Christie the problem? Or all the governors before him?

From the Star Ledger:

Chris Christie’s state is an economic cripple

Newly-released 2015 Census data only further confirms the depth of New Jersey’s economic funk.

The state’s recovery is really struggling, people. Compared to other states, including our neighbors, we’ve had some of the weakest improvements in wages, poverty, median household and per capita income.

We have finally seen some jobs added after a lost decade, but they tend to be lower-paying. Meanwhile, the number of New Jerseyans living in deep poverty has risen by the thousands.

Thanks to our high cost of living and low wages, we also have the largest share of young adults living with their parents in the nation. New Jersey was one of just 8 states that actually saw growth in income inequality.

In short, the magical thinking that Gov. Chris Christie has relied on to steer the economy is simply not working. Like many Republicans, he clings to the notion that lower taxes are the key to economic growth, despite all the hard evidence to the contrary.

Christie has imposed more than $2 billion in business tax cuts during his time in office, not including an additional $660 million annually that kicks in at the end of 2016, when they are fully phased in. He also repeatedly vetoed a modest increase of taxes on the richest among us, despite the fiscal crisis.

The truth is that investors look not just at taxes, but at the quality of the infrastructure, the skills of the workforce, and even the performance of public schools.

Meanwhile, our structural problems remain: Bridges and roads in dreadful shape, that we can’t afford to fix; overcrowded buses and trains with obscenely expensive fares, high costs on energy and health care, and a fiscal crisis that cripples state government.

What would help? Both business and labor say the most pressing task is to rebuild the states crumbling infrastructure, where Christie’s failure has been dramatic. He promised a reliable funding source for transportation, then failed to produce it, throwing up his hands and blaming the Legislature.

No serious player disputes that we need a tax increase to cover these costs. The math is unforgiving. But Christie won’t agree to that unless a gas tax is paired to even larger tax cuts, despite the fiscal crisis. That rigid thinking is a triumph of ideology over evidence.

But this was never about the data. It’s about Christie’s national ambition. Our state’s recovery trails the rest of the nation because Christie won’t defy anti-tax dark lord Grover Norquist, and do what is best for this state.

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107 Responses to Christie the problem? Or all the governors before him?

  1. Frist. I never read this before. Thanks, Lib.

    I like to read this periodically. It should be required reading on every September 11th.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2004/11/200849163336457223.html

  2. grim says:

    Explosives in Elizabeth?

    Really sure these events are all unrelated? Leaving for EWR in a little bit, expect the airport to be near lockdown this morning.

  3. How about the dumb luck of those two guys who took the bomb from a populated area, that would have had at a minimum property damage, underneath the granite trestle to a completely unpopulated area surrounded by nothing but stone and granite? No injuries, no damage, just a big boom.

  4. Mc Box says:

    NY waterway has police and dogs searching everybody.

  5. D-FENS says:

    https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/777831889700790272

    @NBCNightlyNews
    BREAKING: NYPD: Ahmad Khan Rahami, 28, of Elizabeth, NJ, “is being sought in connection with” the NYC bombing

  6. D-FENS says:

    Bin Laden’s “Al Qaeda” and ISIS are not the same.

    Present at the Creation
    The never-told-before story of the meeting that led to the creation of ISIS, as explained by an Islamic State insider.

    BY HARALD DOORNBOS, JENAN MOUSSA
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/08/16/present-at-the-creation/

  7. D-FENS says:

    https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/ahmad-khan-rahami/download.pdf

    The FBI is asking for assistance in locating Ahmad Khan Rahami. Rahami is wanted for questioning in connection with an explosion that
    occurred on September 17, 2016, at approximately 8:30 p.m. in the vicinity of 135 West 23rd Street, New York, New York.
    Rahami is a 28-year-old United States citizen of Afghan descent born on January 23, 1988, in Afghanistan. His last known address was in
    Elizabeth, New Jersey. He is about 5’ 6” tall and weighs approximately 200 pounds. Rahami has brown hair, brown eyes, and brown facial
    hair.
    SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUS
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact the FBI’s Toll-Free Tipline at 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324), your local FBI
    office, or the nearest American Embassy or Consulate.

  8. Mc Box says:

    I wonder if the bomb that went off in central park was his work too?

  9. D-FENS says:

    No…the government tells us it wasn’t…so it can’t be.

    1:15 PM – 3 Jul 2016
    @BilldeBlasio
    Dangerous incident in Central Park today. Fireworks are fun – but let’s leave them to the professionals. Stay safe.

