NJ Gets Coal for Christmas

From NJBIZ:

NJ unemployment rate ticks up in November jobs report 

Just before the holiday, the New Jersey Department of Labor and Workforce Development released the state’s November jobs report, which showed an increase of 4,100 jobs (3,100 in the private sector), along with the unemployment rate inching up 0.1% to 4.7%.

“Sadly, New Jersey got a lump of coal in the form of the November job report,” said Charles Steindel, former chief economist of the New Jersey Department of the Treasury, in his analysis for thinktank Garden State Initiative (GSI). “The state’s unemployment rate moved up from 4.6% to 4.7% in the face of a 10,700 decline in the labor force. The number of employed state residents fell 15,500.”

“The holiday season is supposed to be the ‘most wonderful time of the year’ but not for New Jersey’s economy, which this report indicates is worsening each month,” said GSI President Regina Egea. “The state’s unemployment rate went up again and is now a full point higher than the national average. Notably, 65,000 more New Jerseyans are without a job today as compared to July.”

Steindel noted that the payroll numbers were “less bad, but hardly robust,” with gains in four out of nine major sectors.

“There was an increase of 4,100 jobs from the revised October level, but the October level is 2,800 less than originally reported. Thus, the increase from the first October estimate was a miniscule 1,300,” Steindel explained.

“Across the industry sectors, construction (-2,400) and information (-900) reported substantial losses, while education and health services (+3,200) and leisure and hospitality (+2,300) had good gains,” he continued. “Perhaps it should be noted that the two sectors with the large losses are relatively high wage, while the two with the large gains have many lower-paying jobs.”

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120 Responses to NJ Gets Coal for Christmas

  1. Hold my beer says:

    First

  2. Hold my beer says:

    NJs unemployment rate goes up, and the pos cape in Summit goes up faster. Why? Do people really want to raise their kids in FDR era homes with theeir layers of lead paint, asbestos coated pipes and shingles, hasnt been updated since Eisenhower was president that badly? Is it the aroma of cabbage, rheingold, and pretentiousness that triggers the desire to become a debt serf?

  3. grim says:

    From the National Employment Labor Project:

    RAISES FROM COAST TO COAST IN 2024

    65 Cities, Counties, and States Will Raise Minimum Wages on January 1st—Most Reaching or Exceeding $15—With 25 Additional Jurisdictions Lifting Pay Later in 2024

    On January 1, 2024, the minimum wage will increase in 22 states and 43 cities and counties. In 47 of those jurisdictions, the wage floor will reach or exceed $15 per hour for some or all employees, including 1 state and 26 localities where the wage floor will reach or exceed $17 per hour for some or all employers.

    Later in 2024, 3 states and 22 local jurisdictions will likewise lift their wage floors—20 of them to $15 or more for some or all employers, including 15 localities which will reach or exceed a $17 minimum wage for some or all employers.

  4. Fast Eddie says:

    Bring back the Poor Law and Treadmill.

  5. Hold my beer says:

    I hate this highway. Most parts it’s 1 lane in each direction with a passing area every few miles. No median. It’s the only way to get to Glen Rose where Dinosaur Valley, a state park you can see dinosaur footprints in the riverbed and also Fossil Rim are. Fossil Rim is probably 5 times the size of the Great Adventure animal safari. The land even looks like the African plains.

    Always worried about some good ole boy in a huge truck thinking he can pass. And that’s what happened to this family.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12905723/texas-car-crash-six-family-members-johnson-county.html#article-12905723

  6. Very Stable Genius says:

    Soft Landing Talk Prompts 1990s Flashbacks – WSJ

    1 hour ago — Soft Landing Talk Prompts 1990s Flashbacks. A soft landing for the U.S. economy in 1995 was followed by a boom.
    Could it happen again?

  7. 3b says:

    Hold: Don’t exaggerate. Many of those houses were updated in the Nixon era, nicely paneled and or painted. And beautiful rustic country kitchens. As a bonus some have finished basements nicely paneled of course, and even bars for entertaining.

  8. Very Stable Genius says:

    “In a recent investor presentation, a team of UBS analysts led by Draho identified several factors that could lead the U.S. economy to a “Roaring ’20s” scenario this decade, with elevated real growth of 2.5% or higher, and controlled inflation of between 2% and 3%. Key are “supply-side” factors like capital investment in factories and infrastructure, and technological advancement, such as in artificial intelligence, that can boost worker productivity. These could increase the economy’s potential to grow without inflation, echoing what happened in the 1990s thanks to computer and internet technology.”

  9. Phoenix says:

    Eddie will get his dream. These will be all torn down and replaced as the land is too valuable for them.

    Hold my beer says:
    December 28, 2023 at 6:51 am
    NJs unemployment rate goes up, and the pos cape in Summit goes up faster. Why? Do people really want to raise their kids in FDR era homes with theeir layers of lead paint, asbestos coated pipes and shingles, hasnt been updated since Eisenhower was president that badly? Is it the aroma of cabbage, rheingold, and pretentiousness that triggers the desire to become a debt serf?

  10. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    With that jobs report, your whole lawn is going to be covered in Chex Mix, or they will be breaking down your door like zombies.

    Hehe.

