Update on the most important town in NJ

From Patch:

These Development Projects Could Transform Wayne In 2018

There are nine TEN development projects in the works that could change the township and continue to improve the local economy.

In his annual State of the Township address, Mayor Christopher Vergano stated that the following projects “will come to fruition” this year:

A 122-room Marriot Hotel on Route 46 West
CarMax’s redevelopment of the former State Farm property off of Route 23 North
A 150-unit assisted living facility on Hamburg Turnpike on the former Partners in Research property
A new 100,000-square-foot retail center on the Wayne Hills Mall property.
A 400,000-square-foot warehouse at 150 Totowa Road
A new Hilton Hotel at the former Bally’s health club on Old Turnpike Road off of Route 46
SHAKE SHACK (grim edit)

A controversial apartment and retail complex is going on Route 23 South. A five-story apartment building, 12,800-square-foot building and a 262-seat restaurant to be built on the 10-acre site.

The Willowbrook Mall-area will see two major developments this year.

Also, Dave & Buster’s is expected to open only its second New Jersey location Feb. 19. The entertainment and dining establishment is being constructed on the second floor of the Sears store at the Willowbrook Mall.

Also, Cinemark will open a 12-screen movie theater at the old Sears Auto Center at the Willowbrook Mall.

Vergano mentioned the township’s AAA bond rating, which is attributed to a “very strong financial position, an affluent wealth and income profile and a considerable tax base.”

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132 Responses to Update on the most important town in NJ

  1. grim says:

    AAA on all bonds for at least 6-7 consecutive years now. Wayne is one of about 20 towns in NJ that have a track record in AAA, alongside Chatham, Princeton, Summit, etc.

    We’re talking an easy $1-2 million in new ratables from this years developments. This doesn’t even consider the new businesses opening in the existing developments, or companies moving into existing industrial/commercial properties.

    Also in the pipeline is a 7 acre development on a vacant lot on Hamburg, another easy $200-300k in ratables where there was basically zero before. Also, likely 75-100 retail/restaurant jobs, which is positive due to the proximity to William Paterson.

  2. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    @bessbell

    We’re living in an incredible era where we might die in a nuclear inferno because a 70-year old basket case whose dad never loved him tricked disgruntled white people into voting for a fake get-rich scheme by selling hats.

  3. Yo! says:

    Nice job by Wayne keeping its act together and approving new building projects including residential.

    Report by housing expert several years ago showed NJ takes longer than any other state to approve new housing.

  4. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    Grim – you available for some consultation on this?
    looking into a new construction and builder can make changes

    grim says:
    January 1, 2018 at 11:03 am
    For those converting to LED, if you have issues with flicker at low dim levels, issues with low wattage bulbs inconsistently flashing, flickering, not turning on the little Lutron LUT-MLC wire-in minimum load caps work like magic. I use to keep at least 1 conventional incandescent bulb installed to keep the new dimmers, switches, working properly, even with approved/compatible bulbs. Spent the morning installing them on every problematic lighting circuit I have, and they work like a charm. Removed at least 250 watts worth of incandescents, including a 40w in my kitchen that is on most of the day/night. Killed me having to keep incandescents in the recessed lighting.

    Made me nuts, tons of issues on my fancy new Lutron Caseta connected dimmers. Now to install a motion sensor in the finished basement and connect it to the Wink, to turn the basement lights off when nobody is down there.

  5. grim says:

    Vergano started the transformation in 2013, when they revised the master plan to drive new residential and commercial development in the town. The years prior, Wayne lost $21m in ratables, and it was clear a turnaround was needed. Despite the controversy from the nearly-dead residents of Wayne, thankfully the plan moved forward. The master plan calls for roughly 2,000 new residential units focused on attracting younger residents – young professionals, etc. The Rt 23 development approved 232 rental units.

  6. grim says:

    Oh, and how can I forget, the Fuddruckers on Rt 23 is going to become an upscale firing range (yes, there is such a thing).

  7. grim says:

    Grim – you available for some consultation on this?
    looking into a new construction and builder can make changes

    The pricing uplift is massive. You are going from like $3 a switch to $50. Just tell the electrician you want Lutron Caseta switches, they’ll know exactly what to do. Likewise, tell him you want LEDs in all the cans. Modules last a whole lot longer than screw in bulbs, but of course, the price is higher. There is nothing special about the wiring, which should be done completely conventionally, even in situations where you don’t need the wires (connected three/four way switches operate wirelessly).

    You are on your own with the hub and programming, those guys never want to touch that. The new systems are considerably easier than the old “smart home” systems like RadioRA and others, which required a shit ton of extremely expensive, proprietary hardware.

    Oh, keep in mind with Caseta, you have a maximum of 50 connected switches. If you are talking like 7,500 square feet or something, you need a system like RA, which is big bucks, require certified installers, and nobody wants to touch it with a ten foot pole unless you are a millionaire putting up a mansion in Alpine, in which case they will, but you are putting their kid through college.

  8. grim says:

    From Bloomberg:

    The Tax Law Hits Manhattan Home Sales

    Manhattan home resales fell in the fourth quarter as buyers wavered ahead of the expected tax overhaul and stood firm in their refusal to overpay.

    Sales of previously owned condos and co-ops dropped 11 percent from a year earlier to 2,127, appraiser Miller Samuel Inc. and brokerage Douglas Elliman Real Estate said in a report Wednesday. That was the lowest for a fourth quarter since 2011.

    Buyers who did commit to a purchase held out for the best deal. More than 88 percent of homes that changed hands in the quarter did so at or below the asking price, the firms said. Resellers offered discounts of 5.7 percent on average, compared with 4.5 percent a year earlier. The median price for resales was $916,425, up 1.8 percent.

    “The buyer is very worried about overpaying,” Steven James, chief executive officer of Douglas Elliman’s New York City division, said in an interview. “The fourth quarter was when it absolutely just caught in their throat, where they said ‘No, I’m not going to do it.’”

