Lowball! $68 million dollar edition

From ROINJ:

State’s highest-price house, a mansion in Alpine, finally sells (for $27.5 million) – Slideshow

Imagine buying a house for $27.5 million – the highest price paid for a house in New Jersey in years, if not decades – and feeling like you got a good deal.

If the property was the former Frick family estate – a grand 33,000-square-foot, 12-bedroom, 19-bathroom residence on 12 acres with I-can’t-believe-it-comes-with-all-these amenities – you may just have done so.

At least, that’s the impression of the undisclosed buyer, who picked up a property in Alpine that is tucked into one of the country’s wealthiest zip codes.

The sale price was below the $32.9 million it recently was asking, and far below the $68 million it was listed for when it first went on the market – in 2010. That’s right, it took more than a decade to sell an estate owned by Kamson Corporation CEO Richard Kurtz, who purchased the property for $58 million in 2006.

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210 Responses to Lowball! $68 million dollar edition

  1. grim says:

    From Kyiv this morning.

    Ukraine estimates Russian military losses so far to include

    5,710 troops (up from 5,300)
    29 planes
    29 helicopters
    198 tanks (up from 191)
    846 armoured fighting vehicles (up from 816)
    77 cannons (up from 74)
    24 MLRS (up from 22)
    305 vehicles (up from 291)
    60 tankers
    7 anti-aircraft systems (up from 5)
    3 drones
    2 boats

  2. grim says:

    Getting really, really ugly now.

  3. dentss dunnigan says:

    I’m sure the whole towns property tax will be adjusted accordingly

  4. Fast Eddie says:

    As I write this, why are we still buying oil from Russia?

  5. grim says:

    Because everyone forgets how important energy independence is until times of crisis, when they rediscover the implications of not having energy independence.

  6. grim says:

    Speaking of haughty Bergen County.

    There are a number of Russian energy oligarch-ettes that own mansions in BC, I know this for fact, even though their deeds don’t indicate such.

  7. Fast Eddie says:

    There are a number of Russian energy oligarch-ettes that own mansions in BC, I know this for fact, even though their deeds don’t indicate such.

    Let’s go ransack a few… at least spray paint a few walls!

    Btw, we’re purchasing $1,000,000,000 worth of oil per day from the Russians. I’m waiting for the O’Biden administration to ban the purchase of Russian oil at least until this war stops. We can do that right now… right now. I’m waiting.

  8. Fast Eddie says:

    I’m crying at this moment…

    “Mama, I’m in Ukraine. There is a real war raging here. I’m afraid. We are bombing all of the cities…even targeting civilians.”

    They’re throwing themselves under the wheels of our vehicles.

    This Russian soldier is now dead.

    https://tinyurl.com/46ecfhvp

  9. grim says:

    If you want to go up to the Russian consulate in NYC, I’m all for it, but I’m pretty sure it’s got to be completely blocked off right now. Otherwise, I can’t fathom why it wouldn’t be covered in red paint.

    But the Russians, this is killing them.

  10. grim says:

    Nevermind, it is covered in red paint. Surprised google maps was so quick to update that one.

  11. BRT says:

    Right now, we could have done it a month ago. Same for Europe. The reality is, the EU is funding this war with their energy purchases.

  12. Phoenix says:

    I don’t care where my gas is coming from, as long as it’s cheap.

    I’m buying from China as well.

    Boomer gave me no choice.

  13. Phoenix says:

    Putin has ‘moved his family members to an underground city in Siberia designed to survive a nuclear war’

    Biden has got one. Hunter as well.

    Don’t have one, you might want to rent an excavator and get digging.

  14. Phoenix haha edition says:

    Let’s go ransack a few… at least spray paint a few walls!

    Sounds like that Capitol thing all over again!

    Hahahaha

  15. Phoenix haha edition says:

    Boomer doesn’t understand energy conservation either. Boomer likes his F150 fueled with Cheap Russian Oil.

    Takes you in comfort to the Denny’s where you can get your 1.99 Breakfast special.

    Because everyone forgets how important energy independence is until times of crisis, when they rediscover the implications of not having energy independence.

  16. Phoenix says:

    Getting really, really ugly now.

    You don’t look, you don’t see. The world is a tinderbox.

    Half the world doesn’t give a rat’s ass about anything, and those with money don’t understand why.

    Oh well.

    Please enjoy:

    https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?t=5

  17. grim says:

    No, not ransack.

    Though I’d love to raise enough money to buy a billboard near the entrance to the UN.

    I’d put up the Putin/Hitler image.

  18. Phoenix says:

    Grim,
    You could start a go fund me.

    I’m not sure Hitler want’s any competition, however. He was top dog for so long.

  19. Phoenix says:

    Anyone want iodine pills?

    Surprised no one is marketing them yet.

    Americans are good at marketing.

    Or do they put their full faith in Joe “Aricept” Biden when he tells them there is nothing to worry about.

    Hahaha. He has a bunker full of Grape nuts and Prune Juice.

  20. Phoenix haha edition says:

    Lib,

    Sorry for not giving you cred for the “Nuclear Family” comment yesterday.

    It didn’t go un noticed.

    Made me chuckle!

  21. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    The only people who forgot about the value of energy independence are the same people who claim white supremacy is it biggest domestic threat while urban murder rates go off the charts and fentanyl kills 100k. They are the privileged folks who sit around and debate proper pronoun use all day.

    Joe Biden and his green zealots emboldened Putin. Crafting policies to double the price of oil funded this escapade. Just another debacle that falls at him and the wokesters feet.

    The same thing will happen with China if we become dependent on their batteries.

  22. Phoenix says:

    Just waiting for the Rednecks of America to capture some Russian Americans and torture them in the woods.

    You will read about it first in the Daily Mail. It will happen.

  23. Phoenix says:

    The same thing will happen with China if we become dependent on their batteries.

    haha.

    Boomer Talk.

    Go ask your fellow boomers why they shipped all manufacturing and outsourced all of the jobs there.

    Profits. Greed is Good. S crew the working man. We got cheap labor there. Money money money. Never enough.

    China was your friend then, now suddenly it’s your enemy Boomer?

    Sure, why not. You are still in control. You keep electing more boomers.

    It’s all good. And fentanyl, it gets such a bad name. Trust me, when you need it, it’s a great drug. I’m sure there are some Ukranians and Russians right now who are begging for a dose of that stuff to help them.

  24. The Great Pumpkin says:

    AI-driven innovation shapes markets beyond tech. There is a land grab happening near big cities and it is spurred by …. autonomous trucks. As self-driving trucks hit the highways, operators are seeking out transfer hubs where they can pass on the trailers to human-driven trucks for the final stretch of city deliveries, the WSJ reports. On Monday, Alterra Property Group LLC, a real-estate investor based in Philadelphia, announced a partnership with autonomous-truck company Embark Trucks Inc. to buy property across the U.S.

  25. Ex says:

    Televangelist Pat Robertson came out of retirement on Monday to declare that Russian President Vladimir Putin is following God’s wishes by violently invading Ukraine, insisting this is a step towards a global “End Times” battle in Israel. The 91-year-old evangelical, who stepped down as host of The 700 Club last fall, returned on Monday to discuss the Ukraine crisis as only he can: “People say that Putin’s out of his mind. Yes, maybe so. But at the same time, he’s being compelled by God. He went into the Ukraine but that wasn’t his goal. His goal was to move against Israel, ultimately.” Claiming that Ukraine is merely a “staging area” for one of the great Biblical armies that will gather for Armageddon in Israel, he later told viewers to “read your Bible” because “it’s coming to pass.” This is far from the first time that Robertson has warned that the end of the world is nigh. He has predicted that “there is going to be a judgment on the world” in 1982, the Pacific Northwest would be devastated by a tsunami in 2006, “mass killings”would be unleashed in America in 2007, and an asteroid would destroy the earth after President Donald Trump won re-election in 2020. None of those ever came to pass.

