Moody’s not optimistic about housing

From MSN:

14 Markets Where Home Prices Could Plummet by 30%

The outlook for the nation’s housing market keeps deteriorating.

Earlier this year, Mark Zandi, Moody’s Analytics chief economist, told Fortune that several of the most overheated housing markets in the U.S. could see price declines of up to 5% within 12 months.

Moody’s subsequently revised its forecast downward, expecting many markets to see dips of between 5% and 10% within a year.

Now, Moody’s has revised its forecast yet again and shared it with Fortune. In all, 210 of around 400 of the largest regional U.S. housing markets were overvalued by more than 25% during the second quarter of 2022, Moody’s says.

Zandi tells Fortune that these markets can expect to see price declines of 15% to 30%, depending on the economy. According to Fortune:

“In ‘significantly overvalued’ housing markets, Moody’s Analytics now forecasts that home prices will fall between 15% to 20%. If a recession hits, Moody’s Analytics expects that U.S. home price decline to widen to between 25% to 30% in ‘significantly overvalued’ housing markets.”

By comparison, U.S. home prices declined 27% between 2006 and 2012.

In other words, what once looked like a minor housing price correction might end up rivaling the decline that triggered the Great Recession.

A handful of markets are overvalued by more than 60%, putting them at even greater risk of a correction. Following are the markets that are most overvalued and therefore most at risk for a big price decline, according to Moody’s.

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92 Responses to Moody’s not optimistic about housing

  1. dentss dunnigan says:

    first

  2. Fast Eddie says:

    By comparison, U.S. home prices declined 27% between 2006 and 2012.

    What was the decline in the NY/NJ/CT area from that same period? Anyone have the stats?

  3. Juice Box says:

    What words of wisdom did Mom give to her kids for Trick or Treating?

    Remember kids, I like Snickers, M and M’s and Peanut Butter Cups.

  4. Ex says:

    Oblami out there talk in’ smack bout the GOP…
    What their plan to reduce inflation???

  5. Ex says:

    Sez most Repug’s are closeted f-ggots???
    Can u believe that!?!?? Lindsay??? Ladybugs?

  6. crushednjmillenial says:

    8 days to the midterms . . .

    In 8 days, we find out how sharp the backlash is against the Dems for being in power and being the party for:

    -criminals
    -subway pushers, shoplifters, and arrestees with 50+ charges walking free
    -defund the police
    -pro-inflation
    -high gas prices (because, they are anti-energy drilling)
    -out-of-control open border

    -covid shutdowns and pro-Fauci
    -pushing the narrative that Covid is super-dangerous for people other than (a) the old; (b) those with certain illnesses; (c) some random, but statistically-insignificant otherwise healthy people
    -firing emergency workers for refusing the covid vaccines

    -riots to burn down and loot small businesses in downtowns near you
    -covid is bad and all must be shut down, EXCEPT when people want to protest for George Floyd and BLM
    -burning and rioting is ok, EXCEPT for when the D’s will be exaggerating how dramatic and traumatic it was for a few thousand people to march into the Capitol wherein they barely damaged property
    -pushing a twisted narrative that the US’s biggest problem is race, and we must fixate on that topic and any disparity must be race rather than socio-economic
    -playing the victim and elevating victimhood rather than triumph over adversity

    -militantly, pro-abortion (rather than Bill Clinton’s “safe, legal, and rare”)
    -huge sums of money for Ukraine without Ukranian government accountability
    -10% for the big guy
    -raising a leader that is 80 years old and not cognitively-equipped to be President

    -pro-trans and pro-weird, fringe sexuality groups, and pro-seeing racism at the drop of a hat, but
    -silent re workers’ rights
    -silent re consumers’ rights
    -silent re federally-funded universal pre-k or federally-funded maternal leave for mothers of newborns

    DEBACLE re children and education:
    -school personnel can advise your child toward becoming a trans person without parental notification
    -improper LGBT content for children (books with obscene LGBT content and/or programs with drag queens reading stories to kids)
    -too-early sex ed for children
    -woke content being served up by teachers

    -WORST OF ALL, parents expressing frustration about any of the above or other ways that the left messes with their children, being LABELED by the DOJ as “domestic t–ists”

    Anyway, I hope everyone is voting in 8 days.

