NJ has a bigger lead problem than Flint

From the Star Ledger:

Why 11 N.J. cities have more lead-affected kids than Flint, Michigan

Eleven cities in New Jersey, and two counties, have a higher proportion of young children with dangerous lead levels than Flint, Mich., does, according to New Jersey and Michigan statistics cited by a community advocacy group.

With the eyes of the nation focused on the brain damage and other problems associated with lead-contaminated water in Flint, several community advocacy organizations in New Jersey banded together this week to draw attention to New Jersey’s lead problem, asking for a renewed focus on solving it.

In New Jersey, children 6 years of age and younger have continued to ingest lead from paint in windows, doors and other woodwork found in older homes, particularly in older, poorer cities, said Elyse Pivnick, director of environmental health for Isles, Inc., a community development organization based in Trenton.

“In light of the Flint debacle, we wanted people to understand that water is not the only thing that’s poisoning children,” she said. “Most people think the lead problem was solved when we took lead out of gasoline and new homes in the 1970s, but that’s not true.”

The communities with the high lead levels include Irvington, East Orange, Trenton, Newark, Paterson, Plainfield, Jersey City, Elizabeth, Atlantic City, New Brunswick and Passaic, along with Salem and Cumberland counties.

“You can breathe it in from dust and you can swallow it,” Pivnick said.

Also, Pivnick pointed out, in 2015, there were more than 3,000 new cases of children under the age of 6 in New Jersey with elevated levels of lead in their blood. Overall, advocates said, about 225,000 young children in the state have been afflicted by lead since 2000.

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222 Responses to NJ has a bigger lead problem than Flint

  1. Comrade Nom Deplume, back at sea level says:

    Frist.

    And this lead story will be largely ignored. No precipitating event, no single republican to pillory, means the left and the media can’t Katrina this story as they did with, well, Katrina, and are trying to reprise in Flint.

  2. Libturd in the City says:

    Lead…schmead. Remember, “The term ‘leader’ begins with ‘lead’.”

  3. D-FENS says:

    I can think of one particular poster on this board who I suspect ate quite a few paint chips as a child.

  4. D-FENS says:

    Are any of the Cruz fans on the board also Corey Booker fans?

    Remember to thank Cruz and the government shutdown for helping to elect him.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/steve-lonegan-shutdown-cost-me-election-098619

    It was a politically shortsighted move and screwed us here in NJ.

  5. Libturd in the City says:

    I can think of another poster on this board who probably was raised on a diet of crackers.

  6. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This lead story gets me really irritated. What do they want people to do?

    Lead paint? Get real. Why is the kid left unsupervised? Your kid should know not to eat paint, and if the paint is chipping, put a new coat of paint on. Water? Don’t drink tap water without a filter, it’s as simple as that. Yes, we have polluted our planet and these are the consequences.

    Sad part, they will never change the filter even if the govt provided them with a filter. They also will only care that their kid ate lead paint if money is involved. Could care less about the child’s health based on the fact that the child is eating lead paint. My two cents.

  7. Grim says:

    Another Asbury hotel? Is it a bubble already?!?

  8. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just want to be clear. I’m stating that they don’t give a damn about their kid’s health based on the fact that they didn’t pay attention (left unsupervised) and the kid was able to eat paint chips.

  9. D-FENS says:

    7 – Spoken like an ignorant a$$hole who’s never had children.

  10. Libturd in the City says:

    I raised my kid in a home with lead paint. He’s better than fine. Best of all, if he forgets to bring a pencil to school, he can write with his fingernails.

  11. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So send your tax dollars to clean it up. You complain about sending money for the kid’s education, but support this bs. I rather send the tax dollars towards their kid’s education. Pick your poison. I’m sorry that I’m a$$hole for being honest. Btw, I have a two and half year old. She has yet to eat paint. I wonder why?

    D-FENS says:
    February 4, 2016 at 8:17 am
    7 – Spoken like an ignorant a$$hole who’s never had children.

  12. The Great Pumpkin says:

    12- I also grew up in a house with lead paint, how come I never ate paint chips? I remember this girl that was in my kindergarten class. She ate dirt and sticks. Parents did a great job of teaching her right from wrong. Everyone else knew how disgusting that was and made fun of her for it. Why didn’t she get it?

  13. The Great Pumpkin says:

    13- I don’t remember much from that class, but I remember that.