  11. Phoenix says:

    Used to be one crazy Son of Sam type dude.

    Now it’s roving gangs gonna eff you up. Looks like I will have as much job security as I like.

    Horrifying moment three gunmen ambush car in NYC and shoot dead 28-year-old female passenger after she took her four-year-old son ice skating

  12. Phoenix says:

    Sllllll, sllllll. Yeah, uhhh, I can’t say it. I can’t, I just can’t…..

    Presidential hopeful Nikki Haley has been slammed for refusing to say that slavery was the main cause of the Civil War.

    Haley, the 51-year-old former governor for South Carolina, blundered her way through the question at town hall debate in Berlin, New Hampshire, on Wednesday night.

    The former UN representative jokingly told the audience member ‘well, don’t come with an easy question’, before claiming that the Civil War was fought for freedom and ideological differences in how governments ought to work.

  13. Phoenix says:

    I’m sure some people down there thought it was a couple of illegals driving that truck.

    2014 Silverado isn’t known for it’s passing prowess.

    Hold my beer says:
    December 28, 2023 at 8:51 am
    I hate this highway. Most parts it’s 1 lane in each direction with a passing area every few miles. No median. It’s the only way to get to Glen Rose where Dinosaur Valley, a state park you can see dinosaur footprints in the riverbed and also Fossil Rim are. Fossil Rim is probably 5 times the size of the Great Adventure animal safari. The land even looks like the African plains.

    Always worried about some good ole boy in a huge truck thinking he can pass. And that’s what happened to this family.

  14. Fast Eddie says:

    Eddie,
    With that jobs report, your whole lawn is going to be covered in Chex Mix

    Bulk chicken feed is cheaper and packed with 16% protein. Fish meal and flax seed will keep the youngins’ healthy enough to deliver my Amazon packages.

  15. No One says:

    Alan Kreuger would be so proud of these minimum wage hikes if he hadn’t killed himself already.
    Never has so much bad legislation rested upon such a shoddy “economic research” paper as his. Who needs to understand basic economics when you can just repeatedly vaguely cite Card and Kreuger’s paper that measured a small fraction of companies for a short period of time, and was biased to show the outcome they were looking for.
    Unlike some, I don’t mind speaking ill of dead political hacks.
    https://fee.org/articles/no-the-krueger-card-study-didn-t-prove-that-raising-the-minimum-wage-doesnt-increase-unemployment/

  16. Fast Eddie says:

    Key are “supply-side” factors like capital investment in factories and infrastructure, and technological advancement, such as in artificial intelligence, that can boost worker productivity.

    Slo joe said to put the record player on at night to give kids an advantage.

  17. PumpkinMightBeRight WithRoaring20's says:

    Very Stable,

    UBS could be very right. From the Greenspan years on till the pandemic the economy’s fuel were cheap immigrant labor, cheap chinese everything and overall cheap money.

    Two of them have cancelled out. The replacements will be high tech/low need for humans US factories which by itself will give an edge to our economy. One of the reasons that the US lost manufacturing heavy industries prowess in the 70’s-80’s-90’s was that our factories were all pre WW2 built, while every one else was post war built.

    The one variable is cheap money. Who knows?. Trump again and bullies rates down again? Trump wins and goes 3rd world banana republic and monies flees the USA? Taiwan War? Russian attacks NATO countries? Iran attacks? BRIC+ works or fall aparts? The variabilities are immense.

  18. Phoenix says:

    Hehe.
    Two of them have cancelled out. The replacements will be high tech/low need for humans.

    What do you suggest we do with the “un-needed” humans who no longer have work?

    America? Please answer.

  19. grim says:

    You can infill and redevelop forever, anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

  20. Phoenix says:

    One of the reasons that the US lost manufacturing heavy industries prowess in the 70’s-80’s-90’s was that our factories were all pre WW2 built, while every one else was post war built.

    Hehe.

    You didn’t expect boomer to invest in his factory when he could just outsorce the work and use child labor in China did you?

    Now the old goat doesn’t even wanna get out of bed to show up for work.

  21. No One says:

    Eddie,
    It’s proven that if you play rap records to fetuses and toddlers, they grow up more intelligent and sensitive people.
    “Bitches ain’t sh*t but hoes and tricks / Lick on these nuts and suck the d*ck.” – Snoop Dogg

  22. grim says:

    Judging from how many toys we needed to assemble, apply stickers to, it seems that China is now successfully outsourcing back to us.

  23. Phoenix says:

    Reminds me of Hunter Biden. You get paid well by that guy.

    No One says:
    December 28, 2023 at 10:40 am
    Eddie,
    It’s proven that if you play rap records to fetuses and toddlers, they grow up more intelligent and sensitive people.
    “Bitches ain’t sh*t but hoes and tricks / Lick on these nuts and suck the d*ck.” – Snoop Dogg

  24. Phoenix says:

    Chinese got paid 1.49 to make that toy.

    Your American masters sold it to you for 50 bucks.

    You really didn’t expect your master to pay the extra penny for assembling it do you?

    grim says:
    December 28, 2023 at 10:40 am
    Judging from how many toys we needed to assemble, apply stickers to, it seems that China is now successfully outsourcing back to us.