  26. Phoenix says:

    Princess making noise.

    Where is the #metoo? Where is the equal pay for equal work? It’s the old “women and children first.”

    I get the children. Totally. They are innocent.

    Equal rights. I have yet to see where women have rallied to be part of America’s Selective Service System. Many I work with don’t even know that every male in America has to sign up for this.

    This woman has no clue what she is asking for. Putin is just waiting for them to take the bait. Then the gloves come off.

    “Boris Johnson was today berated by a tearful Ukrainian journalist over the West’s failure to protect them from ‘barbaric’ Vladimir Putin.

    The PM was accused of being ‘afraid’ to defend people as he took a press conference on a visit to Poland.

    Daria Kaleniuk said women and children were ‘taking the hit’ because NATO would not enforce a no-fly zone.”

  27. Libturd says:

    Ten year is back down to 1.73?

  28. Phoenix says:

    Ex,

    Don’t worry. His followers will still send him a check.

    But on the positive side, should nuclear winter come to pass, you won’t have to worry about the homeless, or the logistical problem of transporting all of them to Tacoma.

    Putin helped you in your quest should that happen.

  29. Phoenix haha edition says:

    Rumor has it that all of the wealthy in NJ are now paying over 20k for a doc to give them a diagnosis of Bone Spurs.

    Hahahaha.

  30. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Americans are more a threat to themselves than any other nation. FACTS. Human nature is a bitch.

    “Go ask your fellow boomers why they shipped all manufacturing and outsourced all of the jobs there.

    Profits. Greed is Good. S crew the working man. We got cheap labor there. Money money money. Never enough.”

  31. Ex says:

    The homeless are a blight.

  32. Grim says:

    Russia is doing a brilliant job destroying themselves.

    If the west wanted the destruction on the soviet state, at this point all they need to do is wait.

  33. Grim says:

    Does anyone have a pool for the next nation Putin will invade?

    It doesn’t stop here. Why would it?

  34. SmallGovConservative says:

    Not sure what all the belly-aching is about. Things are great! Built! Back! Batter! Joe’s going to tell us so tonight. Has anyone seen Joe?

  35. 3b says:

    Grim: Putin is having a tough time in Ukraine, I don’t see him invading another country. But, who knows , maybe he really is going off the deep end.

  36. Fast Eddie says:

    I want to know what the under/over is on how many times Brandon utters Trump’s name tonight.

  37. Grim says:

    Oh that’s easy, it’s zero.

  38. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The worst imaginable scenario is playing out and markets are 10% from ATHs in history. Is the market rigged? How do you make sense of this?

  39. No One says:

    Phoenix doing a nihilist pumpkin impression this morning.
    Voted on njrereport to be “most likely to be featured in a murder-suicide news story”
    Both of you need help but at least Pumpkin wants to be happy on his little slice of paradise in NJ.

  40. Ex says:

    The GOP has done exactly nothing .

  41. Phoenix haha edition says:

    Has anyone seen Joe?

    They are busy trying to reorient him, this morning he woke up and thought he was a giraffe.

    By noon they should be able to remind him that he is President of the United States.

  42. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wasn’t being negative, was being honest. They sold off a lot of jobs. What’s the most important thing to an avg american…a decent paying job. Too bad they sent them all away and replaced them with service jobs. Not being negative, just telling it how it is. Your generation picked profits over people. It is what it is, human nature is a bitch.

    No One says:
    March 1, 2022 at 9:07 am
    Phoenix doing a nihilist pumpkin impression this morning.
    Voted on njrereport to be “most likely to be featured in a murder-suicide news story”
    Both of you need help but at least Pumpkin wants to be happy on his little slice of paradise in NJ.

  43. Grim says:

    All eyes on Biden tonight, and it has nothing to do with the state of this union.

  44. Phoenix says:

    Steven Seagal has sparked fury after claiming both sides of the Ukraine war are ‘one family’ and blaming an ‘outside entity’ for spreading propaganda against the Russian invasion.

    The actor, 69, who is a friend of Vladimir Putin and was granted Russian citizenship in 2016, said he is hoping for a ‘peaceful resolution’ after forces invaded Ukraine last week.

    The Kremlin apologist, who was appointed as a special envoy for humanitarian ties with the US in 2018, previously supported Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014 and praised Putin as ‘one of the great living world leaders’.

  45. Phoenix says:

    Pumpkin is right.

    It’s what happened.

  46. Ex says:

    Biden is doing just fine.

  47. Fast Eddie says:

    I’m hoping Brandon surrounds himself with seasoned and experienced men, makes sound decisions and relays those messages coherently. Enough of the children’s play of arguing over bathrooms, what gender I feel like today, pink lives matter and any other form of bread and circuses. Focus!

  48. Grim says:

    We are going to lose communications with Ukraine soon. Lots of chatter on social media about warnings of pending cruise missile strikes on communications infrastructure. Blackout is a real possibility. The first war that unfolded, and played out on social media in real time.

  49. Ex says:

    VLADIMIR Putin’s “propaganda chief” has threatened the West with nuclear annihilation during a rambling broadcast on Russian TV.

    News anchor Dmitry Kiselyov told viewers across Russia’s 11 time zones that the West would be blown to smithereens with “more than 500 nuclear warheads” if it continued to threat Moscow.

  50. Libturd says:

    I think the bigger question the West needs to ask themselves at this point is what will the strategy be (if any) when Ukraine falls? From my perch, we just let Mother Russia get away with it again. Putin wins.

    As is typical with international affairs, playing the wait and see game never works quite as well as a proactive approach. The West should have called Putin’s hand when they saw that an invasion was inevitable or the moment it started. This would have given Putin an easy out. He could have backed down and used his newfound leverage to both strengthen Russia’s perception of him and to gain some political mojo and perhaps some economic incentives. Instead, the West’s decision to use sanctions against a country with a rich history of getting by with nothing, will only hurt those with little. The oligarchs will continue to do just fine.

  51. Phoenix says:

    Blackout is a real possibility

    Well, you still have Netflix and Amazon Prime.

  52. Ex says:

    I wouldn’t be shocked to see Biden address the nuclear threat but use that really strange “whisper voice” he uses.

  53. Hold my beer says:

    Fast

    This is my pick for bidens re-election theme song. IMO the Title is perfect for most politicians from both parties

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tg2uF3R_Ozo

  54. Phoenix says:

    Someone up there must believe this or NATO and American troops would be there fighting now. I don’t see any Western country even thinking about joining this fight. There is a reason for this.

    “News anchor Dmitry Kiselyov told viewers across Russia’s 11 time zones that the West would be blown to smithereens with “more than 500 nuclear warheads” if it continued to threat Moscow.”

  55. Phoenix says:

    Yup.

    Instead, the West’s decision to use sanctions against a country with a rich history of getting by with nothing, will only hurt those with little. The oligarchs will continue to do just fine.

  56. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Another international crises unfolds and Joe heads of to rehobeth to catch up on some zzzs. Get leadership. I’m sure they’ll write books about it.

  57. Grim says:

    The ghost of Kyiv Neville Chamberlain.

