Idiots in Trenton

From the Star Ledger:

High-cost, high-tax New Jersey is no place for old men – or old women

You might have seen that Fairleigh Dickinson poll released last week in which a sample of New Jersey residents were asked, “Are you considering a move out of New Jersey in order to improve your standard of living?”

The pollsters reported that 44 percent of New Jerseyans said they have considered leaving the state at some point in their lives.

More important, it showed that a third of those approaching retirement age said they were considering moving out within a mere five years.

The deal called for an increase in the gas tax. That is offset by a small reduction in the sales tax as well as elimination of the estate tax.

There was also a change in the way the state taxed retirement income, a change that created that cliff.

Until that deal went through, the state taxed retirement income as regular income. That was an open invitation for retirees to leave the Garden State for greener pastures, such as Pennsylvania, which excludes pension income from its state income tax, or Florida, which has no state income tax at all.

But there was some good news and some bad news in that 2017 deal.

The good news is that the first $100,000 of retirement income is exempt from the tax.

The bad news is that if you earn one penny over $100,000 then your entire pension is taxed from the first dollar.

This so-called “tax cliff” has the perverse effect of discouraging people from earning the income they need to survive in a high-tax state like New Jersey.

It’s possible to find yourself on the hook for $3,000 or so in taxes for a mere dollar in income.

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190 Responses to Idiots in Trenton

  1. dentss dunnigan says:

    First …!

  2. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I have a friend who opted to buy a home in Florida for Retirement. He also owns a home on the lake in the poconos. Between those two properties, he pays less in tax and can enjoy nice weather year round. He’s still in driving distance of anything he would want to visit in NJ.

  3. No One says:

    I can’t picture Murphy signing a bill removing an estate tax for late millionaires, given his redistributionist tendencies.

  4. Juice Box says:

    Rising commercial rents in Newark?

    There was the New Newark. And then the New New Newark. But now, as development ramps up in and around the city’s Ironbound section, one of New Jersey’s largest cities may finally, permanently, escape the need for another rebranding effort.

    Long known for its tidy streets and Portuguese and Brazilian restaurants, the Ironbound district is attracting more retail and office development than ever, sources said. “It’s no longer the best-kept secret in Newark,” said Lenny Lazzarino, vice president of leasing at Edison Properties.

    https://therealdeal.com/2019/12/04/in-and-around-newarks-ironbound-projects-proliferate-and-rents-rise/

  5. The Great Pumpkin says:

    That’s the thing, this really isn’t a retirement state unless you are wealthy. My grams is 89 and somehow retired in this state despite not being wealthy. So it can be done, but it won’t be optimum.

    This state is for earners. It’s tax system supports the professional class/entrepreneurial class. It provides them with extremely safe towns and extremely good public school systems. The towns provide a host of services like garbage pickup and recycling. A bunch of services that make our life easier and better, but we take for granted. We also payoff the poor in this state by sending them crumbs so that the well off never have to deal with them. How many poor kids does a kid from ridgewood come in contact with? This is without the need for gated communities or private school.

    If one is a cheapo, why are you living in nj? Go where there are no services, schools are a joke, no police or fire presence, and you have to burn your garbage. Save a lot of money on taxes, but sure lose out on a quality of life. Nothing like waiting a half hour on a 911 call.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    December 4, 2019 at 8:52 am
    I have a friend who opted to buy a home in Florida for Retirement. He also owns a home on the lake in the poconos. Between those two properties, he pays less in tax and can enjoy nice weather year round. He’s still in driving distance of anything he would want to visit in NJ.

  6. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    You must have never called the police. In New Brunswick, if you called to report trouble, they would take 20 minutes to show up. Meanwhile, anytime an officer ever radioed for backup, 15 cars would come flying through the neighborhood in 30 seconds flat.

    My grandparents owned a restaurant in Teaneck. A lot of cops used to hang out there after hours. They routinely said…any burglary call, they would wait a little bit to give the guys a chance to escape. It’s easier to pick them up on a traffic stop 3 weeks later than catching them in the act.

  7. The Great Pumpkin says:

    If I call the police in my town, they will be there in minutes. My wife’s cousin experienced a fire and emergency services were there within 3 minutes of the call.

    You pay for it, but this is what you get in return.

  8. The Great Pumpkin says:

    There is almost zero inventory of multi family housing in Clifton. Never saw it this bad before. Tells me, it’s about to get expensive if economy continues growing.

  9. Juice Box says:

    Idiot – Fire protection is provided by five volunteer fire companies in Wayne as well as the local volunteer first aid squads.

  10. Libturd, the Master Beta says:

    More “unnamed sources,” saying China trade deal phase 1 is near. What is this? The seventh time Trump has manipulated the market. Of course, you would never know if he is as his income taxes will never be revealed. Hey, it’s not in the Constitution. Neither is breathing. What an unequivocal farce.

  11. Fast Eddie says:

    What an unequivocal farce.

    He has no intention if manipulating the market. The market will react accordingly as it does whenever clouds are followed by sun. He’s telling friend and foe that the party is over. In simple terms, “F.uck you, pay me.” Just as he’s telling our so-called NATO allies to pay their 2% for protection. They don’t like it so they smirk and snicker. To say Trump is manipulating the market is like saying we know how to fix the woes of our favorite sports teams. It’s truck driver, tabloid fodder. We know nothing about what goes on behind the scenes. This president is the first since Reagan to actually get things done. Oblammy was an empty bag, Bush was a yes man, Clinton was a product of calm seas domestically and globally. Trump is ruling with an iron fist, revamping the way things get done and it upsets the establishment here and abroad.

  12. chicagofinance says:

    This fcuking hack needs to be euthanized……
    The unmitigated balls of this bastard…..

    Go to minute 6…..
    “As you look to the possible threats to U.S. nation security, what is at the top of your list?”
    Jeh Johnson (former head of HOMELAND SECURITY under the Obamunist): “…..my top 3 threats to national security are climate change, climate change, climate change……”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2019-12-03/mexico-is-stretched-when-it-comes-to-its-own-security-ex-dhs-chief-says-video

  13. The Great Pumpkin says:

    They take it serious. They are outfitted with all state of the art equipment. Volunteer or not, we pay for it through our taxes. Our fire department is top of the line.

    Say what you want about Wayne taxes, we get a lot for it. They even pruned the trees lined up along my road. Getting trees pruned is expensive. Nice to pay for it together as a community in the name of keeping the community looking tidy and clean. Can’t trust people to do it on their own.

    Juice Box says:
    December 4, 2019 at 11:18 am
    Idiot – Fire protection is provided by five volunteer fire companies in Wayne as well as the local volunteer first aid squads.

  14. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Well said, fast.

  15. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I pay 18,000 in taxes. Even with one kid, I am making out like a bandit. I get all the benefits of a fabulous police force (they are well paid, hence, they really look out for this community) and community services, along with a fabulous education system. How can I beat this for 650,000 and 18,000 a year in taxes? How much would private school cost me for my child? And not some chump private school, a good one.

  16. joyce says:

    You know that’s a bad thing, right?

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 4, 2019 at 12:17 pm

    “… ruling with an iron fist.”

  17. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Not always. Ying and yang. There are positive and negative benefits to any type of leadership or economic system. Right now, we needed an iron fist. Change was not happening otherwise.

    The fact that he has brought China to the table is HUGE. Pun intended. The fact that he has the establishment rabidly attacking him for nonsense says it all. We needed this as a country. Needed someone to start the major change this country needed.

    joyce says:
    December 4, 2019 at 12:41 pm
    You know that’s a bad thing, right?

  18. Fast Eddie says:

    You know that’s a bad thing, right?

    If your leader is Che Guevara, it’s a bad thing. If you’re gender confused, it’s a bad thing. If your name is Adam Schiff, it’s a bad thing. If you’re 98% of the media propaganda machine, it’s a bad thing. Otherwise, it’s not a bad thing.

  19. Juice Box says:

    Our exports to China represent .5 % of our GDP, I would imagine this could double or even triple with a trade deal. Trump and team are playing their cards just right, get the deal and the growth going into the next year, it will pump our growth up above the 2% we are struggling to maintain.

  20. joyce says:

    Murphy is consistent. The idea of not spending money or spending less never crosses his mind.

    “ Gov. Phil Murphy on Wednesday dismissed criticism from some Rutgers University faculty that the $4 million a year Greg Schiano will receive to return as the state school’s football coach — partially funded by taxpayers — is money that could be better used elsewhere. “The problem with that perspective is it implies this either/or. It’s and/both,” Murphy told reporters. Murphy also declined to say how much taxpayer money will go into Schiano’s contract — an eight-year deal worth $32 million that also includes incentives tied to team- and academic-performance. At the same time, Rutgers also owes former head coach Chris Ash about $8.47 million and former offensive coordinator John McNulty about $900,000 after they were fired in September. “

  21. joyce says:

    Oh please, Gary. You’re incapable of being critical of the current president either dismissing things outright or comparing it to other bad behavior. Never learning the lesson that two wrongs don’t make a right.

