King Murphy

From NJ101.5:

NJ’S MURPHY SIGNALS POSSIBLE WHITE HOUSE RUN

With speculation intensifying that President Joe Biden will not seek a second term, Gov. Phil Murphy is raising his profile for a potential White House bid.

A $2 million ad blitz is underway touting Murphy’s accomplishments and promoting his progressive agenda. The ads are being paid for by the group Stronger Fairer Forward. The group is chaired by Murphy’s wife, Tammy, and run by former aide Dan Bryan.

Stronger Fairer Forward is one of two groups launched in February with the goal of raising Murphy’s profile. One is a political action committee and the other is a register non-profit. The groups do not have to report where their funding comes from.

Murphy cannot seek another term as governor and these types of organizations are often a precursor to a national run. They could fund advertising and pay for national travel.

Most New Jerseyans don’t want to see Murphy launch a national campaign.

Despite having relatively strong approval ratings in the latest Monmouth University Poll, the majority of those surveyed do not believe he would make a good president.

Murphy has a job approval rating of 55%, but 56% think he is the wrong choice for the White House.

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127 Responses to King Murphy

  1. Old Man Condo says:

    If taxes are your issue….maybe America is not your country?

  2. JCer says:

    Good lord, this guy barely won NJ. The idea of Murphy running for president is a bigger joke than Chris Christie running for president. Maybe he is a slightly better candidate than Kamala but even then I don’t know, it’s like when the Dems ran Mondale so given their judgment Murphy could be their guy.

    I don’t understand the dems, it’s the definition of insanity, they returned to their 1970’s platform which almost destroyed the democratic party forever, when they should be embracing “Bill Clinton” style policies. I blame Obama and the democratic socialists but at least the democrats had common sense in the 90’s.

  3. Old realtor says:

    The question is not just about the judgement of Democrats. Have you considered what Republicans hold office or aspire to? The question is about the judgement of Americans and who they nominate and vote for.

  4. Old realtor says:

    Curious about those who vote for or identify as Republicans here and how you feel about the pressure exerted upon elected officials by the Trump administration to appointment fake electors. Do you feel those Republican officials testified falsely? Do you believe they told the truth? If you feel they testified truthfully, what do you feel should be done about those who hatched the plan to appoint fake electors and pressured the elected officials?

  5. No One says:

    MABA
    Make America Baggers Again (by demanding you bring your own recyclable bags)
    The whole country should know that NJ governors think they cannot be trusted to pump their own gas or to use plastic straws or bags responsibly, but are trusted to smoke pot responsibly and without negative consequences.
    FU crooked smile Phil Murphy! Why don’t you just retire to your Italian villa and be satisfied as president of a girl’s soccer team?

  6. crushednjmillenial says:

    Murphy 2024 = McGovern 1972 or Carter 1980 or Mondale 1984 or Dukakis 1988

    The only silver lining to Murphy running would be him wasting $$$$ of his own money to get nowhere.

    The only silver lining to Murphy getting the nomination will be that when Trump 2024 or DeSantis 2024 wins, it will be such a landslide that maybe even the more-radical voices at nyt and cnn would need to cut out some of overheated rhetoric that Trump supporters are catergorically racist.

  7. 3b says:

    Eric Adams , Mayor of NYC is considering a run for President too. Barely 6 months as Mayor and he says he has a plan for America that will work. He was at various fundraisers in Chicago and LA last week. Anyone can run now!

  8. crushednjmillenial says:

    11:37 . . . I think before we get to such questions, we should always note that the Dem governors used covid as an excuse for big changes to the way elections normally work. Universal mail-in voting, for example. In November 2020, when red states demonstrated since May 2020 that even if there was no “response” to Covid, society did not fall down. Dem hands are not clean ahead of 2020 election.

  9. No One says:

    Old Realtor,
    I’m more pro-liberty than the current Republican party, but I’m in a Republican club and registered Republican (in Florida).
    I’d like the delusional Trump-worshipers to leave or be cast out of the Republican party and make their own small party that will gradually die, I hope. They are dropping the IQ of the average Republican by about 20 points, and Trump’s policies were about 60% wrong, and his hangers-on were nearly all third-rate, or at best second-rate thinkers.
    But I really don’t know what the Republicans will be when the Trump crowd finally loses control of the party.
    I saw a poll that suggested virtually every Republican who was “familiar” with DeSantis preferred him in 2024 to Trump. But DeSantis’ policies may not be so great either. If it’s religion and culture wars first, then I’m not thrilled.

  10. crushednjmillenial says:

    I suppose the purpose of the Jan. 6 hearings is to solidify the D base support and enthusiasm.

    From what I’ve seen, they are not swaying the minds of the independent or centrist voter. They are showing bad behavior by Trump and Co., but the D’s are coming off as cynical and opportunistic rather than being actually worried about upholding American ideals. Simply, the Jan. 6 hearings are D’s slinging mud rather than standing tall for the stars and stripes.

  11. crushednjmillenial says:

    Murphy 2024 not currently listed on Predictit for political gambling (I find more predictive value from watching gambling odds more than polling). Here is the D slate values – if you bet the below amounts, you’d win $1 if the person becomes the 2024 D candidate:

    Biden: $0.37
    Harris: $0.18
    Buttigieg: $0.14
    Newsome: $0.13
    Clinton: $0.05
    Abrams: $0.05
    Klobuchar: $0.04
    Sanders: $0.03
    Warren: $0.03
    AOC: $0.03
    S. Brown (OH): $0.02

    I suppose Murphy has a lane in this race, but he is just underestimating how unlikeable he is personally and how badly his record will resonate nationally.

  12. BRT says:

    FDA bans juul from the market…yeah that makes sense…ban a product that literally got a dozen of my friends to stop smoking cigarettes. Don’t worry though, we have weed candy now available and fentanyl is pouring across the border.

  13. 3b says:

    Warren warns Powell not to drive economy off a cliff.

  14. Fast Eddie says:

    …the D’s are coming off as cynical and opportunistic rather than being actually worried about upholding American ideals.

    American ideals to the modern democrat is like a crucif1x to a vampire. The democrats are putting on their best Oscar-nominating performance to mask their frustrations over every failed gimmick they introduce. The democrats are nothing more than the party of allegory and emblems.

  15. Old realtor says:

    Eddie,
    You believe that those Republican elected officials that testified we’re lying? Do you believe Trump won the election and was acting in the best interest of the country when he set out to overturn the results of the election?

  16. Bystander says:

    Old,

    You are not changing minds of cult. That was a given as they are low IQ knuckle draggers incapable of critical thought. They will deflect and blame Ds yet R after R is coming forth with confirmation that Trump and Rudy Colludy tried to overturn our democracy. It is clear as day but cult believes he just loves America so much.

    I mean look here and you see people thinking Trump will win in a landslide. Hah..GA alone can easily throw him in slammer based on Raffensperger tape. Now, a British filmmaker turned over video showing Trump family reactions during riot. It will be final nail. Please run the guy who had most votes against him all time…but now with riot video footage, witnesses, Barr, Pence nearly every R turned against him. Best of luck cult. Let’s see him make it out of primaries. He won’t surprise anyone with rhetoric like 2016, he won’t be underestimated and he will be treated brutally by real Rs.