  7. Ex says:

    Trump was alleging a national plot to steal the election, and now Detroit—and Chris Thomas—were right in the middle of it.

    The GOP assault on the legitimacy of Biden’s victory has led to death threats against election workers and a lethal siege of the United States Capitol. But perhaps the gravest consequence is the erosion of confidence in our system. Late this summer, a Quinnipiac poll found that 69 percent of both Republicans and Democrats believe that American democracy “is in danger of collapse.” They hold this view for somewhat different reasons. Republicans believe that Democrats already rigged an election against them and will do so again if given the chance; Democrats believe that Republicans, convinced that 2020 was stolen despite all evidence to the contrary, are now readying to rig future elections. It’s hard to see how this ends well. By the presidential election of 2024, a constitutional crisis might be unavoidable.

  8. crushednjmillenial says:

    Inflation was driven by the D’s . . .

    In 2021, when the Fed was seeing CPI and other inflation indicators start to rise sharply, the Fed should have raised rates. However, the Fed balked at doing so for political reasons. MSNBC and mainstream D’s were still howling about covid.

  9. Libturd says:

    In 8 days, we’ll see if the voters are cool with more of this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfP_5L8epow

    or this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVFFB9mAoW0

  10. Juice Box says:

    Think Zuck when nuts with tech spending of $10 Billion a year on META? JPM is now spending $12 billion a year on technology. JPM wants to be the middleman between landlords and renters with it’s new App “Story”.

    There is $500 Billion a year in rent paid each year and 78% by old fashioned check.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/31/jpmorgan-chase-unveils-payments-platform-for-landlords-and-tenants.html

  11. BananaJoe3rdWorldPres says:

    Has anything in history every been more cynical and outlandish than blaming the activities of chemically unbalanced pr0stitutes on maga? When you thought the propagandists couldn’t fund a new low, here we are, look no further than exhibit A.

  12. Ex says:

    You are hypocritical liars. Nothing is lower. Look it up.

  13. Ex says:

    Bearing false witness. Burn in hell.

  14. Ex says:

    ON JESUS

    Jesus is not a Republican. This has been said before. But now it must be said more loudly and more clearly than ever. There are good and godly men and women who vote Republican and serve in elected office as Republicans. But the association of the name of Christ with the Republican party of Trump has become a scourge of shame for the church. The time has come––indeed, it is long overdue––for the entire church to denounce this association in the strongest possible terms.

    Jesus was not a violent revolutionary. It is not uncommon for Christians, particularly progressive Christians, to describe Jesus as a revolutionary. Of course, in a sense, this is absolutely true. During Jesus’ first life on earth, he challenged many social norms having to do with Torah observance, women’s roles in society, and association with the marginalized. However, Jesus was not a violent revolutionary. The “zealots” of Jesus’ day were revolutionaries who aspired to violent rebellion against Rome in God’s name. Jews had successfully (though temporarily) thrown off the rule of their imperial overlords in the Maccabean Revolt less than two centuries earlier. The Jews would rebel again in the century following Jesus’ death and resurrection, this time unsuccessfully and with devastating results for the nation.

    But Jesus was not a zealot. When asked whether God’s people should pay taxes to the empire, Jesus answered “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s. Give to God what is God’s.” (Mark 12:17) When Jesus was arrested, Peter rose violently to his Rabbi’s defense. Jesus rebuked him, saying “Put your sword back in its place, for all who choose the sword will be destroyed by the sword. Don’t you realize I can call on my Father, and he will at once put more than twelve legions of angels at my disposal?” (Matt 26:52–53, my translation) He later tells the Jewish authorities, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would be fighting to prevent my arrest.” (John 18:36, my translation)

    What this means for Christians today is that the way of violence is not the way of Christ. Much has been said in recent days about the hypocrisy of “the left” or “the media” denouncing the violence in the Capitol while endorsing the violence of the BLM movement last year. Frankly, I don’t care that much whether “the left” or “the right” are hypocrites. What I do care about is that the violence at the Capitol was perpetrated in Jesus’ name. Look no further than the Christian symbols that permeated the rioters’ ranks, including a massive yellow sign reading “Jesus Saves” on the steps of the Capitol, crosses in the crowd, or t-shirts reading “Jesus is my Savior and Trump is my President.” As far as I can tell no glaring effort was made by BLM demonstrators to associate their movement with Jesus or the mission of God in America. That, without question, makes the violence of the movement at the Capitol the more grievous sin, akin to the wicked acts of the professing Christians who perpetrated the Crusades in the Holy Land. Jesus’ Kingdom comes, not through violence, but through love.