    If you live in what is supposed to be a representative republican form of government with a system of checks and balances, it is a bad thing.

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 4, 2019 at 1:01 pm
    You know that’s a bad thing, right?

    If your leader is Che Guevara, it’s a bad thing. If you’re gender confused, it’s a bad thing. If your name is Adam Schiff, it’s a bad thing. If you’re 98% of the media propaganda machine, it’s a bad thing. Otherwise, it’s not a bad thing.

  22. Fast Eddie says:

    If you live in what is supposed to be a representative republican form of government with a system of checks and balances, it is a bad thing.

    You know what’s bad? When hearsay and opinion form the grounds for impeachment. Thank God for checks and balances… the Senate will see to that!

  23. chicagofinance says:

    You can’t possibly support “stop and snark” either the concept or how it was/is applied. Um…. oh wait….

    joyce says:
    December 4, 2019 at 1:55 pm
    Oh please, Gary. You’re incapable of being critical of the current president either dismissing things outright or comparing it to other bad behavior. Never learning the lesson that two wrongs don’t make a right.

    If you live in what is supposed to be a representative republican form of government with a system of checks and balances, it is a bad thing.

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 4, 2019 at 1:01 pm
    You know that’s a bad thing, right?

    If your leader is Che Guevara, it’s a bad thing. If you’re gender confused, it’s a bad thing. If your name is Adam Schiff, it’s a bad thing. If you’re 98% of the media propaganda machine, it’s a bad thing. Otherwise, it’s not a bad thing.

  24. joyce says:

    I agree it is bad. In addition to two wrongs not making a right, neither does 3, 4 or 16.

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 4, 2019 at 2:02 pm
    If you live in what is supposed to be a representative republican form of government with a system of checks and balances, it is a bad thing.

    You know what’s bad? When hearsay and opinion form the grounds for impeachment. Thank God for checks and balances… the Senate will see to that!

  25. joyce says:

    Perhaps more euthanasia is warranted.

    chicagofinance says:
    December 4, 2019 at 2:19 pm
    You can’t possibly support “stop and snark” either the concept or how it was/is applied. Um…. oh wait….

  26. Juice Box says:

    It’s getting expensive this election cycle, how many Billions will be spent?

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  27. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Not always. Ying and yang. There are positive and negative benefits to any type of leadership or economic system. Right now, we needed an iron fist. Change was not happening otherwise.

    There are zero benefits to the economic system of the Soviet Union.

    There are zero benefits to the economic system that exists in South Korea.

    The only benefit of the Cuban economic system is a nice collection of old cars from the 50s still running.

  28. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    We don’t need a China trade deal. We can just shut them out and be better off.

  29. ExEssex says:

    9:41 OK Boomer.

  30. Libturd, the Master Beta says:

    I want to know what Trump is getting done.

    And how is holding back aid from a country until they investigate your most likely opponent in the coming election is not an impeachable offense is complete bullsh1t.

    Just because the liar in chief, with absolutely zero evidence to prove otherwise, says it ain’t so, doesn’t mean it ain’t so Gary. Yeah I know. He’s repeated it like one thousand times. This must make it true. Like when you eat something off the floor after citing the 5-second rule.

    And the fact the senate will only play partisan politics in not removing the impeached president is hardly a check and balance, unless of course you have an IQ of around 60.

    Still waiting to hear something evidence backed that the alpha dog has done. So far, it’s been little more than a false narrative repeated umteenth times backed by less than a piss1ng dossier. Which, unlike you, I admitted was a stupid ploy by the Dems. Trump could rape his grandmother and you’d say, she deserved it.

  31. D-FENS says:

    Trump accomplished your mom.

  32. Libturd, the Master Beta says:

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  34. chicagofinance says:

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    Libturd, the Master Beta says:
    December 4, 2019 at 9:58 pm
    Lick my hairy balls D.

  35. No One says:

    Chifi, I accidentally saw Jeh live on tv and was stunned. Some old guys are like recent religious converts who want to proselytize the green agenda. Such a dumb statement, it would be ironic justice for his kids to be terrorized by some Islamists or caught up in a battle with China or Norks. This is the new leftist path to unilateral disarmament. A strong defense and military being thought bad for the environment. North Korea is much less CO2 output than the US after all. I’m waiting for little Greta to sail to China and complain to the fascist state for leading the world in dumps taken. But it won’t happen. Being a rational person in a world of fools can be a blessing and a curse Chifi, as you must understand.

  36. Bystander says:

    D is busy licking burnt Orange balls. Does he use those little white goggles on his nutsack like he does on his goofy raccoon eyes?

  37. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Berkeley released a study showing CO2 emissions have led to greening of the earth. NASA even published it. What it showed was that while emissions output have grown by leaps and bounds…CO2 levels have not grown as fast because of an increase in plant life. I’d love to hear the scientific reasoning of why a 1 degree increase in average temperature over the next 100 years is a detriment rather than a benefit when all the data points to the opposite.

    Greta, Leo, Al…and anyone else that parades around will never field any tough questions or even consider debating the science. And as I have said before, climatology has no business even being classified as a science yet given their complete lack of accomplishments over the past 40 years.

  38. Williamhax says:

    De La Hoya Camp renovation

    Roach gives us an in depth look at how camp is accelerating thus far, And he also informed Fightnews that there is a very real possibility that he will be in San Antonio for Pacquiao’s fight against Solis.

    Oscar will be great, He’s working just about every, Six dthisys each week. We be held at 5:30 each, and now we train from 6PM until 8:30PM at Wilfredo Gomez’s health club membership, a beautiful gym. We started sparring a couple days ago, We got two guys from Philadelphia that we’re impressed with. I am hiring Oscar on strategy, And we will work the mits, And it is all totally good right now.

    what have you learned about Oscar that you didn’t know before you started to work with him?

    Oscar has one of the best work ethic, He trains hard and he tells me that i am the boss, And that makes use of happened. Oscar works difficult, We work on his right hand. [url=https://medium.com/@spanishwomen/travel-to-spain-find-the-spanish-beauty-f06fc1e9f9b0]date in spanish[/url] Oscar has a proper right hand, But he lacks the confidence, So were creating it to get his confidence up.

    Mayweather did a lot of talking, How has that resonated through Oscar?

    It makes winning this fight more enjoyable (laughs). We know it’s mainly a tough fight, We have two real fast sparring partners for your struggle, is 9 0, And they do great. We are watching numerous film of Mayweather, And in fact, I am tired of looking after him (laughs). Oscar has a nutritionist that cooks for him every day. Oscar left the gym a week ago at 156lbs.

    Floyd will use his speed and agility, He’s a smart fighter. Do the this fight as a battle of game plans, without a battle of ability?

    yeah, really. Both mankind has a lot of ability, They would not be where they are at without that. It’s usually who can pull of the game plan. Oscar has tempo also, And he has a short left hand. I think we have a great jab than Mayweather does, And we are going to use it.

    How has De La Hoya been had been given in Puerto Rico?

    incredible, we certainly have a three bedroom condo that we stay in, And Oscar lives about 10 no time away. there isn’t a lot to do during the daytime, there is certainly downtime. I brought a a small number of books, And I study Mayweather film on daily basis. We have a idea, Mayweather is a fantastic fighter, But he makes complications, And we will advantages of that.

    Is Oscar ahead of in the places you want him at thus far in camp?

    He’s a little ahead of track the present, His weight is a great one, And the thing is let us keep doing what were doing. Conditioning is necessary, And we’ll have to be in great shape to keep up with this guy. Mayweather will most likely be in good shape, And small children it. We are looking positive, We started live training, And I am really happy where Oscar is at right now.

    How has the media been down there, will you be cramped at all by them?

    We are doing OK the real key. Oscar has some interview with Spanish speaking media sometimes, I don’t know what they assert though (laughs). We are working very well with the media, And they respect me when I make them aware of to turn cameras off.

    You outlined sparring partners before, Will Shane Mosley be coming down to help out?

    yup, Shane should be here in April. The younger guys that are already here are good as they are hungry. I told these guys that the first to knock De La Hoya down, Gets a $1000 bonus.

    When do you plan on breaking camp, And venturing back to America?

    we have been here for two weeks, beginning our third week. we’ll be back in America seven days before the fight.

    do you think Oscar will stop Mayweather?

    i truly do, I think if he fights the right fight he will get rid of him. I think we have a big advantage in strength, And were working on other things in the ring to work with Mayweather’s speed. Oscar needs to be more physical than usual, And I am a more hostile trainer, So we simply need to be more offensive minded.