    Manhattan home prices aren’t rising as sharply — or briskly — as they were just two years ago, and buyers have taken notice of the new measured pace of growth. Plans to pass a federal tax law that limits deductions for state and local levies, and would make homeownership more costly, also weighed on shoppers’ minds, said Hall Willkie, co-president of Brown Harris Stevens.

  9. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    many thanks grim.
    don’t mind paying premium but expect excellent quality. that’s why i asked you.
    nobody cares about high end beauty & design as consumers demand crap, crap and more crap their lunch menu is $1

  10. grim says:

    Have a Ring Pro doorbell installed too. Ring Pro – this requires normal doorbell wiring. Why? No stupid batteries and a nicer looking installation. Not the Elite, because that requires Power Over Ethernet, and makes it nearly impossible to install a conventional doorbell in the future (if you want to go backwards).

    Request Ecobee3 thermostats installed. Not the more expensive version 4, which have Alexa installed. The battle of home automation isn’t over yet, and Alexa hasn’t won. No sense paying all that money to lock-in to Alexa when the version 3 has very broad compatibility. Ecobee3 beats Nest in every way possible. Again, this requires conventional powered thermostat wiring, no batteries.

  11. grim says:

    Between the Lutron Caseta, Ecobee, and Ring, you’ll have pretty much everything covered – automated lighting/power, hvac, and basic security. I think Wink makes the best smart home hub, very easy to use, broad compatibility as well.

  12. D-FENS says:

    Hope these new Wayne businesses have flood insurance.

  13. grim says:

    None of these properties saw water, even during the big 2011 flood. The Rt 23 complex that caused an uproar, even that was well above the flood water.

    Wayne has been systematically tearing down all the flood properties in places like Hoffman’s Grove, etc. Drove through a few weeks ago, the old lake communities are looking like ghost towns.

  14. D-FENS says:

    “Guntry Club” is the term for an upscale range BTW…

    Have you shot the Shield yet Grim?

  15. grim says:

    We’re currently in the third round of buyouts and teardown funded by FEMA.

    First round was $20.5 million for 64 properties, 2015-2016ish
    Second round was $14.3 million for 57 properties, Jan 2017
    Third round was $2.4 million for 14 properties, Oct 2017
    Through Blue Acres and Hazard Mitigation Program – $18.6 million for 93 properties.

    All in, including programs not mentioned, we’re talking 400+ properties in flood already removed, or in the process of being torn down and removed. The vast majority of Wayne’s flood area will be returned to undeveloped floodplain … and subsequently raise median/average incomes and home values as the lowest priced 2-3% of homes are removed from the statistics.

  16. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Congressional investigators find irregularities in FBI’s handling of Clinton email case

    shocker.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/367141-congressional-investigators-find-irregularities-in-fbis-handling-of

  17. Grab them by the puzzy says:

    Thank you, good call on not locking me into alexa

    i have a meeting w builder and will bring this list

    will look into WINK

    my provider will be FIOS so need to talk CAT5 or 6

    grim says:
    January 3, 2018 at 7:53 am
    Between the Lutron Caseta, Ecobee, and Ring, you’ll have pretty much everything covered – automated lighting/power, hvac, and basic security. I think Wink makes the best smart home hub, very easy to use, broad compatibility as well.

  18. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    My automated household consists of 2 water sensors in the basement. A $75 wireless thermostat. A wireless doorbell and 6 bluetooth activated TrackR fobs which help me find my keys, the harmony remote and my wallet. Also, have a 13 year old dog. None are linked together through any hub. All are controllable via my iPhone or through any web browser on the internet except for the dog. The complete cost of my setup? Less than 4 of Grim’s fancy switches plus the dog.

    Had an infuriating issue at the multi yesterday. As I’m driving home from Union, I get the call that a socket exploded, the wall was on fire, but apparently went out. They were afraid the fire might still be burning. I asked them if there was any new smoke and they said no. These are my Millennial tenants. I get there and they were running a large screen tv and a portable heater on a $2 Chinese special extension cord. There is the tell tale sign of a short at the socket as there is one of the carbon cloud stains on the plugs and the wall and socket cover. I go to pull out the prongs from the cheapo extension cord and I can’t. One prong has fused itself to what remains of one of the sockets. My diagnosis? That prong got so hot from running a TV and a heater that it melted the socket to the point of where the plastic inside the female socket, which was acting as an insulator. Was no longer there to insulate. I literally had to cut the fused prong off the extension cord. The house is filled with these extension cords. Though I don’t have tons of sockets, there is a decent amount. The problem is that this tenant has every gadget known to mankind and keeps them all plugged in always. After a brief mention of phantom power and the need for them to replace all of those cheapo extension cords with name brand (GE, Belkin, etc.) surge protectors at a thicker gauge. They looked at me as if I was speaking Chinese. I briefly tried to explain to him how wires are rated for particular capacities and that his wires were suited to handle the power needs of a table lamp and clock radios. But the concept was lost on them. Though the full-time au-pair seemed to understand what I was saying. Hmmmm.

  19. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    This must bother Pumps. Almost everyone in Wayne with an equivalent education level as him are being bought out.

    We’re currently in the third round of buyouts and teardown funded by FEMA.

    First round was $20.5 million for 64 properties, 2015-2016ish
    Second round was $14.3 million for 57 properties, Jan 2017
    Third round was $2.4 million for 14 properties, Oct 2017
    Through Blue Acres and Hazard Mitigation Program – $18.6 million for 93 properties.

  20. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    They should make an exception and buy out Pumps too, even though he lives a couple blocks away from the flood plain. Even if he made a profit (which he wouldn’t in the free market) it would liven things up to find out what that genius-level investor would come up with next. 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

  21. grim says:

    There is no scenario where a portable electric heater is more cost effective than turning up the heat.