  17. Hughesrep says:

    Allegory and emblems?

    When Fascism comes to The United States….

  18. Fast Eddie says:

    And right on a cue, the latest gimmick is introduced; the temporary gas tax suspension which will equate to 18 cents less per gallon MAXIMUM for a few months.

    While suspending the gas tax “isn’t going to solve the whole problem,” a senior administration official told reporters in previewing Wednesday’s announcement, “it is something that can be done to take a real step to relieve some of that pain at the pump.”

    LOL. Enjoy the $2.50 “relief” the next time you fill up your gas tank. This administration is a disaster. These mutherfuckers are amusing aside from their clueless, miserable ideas.

  19. 3b says:

    More than one third of Americans have only 10k or less saved for retirement.

  20. Old realtor says:

    Bystander,
    I am not trying to change anybody’s mind. I am trying to understand what people believe and why. Eddie ranted about the subject I asked about but didn’t address my questions or what he believes about the subject specifically. I want to see if anyone here will specifically say they believe the witnesses lied.

  21. Bystander says:

    Old,

    Got it but you won’t real answers. It will be illogical roundabout that somehow gets to Biden and absolves Dumpy from any of his insane actions. Truth and facts don’t matter. Conspiracies are what matter.

  22. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Capitalism. It’s brutally efficient. Not everyone is supposed to be a big winner under this system. And if you don’t like it, the other system eliminates winners and makes everyone a loser.

    3b says:
    June 22, 2022 at 12:28 pm
    More than one third of Americans have only 10k or less saved for retirement.

  23. Fast Eddie says:

    November 8th, 2022:

    Tick… tick… tick… tick…

  24. Bystander says:

    Anyone know the R platform for Nov? I hear it is only high gas prices because they will get smoked on women’s rights, more guns in schools, great job market 3.6 unemployment rate. What a useless party with no ideas or direction..

  25. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Clowns…what a joke. Lawyers that are politicians are the biggest scumbags out there.

    “When asked if the bills will have any impact on his job as an attorney, Scutari said: “I don’t think so. I hope they have an impact on the members of society who are involved in serious, horrific decisions.”

    Bramnick conceded as a lawyer he could benefit because his clients would be eligible for more in medical costs if they’re in a crash. But he said that’s not the reason he sponsored the bill. He got behind it because he feels insurance companies have gone too far in scaling back benefits for victims of crashes.

    “It’s not all about me,” Bramnick said. “I’m going to fight for the victim.””

    https://www.nj.com/politics/2022/06/nj-auto-insurance-rates-could-go-up-for-1-million-drivers-under-new-reform-bills-opponents-warn.html

  26. No One says:

    Bystander,
    Their platform will be “Our party isn’t the president’s, and we don’t control congress, and here are the ways the Dem President and congress has been associated with making your life worse over the past 18 months.

    What was Biden’s platform besides “I’m not Donald Trump”? Cancel energy pipelines on day 1? Build Back Better? which even his own party didn’t want to pass too much of?

  27. Old realtor says:

    Eddie,
    The discussion isn’t about winning the midterm or presidential election. The discussion is about an illegal attempt to maintain power after losing a fair election. There are hearings and witnesses. Are the witnesses telling the truth? If they are telling the truth, what should be done to those who hatched and furthered the conspiracy? Do you have an opinion to offer?

  28. crushednjmillenial says:

    Bystander at 12:47 . . .

    Do you think the D’s will hold the house? If you think the D’s will hold the house, you can wager $0.08 to win $1 in November. Big payout if you really believe it.

    The R’s are poised for a huge wave election, according to both polling and gambling odds.

    The platform of the R’s for the upcoming red wave is that Biden is leading the country in the wrong direction. They will paint any vote for a D legislator to be a vote in favor of Biden (both parties do it – D’s tell you to vote against MTG, R’s tell you to vote against AOC, regardless of how moderate one’s actual congressperson might be). Bystander, I’d imagine you wouldn’t vote for a R running for congress in your district even if that person wasn’t from the Trump wing of the party; well on the R side, a lot of people won’t vote even for moderate D’s because of the squad, Schiffs, gun-taking Beto, and wokesters. Topics include:

    -inflation
    -gas prices/green energy policy/keystone pipeline
    -crime/woke DA’s
    -Dems overreacting to covid (vote against the party that closed your business and your kids’ school)
    -Biden to is too old
    -Biden is too ineffective (only legislation passed by Biden was either covid relief or the one infrastructure bill)
    -Biden wasn’t able to get Manchin in line
    -border crisis
    -botched withdrawal from Afghanistan
    -D’s exaggerating Jan. 6 (calling a few hundred whackos an “insurrection”)
    -vote against Woke
    -protect 2A

    School-related stuff:
    -the D’s DOJ referred to parents at school board meetings “domestic t-***s”
    -CRT even getting near an elementary school
    -instruction re LGBT issues for children in Grade 3 or younger

  29. 3b says:

    JP Morgan laying off hundred of mortgage employees and reassigning hundreds more. I feel bad for those people impacted. Housing party is over.

  30. crushednjmillenial says:

    1:13 . . .

    I don’t know the details of exactly what the testimony is re Jan. 6. I was listening to some of it while driving, but then they had Schiff come on and ask questions and I immediately changed the channel. Schiff was the number one pusher amongst elected officials of the Russian collusion narrative, so he doesn’t have credibility – I will never listen to a word he has to say if I can change the channel. Maybe some fraction of the American population agree with me on this point.

    From the parts of the Jan. 6 hearings that I heard, the D’s were trying to make something liek the following point: “Trump heard from his AG, some advisors, and other people in the administration that there were not stolen votes. Therefore, Trump KNEW there were not stolen votes.” I simply disagree. Trump doesn’t need to believe anyone – not his AG, not anybody from the Deep State, not all the kings horse and all the kings men. He can choose to believe who he wants. Therefore, to the extent that I am one of the 300 million jurors that get to vote in 2024, the Jan. 6 hearings are not moving my vote in the D’s favor.

    To your question about whether R witnesses are lying. I do not think they are lying. I nonetheless believe that the D’s are twisting things. When Trump says “find me 11,000 votes,” I interpret that as something like “obviously, vote tallying is very imprecise – it takes a lot of time for some precincts to be counted, results can change due to recounts, etc, so figure out if there are things like that out there. Similarly, maybe there was some shady stuff going on that was favorable to D’s, so go find that. In addition, votes can be disqualified for postmarks too late or whatever, so look into that too.” I simply do not hear what the D’s want someone to hear – “illegally change the votes somehow or lie about it otherwise.”

    ^anyway, this is just the perspective of 1 of the 330,000,000 Americans that may or may not have an opinion on this stuff

  31. No One says:

    Crushed,
    You’re going to upset Libturd if you rail against govt-school-sponsored drag queen story time for 8 year olds held captive by government teachers.
    But bike paths he’s against.

  32. Fast Eddie says:

    Do you have an opinion to offer?

    No, none whatsoever. I haven’t watched a wasteful minute of the democrat’s nonsense. It’s a leftist clown show run but the same Schiffhead that was going to display undisputable Russian collusion evidence. The democrats have nothing to offer that is positive for the benefit of America. I have a meeting coming up now, can’t indulge.