  15. Libturd says:

    Juice,

    Chase can hardly setup a landlord-tenant escrow account correctly. I would seriously wait like a year before trying their program. Heck, my business account attached to my LLC wouldn’t even let me deposit checks online if they totaled more than $5,000 in like a month. Don’t forget their current interest rate is 0.01%. If you keep $100,000 in the account, they’ll pay your ATM fees and raise your interest to 0.02%.

  16. Libturd says:

    For comparison, I have six different bank accounts earning 8.00% yield or more. That’s 800 times what Chase is paying. Yet Chase provides services to nearly half the households in America.

  17. BRT says:

    The mortgage broker from chase offered me 2.9% on my 15 year when they were offering 2.7% on the 30 year. I gave him an earful on his lack of ethics. Then I refi’ed with my previous mortgage broker who worked at Chase in 2011 but moved off on his own.

  18. Juice Box says:

    Lib – Not plugging them just was shocked to see they spend 12 Billion on technology.. They are the largest lender…balance sheet is nearly 3.7 Trillion and growing by hundreds of billions every quarter. The average consumer has not seen interest on an account in over a decade, they will learn to switch as rates continue to rise and the smaller banks advertise.

  19. Libturd says:

    Chase is the absolute worst mortgage originator. The only time I would even consider using Chase for a mortgage is when they offer their no-cost refinance offers to current Chase mortgage holders. But of course, shop their rate.

  20. SmallGovConservative says:

    Libturd says:
    October 31, 2022 at 9:04 am
    “I have six different bank accounts earning 8.00% yield or more.”

    Please drop a couple of names here. Thanks in advance.

  21. Jim says:

    I voted Saturday, polls in NJ are open daily and from what I understand it is this way allover NJ. I would not wait until the 8th and wait in line to vote.
    If you are upset with inflation and crime do your civil duty, in my town it was Malinowski versus Kean.

  22. Libturd says:

    They are promotional offers.

    Subscribe to mymoneyblog.com

    They list these promos nearly once per week. Latest one has a limit of 10K for the 7% for the first 3 months with their opening bonus. Though, it pays 3% interest afterwards, which is the most I’ve seen. Capital One online checking.

    I don’t want to list them for security reasons.

    Dude who runs that blog has funded his families IRAs in complete every year for the last ten with bank, brokerage and credit card bonuses. That’s $160,000 of free money.

  23. Fast Eddie says:

    I was traveling in the car Saturday and was listening to Oblammy on XM at some rally thing… wherever the f.uck he was. He sounded like a guy trying to keep a restless audience distracted until the real comedian showed up at the event. He was inventing stories with some pauses and trying to drum up enthusiasm and trying to think of jokes, etc. It was a total waste of time and reminded me that he, like most of the democrats, accomplish nothing that benefits us as a nation other than taxing the middle class. He’d occasionally throw in the “tax breaks for the rich” and “cuts to grandma’s soc1al security” when he could think of nothing else to say. The democrats are going to get an epic beat down for the disasters they have caused and they deserve every bit of it.

  24. Juice Box says:

    Ex: God destroyed two cities and left behind a dead sea because he could not find 10 people living there who were faithful. Jesus also said that end-time events would parallel those in the days before the destruction of those two cities.

    There is conclusive evidence in the BIBLE….once you read it you believe, it’s really that simple for many people..

    EVERY Natural disaster, EVERY political upheaval, and EVERY War is a sure sign that the sure sign the The End Is Nigh…. and it’s been that way for 2,000 years……

    So expect it could happen any day now….

