NJ October Sales Up, Inventory Down

From the Otteau Group:

NJ Home Sales Rise for 14th Consecutive Month

Home purchase demand in New Jersey increased for the 14th consecutive month in October with more than 8,200 home-purchase contracts. This was the highest number of purchase contracts recorded in the month of October since 2005, reflecting a 9% increase compared to the same month one year ago.

While home purchase demand continues to rise, the inventory of available homes remains constrained in New Jersey. The number of homes being offered for sale in the month of October declined by more than 1,300 homes (-3%) compared to one year ago. This is about 21,000 (-29%) fewer homes on the market compared to the cyclical high in 2011. Today’s unsold inventory equates to 6.3 months of sales (non-seasonally adjusted), which is less than one year ago when it was 7.0 months.

Currently, 67% of New Jersey’s 21 counties have less than 8.0 months of supply, which is a balance point for home prices. Hudson, Union, Essex, Passaic and Somerset Counties are presently experiencing the strongest market conditions in the state with fewer than 5 months of supply, followed by Morris, Middlesex, Monmouth and Bergen Counties which all have fewer than 6 months of supply. All of the counties with an unsold inventory level equivalent to a supply of 12 months or greater are concentrated in the southern portion of the state including Cape May (13.1), Atlantic (14.5), Cumberland (15.0) and Salem (16.8).

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134 Responses to NJ October Sales Up, Inventory Down

  1. grim says:

    Disgruntled employee theory holds zero merit.

    Tactical gear, a small arsenal of weapons, explosive devices – maybe they had the guns, maybe they had the clothing, but the explosives? That’s not something you just put together in a hurry because of a workplace dispute. This sounds more like a situation waiting for an opportunity.

    Recently married in what sounds like surprise arrangement overseas, during an unexpected trip to Saudi Arabia, family wasn’t aware?

    The wife potentially dressed and also a shooter?

    If I was a conspiracy theorist, I’d immediately jump to the wife and this arrangement, a kind of Manchurian candidate brainwashing.

  2. grim says:

    From the Record:

    Police: Plot by Clifton 5th graders no prank, but device found was non-explosive

    Police said they detained five fifth-graders from School 11 after a plot to set off an explosive device at Clifton High School was discovered by school officials. However, a device recovered by police contained only cinnamon and vinegar. Still, police stressed that the students’ alleged plan was no prank.

    About 9:30 a.m. Wednesday, police received a call from school officials who said they had uncovered written plans by the fifth-graders to bring an explosive device to the high school during a field trip that was scheduled for later in the afternoon, said Detective Sgt. Robert Bracken, spokesman for the Police Department.

    The students from the Merselis Avenue elementary school were to attend an event at the high school, which was canceled following the discovery.

    Police discovered a device, which was not explosive and included a mixture of cinnamon and vinegar, Bracken said. This was definitely not a prank, the sergeant said, adding the children’s intention was to carry out the plan.

    “They didn’t have the right equipment, but the intent was there,” Bracken said. “This is very disturbing,” he said, and added that the situation is under investigation, as is the motive.

  3. grim says:

    School 11.. is this going where I think it’s going?

  4. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [1] grim

    CNN still holding to Administration line. But this is not unprecedented; the Fort Hood shooting was “workplace violence”, remember? Nope, no radical Muslims in Obamaland.

  5. Essex says:

    …and then there is this POS…

    Pistorius’ family gave a brief response, saying lawyers are studying the finding who will advise them on “options going forward”.
    Reading the ruling reached by a panel of five judges, Justice Eric Leach said that having armed himself with a high-calibre weapon, Pistorius must have foreseen that whoever was behind the door might die.
    “As a matter of common sense at the time the fatal shots were fired, the possibility of the death of the person behind the door was clearly an obvious result.
    “And in firing not one but four shots, such a result became even more likely,” the judge said.
    Pistorius always maintained that he believed there was an intruder in the house but the judge said that the identity of the person behind the door was “irrelevant to his guilt”.
    Justice Leach compared it to someone setting off a bomb in a public place not knowing who the victims might be.

  6. Comrade Nom Deplume, screwing around at work says:

    Fox News and some outlets that probably pick it up now reporting that Farook and his wife had GoPros on their chests. This isn’t being reported by liberal media so it is still an open question.

    If true, that tends to scuttle the whole workplace violence angle. Astonishingly, some are still maintaining that it is, and that Farook was set off at the party.

    Even I don’t keep ARs, tac gear, and pipe bombs in my car on the off chance that someone will piss me off. Don’t know about Splat though. Hmmm.

  7. Essex says:

    6. You lightweight….

  8. D-FENS says:

    Everyone has an agenda in life, and will look at the situation in San Bernardino and shape it to make it agree with their worldview.

    Maybe it’s just more workplace violence by somebody who just happened to be muslim and the proposed solution is “gun control”…er sorry, “common sense gun safety”. Think assault weapons bans, 10 round magazine limits, terrorist watch list added to NICS, more “gun free” zones, etc.