  33. Bystander says:

    crushed,

    That is your list and no one else’s..blue wave/red wave..always big talk but reality is that most places revert to their usual voting patterns. Rs could win a bunch of seats, so what. That always happens, even under Orange idiot.

    When Trump says “find me 11,000 votes,” I interpret that as something like “obviously, vote tallying is very imprecise – it takes a lot of time for some precincts to be counted, results

    Your interpretation is a laugh and typical of Dumpy supporters who take his dumb statements and make it sound like meant something else.

  34. Ex says:

    12:47 maine just paved the way for Tax Free churches and parochial schools to
    Grab the cash your taxes provide.

  35. crushednjmillenial says:

    2:16 . . .

    My list is issues that R’s are campaigning on in the R primaries and a preview of what the R’s will say in the general elections this year. I wrote out the list because you asked what the R’s are going to run on in 2022.

    You wrote “Rs could win a bunch of seats, so what. That always happens, even under Orange idiot.” Um . . . the point of US elections is to win those seats. Then, with the seats, the Rs can govern with a different agenda than the D’s would. If you don’t care that the R’s are going to win a bunch of seats this year, then that’s great . . . for the R’s. I suppose the national D party feels the same way you do, they aren’t course correcting even though their current course leads to losing something like 30+ seats in the House that are currently held by D’s. R’s need like 5 seats to have a majority.

    Bystander, you wrote “Your interpretation is a laugh and typical of Dumpy supporters who take his dumb statements and make it sound like meant something else.” Ok, well, half the country apparently doesn’t interpret things the way you do. If it makes you feel good to name call Trump supporters or others on the right, then please go right ahead. Meanwhile, I suppose the R’s will just win big in 2022 and 2024 and put policy in place that you disagree with.

  36. NYC Director says:

    @3B. Housing party is over.

    Individual mortgage underwriting standards have held up pretty well even during the last two years of madness. Have a feeling that its the large institutional residential investors that may be more leveraged than most realize this time.

    Many single family properties were purchased as low as 4% cap rates in the last 4-5 years with free Powell funding. It was good business while it lasted. These guys have all quietly stopped buying and this is the primary reason for the recent slight increase in inventory.

    I have a super bad feeling there will be several large liquidation Zillow type announcements over the next 24 months.

  37. Bystander says:

    crushed,

    I guess it makes you feel good to extrapolate what will happen in 6 months or even more two years. I remember blue talking big wave too, remember? I don’t think anyone knows. We will see but in mean time, the Orange clown has J6, NY, GA, AZ legal mess to deal with. Brush it aside bc he ‘hurts the libs most’. That is all it is about..not patriotism, rule of law, democracy.

  38. Juice Box says:

    King Murphy does not have all that much party support yet. Longtime Democratic party strategist David Axelrod says California Governor Gavin Newsom would be the best replacement for Joe Biden.

    I agree ANY non-boomer, preferably 25 years younger is a good start.

  39. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And you know where they were buying…. “Hot” south and southwest markets that were considered cheap.

    Just like stocks, mannnn. Prices are what they are if no one is selling. Prices aren’t real at the top because there is not enough buyers to support major selling. So the only people who make out are the ones who sell before the large liquidation.

    Everything is a Ponzi scheme…from pensions to consumer goods to the stock market to the bond market to the housing market. That’s all it really is. Only time you realize it is all a Ponzi scheme is when bad times come and force massive liquidation that the market was never meant to function on.

    Markets are one big scam where early buyers and early sellers are rewarded every cycle. That’s how you get rich. Get greedy and hold too long, finished. Get scared and wait too long to buy instead of buying early…wrecked.

    “Many single family properties were purchased as low as 4% cap rates in the last 4-5 years with free Powell funding. It was good business while it lasted. These guys have all quietly stopped buying and this is the primary reason for the recent slight increase in inventory.

    I have a super bad feeling there will be several large liquidation Zillow type announcements over the next 24 month”

  40. Not NYC Director says:

    NYC Director, you might be very, very right.

    Taking into account that the actual structure of these large residential investor is optimized for extracting “fees” by their wall street creators and not as a long term investment profit machine.

    Would it not be poetically funny, if their failure causes the gigantic housing melt down fire sale that was avoided by Bernanke, Obama and all the other wall street boot lickers when they bailed out wall street. The combination of massive amount of single family houses in mostly deep red states, higher mortgage rates that the Fed can’t do anything about because of inflation, and burn everything down – only white people vote populist republicans in control.

  41. MurphyAdams2024 says:

    Vote Murphy and Adams 2024

    Our Motto is ” A Black Irish is better than a White Russian”

  42. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Quick real estate price lesson.

    Let’s say I’m a asshole with access to large amounts of capital (don’t want you to stretch your imagination here). I want to buy a house or ten.

    You and 99 other buyers also want a house. This is what happens.

    🧵👇
    2/ Before I showed up you were happily bidding against each other. No need to max out your budget, most of you just want a home.

    You each bid to produce a little more value as your city grows or becomes wealthier.
    3/ Now the government says people aren’t buying homes fast enough, so they slash rates.

    Sellers in your market begin to think:

    – rates are low;
    – a monthly mortgage payment went from $3k to $2k, but it still rents for $3k; or
    – I want $3k at least.
    4/ In this scenario, we’ll say the average mortgage rate went from 4% to 1.5%, like it just did.

    The reduction in rates supported a price increase of about 23%. This would be considered fundamental price support because a user substitute exists (assuming rents are efficient).
    5/ The last point is something any Realtor worth their salt understands.

    The best ones have a stable of investors that pick up property with price inefficiencies.

    Doesn’t matter where. Atlanta’s biggest broker hasn’t been in Georgia for two years & bought 300 homes last year.
    6/ This is the first important point. Lower rates don’t provide end-users with cheaper housing. It might briefly, but market inefficiencies are closed quickly.

    You can’t close it? An investor will. This is what happened in 🇨🇦.

    7/ Now back to me the rich asshole buyer. Sounds like a great time for me to show up, right?

    I need to distribute capital to diversify my risk. 5% of your portfolio is a few shares of $shop, but 5% for some families is homes around the world they will never see.
    8/ What does this bidding scenario look like? Let’s say 60% of you can afford to buy.

    Price last year was $350k. I enter the market.

    Bids:
    – me: $400k
    – local: $450k
    – only 50% of locals can buy now, but we keep bidding.

    – me: $500k
    – local: $550k

    Congrats, you win.
    9/ I could have outbid you, but my agent felt they could find another deal for cheaper.

    I’m 0% of the market but helped drive the price of that home up 37.5%.

    We do it again, but the next seller starts bidding at $550k because the house down the street sold for this level.
    10/ At this price, let’s say 40% of the market can only afford to bid.

    – local: $550k
    – me: $650k

    I win. It was more than I wanted to spend but the agent assures me it’s a better plot. Or we never talk and the agent just sends my FO an email to say it’s done.
    11/ I’m 1% of the market but helped drive prices 62.5% higher. I’ll also establish a price floor since I’m getting free money.