  10. Ben says:

    I just received a Rutgers alert that they are investigating a suspicious package at Douglas Campus.

  11. Mc Box says:

    I just got the terrorist alert on my phone, does that mean Wanted Dead or Alive?

  12. nwnj3 says:

    Hmm, so these “refugees” we’re importing wh0lesale due to the progressive left’s irresponsible ideology and thanks to the Democratic machine’s unquenchable thirst for more lower class votes is actually bringing terrorists to our shores and making us less safe?

    If Trump goes on to win this will be the single biggest reason. It’s flat out asinine to conduct any kind of refugee settlement program with these terrorist factory countries.

  13. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    looks like Putin’s running some operations to support his candidate

  14. nwnj3 says:

    There’s no way to defend brining potential terrorists to this country en masse unless you have a defective brain or value political office over the country’s well being.

  15. nwnj3 says:

    Putin is a convenient boogeyman and nothing more. You always need one when it power and TPTB don’t like the fact that he’s supporting Assad but I doubt any likely voters are losing sleep over the thought of a Russky launching an attack against them.

  16. Grim says:

    I love the fact that the suspects family owned:

    First American Fried Chicken

  17. 1987 Condo says:

    I like that even the terrorists here believe in working for a living….

  18. Ottoman says:

    What? No transphobic or mysoginistic jokes about “suspicious packages” at the women’s college? Wonder if the dipsh!ts who haunt this blog could go a week without using the c-word. Didn’t happen last week.

    Ben says:
    September 19, 2016 at 8:29 am
    I just received a Rutgers alert that they are investigating a suspicious package at Douglas Campus.

  19. Ottoman says:

    By “terrorist factory countries” I assume you’re referring to the countries that invade other sovereign nations on trumped up evidence, destabilize their governments, and drone kill their civilians.

    Also, the US is full of a$$holes with simple right wing minds who terrorize women, gays, blacks, etc. We just don’t call them terrorists. They’re not dark enough and they generally don’t target straight white men.

    nwnj3 says:
    September 19, 2016 at 8:36 am
    Hmm, so these “refugees” we’re importing wh0lesale due to the progressive left’s irresponsible ideology and thanks to the Democratic machine’s unquenchable thirst for more lower class votes is actually bringing terrorists to our shores and making us less safe?

    If Trump goes on to win this will be the single biggest reason. It’s flat out asinine to conduct any kind of refugee settlement program with these terrorist factory countries.

  20. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    1999

    “As it turned out, there was no need to cancel the elections, because the Russian people rallied around Putin and his vows to seek revenge against ethnic Chechens. Russian troops began invading Chechnya on October 1. His approval ratings soared: from 31 percent in mid-August to 78 percent in November. As Dunlop notes: “The continuing upward movement in Putin’s rating was accompanied by an increase in the hatred, which soon became incandescent, on the part of ethnic Russians for Chechens.”

    “What, then, was the role of Putin, who was prime minister at the time, and also secretary of the Security Council? In his “self-portrait,” First Person, published in 2000, Putin denied categorically that the FSB was involved: “What?! Blowing up our own apartment buildings? You know, that is really…utter nonsense! It’s totally insane. No one in the Russian special services would be capable of such a crime against his own people.” But of course the FSB, as Dunlop demonstrates, was indeed capable of committing this terrible act. And it is inconceivable that it would have been done without the sanction of Putin.”

  21. nwnj3 says:

    #19

    I’m with you(and so is Trump) on our role as uncompensated world police and interventionists. Let these third world hellholes collapse in their own misery instead of trying to propagate civility to locations where it’s incompatible.

  22. Grim says:

    Israel makes that premise difficult.

  23. Grim says:

    What? No transphobic or mysoginistic jokes about “suspicious packages” at the women’s college?

    Actually, only the one you just made.

  24. Grim says:

    ExPat – no kidding about those two guys, they saved a lot of lives.

    Any info on them?

  25. Grim says:

    Allah clearly not approving of these actions.

  26. Essex says:

    yeah because clearly the extremist swing vote will turn this election.

  27. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    No not the Red wire, cut the Blue one!

    “The F.B.I. then sent in a pair of robots and determined that the backpack held five bombs, some of which were pipe bombs, the mayor said.

    Around 12:30 a.m., the robots tried to clip a wire to disarm one bomb and accidentally detonated it, the mayor said.

    “As a robot was trying to disarm one of the devices, it exploded,” he said. No injuries were reported.”

  28. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    Terror Cell?