    Others will say it is terrorism and will want more surveillance…and will use it to confirm their Xenophobia…

    Whatever happens…it won’t be good for you and me.

  9. Essex says:

    8. Actually. If this opens honest dialogue it might help secure the Country. Let’s also take an honest look at Saudi Arabia.

  10. Comrade Nom Deplume, screwing around at work says:

    [8] DFENS

    Agreed. Though the preparation alone suggests rather strongly that this guy didn’t just snap at a party and go off. Anyone who thinks that truly has an agenda, and one they are pushing hard.

    [6] SX

    I am reminded of a story, probably apocryphal, about an NFLPA picnic or some event that was attended by Sam “Bam” Cunningham of the Patriots, and OJ Simpson of the Bills. Sam apparently had a small lapdog or “purse dog” of some sort, and OJ was giving him sh1te about it. OJ, by contrast, had large breed dogs, and was apparently advancing the point that large dogs were manly and small dogs were, well, not.

    Cunningham (who was larger than OJ) reportedly got in OJ’s face and in a low voice grumbled “I don’t need a big dog.”

  11. D-FENS says:

    9 – I followed coverage on CNN and listened to Hannity for about 2 minutes on the way home in the car yesterday. Right away Hannity said islamic terrorism. That may turn out to be a lucky guess but we had no reason to suspect that at the time. Switched to WABC, and they were broadcasting CNN’s coverage….one of the expert guests they had on immediately speculated it was anti-government militia people and called it domestic terrorism.

    If people on the red team and the blue team can’t even agree on what happened, I think there’s little chance of any good coming from this.

  12. grim says:

    My first inclination was that this was gang retaliation, not terrorism.

  13. D-FENS says:

    Now this morning on the radio…they’re reporting “the guns were bought legally”.

    I don’t know what they used, but doesn’t CA have fairly strict gun control? With their current legislature and Brown as governor, they must have an assault weapons ban in CA right? I don’t know what the laws are there.

  14. D-FENS says:

    Because this detail is being widely reported, I’m guessing the next thing we’ll hear is that we need a nation wide Assault weapons ban.

  15. nwnj3 says:

    How long will it be before the go pro vids hit the media? Some time today after appropriate editing I suppose. It’s too bad these two weren’t holed up with their entire extended family and all exterminated at the same time.

  16. Grim says:

    Never, if they exist the FBI has them.

  17. nwnj3 says:

    Didn’t they go back to their home after the first incident? I would assume they uploaded them.

  18. anon (the good one) says:

    “America’s problem with gun violence is bigger than most people realize.

    Here is a sobering fact: The number of Americans who died from gunshot wounds in the last decade — more than 300,000 — exceeds the nation’s total combat fatalities in World War II.

    Gun deaths in the U.S. today are almost as frequent as deaths from traffic accidents, as this graph shows. Yet the United States isn’t an especially violent country, judged by statistics on general assaults. It’s the rate of gun deaths, specifically, that outstrips that of any other developed nation.”

  19. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [18] anon,

    Judging by the fact that you are posting, you are not as yet among the victims.

    [sentiment redacted]

  20. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [13] DFENS

    That is correct, Cali has fairly strict gun laws. Other states don’t and the guns could have been purchased “legally” elsewhere, but the sale or transfer to Farook could have been illegal, as was his possession of them.

    In NJ, that would be the law. Both the sale/transfer and possession would have been illegal. However, not a Cali lawyer so I reserve judgment.

    As for a nationwide ban, I am now kicking myself for not buying that SW M&P AR that was on sale at Cabela’s. Thought about it but decided I didn’t need it. I could probably sell it today for 50% profit.

  21. D-FENS says:

    18 – Oh boy here we go.

    Anon, what’s that number like when you remove “gun deaths” that are suicides?

  22. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [15] nwnj

    Understand that the existence of videos, and even the fact that they may have had GoPros, cuts against the administration narrative. They would probably like to say that this was workplace violence though it should be clear that dog won’t hunt. Discussion of Islamoterrorism is a no-no, as has been well documented.

    Interesting that Fox refused to toe the admin line; they risk cred by putting it out without confirmation but no less so than CNN, which within a minute of a police conference saying that weapons and motive were unknown, said that AK-47s were “probably” used and that the shooters were likely “anti-government or militia types”

    I don’t always care for Fox reporting, and its zeal to beat MSM to the story has shown trip-ups at times, but they are an effective counter to the NBC/CNN bloc, which always seems to carry the administration’s water. While I could do without the color, they will report what MSM won’t.

  23. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [22] redux,

    Interestingly, this puts the FBI and the administration in a bit of a bind. If they take possession of all the evidence, then it becomes an Islamoterrorism investigation. Otherwise, it is a local crime and jurisdiction, and the FBI must back out and turn over evidence to local/state authorities.