  14. Libturd in the City says:

    “I don’t remember much from that class, but I remember that.”

    Probably all of the paint chips you ate did that.

  15. Libturd in the City says:

    Why does Hillary want to have sex with Bill Clinton first thing in the morning? She wants to be the first lady.

  16. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You are right. I should now sue the govt for not protecting me from eating paint chips.

    Libturd in the City says:
    February 4, 2016 at 8:45 am
    “I don’t remember much from that class, but I remember that.”

    Probably all of the paint chips you ate did that.

  17. D-FENS says:

    17 – No, only the property owner is liable. When was grandma’s rental built again?

  18. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So it’s the landlord’s fault for some kid eating paint chips?

    Did the landlord make the lead paint?

    D-FENS says:
    February 4, 2016 at 8:58 am
    17 – No, only the property owner is liable. When was grandma’s rental built again?

  19. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Chinese want to be leaders, but refuse to lead. Instead they steal products instead of being the leader of new ideas.

    “A handful of other companies produce TiO2, including Kronos Worldwide in Dallas and Tronox of Stamford, Conn. Chemours and these others will churn out more than 5 million tons of TiO2 powder in 2016. China also produces large amounts of the pigment, and its industries consume about a quarter of the world’s supply. Most of China’s TiO2 plants, however, use a less efficient and more hazardous process than the one developed at DuPont. Starting in the 1990s, if not earlier, China’s government and Chinese state-run businesses began seeking ways to adopt DuPont’s methods. Only they didn’t approach the company to make a formal deal. According to U.S. law enforcement officials, they set out to rip off DuPont.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-stealing-dupont-white/

  20. Comrade Nom Deplume, back at sea level says:

    [17]. Pumps

    “I should now sue the govt for not protecting me from eating paint chips.”

    First, sue your parents for letting you eat them.

    Second, I suspect that was tried and thrown out of court on the bails of sovereign immunity.

  21. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Of course a naturalized American citizen from China did this. Man, I would be embarrassed to be Chinese based on this. That country should look at themselves with shame. They are nothing more than a country built on thieves.

    “Most trade-secret theft goes unreported. Companies worry that disclosing such incidents will hurt their stock prices, harm relationships with customers, or prompt federal agents to put them under a microscope. Theft of trade secrets also rarely results in criminal charges because the cases are time-consuming and complicated, and it’s often difficult to win a conviction for conspiracy to commit espionage. A 2013 study estimated that China accounted for as much as 80 percent of the $300 billion in losses sustained by U.S. companies from the theft of intellectual property. Often, China won’t even release the records or serve the subpoenas that might contribute to a prosecution. To win in court, companies must prove they properly safeguarded their trade secrets, something many fail to do.

    DuPont/Chemours does shield its titanium dioxide process. Guards patrol its plants, which are surrounded by tall fences. Visitors have to be escorted and are forbidden from taking photographs. Documents and blueprints must be signed out, bags inspected. Employees sign confidentiality agreements and are relentlessly drilled on protecting proprietary information. Work is compartmentalized so that few employees have access to everything in a plant. The company vets all its contractors.

    Even so, as documents and testimony in a 2014 federal trial in San Francisco reveal, a naturalized American citizen, business owner, and technology consultant named Walter Liew stole DuPont’s protocols for producing its superior titanium white from 1997 through 2011. He even took blueprints for a factory and used the information to win contracts worth almost $30 million. FBI agents and federal prosecutors now consider the Liew case a watershed in their understanding of Beijing’s pursuit of U.S. intellectual property. Liew’s defenders say the U.S. targeted a hardworking, resourceful entrepreneur to protect the bottom line of a massive U.S. corporation—that DuPont was less victim than aggressor, recruiting law enforcement to stifle “

  22. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So you agree with me, parents should be responsible for supervising their children. I never ate paint chips and this was my point.

    Comrade Nom Deplume, back at sea level says:
    February 4, 2016 at 9:12 am
    [17]. Pumps

    “I should now sue the govt for not protecting me from eating paint chips.”

    First, sue your parents for letting you eat them.

    Second, I suspect that was tried and thrown out of court on the bails of sovereign immunity.

  23. D-FENS says:

    20 – You disclosed this to your tenants right?

  24. Juice Box says:

    re: # 24 – “I never ate paint chips and this was my point.”

    Sure, and you never ate dirt either too right?