  25. Fast Eddie says:

    Democrat’s campaign strategy:

    – Trump
    – Pronouns
    – Murder your baby

    Vote for us.

  26. grim says:

    JPM is now spending $12 billion a year on technology. JPM wants to be the middleman between landlords and renters with it’s new App “Story”.

    Everyone wants to be the toll taker, it’s the ultimate business model.

    From pharmaceuticals, to rent, to communications, to information, to payments, to app stores, etc etc etc.

    What better business model. You don’t need to do, or make, anything of value. You just need to find a way to insert yourself in the middle of a transaction and profit.

  27. 3b says:

    Going to be interesting to see what 10 percent mortgage rates do to housing if rates get that high, and they could.

    As for the election, I think the Dems are going to get battered in the election, people are going to choose the lesser of what they believe are two evils, and go with the Republicans. Democrats don’t have anything to offer the average American, and the refusal to acknowledge inflation, and then acknowledge and tell people to deal with it, is not a positive message. All the woke messages too by the Democrats is exhausting, and it seems everyday there is a new oppressed group, sub group that is being crushed by the hierarchy and male white privilege, blah, blah. It’s tiresome to have to listen to this. As someone said a few weeks ago, people are looking for solutions to serious problems, not a revolution. The Democrats including old Joe should have distanced themselves from the progressives a few years ago.

  28. Ex says:

    If you liked the insurrection and tax cuts for big corporations (while yours expired ) then vote for the election deniers. They’ll tell you who won! What the gubmint thinks you can do with you body …,and coming soon….who can be A rEaL aMerIcan

  29. Libturd says:

    Eddie,

    I know you are going to keep on ranting. But the truth is.

    If the Dems lose, it will be all about the economy. Something the president has little to no control over.

    If the Dems somehow win, it will be all about Roe V. Wade. Something the president does have some control other (based on his appointed court cronies).

    Though they both claim differently, Biden’s deficit building spending is pretty close to Trump’s, which is sad, considering that Trump presided over “the Greatest Economy Ever.”

    None the less, it’s almost always, all about the economy.

  30. grim says:

    The big ARM mortgage pivot is on – fixed rate is for losers. Why bother locking in an exorbitantly high mortgage rate right now? You are saving a whole 1 5/8ths point by going ARM, and you won’t need to refi if the economy goes into the shitter and rates fall in the future.

  31. Fast Eddie says:

    The big ARM mortgage pivot is on…

    Are NINJA loans back, too?

  32. grim says:

    This comes from a mortgage buddy of mine in another state. He’s saying they are pushing ARM really really hard right now, nearly everyone is pivoting. Buyers are jumping on board with it. Keep in mind, no reset until next year, so even though the Fed ain’t done, it’s not going to reflect in that ARM anytime soon (so he says). Also, given the wide gap in rates, the adj. rate isn’t likely to hit the same rate as the 30y fixed (so he says).

  33. Fast Eddie says:

    so he says…

    Spoken like a true salesman. Somewhat like precious metal dealers hawking their product as an investment.

  34. Juice Box says:

    What people fail to realize is that abortion would not be an issue if they actually passed the Federal legislation in February, because the Supreme Court ruling was in June…. House voted to pass and the Senate refused.

    Passed the House in Sept 2021 and failed in the Senate in Feb 2022.

    HR 3755 – Women’s Health Protection Act of 2021

    Yea-Nay Vote. 46 – 48 with six non-voting, including Warnock for cloture. They needed only a few votes and Chuck Schumer could not get them. Warnock is choosing power and getting re-elected over women’s rights. His gamble for power may not work if he loses and that is still a possibility, huge amount of TV Ads and other media buys for Georgia right now..

  35. BananaJoe3rdWorldPres says:

    When your sales drop by +80% you better come up with a new pitch. Lean times in the lending business.

  36. Juice Box says:

    Just to clarify, they need 60 votes for cloture, but they could have nuked the fillibuster and PASSED IT but chose not to..This legislation has been floating around for nearly 10 years now.

    The democrat strategists saw this as a positive for the mid-terms… the best outcome that Democrats could have hoped for right now, as Abortion actually helps them campaign against Republicans as a powerful contrast. Will it work? They are spending Billion on Abortion TV commercials now…

  37. grim says:

    This legislation has been floating around for nearly 10 years now.