    Those f@cking idiotic Amish Fireplaces should be illegal.

  22. Blue Ribbon Teachers says:

    The problem is that this tenant has every gadget known to mankind and keeps them all plugged in always. After a brief mention of phantom power and the need for them to replace all of those cheapo extension cords with name brand (GE, Belkin, etc.) surge protectors at a thicker gauge. They looked at me as if I was speaking Chinese.

    I’m sure they’ve made several online posts ridiculing science deniers on those gadgets.

  23. Juice Box says:

    Consumer Electronics Show is next week. Don’t buy anything existing merchandise cycle is ending and the new gear will be shipping soon, wait for the clearance sales.

  24. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    What it would be like if the internet went down for a day:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeZ0SIG2eJY

  25. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Lib – try to explain to someone that any charger that “fits” is not guaranteed to be the correct charger and can cause damage and/or fire if it doesn’t have the right voltage and amperage for the device. “But it fits, it’s the right size.”

  26. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ^^^charger or AC adapter.

  27. Juice Box says:

    There should be a home automation pricing war coming soon between all of these different systems.

    Here is the current cheapest Z-Wave switch. $7.23 each for non-dimmable rocker.

    https://www.ebarnett.com/Sku/3557085/preferred-industries-z-wave-decorator-wireless-rocker-switch-3-way-white-120-volts-15-amps-076335242897

    and the dimmable version for $32.52 each

    https://www.ebarnett.com/Sku/3557086/preferred-industries-z-wave-decorator-wireless-in-wall-preset-rocker-dimmer-switch-3-way-white-120-volts-500-watts-076335242859?rrec=True

  28. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Which reminds me, remember the old PS2 keyboard and mice sockets and connectors? We had a batch of Compaq laptops that used that same PS2 connector for both the connection to the charging brick as well as the external mouse/keyboard serial port. You can imagine how that turned out.

  29. grim says:

    Do the research on the reliability, there are tons of threads on the internet about cheap z-wave devices dying prematurely. Even the “GE” brand devices are considered trash by the automation community, frequently dying within the first year, and when they don’t, they lose settings and need to be reconfigured every month. Multiply this by 50 switches, you’ll tear them out by the third month and wish you had normal switches. Keep in mind, when they fail, it means the switch does not work, it doesn’t mean you just lose wireless connectivity and the switch continues to function as normal. When dead, the switch will no longer turn your lights on.

    Lutron has been doing wireless control switches for nearly a decade now, they were a pioneer in home automation before it was even a thing. Pony up for the Lutron switches, they are worth it.

  30. Yo! says:

    https://patch.com/new-jersey/wayne/trader-joes-luxury-apartments-could-go-route-23-site

    “Whole Foods said there are not enough college educated people in Wayne to have a store there.”

  31. grim says:

    That comment came from someone at Galreh, who was pushing for the residential project, who wanted to squash the idea of Whole Foods because local residents would have held out and rejected the residential project.

    The Regional Vice President of Whole Foods, who is the executive above all NJ’s stores, lives in Wayne. Whole Foods PR commented on it.

  32. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    Here is something I don’t quite get. Dimmer switches. Don’t have any at home but always have them in luxury resorts, hotels, etc. Never use them. They create havoc for LEDs. Are they really worth it?

    I would even question the automated home thing. Huge gains are had going from incandescent or CFL to LED. But turning off a 3 watt bulb automatically when someone leaves the room that one time per month that you forget to turn it off? Is it worth a $50 switch? You would never recoup your investment.

    Now I get it, if your goal is to impress nerds. Heck my brother has speakers whose cases are carved out of rare African trees to the tune of 10K for the pair.

    And I get the huge advantage of the wireless thermostat as even I have one and simply being able to crank up the heat, six hours before you come home from a vacation makes it worth while. But the snap your fingers, lights dim, disco ball drops from the ceiling and bed folds out stuff. Well unless you are scoring with it like Quagmire, I just don’t see the return on investment. And the constant reprogramming could drive one crazy unless you’re a complete geek. Hey, I own three Harmony remotes. But it’s only to get rid of the 7 remotes I would need without it. I just wish it had a mouse feature so it could control the Apple TV.

  33. grim says:

    Here is something I don’t quite get. Dimmer switches. Don’t have any at home but always have them in luxury resorts, hotels, etc. Never use them. They create havoc for LEDs. Are they really worth it?

    We use the dimmers all the time, but the fancy connected stuff, mostly for the outdoor lighting.

    We have lots of recessed lighting, I think we installed 50 cans when we remodeled. Now that the basement is done, I think we have nearly 70 cans. There are a total of three lamps in the whole house, they are decorative and never used.

    Some rooms have the recessed lighting split, so you can turn on half the bulbs if you don’t want retinal annihilation.

    We tend to use the dimmers at night. Kitchen and living room, usually by 8pm we have the lighting down half way. We have the LEDs that dim to warm, which gives you that nice and cozy warm glow.

    We don’t use scenes or anything. I did set all the bulbs to dim when you say, “Alexa, get me laid”, but that was a joke more than anything. The outdoor lights, at sunset they come on full, at midnight they go to 50%, off at sunrise. Most of the neighborhood runs their outdoor lights, because we are in a nice neighborhood that doesn’t believe in streetlights or on-street parking.

    You can get 99% of the value with less than 6 connected switches probably. The savings ROI is non-existent, it’s only a small offset for the geek factor.

  34. grim says:

    We also installed probably 25-30 additional outlets when we remodeled. Pretty much every flat wall has an outlet. I forget what the new code is, every 5-6 feet of wall. Just from where I’m sitting in my kitchen right now, I can see 7 new floor level outlets that didn’t exist previously. That doesn’t include the 2 on the island, and the additional one added on the counter. The new code around outlets was specific to eliminate the need to ever run an extension cord or a power strip inside of a house.