    If the GoPros are acknowledged, the admin has to acknowledge the possibility of Islamoterror, something they don’t want to do. However, if they never surface and the FBI says “what cameras?”, that will toss a 5 gal bucket of gasoline on the conspiracy theory fire.

  24. grim says:

    I didn’t think they actually returned home, only drove past after the police had already arrived. Also interesting – was this a rookie move, or were they trying to engage.

  25. Ragnar says:

    Funny how quick CNN is to name races when white people shoot blacks, but in every other racial combination CNN (and other news organization that know the PC rules) finds that detail extremely unimportant.
    So when hours of reporting didn’t cough up one hint of race, I had to guess the shooters were of some PC-favored minority group. Quickly confirmed by internet stories that it was done by a religious Islamic guy.
    I think it was workplace violence. This guy’s coworkers weren’t cooperating with his project of creating a global caliphate, and undoubtedly were committing microaggressions toward him.

  26. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [26] ragnar,

    “So when hours of reporting didn’t cough up one hint of race, I had to guess the shooters were of some PC-favored minority group”

    That’s been true of crime-reporting since the early 90’s at least. It’s always been well known that if the crime was one where the race would have been known, but the report goes light on information and doesn’t identify race, then it was a minority perp.

    Sadly, its a lot like affirmative action–by denying the very existence of problem actors within a class, you disparage the entire class. I’ve known exceptionally well qualified black men who hate AA because, in their view, they are perceived as AA hires and therefore unqualified. So, ironically, you perpetuate the very stereotype you are trying to dispel. But at least you accomplished a redistributionist and social justice goal.

  27. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [25] grim,

    I’m going with rookie. And so will the administration. You cannot as easily argue for gun control if the perps were well-trained and supported. But if they are rookies who could easily obtain guns and learn off the internet, well, that’s a different story.

    Here at least the facts support it so the administration won’t have to contort to push its narrative.

    Wonder where the GoPros will wind up?

  28. chicagofinance says:

    If it is simple stuff….I can consult gratis…..I will call in a few favors if you need more difficult one offs…………as I mentioned to ex-Pat once…… distinguish whether you need a lawyer or a CPA…..the CPA comes far cheaper…..if it is a CPA, I know people who will charge you regular rates….not funeral home/wedding reception rates…..

    phoenix1 says:
    December 2, 2015 at 10:54 pm
    CND, Know anyone that handles estate law? PM me if so.

  29. chicagofinance says:


    Essex says:
    December 3, 2015 at 7:29 am
    6. You lightweight….

  30. chicagofinance says:

    “Muslim newlyweds slaughter co-workers who threw them a baby shower”

    I guess going for the cheaper Baby Bjorn was the wrong move….

  31. Fast Eddie says:

    Welcome to California, you may get shot here or marry a cross dressing gun control advocate. But look on the bright side, you get an Obama phone for free.

    I just read this comment. Fitting.

  32. Fast Eddie says:

    By the way, when do those “refugees” arrive?

  33. joyce says:

    What’s the number when you remove inner city gang bangers?

    D-FENS says:

    December 3, 2015 at 8:40 am

    18 – Oh boy here we go.

    Anon, what’s that number like when you remove “gun deaths” that are suicides?

  34. Trapper Dan says:

    They were obviously trained for this mission and the FBI has said there are other actors they are looking for.

    For example a Saudi Arabian woman does not know how to drive. Where did she get the training to out run the police in that SUV, while her husband was in the passenger firing at police?

  35. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    There’s been horrible 100 year flooding in Southeast India lately. The death toll is up to 250 now. It’s been especially hard on Chennai where I have a dotted line to an excellent team. They’ve been without power on and off for the past few days, hence my team in New York has really had to perform. Though the bigger problem is not having a way for them to get into work. Heck the airport is closed through the 6th. I sympathize for the 14 who lost their lives in San Bernadino, but I really feel for the many dead in Southeast India.

  36. grim says:

    Same impact to our Chennai ops, we’re taking care of our people out there. We had a number of people stuck on site, and we’ve managed to arrange transport home for a number of others with very large vehicles. We have enough generator capacity to last us another two weeks.

  37. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Have you seen this photo of the airport under 7 feet of water?


  38. Libturd supporting the Canklephate says:

    Wow…2 weeks. We have 24 hour generators. Power is back on at the site, but until the rain stops, everyone is afraid of getting stuck at work.

  39. Trapper Dan says:

    re: Chennai flooding.

    Interesting story here. You can see pictures from 15 years ago compared to today. They massively overbuilt the place.


  40. Fast Eddie says:

    I fear and weep for our nation. True leadership is as void as a black hole. We have no one to energize, guide and influence us. The country I have known and was so proud of doesn’t seem to exist any longer.

  41. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [35] Trapper Dan

    Driving, that’s a great point and a good catch.

