Fundamental Update

I was feverishly trying to find a graph of inflation adjusted wages to home prices yesterday, but wasn’t able to find a good graph. Was going through the Wall Street Journal today, and what do you know, one of the best yet..

I often find it very hard to explain these concepts to people using words or tables, it just doesn’t ‘click’. But when you take a look at a chart like this, it’s hard not to understand. The fact is, wages really haven’t risen substantially, and neither has rent. Population has not significant increased in the past five years, which means it’s highly unlikely there is a true supply issue.

Here is a link to the WSJ article, I didn’t particularly care for it, but since I used the graph, I might as well provide the link back..

What’s Behind the Boom

Caveat Emptor,

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10 Responses to Fundamental Update

  1. RentinginNJ says:

    One problem that I have with the NAR affordability index is that they automatically assume a 20% down payment, irrespective of income or home prices. This might be a somewhat reasonable assumption 10-15 years ago on a 200k house, especially when interest rates were high enough to give you meaningful interest on your savings. Today, you would need almost $100k for that 20% down payment on a home in North Jersey. Also today, interest on savings is negative. Meaning, if you put your money in a typical savings account (not recommended), the interest payments will not even keep up with inflation. You will actually be losing money.

  2. grim says:

    Here is a link to the NAR first time homebuyer affordability data..

    First-Time Homebuyer Affordability

    Take a look at the 2005 Q3 data.

    Starter home price 183k? 10% down? I’m not sure what planet there guys are at. Effective interest rate 5.8? Once this data factors in 6.5% rates affordability is going to go way down.

    Even looking at the monthly affordability data:

    Housing Affordability Index

    Look at the Northeast for September, 248k median home price? Sorry, try almost double that. Sure, I can believe the median family income of 64k if you factor in a 248k home price. Sorry, not in Northern New Jersey.


  3. my good friend just paid 225k for a 1 bedroom garden aparment that is very tiny in Parsippany. His maint. is 185 a month, plus 2950 taxes.

  4. grim says:

    And the real question is.. Why didn’t you stop him/her?


  5. chaoticchild says:

    i have a question with NAR affordability index chart.

    Did they change the downpayment variable from 20% to 10% for the last few years of the chart. So the affordability index actually went down for the 2 years when the house prices went up so much????

  6. chaoticchild says:

    njresident286 said…
    my good friend just paid 225k for a 1 bedroom garden aparment that is very tiny in Parsippany. His maint. is 185 a month, plus 2950 taxes.

    I know someone who bought a 3bed 2.5 baths townhouse in Morris Plains (next to Parsippany) for 500k over the summer. The same unit was listed for 420k in winter of 04. And he thought the price was fair 20% higher in 8 months. He said, “real estate can only go up and up in North Jersey because there are so many rich people here. And there are so many immigrants. North Jersey RE won’t even adjust with the raising rate.”

    When I told him some of the information (raisng inventory, flat salary for the last few years) i have been reading here. He was so shocked, he didn’t think it could be true.

  7. Anonymous says:

    I came across your site a few days ago and seems to be very helpful. I have been using the various sites to assess the price that a home/apt was bought but two other things that interested me and would appreciate if you could share some light on them

    1. Why do you think now is the worst time to buy a home? what are some of the down side. I was thinking that since the market is on the way down (and ofcourse no one can judge where and when the lowest point is), it would be a good way to “command” the price or as you say lowball.?

    2. You also mentioned somewhere that twice the inflation rate (max) should be price that one should pay for a house that was bought x years ago and not anything more. Well i am looking in Hoboken and there if i were to go by that there is no place to find one. My calculation has been.
    A. Find out the Price that the apt was bought for in whatever year
    B. Add the tax every year + whatever maintenance he has paid+ his 10% down (at say 5% growth every year). Add all this to inflation rate twice of the list price of the house – and that should give the price of the apt.
    It could potentially be a bit up or down depending on how hot the market (in terms of location – proximity to NYC etc).


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