    I thought this criticism of RvW went much further back than 10 years – that the legal position was only ever a stopgap vs. a legislative (or constitutional) solution.

  38. Juice Box says:

    News from the war. Ukraine is getting closer and closer to air superiority. Russia fired 50 cruise missiles today. All but 6 were apparently shot down. All that NATO gear is paying off as the Russians were targeting power grid facilities all throughout the country. Ukraine was recently given Raytheon developed AIM-120 missiles which are normally air to air missiles fired from aircraft like the F-15, but they have been adapted with no modifications to fire from a mobile land battery with about a 24 mile range. They do not have our fighter jets, but with these ground based systems they may never need them.

  39. Libturd says:

    Yes, that’s true Grim. It was always flimsy. This should have been fixed years ago.
    Then again, these recent court appointments straight-up lied during their confirmations. The Supreme Court, like everything else in America is becoming a second-world joke. When the rest of the world learns this, I truly fear for our bonds. At least we have our huge military to prop us up. Right? Because this strategy is working so well for Russia, which spends even a higher percentage of their GDP on their military than even we do.

    For the record, in Costa Rica, they recently made abortion legal.

    But what do I know. I’m just a janitor counting my days of scrubbing toilets before I can leave.

  40. joyce says:

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/ATNHPIUS34003A
    All-Transactions House Price Index for Bergen County, NJ

  41. Juice Box says:

    What is old is new again. Actually laws go back to the 17th Century Europe, where it became a capital crime to abort after the mother could feel movement, but the debate has gone on for far far longer than that, and won’t end anytime soon and even if passed into federal law will be challenged and come back again perhaps during the next generation.

  42. crushednjmillenial says:
  43. 3b says:

    Lib: I agree it’s the economy first, but I do think it’s more than the economy. The Dems just have a bad negative message all around.

  44. crushednjmillenial says:

    Wow, Justice Thomas actually engaging in extended questioning. He didn’t hardly make a comment on the bench for like 20 years. He asked a question or two recently, but he just hit the colleges’ counsel with a handful of back-and-forth questions.

  45. crushednjmillenial says:

    Amy Comey Barrett – citing Grutter:

    Grutter says government use of race is so dangerous and problematic, that it must have logical basis, durational limits and a sunset provision.

    When is the end point?

    WOW, its spicy in scotus today.

  46. Juice Box says:

    Re: Spicy…. spicy for sure.

    “Interesting hypo from Kagan: data suggest that straight numerical criteria would result in classes of 65% women 35% men. Would it be ok for a university to say that’s bad for campus life and for society and put thumb on scale for male applicants?”

  47. Libturd says:

    It’s sad really.

    It’s kind of like the gun laws in a way. It’s obvious that tougher gun laws will have no effect whatsoever on gun-related crime, though it might help stop some of the accidental deaths that occur and perhaps the school shootings. But the gangbangers don’t follow laws, so why bother. With guns, it’s really all or nothing or you are pretty much wasting your time.

    With abortion. You can make it illegal, like it is still in many religious countries around the world today. But you won’t stop it from occurring through law. As a matter of a fact, you’ll barely put a dent in it. As long as there are undesired pregnancies, there will continue to be abortions. The only affect you will have from making it illegal will be to damage the health of the women who will continue to have them. It will probably cause more mental health issues too in the states where they are supposedly not being performed.

    Need a fake ID? I can get you one of them too.

  48. Libturd says:

    3B,

    “The Dems just have a bad negative message all around.”

    To a centrist or right winger, I’m sure it’s perceived that way. To a leftwinger or centrist, the MAGA movement spells the end of many human rights and a return to what Gary calls exceptionalism, but what the left knows was a period of white male privilege. We’ve come so far in believing that we were all created equal. Why are we so hellbent on changing it back to how the Church wants it?

  49. Bystander says:

    Everything thing is fine. Guy up the street dropped 50K so instead of asking for 40% increase in one year, he expects 30%. The world is lost in price discovery – that is food, housing, stocks, wages. Shoot for moon and see if it sticks. If not, drop a little until find a sucker.