    For the anonunists keeping score and pointing out how conservative the CO PP shooter must have been, this from Farook’s online profile (as reported by ABC, an MSM outlet):

    “Another profile portrayed a man trying to balance his faith and modern life.

    “I try to live as a good Muslim,” Farook writes. “Looking for a girl who has the same outlook, wear hijab, but live the life to the fullest.”

    On the same page, Farook preaches his love of snowboarding, camping, and working on cars, and further describes his personality as cautious, reserved, skeptical and very liberal.”

  42. grim says:

    Unfortunately, Trump will fill that hole. Given recent events, it seems like a lock.

  43. Xolepa says:

    (37) …..where I have a dotted line….

    Watch out. That’s a microaggression.

  44. D-FENS says:


    Obama’s ISIS Oil Scandal Deepens As Russia Produces Stunning Photographic Evidence


  45. grim says:

    God help us if it leaks that those kids in Clifton are Arabic – Trump will be all over that. It fits his world view and turns his idiotic bungle into something much more powerful.

  46. Trapper Dan says:

    re: # Obama is already ahead of this, he stated the other day that Turkey/Erdoğan must stop the flow of oil out and fighters in.

  47. Trapper Dan says:

    Speaking of Turkey. Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson has chimed in.


  48. Trapper Dan says:

    re: Clifton – When we had fireworks as kids which was every year without fail, we would cut them open and make bigger fireworks. Don’t call it a bomb, even though it was in a pipe when finished, it was just bigger fireworks.

  49. Grim says:

    Look the kids were idiots, no doubt.

  50. chicagofinance says:

    I think I know that exact building…..down the street from a Sunoco where I used to get my car fixed…….it is right by Journal Square and the Tonnelle Circle…..

    D-FENS says:
    December 3, 2015 at 9:58 am
    CBS Reports ‘Swarm’ On Rooftops Celebrating 9/11

    (in Jersey City)


  51. chicagofinance says:

    so witty……

    Xolepa says:
    December 3, 2015 at 10:25 am
    (37) …..where I have a dotted line….

    Watch out. That’s a microaggression.

  52. D-FENS says:

    52 – Politifact still lists him as a pants on fire liar.

    I don’t know what to believe anymore.

  53. anon (the good one) says:


    Total Number of Incidents 48,300
    Number of Deaths 12,220
    Number of Injuries 24,717

    Number of Children (age 0-11) Killed/Injured 640

    Number of Teens (age 12-17) Killed/Injured 2,422

    Mass Shooting 310

    Accidental Shooting 1,748

    Gun violence incidents collected/validated from 1200+ sources daily – source links on each incident report.

    1: Actual number of deaths and injuries
    2: Number of INCIDENTS reported and verified

    Numbers on this table reflect a subset of all information
    collected and will not add to 100% of incidents.

    http://www.gunviolencearchive.org http://www.facebook.com/gunviolencearchive

  54. D-FENS says:

    55 –

    That’s terrible Anon. Thankfully non-partisan polling and fact gathering organization shows us that firearm crimes and deaths are on the decline.

    Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware


  55. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    New York times reports:
    Investigators on Thursday hunted for a motive in the backgrounds of a husband and wife suspected in a shooting rampage that left 14 dead and 17 others wounded here, while federal agents traced the origins of the four guns recovered from the suspects — at least two of them bought legally — and officers combed through a sprawling set of crime scenes for evidence.

    Hmmm… If I were an investigator where would I start?

  56. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Maybe the left should run should try out some of their proposed gun control legislation in Syria. If it works there, it’ll probably work anywhere.

  57. Ragnar says:

    Libturd, you let a huge moneymaking opportunity go down the drain yesterday! You could have auctioned that Obama-dookie to the Obamunists for big money.

    “I just took a great big office krap. Usually I sh1t at home but my schedules a bit off these days. Prior to flushing, I always take a peak at my handiwork. The way the toilet paper fell into place, it looked exactly like President Obama in a tuxedo.”

    “A decade-old toasted cheese sandwich said to bear an image of the Virgin Mary has sold on the eBay auction website for $28,000.”

  58. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    grim – as posted yesterday, my first inclination was “large enough crowd, easy enough targets – ala Paris.” The only thing I wondered about was lack of video. The jihadi crowd speaks so many dialects of so many different languages that only video sells to their masses. Mass carnage with video is their ad strategy. Gopro cameras might be the new wrinkle. They probably ran home to upload video.

    My first inclination was that this was gang retaliation, not terrorism.

  59. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    ^^^ forgot to mention illiterate. Need video, print news won’t do.

  60. leftwing says:

    55. anon

    So what? Perspective.

    Take the total number of deaths from guns, all causes. Biggest number possible. One gangbanger blasting another away. Some id1ot blowing away his hunting partner thinking him a deer. It’s 12,200.

    That’s 0.004% of the population.

    Take the high profile mass shootings. 310 total. People killed by a handful of jack0ffs disaffected for a variety of reasons, disease or social.