  58. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Honestly, can anyone make sense of the market right now? How it is so high? I don’t get it.

  59. Fast Eddie says:

    So, there’s nothing being reported on ANY type of sabotage along that 40 mile long Russian military convoy? Not a bridge destroyed, a tanker at the front of the line blown up, nothing? It’s lined up, 40 miles long, in view, waiting to be bombed. What am I missing?

  60. Grim says:

    They are within Russian held territory.

    Likely a trap with plenty of anti-aircraft weaponry.

    Ukraine can’t afford to lose drones by sending them up to take out 3-4 vehicles at a time.

    Heard someone this morning say a lot of the vehicles appear to be unarmored troop carriers, but they see no evidence of them actually being filled with troops, because most of the convoy is actually stopped. Are they empty?

  61. Fast Eddie says:

    Or, is it a setup? A trap… an excuse for Putin to pull the west directly into it?

  62. Libturd says:

    Fast Eddie,

    Probably a convoy of Migs which are circling the convoy on the ground.

  63. Grim says:

    Enough carriers for a few thousand men, but no signs of the thousands of men.

    Where are they eating, sleeping, or shitting?

    Not to mention, those are tarp covered trucks, it’s freezing, and it snowed last night.

    If those trucks are filled with troops, they must be fucking miserable.

  64. Grim says:

    Keep in mind, we have been talking about that convoy for two full days now.

  65. Libturd says:

    Pumps,

    Patience. See Crypto? Nothing goes straight up or straight down. The downtrend is still clear and relatively organized.

    https://yhoo.it/3svWsKg

  66. Phoenix says:

    Pumps.

    Never let a good crisis go to waste.

    That’s why.

    Money is made during turmoil.

  67. Phoenix says:

    Pumps,

    Every defense contractor is salivating right now.

    Would put Pavlov’s dog to shame.

  68. Libturd says:

    Crude is at $102.

    Hello recession.

  69. Libturd says:

    “What is the relationship between oil price and stock market?
    An increase in oil prices usually lowers the expected rate of economic growth and increases inflation expectations over shorter horizons. Decreasing economic growth prospects, in turn, lower companies’ earnings expectations, resulting in a dampening effect on stock prices.”

  70. Grim says:

    Cruise missile strikes on central Kyiv now.

  71. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Thanks, Lib.

    Look at this. Supply chain is f’ed.

    “The world’s biggest container ship operators—A.P. Moller-Maersk A/S and Mediterranean Shipping Co.—said they would temporarily suspend services to Russian ports, including those far from the conflict in Ukraine.

    Maersk said Tuesday it was halting bookings in light of the sanctions imposed on Russia, including congestion being caused by customs authorities inspecting cargo bound for the country and changing credit terms impacting its customers. Maersk and MSC said they would continue to move foodstuffs to and from Russia.

    The Russian invasion of Ukraine is causing major disruptions for the global shipping industry, with hundreds of vessels trapped at ports, cargo being derailed and freight rates surging.

    The cargo ship Mustafa Necati was ready last week to set sail from a port near Odessa, Ukraine, with sunflower seed oil bound for Sardinia. After Russia invaded, “the Ukrainian port authorities told the crew to stop,” said Bulent Dandin, a director of the ship’s Istanbul manager Statu Gemi Kiralama. “Now it’s blocked.””

  72. Phoenix says:

    ‘We should string you up by a lamp post right now!’ Moment two men chase Nevada Governor Steve Sisolak and his family out of a Las Vegas restaurant
    ‘You working-for-China son of a b***h’ one of the men says to Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak and his wife, Kathy. ‘We should string you up by a lamp post right now’
    The claim echoed a recurrent conspiracy theory espoused by some Republicans and anti-Sisolak, anti-mask activists
    Last August, an official claimed that Kathy had family in China profiting from selling COVID PPE and had persuaded her husband to reinstate mask mandate
    Nevada State Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Kim Yoko Smith confirmed that state police are investigating

  73. Libturd says:

    Phoenix,

    A butterfly farm on the Texas Mexico border that has been in existence sing long before the Great Wall of Trump was even conceived had to be shut down due to security issues that arose once Republican’s conjured up a lie about it being a sex trafficking front. Not saying the Dems don’t play the same games (pissing dossier anyone). But the absurdity of the conspiracies and the willingness of the disciples to believe this sh1t and even act violently due to it is where it becomes dangerous. None the less, I am not surprised one bit that people would.

  74. SmallGovConservative says:

    Ex says:
    March 1, 2022 at 9:18 am
    “Biden is doing just fine.”

    Spoken like a true cuck.

  75. Bystander says:

    Lib,

    Sure but let me know when hundreds of liberals gather waiting on the ghost of John Heinz to bring them to p&ssing dossier.

  76. JCer says:

    Grim, Neville Chamberlain? We started this fight, the West provoked the Russians. This has been going on for 8 years. When instead of pulling back and telling the Ukrainians to make make nice with Russia for their own good, we doubled down with threats, sanctions, lethal aid, and rhetoric. I’m sorry even without Putin, with a more reasonable Russian leader we would have issues with Russia because of OUR provocations, I don’t even know if Yeltsin “the drunk” would have stood for this. Again what would our response be if Russia got involved in a civil war in Canada and was supplying arms to the “democratically elected” anti-american side?

  77. SmallGovConservative says:

    JCer says:
    March 1, 2022 at 10:36 am
    “We started this fight, the West provoked the Russians…”

    How do you explain the timing of Putin’s moves on Ukraine? He invaded when Oblama was prez (14), did nothing when T was prez (16-20), and then invaded again with Joe as prez (22). If we’ve been provoking him throughout, why did he not do anything to Ukraine while T was prez? Please don’t say it’s just coincidence.

  78. The Great Pumpkin says:

    TOKYO— Toyota TM -0.16% Motor Corp.’s Japan factories were set to reopen Wednesday morning after a one-day shutdown that reflected the company’s culture of caution.

    At Toyota factories, any worker who spots a potential problem generally has the power to bring the entire line to a halt. The idea is that less time is ultimately wasted by stopping work to fix the problem right away.

    The company applied that practice dating to the 20th century when it was hit this week with a 21st-century problem—a cyberattack that paralyzed one of its suppliers. Plastic-parts maker Kojima Industries Corp. said it realized early Monday evening that it couldn’t operate as usual on Tuesday, and it quickly relayed that news to its main customer, Toyota.

    So Toyota hit the stop button for a whole day. Its 14 factories in Japan didn’t build any cars Tuesday.

    “It’s better to stop and figure out what the problem is, rather than to continue working while worrying that something might go wrong,” said a Toyota spokesman.

    The company said production would resume Wednesday. The daylong shutdown was the latest woe for Toyota after problems with semiconductor supplies.

  79. The Great Pumpkin says:

    They helped put Trump in office with the hope he would divide our nation and start a civil war. Came pretty damn close.

    “How do you explain the timing of Putin’s moves on Ukraine? He invaded when Oblama was prez (14), did nothing when T was prez (16-20), and then invaded again with Joe as prez (22). If we’ve been provoking him throughout, why did he not do anything to Ukraine while T was prez? Please don’t say it’s just coincidence.”

  80. Fast Eddie says:

    They helped put Trump in office with the hope he would divide our nation and start a civil war.

    Right. Trump’s real name is Vikenti Ostrovsky!

  81. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Fast, you have anger in the left and right….the trigger is Trump. You had city streets destroyed and our capital attacked by our own people. Now you know why the Russians helped put him in office. Trump created a ton of anger in our country, between families and friends. Lot of relationships lost due to his rhetoric.