    Also Ed..f-in ouch. I have 200 bootleg CD in my attics. Mostly Dead, Allman, Phish but some rare Hendrix and SRV too

    “all boot leg albums from concerts… Zep, The Who, etc. Dad tosses the box in the garbage without asking what was in it. I find out a week later. End of story.”

  50. 3b says:

    Lib: I think the Left bears a large part of the blame for that. I believe we were making great progress towards equality and Dr. Kings dream. The dramatic increase in diversity from when we were growing up to now. A combination of laws and peoples views changing bought us to that stage. You can legislate all you want, but it’s society s views changing that really makes a difference.

    The Left, or radical left came along and said the country/ system is rotten head to toe, there is oppression and discrimination across the board, racism is endemic, and only white people can be racist, women are oppressed, the LGBT etc community is oppressed, and on and on. Even Bill Maher, the classic Liberal in my view has said it’s out of control. And so, I believe that led to a backlash from the right. We as a country are in a bad place, I don’t know what the solution is, maybe there isn’t one. My hope is the young people of good will from both sides can come together and find solutions/ compromise. It’s way past time to end the rule of the gerentocracy.

  51. Libturd says:

    3B,

    Good discussion.

    I agree things might have come to far too fast as of late. I think the BLM movement and their revelation of systemic abuse against black men caused police enforcement to become a wedge issue. I think this contributes to the increase in crime in blue cities too. Heck, why would I put my neck on the line for you if you think I’m a racist or profile? I think it sprung out of control from there. Then, all of the other causes hopped on the bandwagon and the woke train started to runaway as it was toxic to say anything as you would or could be misconstrued for being racist.

    As you know, I say it as I sees it. Which is why I believe the left hurts the blacks more than they help him with all of the giveaways which results in and endless cycle of government dependence. When I see this among my liberal friends, they say I am racist for making such proclamations. I have thick skin. At the end of the day, I know they are mislead. Just like the church misleads so many.

    This creation of wedge issues may be doing more mental damage to Americans than the pandemic is.

  52. Ex says:

    “….i lOvE tHe pOOrly eDuCaTeD….”

  53. Chicago says:

    You are racist.

    Libturd says:
    October 31, 2022 at 12:17 pm
    3B,

    Good discussion.

    I agree things might have come to far too fast as of late. I think the BLM movement and their revelation of systemic abuse against black men caused police enforcement to become a wedge issue. I think this contributes to the increase in crime in blue cities too. Heck, why would I put my neck on the line for you if you think I’m a racist or profile? I think it sprung out of control from there. Then, all of the other causes hopped on the bandwagon and the woke train started to runaway as it was toxic to say anything as you would or could be misconstrued for being racist.

    As you know, I say it as I sees it. Which is why I believe the left hurts the blacks more than they help him with all of the giveaways which results in and endless cycle of government dependence. When I see this among my liberal friends, they say I am racist for making such proclamations. I have thick skin. At the end of the day, I know they are mislead. Just like the church misleads so many.

    This creation of wedge issues may be doing more mental damage to Americans than the pandemic is.

  54. Ex says:

    This astonishing jump in falsehoods is the story of Trump’s tumultuous reign. By the end of his term, Trump had accumulated 30,573 untruths during his presidency — averaging about 21 erroneous claims a day.
    What is especially striking is how the tsunami of untruths kept rising the longer he served as president and became increasingly unmoored from the truth.

    Click: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

  55. BananaJoe3rdWorldPres says:

    Wapo fact checkers. lol.

  56. BananaJoe3rdWorldPres says:

    It’sa political narrative. Give us all the power and we’ll make everything fair. Of course we’ve already seen enough to know that that means. Substituting quotas for merit, the ushering of the idiotocracy, and codified discrimination. One of the silver linings of this debacle administration has been a broader understanding of that.

  57. BRT says:

    CDC director tests positive again. Bivalent booster + paxlovid.