    Will you apply the aggressive style to get into Mayweather’s head?

    regarding, But it has to be a smart competitive. It can’t be a dumb potent, I observed Diego Corrales fight, And he just came in potent and took a lot of punches. we will never do that, you will fight smart.

    trying Pacquiao, get you talked to Manny lately?

    it’s true, I talked to Manny yesterday. Manny asked if I could come to San Antonio to work his corner for the Solis fight. I told him that I would talk to Oscar about this tomorrow, I will for sure miss one day if I do, And I told Manny that we do my best to be there. I think Manny carry out fine against Solis. Anybody that decides to trade with Manny doesn’t do very well, So we’ll see luxury crusie ship. Manny was 137lbs so weight will be no worries for him to make, As long as he stays from the distractions. do you know what? It seems Manny creates distractions, And he seems to like them, But he doesn’t seem to get bothered by them in the ring, the equivalent of not yet.

    You mentioned you do talk to Oscar about letting you train Manny in San Antonio, Do you think which is to be any problem?

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  39. Juice Box says:

    We are going to get our show trial folks! I remember the winter of 1999 when the last time we went through the process in the Senate. Nowhere near 2/3 rd majority for conviction and removal in the Senate was even possible back in 1999 either Article of impeachment 45 votes for Article one and 50 votes for article 2.

    Last time around Billy boy skated as 10 republicans crossed the party line and voted not guilty on Article 1, as far as Article 2 five Republicans crossed the line and voted not guilty for Article 2. All Democrats voted not guilty on Article 1 and 5 Democrats crossed the line on Article 2.

    Are we up for a Suprise this time? Night of the Long Knives perhaps?

  40. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Blue,

    This is exactly what I’m talking about. This is what we need. Open minded research making sense of the changing climate in our world. Who cares about taking sides on this position. Just understand it’s changing, and learn the positives and negatives so that we can learn if this is a benefit or negative to our survival.

    We really need to stop the fighting over this issue and come together. There are always two sides to a story, and we would be smart to understand both.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    December 5, 2019 at 9:37 am
    Berkeley released a study showing CO2 emissions have led to greening of the earth. NASA even published it. What it showed was that while emissions output have grown by leaps and bounds…CO2 levels have not grown as fast because of an increase in plant life. I’d love to hear the scientific reasoning of why a 1 degree increase in average temperature over the next 100 years is a detriment rather than a benefit when all the data points to the opposite.

    Greta, Leo, Al…and anyone else that parades around will never field any tough questions or even consider debating the science. And as I have said before, climatology has no business even being classified as a science yet given their complete lack of accomplishments over the past 40 years.

  41. Libturd, the Master Beta says:

    Who is the laughing stock of the world now?

    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-trudeau-two-faced-nato-leaders-video-mocking-him-145111328.html

    Our president has a playground mentality at best. It’s no wonder he is loved by the feeble-minded.

  42. Juice Box says:

    Substance no longer matters in our new unreality, it’s as if TMZ wrote that nonsense about them mocking Trump.

    Trump made them all wait for 15 minutes for a group photo op because of his 40 minute press conference which he went on and on about the other NATO members not living up to their obligations.

    Macron, Trudeau and Prime Minister Boris Johnson all have their own issues at home and Trump told them they need to tow the line in NATO and live up to their obligaitons, he pulled no punches but hey let’s focus on what everyone was wearing during dinner and who gossips like a schoolgirl and reports this like TMZ would.

  43. Fast Eddie says:

    Lib,

    Let’s see Canada and France laugh when they need military assistance. You’re losing your fastball, in case no one told you.

  44. Joe says:

    Bystander,

    You are out of your league intellectually on this blog with tripe like that.

    “ Bystander says:
    December 5, 2019 at 9:30 am
    D is busy licking burnt Orange balls. Does he use those little white goggles on his nutsack like he does on his goofy raccoon eyes?”

  45. Juice Box says:

    67 needed votes in the Senate who will cross the line? Let’s see there are 75 men and 25 women in the Senate today. 45 Democrats, 2 Independents and 53 Republicans.

    To get to 67 the Dems need all 45 +2 independents and 10 Republicans to cross they line.

    Then there is votes needed to pass procedural motions, that takes 51 votes.

    The Clinton Trial began Jan 7th in 1999 and lasted five weeks. I gather the Senate will recess next week and begin the trial next year.

  46. Libturd, the Master Beta says:

    No Republican is going to vote for removing Trump. The question of his guilt and whether his offense is impeachable is inconsequential to them. For if he did it, it was the actions of the deep state and all fake news. And now the moron is running around and asking everyone who opposes him, “Do you love your country?”

    How can you guys not see through this charade?

    It sucks to have to write everything off with the masses are asses excuse. But I really think that’s what it is. This country is in a very dangerous place regarding it’s continued relatively successful existence. The truth no longer matters. Collectively, we are too stupid to question our loyalties and too stubborn to ignore our biases.

    Tomorrow, I have my trial to get my cancer surviving son the education he deserves. It will be expensive to the taxpayers in the short-run, but significantly (around 75%) cheaper in the long run to provide him with an intensive specialized program which will return him to the public school system in two years without the need for private school. Due to the town’s absolute lack of wisdom (and focus on this year’s budget only), they will fight tooth and nail to send him to private school grade’s 1-12 instead, to the detriment of all of the parties involved so that this year’s budget doesn’t take as large of a hit. Kicking the can down the road (and paying the interest on the debt to our Wall Street masters) is the only game our elected officials know.

    Like I said, the masses are asses.

    Wish us luck tomorrow.

  47. 3b says:

    Good luck Lib.

  48. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    You see…even if it is true…everyone is sick of the fake nonsense the 3 years leading up to it so anything in the future is now written off…regardless of the facts. Someone should have told them the story of the boy who cried wolf.

  49. Flyover says:

    Here we go again guys, Libs TDS is sticking out again. What a fall from grace for a once respected commentator on this blog. Trump is totally in his head. He may need the straight jacket soon!

  50. Libturd, the Master Beta says:

    Yup. The narrative says to label everyone who questions Trump mentally disturbed.

    It could be an autistic 13-year old. Your mother-in-law. Heck, even your wife. Either your with us or an enemy. WOLVERINES!

    You notice, I am not in any way praising and frequently condemn the Dems and always the DNC. But if given the choice between the two criminal organizations, I’d pick the one who at least tries to back their bullsh1t up with some facts once in a while and isn’t hellbent on worrying about their ego 24-hours a day.

    Trump is a friggin’ national embarrassment!

    I am waiting for him to request Lincoln be removed from his memorial and replaced with a statue of himself. I really wouldn’t put it past him. I mean, after all. Lincoln did let himself be shot. What a weakling.

  51. Bystander says:

    Joe,

    Sorry to hurt your feelings that you carry a post for months. Point is that people on this blog consistently defend the indefensible with this admin. He has no master plan. He does not rule with iron fist. He is laughed at. The Fed pumps trillions to keep stock bubble going. Economy on the ground lacks business investment even with tax cuts. No wall, no great healthcare…narcissistic rage disorder, all hail.

  52. Libturd, the Master Beta says:

    He is simply a farce. Constant lies with absolutely no accomplishments. He is horrible for our country and even worse for the world. I hope China sucks it up and stops selling us their sh1t completely. This, I would love to see.

  53. Libturd, the Master Beta says:

    Sorry you are so threatened by the truth Flyover that all you can do is call me names instead of even making a feeble attempt at discrediting anything I have posted. It is quite the sign of your higher intelligence that you have chosen to put on display for us. Thank you.

  54. redted says:

    Its easier to understand Trumpkins when you understand that it is basically a cult and there is nothing Trump can do wrong in their eyes. Gary hit on it earlier when he said any authoritarianism coming from Trump is ok, anyone else is not ok. There is no nuance here, they are mindless followers. Anyone who is against Trump is illegitimate in their eyes whether they be liberals or republicans (never-trumpers). Anything that is anti-Trump is fake news. They believe all the dumb conspiracy theories he does and there is nothing that can shake their confidence in him. I’ve seen enough that there is no bar low enough I dont think they would go to in his defense. I would like to just laugh them off for their stupidity but they are dangerously gullible people who honestly can be made to believe anything if it comes from their Leader. In a true national emergency it worries me what these zealots would do.

  55. Joe says:

    Redted,

    Two years with fake news about Russia collusion made people that way.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/Vsf1zWt3z4uQ8G6G7

  56. chicagofinance says:

    Stu: first, I hope for the best outcome under the circumstances tomorrow.

    As for the below, of course Trump is the worst ever in terms of his comportment and lack of Presidential grace. Regardless, I think that much of what we are experiencing is really due to the transformation and adoption of the smartphone, and the way we consume news and information. The fake news etc., is really a function of the existential crisis of the newspaper and traditional news media. Further, the ubiquity of recorded video and sound images removes the finesse of second hand accounts reported by organization with rigor and standards.

    The backdrop of all of this reality is that technology and the adopters tend to skew younger and liberal, and the worst elements of the left have taken advantage of so many younger people’s lack of experience, discretion, appreciation of history, and frankly respect for authority (where the authority is beneficial and justified).