    My overseas bank will lend to me at 0.25% while your local bank lends to you at 1.5%. We both got leverage but yours is 6x more expensive.
    12/ In this scenario, I’m what’s known as a marginal buyer. These are buyers who have a disproportional impact on the market.

    I’m willing to outbid and set the price floor. I’m a small share of the market, but I create the rules of the game we’re about to play.
    13/ Why is this all of a sudden an issue? Zero interest rates.

    Low rates force investors to go from efficient capital use (building companies & creating jobs) to defensive capital protection.

    14/ A few points on why housing and now:
    – rates were never this low prior to the Global Financial Crisis
    – global capital moves much faster and is *desired*
    – housing is poorly regulated & run by self-regulated associations. Bid up stocks like this & you’re in jail in the US.
    15/Well-meaning housing activists, many unwittingly manipulated by the industry, say this is a myth. Just xenophobia. It’s a conspiracy!

    It’s not.🇨🇦’s largest developer once said, people didn’t get out of Hong Kong… they just shifted their portfolios.
    16/ In 2015, Blackrock’s CEO told a group of uber rich advisors in Singapore that homes in NYC, London, & Vancouver are amongst the best stores of value.

    Middle class people are so manipulated, they would think most things rich people say are conspiracy

    17/ Why not focus on ALL investors? Because all investors aren’t the problem. It’s the type.

    A non-resident speculator doesn’t even think about putting someone in the home. It’s not a rental, it’s a bar of gold they stashed out of their local government’s reach.
    18/ They’re also using global capital. This turns an inefficiency in say, the EU into one in 🇨🇦 & 🇺🇸.

    The EU may not even see a speculation issue but their capital can fuel it elsewhere. Regular folks don’t understand we borrow where it’s cheap, not necessarily where we live.
    19/ Housing is also poorly regulated. Banks will literally help you sneak money in by opening several bank accounts in other people’s names in violation of KYC principles, as long as you’re getting a mortgage.

    Just poor immigrants looking to buy a $20 million home, clearly.
    20/ Real immigrants do get caught up in regulations & mortgages can be hard to get.

    It’s a tough situation. However, looking past source f income means you don’t know how the money was made. This is why money laundering became prevalent in housing.
    21/ Back to investors. When prices like this surge, real investors step back thinking, “cashflow doesn’t make sense.”

    But mom & pop, just downloaded TikTok & learned you don’t need the rent to cover it. Appreciation will do it.

    You also don’t need money: HELOC & low rates.
    22/ Around the office we call these types of investors “speculords.” They aren’t landlords & they aren’t investors.

    They’re speculators depending on appreciation, that just happen to have someone renting it. Since the rent is lower than the mortgage, they subsidize the renter.
    23/ Both speculords & global capital competes for the same homes.

    RBC, 🇨🇦’s biggest bank, said its portfolio had seen investors begin to replace first-time buyers. Of course they are. They’re competing for the same properties.

    Investors are now 19% of 🇺🇸 purchases & 23% in🇨🇦
    24/ but where do first-time buyers go? The cheap money orgy forces them to rent a little longer.

    Except all of these homes, 1 in 5 just bought, are cashflow negative in many cities like Toronto and Vancouver. They need to pressure higher rents to cover their costs.
    25/ Rents begin to creep very fast, all because some asshole named Tiff or Powell decided the inflation reading was false & they knew better.

    So, yes. I do think foreign capital is a problem. So are low rates. Together they conspired to commit a generational heist.

  43. SendMe LawyersGunsMoney says:

    What the nutjob Mercer family was using Cambridge Analytica to do with tech in assessing and manipulating votes , is no different than a political machine does is Hudson County with political workers.

    The 2024 election is going to be a send me Lawyers, Guns, and Money election. Steve Bannon is exulting the red state proletariat to put down their meth pipe and sign up as a poll worker. Minority voters should expect to be bullied with gun totters outside of polls, with electoral workers challenging their identity and overall slowing down the process to minimize their voting powers.

    A Murphy and Adams crowd would know how to efficiently create the machine to tackle the plans that the Reds have. First money, very deep pockets needed because…

    Lawyers – Lots of lawyers at every courthouse to clear the identity and validity of a illegally challenged voter.
    Guns – Lots of people with guns will need to be hired to be at every polling place to keep in check the Reds bullying.
    Money – It will pay for Uber/Lyft/Cabs trips by challenged voter to see judge. It will pay for gift of pizza, chipotle, dunkin donuts, guns and ammo to voters, volunteers,and workers.

  44. Boomer Remover says:

    I was browsing Zillow earlier, reviewing price histories for select ads and it occurred to me that something is missing. Then, I figured it out! Zillow removed the graphical representation of price change over time from their listings.

  45. chicagofinance says:

    Gavin Newsome? NFW. Moron. He checks all the boxes, but has no substance. He is unlikeable too. He is not as bad, but in the same continuum as Kamala Harris, including bad voice.

    Juice Box says:
    June 22, 2022 at 3:13 pm
    Longtime Democratic party strategist David Axelrod says California Governor Gavin Newsom would be the best replacement for Joe Biden.

  46. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s coming…

    “Feel like i have to share this:

    In months if not weeks – the economy is going to collapse overnight – everything is going to grind to a halt. You’ll hear how great everything is till the last minute

    Plan accordingly”

  47. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wow, Pelosi cancels gas tax.

    I’m actually impressed Pelosi isn’t Pandering here. Saving people $15-$50 this summer with this political theater is a bit insulting to most readable people’s intelligence.

  48. The Great Pumpkin says:

    * Biden’s gas tax

  49. Phoenix says:

    Always the money. Who cares about cancer detection anyway?

    “Scientists have found that insects and animals can be used to smell cancer.

    This has been through either sniffing the urine, breath or sweat of cancerous patients.

    Scientists suggest this is because cancer cells produce a unique set of chemicals.

    These are then released from the body via urine, breath and sweat — and can be detected by animals.

    There has been little work to move forward with the commercial use of insects and animals for detecting cancer, however.

    Scientists suggest this is because it is difficult to determine how the venture would make money.”

  50. Very Stable Genius says:

    BREAKING: RNC Chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, just admitted during the Jan 6 hearing that Donald Trump, himself, was DIRECTLY involved in the fake elector plot.

    She said Trump called HER and connected her to John Eastman to help coordinate false sets of electors.

  51. The Great Pumpkin says:
  52. The Great Pumpkin says:

    At the end of the day…democrats are done. They will take the blame for this economy. Should have just let trump steal the election. Biden is a dead man walking with this populist movement ready to eat him and the woke movement.

  53. Ex says:

    Foolishness. This ineffectualism is a feature, not a bug.

  54. Nomad says:

    NYC Director says:
    June 22, 2022 at 3:10 pm

    So what you mean is that they bought the houses at a price that future rents won’t support debt / interest service ie rents drop and vacancies increase? If increasing vacancies, these people end up renting D grade properties?

  55. leftwing says:

    “Gov. Phil Murphy is raising his profile for a potential White House bid.”

    Oh, Lord. The Dems, the Party that just keeps giving. Please do…Hell, I’ll move to a swing State with open primaries, take up residence, just to vote for him as the Dem candidate.