  58. Juice Box says:

    re: “I agree things might have come to far too fast as of late”

    Yes Clown World…….like the CDC scrubbing women from their flu shot guidance?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11373395/Fury-CDC-quietly-removes-word-women-flu-vaccine-advice-pregnant-people.html

  59. Ex says:

    1:08 hahahahahahaha

  60. Ex says:

    Feeling gooooood America!

  61. 3b says:

    Lib: Agreed. Too bad Americans in general including our politicians can’t have the same reasonable give and take discussions.

  62. 3b says:

    Juice: This whole let’s eliminate women nonsense is going to backfire on the woke progressive crowd. It’s ironic when you think of all the years women had to battle for equal rights, and to be recognized, in a world dominated by men, and yet now they are being airbrushed out because of some men who identify as women. Ironic indeed.

  63. SmallGovConservative says:

    BananaJoe3rdWorldPres says:
    October 31, 2022 at 1:08 pm
    “One of the silver linings of this debacle administration…”

    Looks like more debacles to come this week, as Joe looks to energize the Dem constituency of deadbeats and whiners by calling for a windfall tax on the big bad oil companies — who are cleaning up precisely because of Joe and the Dems disastrous energy policies — and extending his abusive use of govt institutions to target political opponents, by threatening to launch a phony ‘security’ review of Musk’s Twitter takeover.

  64. Fast Eddie says:

    Eight days until the death of liberal, woke, sugar-flake poltroons, skulkers and cravens.

  65. Ex says:

    2:25 price gouging = cleaning up in your world huh!?
    Ladybug

  66. Ex says:

    2:32 nO mOrE cAt LiTtEr bOxeS fOr tHe cHiLDrEn.

  67. Ex says:

    cAn’T wAiT uNTil tRuMp iS fInallY rEsToReD
    aS uS pReSiDenT ….!!!! WITh nEwlY sinGLe
    MaRjOrIe “ape face” gReEn wOrKinG side By sIde
    wItH TRUmP tO dEsTrOy aMeRiCa !!

  68. Ex says:

    2:24?but having a serial rapist in office as POTUS is just fine with women.

  69. joyce says:

    grim, libturd, and anyone else that travels a lot.

    Have you noticed any changes to the food and drink prices at Newark Airport from a while back when they got in ‘trouble’? I have a trip coming up in early Dec so I was curious.

  70. Juice Box says:

    Ex- Short memory? Bill Clinton?

  71. Ex says:

    3:38 serial philanderer versus actual rapist

  72. 3b says:

    Joyce: My brother traveled to Europe in mid October; 32.00 dollars for a glass of red wine. It was a nice pour, but still a rip off.

  73. Libturd says:

    Sorry Joyce. I have flown quite a bit lately and the only thing I’ve purchased at the airport was from the Farmer’s Fridge which is a little pricey, but really quite good and extremely healthy.

    I’m still blown away that the restrooms in Newark still resemble and smell like public toilets in India, while the food choices resemble a world market in Paris.

  74. Libturd says:

    Farmer’s Fridge (a vending machine refilled three times daily), is only available in terminals A & B. In United terminal C, it’s a cornucopia of thousands of iPad kiosks where you can order mediocre food of every type and variety at prices that resemble what you would pay to have the same food imported and served to you in Fiji.

    Though, I think they sell $2 bottles of water at the vending stands as a compromise.

  75. Fast Eddie says:

    ..but having a serial rapist in office as POTUS is just fine with women.

    Tara Reade? Juanita Broaddrick? Leslie Millwee? Paula Jones? Kathleen Willey?

  76. Ex says:

    No one cried rape, Skippy.

    Trump has a shit ton of pending RAPE cases.

  77. Ex says:

    At least 18 women have accused Donald Trump of varying inappropriate behavior, including allegations of sexual harassment or sexual assault. All but two came forward with their accusations before or during his first bid for the White House.

    The latest accusation comes from Amy Dorris, a former model who told The Guardian this week that Trump forcibly kissed and groped her at the U.S. Open tennis tournament in 1997, prompting a new denial from the Trump campaign with weeks to go until the 2020 election.

  78. Ex says:

    Truth:

    https://youtu.be/igrENGM1NTI

    But you are getting played

  79. Fast Eddie says:

    Republican Pennsylvania Senate nominee Dr. Mehmet Oz has received the endorsement from one of the state’s largest newspapers with little more than a week left in his heated race against Democratic Lt. Gov. John Fetterman.