  82. Libturd says:

    Please don’t say it’s just coincidence.

    Ummm. Oil prices?

    If you stop looking through the lens of how do we blame everything on the Democrats, you might discover that there’s more to Russia’s actions then worrying about what the Americans will do. Same with China.

    Do you think when America decides to defend Kuwait, Bush considers who is serving in Moscow?

  83. BRT says:

    Promoting bad energy policy that hurts people is unethical. Even if you mean well

    Outcomes > Intentions

    Decent quote on this situation. The fastest way out of this is drill baby drill for the US, EU, and Canada. And in the meantime, stop shutting down our nuclear power plants.

  84. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I knew it. Only a matter of time. People that moved to remote locations are going to realize the mistake they made. Drove up real estate in remote locations, and will now be left holding the bag.

    “Companies Seize On March as a Moment to Reopen the Office

    With Omicron cases falling, Citi, American Express, Cisco Systems and others say they spot a window to bring workers back together”

    “The office return is in motion.

    After two years of remote work, companies including American Express Co. AXP -5.69% , Facebook parent Meta Platforms Inc. and Wells Fargo & Co. plan broader office reopenings in March. Many executives say they are uncertain about what the future may hold, but feel confident that offices can at least reopen this month as Omicron cases fall and health authorities loosen mask guidance.

    At this point in the pandemic, “we’re looking at moments,” said Francine Katsoudas, chief people officer at Cisco Systems Inc., CSCO -1.17% which is reopening its U.S. offices on March 1. “This is a moment where our employees can come in.”

    Like many employers, Cisco had planned to reopen its offices far sooner. A small number of its U.S. employees returned last summer, and the company had scheduled a broader return for February of this year. That got pushed back too, following the nationwide surge of cases tied to the Omicron variant. A few weeks ago, Cisco’s medical director pointed to a steep drop in cases, and executives felt confident the company could safely convene, Ms. Katsoudas said.

    Should cases rise once more or other circumstances call for sending employees home, the company can adapt, she said. Cisco used to ask teams to map out their work schedules over the coming 90 days; Ms. Katsoudas said the company now considers that too long of a time horizon. Instead, she encourages teams to plan in 30-day increments.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/companies-see-an-opening-for-office-reopening-11646130602?mod=hp_lead_pos4

  85. JCer says:

    SmallGov, it’s not a coincidence. There are a few things in play, first the change in leadership in Ukraine, Putin has bigger problems with Zelenskyy than with the Poroshenko Government, who despite being VERY pro-western used softer rhetoric.

    The other is the dumb energy policy of the Biden administration, and the recent deal with the Chinese. Basically I think the pieces came into place enough that Putin felt he could escalate tensions without being totally economically incapacitated. Furthermore as Biden was implicated in the provocations that began in 2013, Putin wants there to be a mess under his watch.

    So it is is a confluence of circumstances that allowed this to happen. Plus Putin’s personal distaste for Biden(who was involved in the initiation of the Ukraine crisis) and Zelenskyy(a comedian who had one of his programs banned from Russian television because there were a lot of jokes about Putin’s $exual proclivities). I think Trump had a better relationship with Putin, where Putin views Biden/Obama as weak men.

  86. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, when that labor market turns…watch out for that whip.

    ““People are certainly comfortable doing a lot of things in person, yet they’re not coming back to the office. So I do think the tight labor market is impacting business leaders’ willingness to be more aggressive about having their employees come back to work,” said Owen D. Thomas, CEO of office landlord Boston Properties Inc., on a call with analysts at the end of January.”

  87. Libturd says:

    Yes BRT. And make Crypto illegal here. I sometimes wonder where more criminal blood money is stored? In Swiss Banks or BitCoin?

  88. Grim says:

    Say goodbye to Ukraine, they go dark now. Communications infrastructure being systematically destroyed across the country. TV, Radio, Cell, Internet.

  89. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Grim,

    Now the real war begins. Would not want to be there right now.

  90. Grim says:

    Putin didn’t like how the information war was going.

  91. JCer says:

    The Russians had absolutely nothing to do with Trump being elected. Trump simply had a better working relationship with the horrible dictators of third world backwaters. If you look at Trump he kind of has this “cult of personality” thing going on which is something these despots and dictators love and respect. These “leaders” had more respect for Trump none of them respect Obama/Biden. I don’t even think it’s because of policy just personality dynamics. I think Bill Clinton had a heck of a lot more international respect than Obama/Biden and George Bush and Reagan surely had international respect where Carter had none. And lets not confuse dependence with respect, even Ukrainian leadership doesn’t respect the Biden admin but they are wholly dependent.

  92. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So hacking Clinton’s emails that resulted in the FBI director coming out in a speech the week of an election is nothing. It was the nail in the coffin for Hillary. Trump ate it up and never stopped attacking from there on out. It confirmed to Trumpers that fake news is real and the swamp must be taken out. It sure as hell led to his election win. Never mind the russian bots stirring people up with trump on social media.

    JCer says:
    March 1, 2022 at 11:31 am
    The Russians had absolutely nothing to do with Trump being elected. Trump simply had a better working relationship with the horrible dictators of third world backwaters

  93. JCer says:

    The gloves are coming off. As John Mearsheimer indicated years ago Russia would go scorched earth to avoid Ukraine aligning with the west. If Russia cannot take the territory they are intent to destroy it, I think this is because of the limited success the Russians were having with their invasion so now they will heap misery on the Ukrainians until they capitulate. I don’t think Putin is above war crimes nor do I think he is above starting a nuclear war if Russia cannot win the conventional conflict.

  94. Libturd says:

    Pumps,

    Those things are true and I agree with JCer about the cult of personality thing. Russian’s messing with our social media is no different than Democrats forcing paper ballots. Both are legal strategies. I for one, always vote by mail and think everyone should. It’s so much easier too. Though, I might be biased as I work for a company that produces those paper ballots.

    Do I think Trump’s friendship with Putin had anything to do with waiting to invade the Ukraine? Maybe the littlest bit. Though, I do put the blame on Biden and NATO for not acting to defend the Ukraine’s sovereignty. They could have put a peacekeeping force on the ground with a sworn intent to not allow the Ukraine to become part of NATO and run the campaign strictly as a war deterrent. Now, it’s an EAST vs. WEST war, or accept that Putin outsmarted us again. Even though he may have bankrupted his country to do it.

  95. BRT says:

    The email wiki leak, you don’t know the source. The FBI announcement was based off of recovered emails they obtained from Anthony Weiner’s laptop. Do you honestly believe everyone magically switched their vote from Blue to Red that last week?

  96. leftwing says:

    “Right now, we could have done it a month ago. Same for Europe. The reality is, the EU is funding this war with their energy purchases.”

    ‘…the EU is funding this war with its sustainable energy politics.’ There, fixed that for you.

    “Ten year is back down to 1.73?”

    Approaching T minus zero, likely measured in hours not days. Flight to safety, less to do with inflation/rate expectations. VIX at 33. Everyone just sitting around watching the icicle melt until it breaks from the roof.

  97. Libturd says:

    JCer,

    Only Americans are imperialist enough to use nukes. The West can’t be scared of the threat of their use. Not during the Bay of Pigs, not now, not ever. War crimes are one thing. The use of nukes would essentially remove Russia from existence. As crazy as Putin is about his image. I don’t think he has the motives of a terrorist. Which is why Iran can’t ever be trusted.