    Now that the basement is done, we have no free breaker slots left in the main panel, we ran tons of new circuits for lighting and outlets, dedicated circuits for appliances, dedicated circuits for GFIs, dedicated circuits for each bathroom.

    Next project is to start replacing the bedroom and main area breakers with combo ground fault (GFI) and arc fault (AFCI) breakers, to protect against what Stu was just talking about. Now that they are down to about 40 bucks a breaker, it’s cheap insurance.

  35. Fast Eddie says:

    The only time I see flicker with LEDs and a dimmer is when it is turned on (up) all the way. When I back down the dimmer, the flickering goes away. Explanation please.

  36. grim says:

    Are these old LED bulbs? Some old tech LED bulbs would switch on and off very rapidly to reduce power usage and heat generation. It could be that it’s just more noticeable on full power.

    Most people notice this on the LED tail lights of Cadillacs, look at them straight on, they are fine, turn your head quickly, and you see that they are flashing. The first generation of Escalades that had them were really bad, get behind one at a stoplight and it was irritating, was like a strobe light. They did this to extend the usable life of the LED element, because if one LED died, the tail lights would look idiotic, and it would cost a fortune to replace the whole unit. Well, they died anyway, and the tail lights all look terrible now, and still flicker like crazy.

  37. Fast Eddie says:

    Don’t know if their older LED bulbs are not. It doesn’t happen all the time. I’m not really crazy about these bulbs but I have been replacing them everywhere in the house. They’re not warm in appearance. Even when dimmed, everything appears too bright and white.

  38. Fast Eddie says:

    their = they’re

  39. JCer says:

    Grim, I like the caseta switches and leviton Vizia for z-wave, they are by far the most reliable. I have some gocontrol z-wave switches in my home, I’ve had a few of them for 6 months and so far so good, we will see how long they last, but the function has been nearly perfect thus far. The switch linked above for $7 isn’t a z-wave switch but rather the 3 way accessory switch. In 3-way setups z-wave/zigbee is the only option, caseta has no option. I do love the pico remote and mounting to add switches.

  40. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    Alexa, get me laid is pretty funny.

    Reminds me of the time I asked Gator if she wanted breakfast in bed. She replied, “yes.” So I said, let me just warm up the old Dutch Oven first and proceeded to rip a fart that would have made Mr. Taggert jealous. Needless to say, breakfast was not served.

  41. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    I will say this. About six months ago, I invested in a high quality digital entry lock for my back door. Cost about $125 on super sale. Wow is this the greatest thing since sliced bread.

  42. JCer says:

    eddie try to replace the dimmer, I’ve seen that in my house on old dimmers, I stuck an old rocker switch in and it’s all good.

  43. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    LOL. I wonder if they used actual data or just did a quick count of the highway homes in the neighborhood and made a quick assumption. 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃

    Hahahahahahaahahahahha

    https://patch.com/new-jersey/wayne/trader-joes-luxury-apartments-could-go-route-23-site

    “Whole Foods said there are not enough college educated people in Wayne to have a store there.”

  44. Mike says:

    I still have some two prong outlets in my house…

  45. grim says:

    NEVER COOL WHITE – EVER. FRIENDS DON’T LET FRIENDS BUY COOL WHITE.

    Only Warm White LED. This was the problem with CFL lighting, everyone bought those horrid “cool”, “daylight”, high kelvin/color temperature bulbs, it made kitchens look like hospitals or cheap convenience stores.

    2700-3000K bulbs only, *never anything else*.

    Do not look at the bulb comparisons in home depot and say, those look really yellow. 2700k is the color of a traditional filament bulb. In your house, it’ll provide a cozy, comforting light. 4000-6000k, will be cold, sterile, blue, piercing, ugly.

    Fun anecdote. High-end hotels ALWAYS use 2500-2700k bulbs in guest rooms as a matter of policy. They make the room feel more cozy, inviting, comfortable.

  46. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I ended up buying EGN, WPX, DO and…ARLP later that same day, which has worked out great (so far). I searched to find if any company was working on crude oil or coal in a spray can but couldn’t find any.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    December 29, 2017 at 12:21 pm
    MidCap Energy stocks are starting to look pretty good to me, including BRT’s ARLP.

  47. JCer says:

    grim I don’t know who is buying all the cool white bulbs, they seem to have equal quantities in the stores, but besides in a closet, the fridge, or a garage I cannto figure out where the cool white bulbs belong.

  48. grim says:

    If you are obsessed with lighting, buy 3000k bulbs with the highest color rendition index you can find.

    This is another little known difference between cheap bulbs and expensive bulbs. Don’t just look at the wattage and think, look this one is $3 cheaper, it’s a better deal. Don’t look at lumens per watt and think higher is better.

    LEDs are significantly better at color rendition than fluorescent bulbs, which is one of the reasons they are being adopted much faster. They look good. The spiral CFL bulbs, they always made everything look like shit, because they had a very peaky spectrum. Daylight CFL made people look ugly, they had huge blue and green peaks in their spectrum, they would make people’s skin look awful. There are bulbs that had such odd peaks, that they would actually accentuate the vasculature under your skin. Cool, I guess, if you were into making people look like zombies.

    We’re hitting a point now where we are seeing very good CRI levels out of warm bulbs, which is in my opinion, the best of both worlds. On the bright side, it’ll make you look more attractive at home. Alexa – get me laid.

  49. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    grim – you’re showing your cultural (anti?) bias. I’m sure you spent many happy moments in a Polish kitchen with this or something similar on the ceiling (maybe with a pull chain?). How can you make proper pigeons and perogies if your grandmother, great aunts, and great grandmother can’t see what they’re doing?

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lithonia-Lighting-55W-Equivalent-Bright-White-Circline-Spiral-Fluorescent-Light-Bulb-E-F2C5535-R6/202193195

    NEVER COOL WHITE – EVER. FRIENDS DON’T LET FRIENDS BUY COOL WHITE.