    That’s 0.0001% of the population.

    The number of mass killings nationwide is less than the number of highway fatalities (494). In NJ alone.

    Small numbers.

    Sh1t happens.

    The number of these fatalities will never be zero. The unexpected loss of a loved one – to murder, auto accident, train derailment, tower collapse, brain aneurysm, SIDS, or anything else – is extremely hard on the family affected and potentially a life changing event. Undoubtedly. Statistically though, it will happen. Hopefully not to you, or your loved ones, but as assuredly as the sun will rise in the east it will happen. We are a big country with a lot of people.

    The real question to society, and measure of leadership, is how one responds. Will our leaders pander to the lowest common denominators of fear and anger, or rise above?

    You can try to reduce the 310 deaths from mass shootings (or the 494 vehicular deaths). That is not the hard part. The hard part, where actual leadership is required rather than finger wagging by the Lecturer-in-Chief, is trying to do so while respecting the impact on the other 309,999,690 American citizens.

  61. Essex says:

    10. Word.

  62. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Rags, do you have access to the entire article? I would appreciate it if you could share the rest of this article with me.


  63. A Home Buyer says:

    34 – Joyce,

    Per this article, 15 of 30 firearm homicides victims per day are black.

    The general idea of the article is that black on black murders are being ignored from the gun debate. They also suggest that somewhere around 150 or so gang members are the major offenders in each city. Targeting them with out reach programs often results in large decreases in crime with almost minimal cost and also with no other restriction on legal firearms owners.


  64. D-FENS says:

    Vaughn Sterling ‏@vplus 29m29 minutes ago
    CNN BREAKING: Law enforcement sources say it appears Syed Farook was radicalized -@evanperez

  65. D-FENS says:

    CNN BREAKING: Farook was in touch with more than one international terrorism subjects -@evanperez

  66. The Great Pumpkin says:

    64- Btw, this article is really enlightening. I can’t believe how naive I was. Collectivism is a joke and I was one of the biggest proponents of that ideology. Not proud.


  67. D-FENS says:

    Whoops scratch that…..er I mean workplace violence

    Vaughn Sterling Retweeted
    Ram Ramgopal ‏@RamCNN 25m25 minutes ago
    Ram Ramgopal Retweeted Vaughn Sterling
    Other sources: Farook in touch with more than 1 intl. terrorism subject. Plus workplace grievances may have had role

  68. The Original NJ ExPat says:


    The general idea of the article is that black on black murders are being ignored from the gun debate.

  69. leftwing says:

    Probably as off topic as one can be…..but any thoughts appreciated

    Ex-wife’s aunt passed after a long illness. Services upcoming. Relation with ex-wife since divorce is up and down, the divorce wasn’t easy and was recent. Relation with one sibling of hers solid before, during, and after. Other sibling, eh. Everyones’ relation with aunt not particularly close, elderly and she lived out of state.

    Ex did inform me of the passing.

    Do I acknowledge the passing and if so how? I would not consider attending any service/viewing as appropriate. Still too much sting from the recent divorce, I wasn’t close with the deceased, and I would be afraid my presence would cause discomfort especially since I would expect a small viewing/funeral (nowhere to hide).

    Do I send an arrangement to the funeral parlor? Or just sympathy cards to wife and sibling I’m close with? Anything at all?

    Not finding anything on Miss Manners……

  70. 1987 Condo says:

    Cards with handwritten note

  71. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Co-worker Patrick Baccari told the Los Angeles Times that Farook, who was Muslim, recently visited Saudi Arabia to meet a woman he met online.

    They returned as husband and wife.

    Even the Muslims are getting into credit trouble. Instead of working hard and waiting to get 72 virgins in heaven they’d rather have one low mileage virgin on credit.

  72. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    In a news conference Thursday morning, President Obama said, “It is possible that this was terrorist related, but we don’t know.”

    Rahm Emanuel advised the president not to release anything until mid-November.

  73. nwnj3 says:

    Exactly why it’s completely reckless to let any mass migration to occur due to the civil war. You can vet any of the immigrants now for whatever terror links that you want, that doesn’t mean anything. What happens in 5 years when there are large communities of disenfranchised? Better to slam the door shut now.

    Vaughn Sterling ‏@vplus 29m29 minutes ago
    CNN BREAKING: Law enforcement sources say it appears Syed Farook was radicalized -@evanperez

  74. grim says:

    Co-worker Patrick Baccari told the Los Angeles Times that Farook, who was Muslim, recently visited Saudi Arabia to meet a woman he met online.

    Ding ding ding ding – winner winner chicken dinner.

  75. grim says:

    We’re going from pussy whipped to pussy radicalized?

  76. phoenix1 says:

    8 D-Fens,
    I agree. The guns he used, the explosives, the gopro,- still could be a workplace issue.
    Its the religion, the travel history, etc which makes the leap from workplace to terrorism a possibility.
    Now you have all bases covered- so expect increased calls for gun control, intercepting communications, etc.