  98. JCer says:

    Pumps you really are that gullible….there was no evidence of a “Russian hack”. Those emails were leaked from internal sources to the Wikileaks people. Most news is “fake”, they sell the narrative their masters want them to sell.

  99. Libturd says:

    “Everyone just sitting around watching the icicle melt until it breaks from the roof.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HmHho-iQnM

  100. Bystander says:

    Why did Osama wait for an R Bush to enter office before performing the most heinous attack of all time on this country? He must have sensed the weakness when R came into power.

  101. JCer says:

    Lib, it removes us from existence as well. During the bay of pigs the fear was real but it was diplomacy that ended it and it was diplomacy that respected the political realities on all sides. Cooler minds must prevail today.

    Putin is an old man, does he want to turn the earth into glass? Most assuredly not but there is a scenario where it does happen. Not only that there is the possibility of a conventional strike against the US or Western Europe. If the conflict escalates enough and Russia is on the brink of defeat I think he might do it.

  102. 3b says:

    Pumps Maybe you should crack the whip on yourself instead of posting here all the time.

  103. JCer says:

    Bystander you are making my fcuking argument for me. As I indicated Clinton had much more international respect than GW Bush, also for “their plan” to work they needed someone stupid enough(neocons) to be goaded into never ending middle east wars rather than the measured responses Clinton was known for. Bringing terror to american soil was only a small part of it, they needed us to destabilize the middle east so they could restore sharia law to a larger area.

  104. Libturd says:

    JCer,

    I don’t. This is not the cold war. Putin won this Chess match. Trump would have lost too. Europe has a lot more responsibility than we do.

  105. grim says:

    Hold on, this is very much is the cold war.

    Russia, a permanent member of the UN security council, violated all international law by invading the sovereign territory of another country with the intent to overthrow it’s government. Not only that, it is currently devolving into all out war with massive civilian casualties, on a scale we have not seen since WW2.

    All rule of international law is null and void at this point. What’s the point of the UN anymore? Putin and his cronies have pissed all over it, and continue to.

  106. Bystander says:

    ..or maybe JCer, that was just the window of opportunity for the attack and unrelated to R/D in office. Maybe the US military industrial complex was salivating over big war money and just needed a reason. Sure seems so.

  107. Bystander says:

    Diplomacy with one country mocks another, generally belittles the culture/history and where the financial disparity is massive is not diplomacy. It is generally a temporary photo op. They hate us, so does CAN and MX. Glad Trump created those photo ops for the Rs. Add it to the ‘his accomplishments’ text file.

  108. Boomer Remover says:

    Phoenix, No One is right. You have come across as a bit unhinged these last few days. Just an external observation.

  109. leftwing says:

    LOL, thanks Lib…just call me Herb the Gardner….

    BTW, you nail it here….

    “Though, I do put the blame on Biden and NATO for not acting to defend the Ukraine’s sovereignty. They could have put a peacekeeping force on the ground…and run the campaign strictly as a war deterrent.”

    Neither the US nor Russia is going to initiate war against the other, ie. attack their troops. Even the youngest, most starry eyed Bowdoin intern in the Admin knows that. Having Zelensky invite NATO troops into Ukraine – for what doesn’t matter, just get 5/10 or so thousand on his soil – would have meant that when Russia starts the shooting they are shooting on US/NATO.

    We obviously took a pass on that move over the four weeks Russia massed on the border and we ran around screeching invasion was imminent.

    There is and was no intention ever of committing US/NATO forces for Ukraine.

    Drip, drip, drip….boom.

  110. Libturd says:

    Boomer Remover,

    True unhinged or just TDS unhinged?

    Though I agree with what you are saying. Phoenix, you may want to drop some boilerplate or something so we know you are mentally stable. I know you and think you probably are. But some of the stuff you are coming up with lately are just downright shocking to the core.

  111. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, I do. The FBI director who never publicly speaks to the public, comes out a couple of days before the election to say that Hillary is under investigation. If you don’t think this impacted how people voted, then how do you explain trump losing re-election against an opponent that hid the entire election and said nothing.

    BRT says:
    March 1, 2022 at 11:42 am
    The email wiki leak, you don’t know the source. The FBI announcement was based off of recovered emails they obtained from Anthony Weiner’s laptop. Do you honestly believe everyone magically switched their vote from Blue to Red that last week?

  112. Libturd says:

    “All rule of international law is null and void at this point. What’s the point of the UN anymore?”

    Exactly my point. The UN and NATO are useless and have been for decades.

  113. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Don’t hate the messenger.

    3b says:
    March 1, 2022 at 12:04 pm
    Pumps Maybe you should crack the whip on yourself instead of posting here all the time.

  114. Boomer Remover says:

    Pumpkin 11:20 AM – Did you really just re post a post you made a day or three ago? Stop fkn spamming this place with your Apple news feed.

  115. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Well, that fake news got trump elected. Again, why didn’t he win re-election against an inferior opponent than the previous election?

    JCer says:
    March 1, 2022 at 11:48 am
    Pumps you really are that gullible….there was no evidence of a “Russian hack”. Those emails were leaked from internal sources to the Wikileaks people. Most news is “fake”, they sell the narrative their masters want them to sell.

  116. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You miserable f/k. It was from the WSJ today. Go fk yourself.

    Boomer Remover says:
    March 1, 2022 at 12:50 pm
    Pumpkin 11:20 AM – Did you really just re post a post you made a day or three ago? Stop fkn spamming this place with your Apple news feed.

  117. 3b says:

    Pumps: Nah I don’t , but for one who repeatedly claims you don’t care about it and it does not impact your obsession with it suggests otherwise. By the way Citi already has a permanent hybrid/ fully remote program already in place. My friend goes in twice a month the rest of the time is WFH.

  118. 3b says:

    Didn’t young Bush look into Putin s eyes and see his soul, and said he could trust him.

  119. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    I don’t really care what you say. I am sticking to my gut on this WFH call. Once the labor market changes, no more sitting at home collecting a paycheck. Don’t hate me for the message, I have no control over it. I just know how a business owner thinks. They only care about the business and not the worker.

  120. 3b says:

    Apparent talk of a no fly zone over Ukraine is false. That would mean all out war with NATO.

  121. Libturd says:

    And thanks Leftwing. I think you finally GET me. Believe me, I’m closer to 3B and BRT in thought than I am Flab and By. Though I love everyone equally. An establishment politician is just as dangerous as a religious fundamentalist. Maybe MORE dangerous.

    Speaking of religious fundamentalists, there is a group of pro lifers (mostly gray old ladies bearing crosses) that stands in front of a clinic in Montclair about half of the times I drive past. I always make a point to slow down and ask them all to have babies with me so my life-bringing sperm does not go to waste. Oh, how they first blush, and then get angry. One of these days, I’m going to get myself in trouble.

    And the main signals that I watch to ensure a healthy market are all completely out of whack today. See silver for example? I know a lot of it is the collapse of the ruble and the conversion by the oligarchs remaining rubles into Krypto. Though, I’m really guessing that any day now, Powell is going to announce that the economy is going to slow itself down (lie) and will pull the plug on asset purchasing AND raising FED Lending rates. Inflation may just be getting a bit out of control here.

  122. dollarbill says:

    US Treasury I bonds are looking better every day.

  123. 3b says:

    Pumps: Your gut means nothing, and your ignorant and obnoxious with tour comment that people are sitting home doing nothing. How dare you insult people like that. WFH terrifies you and I know why, and contrary to your protestations that it is does not.

    And you of all people claiming people sitting home getting a paycheck doing nothing, while you sit on this blog every day for years collecting a paycheck. Self awareness is sorely lacking with you.