  50. A Home Buyer says:

    Grim / Lib,

    Code requires an outlet placed such that no wall space is not within 6 feet of a receptacle. Note, this actually allows 12 feet between receptacles. (6 feet to the middle point between them).

    Lighting controls are really big now because of energy code requirements. Typically only required for commercial, but it will eventually sink down to residential. Almost all circuits are required to be on some type of occupancy / vacancy sensor now… even if LED is used.

    Important note about LEDs… Many of the individual bulbs you can buy are not rated to be installed in enclosed fixtures which a large number of lamps / ceiling lights are. Need to check the box to see if it says “not to be used in totally enclosed fixtures”.

  51. JCer says:

    Mike replace them with GFCI, it’s a quick cheap/easy fix for 2 prong outlets if they fit in your boxes.

  52. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Not to mention rivel soup.

  53. grim says:

    Need to check the box to see if it says “not to be used in totally enclosed fixtures”

    This is why the module based recessed lighting is having way better usable lifespan than screwing LED PAR bulbs into fixtures.

    I have IC rated cans, because they are all in insulation (otherwise a fire hazard), but the IC can is basically a totally enclosed space. Meaning those fins on the back of the PAR bulbs to manage heat are basically useless. Not to mention, the cans are sitting in insulation, so it’s not like they’ll passively cool to the attic.

  54. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Should I be worried about my 2W LED under cab Xenon replacements? It seems like there is a whole hell of a lot less heat inside that tiny lens compartment than before.

    Interestingly, you can feel significant heat through the lens, but you can’t burn your finger like with the Xenons.

    Important note about LEDs… Many of the individual bulbs you can buy are not rated to be installed in enclosed fixtures which a large number of lamps / ceiling lights are. Need to check the box to see if it says “not to be used in totally enclosed fixtures”.

  55. grim says:

    No, the worst case with LED is the bulb burns itself out prematurely.

  56. grim says:

    Funny, those old circle fluorescent bulbs were usually better quality light than the compact fluorescents that replaced them.

  57. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Speaking of lifespan, my BIL told me that some commercial kitchens are doing stupid things with LED light like installing them as replacements above fryolators, etc. They just don’t stand up to the heat.

    BTW, there is a reason that cars still use old-fashioned lead-acid batteries for engine starting. None of the newer battery technologies can maintain a significant percentage of their cranking power at very low temps.

    Here’s a something I can’t believe I never knew before. Do you know where your old car batteries go? Into new batteries? BUZZZZZ!. Wrong answer. The correct answer is…bullets.

  58. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    We had a 1926 high ceilinged kitchen (remodeled in 1978 – almond appliances) in our small place with that (unremodeled) fixture in the ceiling. The ballast resistor went at some point and I replaced the whole fixture with something cheap, but similar. With the cheap plastic diffuser lens on the new unit it really wasn’t that bad at all.

    Funny, those old circle fluorescent bulbs were usually better quality light than the compact fluorescents that replaced them.

  59. A Home Buyer says:

    About color temperature and lighting…

    I would agree the only place 4000k and higher should ever be located in a house is the kitchen and specifically for independently switched task lighting.

  60. Trick says:

    “Request Ecobee3 thermostats installed. Not the more expensive version 4, which have Alexa installed. The battle of home automation isn’t over yet, and Alexa hasn’t won. No sense paying all that money to lock-in to Alexa when the version 3 has very broad compatibility. Ecobee3 beats Nest in every way possible. Again, this requires conventional powered thermostat wiring, no batteries.”

    I picked up the Ecobee4 for for the same price as the 3, We have a 1 zone forced hot air colonial, with a whole house humidifier off the furnace. Made a huge difference in regulating the temp on both floors with a sensors on both floors, and the fan running 10 minutes per/hr

  61. Blue Ribbon Teachers says:


    Daylight CFL made people look ugly, they had huge blue and green peaks in their spectrum, they would make people’s skin look awful. There are bulbs that had such odd peaks, that they would actually accentuate the vasculature under your skin. Cool, I guess, if you were into making people look like zombies.

    https://twitter.com/sebastiancomedy/status/809095654681231361?lang=en&scrlybrkr=8e4418e5

  62. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    We have a single CFL in our three-season room/porch whatever you call it. I turned the light on over the weekend for a couple minutes just to show it to someone and figured we must have two bulbs and one burnt out. Nope, just a single bulb, it just is very, very, very dim on turn on in very cold temps.

  63. Hold my beer says:

    Grim,

    Are the soft white led bulbs at Home Depot the ones to get? I bought a pack of daylight led bulbs last week to try out and it was like being outdoors at noon on a cloudless day.

    Does the height of the ceiling factor into daylight vs selecting soft/warm light? We have 14 ft ceiling in one room currently with daylight CFC bulbs

  64. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    Nope.

  65. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    The cool lighting is good for one thing. Performing color correction on a monitor.

  66. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Lib – In the CRT days I was adamant about spending ridiculous money for my own personal monitors which led me to Nanao/Eizo (In 1997 I paid over $1,000 out of pocket for a 17″, .24mm dot pitch Sony tube that was so expensive to make that Sony didn’t sell it in Sony monitors).

    Color Calibration History Question: Do you remember those sky-blue plastic “color forms” that you stuck on your monitor while calibrating? IIRC, it was like a sky blue plastic “window pane” that you stuck on the center of your monitor while going through the color and temp adjustments?

    The cool lighting is good for one thing. Performing color correction on a monitor.

  67. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    When I bought that monitor in 1997 I had a big office in my Long Island house. I had visions of using two computers side-by-side. My new computer with my new 27″ $1,100 monitor next to my old computer with my “pretty good” 25″ CTX monitor. After about a week I couldn’t stand to even look at my old monitor, even with my peripheral vision. I gave the old monitor and computer to my brother.

  68. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    What the hell am I talking about?