    The general election results would rival McGovern in ’72 for Murphy as the nominee, lol…..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_McGovern#/media/File:1972_United_States_presidential_election_results_map_by_county.svg

  56. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    It took three posts to make the conversion about trump. There’s progress for tds people.

    Murphy is the typical progressive coastal elite. In nj he only got the votes he could buy. No charisma at all. All the woke shlt and open borders. Weak profile for a candidate.

  57. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    The J6 stuff is being produced by TV execs. It’s propaganda. Take disparate bits of information and facts out of context and plus then into a narrative. Mix in grandstanding and self promotion for the participants. I use the same playbook as the never ending hoaxes. Totally irrelevant except to their base.

  58. Phoenix says:

    Murphy.

    Another Boomer full of himself.

  59. leftwing says:

    “fake electors…From what I’ve seen, [J6 Committee] are not swaying the minds of the independent or centrist voter…”

    Agree. Just using the term fake electors shows bias…Elections, including for Federal office, are State matters run by individual States…

    It’s why during COVID some States could make such drastic changes like universal mail-in balloting and why each State selects its own electors for the Electoral College.

    I know there are precedent cases that chip away at those rights, and reviewed them and shared them here in the aftermath of 2020. Even I though (a serious wonk) had to look them up.

    Meaning to the point above J6 Committee machinations on plumbing the depths of the US electoral system are so far away from the average person’s wheelhouse they just don’t care…other than for how uniquely bad DJT is showing.

    For Dems, with those Predictit numbers, take a Gretchen Whitmer or such.

  60. Old realtor says:

    Leftwing,
    What is the unbiased description for a slate of electors chosen to substitute for lawfully selected electors for the purpose of changing the result of a lawful presidential election?

  61. Fast Eddie says:

    The J6 Committee… in theaters now! You can thank Donald Trump for giving the dems a catchy name for their curtain-raising, carnival pageant.

    I saw a cut this morning of O’Biden whispering (insert whisper voice here) ‘for the gas companies to lower the gas station prices’! There, he told them. He looks like a drunken Mr. Gower from the movie, “It’s a Wonderful Life.” I wonder if the democrats revisit the other 28 problems they’ve created under this regime or just abandon them for the soup de jour? Is the J6 production still garnering 20 million viewers per performance or have they lost the attention of the muppet populace?

    Anyway, it’s Thursday… who’s up for a mean tweet and $2.20/gallon of gas?

  62. leftwing says:

    Old Realtor…as I’ve said you need to dig back into the law and precedent, as I did and have no desire to do again. It is complex, arcane, and not even settled law. It most certainly does not lend itself to being boiled down into two word catch phrases like ‘fake electors’ or ‘Big Lie’.

    Combine my response with everyone else here ignoring your repeated requests for specificity and you have your answers…the majority of the population just doesn’t care about the J6 Committee maneuverings.

    “I want to see if anyone here will specifically say they believe the witnesses lied.”

    “There are hearings and witnesses. Are the witnesses telling the truth?…Do you have an opinion to offer?”

  63. Phoenix says:

    Boomer fleeing the debt he created. Just like the NY/Fla thing that has been going on for years. Govt pension workers the best at it.

    “Being lazy, but anyone know of any sources that support this?”

    https://tfiglobalnews.com/2022/06/16/for-the-first-time-americans-are-migrating-en-masse-to-mexico/amp/

  64. Fast Eddie says:

    I was looking at random houses for sale ranging from Route 9W west to Denville, various towns and such and the asking prices for those bought and sold just a few years ago is ridiculous. 30% plus gains in 6 or 7 years is just absurd. It’s difficult to measure whether prices dropped nominally after 2008 or just stagnated as wages and inflation caught up to it. What kills me are the fat f.ucks who do nothing with their house and snag 6-digit gains in a few years for doing nothing. If you’re going to show the house, at least de-clutter the dump and plug in an air freshener. At least make an effort.

  65. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Fast,

    People don’t have a work ethic. They want top dollar for their pos house, just like they want top dollar for their pos labor.

  66. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just showing up means I should be paid top dollar…. beautiful mindset.

    This coming crash will correct that behavior.

  67. 3b says:

    Fast : Two houses in my town ( right next door to each other) A friend of mine used to live in one of them , so I am familiar with the house/ style, and they are unusual, but very attractive.

    One is for sale at 798k and the other at 789. One was purchased in 1986 ( bubble period) at 195k and the other in 2003 ( another bubble period) at 450k. Both recently updated. It will be interesting to see what these eventually close at, and obviously the one who purchased in 1986 has a lot of flexibility come any price changes, or new price as realtors say.

  68. Phoenix says:

    What kills me are the fat f.ucks who do nothing with their house and snag 6-digit gains in a few years for doing nothing. If you’re going to show the house, at least de-clutter the dump and plug in an air freshener. At least make an effort.

    Doesn’t appear any of this is necessary. Plenty of investors with cash to burn who cares?

  69. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Some humans need to be put down. This guy is clearly too far gone. Who in their right mind beats a toy poodle to death. Of course, he will get a slap on the wrist till his next crime.

    “A necropsy performed on Bentley showed he died as a result of being beaten, the prosecutor’s office said.”

    https://www.nj.com/monmouth/2022/06/man-killed-girlfriends-toy-poodle-abandoned-another-authorities-say.html

  70. leftwing says:

    Nice ruling NYS v Bruen on 2A

  71. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “A gas tax holiday is incredibly stupid policy. Subsidizing demand in a shortage is just going to lead to massive windfalls for refinery and oil companies in exchange for minor consumer savings at a tremendous cost to the government.”

  72. Phoenix says:

    LW,
    No surprise. Funny how many NJ Democrat teachers move to Florida and become Republicans.

    Democrats when working, Republicans when Retired.

    Tax the taxpayer for my profit when working, but leave the debt back in NJ.

  73. Phoenix says:

    Jersey is over 200 billion? Anyone planning to leave here?

    “Illinois owes over $139 billion in state pension debt as of last year, and local governments owe about $75 billion, which is the primary driver for Illinois’ spiraling property taxes, second-highest in the nation.”

  74. No One says:

    Isn’t the purpose of the J6 hearings to basically rebroadcast how Trump lives in a virtual reality of his own delusions and surrounds himself with yes-men who he expects to help reality conform to his wishes, impossible though they may be?
    Kind of like a spoiled child. I don’t worry much about Trump’s criminality, its his underlying unwillingness to accept evidence about reality that I think is really dangerous, along with the belief that rules don’t apply when they conflict with his wishes.
    At this point, decent people, which I think most Republicans purport to be, reject as a president someone who thinks and behaves this way. He might make an ok talk show host trashing his opponents, but that’s not presidential material.

  75. Phoenix says:

    “Lawmakers should amend the state constitution’s ironclad pension guarantees in a way that would protect benefits that retirees have already earned while allowing for changes in future benefits.”

    So Boomer gets his bennies, the youth doesn’t get them-but what the youth does get is the debt left by Boomer as they aren’t taking that with them.

  76. leftwing says:

    NoOne…there is no one in my social group who

    (i) supports Trump for 2024, or

    (ii) believes the J6 Committee has any credibility.

