 . . .

    Lol. I think this is a lesson from history. So, just like in Saddam’s Iraq, life under the Taliban, life in the Soviet regime, today’s China and all illiberal regimes in history . . . . If you just keep your head down and don’t make waves, don’t worry, they probably won’t hurt you. Nice.

  104. The Great Pumpkin says:


    You are being ridiculous. If BLM started shutting down deliveries to your local supermarket, you are okay with that? Freedom of speech right?

  105. leftwing says:

    Dumped some of my ROKU shorts for a decent gain, adjusted my writes. Demented grandma was on the noon CNBC show – the whole segment – she didn’t do herself any favors. See if you can find the full interview…her answers on that TDOC POS that has nothing to do with genomics but is nonetheless the largest holding in her ‘genomics’ portfolio was cringeworthy…she never answered the direct question of how it was a genomics company, just a Turrets stream of buzzwords…I actually feel for her, it was painful….and they were so courteous to her, anyone else that seat they would (and have) destroyed….

  106. SmallGovConservative says:

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    February 17, 2022 at 3:32 pm
    “You are being ridiculous. If BLM started shutting down deliveries to your local supermarket…”

    BLM rioters fire-bombed police stations and looted stores, among other nasty things, yet Trudeau and his leftist lackeys had no problem supporting them and their ’cause’. As for the truckers who are simply blocking streets, well as Canada’s Justice Minister, David Lametti said, they, as well as any pro-Trumpers who are donating to their cause “ought to be worried” about having their bank accounts frozen and/or being arrested. I’m sure this seems reasonable to Dem stooges like Punkin.

  107. 3b says:

    Pumps:Then you really don’t need to be worried . However, you need to take the blinders off with your belief that this is all employee driven, it’s gone well beyond that. It’s a new world, creative destruction and all that.

  108. 3b says:

    Crushed Never, would I have expected the Canadian government to act in this manner. The ya frightening. And, it may reopen Quebec and western Canada secession talk.

  109. crushednjmillenial says:

    3:32 . . .

    If BLM shut down my local grocery store or blockaded traffic in a horrible way in my neighborhood, then I would expect the government authorities to either:

    (1) ask them to disperse and arrest for things like obstructing traffic, if warranted;
    (2) if the protests are too big for that, then the authorities are supposed to get a court order, including an injunction and enforce that injunction.

    One example of a protest-related injunction (I think this happened in NJ or it is just a famous law case) is that anti-abortion protestors wanted to protest on the public street in front of an abortion doctor’s house. The judge ruled that they could do so at that location for 2 hours per week or something like, because that was the right balance balance between their freedom of expression versus the disruption to a private neighborhood. Same kind of thing happened recently in front of the house of the top Hudson County Government guy (Tom or Ted DiGise) regarding immigration protests re Hudson County renewing an ICE detention contract – I think the protestors got one hour per week.

    For the truckers, the Canadian govt should have secured an injunction, because this is clearly an unduly disruptive protest, after a day or two and went out and enforced it. The democratic way to respond to a disruptive protest is not to target political donations related to it.

  110. BRT says:

    3b, what we are seeing is that all these English speaking nations that we thought were just like us are not like us at all. What remains to be seen is how the blue states measure up over the long term.

  111. 3b says:

    BRT: Perhaps, but I always thought of Canada as quiet and non- confrontational, where disagreement were resolved amicably. This freezing of bank accounts is shocking and in my mind demonstrative of the radical lefts authoritarianism . The mask is off , the lefts peace love joy love everyone as long as you agree with us . If not you will be silenced. It will certainly embolden the radical left in this country.

  112. The Great Pumpkin says:


    Teachers aren’t allowed to strike, but truckers are allowed to do whatever they want?

    It’s amazing how so many on this board see nothing wrong with the truckers trying to hold the economy hostage. Wild times we are living in.

    I didn’t support BLM at all when they were hurting our country. I’m not about to support a bunch of truckers intent on hurting their countries to get their way.

  113. The Great Pumpkin says:

    They were holding that city hostage. You don’t give a f’k because you don’t live there.

    “As for the truckers who are simply blocking streets,”

  114. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Maybe, but I still want to see what happens when the ball is back in the owner’s court and the pandemic is a memory.

    3b says:
    February 17, 2022 at 3:55 pm
    Pumps:Then you really don’t need to be worried . However, you need to take the blinders off with your belief that this is all employee driven, it’s gone well beyond that. It’s a new world, creative destruction and all that.

  115. Bystander says:

    ‘BLM overly magnifies racial injustice into a bigger issue in the US than it is”

    What a bunch of horsesh&t. As usual, convenient for you to believe bc it easier for white people to swallow. When you enslave people for 350 years, tell them they have no rights, tell them that they have to remain illiterate or die and also have to give up seats on bus to white and not allowed in white schools or restaurants plus decades of entertainment industry that paints them as dumb violent thugs, then it has major impacts not washed in a gen. The dimwit R dolts would have you believe it is all equal now..look at Lebron..pathetic.