    Here is an excerpt from the NYT:

    Late Sunday night, two law enforcement officials said that investigators stopped a car on the Belt Parkway near the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge and took five people to an F.B.I. office in Manhattan for questioning in the bombing investigation. One of the officials said that all or most of them may have been from the same family and that they may have been on their way to the airport. The F.B.I. confirmed in a statement that agents and police detectives had stopped “a vehicle of interest in the investigation into Saturday’s bombing in Manhattan and that no one has been charged with any crime.”

  29. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    ALERT!

    BOLA:

    Ahmad Khan Rahami

    Wanted terrorist bombing NY-NJ

    5’6″- 200 lbs – Afghan descent.

    Smells like fried chicken.

    Call FBI

  30. Grim says:

    So the FBI is actively monitoring EZPass real time then?

  31. nwnj3 says:

    Essex, not sure who that was directed to but you’re out of your mind if you think the only remaining swing voters are extremists.

    In the past 48 hours, mall shoppers, marathoners, pedestrians and commuters have all been targeted by Islamic terrorists. There are a lot of PO’d people out there right now asking who allowed these dirtbags in.

  32. 1987 Condo says:

    EZ Pass-maybe, the VZ toll is collected as you enter Staten Island. They may have tracked the Goethals toll as you enter SI, leaving NJ

  33. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    Footstool [9:18];

    What? No transphobic or mysoginistic jokes about “suspicious packages” at the women’s college?

    No, the first person to say that would be you. But you get to call everyone else sexist/racist/transphobic, etc. Leftism is nothing if not a textbook case study in psychological projection.

    Congratulations on your continuing efforts at not being here, since you clearly consider yourself too enlightened to consort with the likes of us.

  34. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    Grim – Local PD has it too… E-ZPass RFID gets polled all the time in NYC and not just at the toll booths.

    Transcore readers, project Midtown in Moton, under Bloomberg.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=TransCore+readers&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=923&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZ8OvX1JvPAhWJyj4KHfmQBqoQ_AUICCgD

  35. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    In the last 20 years, the U.S. has taken in less than 20,000 refugees from Afghanistan.

  36. Fast Eddie says:

    Ottoman,

    Hey f.ucking d1ckhead, if you don’t like this country, f.ucking leave! You’re a f.ucking assh0le. F.uck you, jerk0ff!

  37. Raymond Reddington says:

    Tell that to the robot

    “As a robot was trying to disarm one of the devices, it exploded,” he said. No injuries were reported.”

  38. Grim says:

    Pour out a 10w30 for our dead homie?

  39. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:
  40. Ben says:

    What? No transphobic or mysoginistic jokes about “suspicious packages” at the women’s college? Wonder if the dipsh!ts who haunt this blog could go a week without using the c-word. Didn’t happen last week.

    Douglas campus is home to Cook College of the Arts and Sciences which is co-ed among several other large programs. But thanks for being the only one to mention the stereotype.

  41. chicagofinance says:

    Another older millennial living at home…..

    The feds — included members of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives — raided an apartment where Rahami lives above the family’s restaurant — First American Fried Chicken — on Elmora Avenue.

  42. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “Also, the US is full of a$$holes with simple right wing minds who terrorize women, gays, blacks, etc.”

    You forgot to add the DNC PostScript, “No homo.”

  43. D-FENS says:

    Right wingers in the US terrorize gays? Doesn’t Chelsea have a large gay population? Did you forget Orlando? I don’t think it’s “right wingers” in the US that are targeting gays.

    I’m pretty sure it’s Muslim terrorists enabled by their left wing buddies.

    Ottoman says:
    September 19, 2016 at 9:24 am
    By “terrorist factory countries” I assume you’re referring to the countries that invade other sovereign nations on trumped up evidence, destabilize their governments, and drone kill their civilians.

    Also, the US is full of a$$holes with simple right wing minds who terrorize women, gays, blacks, etc. We just don’t call them terrorists. They’re not dark enough and they generally don’t target straight white men.

  44. Mc Box says:

    Seems he used a cell phone on one of the unexploded bombs which was quickly traced to his family’s cell plan. This guy is obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.

  45. Joyce says:

    Gary,
    Do you realize that whenever another law/regulation is passed or a new social trend comes along that you don’t like and complain about – someone can say this very same line to you too?

    “Hey f.ucking d1ckhead, if you don’t like this country, f.ucking leave!”

  46. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    I don’t think terrorism is a partisan issue. Though I would argue that one party is doing a much better job than the other capitalizing on it.