    May be cognitive dissonance for liberals but makes perfect sense to me.

  77. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yawn…another billionaire trying to skip the bill on taxes by moving to a no “income tax” location. Florida hands down attracts the biggest scumbags from all classes of society.

    leftwing says:
    June 23, 2022 at 11:19 am
    FL snags another….

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/ken-griffin-moving-citadel-from-chicago-to-miami-following-crime-complaints-11655994600?mod=hp_lead_pos10

  78. Phoenix says:

    Amazing how they predicted the future years ago:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qogLcQsRlG0

  79. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Florida is one big orgy of scum running from the bills they ran up….either from child support, to boomer pigs that drove up a giant bill and ran, to billionaires looking for any way possible to get over on the rest of society because that is what makes them feel good about life and themselves. All scum.

  80. No One says:

    Below is the summary of a third-party research report I just received regarding US housing. Thought it may be of interest here. First time I’ve seen a forecast of yoy real estate price declines.

    We developed a framework to forecast home prices six months into the future. We had previously built one that does the same for the volume of new and existing home sales. We currently expect volumes to be down by a little more than (20)% six months from now, compared to a (15.5)% decline in the past six months. Prices are forecast to be flat to marginally down year-over-year, compared to the recent rate of year-over-year appreciation of +15% to +22%. Our volume forecasts match what went on in the major housing downturns of the last five decades, and consistent with that, expectations for trajectory of tightening turned down two months ago, when home inventories and discounting begin to increase.

    Our Home Price Forecaster incorporates a range of factors including: the changes in home sales volumes, mortgage rates, listing prices, vacancy rates, cash purchases and the rate at which people are returning to work. It also takes account of the level of inventories and the controversy surrounding consumer durable stocks. What’s driving the latest forecast is the spike in mortgage rates and the resulting declines in volumes and increase in discounting. The positives are the still-modest levels of inventories, the near-record-low vacancy rates and the recent uptrend in prices.

    Housing impacts the economy directly, through outlays for new home and apartment construction, spending on home improvements and the commissions paid to brokers. There is also liquidity created when existing homes are traded and then re-mortgaged. The loan-to-value ratio on the stock is just over 30% and about a quarter of existing purchases are made with cash. The downturn we’re forecasting could cut into GDP growth by around three-quarters of a point, and conceivably by more than that. The effects have yet to appear though as construction outlays have continued to grow, even as starts and sales rolled over.

  81. No One says:

    Leftwing,
    Has there ever been a congressional hearing that wasn’t primarily designed to wage political battles? It pretty much has the same credibility that other such hearings have had. Always biased, always has a political purpose, the only question being whether it has the content to serve its purpose. Isn’t it always a circus dressed up in suits for their opponents’ funeral?
    I’m not watching it, but I’m curious to hear whether any actual information comes out of it.

  82. The Great Pumpkin says:

    As a former resident of Florida, here’s my 3-pronged theory:

    1. ⁠politics in Florida is dominated by retirees. This means that political decisions favor making things cheap and easy, rather than planning for the future and investing in the youth. In other words, not a lot of money for schools, early childhood programs, youth development, etc. So a lot of people get fucked up in childhood and grow into pathological adults.
    2. ⁠The climate is miserably hot and humid. No one wants to go outside and mingle with their neighbors and form a real community. This makes people more anti-social.
    3. ⁠It’s a very diverse state with people from all over (cubans, retirees from the north, Hatians, southerners, etc.). For some reason, different groups are racist against one another.

  83. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Mr. Friedman had long asserted that a central bank could create inflation by printing money—in practice, purchasing government bonds with newly created reserves. Yet when the Bank of Japan began buying government debt in the 2000s to boost inflation, it failed. In 2008, during the financial crisis, the Fed began buying bonds as federal deficits ballooned. Conservative economists and Republican lawmakers warned the Fed this would “risk currency debasement and inflation.”

    But inflation stayed low. This showed that while central banks could create money, they couldn’t force businesses or households to spend it. In other words, velocity, the link between money and spending, kept changing, which made the quantity theory of money of little use for predicting inflation. In 2020, Alan Detmeister, an economist at UBS Group AG and formerly of the Fed, found inflation’s correlation to M2 since the early 1980s quite weak and its correlation to both the monetary base and M1 to be negative.

    Working economists have since largely ignored the money supply. Mr. Friedman told the Financial Times in 2003, “The use of quantity of money as a target has not been a success…I’m not sure I would as of today push it as hard as I once did.” Economists agree that over the long run, money growth tracks inflation. But you don’t need that to diagnose an inflation problem. Suffice to watch inflation itself, Columbia University economist Michael Woodford wrote in 2007.

    Not surprisingly then, economists didn’t pay much attention when annual M2 growth soared to 27% in early 2021 as stimulus checks and borrowing spurred by low interest rates flooded bank accounts with cash. In retrospect, though, this was a sign of soaring nominal income.

    Jason Furman, an economist at Harvard University who served in the Obama administration, argued in a recent academic journal article that inflation in 2021 is best explained by stimulus that dramatically raised nominal income, which, through the fiscal multiplier process, generated an explosive rise in nominal demand. That rise in demand exceeded what the economy could supply on such short notice, especially given disruptions caused by Covid-19. The gap between excess demand and constrained supply showed up as sharply higher prices.

    While Mr. Furman’s analysis doesn’t use the money supply, it resembles the quantity theory of money in relying on nominal demand to forecast inflation rather than unemployment, as the Fed’s models now do. Indeed, some economists have suggested the Fed should target a stable growth rate of nominal demand (more precisely, nominal gross domestic product) instead of inflation because it doesn’t require a judgment on whether excess demand or supply disruptions are pushing up prices. With such a target, the Fed would have begun tightening monetary policy sooner, said David Beckworth, an economist at the Mercatus Center, a think tank.

    It is possible, Mr. Furman said, that using the gap between nominal demand and the economy’s supply-side capacity to forecast inflation only works at times like last year when the gap is so large. The same might be true of big increases in the money supply. Still, it is worth noting that money-supply growth this year has plunged. If the monetarists are right, perhaps that means inflation will, too.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/inflation-surge-earns-monetarism-another-look-11655906400?mod=wsjhp_columnists_pos1

  84. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So if you understand what that article is saying…it wasn’t money printing directly or lower rates that led to inflation….it was the businesses that cut back production and got overwhelmed with demand. Without that, you could have printed up money to the moon and it would not have resulted in this kind of inflation. Ask japan.

    Business cut back in production is responsible for the hell we are now living in.

    “Jason Furman, an economist at Harvard University who served in the Obama administration, argued in a recent academic journal article that inflation in 2021 is best explained by stimulus that dramatically raised nominal income, which, through the fiscal multiplier process, generated an explosive rise in nominal demand. That rise in demand exceeded what the economy could supply on such short notice, especially given disruptions caused by Covid-19. The gap between excess demand and constrained supply showed up as sharply higher prices.”

  85. Boomer Remover says:

    Been listening to J Pow getting raked over coals by morons for two days now. Yesterday is was about there being no Latino regional fed heads, today its about finding a way to resolve inflation without increasing black unemployment.

    None of these folks are for a healthy union, just their own constituency.