  25. Ragnar says:

    Pumpkin’s freaking out thinking about all the lawsuits he can be hit with. Tyrone Green is coming after you!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGx3IA7oXho
    “C I L L my landlord”

  26. Libturd in the City says:

    Paint chips on dirt is like Baco’s to a caesar salad.

  27. Libturd in the City says:

    I actually had to get my home tested for lead in order to do a refi with Narragansett Insurance. I did pretty well. Only lead was on window frames and door frames where the paint chipped due to the movement. Of course, I repaint my windows and doors like twice a year since they are easy to do and my tenants seem to turnover that frequently lately. I just replaced the 16 windows in my 2nd unit, so no more lead there. Downstairs unit still has a large number of original windows. Will replace them when the tenants move out.

    In other news, replaced return pipe to boiler with tiny leak in it ($1,500 in on plumbing repairs) and still adding tons of water. I’m fcuked. Must be a crack in the boiler itself but don’t see any steam coming out the chimney. With the amount of water I am losing, I can’t believe there’s a leak somewhere else in the system. Next step, rent a thermal scanner from HD. What’s another $50 at this point? Might just put in the auto water filler at this point. Tenant is sick of running downstairs three times per day to refill the boiler. Spring can’t come soon enough.

  28. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s all in the lease. Besides, I maintain my property. Also, since it’s a four family, I have to play by the same rules as hotels. I have to get inspected every 5 years. What amazes me is how strict they are with my property, yet the patersons and passaics of nj somehow pass this inspection on homes that have 3 apartments or more (2 families don’t have to deal with this). They are in terrible shape, but somehow get the pass.

    D-FENS says:
    February 4, 2016 at 9:23 am
    20 – You disclosed this to your tenants right?

  29. Comrade Nom Deplume, back at sea level says:

    [24] pumps

    If you never ate paint chips, and how would you remember if you did, why did you want to sue your parents?

  30. Comrade Nom Deplume, back at sea level says:

    [20] pumps,

    I am beginning to going you could use a lawyer on so many levels.

    Happy to help, once your retainer check clears.

  31. Comrade Nom Deplume, back at sea level says:

    Going = think

    This slow autocorrect is infuriating. Gluteus, fix this.

  32. Sima says:

    #7 Absolutely foolish comment.
    Children get lead from dust in air, in water (from old lead pipes), and in soil. Generally NOT from eating paint chips.

    Examples of lead dust in air which is then inhaled or ingested (when children touch house dust on an object or the floor and then their mouth) are:
    opening and shutting doors and windows that have lead paint on them; also any lead paint flaking or wearing down gets lead dust in air; home renovations of older homes that have lead paint (because you’re disturbing the lead paint), any vehicle using lead gas gets the lead in the air; sandblasting or sanding of lead paint gets lead dust in the air and soil, etc.
    Also, all plastic objects containing lead over time release some lead in dust – whether Chinese made blinds or computers or toys.

  33. Juice Box says:

    re # 30 “It’s all in the lease”

    Pumps you give your tenants the EPA paperwork and have them sign it?

    http://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/documents/lesr_eng.pdf

  34. 1987 Condo says:

    Investigate the impact of diesel fumes in all this…

  35. Grim says:

    That document is worthless.

    99.9999999% will check the “no knowledge” box, because, well, they don’t know.

  36. Grim says:

    In my experince is is common for old glossy lead paint to bloom out lead.

    You can touch it, get it on your fingers, and then have no idea when you eat that powdered donut.

  37. Grim says:

    Despite assurances that intact paint is fine.

  38. Sima says:

    #38 – Grim, that’s it exactly.
    Also, the body mistakes lead for calcium – that’s why it goes to the bones and is stored there.

  39. Grim says:

    Likewise though exposure to dirt on the exterior of a lead painted house.

    Kids eating paint chips always sounded like a bullshit excuse to me.

  40. Grim says:

    Handling an old door by its edge – I’ve seen tons of lead paint doors in rub down houses that are worn down to wood a foot above and below the knob.

    Pretty sure we know where all that lead went.

  41. Sima says:

    It’s not just a city problem. Anyone doing renovations on an older house – even those beautiful $$ Victorian houses in high end towns – can expose children and fetuses to high levels of lead.
    I know someone like that – when she was pregnant she and her husband were busy renovating a gorgeous old Victorian. Lots of dust everywhere. The kid was exposed to high levels of dust in utero, had delayed speech, trouble in school – as compared to both parents having graduate degrees.