  124. SmallGovConservative says:

    Bystander says:
    March 1, 2022 at 11:59 am
    “Why did Osama wait for an R Bush to enter office before performing the most heinous attack …”

    The last of a long list of terrorist attacks that Clinton ignored; just reinforces the fact that appeasement — whether it be terrorists or despots — never works, and that Dems cannot be trusted to keep Americans safe.

    1993 World Trade Center bombing — “was a terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in New York City, carried out on February 26, 1993…”
    1998 United States embassy bombings — “attacks that occurred on August 7, 1998. More than 200 people were killed…”
    USS Cole bombing — “was a suicide attack by the terrorist group al-Qaeda against USS Cole, a guided missile destroyer of the United States Navy, on 12 October 2000…”

  125. Libturd says:

    “US Treasury I bonds are looking better every day.”

    For those with money to burn, I would definitely put as much of my non invested money into them as I could. The tax treatment is great too and it’s a great portfolio diversifier. Though, it’s a shame you are limited by how much you can buy.

  126. Libturd says:

    SGC,

    I see you have learned nothing from my advice.

  127. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    Leave my personal life out of the debate over wfh. Why do you always make it personal? Grow up. Again, my wife’s company needs her, not the other way around. The company doesn’t own her, so why you assume I take my position on WFH based on her working for a REIT blows my mind. That company’s stock has not moved. If WFH was really going to destroy commercial property, don’t you think her company would already be bankrupt with a stock worth nothing? Wake up.

  128. 3b says:

    Russia shells main TV tower in Kyiv, Kharkiv being destroyed.

  129. grim says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu4oy1IRTh8

    These mist covered mountains
    Are a home now for me
    But my home is the lowlands
    And always will be
    Someday you’ll return to
    Your valleys and your farms
    And you’ll no longer burn to be
    Brothers in arms
    Through these fields of destruction
    Baptisms of fire
    I’ve witnessed your suffering
    As the battle raged high
    And though they did hurt me so bad
    In the fear and alarm
    You did not desert me
    My brothers in arms
    There’s so many different worlds
    So many different suns
    And we have just one world
    But we live in different ones
    Now the sun’s gone to hell and
    The moon’s riding high
    Let me bid you farewell
    Every man has to die
    But it’s written in the starlight
    And every line in your palm
    We’re fools to make war
    On our brothers in arms

  130. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I didn’t post once yesterday? Go eat a dick. You are gullible if you think everyone WFH is sitting there working non-stop. Wake up.

    “And you of all people claiming people sitting home getting a paycheck doing nothing, while you sit on this blog every day for years collecting a paycheck. Self awareness is sorely lacking with you.”

  131. 3b says:

    Pumps: Keep lying to yourself. As I said in spite of your protestations to the contrary your hostility to WFH is evident. Proof? People sitting home doing nothing getting a paycheck. Have a magical day!!

  132. The Great Pumpkin says:

    If you are going to call me out for posting during the day, then don’t post during the day either. WTF are you doing that you have time to post?

  133. dollarbill says:

    Yes, the $10K max/year ($15K if including federal tax refund amounts used to purchase up to $5K in “paper” bonds) on US I bonds limits your investment but you can still gift them to family members. Per the Treasury:

    How much in I bonds can I buy as gifts?

    The purchase amount of a gift bond counts toward the annual limit of the recipient, not the giver. So, in a calendar year, you can buy up to $10,000 in electronic bonds and up to $5,000 in paper bonds for each person you buy for.

  134. grim says:

    Also a great version:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3_HTGdLXL4

    Fitting, but ironic since the song is about UK fighting an undeclared war to regain the Falkland Islands from Argentina.

  135. grim says:

    Funny, a comment 8 days ago on that 2nd youtube video link:

    “Listen to this as those in power prepare to do it again as we stand helpless”

  136. leftwing says:

    Lib, I always get you, just not necessarily always agree ;)

    Don’t know if you saw but threw some congrats your boy’s way…looks like a tight game last night, good win. Would really like to make Thurs.

    “Apparent talk of a no fly zone over Ukraine is false. That would mean all out war with NATO.”

    And with US initiating war the with Russia, ie. we shooting down their pilots….

  137. Libturd says:

    He was not on the ice for any goals against. What’s new? Saw the compliments. Thanks. Next game is Thursday against arguably their toughest opponent of the year. Morris Knolls. Then on to the Prudential Center.

  138. 3b says:

    Left: We’re that to happen than it’s all over. Putin takes the world down with him. Devastating scenes of destruction right now in Kharkiv. Putin will ultimately win, and then what? How does he occupy a county that size, and with such resistance. How does the county rebuild ? Will the EU and US provide aid to a puppet Russian government in Ukraine? Does this war destroy Russia financially/ economically in the end?

    Lots to play out here.

  139. Fast Eddie says:

    Gold, silver and crude uncoupling.

  140. leftwing says:

    Knolls is tough usually, generally and physically….Mennen or SMA?

  141. Libturd says:

    SMA. Or what is now known as Codey. It’s only a matter of time before they name one of the rinks after Joey D.

  142. leftwing says:

    3b, agree, which is why a no-fly zone (a real one, not a feel good one for MSM) won’t happen….

    To Lib’s point, we took a pass on the most politically palatable way to put just a toe directly in involvement – sending in a multi-country NATO force before Russia moved so they would be forced to fire on us if they breached.

    If we folded that hand with a King and Ace before the flop no way we go all in on a four and six now.

  143. Libturd says:

    Boomers gonna boom.

  144. Libturd says:

    Lib,

    The West’s complacency speaks volumes of the façade that was supposed to be our healthy and overheating stock market. I wonder what the FED will claim needs to be stress-tested next?

    Come to papa.

  145. 3b says:

    Left: I agree.

  146. Libturd says:

    Meant Left. Now I am speaking to myself on the internet. Houston, I may have a problem.

  147. grim says:

    How does he occupy a county that size, and with such resistance.

    Just like he did Russia?

    He had 6000+ people arrested for protesting the war, there are more political prisoners rotting in gulags than ever before in history. He openly assassinates, poisons anyone who goes against him. Ukraine? Why should that be a problem?

  148. leftwing says:

    Lib, brother, wish you were active futures….spot VIX approaching 35, March expiry over 32….may get a serious spike on Russian full out attack but this is literally the one ‘security’ actually guaranteed to revert to mean….

    Also, I mentioned shorting oil over 100 or on event….they may all align, WTI is through now, we have Biden tonight, JPow in Congress tomorrow, and the Russians most likely 24-48 hours away from their major thrust…

    When the Russians hit I’ll be fact dependent but I likely wait to see if we actually embargo Russian oil and then sell that…..no way the world will stand by for months trying to operate their economies at 120+/barrel once the cities are flattened and government overthrown…what’s the point….suburban moms won’t tolerate 6.00+/gallon gas for the summer driving season any more than the Germans will tolerate 10.00 per once the shooting stops.

  149. 3b says:

    Grim: Fair points, but the Russians for the most part are passive, the Ukrainians are not. It’s one thing for a country to have a dictatorship in its own country with a mostly passive population. It’s quiet another thing to occupy a country with a hostile population. And if the west continues to supply weapons, the Ukrainians can fight a sustained guerrilla war for years, that in my view bleeds Russia dry. That’s what happened in Afghanistan when they tried to occupy that country.