    The one standout for me was JP saying nothing, not even 1% is off the table.

  86. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You want inflation…cut the amount of goods available. Create a hording environment. An environment of scarcity in the consumer’s mind. Then you will get your inflation.

    Not going to get it from money printing or low rates if what the consumer demands, they have. If they have what they demand, why would they drive up pricing?

  87. leftwing says:

    No One, yeah, hearings can be partisan. Although not always. Guess I’m drilling deeper into a lack of good faith….started with Pelosi blackballing Repub appointees, something never done before….follows through with prime-time coverage (wtf, is this a sitcom?), an actual TV producer on board, and selective witness recorded disclosure (ie, no way for interrogation, just edited positioning).

    Hell, I could make you personally out to be Che, Stalin, Mussolini, or a mullah by taking select snippets from your posts here, editing them together, and not having you present to respond….

    Less credibility than usual.

  88. 3b says:

    Boomer: A number of Dems also want to add a 3rd mandate to the Fed where they will be obligated to ensure economic equity for minorities. They want the Fed to be a involved in social engineering as well . It’s madness!

  89. OC1 says:

    “No One, yeah, hearings can be partisan. Although not always. Guess I’m drilling deeper into a lack of good faith….started with Pelosi blackballing Repub appointees, ”

    The republicans refused to have a bipartisan commission, where they could have put anyone on the commision that they wanted to.

    You are like the guy who murdered his parents asking the court to show mercy because he’s an orphan.

  90. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Such ambitions face a major obstacle in the West. The nations that gave birth to the nuclear age are short on managers and skilled workers with experience in building reactors after shunning nuclear energy for years. A handful of plants already under construction across the U.S. and Europe are years late and billions over budget. The projects have left companies insolvent and exposed weaknesses in U.S. and European nuclear engineering capabilities.

    In France, the construction of a cutting-edge reactor at the Flamanville nuclear plant was expected to anchor the country’s independence from foreign energy supplies and churn out electricity with nearly zero greenhouse gases.

    The reactor was supposed to be ready by 2012. A decade later, welders are still fixing mistakes discovered seven years ago, squeezing into the reactor’s warren of pipes with soldering irons and using robots to repair more than 100 substandard welds across the reactor’s cooling system.

    “The quality was very far from the expected level,” said Julien Collet, deputy director of France’s Nuclear Safety Authority.

    Georgia Power is building two reactors, among the first new U.S. nuclear units to break ground in more than three decades. The project is behind schedule and billions of dollars over its estimated cost. “We had to train welders and all these other crafts to be nuclear workers,” said Will Salters, a union official working on the construction at the Vogtle plant in Burke County, Ga. “We hardly had them in the country. All the ones we had were either retired or passed away.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/nuclear-power-climate-change-russia-energy-11655995024?mod=hp_lead_pos5

  91. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Man, we are pathetic…destroyed our ability to build things. Can’t even weld…

    “Georgia Power is building two reactors, among the first new U.S. nuclear units to break ground in more than three decades. The project is behind schedule and billions of dollars over its estimated cost. “We had to train welders and all these other crafts to be nuclear workers,” said Will Salters, a union official working on the construction at the Vogtle plant in Burke County, Ga. “We hardly had them in the country. All the ones we had were either retired or passed away.””

  92. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Good question, Mr. Jacobson.

    “A decline in the cost of electricity from wind turbines, solar panels and other renewable technologies has raised questions about whether nuclear power is worth the investment. Batteries that store electricity when the wind and sunshine are lacking have become commercially feasible, though supply-chain problems have recently held back their deployment.

    “Why not just develop more renewable energy, which is safer and cheaper and much faster to build? It doesn’t make any sense,” said Mark Jacobson, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at Stanford University. “Storage adds cost, but the cost is trivial relative to new nuclear.””

  93. SmallGovConservative says:

    leftwing says:
    June 23, 2022 at 12:56 pm
    “No One, yeah, hearings can be partisan. Although not always…”

    Can’t wait until the R’s take control and move forward with the Hunter Biden hearings. I know they won’t amount to anything since Hunter is protected by the swamp, but the visual aids, and cast of characters called to provide testimony will be pure gold — ‘must watch’ TV for sure!

  94. OC1 says:

    Hunter Biden is a grifter and a reprehensible person, but he is a private citizen.

    I would never vote for him for anything.

    What I don’t understand is why some here loudly support other reprehensible grifters.

  95. joyce says:

    The Fed already has three mandates, of which they fail on all counts… “so as to promote effectively the goals of maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates.” However, the Fed succeeds spectacularly at it’s real purpose.

    3b says:
    June 23, 2022 at 1:03 pm
    Boomer: A number of Dems also want to add a 3rd mandate to the Fed where they will be obligated to ensure economic equity for minorities. They want the Fed to be a involved in social engineering as well . It’s madness!

  96. 3b says:

    Oc1 Hunter is a grifter whose Father is President, and also VP for 8 years. And Hunter s activities appear questionable to say the least; therein lies the issue.

  97. Fast Eddie says:

    Can’t wait until the R’s take control and move forward with the Hunter Biden hearings.

    I don’t want them to move forward with it; neither Hunter or the old man. I’d rather see them push ideas that benefit all and strengthen the country. Leave the theatrics to the resentful and angry left.

  98. Boomer Remover says:

    Woooow, fk me! Now I’ve seen it all. Eddie taking the high road on politics.

  99. OC1 says:

    3b- You missed my point. Reprehensible grifter in the private sector is less concerning to me than reprehensible grifter in the oval office.

  100. leftwing says:

    “The republicans refused to have a bipartisan commission, where they could have put anyone on the commision that they wanted to.”

    You keep saying this and you are incorrect or obfuscating.

    The Senate Republicans declined another specific 1/6 hearing as there were already two in process. As such, there was no Senate participation or hearing.

    The House decided to proceed with its own hearing – the one currently in process. McCarthy submitted his member list. Pelosi declined a number of people. Both sides agreed that has never occurred before…even when the Repubs ran the Benghazi hearings. I posted that link (PBS) a while back.

    “You are like the guy who murdered his parents asking the court to show mercy because he’s an orphan.”

    No, your statement is diverting at best and flat out incorrect (lying) at worst.

    Minority leaders appoint their own members. The Majority leader doesn’t. Has zero to do with whether the Senate was in or out of some Commission that never organized.

  101. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Sure the J6 panel has credibility. The same way Adolph’s people Court did. It’s red meat for the indoctrinated. Adam Schiff is chair of all these hoaxes. He claims to have direct evidence of trump Russia collusion. I’m sure he’ll be releasing that any moment.

  102. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    And Phil Murphy set up a commission to investigate the covid nursing home deaths. I’m sure their findings will be damming. They should be released around the same time as Schiff s evidence.

  103. BidenIsTheGOAT says:

    Joe is the “big guy”. His cut was 10%on the deals that he brokered. The guy has been stealing from us for 50 years. Shocking, I know.

  104. OC1 says:

    leftwing-

    Republicans in the senate blocked the formation of a bipartisan “9/11” style commission in May.

    The senate released it’s own report on June 8 – but the senate’s investigation was limited to “security, planning and response failures” at the capitol.