  42. Juice Box says:

    re# 37 – NYC does their own lead testing when there is a complaint, landlords usually won’t let them in to avoid the violations. Something like a thousand kids test positive every year in NYC for lead poisoning, NYC has issued tens of thousands of violations for lead paint chippings or failure to encapsulate the lead paint.

    Not that it’s new to anyone here but there is pollution everywhere in the tri-state area, and surviving the pollution only makes you stronger.

  43. Libturd in the City says:

    I’m stronger than the (lead) storm.

  44. Libturd in the City says:

    Ten year is at 1.86 again.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=^TNX#{%22range%22:%2210y%22,%22allowChartStacking%22:true}

  45. chicagofinance says:

    Another interesting source of contamination is the paint on the elevated train lines…..tons of lead dust contamination in all those neighborhoods around the city….not just airborne either……one of the most common ways supposedly is people walking through streets and then not taking off their shoes at home, lead build up in carpets…..toddlers/babies live on these surfaces…..confirmed by sampling data…

    Juice Box says:
    February 4, 2016 at 11:01 am
    re# 37 – NYC does their own lead testing when there is a complaint, landlords usually won’t let them in to avoid the violations. Something like a thousand kids test positive every year in NYC for lead poisoning, NYC has issued tens of thousands of violations for lead paint chippings or failure to encapsulate the lead paint.

    Not that it’s new to anyone here but there is pollution everywhere in the tri-state area, and surviving the pollution only makes you stronger.

  46. chicagofinance says:

    Just sounds like some hipster crap to me….

    CHEESE STEAK
    Sautéed Onions / Nach-Yo Cheese / Pickled Jalapeño & Pineapple / Crushed Fire Cheeto / side of Lead Chips

  47. chicagofinance says:

    NEWARK – “Snitches get stitches” is an old adage that keeps people’s mouths shut. Yet blabbing seems to be a part of Mayor Ras Baraka’s 45-day crime-fighting plan. At yesterday’s press conference, Baraka noted that residents bombarded him with social media complaints about the city’s lousy attempt at snow removal. Now he’s asking residents to be as vocal about their neighbors committing crime. “I want you to hashtag me and say, ‘this is the guy who beat this lady up last night, this is the person I know who did this shooting.’ Hit me with that. Hashtag that. Put that out on Facebook, Twitter, internet everywhere you have.” Wow. Some suggested hashtags for those following the mayor’s advice: #whatdidijustdo #needwitnessprotection #theyarehere #willbedeadsoon.

  48. JC says:

    Flint is not about eating paint chips, it’s about lead in the water. Are you saying parents shouldn’t let kids drink water? Have you SEEN what comes out of the taps in Flint?

  49. NJGator says:

    Chifi 49 – They’ll come help after they finish clearing the snow.

    Newark had 9 vehicles for salting and plowing snow. South Orange had 30.

    During an appearance before the City Council Tuesday morning, Mayor Ras Baraka revealed that Newark — the largest city in New Jersey – had just nine vehicles for plowing and salting roads during a storm that paralyzed much of the city for days. By comparison, South Orange, with a population of just over 16,000, claims at least 30.

    Baraka claimed the fleet was decimated as trucks were sold off following former Mayor Cory Booker’s effort to privatize of the city’s sanitation department in 2010, which eventually ended in 92 employees being laid off.

    “Its shameful,” he said. ” If we tried to plow the snow ourselves we would be still plowing it (Tuesday).”

    With so few resources of their own, officials were forced to lean heavily on outside contractors — though that also failed to go as planned.

    The city approved contracts with 9 vendors in November 2014, setting aside up to $2.5 million in order to provide as many as 125 plows and 85 bucket trucks, front loaders and other equipment to assist with snow removal. According to officials, however, those deals do not require the contractors to commit all of those resources to Newark alone.

    http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2016/02/newark_had_just_9_trucks_for_plowing_salting_durin.html

  50. D-FENS says:

    Loretta Weinberg (NJ Senate)
    ‏@SenatorLorettaW
    @BernieSanders Not #FeelingTheBern today. I’m a “REAL PROGRESSIVE” and proud supporter of @HillaryClinton #ImWithHer #Election2016

  51. D-FENS says:

    For a good laugh…read this dude’s timeline today.