  116. BRT says:



    Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one’s own; open to new ideas.

    Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.

  117. 3b says:

    Pumps: It’s not going to turn out the way you hope it will. I am quite confident in that statement. Offices equal dinosaurs.

  118. 3b says:

    Bystander: That’s all true. But, are we ever going to move on from there and implement Dr. Kings dream. Seems to me we are moving backwards not forward.

  119. 3b says:

    Pumps: Do you condone the Canadian governments freezing of people s assets for making donations regardless of whether you agree with the truckers or not. I would like to think you find that very concerning.

  120. The Great Pumpkin says:


    You are basically arguing for financial support of terrorists. Imagine truckers shut down the GW and the tunnels. You support that bs? It makes me sick that this is even a discussion, esp when individual rights is the justification. What about the rights of all the people being screwed by their actions?

  121. The Great Pumpkin says:


    You can’t duplicate the pace of innovation in person collaboration generates. That’s my sole thesis. If businesses continue to run on cut throat competition, eventually they will turn to in-person collaboration to gain an advantage. That’s the thesis behind my position. A business running with in person collaboration in centralized location will beat out remote when it comes to innovation.

    Just picture putting a team together. Working on some challenging stuff. You want to have a remote team? Can this remote team beat an in-person team? Highly doubt it.

  122. 3b says:

    Pumps: Terrorists?? So you do advocate freezing people’s assets for making donations if you disagree. Who is going to define terrorist? Going down a very slippery road. I am surprised you as a history teacher are not concerned.

  123. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Roku being destroyed as we speak.

  124. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just because you are not violent, doesn’t mean you are not hurting others. Aka they are terrorists. Hurting other people financially.

  125. 3b says:

    Pumps: So you advocate government silencing dissent. All they have to do is label them terrorist, and they can define that broadly. You disagree you are are a terrorist regardless.

    And you are a teacher, frightening!

  126. chicagofinance says:

    San Francisco Schools the Left
    The landslide recall of three Board of Education members will have major national repercussions.

    By Peggy Noonan

    It was a landslide. That’s the important fact of San Francisco’s school-board recall election: There was nothing mixed or ambivalent about the outcome. Three members were resoundingly ejected from their jobs: 79% voted to oust Alison Collins, 75% to fire Gabriela López, the board president, and 72% to remove Faauuga Moliga, the vice president.

    This was a vote against progressive education officials in the heart of liberal San Francisco. It is a signal moment because of its head-chopping definitiveness, its clarity, its swiftness and its unignorable statement by parents on what they must have and won’t accept. It was a battle in the Democratic Party’s civil war between liberals and the progressive left. And it marks a continuation of the parents’ rebellion that surfaced in November in Virginia’s upset gubernatorial election.

    It is in the way of things that Democratic leaders in Congress won’t feel they have an excuse to crack down hard on the progressive wing of their party until the entire party loses big in the 2022 elections. But Democratic voters on the ground aren’t waiting for permission. They are taking a stick to wokeness whether the party’s leaders do or not.

    You know most of what was at issue. During the height of the pandemic, when San Francisco’s schools were closed, parents were increasingly frustrated and newly angry. They saw that remote learning was an inadequate substitute for children being in the classroom. Many sensed that a year or two out of school would leave their children with an educational deficit that would not be repaired. The teachers unions balked at reopening and the Board of Education approached the problem with what seemed muted interest. Although they did a lot of word-saying featuring impenetrable jargon, as school boards do, they didn’t have a plan and the schools didn’t open.

    While the board was failing to open the schools it was doing other things. It produced government by non sequitur. The board focused on issues of woke antiracism and oppression. The problem wasn’t whether the kids were getting an education, it was whether the boarded-up schools had unfortunate names. They spent months researching the question and proposed renaming a third of the system’s 125 schools. Many were named for previously respectable people like Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Francis Scott Key and Robert Louis Stevenson. Their names were “inappropriate” because their lives and actions could be connected with charges of racism, sexism and colonialism. From the San Francisco Chronicle: “The move shocked many principals and families, who questioned whether changing a name was a mid-pandemic priority when their children cannot physically attend the school in question.”

    The public rose up—stop this stuff, get our kids back in school! The backlash intensified when it was revealed some of the board’s historical research was dependent on cutting and pasting from Wikipedia.

    So it wasn’t only government by non sequitur, it was inept. The board backed off and said, essentially, that the matter needed more study.

    The board soon moved onto another item on the progressive wish list. It homed in on academically elite public high schools that based admission on testing and grades. For people who can’t afford a $40,000-a-year private-school tuition, such schools are a godsend; they were designed long ago to offer demanding course study to students with limited money but demonstrable gifts.

    The board decided too many Asian-American and white students were accepted in the schools. So they voted to scrap testing and replace it with a permanent lottery system for admission at Lowell High, one of only two campuses in the district to use merit-based admissions. (The decision was later overturned by lawsuits.)