    In June, Pelosi announced the house would investigate Jan 6. House repub leader McCarthy suggested 5 repubs for the commission; Pelosi rejected 2 (Reps Jordan and Banks) because those 2 had voted to overturn Electoral College results from two states, and supported a lawsuit to invalidate electoral results for other states. At that point, McCarthy pulled all his nominees, saying it had to be all or none.

    You can argue about whether it was right or not for Pelosi to reject those 2 Repubs, but McCarthy definately decided to take his ball and go home rather than make a good faith effort to get his appointees on the commitee.

  105. leftwing says:

    “You can argue about whether it was right or not for Pelosi to reject those 2 Repubs…”

    Not arguing about whether it was right or wrong which are subjective…simply stating the factual…Pelosi in an unprecedented move block Repubs from seating their own members of choice.

    “…but McCarthy definately decided to take his ball and go home rather than make a good faith effort to get his appointees on the commitee.”

    As anyone would given the fact above and the precedent..not to mention the obvious stacking of the deck…

    Same as the three conservative Supremes, this too will come back to bite Libs in the ass when the Rs retake the House.

  106. Fast Eddie says:

    Shit pants’ approval at 36% which really means he’s in the 20s:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-approval-falls-fourth-straight-220535943.html

    “Only 18% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction.”

  107. Bystander says:

    OC,

    The only question that matters – what if it was Hillary in 2016 ? You know the responses by cult would be different. They would have gallows ready. Benghazi was the biggest 3 year waste sham used as a political hit, which McCarthy acknowledged (her numbers are down afterall). This is absolute disgrace of trying to interfere with legitimate election. R after R is telling them that Trump and his R minions were corrupt insane liars who tried everything to threaten and bully our democracy. This is as bi-partisan as it gets. They will continue to stick fingers in ears, put heads up arse and swallow orange load and claim they are all RINOS. Asburd.

  108. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bystander,

    Never forget the hypocrisy. “Lock her up!” Yet, they defend trump trying to rig an election and take control of our govt.

  109. HangemHigh says:

    I’d be happy to see both Hillary and The Don sitting in Fort Dix for about 10 years. They could play bridge together.

  110. Bystander says:

    Turning down Trumpie, Big Lie moron Jim Jordan…sure, McCarthy was serious about investigation and Nancy was partisan. Christ, there is no logic here.

  111. Juice Box says:

    King Murphy just pitched the DNC National rules committee to move the NJ Primaries for 2024 from June to be one of the first in the nation.

  112. 3b says:

    Juice: Murphy, Newsom, Pritzker, the Democrats must want to lose the Presidency in 2024

  113. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m prob the only one, but I pray Murphy runs and wins the 2024 election.

    Why? Same reason I voted for him for this state. It would benefit me to have a President from NJ. Will be great for this state.

  114. joyce says:

    The smallest tip of 12,000 icebergs

    “If your state’s public sector health plan has had the same carrier for decades, perhaps you should question the public procurement processes and influence at play,” she continued. “I was unprepared for (the) absolute backlash I would face when I attempted to enforce the contractual terms agreed upon by Horizon BCBS; similarly I was shocked when I was told to ‘stand down’ when we asked NJ hospitals to confirm whether they were compliant with Federal transparency regulations.”
    https://www.nj.com/politics/2022/06/murphy-let-horizon-keep-34m-after-whistleblower-said-insurer-failed-to-deliver-on-contract-report-says.html

  115. Fabius Maximus says:

    Been offline for a while. But there are somethings that have to be addressed.

    ““fake electors…” Are those the ones heading into the barrel? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-justice-dept-delivers-subpoenas-trump-fake-electors-probe-reports-say-2022-06-23/

    Lot of people in here deliberately ignoring J6. I put it down to Cognitive Dissonance and general Dissociation. They cant compute that the GOP has gone so far off the reservation that they have nowhere left to go. They cant contemplate voting D, so they just mind blank.

    Donnies DOJ replacement pick Jeff Clark just got raided.

    The House select committee in particular zeroed in on the efforts of Rep. Scott Perry, the Pennsylvania Republican who connected Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark to the White House in December 2020.
    CNN has previously reported on the role that Perry played, and the committee in court filings released text messages Perry exchanged with White House chief of staff Mark Meadows about Clark.
    “He wanted Mr. Clark — Mr. Jeff Clark to take over the Department of Justice,” Cassidy Hutchinson, a former Meadows aide, said about Perry in a clip of her deposition that was played at Thursday’s hearing.”

  116. BRT says:

    you’re right, you are the only one.

  117. Fabius Maximus says:

    “I’d be happy to see both Hillary and The Don sitting in Fort Dix ”

    I know what I’m putting Donnie in there for, but what do you think you are putting Hillary in there for?

    Due Process!

  118. Fabius Maximus says:

    “Not arguing about whether it was right or wrong which are subjective…simply stating the factual…Pelosi in an unprecedented move block Repubs from seating their own members of choice.”

    No, she rejected them as they are going to be indicted in this.

    Here is a great thread on how Gym JorD is Fcuked!

    “https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1539929322169028608
    So Ohio’s scumbag Gym Jordan. Do you remember, immediately after January 6th, the one Congressman who had absolute manic fits about investigators looking into his phone data, was Jim Jordan? WHY was this? I can tell you”

    So yes Nancy refused to sit Coconspirators on the committee.

  119. Fabius Maximus says:

    3b / Juice,

    You had a fit on the RvW SCOTUS leak. Can I have your response to the the view that the John Eastman (#FallGuy) had the view of the inner deliberations of SCOTUS on 2020 challenges?

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/legal-scholars-are-shocked-by-ginni-thomass-stop-the-steal-texts

    #GOPHypocrisy

  120. Fabius Maximus says:

    “Rolling Stone @RollingStone
    The Jan. 6 committee displayed a bombshell email revealing that Rep. Mo Brooks emailed the White House 5 days after the attack on the Capitol asking for a pardon for himself and all 147 Republicans who voted to overturn the election.”

    Yea, Umm, There may have been a few of us and we … well lets not get into what we did. ,,,,, Hey we were .. well lets not get into that, but we are …….?

  121. Fabius Maximus says:

    Oh, I cant watch J6 hearings.

    Take 3.5 minutes out of you life for this.
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1540104870602186752

    But Hey, her emails, his laptop

  122. Fabius Maximus says:

    We were that close

    Steve Vladeck @steve_vladeck
    That January 3 Oval Office meeting was the inflection point.

    If it had ended with Clark as Acting AG and DOJ encouraging states to send new electors, 1/6 would have been much, much worse—and it’s quite possible things would’ve only deteriorated from there.

    We were *that* close.
    https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1540133319207256065

  123. Fabius Maximus says:

    https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1540077685413756929
    CSPAN @cspan
    Former Acting Deputy AG Richard Donoghue: “He responded very quickly and said, essentially, ‘That’s not what I’m asking you to do. What I’m just asking you to is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen.'”

  124. Fabius Maximus says:

    Fred Guttenberg @fred_guttenberg 16h
    I just drove through Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and North Carolina. Why is gas so much more expensive in Florida than in the other states? Is that something that
    @GovRonDeSantis has control over or not?

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