  25. LAX says:

    10:43 do you have any real friends?

  26. Phoenix says:

    Hehe

    Single by choice.

    Instead of your st oo pid dating app, why don’t you just take a scalpel to the nuts of your date. It appears what you want is not a husband, but a money making eunich anyway.

    Amanda’s dating life before the app included men telling her they ‘don’t date career women’ and they ‘want someone that’s going to be at home’ for them and the kids.

    She said: ‘Sometimes men will say they want someone with equal intelligence, equal career success, equally motivated.

    ‘But then, when it actually comes to building a family together they tend to assumingly put the woman in this more traditional role with raising the kids, with housekeeping, with cooking and cleaning.

    ‘It’s a cultural change that’s happening and some people are slower with it. Other people are faster on it.

    ‘I noticed at business school, for whatever reason it felt like the guys were more progressive in that respect and so the part of me was like, okay, I need to track down these men and and put them in one app so we can all find them’.

    Amanda admits that there are less men than women in the League, and there ‘probably will always be’ because in her experience not every man wants a ‘super equal egalitarian partnership’.

    The CEO millionaire revealed: ‘I have a lot of women in my group of friends, we are single, but it’s single by choice.

  27. Phoenix says:

    I consider you my friend. Hehe

    LAX says:
    December 28, 2023 at 10:49 am
    10:43 do you have any real friends?

  28. SmallGovConservative says:

    PumpkinMightBeRight WithRoaring20’s says:
    December 28, 2023 at 10:24 am
    “Who knows?…Trump wins and goes 3rd world banana republic and monies flees the USA? Russian attacks…”

    Utterly moronic!!! Prematurely attributing disastrous policies and events to the next T admin, while completely ignoring the fact that they’ve already unfolded under SlowJoe. Moronic as noted, but par for the course for stooges like you and Unstable.

  29. LAX says:

    10:53 that would be your mistake as I’m just here for the lolz

  30. Phoenix says:

    Even the Saudi’s are ramping up and moving forward. America is handing out Chex Mix to their children and burying their futures with debt.

    The most eye-catching project is called Neom, a $500 billion futuristic city and business hub powered by solar and thermal energy. An offshoot island, called Sindalah, is being built as a playground for the global elite, including luxury hotels and shopping, high-tech golf, and ample marina space for “superyachts.”

    In the long term, the goal is to challenge Dubai as a luxury tourism destination. Riyadh has set a goal for tourism to account for 10% of GDP by 2030, up from 6% this year. To help hit that target, the government is starting a second airline, aiming to challenge Persian Gulf carriers like Emirates and Etihad.

  31. LAX says:

    11:02

    Loooolz

    oNlY the Diaper Don cAn sAvE uS!!!!!!

    What’s that smell? Where Melania????

    Hahahahaha Hahahahaha Hahahahaha

  32. Phoenix says:

    When Trump gets in the carjacking of BMW’s begin.

  33. Phoenix says:

    Did you mean melena?

    What’s that smell? Where Melania????

  34. Phoenix says:

    Nikki Haley goes into damage control mode and says ‘of COURSE the Civil War was about slavery’

    Well, “it’s a woman’s prerogative to change her mind.”
    Yeah, when her campaign manager tells her she better…

    Hehe

  35. LAX says:

    “….we gave slaves job training though….”

  36. Very Stable Genius says:

    Same as with Holocaust, there are many Slavery deniers.

    It is no accident that Trump quotes Hitler

    Phoenix says:
    December 28, 2023 at 9:49 am
    Sllllll, sllllll. Yeah, uhhh, I can’t say it. I can’t, I just can’t…..

    Presidential hopeful Nikki Haley has been slammed for refusing to say that slavery was the main cause of the Civil War.

  37. No One says:

    NEOM and The LINE is the most bullshit property development project I’ve ever seen.
    King Salman’s Ozymandias moment.
    Must be a cash bonanza for the consultants hired to make the powerpoints and the videos for it. Attracting the top bulshitters and yes-men from around the world.
    Sure, build “a city” in a straight line 170km long in the Saudi desert.
    https://www.neom.com/en-us/regions/theline
    Watching the video above and seeing these people either lying for money, or being that deluded, it’s embarrassing.

  38. Phoenix says:

    Very Stable Genius says:
    December 28, 2023 at 11:25 am
    Same as with Holocaust, there are many Slavery deniers.

    Let’s not forget the climate change deniers.

    And poor Pol Pot. No one ever uses him in a comparison. He must be really feeling left out. No love for second place I guess.

  39. Phoenix says:

    Could be bullshite. But America is so azz backwards now they can’t even build a tunnel from NJ to NYC anymore. You know, like the ones they could build with blood, sweat, and coal powered steam shovels a century ago.

    Or a real high speed train. The Chinese will have a 600 mph one before the Americans can get a New Jersey Transit train to run on time. Hehe.

    No One says:
    December 28, 2023 at 11:31 am

    NEOM and The LINE is the most bullshit property development project I’ve ever seen.
    King Salman’s Ozymandias moment.
    Must be a cash bonanza for the consultants hired to make the powerpoints and the videos for it. Attracting the top bulshitters and yes-men from around the world.
    Sure, build “a city” in a straight line 170km long in the Saudi desert.
    https://www.neom.com/en-us/regions/theline
    Watching the video above and seeing these people either lying for money, or being that deluded, it’s embarrassing.