    Now parents exploded, very much including the Asian community. It got more heated when it was discovered Ms. Collins had an old tweet accusing Asian-Americans of using “white supremacist thinking to assimilate and ‘get ahead.’ ” She seemed rather a creepy and bigoted person to have in a position of such authority.

    Even aside from that, parents who were up nights helping their children with homework, seeing that schoolwork was done and discipline learned, felt their effort was being discounted and their children abandoned to abstract notions of equity. It wasn’t fair. It wasn’t right. Kids have to be taught to earn their way through effort. Lotteries don’t teach them that; lotteries teach them it’s all luck.

    Now the recall process took off.

    It did not help that just before the pandemic, in 2019, the board had famously turned to censorship. There was a big, colorful series of Depression-era frescoes in a local high school. They’d been there since the 1930s and were commissioned by the Works Progress Administration of the New Deal, a stylized depiction of the founding of America that included slaves and American Indians. The board decided it was racist, cruel, reductive; there was the implication it was right-wing art. In fact the frescoes were the work of a Russian immigrant to America, Victor Arnautoff, who was a communist and trying to bring attention to the cruelty present in some of America’s history. No matter, it was offensive, so the board decided to paint over the murals.

    Art-sensitive San Francisco rose up: This is akin to book burning, you don’t lay waste to art. The board then decided it wouldn’t paint over the frescoes, merely conceal them behind barriers of some sort.

    What was astonishing as you followed the story is what seemed the board members’ shock at parental pushback. They seemed so detached from the normal hopes of normal people. They seemed honestly unaware of them. It was as if they were operating in some abstract universe in which their decisions demonstrated their praiseworthy antiracist bona fides. But voters came to see their actions as a kind of woke progressive vandalism that cleverly avoided their central responsibility: to open the schools.

    School boards somehow always seem to think they are immune from pushback, that their pronouncements will never be opposed because they can barely be understood.

    But people have a way of seeing. If, during a pandemic lockdown, board members speak often and thoughtfully of the increased likelihood of the abuse of neglected children, one will get a sense of their motivation and heart. If instead they dilate on political issues that deflect, one will get a different, darker view of their motivation and heart.

    That’s why the three in San Francisco were fired.

    What happened shows again that there is a real parents movement going on, and it is going to make a difference in our politics.

    Democrats dismiss these issues as “culture-war distractions.” They are not; they are about life at its most real, concrete and immediate. That easy dismissal reveals the party’s distance from the lives of its own constituents.

    To think parents would sacrifice their children for your ideology, or an ideology coming from within your ranks that you refuse to stand up to, is political malpractice at a high level.

    Joe Biden received 85% of the vote in San Francisco in 2020. Those board members just lost their seats by more than 70%. A cultural rebellion within the Democratic Party has begun.

  127. PumpkinFace says:

    Public employee unions are hurting many people financially. They are officially terrorists.

  128. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So is for profit business. Are you going to get rid of that?

    PumpkinFace says:
    February 17, 2022 at 8:27 pm
    Public employee unions are hurting many people financially. They are officially terrorists.

  129. Fast Eddie says:

    For all my Polish brothers here, Kaz Grala qualified for the Daytona 500 this Sunday. His father raced and was born in Poland. So, we have a Polish American boy in the race!

  130. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Imagine you might be a bit pissed if you were a shop owner in Ottawa right now. If you’re such a fan of the convoy why don’t you join it?

  131. The Great Pumpkin says:

    At the end of the day, what do the truckers want? Slippery slope. Govt gives in now. Then truckers will continue to exploit this whenever they have an issue. Who are they to shut down commerce? That’s bs. And you know it.

  132. PumpkinFace says:

    Of course, they are terrorists. I hate terrorism. I don’t know how you can ever defend it. It is the worst. I hate terrorism so so much. If I could go back in time and undo terrorism, I would. I hate it.

  133. The Great Pumpkin says:

    If you are for the truckers, then give the right to strike to teachers. Can’t have it both ways. You take away the teacher’s weapon, but support the truckers weapon. Hypocrisy.

  134. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Oh right, your position is based on self interest, at the same time mocking a teachers union for protecting self interest. You hypocrites.

  135. PumpkinFace says:

    I don’t think teachers should get paid at all. Perhaps a free lunch like the students get in some districts. And don’t come back at me with how am I supposed to pay my bills? That’s got dam crazy talk.

  136. The Great Pumpkin says:


    Imagine living your life trolling and being jealous of a teacher. Now that’s pathetic. Get some help.

  137. PumpkinFace says:

    What’s pathetic is you don’t have to imagine you know exactly what it feels like to be universally thought of as dumber than a box of rocks by everyone here. Did you figure out the difference between work from home and a 4-day work week yet?

  138. Juice Box says:

    Keep adding zero to our ever changing mostly cordial conversation, it been a good long long one for sure.

    You have to listen and respect opposing points of view, disagree and get angry fine, but educate. Some of us are privileged to your insights. That is the main reason why we are here. Few of you are funny or pretty, it’s your brain we love. I would think we all like to share our insights into this thing we call life.

    Kill the beefs…it only makes an old man well feel old..


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