    When you write “The truth no longer matters.” …. it doesn’t entirely ring true, because as a society, we have been lied to repeatedly to fit a narrative. The only difference now is that it stings really badly……

    Libturd, the Master Beta says:
    December 5, 2019 at 11:04 am
    This country is in a very dangerous place regarding it’s continued relatively successful existence. The truth no longer matters.

  57. Libturd, the Master Beta says:

    That was stupid. But really, it pales in comparison to the onslaught of bullsh1t we are fed daily. Even the intelligent ones among us knew it was crap from day one.

    Yesterday I saw a video of Mexican’s climbing over a newly rebuilt section of the wall with a rope ladder. Was going to post it here, but figured it was below me. I need not stoop to that level.

  58. joyce says:

    Joe,

    You are out of your league intellectually on this blog with tripe like that.

    Joe says:
    December 5, 2019 at 12:09 pm

    https://images.app.goo.gl/Vsf1zWt3z4uQ8G6G7

  59. Joe says:

    Joyce,

    I see that you support fake news.

    Have fun with your ignorance.

  60. joyce says:

    Does Trump still believe Obama’s birth certificate was a fake?

  61. Libturd, the Master Beta says:

    Chi,

    I appreciate your take on it as well as your stand on climate change, which I agree with as well. There are lots of hypocrites on the left in this regard. None the less, couth has a role in being an effective leader. Quite frankly, humans judge each other based on their interactions. Trump has shown himself to be a backstabber and two-faced time and time again. His name calling I wouldn’t tolerate from my 14 year old. Nor would I his lying. The biggest shame with him is that he could have been much more effective if he wasn’t such an ignoramus. This whole alpha dog thing is so played out. It’s the fodder of armchair quarterbacks at the corner taverns. It’s Americana, but of the Cold War era. I would like to think that we have progressed a little since then.

    As for the fears being driven by “the glass?” I won’t disagree. But the world is no less safe today than it was when we were kids. I find myself pointing this out over and over again to too many people who don’t understand math. As kids crouched under their desks for an hour last week when someone claimed a kid had a gun in his backpack in the PRM. It reminded me of the old videos of schoolkids hiding under their desks in air raids in WWII. I wonder if a single life was saved? Probably not. I asked my older son what he thought of all of these lockdowns and his school’s protocol and he said it was the dumbest thing ever. He said if he heard a single gun shot, he’d be stacking every desk in the classroom against the door and then diving out the window. The masses really are asses.

  62. Flyover says:

    Lib i’ve already watched you ignore Fast Eddie’s factual and poignant questioning of yours and the DNC’s hypocrisy. They are running wild with Saul Alinsky tactics, accuse your enemy of the crimes you commit etc. Obama did much worse things than trump by executive fiat but you agreed with his slant so it didnt rankle you. but Trump eats his meal with his salad fork and you lose your grip. Get over it. He lies but it doesnt hurt anyone or cost taxpayers nearly as much as the bs the democrats did during obama admin. Dems were looting foreign aid by way of nepotistic grifting operations and thats ok cuz they did it with panache and decorum that was all a result of favorable media propaganda that obviously works on dopes like you essex and joyce

  63. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I asked my older son what he thought of all of these lockdowns and his school’s protocol and he said it was the dumbest thing ever. He said if he heard a single gun shot, he’d be stacking every desk in the classroom against the door and then diving out the window. The masses really are asses.

    Our school has us do drills where we come up with a plan of attack for someone trying to break in. We’ve thought about it in depth. Personally, in my room, we have a ton of 1 kg steel masses. And a bunch of steel support beams. If just one connected with the gunman, it’s over.

    We also have a stock room that kids generally can’t see where we can hide. I’ve also determined that we can climb the shelves in there, remove a ceiling tile, and get up into the building foundation fairly easily. I can hide the whole class.

    In my room upstairs, we’ve figured what window we would jump out (6 ft drop to the lower roof) in order to escape. Stairwell is a bad idea as too many would take it at the same time and kids would be sitting ducks.

    Basically, we’ve come up with plans if we were “trapped”.

    One school had a policy of having a bucket of 30 decorative rocks in each classroom to throw at the intruder and were ridiculed left and right on nj.com. I thought it was a great idea.

  64. joyce says:

    How long have you been reading the comments here?

    Flyover says:
    December 5, 2019 at 1:09 pm0

  65. Juice Box says:

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  66. Juice Box says:

    Jut to point this out again. Google has banned targeting in political ads. So for anyone to get traction this election on Google they have to do it the old fashioned way and spend on key word searches and spend big.

    Bloomberg has not done it yet but all election searches on Google may just end up with his Ad at the top of the page every time on every search.

  67. D-FENS says:

    Beta males jealous and in a snit because he picked their pockets and made them chip in more for NATO defense.

    This makes them look worse than him.

    Libturd, the Master Beta says:
    December 5, 2019 at 9:55 am
    Who is the laughing stock of the world now?

    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-trudeau-two-faced-nato-leaders-video-mocking-him-145111328.html

    Our president has a playground mentality at best. It’s no wonder he is loved by the feeble-minded.

  68. joyce says:

    Other NATO members spending more is a great thing. Definitely a win.
    “The U.S. will pay less. Germany will pay more. So now the U.S. and Germany will pay the same, roughly 16% of NATO’s budget.”

    We shouldn’t be spending more on defense in other areas though; we should be reducing that as well … making Europe pay for it.
    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/IF10946.pdf

  69. joyce says:

    I messed up the italics, the last sentence is not a quote.

  70. ExEssex says:

    11:04 best of luck. Fight like hell.
    Damn the pencil pushers.

  71. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What exactly did Trump do so wrong? What is so horrible about your life since he has become President? If you didn’t follow the news headlines, would you claim your life is worst off than pre-trump? If so, please provide evidence or examples.

    redted says:
    December 5, 2019 at 12:02 pm
    Its easier to understand Trumpkins when you understand that it is basically a cult and there is nothing Trump can do wrong in their eyes. Gary hit on it earlier when he said any authoritarianism coming from Trump is ok, anyone else is not ok. There is no nuance here, they are mindless followers. Anyone who is against Trump is illegitimate in their eyes whether they be liberals or republicans (never-trumpers). Anything that is anti-Trump is fake news. They believe all the dumb conspiracy theories he does and there is nothing that can shake their confidence in him. I’ve seen enough that there is no bar low enough I dont think they would go to in his defense. I would like to just laugh them off for their stupidity but they are dangerously gullible people who honestly can be made to believe anything if it comes from their Leader. In a true national emergency it worries me what these zealots would do.

  72. 3b says:

    Median age of first time home buyer is 47 as per article on MarketWatch. What’s the point?

  73. Joe says:

    If it were up to me I would cut the military budget 20% and instead use it for education and infrastructure projects. We will still be a safe and secure nation even with 80% left in the budget. Screw Europe.

  74. Juice Box says:

    Pelosi plays the Catholic card lol, that ole broad is on her last legs and praying to Jesus this works now.

  75. Fast Eddie says:

    The left is going to get crushed in November. I’m too busy at work to engage but their blinding anger has destroyed a party. And despite Trump’s own antics and the daily blitzkrieg by the media, he’s still getting a lot done. Obama was shielded like the f.ucking pathetic cream puff that he is by the media. You want to talk about hypocrisy? What the left is doing is a useless, worthless, wretched, meager, lame, weak and emasculating. Please God, start a civil war so I can cap some misfits!

  76. Essex says:

    2:31 let’s wait and see. Your man could literally die in office before this election.
    He’s one blood clot away from eternity.

  77. ExEssex says:

    Meanwhile, Rand Paul everyone –

    Excited to announce my plan to help alleviate student loan debt! The HELPER Act would allow individuals to use money from their 401(k) or IRA to pay for college or to pay back student loan debt. Watch the video to learn more!

  78. Juice Box says:

    Bernie, Warren and Joe, heck Bloomberg may all stroke out before next November too.

    Who is the backup plan?

  79. FlyFLyOver says:

    Flyover, is interesting that you mentioned “They are running wild with Saul Alinsky tactics”. The other night while channel surfing caught “A wolf in sheep clothing” a very conservative “Opus Deis” type propagandamentary in the EWTN – Catholic TV.

    Hilarious, meant for 70 IQ True Believers. Blamed the guy for all social issues. But no where did they ever talk about being a bunch of degenerate crooked evil deviant perverts that they are. After their 5 minutes of gobledegook, I could not think that the reason for opposing abortion is simply that you need orphanages for moral mission, to raise money, and where are you going to be able to get the boys to abuse without a scandal.

  80. D-FENS says:

    Biden gets the nomination, picks Kamala as his VP…leaves for health issues and Kamala is the candidate.