    My 27″ monitor was actually 17″
    My 25″ monitor was 15″

  69. Bloomberg News says:

    Stu, what water sensors are you using in the basement?
    Thanks!

  70. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Imagine paying $4,000 for a 1997 desktop PC and another $1,100 for a 17″ tube. All in 1997 dollars, of course.

    The PC had 64 MB of RAM and processor somewhere around 166 MHz Pentium MMX – Intel waited until after Christmas 1996 to release it, I bought it in February 1997 upon release.

  71. leftwing says:

    Hold, check the K measurement for light ‘color’. I’m not sure why they use any name labels with K, seems confusing.

    5000K is bright white, noonday light and usually labeled on the box as ‘daylight’. I have it in my kitchen. Just didn’t like only softer colors, everything was washed out, and I like the bright light for food prep (cook alot).

    2700K is ‘soft’ or whatever else they call it. More like the traditional lightbulb.

    Lumens matter also. If you install 1800 lumen, 5000k in outside lighting your property will resemble a prison yard during an escape. IIRC any 5000K I have is around 800 lumen or so. My kitchen 5000K are integrated fixtures, ie no bulbs, LED built in.

  72. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    USB 1.0 ports… and not a single USB device had been brought to market yet.

  73. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    Being in the industry and color certified by X-Rite, I know exactly what you are talking about. I think we had the same Sony under a different name monitor in our color correction studio in my old place. Had to be 1995 or so. Back then our fastest G3 Mac had a god awful amount of ram. I think 8MB. It was a powerhouse at the time.

  74. Fast Eddie says:

    Okay, enough about lightening and bulbs and sh1t. Is this what you people talk about when wooing members of the opposite sex?

  75. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Was there ever a single USB 1.0 device? By 2002 a really high end laptop had a single USB 1.1 port and there were still almost no devices.

  76. Libturd, AKA Dr. Howie Feltersnatch says:

    D-Link. So far, they have worked flawlessly for a little over a year. Real simple to install too. I have them at my multi too.

    https://www.amazon.com/D-Link-DCH-S160-mydlink-Wi-Fi-Sensor/dp/B00PVDUYPM

  77. Bloomberg News says:

    Thanks Stu

  78. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    How about that? My memory still works (albeit for useless purposes):

    Released in January 1996, USB 1.0 specified data rates of 1.5 Mbit/s (Low Bandwidth or Low Speed) and 12 Mbit/s (Full Speed)[27]. It did not allow for extension cables or pass-through monitors, due to timing and power limitations. Few USB devices made it to the market until USB 1.1 was released in August 1998. USB 1.1 was the earliest revision that was widely adopted and led to what Microsoft designated the “Legacy-free PC”

  79. Hold my beer says:

    Left wing,

    The pack I bought was 5000k. I put them in a high ceiling room we use for the kids computers and exercise. I think the 5000k is good for that kind of use and in kitchens, but would be too bright for bedrooms and bathrooms.

  80. chicagofinance says:

    Shhh

    does not fit narrative

    must suppress…..

    Germany and the state of California have experienced operational problems as solar has grown as an energy source. Because the sun isn’t continuously available, solar power at large scale doesn’t integrate well with the electric grid, which favor steady sources such as fossil fuels or nuclear. Solar power creates an expense for the whole system, even if the panels themselves are cheaper.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-02/solar-s-bright-future-is-further-away-than-it-seems?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=180102&utm_campaign=sharetheview

  81. leftwing says:

    Hold, agree. I don’t mind the 5000k that much other than bedrooms. My stuff is modern(ish) so the coolness of the light complements. We selected very specific colors in two rooms, I really don’t like what ‘normal’ lighting does to these colors. And we have a good amount of natural light coming in so the 5000k ‘matches’.

    Also we have pretty neat original solar tubes in the kitchen and a hallway. Not something I would have considered but they have really grown on me. They bring in an amazing amount of natural light and the 5000K is actually exactly the same shade. For those areas I got the integrated fixtures and then matched the bases of the tubes. The hallway has three tubes with three fixtures interspersed. Daytime, it is the brightest hallway I’ve seen with natural light illumination, nighttime looks the same except it comes from the fixtures, not the tubes. Kitchen, I split two of the tubes with a fixture. Looks like three of the same all in a row and produces the same light.

    Only thing I don’t like on the 5000k is it does create harsher shadows where the 2700K and ‘regular’ light from incandescent bulbs have little to none. Also came home the other night and the kid left a bunch of the interior lights on of course. The 5000k does look different from the curb.

  82. nwnj says:

    Once you wean yourself from the yellow light, the higher kelvin bulbs I find to be more pleasant. It’s ridiculous how yellow some rooms look with the yellow light, particularly if the walls aren’t white. I’ve moved the basement and utility room to 5000k and will get around to the bathrooms.

  83. leftwing says:

    I went to 5000k last winter in what I suspect was a bout of SAD. Really brightened the place up for those long dark hours.

  84. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Germany and the state of California have experienced operational problems as solar has grown as an energy source. Because the sun isn’t continuously available, solar power at large scale doesn’t integrate well with the electric grid, which favor steady sources such as fossil fuels or nuclear. Solar power creates an expense for the whole system, even if the panels themselves are cheaper.

    Have a friend that works for GE and is involved with water treatment for the power plants. He asked the guy about the solar panels along the turnpike. He said they generate like 1/100th of what the plant does over an equivalent area. In fact, at some point they broke and never bothered fixing them. He says they basically keep it there because people like to look at it.

  85. Trick says:

    Started replacing the interior lights on my SUV with LED’s, cheap upgrade and add’s a lot of light on those dark nights.

  86. grim says:

    My favorite bulbs are the Sylvania premium warm dim bulbs, they dim to like 2000k, like old filament bulbs.

    That said, consider the fact that I refuse to put LED christmas lights outside, because I think they look awful. Instead, I went out of my way to use the old screw in large bulb strings. Environment be damned.