  150. Hold my beer says:

    This guy walked past me today. He’s walking across America and is now in DFW area. Maybe he will get to Jersey in a few months.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eXgnxc7R8d8

  151. Boomer Remover says:

    This discussion is focused solely on theories of Russia’s nuclear strategy going forward and it’s a good interview. Thus far only non-strategic and deterrent forces have been put on alert. They guy seems to know a thing or two about the subject:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtFYrui3UEk

  152. crushednjmillenial says:

    A UN or NATO “tripwire” is really dangerous (sending troops in as peacekeepers). While it worked to some extent in Syria, it’s still just a really dangerous game. Unlike Syria, Ukraine’s geogrpahical position makes controlling it central to Russia’s geopolitics, From what I understand any purposeful explosive or projectile force between Russia and the US escalates to nuclear armagaddean (pursuant to all conventional war games, etc).

    Ukraine is a former Soviet nation. It is within Russia’s sphere of influence. NATO advanced toward Russia while it was weak – each step east was more dangerous (Poland, Slovakia and Hungary line = defensible and smart; Baltics = dangerous as heck). So, the US was the aggressor here with respect to a lot of this situation by overgrabbing European territory under the NATO umbrella. Notwithstanding US aggression, Putin overreacted threw away his smart geopolitical moves of the last two decades in one day when he went into Ukraine hard. He showed the world that the Russian military isn’t as strong as believed. He made Russia an isolated pariah state for the next generation, minimum.

    All of the above is FROM A GEOPOLITICAL PERSPECTIVE – cold calculating to increase a nation’s power and protect it from a diminishment in its power. From a moral perspective, Putin is obviously a disgusting mass murderer (so, is G.W. Bush and all other US Presidents). It’s hard to even start thinking about statecraft and geopoltiics if you are simulatenously tihnking about the human individuals that must suffer for it.

  153. leftwing says:

    I don’t understand whatever language Lukashenko is speaking but that general standing up looks like he thinks he’s about to take a round to the head lol.

  154. grim says:

    Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania were lucky enough to get under the EU/NATO umbrella.

    Poland was never part of this calculus, but Ukraine was clearly next. Meaning, strike now or forever lose the chance.

  155. grim says:

    Belarus is clearly a puppet state completely under Putin’s control

  156. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Putin has been popular in Russia despite his heavy handed ness. Maybe not this war at this time but they chose Putin.

    This is also the society that chose Bolshevism and slavery. The gulags saw 20,000,000 prisoners, over 2,000,000 of which died.

    There is something sadist about the Russian mind. They are accustomed to suffering and life is cheap relative to western standards.

    They are claiming they don’t want an occupation but my hunch is they would be willing to in order to achieve their goals.

    I think the key question is hire much pro Russian vs pro NATO sentiment exists. That’s hard to tell.

  157. grim says:

    When many look back on the glory days of the soviet union, keep in mind that most of that glory was actually the Ukraine – education, engineering, industrial and farm productivity.

  158. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Yeah. I don’t know if I would take credit for any of it. It was all so backwards. From an outsider looking in, I agree with segals assessment, it’s family infighting.

  159. crushednjmillenial says:

    Best Ukraine war content I’ve found. From watching cable news, it is raelly difficult to understand what is going on militarily. From watching social media, it is hard to know where on the map. This puts those things together . . .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAVXebmZUqA

  160. Libturd says:

    If you are planning on watching my son play. :P

    https://www.njsiaa.org/tickets

    It’s also going to be livestreamed on NJ.com

  161. Ex says:

    This whole thing is heartbreaking.

  162. Ex says:

    What difference does it make “who” Putin “likes” better???

  163. Ex says:

    Can’t make right unless you know wrong:

    https://youtu.be/1ebH37eg0HE

  164. Capt_Cuck says:

    10:27 viola – my new ID inspired by this specimen .

  165. Fabius Maximus says:

    Wow, I go out of pocket for a week and come back to this level of discourse. JCer, Neutrality made me lose my coffee and I think gets you the Billy Madison award. Ukraise are going nowhere without a fight. Those grandparents lived under the Red flag and will have drilled it into their kids to never go back.

    There are three types of people that were cheerleading Vlad, The Ideologues Tulsi etc. Those that are true left DSA etc and then those on the right that like the White Sup and authoritarian side.
    Those on the payroll. Lots of Dark Money that just dried up. That and the twitter blackout means that a lot of people not getting paid for messaging or not receiving what to say will finally STFU.
    Those being blackmailed.
    Groups two and three is pretty much sums up the current GOP. They are all doing a 180 now that he’s losing and getting called out for it. https://twitter.com/AoDespair/status/1498508256515440642

    Great Job by Joe and the admin. Calling the playbook before the invasion and those sanctions really hurt. When you have Abramovich high tailing it to Belarus for the ceasefire talks and trying to give Chelsea football club to his charity, you know its hitting home. Also all the Oligarchs getting told to send 80% of their foreign Reserves back, shows how deep it goes.

    Vlad expected Shock and AWE and got AWE Shucks. The firings happened over the weekend. Now we’ll get to see where he goes next. Scorched Earth Maybe. But the cratering economy at home means his biggest fear will be getting dragged out like Gadhafi, and beaten to a pulp. Its now a search for an exit strategy.

  166. Hold my beer says:

    Crushed

    The guy with the tattooed arms is a former army sniper. He has a fishing channel called lunkerstv and is part of the googan squad. That’s a bunch of YouTubers with fishing channels got together and launched their own bait line and merch.

  167. 3b says:

    Lib: Congratulations to your Son!

  168. No One says:

    Nice quotes from Oliver Stone earlier in February. Good representative of the “blame America first” crowd in Hollywood. Ukraine is America’s fault, and Putin’s actions have been defensive, just a guy trying to keep his job.

    “No one really knows what’s going on in the actual sense of being in Russia’s mind,” Stone tells Scheer, “but I do think, from the beginning, this has been a defensive maneuver from the Russian side. The United States and its allies in NATO have been provoking Russia [and] have been using Ukraine as bait, as a temperature-taker of that region [since 2014]. Now we’ve reached this place where they have threatened the Russians so much that they had to react, because I don’t think Putin could have stayed in office if he had not reacted.”

  169. No One says:

    NJ history teachers have accomplished their mission. CrushedNJMillennial cannot discern a difference between Putin and any other American president in history going back to George Washington. All just mass murderers.

  170. chicagofinance says:

    re: “(1) you don’t know for a fact what the future holds;”
    10 hits 168.2 bps today

    chicagofinance says:
    February 23, 2022 at 7:22 pm
    Not that I would, but 2 things: (1) you don’t know for a fact what the future holds; (2) “rising rates” depends on what you mean….. if you mean government securities, then it COULD be a sure loser, but with spread product, the price movement in crappy credits is not necessarily dominated by the underlying.

    In theory, a savvy asset manager should be able to find opportunities in any conditions.

    Nomad says:
    February 23, 2022 at 5:06 pm
    Chi, In a rise rate environment, why would anyone buy a mutual bond fund? Even ultra short duration will drop.

  171. crushednjmillenial says:

    No one at 5:01 . . .

    First, do you believe that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is morally different than the US invasion of Iraq? Even if so, do you take issue with calling G.W. Bush a mass murderer (100,000+ Iraqis died following the US invastion)?

    Biden – done strikes. Trump – drone strikes. Obama – drone strikes. Bush – drone strikes. Boom goes a massive amount of civilians – at weddings, at the market, in their homes, everywhere. Each individual that went “boom” is a human being that had people who loved them and will grieve them. The human cost of war is horrifying if you are engaging with it on an emotional level. Nonetheless, geopoltiics and power requires that individuals will be hurt by it.