    Juice Box says:
    December 5, 2019 at 2:36 pm
    Bernie, Warren and Joe, heck Bloomberg may all stroke out before next November too.

    Who is the backup plan?

  81. ExExEsseexed says:

    ExEssex,

    You are loosing your cynical edge, the longer you are away from NJ. The beauty of the Rand Paul bill is that it will take away bankruptcy protection of 401k & IRAs.

    That means the bankster and financial predators can go in for the kill of the last accounts they have no access to.

  82. Juice Box says:

    D-FENS – That could get dicey like 2o16, to clean it up this time they changed the rules for the convention.

    The Dem convention this year is 221 days away, allot can happen, could they even change the delegate rules again in time? Roughly two-thirds of the pledged delegates will have been allocated by the end of March according to the primary calendar that is only 117 days from now. Two months from now two of them may need to drop out or croak to leave the remaining two to fight it out at the convention.

  83. Phoenix says:

    Good luck tomorrow morning Lib.

  84. TWFTPrepeatit says:

    Lib,

    Best of luck to you. Hope it goes well.

    Yes, the masses are asses. You have not seen this exact play before, but you have likely heard about it from other members of your family. I know I have. People have no idea what is coming and if you tried to explain, it would go over their heads. Set aside the words, the behavior is a tip off. Don’t waste your breath. We are as a nation, not woke yet. We will be shortly and I fear it greatly. There is the universe of things we know, the universe of things we know we don’t know and then the biggie, the things we don’t know that we don’t know.

    The economy, perhaps it’s a black swan (always a risk with varying probabilities), or bond market contagion but it’s going to show up much quicker and stronger than anticipated.

    Think about who is financing the road used to truck soybeans to a shipping port in the amazon rain forest. Same person financing the port. Big political contributor. Can’t tell which soybeans grown on legal land vs land illegally cleared. Got to ship those soybeans so you need a dry bulk shipper. Foremost Group ring a bell. Its a dry bulk transportation company…. As always, follow the money.

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  85. Libturd, knows you can't spell nice without ICE says:

    Thanks Phoenix.

    Forget soc1alizing healthcare. Socialize law. I’m approaching the 200K out of pocket mark since the D got sick, not factoring lost income to Gator having to quit her job to take care of D during the dicey year. It’s a hell of a system we have hear. If I wasn’t so frugal and a heck of a saver, I’d be on SSD by now and collecting food stamps. You should all thank me!

    Lib i’ve already watched you ignore Fast Eddie’s factual and poignant questioning of yours and the DNC’s hypocrisy.

    (factual? When? When he mentions Chicago every single time there is a mass shooting in this country?) I think once I blundered and said the jobs were probably in the public sector when they weren’t. Speaking of hypocrisy and I’m not defending President Nigger (so you can relate) in any way. But every single time the job numbers came out the last eight years, Gary said Obama cooked the books. Of course, the books are fine when they are written by Trump.

    They are running wild with Saul Alinsky tactics, accuse your enemy of the crimes you commit etc. (Give me one)

    Obama did much worse things than trump by executive fiat but you agreed with his slant so it didnt rankle you. No I didn’t. I thought Obama was a pretty mediocre leader who wasted his mandate for the much part. I sh1t on his porkulous as much as you would have. And if you are talking Executive Fiat over the ACA mandate? Well, how much is it costing you now? My BCBS doesn’t even cover mental health and my rates have skyrocketed. I bet you also think you should be able to drive without auto insurance too. And speaking of executive fiat? A day doesn’t go by where Trump doesn’t break every rule (and practice) as well. From the wall, to his income taxes, to his ignoring subpeonas. Trump works harder to be non-transparent than he does to lead. And his disciples? PASS! PASS! PASS!

    but Trump eats his meal with his salad fork and you lose your grip. Get over it. Dude has never eaten a salad in his life.

    He lies but it doesnt hurt anyone or cost taxpayers nearly as much as the bs the democrats did during obama admin. Like what? Sylondra? Trump is spending like there is NO TOMORROW and he was left with an economy in great shape. Blow it out your piehole, because to say otherwise is another giant lie. Pass! Pass! Pass!

    Dems were looting foreign aid by way of nepotistic grifting operations and thats ok cuz they did it with panache and decorum that was all a result of favorable media propaganda that obviously works on dopes like you essex and joyce

    Not it doesn’t. I would actually give Trump a little credit for his anti-grifting stance if every single international get together wasn’t at one of his own resorts. But you wouldn’t know that as he hides his business dealings. And speaking of grift? His entire cabinet is like a family reunion. Pass! Pass! Pass!

    Now who is the deranged one Flyover. I know why you have such love for this guy. He lies as much as you do!

  86. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    So…what’s the opinion on Trump fighting for transparency in health care service pricing?

  87. Libturd, knows you can't spell nice without ICE says:

    I’ll believe it when I see it. The problem with Trump is that he flat out lies. Think about it. How can you trust anyone who made up that China called him on a Friday when on Monday, they made it clear that they didn’t. All politician’s lie. None made a career out of it. Dude has been lying since before his AC casin0’s went belly up. How the masses still stand by him is incredibly troubling. When he loses in 2020, it will be fun watching him come up with a million excuses as to how the election was rigged.

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  89. D-FENS says:

    Deblasio shipping homeless to Newark and cities in North Carolina. Cities are now suing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=17&v=9rj_tOgrmfE&feature=emb_title

  90. 1987 Condo says:

    Jobs + 266,000

  91. 1987 Condo says:

    Upward revisions to September and October (+28k, +13k)

  92. Fast Eddie says:

    The Trump economy is on fire and the dems don’t have an answer. What a glorious time! I haven’t seen such enthusiasm since the Reagan years. The world envies and fears us again!!

  93. 3b says:

    Lib I believe Trump will be re-elected in 2020. And than it’s anyones guess what he does.

  94. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    Nj has probably been quiet on the NY shipping of welfare folks to other locales because they do it to. Probably not on the same scale but it happens all the time.

    But it’s a dirty little secret in the welfare industrial complex… some of the recipient locales are eager to take them because it boosts the stipends and handouts they get from the feds.

    Of course it completely fractures the communities they move these institutionalized people into. The whole system is sickening.

  95. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    Lots of triggered folks in here continue to take the bait.

    Why anyone in their right mind would continue to follow the storyline being fabricated by the fake news industry, or trumps trolling for that matter, is beyond me. Perhaps a deep rooted imbalance.

    There are of course real issues, and real policy matters that are going unattended but the progressive faction has captured the dnc platform entirely so we’re stuck listening to whining about their butt hurt sensibilities all day.

  96. Libturd says:

    3b.

    If it’s Biden, you are right. Still, remember all the yahoos that weren’t counted in the polls in 2016. Don’t ignore how powerful the hatred of Trump is on the left. No one is staying home this time. Is Trump more popular now than he was during the last election? I don’t think so. It we’ll see.

  97. grim says:

    You could argue much of the poverty in Atlantic City was directly exported from Philadelphia.

    Grayhound Therapy – One Way Ticket

  98. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    The polls are fake. You can tweak the questions or polpulation in a way to get the desired result. Just like the impeachment polls.

    But wow did That guy trigger Biden yesterday. I can do more pushups than you, lol. Would love to see him stare down trump.

  99. Juice Box says:

    What if your home was a guaranteed source of negative equity?

    Interesting story on Housing in Japan.

    https://www.rethinktokyo.com/2018/06/06/depreciate-limited-life-span-japanese-home/1527843245

  100. ExEssex says:

    8:41 you’re nuts.

  101. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I called this labor market and economy long ago. If the damn media didn’t try to make it look like the economy blows (they won’t support trump for sh!t), no one would even be doubting me about the “roaring 20’s 2.0.” If a likable democrat was in presidency right now, based on the current economy, he would be the greatest president ever.

    Tell you what though, all this negativity and brainwashing creating this sense that it’s not really a good economy has probably helped this economic run in the long term. NO WAY WE ARE GOING TO OVERHEAT THIS ECONOMY WITH ALL THIS PESSIMISM. Have to thank Trump for that too. The hate for him has prevented any chance of this economy overheating.

    Go figure. Greatest economy of our lifetime, and not one damn person realizes it. And it’s all because of the hate for trump. Amazing.

    1987 Condo says:
    December 6, 2019 at 8:31 am
    Jobs + 266,000

  102. Fast Eddie says:

    Nancy is praying for Trump. As a Catholic, I hope she’s praying for all the aborted babies her side endorses.

  103. Juice Box says:

    Grim re: Atlantic City

    Goes back further the Great Migration….1916 thru 1970….. six million black Southerners relocated to urban areas in the North….40 % of the black population in the south.