    Amazing crap to deal with when life can be so short. So many people get shortchanged by unlucky genetics, parents that taught bad habits, accidents, etc.
    Pathetic thing is it’s usually the good guys that get the brunt of something like this.
    Most glaring example was Sandy Hook. The pathology out there is astonishing……

  77. phoenix1 says:

    77 Grim,
    So what? Met someone online. The thing is he targeted his co-workers, not a sports venue, a shopping mall, etc. He had an agenda with those people-sounds personal to me. Quote from article stated ” there were lots of people in the department unhappy with management.”

    The future is going to be interesting.

  78. Xolepa says:

    (53) Chicago

    Microagressions are now a way of life. Just yesterday, my daughter’s college allowed a local mayoral candidate and his entourage to solicit votes on campus. Perhaps, nothing new. However, my daughter was harassed to no end by the group. Harassed enough to call me about the incident. I said “shall I call Administration?” She said no, no, no. God forbid she gets on the black list. She’s presenting her senior thesis in two weeks.

    Hmmm, I wonder what side of the political coin this fella belonged.

  79. phoenix1 says:

    CMD Thanks,
    Still trying to wrap around some issues here. Hope one day to meet you and Chifi at a get together, will fill you in a bit if it occurs.
    Off to the salt mines now…..

  80. 1987 Condo says:

    Between Shootings yesterday (and they had a baby?!) and watching Racing Extinction I am quite depressed for my children’s future.

    Someone brought up France yesterday, thanks again for denying our air force access to your air space in 1986…I did not forget,

  81. D-FENS says:

    has anyone been on NJ.com today? Bloomberg’s gun control group, everytown, has purchased every single ad for sale on the site asking people to write their representative and ask them to override his gun control veto.

  82. Fabius Maximus says:

    #84 1987

    Dropping the baby off at Grandmas is just one more piece of this that just doesn’t fit a simple narrative. Personally I put this more to the workplace side. Lots of Monday morning quarterbacking and people looking for what they want to see. It will be better to wait and see what other information develops.

    I suspect the wife will show up more on the side of subservient compliant than La Femme Nikita.

  83. grim says:

    You are nuts.

  84. nwnj3 says:

    He’s an ideologue. For all intents and purposes, he should be treated like he’s nuts.

  85. grim says:

    Makes perfect sense to be plain and simple workplace violence.

    But … they just found 12 more pipe bombs at his residence.

    How does that weave into this? Kind of hard to fit that bit in.

    Also hard to fit in the fact that they left a bomb with remote control car detonator on it in the building, a fairly common technique taught on these jihad websites.

  86. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Going Muslim == The new “Going Postal”. Tag. You’re it.

  87. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Obviously the NRA paid off someone to plant them there.

    But … they just found 12 more pipe bombs at his residence.

  88. A Home Buyer says:

    89 –

    Nah, I think it is perfectly clear actually.

    His wife left them in his house by accident. When he realized her mistake and they ran out of them, they had to head back to their residence to get the rest of them. That way they could head back to the convention center to continue what they started.

    There was nooooooo way they were going to use those anywhere else but the convention center.

    You need to take off your blinders.

  89. 1987 Condo says:

    How about they were going back to get them to do damage elsewhere, after they handled a “personal” matter first…

  90. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    His Secret Santa probably gave him pork rinds for a gift.

  91. nwnj3 says:

    Sounds like he was running around with a hairpin temper planning to go full jihad. Someone must have insulted he and his ladies sensibilities so they used that opportunity to launch their plan.

  92. Marilyn says:

    94 HAHA!!

  93. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Amazon is going to stream holograms to your living room, and they’ve got the patents now too.


  94. Fabius Maximus says:

    #95 nwnj3

    That’s the most sensible suggestionI have heard so far.

    Grim, the only thing the pipes show for sure is that he’s smarter than a 5th grader from Clifton. The who, where what they were to be used for is still to be determined. Maybe it was for these same people, maybe something else. Body Armor has been walked back so we are down to black clothes. Arab woman in black clothes there’s a surprise. Maybe you are right and we have Jihad Jane. Maybe we have Micky and Mallory, at this point we don’t know.
    At this point I am waiting for the CCTV footage and the forensics to come out. I’ll leave you to your mat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qiw3vVy_eN8

  95. joyce says:

    You’re just being a Monday morning quarterback and looking for what you want to see. It would be better to wait and see what other information develops.

    Fabius Maximus says:

    Personally I put this more to the workplace side.

  96. Seems to me everybody really got their Daily Koz/DU/etc. marching orders today — praying for someone who has suffered a loss is evil. Because compassion for your fellow citizens, or something.

  97. Essex says:

    theories? some weird hybrid sociopathic, Muslim, Sorry SOB…..with pipe bombs. IRA sh*t there. Just heard a sheriff Upstate (NY) call for those w/ carry permits to ….carry.