  40. 3b says:

    Well if we have roaring 2020 s, it will be us Boomers that benefit! It really is all about us!

  41. Bystander says:

    All is well. Many believe that everyone is wealthy and market can only move up. Unemployment is low. Just found out that my brother got laid off from NYC hedge fund earlier this month. 40 product engineers gone, about 15% of firm. He is private person and obviously felt slightly ashamed. That is second person I know in my small circle of close friends and family let go from white collars jobs in Dec, people who would tell me such things. The micro explains macro. Smokes and mirrors economy. Roaring 20s..hah.

  42. Rename Phoenix - Vote Moscow Phoenix says:

    Phoenix,

    I swear you sound like a russkie or chinese troll sometimes. In fact I think your new name should be Moscow Phoenix. Don’t confuse manufacturing and building ability with political societal will to build it.

    The new Tappan Zee bridge has the built in design to carry train tracks. It would have been great to build the tracks and have Penn or Grand Central MTA trains running into Rockland, Orange and counties beyond. But residents of those counties oppossed it and no politician is going to go out on a limb for it.

    Remember a democracy if we are able to keep it and not go the way that your boss in Moscow or Beijing or go like Iran and we become a christian theocracy with a cleric on top and its clerical militias running around – means that people choose very inefficient, very non-meritocratic ways because they are following their own believes, hopes, and fears regardless of how warped they are.

    Your believes are easy to see. Your post are roughly 50% – Anti USA, 35% Anti-women, 15% Anti-legal/police system. I got a question for you. Did you ever have a cavity search done by an angry 300lb 6’5″ southern accented lesbian cop?

  43. Bystander says:

    He was hired in April 2022, full time. There is no long term investment. It is experimental for a few qtrs to see if big boys can make millions. If it does not pan out, you are gone.

  44. Fast Eddie says:

    Or a real high speed train. The Chinese will have a 600 mph one before the Americans can get a New Jersey Transit train to run on time.

    Yeah, but China doesn’t have bloated pension obligations, quadruple overtime and Cadillac coverage.

  45. Fast Eddie says:

    1bd/1bth @389K, the latest in NJ Starter Home luxury:

    https://www.trulia.com/home/5-dixon-ln-east-hanover-nj-07936-52401369

  46. Bob says:

    Thanks all for the feedback on the price of Hellmans mayo a couple weeks back. I live in NYC so that may account for some of the markup. More recently it has been on “sale” for $6.99. I bought a couple jars but something tells me I’m playing right into the hands of the Lard Cartel. Don’t get me started on olive oil.

    On NEOM, I was recruited for a mid-senior level position there last year. Comp was around $1m/year and the recruiter kept trying to sell me on the fact that this position would be in charge of awarding many contracts (implying socially acceptable graft). I expressed my skepticism on the feasibility of some of the technical elements of their plans to date, and he kept stressing that those challenges were not the responsibility of this role.

    The real deal breaker for me was that the compound of expats they wanted me to work from was essentially a prison and family members were not welcomed. That, and what would happen if I said I wanted to leave after a year and they didn’t want me to because I knew too much? I asked if I could work on some of the deliverables remotely, then present them to the principals as part of an onsite interview and tour. Recruiter said that the principals would only talk to me if I was unequivocally ready to accept the role on their terms. So I passed.

    All that aside, if I were MSB I’d buy up all the commercial nuclear technology I could and focus on that. Especially since all the people that built and ran the last gen plants are aging out. Screw professional golf, renewable energy, and NEOM.

  47. LAX says:

    12:23 …….911….I’d like to report a Murder!!!

  48. Very Stable Genius says:

    DeSantis War Room
    @DeSantisWarRoom

    CLEANUP ON AISLE 5

    LISTEN: Haley embarrassingly attempts to walk back her Civil War flub, explains that she couldn’t answer the simple question because the voter was a “Democrat plant.”

    Nikki Haley doesn’t have what it takes to win.

  49. Juice Box says:

    re: NEOM – I say good luck with that.

    Ain’t nothing there. They are planning for real ski slopes too, problem is well there is no snow. Even the highest mountain there 8,465 ft has very very little snow, it’s winter there now temps are around 60 F.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/28%C2%B000'23.0%22N+35%C2%B012'09.0%22E/@28.006389,35.2025,30705m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d28.006389!4d35.2025?hl=en&entry=ttu

  50. No One says:

    Bob,
    Interesting story!
    How much more was that $1m offer versus comparable work elsewhere?
    “I think your project is impossible”
    “Don’t worry about that, it’s not your problem, and you’ll be making so much money awarding contracts and living in our special desert compound with other men in our official tight orange jumpsuits”
    Know anybody who has taken them up on the offer?

  51. Juice Box says:

    I have a relative who was in Dubai for a long time. Project Manager from England, did very well for himself. Not a million a year however.

  52. 3b says:

    Fast: With the exception of trailer parks ( I guess), I had no idea one bedroom houses existed at least in north Jersey.