  104. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bingo. Nj has been a dumping ground for a long time. We should be reimbursed by the federal government for all these costs put on our state’s taxpayers. Go dump these poor in Alabama where they will fit right in and not raise the costs for taking care of them. Dumping them in high cost states is idiocracy from a cost basis. Why would you dump them in the most expensive areas? Dump them in low cost areas where it will be much cheaper to take care of them. Hell, set up giant project buildings and make a town for the homeless in middle america. Send all the homeless there. Beautiful way to reduce costs long term. These people should not get to live in high cost areas on other people’s dime.

    grim says:
    December 6, 2019 at 9:39 am
    You could argue much of the poverty in Atlantic City was directly exported from Philadelphia.

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  105. Juice Box says:

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  106. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Send the bill to the low cost south. They are responsible for the lack of education and skills in this demographic group. Why should we be held responsible for the cost of fixing this mess? Send them the bill for trying to fix this mess by lowering the cost of our taxes on their back.

    Juice Box says:
    December 6, 2019 at 9:50 am
    Grim re: Atlantic City

    Goes back further the Great Migration….1916 thru 1970….. six million black Southerners relocated to urban areas in the North….40 % of the black population in the south.

  107. Juice Box says:

    So why do adults from the age of 18 and 49 who are childless and are not disabled need food stamps?

    Just trying to understand. I was once age 18 and childless and was not disabled. I worked three jobs nearly a 100 hours a week at times to have things like food, clothing and shelter…

    Just wondering…..

  108. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    Bllomberd is a five foot nothing fun grabbing nanny stater. The man doesn’t believe in freedom or the constitution which is perfect for the new authoritarian left but they hate him too beachside he’s rich. . He’s going nowhere.

  109. ExEssex says:

    9:48 you’re nuts.

  110. Fast Eddie says:

    Essex,

    Have you found a job yet?

  111. Juice Box says:

    re: “He’s going nowhere”

    You are not seeing see the forest for the trees. It’s about money and he has more than any man who ever ran for president. Hillary spent somewhere around 700 million of other people’s money in 2016 and lost. Bloomberg could easily double that and not even feel like his wallet is lighter.

    Next 116 days 2/3rds of the delegates will be confirmed for the July Convention.

    My bet Bloomberg will be there.

  112. Juice Box says:

    I am going to do a little research this weekend. I suspect Bloomberg is going to try and corner the Millennial vote for Super Tuesday using technology. He has already spent $100 million on digital ads.

    https://slate.com/technology/2019/12/bloombergs-ads-are-flooding-the-internet.html

  113. Juice Box says:

    Bloomberg is even buying ads in kids games channels….

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  114. Juice Box says:

    You can see why Page and Brin setup Pichai as chief of everything, they don’t want to take the blame for this election….

    https://www.theverge.com/interface/2019/12/5/20995520/alphabet-obsolete-sundar-pichai-ceo-page-brin

  115. ExEssex says:

    10:10 have you found your brain?

  116. Juice Box says:

    Your odds of getting murdered in an Uber are one in 144 million rides…

  117. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    JB, he can try to corrupt the dnc primary the way Hillary did but the radicals are on to that. Otherwise he has no chance in the primary. If he figures out a way through that wicket then I’ll start paying attention.

  118. Against The Grain says:

    “So why do adults from the age of 18 and 49 who are childless and are not disabled need food stamps?”

    Some of them are lower ranking military members with large families and many are also single parents. Been that way for at least 40 years. And no, they can’t get a second job delivering pizzas when their duty hours change frequently and they’re subject to deployment on short notice.

  119. Juice Box says:

    Grain according to the press that is not true. Childless adults no children are affected, people in the military are not affected.

    The people that are affected are those on a waiver right now a waiver of the work requirement which is only 20 hours a week. They aren’t even doing that 2o hours.

  120. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    Europe is an obsolete dysfunctional mess. They can no longer govern themselves let alone globally. They are broken.

  121. ExEssex says:

    10:59 …the US ain’t exactly completely functional if you haven’t noticed.
    I suspect that your HillBilly credentials are internet fake. But as a real Hillbilly I can tell you that flyover country saw the coasts thriving and voted in a reactionary way and against Hillary who was/is universally unlikeable. Bloomberg will win this one.

  122. Ex@aol.com says:

    Bloomberg will buy this mofo. Watch.
    The others know it. This is the world we are in.
    Billionaires are in control.

  123. ExEssex says:

    Epstein didn’t kill himself.

  124. ExEssex says:

    Bloomberg on CBS right now .
    He’s a stud. Fuuuuuucking Stud.

  125. ExEssex says:

    Articulate. Reasonable. Logical.
    He’s a social liberal fiscal moderate.
    Boooooom. Hello Penn & OH.

  126. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    Esx, you missed the point in Europe. I just don’t care what they think. Why would I except he fake news told me to?

    As for bloom. He has to buy the primary. He has the money, so ok fine. But it’s going to spur a third candidate. It will be messy.

    And I’m legit. Grew up 1750 ft above sea level. I know how Bloomberg will apppeal to the Midwest and it’s not well.

  127. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Well at least one media talking head is finally getting it. Unfortunately, you get paid how much and I made this call back in 2012/13. A reflection of how good some nj teachers are.

    “Cramer: Like or hate Trump, ‘these are the best numbers of our lives’ on jobs

    CNBC’s Jim Cramer says no matter your view on President Trump there’s no denying we’re living in the best labor market in more than a generation.
    “This is the best number I’ve ever seen in my life,” says Cramer, 64.
    Zeroing in on the 3.5% unemployment rate in November, Cramer says, “Fifty years ago, that number was a curse. Now it’s a blessing.””

    https://apple.news/ASTt_FSgxSyup-fUWr2b2Ig

  128. No One says:

    Trump’s biggest advantages as politician:
    1) He wasn’t Hillary Clinton
    2) He isn’t smarter than the average voter and is willing to absorb their prejudices
    3) He talks and lies with reckless abandon, and has no sense of shame

    From the short term perspective, I liked that Hillary wasn’t president. Long term I think he may have finished destroying whatever positive intellectual foundations the Republican party had, long term very bad because the Repubs will be competing with hard leftists for the next decades with their brains tied behind their backs.

  129. The Great Pumpkin says:

    How long have I said this? Of course, get no respect.

    “”People don’t want to say good things” about the economy, said Cramer, echoing comments he made Thursday evening on “Mad Money,” telling investors: “Don’t let the armageddonists and the negativists and the hucksters scare you away from owning stocks.”
    Referring to Trump, Cramer said Friday on “Squawk Box,” shortly after the jobs report was released, “It doesn’t matter whether you hate him or like him, these are real numbers.”
    “This is the best number I’ve ever seen in my life,” Cramer said, zeroing in on the unemployment rate. “Fifty years ago, that number was a curse. Now it’s a blessing.” He added, “I don’t see inflation. I don’t see recession.””

  130. 3b says:

    Not defending Trump but are Johnson, Macron, and Trudeau statesmen? Johnson is a fool, and Brexit will destroy Britain. Macron married his Mother, and France apart from its beauty is a mess. And can anyone take Trudeau seriously? And he is the PM of Canada, like anyone cares what the Canadians think.

  131. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Trudeau is busy strangling all his domestic industries according to Kevin O’leary. Meanwhile, Kevin O’leary also says, despite the political circus, the amount of regulations that have been eliminated here have freed up all the small businesses that he invests in. Anectdotal…but I don’t doubt it given the guy only cares about money. He even said that he believes it has nothing to do with tax policy and everything to do with rollback of various regulations.

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  133. Bystander says:

    It’s a great job market for a non-high school graduate in Texarkana, getting $15 hr working for someone’s culinary food truck or the Piggly Wiggly. Unfortunately nearly all of us are living in an NYC area where job market for white collar professionals stinks for all but a few niche postions and industries. With prepared food tax in grocery pricing and basic restaurant pricing reaching insanity levels, it confirms that Trump’s economy (ala Fed pumping every channel with cheap cash) is lowest sector, the working poor. Article from Hartford Courant spells it out.

    “Connecticut continues to bleed high-salary jobs, regaining just 16% of those lost in the recession, the Lamont administration told the General Assembly Thursday.

    As of September 2019, Connecticut has recovered 88.2% of jobs lost during the recession, which began in December 2007 and ended in June 2009. However, employment growth since the recession “has been skewed toward lower-wage industries,” the state Office of Policy and Management said in its “Fiscal Accountability Report.”

  134. Juice Box says:

    School Girl chatter from the Beta Boys is all the news cares about. Trump was the center of everything at the NATO meetings and they bitched when he made them wait and later stood them up.

  135. chicagofinance says:

    Anyone yowling about taxes as an excuse why the economy is good fails to have a nuanced view of the economy. The reason The Orange One has spurred things is that small businesses (which is the backbone of everything) and small business owners have felt greater confidence to go out and invest in their businesses. Specious analysis by the MSNBC crowd and the politicians they love yak on about publicly traded companies not investing, and instead paying executives and shareholders, but there has been a PALPABLE change in business environment since the tanning bed was installed in the White House. Anyone who states otherwise is losing the substance because they don’t like the form. Any weakness you see out there is due to the fact that the entire world ex-U.S. is fuct…..it impacts us, but at the end of the day it is really their problem not ours.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    December 6, 2019 at 12:01 pm
    …but I don’t doubt it given the guy only cares about money. He even said that he believes it has nothing to do with tax policy and everything to do with rollback of various regulations.