    I love them, LED lit Christmas makes baby Jesus cry, especially those flickery primary color RGB strings.

  87. Juice Box says:

    Just when you thought the raw cow milk craze was bad enough.

    “Silicon Valley is developing a “raw water” obsession.”

    “You can’t stop consenting adults from being stupid,” Marler said. “But we should at least try.”

    “In San Francisco, “unfiltered, untreated, unsterilized spring water” from a company called Live Water is selling for up to $61 for a 2.5-gallon jug — and it’s flying off the shelves, The New York Times reported.”

    http://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-raw-water-obsession-2018-1

  88. grim says:

    F*ckng idiots.

  89. grim says:

    Started replacing the interior lights on my SUV with LED’s, cheap upgrade and add’s a lot of light on those dark nights.

    I need to do this, any specific brand?

  90. Trick says:

    No, I just went by size and reviews. Best deals are on amazon, one package had 10 LEDs for $13

  91. grim says:

    Just keep in mind the lower kelvin bulbs typically have the better color rendition (CRI). The higher kelvin bulbs have a lower CRI, because they generally reduce the red component to achieve the color temperature. This is in contrast to sunlight, which even during high sun/no clouds, has a plenty of red and has a 100 CRI.

    LEDs have gotten much better on CRI, with good bulbs pushing over 90, and 96 being available from specialty manufacturers. I think Ushio makes a LED bulb for museums that ranks among the best.

    I know this sounds like geeky esoterica, but like I said, this was one of the major reasons CFL never caught on in a big way, and why LED is basically owning the lighting market. This has huge positive repercussions for energy savings, because if people don’t adopt, the technology is moot.

  92. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I hope it really comes from somebody’s garden hose in Newark. Newark (and Boston) have really good water, btw.

    “In San Francisco, “unfiltered, untreated, unsterilized spring water” from a company called Live Water is selling for up to $61 for a 2.5-gallon jug — and it’s flying off the shelves, The New York Times reported.”

  93. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I bet Pumps thinks that Kelvin and Cool White are Section 8 renters.

  94. grim says:

    Just pissed myself a little.

  95. grim says:

    This just in, hot off the presses, Oregon permits self-service gas stations.

    NJ now the only state in the ENTIRE COUNTRY to prohibit self-serve.

  96. No One says:

    I think Libturd should start a business selling his used bongwater to the gullible. Grim can help him with the bottling side. Maybe two flavors, with and without extra urine.

  97. leftwing says:

    “Dear Lord Baby Jesus, or as our brothers in the South call you: ‘Jee-suz’. We thank you so much for this bountiful harvest of Dominos, KFC, and the always delicious Taco Bell. I just want to take time to say thank you for my family: my two beautiful, beautiful, handsome striking sons, Walker: Texas Ranger, or TR as we call him. And, of course, my red hot smokin’ wife Carley, who is a stone cold fox, who if you would rate her ass on 100, it would easily be a 94. I also want to thank you for my best friend and teammate, Cal Naughton Jr, who’s got my back no matter what…Dear Lord Baby Jesus, we also thank you for my wife’s father Chip. We hope that you can use your Baby Jesus powers to heal him and his horrible leg. It smells terrible and the dogs are always botherin’ with it. Dear Tiny Infant Jesus…Dear tiny Jesus in your golden-fleece diapers, with your tiny, little, fat, balled-up fists…Dear Eight Pound, Six Ounce, Newborn Baby Jesus, don’t even know a word yet, just a little infant, so cuddly, but still omnipotent. We just thank you for all the races I’ve won and the $21.2 million dollars… LOVE THAT MONEY, that I have accrued over this past season. Also due to a binding endorsement contract that stipulates I mention PowerAde at each grace, I just wanna say that PowerAde is delicious and it cools you off on a hot summer day and we look forward to PowerAde’s release of mystic mountain blueberry. Thank you, for all your power and your grace, Dear Baby God, Amen.”

  98. grim says:

    But don’t worry New Jersey, stand resolute, because what do 49 other states know, YOU MUST BE RIGHT.

  99. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    We have a no-name gas station up the street that just expanded to a second location, up the street the other way. Both are very cheap and are full serve only. When the temps hit the skids a couple weeks ago, suddenly they both have disparate self-serve and full-serve pricing. I think that’s the way it’s supposed to work.

  100. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency,” Trump said. “When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind.”

    Check out this article from USA TODAY:

    Trump says Steve Bannon ‘lost his mind’ when he was fired

    https://usat.ly/2CxL2MX

  101. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Good write up on Wayne today, Grim. I stand by my call last year that Wayne is one of the best values around. Wayne didn’t see the early appreciation like other desirable nj towns, but they will as the town looks like a complete bargain after the run up in these other towns.

    You can get a nice home in good commuting distance to everything with an excellent school system for 550,000 to 600,000. It’s getting to the point that it is almost impossible to find that in north jersey. Only matter of time that buyers drive this price up.

    Just remember how difficult it was to find a home for under 700k in north jersey 12-13 years ago. Why would this time be any different? They never kept up with building new houses. The supply is just not there. 2004 was driven on speculation. This price appreciation will be driven by good ol supply and demand fundamentals. Don’t forget the cost of rising commodity prices to build homes either(everything shooting up in price). If you think housing is expensive now…..lmao, wait till you see what is coming. And I’m not just talking about north jersey, I’m talking nationally.

  102. grim says:

    Wayne 23 Park and Ride – nearly impossible to find daily spots now, and the monthly spots are pretty full. A few times in the past couple of months I was not able to get a daily spot, and needed to hang around until 9:30 when you can take a monthly spot. Even then there were a half dozen cars scrambling for the few open monthly spots. Two years ago, it wasn’t a consideration that you would not get a daily spot.

  103. grim says:

    Let’s keep this Wayne Train going.