    The editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette issued its endorsement on Sunday, telling readers Oz was the candidate “better prepared to lead,” and citing concerns over Fetterman’s lack of transparency regarding his health and lack of real-world experience as reasons for the endorsement.

    “We believe Mr. Oz is the better bet for Pennsylvania,” the board wrote, before writing that Fetterman’s health stemming from the stroke he suffered earlier this year was not an issue for them.

    “His lack of transparency, however, in refusing to release his medical records is troubling. It suggests an impulse to conceal and a mistrust of the people. All candidates for a major elected office should release their medical records, as did Mr. Oz. If you want privacy, don’t run for public office,” it added.

    Tick… tick… tick… tick…

  80. Fast Eddie says:

    “The diesel shortage in the U.S. is serious and intensifying, with the Energy Information Administration reporting last week that distillate supplies are at dwindling levels we haven’t seen since 2008. Diesel prices have also swelled over $5 a gallon nationwide, overtaking gas earlier this year. But the diesel shortage is more serious this time around, Forbes reports, because distillate levels are low going into fall, when farmers are harvesting and buying more fuel for the winter.”

    Any questions?

  81. Ex says:

    Yeah did you go to college?

  82. chicagofinance says:

    For a frame of reference:
    UNITED STATES TREASURY BONDS
    1.875%
    11/15/51

    Issued almost one year ago on 11/15/2021.
    If you invested $100,000 back then you would have a security with current bids in the $61,000 area……. ouch

  83. chicagofinance says:

    BTW: we went years on these threads where the Fed meetings were unimportant. Now, this particular one is critical. The comments around it. The language. Depending what is in there will suggest whether the market blasts off or craters……

    We are priced for 75,
    Dec 14 50
    Feb 1 25 ….. then stop?

  84. 3b says:

    EU inflation hits another record high. We

  85. Ex says:

    “…..I love the truly stupid….”
    — Donald “dimwit” Trump

  86. Fast Eddie says:

    How do you keep a liberal in suspense?

  87. Ex says:

    If Weisselberg tells the truth during the trial—i.e. he tells the jury about how, as CFO of the company, he engaged in a scheme to compensate himself and other executives with off-the-books perks for which taxes were not paid, and personally dodged taxes on $1.76 million of income over the last 15 years—he’ll be given a five-month prison sentence, of which he would probably only serve 100 days, according to the reported details of the plea deal. He’d also have to fork over nearly $2 million in taxes, penalties, and interest. Among the perks Weisselberg received as part of the scam were an apartment on the Upper West Side, leased Mercedes-Benzes, and private school tuition for his grandchildren. When the indictment against Weisselberg and the Trump Organization was unsealed last year, it showed the company kept actual spreadsheets of its alleged crimes. Responding to the news at the time, company executives Don Jr. and Eric Trump argued that people dodge taxes all the time and it’s not a big deal; they also claimed that the $1.76 million that Weisselberg avoided paying the IRS was “pennies on the dollar.”

  88. Juice Box says:

    Ex – If Hunter tells the truth during the trial—i.e. he tells the jury about how, as the head of his of shell companies, he engaged in a scheme to compensate himself and other family members like his Uncle and Father with off-the-books perks like Diamonds and 100,000 credit lines on cards for which taxes were not filed or paid anywhere near on time, and personally dodged taxes on $10 million of income over the last 15 years.

    Sound about right? We shall see….

  89. Ex says:

    Sure, prosecute whoever needs it.
    Starting w/ Twummmmp

  90. Jim says:

    Ex, How stoned are you??? Trump is no longer president and will probably never run again. The bigger crook IS Joe Biden…you know the big guy. You have to get out of your stoned stupor because you are looking and sounding like a complete ass. Quit the pot your no longer a kid, or maybe you are. Stoners can be so stupid, you are letting Trump live in your soft brain rent freeand it is looking like he is getting to you.
    15 posts today on Trump today, get a life!

  91. Ex says:

    “Getting to me.” Geeeezus you twits are insufferable.

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