  136. Juice Box says:

    Biden Warren, Sanders are spinning their wheels and getting zero traction. Not even the free stuff they are pitching to voters in swing states sounds so good when the economy is white lightning for jobs and wage increases.

    The swing state working class voters outside Detroit and Pittsburgh will vote for him again The suburban moms outside Milwaukee and Philly will vote for him again. The hick voters in Florida, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin will vote for him again. The Hispanic and black voters in South Florida will vote for him again.

    And if he gets a China deal and USMCA ? You might as well stay home on election day because he could win New Jersey this time.

  137. chicagofinance says:

    Because they are sitting beneath the Macys Christmas window displays on 34th Street begging for money with a dog, and sign with a random tale of woe, and in desperate need of WiFi.

    Juice Box says:
    December 6, 2019 at 9:59 am
    So why do adults from the age of 18 and 49 who are childless and are not disabled need food stamps?

    Just trying to understand. I was once age 18 and childless and was not disabled. I worked three jobs nearly a 100 hours a week at times to have things like food, clothing and shelter…

    Just wondering…..

  138. chicagofinance says:

    That is actually an incredibly important point. Is she pro-choice? I don’t care about the issue, I care about hypocrisy……

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 6, 2019 at 9:48 am
    Nancy is praying for Trump. As a Catholic, I hope she’s praying for all the aborted babies her side endorses.

  139. chicagofinance says:

    Of course Warren and Sanders deride him. They are doomed…… he is their nomination existential threat.

    ExEssex says:
    December 6, 2019 at 11:06 am
    Bloomberg on CBS right now .
    He’s a stud. Fuuuuuucking Stud.

    ExEssex says:
    December 6, 2019 at 11:08 am
    Articulate. Reasonable. Logical.
    He’s a social liberal fiscal moderate.
    Boooooom. Hello Penn & OH.

  140. chicagofinance says:

    The day Trump attacks Bloomberg, is the day that Sanders, Warren and Biden should just bow out and stop wasting everyone’s time.

  141. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s about demographic groups and the stages they are in their life. It’s about their spending habits at a given stage of their life. It’s also about the business cycle and understanding what part of the cycle we are in (the key was to know that the fed fix changed the business cycle). It’s about understanding that we hit rock bottom in the economy and it would take time to come out of it based on the “fix” by the fed. They started flooding the economy with low interest rates. What do you think the long term trend would be? It’s rocket fuel! Just wasn’t going to happen right away. It was going to take time..impact the end of this current decade and then the beginning of the next (will be strong through at least 2025 at the minimum).

    This is how I made probably one of the greatest economic calls ever right here on this blog.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    December 6, 2019 at 12:01 pm
    Trudeau is busy strangling all his domestic industries according to Kevin O’leary. Meanwhile, Kevin O’leary also says, despite the political circus, the amount of regulations that have been eliminated here have freed up all the small businesses that he invests in. Anectdotal…but I don’t doubt it given the guy only cares about money. He even said that he believes it has nothing to do with tax policy and everything to do with rollback of various regulations.

  142. chicagofinance says:

    Pensacola shooter identified as Saudi national in US for aviation training

  143. Fast Eddie says:

    Trump vs. Bloomberg – two rich, white guys. A snowflake’s nightmare.

  144. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Trump helped, but I can’t give him all the credit. How in the world did I make this call before Trump as a president was even believable? It’s based on what I stated above. A perfect storm of factors coming together at the exact right time.

  145. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Doesn’t get any better than this! Win either way…

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 6, 2019 at 1:14 pm
    Trump vs. Bloomberg – two rich, white guys. A snowflake’s nightmare.

  146. chicagofinance says:

    Sunday NFL…. we get SF-NO in the early game and KC-NE in the late game…. not bad.

  147. PatrioticHillbilly says:

    I think people underestimate how much Bloomberg’s is hated on the left. 3 terms of Bloomberg brought NY this shltbag. He’s jumping in lates because he can’t win the nomination fairly.

  148. Libturd says:

    Results of our trial this morning. They are using every delay tactic available to try to bankrupt us. What they don’t realize is that you can’t bankrupt Captain Cheapo. May have to sell the multi in the near future, which blows, since I am finally paying nearly all principal on the mortgage. Fukc me and this state and country! On the bright side, no more Mr. Nice Guy. We have this case won as their insurance lawyer and the entire defense team (Glen Ridge Education leaders) appears to have graduated from Gump University. All they can do is delay and pray. We will now go for compensatory damages as well, which we weren’t originally planning to. The selfishness and complete disregard for my son’s well-being is on full display. Fukc the GR BOE and the town taxpayer. I’m gonna POWN this town!

  149. Juice Box says:

    Look we got a 77 year old bully challenging an 83-year to a push up completion, another who says their 1/1200 DNA test is strong evidence and that makes her a minority candidate, another candidate who well frankly lays down with men, then there is the old crazy hairdo one who screaming about how cable TV is too damm expensive.

    Compared to them Bloomberg is the only choice if they are to have any chance.

  150. Libturd says:

    You might be right Juice. And if he gets in, it will more of the same old. Just another rich guy looking after the other rich guys. Only the rest of us will not be able to enjoy a Pepsi.

    The fact he overturned term limits was very telling to me. People seem to forgot how monstrously bad his third-term was. But rich guys get to do (exploit) whatever they want.

  151. Fast Eddie says:

    On Nov. 3, 2020, as voters head to the polls, they will be facing the lowest election day unemployment rate since Dwight Eisenhower won his first term as president in 1952.

    Any questions?

  152. chicagofinance says:

    I heard this one….. people want to parse it in a cynical way, but working beats the sh!t out of not working….assuming you want to work that is….

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 6, 2019 at 2:34 pm
    On Nov. 3, 2020, as voters head to the polls, they will be facing the lowest election day unemployment rate since Dwight Eisenhower won his first term as president in 1952.

    Any questions?

  153. chicagofinance says:

    regret reading this….

    Libturd says:
    December 6, 2019 at 1:56 pm
    Results of our trial this morning. They are using every delay tactic available to try to bankrupt us. What they don’t realize is that you can’t bankrupt Captain Cheapo. May have to sell the multi in the near future, which blows, since I am finally paying nearly all principal on the mortgage. Fukc me and this state and country! On the bright side, no more Mr. Nice Guy. We have this case won as their insurance lawyer and the entire defense team (Glen Ridge Education leaders) appears to have graduated from Gump University. All they can do is delay and pray. We will now go for compensatory damages as well, which we weren’t originally planning to. The selfishness and complete disregard for my son’s well-being is on full display. Fukc the GR BOE and the town taxpayer. I’m gonna POWN this town!

  154. D-FENS says:

    Bloomberg is running because of his favorite issue…Gun Control. He bankrolls the largest gun control lobbies including “Everytown for gun safety”, “Mom’s demand Action”, and “Mayors Against Illegal Guns”.

    Mitch McConnell has turned the US Senate into a conservative judge approval factory. Even if there is a democratic president in 2024 and full democratic legislature the judicial branch will swat down every unconstitutional gun law they pass.

    This is a threat to these organizations if Trump gets another 4 years of judicial appointments.

  155. D-FENS says:

    I would vote for Bernie Sanders if he promised free guns for everyone.

  156. Bystander says:

    Lib,

    Sorry to hear. On Bloomberg, just imagine a Jew lighting menorah at White House. Red hats morons with confed tattoos will lose their sh&t.

  157. Libturd, knows you can't spell nice without ICE says:

    I’ll let him know of your suggestion D.

  158. Bystander says:

    Ed,

    You really think there is major impact between 4 percent or 3.6 unemployment? It has been full employment since Obama. Thousands of boomers dropping out daily. Fake numbers before but real numbers now..sure.

  159. chicagofinance says:

    It is incredible that RBG is still on the SCOTUS….. I will be laughing if she meets her maker…..

    D-FENS says:
    December 6, 2019 at 2:48 pm
    Mitch McConnell has turned the US Senate into a conservative judge approval factory. Even if there is a democratic president in 2024 and full democratic legislature the judicial branch will swat down every unconstitutional gun law they pass.

    This is a threat to these organizations if Trump gets another 4 years of judicial appointments.

  160. ExEssex says:

    1 in 10 men in prime earning years leaving
    Job market. True story.

  161. chicagofinance says:

    I thought places such as this would be significantly underwater by 2030….. oh maybe that was his Head of Homeland Security…..