    Martin Shkreli ‏@MartinShkreli 3h3 hours ago
    Hard to accept that these imbeciles represent the people in our government.

  52. Juice Box says:

    Fight Club 2.0

    IRS experiencing computer failure

    The U.S. Internal Revenue Service says computer failures have left the agency unable to accept some taxpayer returns.

  53. Juice Box says:

    LOL – Shkreli could not help himself. Is his attorney Ben Brafman, now going to kick him to the curb? Especially after he lost 40 million in his e-trade account, that was used to secure his bail?

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/learn-all-about-martin-shkreli-in-23-of-his-best-tweets-2015-12-17

  54. Libturd in the City says:

    Weinberg another idiot who lost money in the Madoff Pyramid scheme. Now why should one listen to such sh1t-for-brains?

  55. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Since everyone is calling me foolish, I guess you are now in support of regulation? You guys complain about regulation and then advocate for it. Which one is it? Make up your mind.

    I know all the damn rules. I have to. I own a four family built before 1978. I have to have all the lead paperwork (even though I don’t have lead due to the house being gutted and repaired) because I own a home before 1978. Like I stated earlier, I have to adhere to hotel rules due to it being more than a 2 family. A 2 family you do not have to worry about anything if you know what you are doing (meaning having the ability to avoid renters that aren’t going to throw the law book at you). I have to deal with a hardcore inspection every 5 years by the state. I also have to pay them to do this in fees. Even if I had lead paint, if you paint it over enough times it is seriously nothing to worry about. If I do any type of construction on my property, I have to have a lead certified contractor do the work due to the dust.

    Sima says:
    February 4, 2016 at 10:01 am
    #7 Absolutely foolish comment.
    Children get lead from dust in air, in water (from old lead pipes), and in soil. Generally NOT from eating paint chips.

    Examples of lead dust in air which is then inhaled or ingested (when children touch house dust on an object or the floor and then their mouth) are:
    opening and shutting doors and windows that have lead paint on them; also any lead paint flaking or wearing down gets lead dust in air; home renovations of older homes that have lead paint (because you’re disturbing the lead paint), any vehicle using lead gas gets the lead in the air; sandblasting or sanding of lead paint gets lead dust in the air and soil, etc.
    Also, all plastic objects containing lead over time release some lead in dust – whether Chinese made blinds or computers or toys.

  56. Ragnar says:

    Here’s a photo of Pumpkin checking in on his rental property
    http://tinyurl.com/pumpkinvisitingtenants

  57. Ragnar says:

    Hmm, if wonder if Newark gave the snow clearing contracts to private contractors based on price and excellence of operation, or maybe they could have been steered to incompetent cronies.

  58. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:
  59. Comrade Nom Deplume, the anon-tidote says:

    Reading about the on-call prohibition regulations in NYC and other cities, prohibiting employers from using workers on an on-call basis. The regulatory requirements and complaints of the workers reminded me of a part-time nanny we hired. She demanded:

    Guaranteed min. hours per week.
    High hourly rate
    Comp for travel time
    Comp for gas

    Against my advice, the wife hired her. She was chronically late, would call in for things like a sick cat or reluctance to drive her new car in the snow, and told us she appreciated our “flexibility.” We later learned she would routinely deviate to Starbucks while driving my daughter to school (making her late at times), and once even brought my kids to her house and had them help her fold laundry (hers!)

    When we adjusted her hours, she screamed like a stuck pig and pointed out that her “other family” would still pay her if they sent her home early or she couldn’t work. She got truculent when she demanded monthly schedules and we refused, and she said we were not being straight with her while she provided us with exemplary service (in fact, that was anything but true as we learned during and after). Final straw was when we asked her to pick up another of our children and she balked because it was farther away (and would mean she would be working during the set time we were paying her rather than home playing with the cat). Her excuse was that her husband “needed the car” (first time we heard that one).

    We thought hard about her demands for “fair treatment” along the lines of the SJWs and the SEIU agitators.

    And we made a decision. We fired her.

    (she had the nerve to complain that there was no notice. I responded “in what industry do you get notice when you are fired?” and hung up on her)

  60. Ragnar says:

    Comrade,
    More immigrants without welfare would solve that nanny problem.

  61. Bystander says:

    4 family, blump? You renting out a basement apt? Of course not.