  98. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Sad Max – There is not denying that the turd was a Muslim Terrorist, the only question is whether he was affiliated with a larger terrorist cell organization.

    From the AP:

    A friend says a man who was killed in the rampage at a Southern California social service center worked with one of the shooters and they had a heated conversation about Islam two weeks before the attack.

    It’s not clear if the discussion was a factor in the attack.

    Kuuleme Stephens says she happened to call 52-year-old Nicholas Thalasinos while he was at work and having a discussion with Syed Farook.

    Thalasinos identified Farook by name and told her Farook believed Islam was a peaceful religion.

    She added that Farook said Americans don’t understand Islam.

    Stephens says both men worked as county restaurant inspectors and regularly discussed politics and religion. Thalasinos identified as a Messianic Jew and was passionate about pro-Israel causes.

    Thalasinos’ wife, Jennifer Thalasinos, told The New York Times that her husband had talked about Farook but never said anything negative.


  99. Hughesrep says:


    Not evil. Just useless.

    If it makes you feel better go for it. Just realize that it does nothing about solving the problem.

    Pray in one hand….

  100. Essex says:

    101. yeah. it’s a nice gesture, but when some asshole in a leadership position has nothing more to say than….say hour prayers….? That leader is pretty much a useful f*ck.

  101. Essex says:

    the question remains….is this just bad timing for Islam, or are we about to get medieval on their asses?? WWDD — What Would Donald Do?

  102. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    [100] Joyce

    The workplace narrative is very important to the administration and the gun grabbers. Works like this: radicalized Muslims, well there aren’t many and it’s a freak thing. Not enough of a threat to justify running roughshod over an enumerated right. But workplace violence? That’s a different breed. We all work and work with people who can become disgruntled. We can see ourselves there. That makes gun control more of an imperative to more people. Or so goes the reasoning.

    Do not look for the administration to drop this, even as the narrative starts to crumble. Even though there is no evidence he was disgruntled, the left will argue that there is no evidence he wasn’t.

    Right Rory?

  103. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    As for why the workplace event, well, he had 200 people in a confined space and knew when they would be there, and knew security would be nil.

    Where else in San Bernardino do you get that kind of a target? A mall? There’s cops at malls.

    And it was an infidel holiday party. Double bonus.

  104. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    Still waiting for some c*nt to tell me that my last two posts are delusional. But make it quick. I’m not staying up for third shift.

  105. SX [105];

    Princess O won’t even speak the work “Islam” in the same speech as terrorism. If you want to talk about weak leadership, start at 1600 Penn. OBL himself said the Muslim world was emboldened to strike against the “Weak Horse”. Are we weaker or stronger under Princess O?

  106. Goddamit. Grim gets to say “p#ssy” here, but it throws me into moderation?

  107. gluteus, for the sake of all of us, I hope some radicalized nutjob blows your brains out. While you’re hugging him.

  108. It IS possible that this turdbolt was both radicalized and batshit crazy. They do kinda go hand-in-hand.

    Gonna go out on a limb and figure that his new Saudi mail-order bride wasn’t a soothing influence in his life, either.

  109. Fabius Maximus says:

    #112 Clot

    I grew up with radicalized nutjobs trying to do exactly that. Gives me a slightly different view on life.

  110. Fabius Maximus says:

    #113 Clot

    The best thing you have posted in years.

  111. Hughesrep says:

    I still think the fact that Pumpkin just got exposed to Ayn Rand is scarier then any other event this week.

    Someone get him Lord of The Rings ASAP.

  112. Ragnar says:

    I don’t think this will last long.
    But if he can start thinking rationally with his own mind, more power to him.
    My advice to him – more reading, more questioning and thinking, less posting.

  113. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You are right, don’t know what I was thinking. Time to come back to reality. When you get called an idiot enough, you start to question your thinking process. I’m for the greater good, and that does not involve worshipping the individual. Can’t let these people get to me. Nothing wrong with my thought process. If it means being called a troll and an idiot, so be it. I am what I am. I truly am seeking the truth, and the more I search, the more I realize no one knows what the fu!k they are talking about. People just buy into whatever they want to believe, and then try to find people that agree with them. So you have all these groups and ideologies fighting over who is right, yet no one really has the answer. I’m young, but I’m learning.

    Hughesrep says:
    December 3, 2015 at 10:17 pm
    I still think the fact that Pumpkin just got exposed to Ayn Rand is scarier then any other event this week.

    Someone get him Lord of The Rings ASAP.

  114. joyce says:


    1) Trump is said to be doubling and tripling down when he’s accused of making a false statement. That’s what you did, and that’s why I found it funny that you continuously post negative articles about Trump yet you employ his “tactic.”
    2) Did you even read your article? It said, “…seemed to go down surprisingly well with his audience.” I guess the author was offended as well as telling everyone we have to be offended too.
    3) I will triple down and say, no matter how critical I am of others, you continue to be the most feebleminded person here.