    “The long and winding driveway, sprawling lawn and incredible water views make for the perfect family compound setting for generations to come,”
    https://nypost.com/2019/12/06/obamas-buy-11-75m-marthas-vineyard-estate-from-celtics-owner-wycliffe-grousbeck/

  162. The Great Pumpkin says:

    First, Conn prob was hit the hardest by this change in our economy over the last 15 years. Just because they saw a drop doesn’t mean it applies at a national level.

    Second, 15 an hour is huge for lower income demographic group in terms of impact on the economy. Why the hell are you discounting this as nothing? Do you think everyone is in high paying jobs? High paying jobs are in the minority, not majority. So get this, the majority of the population has seen huge wage increases over the past 5 years. I’m sorry you and lib were left out of it.

    The data doesn’t lie. There is real wage growth occurring and it’s the healthy type…not the out of control increases that lead to a bust in the regression to the mean.

    Bystander says:
    December 6, 2019 at 12:41 pm
    It’s a great job market for a non-high school graduate in Texarkana, getting $15 hr working for someone’s culinary food truck or the Piggly Wiggly. Unfortunately nearly all of us are living in an NYC area where job market for white collar professionals stinks for all but a few niche postions and industries. With prepared food tax in grocery pricing and basic restaurant pricing reaching insanity levels, it confirms that Trump’s economy (ala Fed pumping every channel with cheap cash) is lowest sector, the working poor. Article from Hartford Courant spells it out.

    “Connecticut continues to bleed high-salary jobs, regaining just 16% of those lost in the recession, the Lamont administration told the General Assembly Thursday.

    As of September 2019, Connecticut has recovered 88.2% of jobs lost during the recession, which began in December 2007 and ended in June 2009. However, employment growth since the recession “has been skewed toward lower-wage industries,” the state Office of Policy and Management said in its “Fiscal Accountability Report.”

  163. Juice Box says:

    ExEssex it coincides with the percentage of women entering the workforce and other trends over the last 50 years.

    It’s broken down like this.

    47 % disabled (loads claimed it during last recession and never went back to work)
    16% in school
    13% Mr. Mom
    9% Early retirement
    6% Other
    and 9% want to work but cannot find work.

  164. 3b says:

    Chgo Nice I guess climate change and reducing ones foot print is something only the masses should focus on.

  165. ExEssex says:

    1:48 he’s jumping in late because he realizes he might have a chance.
    At least he’s in, the little fella. Now the Orange imbecile can truly challenged
    By someone with a real back-story and not another “public servant” .

  166. Juice Box says:

    And those men of working age claiming the disability the SSDI beneficiaries tend to live in small rural towns. 50 years old with no education and no transferable skills will get you a SSDI check.

  167. Juice Box says:

    Rubio must be happy that Bloomberg took over the “Little” nickname.

  168. Libturd, knows you can't spell nice without ICE says:

    Essex,

    Forgot about Triumph. That’s a lot of sound from three guys. Loved the Blues jersey too.

    My first concert was during that era. Saw Motley Crue, Maiden and Wasted.

  169. Juice Box says:

    Night of the long knives?

    Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., says he has spoken to a Republican colleague in the Senate who is considering voting for impeachment.

  170. Bystander says:

    Dufus,

    Actually NJ had a worse business growth rating than CT, dummy. Wayne will suck @$$ for years. Your taxes are absolutely joke worthy, actually cry worthy but you are not smart enough to see it . I pay half in CT. Get over yourself.

    It is fly by night restaurants and niche online retail, pumped by Fed cash that is providing small businesses job boost. Big f-in deal. These will not be stable jobs that provide anything for working poor. It is a mirage. I see large business strategy and global banking level and it is chaos..firings all the time. No rehiring wither.

  171. 3b says:

    Juice I don’t see any Republican voting yes. But we will see

  172. D-FENS says:

    Oof

    Booker ‘taken aback’ after Bloomberg calls him ‘very well spoken’

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/booker-criticizes-bloomberg-for-describing-him-as-very-well-spoken

  173. Libturd says:

    What did you want him to call him? A high yella?

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  175. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Believe what you want to believe.

    Last chance to get into Wayne at a great value. It has been developing like crazy. So much new business. So many homes being bought and renovated. In the next 10 years, I expect Wayne to see some of the best growth in appreciation in the state.

    Btw, don’t compare conn to nj when it comes to business or economy. It’s not even in the same league as jersey. Our economy is huge, and why would you expect such large growth in this big of a state economy?

    Bystander says:
    December 6, 2019 at 4:37 pm
    Dufus,

    Actually NJ had a worse business growth rating than CT, dummy. Wayne will suck @$$ for years. Your taxes are absolutely joke worthy, actually cry worthy but you are not smart enough to see it . I pay half in CT. Get over yourself.

    It is fly by night restaurants and niche online retail, pumped by Fed cash that is providing small businesses job boost. Big f-in deal. These will not be stable jobs that provide anything for working poor. It is a mirage. I see large business strategy and global banking level and it is chaos..firings all the time. No rehiring wither.

  176. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Looks like Amazon tried to call nyc’s bluff. Failed. They are now going through with their plan after abandoning it for two years. They know you can’t escape the nyc economy, you have to have a presence in the nyc economy. It’s not an option.

  177. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Seriously, open your eyes dude!! Mirage?! Have you taken a look at the nyc skyline? Keep telling yourself it’s a mirage.

    “It is a mirage.”

  178. The Great Pumpkin says:

    That skyline looks nothing like it did for decades. The past 5 years, it has changed more than it has in my entire life..and I grew up looking at that skyline.

  179. Bystander says:

    You must have graduated from Dumpy University, schools of factless bragging. AMZ is taking warehouse space and 1500 jobs. It is nothing even close to 25k jobs of HQ2.

  180. Friday M4A except Boomers says:

    From Naked Capitalism, why Medicare for All is needed, and why you got political machines in NJ towns, a reason is they are very good at taking residents to appointments and provide “Meals on Wheels”.

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2019/12/why-hospitals-never-have-enough-nurses-the-explanatory-power-of-prasads-law-of-wealth-concentration.html

    Prasad has a theory about which actions that would improve patient health will get paid for by the “system” and why.He states, in the Welch discussion:

    There are interventions that disperse wealth, … and they give people jobs, and they send them out in the community; and there are implantable drugs, implantable devices, there are drugs, there are cancer screening tests, and we will always prioritize interventions that consolidate money in the hands of the few, over interventions that disperse money to the hands of many, with the same levels of evidence.

    And, in the Dusetzina discussion:

    Because we would rather . . . and we will always, in healthcare, we will pay for interventions that consolidate or concentrate wealth in the hands of fewer parties than we would ever pay for interventions that disperse wealth, and one of the things that disperses wealth is if you have a labor force of people who would provide care, would go pick up my patients, and bring them here . . .and if we took all the money we spent on like marginal and useless and mediocre drugs, and we put all that money in that social system, you’re going to hire a lot of people and you’re going to spread wealth out, but you’re not going to concentrate wealth in the hands of a few investors and that kind of thing, and so that’s why – the way in which lobbying and pressure in the society work is always to push it the other way.

    My briefer version of Prasad’s Law (as I’m dubbing it) is:

    Prasad’s Law: Medical goods and services that concentrate wealth can be paid for; medical goods and services that disperse wealth are “unaffordable.” I think this is an enlightening law with broad explanatory power; and I imagine each reader can think of their own examples.

    It is not, in reality, a particularly surprising result, because the true purpose of the U.S. healthcare system is by no means to supply medical care (although that is indeed the goal of many who work within it), but instead to serve one overarching purpose – to make money for capitalists. Adequate nurse staffing does not make money for capitalists (even if it makes money for nurses); and crazy expensive, marginally effective, cancer drugs do make money for capitalists. It’s that simple.

  181. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bystander,

    This is what I’m talking about. Just announced.

    “Ocasio-Cortez takes victory lap after Amazon goes to NYC — even after she helped block $3 billion in subsidies”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/ocasio-cortez-takes-victory-lap-after-amazon-goes-to-nyc-even-after-she-helped-block-3-billion-in-subsidies/

  182. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The tech companies are coming..

    “Many in the New York business community worried that Amazon’s withdrawal would signal to other tech giants and large companies that New York had become inhospitable to business. Instead, Amazon’s continued expansion marks the latest sign that tech companies are scrambling for prime Manhattan real estate to attract the city’s large and well-educated talent pool.

    “It’s clear the main reason Amazon wanted to be here was the availability of a skilled tech workforce plus the synergy with related industries,” said James Parrott, an economist at the New School. “And New York City still retains that attraction.”

    A tech corridor stretching several dozen blocks is emerging on Manhattan’s west side, where Facebook’s search for new office space has led it to consider the Farley Building, a landmark post office under redevelopment across the street from Penn Station, according to people familiar with the matter. The Menlo Park, Calif.-based company said last month that it had signed a lease for a 1.5 million square-foot campus at Hudson Yards, several blocks further west.”

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