    ACS Population Survey for Wayne NJ

    Household Income ($200,000 or more) – Percentage of Total Households

    2009 – 13.6%
    2010 – 13.9%
    2011 – 15.5%
    2012 – 16.7%
    2013 – 17.7%
    2014 – 19.0%
    2015 – 18.6%
    2016 – 19.5%

    In case you are wondering, $150-200k stayed relatively constant at 14-15% of households.

  104. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Pumps – since you repeat this every single day, often multiple times a day we kind of get that you sit where you stand. Douchebag.

    I stand by my call

  105. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    It’s a reasonable hideout for you Pumps. You’d be shunned most places (where people talk).

    Wayne is one of the best values around.

  106. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3:57/4:04

    If someone can’t see the writing on the wall in these posts, they are blind.

    When I first bought in Wayne, houses on Alps would sit and almost all for sale. Now, nothing for sale, and you only see new construction. Writing on the wall.

    Hell, that newly constructed colonial on French Hill that sat because it was so expensive recently sold. Writing is on the wall.

  107. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Your just jealous that you could never afford to live where I live. My wife has friends all over town, so what do you say about that? She hardly ever has time to be home, why do you think I have so much time to educate you? Maybe next time you’ll listen to Pumps, learn from Pumps, and make money just like Pumps. But I think you are too stewpid to lern.

  108. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I meant “to stoupid to laern” I type fsat and I ivest fats.

  109. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Hey Pumps – I know a couple guys, Kelvin and Cool White, who are looking to rent rooms in a fast getaway shack. Do you want to make some extra green?

  110. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Vegas might be a great 3-5 year investment right now. Vegas still 30% below peak. Their economy is tearing it up, and the home prices aren’t that expensive. Only matter of time before they start driving the price up. At the longest, would hold 5 years. Don’t want to get too greedy and hit market top, you just want a piece of the coming appreciation.

  111. The Great Pumpkin says:

    In 3 years, you have a shot at 30% appreciation in vegas. That risk/reward ratio is pretty sweet.

  112. grim says:

    I’d buy something wrecked in the keys with the idea of parking an airstream on the lot.

  113. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My brother is an electrician, and he works a lot for under the table money. I’m thinking about buying some Vegas houses, send my bro out there to hire some illegals and start raking in unreportable cash, just like Dad.

  114. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ^^^ Do you see how you wouldn’t ever fit in Glen Rock. If you were a higher class criminal, OTOH, you might make some friends on Urban Club Road. Unfortunately, they mostly only like Italians. Loose Slavs sink ships.

  115. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Expat,

    Have to admit, you are on a roll today 🤣

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    January 3, 2018 at 4:36 pm
    My brother is an electrician, and he works a lot for under the table money. I’m thinking about buying some Vegas houses, send my bro out there to hire some illegals and start raking in unreportable cash, just like Dad.

  116. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    A HS degree goes far.

  117. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I wouldn’t know.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    January 3, 2018 at 4:43 pm
    A HS degree goes far.

  118. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Some people with HS degrees actually move to different counties. Some, even, to different states.

  119. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You mean there is a way to get out of this county?! Please tell me your secret!

  120. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “And here, we’re seeing wage growth respond. Average hourly earnings for Las Vegas construction workers are up by 8.2 percent over the past year.”

    “Skeptics may worry that Las Vegas falling in love with housing and cas!nos again is a sign that we’re repeating our mistakes. But Las Vegas has always been, and perhaps always be, an economy that booms and busts. If home price and construction growth goes on for too many years, especially if it becomes backed by sketchy loans and too much leverage, then we’ll have reason for worry. But for now, with home prices and construction activity still well below peak levels, the Las Vegas economy may be every cas!no gambler’s dream — the prospect of riches without the immediate risk of being wiped out.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/las-vegas-s-economy-is-on-the-brink-of-a-boom

  121. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The things about Las Vegas and Orlando real estate…it always busts.

  122. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The penny stocks of real estate. Know how to play them.

    “The things about Las Vegas and Orlando real estate…it always busts.”

  123. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    The mass posters of otherwise decent blogs. Know how to play them.

  124. The Great Pumpkin says:

    OK, I admit I have a microp3nis and a v@gina. My Dad couldn’t handle it and just checked out of our family.

  125. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My dad hasn’t been in this country since my first erection. I sent him a photo.

  126. The Great Pumpkin says:

    macro lens

  127. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The penny stocks of real estate. Know how to play them.

    Go ahead and play them then.

  128. Njescapee says:

    Grim, you might find a deal in unincorporated Monroe county anwhere from Sugarloaf up through Big Pine.

  129. Fabius Maximus says:

    Funny on so many levels.

    https://twitter.com/CarolLeonnig/status/948762784321372160
    EXCLUSIVE: Lawyers for @realDonaldTrump sending a cease-and-desist letter to former Sr adviser Steve Bannon tonight, arguing he has violated an NDA with his comments in new Wolff book.

  130. ExJersey says:

    Seems this guy and his pals lie to the faces of elected officials:

    Sen. Cory Gardner of Colorado, who is chairing the National Republican Senatorial Committee during the 2018 cycle, took aim at Sessions over reports of an imminent crackdown on states not complying with federal marijuana laws, a significant departure from past commitments by the administration.

    “This reported action directly contradicts what Attorney General Sessions told me prior to his confirmation,” Gardner wrote on Twitter. “With no prior notice to Congress, the Justice Department has trampled on the will of the voters in CO and other states.”

    “I am prepared to take all steps necessary, including holding DOJ nominees, until the Attorney General lives up to the commitment he made to me prior to his confirmation,” Gardner added in another tweet.

    During his campaign, Trump said in an interview with Colorado media that individual states should decide their own laws regarding recreational use and sale of marijuana, adding that he would not go after Colorado and others upon becoming president.

    “I’m a states person,” he said. “I think it should be up to the states absolutely.”

    The reports of Sessions’ intent to rescind the current policy comes just days after California opened recreational marijuana stores as part of their new law.

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