  53. Bob says:

    The comp was 2-3x compared to NYC. They were recruiting globally and so I think this was more of a factor for other folks. The recruiter named other organizations from which he was recruiting but I haven’t followed up to see who filled the role. The roster of people that I could see publicly at that point was neither impressive nor cohesive. As you noted, niche consultants.

    As I understand it, the govt is not proud of the fact that it can’t source any talent locally, especially after investing so much in establishing colleges and universities.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_and_colleges_in_Saudi_Arabia

  54. No One says:

    Bob,
    Honestly every exposure I or my colleagues have had to native “leadership” in that region has been very unimpressive. Dumb money that doesn’t have to get smarter because it keeps coming. And the ones foreigners see are probably the “smarter” ones.

    The company that I saw most up close was DP World in Dubai. The mostly government owned port operator. The higher up management was, the more idiotic they appeared to be.
    The low to mid-level foreign hires were fine. The top prince was an idiot. Making dumb-ass decisions that made no sense from a business perspective, only explainable by either stupidity or corruption, or both. Which meant that the high-level foreigners working directly for him had to be evasive yes-men, or idiots, or both.
    Eventually they got tired of their dumb decisions being challenged by foreign investors and went private so they didn’t have to any more.

  55. BRT says:

    I bought an olive oil at Ellinikon Greek deli in highland park the other day. $15 bucks, but it tastes equivalent to the $30 high end bottles I get out of Italy Occasionally you can find some decent bottles imported from the Middle East as well. California has some great brands as well. Although, stay away from California Olive Ranch. They were initially an awesome brand but have since sold out and diluted their product with crappy imported oils.

  56. grim says:

    Or a real high speed train. The Chinese will have a 600 mph one before the Americans can get a New Jersey Transit train to run on time.

    But … we’re getting a $2 billion dollar “air train” at EWR.

  57. Juice Box says:

    “air train”

    Nope it’s a tow rope train like a ski lift.

    Doppelmayr Cable Car America, Inc

    https://www.dcc.at/

    and it won’t be ready until 2029!`

  58. Very Stable Genius says:

    🚨 BREAKING NEWS 🚨

    Donald Trump gets DESTROYED by the Maine Supreme Court.

    That’s two states now. 🔥

  59. 3b says:

    Lib: And it’s even bigger now then too big to fail.

  60. chicagofinance says:

    LAX: how good is this? Some Russian dude stripped off the vocals from one of the better tracks of this year’s album.
    https://youtu.be/TrsBnDSv4ao?si=f0Jil2VAxl5i0gfI

  61. Very Stable Genius says:

    “I am mindful that no secretary of state has ever deprived a presidential candidate of ballot access based on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

    I am also mindful, however, that no presidential candidate has ever before engaged in insurrection.,”

  62. LAX says:

    7:33 legit!

  63. Phoenix says:

    “Don’t confuse manufacturing and building ability with political societal will to build it.”

    Reason doesn’t matter. At the end of the day if you can’t make it, you can’t make it. Like two posters posted after your post, a fake air train at EWR for 2 billion that is really a ski rope, and will take another 6 years to build. F’n American stupidity and greed. Does me pointing this out make me Pro Chinese or Anti-American? Actually me wanting America to get off it’s lazy azz and do something is kinda pro-American, don’t you think?

    “But residents of those counties oppossed it and no politician is going to go out on a limb for it.”

    The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many. Yeah, that sounds like a democracy to me. It’s not a matter of being pro Chinese, it’s just that they get stuff done while America is busy making excuses and not doing anything other than making a few people wealthy at the expense of others.

    As far as your percentages, what happened to Boomer? I thought I was more anti boomer than anything else. Hehe.

  64. LAX says:

    America has been selling or closing its mfg capacity for decades. Somehow we decided that we didn’t want to make things. The shift to a service economy hasn’t exactly lifted all ships. If we continue on this course, which is based upon greed and corporate profits we’ll find ourselves ill prepared should we actually need things. One reason we beat Germany in WW 2 was that Detroit was able to outbuild the German war machine.
    I’m not so sure we could pull that off today.

  65. BRT says:

    The US is like an old computer that has too much crap simultaneously running on it in the background. It just seizes and ceases to function in any usable manner. The only way to fix the computer was to wipe it clean. We have hundreds of 3 letter agencies at the federal and state levels that have grown out of control and try to extend their influence beyond their mandates. What I can’t fathom though is that politicians were always grifters and tried to steal the fruits of labor. But these days, Western culture has politicians that are hellbent on destroying every aspect of society.

  66. TraitorJoe says:

    These are radical Marxists. They found a corrupt bag of blood without shred of principle to serve as a vehicle for their Revolution.

    The fall in a short period of time is breathtaking. We’re now a punchline across the third world. Hostile nations everywhere are advancing.

    The only response we get from our government is to tighten the grip of tyranny. They denounced half the country as extremist and have medically attacked them with state powers.

  67. TraitorJoe says:

    Damn the democrat party and its legacy of support for slavery. It’s existence is a stain on humanity.

  68. Juice Box says:

    BRT – You are following Vivek I see.