  62. Not Ragnary says:

    Knew a political boss in a town that makes the 100 over $100,000 in retirement list routinely. Yes, it was a political machine, that if you were in you were rewarded. But the boss expected work too.

    In a blizzard like the one of a few weeks ago, he expected every principal, manager, and other highly paid hacks to show up and manned the fleet of snow plowers. The public works employee operated the big trucks and plowers, the hacks operated the smaller trucks.

    So you can have a Boss Hoggs, but he has to actually care about being a boss.

  63. Gold, bitchez!!!

    Just saying.

  64. Essex says:

    60. Mr. Plow

  65. Essex says:

    54. He probably doesn’t get out much.

  66. chicagofinance says:

    THE HAGUE, Netherlands — A man accused of killing a former Dutch health minister admitted the slaying at a court hearing Thursday, claiming it was an “order from God” because she was responsible for the Netherlands’ euthanasia law.

    The suspect, identified only as Bart van U. because of privacy rules, made the confession during a closed hearing, Rotterdam court spokesman Pelle Biesmeijer said in a telephone interview.

    Former health minister Els Borst, who drafted the nation’s landmark 2002 law legalizing euthanasia, was stabbed to death at her home two years ago.

    News of the motive behind her death sent shockwaves through Borst’s former political party, D66.

    “My worst fears have been realized,” said current party leader Alexander Pechtold. “The suspect’s motive is shocking and confrontational. Els was killed because of her socially and politically groundbreaking work on euthanasia.”

    Prosecution spokeswoman Jeichien de Graaff said Van U.’s statement in court would be taken into account in a psychiatric assessment that aims to help judges decide if he can be held criminally responsible for his actions.

    Van U. was arrested last year on suspicion of stabbing his sister to death, de Graaff said. Prosecutors say that during the investigation into that slaying, he gave DNA samples that were found to match traces of DNA found at the scene of Borst’s slaying.

    Van U. is charged with murder or, alternatively, manslaughter in both slayings.

  67. leftwing says:

    59.

    Outstanding movie. Best line, Bernadette Peters when she was still doable, in the basement disco when the opti-grab was shown defective and everyone left: “It’s not the money I’ll miss, it’s all the STUFF” lol. Need to rent The Jerk and watch it with the boys.

    Steve Martin licking shut about three million envelopes with 42 cent settlement checks in each. “All I need is this ashtray, that’s all I need” . Telephone book, defective oil cans…..classic.

  68. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Nope. It’s a 3 family with a separate little house in the back (grandfathered in..it’s what makes the property so valuable…zoning would never allow that today, so never ever knocking it down)My basement has a legal full bath and kitchen (also grandfathered in). I’m tempted to rent it out, but too much risk in Clifton. They have town employees drive around like nazi’s looking for people doing illegal stuff. They literally look at the amount of garbage coming from each house. So not worth the side cash. Plus, if something happens to someone living illegally, I can lose every dollar every dollar to my name. I will never recover from that, too much to lose for chump change in rent. The trick is to find an immigrant off the boat who doesn’t know their rights to rent a basement apartment to or a very close friend. I don’t have friends at the moment that would want to rent it out and I sure don’t have any immigrants lined up.

    Bystander says:
    February 4, 2016 at 2:17 pm
    4 family, blump? You renting out a basement apt? Of course not.

  69. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Rip- Dave Mirra. One of hero’s growing up back in my biking days.

  70. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The Democratic Party elite has launched a virtually unprecedented attack against Bernie Sanders.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/02/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-primary-president-iowa-caucus-new-hampshire-primary/

  71. The Great Pumpkin says:

    My quote to people who think you can maintain services at a 2% cap rate. My town is having a major battle over school programs being cut. With a 2% cap, it’s inevitable you will be making cuts left and right as the years go by. No way in hell you keep health care costs under 2% a year. It’s impossible for most things to stay under 2%. If inflation hits hard, it’s going to be a shi! show with this 2% cap in town budget meetings.

    “But continue to be dreamers and think you can have it all under a 2% yearly budget increase.”

  72. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Listening to my town board meeting, and health benefit costs might rise 18%. That’s comical to have a 2% cap when healthcare industry are having double digit rise in costs. 2% cap is a joke. Christie must have been taking advice from unicorns when he came up with this.

  73. Ragnar says:

    Leftwing, that was the first R-rated movie I ever saw, age 9. Actually pretty tame. Hilarious. Martin was in his comedic prime then.

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