  115. joyce says:

    Only lasted for another 6 minutes beyond this post.

    Ragnar says:
    December 3, 2015 at 10:36 pm
    I don’t think this will last long.

  116. Fabius Maximus says:

    #121 Joyce

    1) Show me where I have doubled down on a false statement. Then show me a positive article on Trump that’s worth posting. The biggest issue here is not Trump but the lack of a credible opposition to O and Hillary from within the GOP.
    2) https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/672466353291460608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
    Trump doubles down at RJC: “I don’t know that Israel has the commitment to make it” You can hear a pin drop
    3) Whatever

  117. leftwing says:


    Yeah brilliant.

    Continue to make it even less attractive for companies to operate here.

    I truly hope Pfizer has a monster new plant for some next generation biotech in the works, few thousand employment, and it goes to Ireland, the Bay Area, or some other jurisdiction without its head up its arse.

    Then everyone here in NJ can pat themselves on the back. “We showed them!!”. Idiots, LOL.

  118. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Still, if I had a teenager in my household who was getting hooked on Rand, I would sit the kid down for a friendly but serious talk. I would say that any attempt to explain the world in simple, absolutist terms is bound to fail – and, more important, is bound to constrict an individual’s intellectual and personal growth. I would say that a philosophy, like any theory, is only a road map, and a road map can never be more than a thumbnail sketch of the reality it represents, a rough approximation, with nearly all of the details, texture, subtleties, and ambiguities omitted. I would say that we learn the meaning of life not by acting out the lives of fictional characters or swallowing the predigested conclusions of another thinker, but rather by living our own lives, making our own observations, having our own experiences, making our own mistakes, and coming to our own conclusions in the fullness of time.

    And I would say that while it can help to have a guide in this journey, there are better guides to choose than Ayn Rand.”


  119. The Great Pumpkin says:

    125- Essay is worth reading. Author was a diehard objectionist and then grew away from that ideology.

    “Believe it or not, there are people even worse off than I was. In the most extreme cases, ultra-rationalistic Objectivists can become outright caricatures, spouting quotations from Ayn Rand’s writings and posturing as thin copies of her fictional heroes. It is for these people – robots programmed by Objectivist dogma – that the libertarian essayist Roy Childs coined the wickedly accurate term “Randroids.””

  120. joyce says:

    Two days ago.

  121. Ragnar says:

    When people repeat things dogmatically without first hand knowledge of what they are talking about, it’s easy to flip from one un-integrated set of parroted slogans to another set.
    Pumpkin has that mastered.

  122. The Great Pumpkin says:

    124- “In the meantime, Pfizer executives are actually trying to sell this as a good deal for the United States. They’re excusing their blatant tax avoidance with the tired old promise that the money saved and increased profits of its shareholders will —you guessed it — create new jobs. Pfizer, which recently took in more revenue than any other pharmaceutical company in the world, says it needs to pay less in corporate taxes in order to remain competitive.

    Please. The reason we have corporate taxes in the first place is because companies like Pfizer directly benefit from public spending in America. Pfizer profits from government research on drugs and patent protections. The main ingredient in its arthritis drug, Xeljanz, was discovered by a government scientist in a taxpayer-funded laboratory and given to Pfizer for further development and licensing. Now Pfizer is selling the drug for nearly $25,000 per patient per year.

    Even absent deals like that, its workforce is educated in our public schools. Its employees take public roads and transportation to their jobs. These are all things that Pfizer is now not paying its fair share for. Where is the taxpayer’s return on these investments?

    When even billionaire Donald Trump calls this “disgusting,” you know the sleaziness must be clear. Hillary Clinton has denounced the deal. So has Bernie Sanders. But when will our lawmakers stop fiddling around and fix this?”

  123. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Only part you missed, I was trying to be open minded. You tend to jump around and not adhere to one thought process when you are open minded.

    Ragnar says:
    December 4, 2015 at 12:02 am
    When people repeat things dogmatically without first hand knowledge of what they are talking about, it’s easy to flip from one un-integrated set of parroted slogans to another set.
    Pumpkin has that mastered.

  124. leftwing says:

    Pfizer has no obligation to provide any explanation.

    The US is the pig at the trough.

    FACT: US corporate tax rates are unfavorably high.
    FACT: US is one of few jurisdictions trying to tax corporations in other countries.
    FACT: Pfizer pays full taxes on all its ops in the US and will continue to do so

    Pfizer is running away from that gluttonous pig wallowing in its own slop that is the US government.

    It is the US government that should be justifying its actions, not Pfizer.

  125. leftwing says:

    The companies and technologies of the future run from this country. The bedrock industry of this State, providing well paying jobs and attracting top talent, flees the State.

    But, hey, the good news……

    The hometown salted swine scrap company may add another shift. Woohoo! More taxes, more taxes, more taxes……


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