    Bureaucratic authority inhibits democracy and slows things to a crawl, just how they like it. Blind adherence to rules and process that is the red tape. However there is something to be said for accountability. The Politician may still be stealing but it’s much harder. You now have to be a politician like Obama who in exchange for keeping Net Neutrality got an 8 figure contract to be a Netflix producer, something he is wholly unqualified for. He was supposed to run high-profile projects with him moderating talks on immigration and climate change etc. NOPE we got a national parks narrating role and Waffles and Moochie’s restaurant.

    A $200,000 a year presidential pension does not even pay for the chef, butler and full times staff he has neverminded flying his family only on Private Jet off to his 8 figure homes in Hawaii, DC, Martha’s Vineyard and Chicago.

  69. Fast Eddie says:

    Is it possible to be convicted of a crime without a trial nor being charged? Asking for a friend.

  70. LAX says:

    8:58 oh look…Tom Cotton is here….

    Tom Cotton
    @TomCottonAR
    The Civil War started because the American people elected an anti-slavery Republican as president and Democrats revolted rather than accept minor restrictions on the expansion of slavery to the western territories.

  71. LAX says:

    9:27 the 14th amendment insurrection clause doesn’t require a conviction if that’s what you are asking.

  72. TraitorJoe says:

    You’re advocating for a coup, which is at least the second attempt by the left in the past few years. It’s would also be the end of the United States. I wonder how many people actually want that verse the number who are goaded by conformity to say it. We’ll find out.

  73. Phoenix says:

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 29, 2023 at 9:27 am
    Is it possible to be convicted of a crime without a trial nor being charged? Asking for a friend.

    I’d reckon in America it is. Here is my question to you:

    Is it possible in America to be tortured into a confession? Is this America? Can they legally take your “friend” here?
    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/guantanamo/article2206171.html

  74. Phoenix says:

    TraitorJoe says:
    December 29, 2023 at 8:54 am
    The only response we get from our government is to tighten the grip of tyranny.

    Mississippi police arrested the ten year old boy, who is Black, after seeing him urinating behind his mother’s car.

    The 2020 arrest of a 10-year-old Black girl who had drawn an offensive picture at school was a violation of her civil rights, the ACLU has said

  75. Juice Box says:

    Very murky one for sure. History does Rhyme however.

    The last time the 14th amendment was used successful was a century ago against anti WWI lawmaker Victor Berger. He was not an insurrectionist, but was under federal indictment for espionage and was convicted and sentenced to 20 years.

    But in this case it was Congress who refused to seat him while under indictment, not state courts or bureaucrats attempting to exercise power they may not even have. Berger was convicted but it was later overturned by the US Supreme Court over the bias the Federal Judge showed during the his trial and charges were later dropped.

    I am all for innocent till proven guilty. We all have our opinions about Trump and what he did or did not due on January 6th. We should wait until the Federal trial is over. After all as in the case of Victor Berger the twice elected Congressman from Wisconsin he was wrongly denied his congressional seat as the Supreme Court overturned his conviction.

    Some history from the Cheeseheads..

    https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS3416

  76. TraitorJoe says:

    Well if you’re citing the ACLU then I’m immediately skeptical. They’ve abandoned any mission tied to civil rights a number of years back. They only serve now to obtain special privileges for favored groups of people.

  77. Phoenix says:

    BRT says:
    December 29, 2023 at 8:34 am
    The US is like an old computer that has too much crap simultaneously running on it in the background. It just seizes and ceases to function in any usable manner.

    I agree. You can see it in action right here when one of it’s CPU’s go into failure during a press conference.

    https://youtu.be/6ing_Ibuw6s?t=8

  78. Phoenix says:

    TraitorJoe says:
    December 29, 2023 at 10:00 am
    Well if you’re citing the ACLU then I’m immediately skeptical.

    Skeptical of what? That a cop arrested a 10 year old for taking a piss behind mommy’s car when he couldn’t hold it? Or do the four letters ACLU somehow trigger you into a malfunction that makes you no longer capable of rational thought?

  79. TraitorJoe says:

    Everything they do or say.

    Where were they when Biden forced 50-100 million people to get a shot they didn’t need. Of when the government mass censored online speech.

  80. Chicago says:

    You can’t be serious. I know you have been dealt a brutal hand, but viewing China with envy is misplaced.

    I have a family property issues in Albania. We now have some occurring as we speak. The provincial government of Durres backed by money from the UAE just came in and built over our property lines. No warning. No notification after the fact. Just simply fuck you. Now we have to go and sue the corrupt government in a compromised court system. To the point about Obama getting backdoor payments from Netflix, they are tracking down judges who have money and property that cannot seem to be traced to their income or legitimate sources. The wealth just appeared. Supposedly, 40% of the judiciary in the country is being fired.

    Anyway, fucking fuck. My 2024 is going to suck.

    Phoenix says:
    December 29, 2023 at 1:51 am
    It’s not a matter of being pro Chinese, it’s just that they get stuff done while America is busy making excuses and not doing anything other than making a few people wealthy at the expense of others.

  81. LAX says:

    Sorry to hear about the issues ChiFi, that has to be infuriating.

    I think Obama made a lot money on his book deals.

    When I think of the familial land lost in Prussia during WW2 I wince.
    A 3 story mansion with a tennis court and a waterfront Black Sea lentil processing plant that was state of the art for its time and of massive size and scope. Koenigsburg is now considered Russian land.