    Notwithstanding any of the above, Putin, like G.W. Bush and all recent presidents is a mass murderer. Doesn’t mean that there are not differences between Putin and others, but both Putin and all recent US presidents make innocent civilians go “boom” – some with more precautions, some with less.

  172. crushednjmillenial says:

    Voices in the MSM calling for no fly zones. Anyone supporting the “tripwire” of locating NATO troops in Ukraine ahead of the Russian invasion. America’s #1 scum bag Hilary Clinton jumps on cable news to try to dunk on Trump and advocate for cyberattacks on Russia.

    Below is a quora article about the blast radius of the largest atomic weapon ever tested on earth, placed over a map of the NYC area.

    https://www.quora.com/How-much-damage-the-strongest-nuclear-bomb-can-cause

    The answer to Russian aggression is:
    (1) tough economic sanctions;
    (2) credibility that NATO is an ironclad, to-the-death-of-humanity-for-real-we-really-mean-it PROMISE. Easier for NATO to have that credibility if it was a bit westward of where it is;
    (3) accepting the fact that for non-NATO nations, Russia can do a lot militarily that we cannot and will not confront militarily;
    (4) Context that the US has tutelage over something like 4 or 5 billion humans – Russians have same over 250 million or so; Chinese over 1.5 – 2. We don’t sacrifice billions of people for the civilians in Ukraine.

  173. crushednjmillenial says:

    ^in my point 3 in that last post, I meant to say “non-Nato, former USSR nations, Russia can do a lot militarily that we cannot and will not confront militarily.”

    One last point –

    I voted for Trump twice. I can’t wait to vote for him again in 2024. Nonetheless, I give Biden 5 stars out of 5 for both:

    (1) getting us out of Afghanistan;
    (2) handling the Ukraine issue and ignoring the war hawks that are shrugging off the prospect of MAD.

  174. Hold my beer says:

    Chicago

    She had the rare ability to be condescending and moronic at the same time.

  175. Juice Box says:

    You have to remember it was Obama who declined to provide lethal aid, overruling his national security team, and Congress for not funding it. The republicans’ sent some weapons when Trump was Pres there and Biden had to ante up in this year due to troops on the border. But at the end if the day it’s the Europeans who are the reason for this mess.

    The Ukrainians needed billions not millions in air defense aid. Without air superiority the still have a low chance of any success, nobody wanted to help them. I wish there could be a way to buy off Russia, but again the old man over there has now his sights on historical legacy now.

    Lets hope the big stuff does not take out modern civilization, because we have never been much closer than well Cuba.

  176. Capt_Cuck says:

    In strictly the most clinical sense possible:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apV_lymPeAU

  177. grim says:

    Called this last week, just saying…

    Biden to announce ban on Russian aircraft from US airspace at State of the Union

  178. grim says:

    End-game is in the hands of the Russian people now. That’s it in my eyes, that’s the only option.

  179. 3b says:

    What’s the point of invading Modova?

  180. Nomad says:

    Ukrainian American Cultural Center is collecting goods this Fri & Sat. Theyare pretty specific as to what they need and want things packed in a box and labeled. Everthing likelygetting palletized & wrapped for easy loading on cargo jet. They are also accepting donations to help w shipping costs. Did not even know this organization existed. Beautiful facility in Hanover.

    Details below.

    https://www.facebook.com/UACCNJ/

    PS – a lot of stuff can be ordered at walmart.com and will arrived boxed to your home in a day or two. Double check shipping times as some items will arrive next day and others several days.

  181. Libturd says:

    I just saw a leak of Biden’s SOTU speech.

    Lots of talk about how all the leaves are missing from the tops of the trees and the elephants keep eating the leaves from the lower portion of the trees.

  182. Grim says:

    Moldova was part of the Soviet Union, and as it’s not part of NATO, it’s ripe for harvest.

  183. Juice Box says:

    3B – take a look at there pre WW 1 map, Putin wants to roll back time over a hundred years. If you read his speech last week he blames the soviets for not restoring the empire.
    His henchman Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov even wants to to be called “his excellence” as if this clown is some kind of prince. Judging by Putin’s palaces and other extravagances they really think they are some kind of nobility who will be in power until they die. Moldavia, Poland etc, it going to be a bloody mess as these old men live out their fantasies.

    https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/photo/map-russian-empire-1914

  184. Capt_Cuck says:

    Ukraine anchors Biden’s speech. Stars of the night.
    Putin as Dictator will play nicely.

  185. Ex says:

    Putin’s pal Belarus’ Lukashenko may have accidentally revealed a map of Russia’s Ukrainian invasion plans. Cannot make this up.
    Biden’s hammers Russian Oligarchs.
    He’s on fire. Verrrry lucid. Concise and in command.

  186. Libturd says:

    If you put the closed captioning on, you can understand what Biden is saying.

  187. 3b says:

    Grim: I understand that, but does not fit with Russia s Slavic brothers rationale. Moldova is Romanian except for the small break
    away area of Trans Nistria which is Russians and Ukrainians. I don’t see the Russians being able to hold Ukraine and Moldova if he goes in there too. Russian economy is being destroyed.

  188. Grim says:

    Well done intro.

  189. Grim says:

    The transnistra region is highlighted on the Belarus map of world domination.

  190. Ex says:

    Why do Biden’s stories remind me of a monologue from Tommy Boy…??

  191. Ex says:

    He did that whispery thing about China.

  192. Grim says:

    Done watching, I can’t stand the clapping, makes me think it’s just a big circle jerk

  193. Ex says:

    Look for the Union Label!

  194. Ex says:

    Oh no!!! He’s going after drug Co.s

    The horror!!!!

  195. Bystander says:

    Make stuff in America..what a great original idea.

  196. BRT says:

    I know, they’ve been “going after” drug companies for decades.

    Wait, he came up with a solution for high prices, cap them! I’ve seen this one before.

  197. Fast Eddie says:

    Best part of the speech so far, AOC looks hot! lol!

  198. 3b says:

    Biden Talking about making it in America and companies getting away with not paying taxes. Guys been in DC for 50 years can’t take him
    seriously. Can’t take any of them seriously.

  199. Boomer Remover says:

    Childcare at $14K annually? No, I am at $19,200 for 9-3PM.

    Grim, the state of the union IS the illest circle jerk around.

  200. Fast Eddie says:

    Hey Joe, where’s my covid test kits? And my Obammy phone?

  201. BRT says:

    lol, he just claimed the vaccine can reduce the spread of Covid. I guess he doesn’t remember December and January

  202. joyce says:

    Gary,
    Did you even order any test kits?

    Nearly half of Biden’s 500M free COVID-19 tests unclaimed
    https://www.foxnews.com/health/nearly-half-biden-500-million-free-covid-tests-unclaimed

  203. No One says:

    Grim, more like two half-circle jerks.
    To be fair, SOTU speeches are about speechwriters, with presidents reading the script. Remember how Trump seemed kind of coherent at his first SOTU? It wasn’t really him.
    Did I hear Joe misread “Ukranians” as “Iranians”?

  204. Juice Box says:

    The Kyiv Independent@KyivIndependent · 1h⚡️Media: Putin wants to reinstate Yanukovych as president of Ukraine.

    Viktor Yanukovych is allegedly in Minsk, and the Kremlin is preparing an operation to replace Zelensky with the ex-president ousted by the EuroMaidan Revolution in 2014, according to Ukrainska Pravda’s sources

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