  82. Fast Eddie says:

    Covid, day 6, turned the corner yesterday. I guess two previous nights waking up to sweaty tee shirt is the virus leaving the host? Four days of a sore throat sucked but that’s gone now. Day two was the fever, didn’t have one since. Taste and smell is compromised at the moment… oh well. I have named this sickness the NLB (Nasty Little Bitch) Virus. I’m no longer a Covid virgin!

  83. Boomer Remover says:

    I saw Napoleon last night. If not for the uncomfortable seats in the screening theater, the three hours just flew by. Joaquin Phoenix was believable as a broody, patriotic, lovesick emperor. Cinematography was excellent.

    There are lines out the door for two things in late December: Eyeglasses and 529’s.

    There are no tax breaks for 529 contributions in the state of NJ. After maxing out the usual suspects, I’m not to keen on locking money up today given the market run up. Am I missing something?

  84. Boomer Remover says:

    f I know I won’t contribute more than $34K next year…. there’s no added benefit to lock the money in today for 2023, last day of the year to do so.

  85. Juice Box says:

    Chi – re: “I have a family property issues in Albania”

    It really is a lovely spot. Do you rent it on Airbnb?

    http://tinyurl.com/27d6yycd

  86. Hold my beer says:

    What about when the cops go to the wrong hotel room and arrest you instead of admitting they made a mistake?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-sues-west-jordan-police-230913550.html

  87. Juice Box says:

    Boomer – As I have pointed out which fell on Libturd’s deaf ears there is allot of CASH sloshing around looking for new homes, in 401ks, ETFs and everything else.

    Where will it all go? I myself want to reallocate my cash…

  88. Phoenix says:

    Aaah, don’t worry about that.

    Drumph is going to idemnify them if he becomes President again. Then they can take this lady into the bathroom, perform a 3 way with her, and she will never be able to sue.

    Hold my beer says:
    December 29, 2023 at 11:09 am
    What about when the cops go to the wrong hotel room and arrest you instead of admitting they made a mistake?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-sues-west-jordan-police-230913550.html

  89. Phoenix says:

    Oh, and if they get her pregnant, he will make it illegal for her to get an abortion as well.

  90. Phoenix says:

    Chicago says:
    December 29, 2023 at 10:16 am
    You can’t be serious. I know you have been dealt a brutal hand, but viewing China with envy is misplaced.

    Liking or agreeing with part of something is not the same as liking and agreeing with all of something.

    Life isn’t all or nothing. That is why they make a logical fallacy chart.

    And my sympathy for someone stealing your land. People here in America steal your property as well with no repercussions. It is never pleasant.

  91. Phoenix says:

    HMB,

    You think that woman will ever trust a police officer again?

    Welcome to the world of being violated in the interest of “justice.”

    Bet she will have some PTSD from that.

  92. Phoenix says:

    Where will it all go? I myself want to reallocate my cash…

    Talk to Eddie. He can help you find a property. He is like a bloodhound with that nose, he can smell the combo of skunked Rheingold, dried urine, and fear of impending death.

    It can all be cleaned and flipped for a few bucks. Or just have him sell tickets to the open house for you.

  93. Phoenix says:

    Talk to Eddie. He is like a bloodhound with that nose, he can smell the combo of skunked Rheingold, dried urine, and fear of impending death.

    Well, maybe not after Covid. Sorry Eddie, missed your post where you got sick.
    Hope you feel better soon. Someone has to be able to find those properties for us.

  94. Fast Eddie says:

    Phoenix,

    This bloodhound can’t smell a f***ing thing right now. I was just cleaning the kitchen with some bleach spray and can’t smell it at all. Aroma candles? Nothing. Garlic and onions? Nothing. The only thing I can smell is democrat skullduggery.

  95. Boomer Remover says:

    I know you are likely a ride or die Ivermectin man, but I would have hopped on the antivirals day one. I was on my Peloton bike and back to doing Millennial things like 36 hours after my first dose.

    My coworker hasn’t regained her sense of smell when it comes to certain things, and it’s been four years. So, now that you’ve likely gone nose deaf for good, are you finally going to sell at the top to some unsuspecting hoomer and head for greener pastures?

  96. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    The real test is if you can smell your fingers after a date with Lauren Boebert.
    Hehe

    Boebert made headlines over the summer after she was caught on camera groping a date, vaping and taking selfies at a performance of the musical Beetlejuice in Denver, and then giving ushers the finger when she was asked to leave and declaring: ‘Do you know who I am?’

  97. Fast Eddie says:

    So, now that you’ve likely gone nose deaf for good, are you finally going to sell at the top to some unsuspecting hoomer and head for greener pastures?

    When I decide to sell, I’ll post here first and give away the 1st 25 open house line tickets for free. Let it be said that Eddie always took care of his friends.

  98. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    I’ll come, but only if you put out a fresh bowl of Chex Mix for me.

  99. LAX says:

    12:08 maybe now you can finally go down on your wife….

    Ba da biiiiing

  100. leftwing says:

    “…the 14th amendment insurrection clause doesn’t require a conviction if that’s what you are asking…”

    But it does require a finding of insurrection, and who has empowered and qualified this little rural girl to make that finding?

  101. No One says:

    I was wondering who they made that new PoS movie Napoleon for, and apparently it’s for our own little millennial, “Boomer Remover”. Millennials like to see historical figures pissed and shat on. The only thing missing was a black actor to play him. Absent that, it had to be either Juaquin Phoenix or Adam Driver.

  102. Chicago says:

    That is EXACTLY what I was thinking

    LAX says:
    December 29, 2023 at 12:32 pm
    12:08 maybe now you can finally go down on your wife….

    Ba da biiiiing

  103. Chicago says:

    For the record, but I assume you don’t qualify.

    What Makes NJBEST Special for New Jersey Families
    State Tax Deduction
    New Jersey taxpayers, with gross income of $200,000 or less, may qualify for a state income tax deduction for contributions into an NJBEST plan of up to $10,000 per taxpayer, per year, beginning with contributions made in tax year 2022.4

    Boomer Remover says:
    December 29, 2023 at 10:56 am
    There are no tax breaks for 529 contributions in the state of NJ. After maxing out the usual suspects, I’m not to keen on locking money up today given the market run up. Am I missing something?

  104. Boomer Remover says:

    Thank you, Chi. Yeah, incomed out of another money handout. Nothing new here.

    You are not my financial advisor, but some time ago this came up in discussion and I opened one in Nevada. It tucks into my Vanguard dashboard nicely, but does not have a benefit.

  105. Phoenix says:

    “Millennials like to see historical figures pissed and shat on.”

    If they deserve it, who cares? Hey Hitler deserves it and no one is complaining when he is pissed and shat on. And for good reason.

  106. Phoenix says:

    Yeah, try and coordinate this with a fukked up ex spouse like mine.

    Its easier to steal food from a starving lion.

    What Makes NJBEST Special for New Jersey Families
    State Tax Deduction
    New Jersey taxpayers, with gross income of $200,000 or less, may qualify for a state income tax deduction for contributions into an NJBEST plan of up to $10,000 per taxpayer, per year, beginning with contributions made in tax year 2022.4

  107. Phoenix says:

    But it does require a finding of insurrection, and who has empowered and qualified this little rural girl to make that finding?

    Feminism?

  108. BRT says:

    If they deserve it, who cares? Hey Hitler deserves it and no one is complaining when he is pissed and shat on. And for good reason.

    Yeah, but they are usually too stupid to even know who’s who. They were desecrating a statue of Stevie Ray Vaughn a few years back.

  109. Phoenix says:

    Money will get you every time. My guess, she was out Monkey Branching to get off the about to crash tree she was on.

    Wealthy Massachusetts couple found dead in ‘murder-suicide’ along with daughter, 18, faced financial trouble – filed for bankruptcy and had foreclosure notice on $6.7 million home in affluent town
    A couple from Dover, Massachusetts, were discovered dead alongside their teenage daughter by a relative who was ‘checking-in’ on them
    The bodies of Teena and Rakesh Kamal, 54 and 57, and their teenage daughter Ariana were found in their $6.7 million mansion on Thursday night

  110. Phoenix says:

    Yeah, but they are usually too stupid to even know who’s who. They were desecrating a statue of Stevie Ray Vaughn a few years back.

    That’s why I said if they deserve it. I had some latitude baked in for the Dolts of America.

  111. Juice Box says:

    Damm why did you mention 529 ? I just checked and it ours not meet the S&P returns this year…. I may have to kick in more money or sign them up for Army training..

    https://youtu.be/YCXUMYDyHs4?t=94

  112. Chicago says:

    Tax exempt appreciation sounds like the best benefit of all time short of throwing in a happy ending too

    Boomer Remover says:
    December 29, 2023 at 2:18 pm
    You are not my financial advisor, but some time ago this came up in discussion and I opened one in Nevada. It tucks into my Vanguard dashboard nicely, but does not have a benefit

  113. Phoenix says:

    Florida woman who wants money but doesn’t want to work for it. Where are those f’n alligators when you need them?

    Hershey’s hit with $5MILLION lawsuit by Florida woman over ‘misleadng’ Reese’s Halloween candy – packs showed treats had Jack-o-Lantern faces on them when they did not
    Cynthia Kelly bought a pack of Reese’s peanut butter pumpkins in October
    She says she would not have purchased the candy if she knew it didn’t come with the carved out face advertised on the packaging
    A class-action lawsuit now seeks to recover $5 million in damages for customers in Florida who purchased the affected Reese’s products

  114. Hold my beer says:

    Phoenix

    How can they have been wealthy if they were in foreclosure and filed for bankruptcy? They took the 2 cars at 80k each in driveway of rotting 1937 colonial to another magnitude.

  115. 3b says:

    Hold: How can lots of people be supposedly wealthy and have debt up to their ears.

  116. Juice Box says:

    3B – re: “supposedly wealthy”

    Even I a slouch in this discussion sees too much excess. When s slouch like me gets invited to multiple parties it’s not good.

    Not that I don’t want to party folks… How many parties are you invited too?

  117. Hold my beer says:

    3b

    As long as you can make the payments debt = wealth.

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