  47. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    It’s all about the base, ’bout the base, ’bout the base, no trouble.

  48. D-FENS says:

    It’s possible to love your country and hate it’s government at the same time.

    I think Gary loves his country but dislikes the government.

    Otto on the other hand, loves government, but hates his country and the people in it.

    Joyce says:
    September 19, 2016 at 12:33 pm
    Gary,
    Do you realize that whenever another law/regulation is passed or a new social trend comes along that you don’t like and complain about – someone can say this very same line to you too?

    “Hey f.ucking d1ckhead, if you don’t like this country, f.ucking leave!”

  49. nwnj3 says:

    Security is very much a partisan issue. Gun grabs, open borders, mass relocations from terrorists hotbeds, the contrast couldn’t be greater than these two candidates.

  50. Joyce says:

    You think Ottoman judging by his posts loves this government? After ranting about invading other countries… who did the invasion the Boy Scouts ?

  51. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “Security is very much a partisan issue. Gun grabs, open borders, mass relocations from terrorists hotbeds, the contrast couldn’t be greater than these two candidates.”

    Let me know the next time a Mexican builds a bomb, the first time a Syrian refugee commits a terrorist attack or any politician takes anyone’s guns away.

    What a candidate promises and what the candidate does are two very different things. Just ask the (smo)King of Drones and the closer of Gitmo.

  52. D-FENS says:

    Rep. Steven Smith ‏@RepStevenSmith 15h15 hours ago
    Rep. Steven Smith Retweeted Katica
    BREAKING: Citizen Journalist breaks HUGE Clinton email story PROVING Hillary ORDERED EMAILS TO BE STRIPPED! #MAGA

    @GOPPollAnalyst
    SMOKING GUN: “BleachBit” Paul Combetta ASKED TO STRIP OR REPLACE VIP’s EMAIL ADDRESS! https://redd.it/2bmm4l #MAGA

    https://twitter.com/RepStevenSmith/status/777692226361057280

  53. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Please refrain from using “stripped” and “Hillary” in the same sentence. There goes my lunch.

    Happy now Otto?

  54. nwnj3 says:

    turd,

    Three very recent attacks have been directly related to “refugee”(i.e. Democrat voter) programs. Two by Afghanis and one by a Somali.

    The southern border is an open sieve for smuggling of every kind imaginable.

  55. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “The southern border is an open sieve for smuggling of every kind imaginable.”
    Good luck closing it. And at what cost. If an illegal commits a serious crime in this country, deport them. Problem solved.

    “Three very recent attacks have been directly related to “refugee””

    Immigrants commit less crimes than natural born citizens. Check the research. But it makes for a nice rallying cry. Wolverines!!!

    Want to save this country? Do something about the lobbies. Until then, the income gap will continue to grow to the point where satiating the have-nots will be a much larger issue than climate change, terrorism and borders.

  56. nwnj3 says:

    Turd,

    You don’t need a fence except in a few expanded areas. Electronic surveillance would cover the rest.

    And we aren’t talking about immigrants who follow(though the left love to conflate the two) immigration controls. It’s the open borders and mass relos that are the problem.

    Don’t kid yourself that the refugee ghettos being planned won’t be infiltrated by radicals. We’re already seeing it and it will be our kids who will have to deal with it.

  57. jcer says:

    Yes don’t kid yourself, when you take poor uneducated people and dump them in America with no job skills and no ability to speak English they will be poor, that in and of itself breeds radicalism when coupled with Islam. Taking the refugees en mass is a bad idea, I’m open to some refugees but I prefer to admit the educated people who will be able to contribute to the economy and be successful in building a life in the western world, I’d give Kurds, Yazadis, Christians, and Jews who likely will suffer most at the hands of ISIS the priority in Asylum status. The solution for Syria is expelling ISIS, not relocating the entire populous to the US/Europe/Turkey.

  58. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “Don’t kid yourself that the refugee ghettos being planned won’t be infiltrated by radicals. We’re already seeing it and it will be our kids who will have to deal with it.”

    I am having trouble coming to grips with completely closing the borders to immigrants from every country with any significant Muslim population. It reeks of the useless Japanese internment camps of WWII. I was raised Jewish, so that is the perspective I see the issue through. Many Jewish families sold everything they had to obtain exit and crossing tickets to emigrate from Eastern Europe to the supposed Land of the Free. Far too many filled ships were turned away only to have it’s manifest of stinking Jews returned to their certain death. Simultaneously, a number of somewhat less dangerous Jews were doing things for America such as developing the atomic bomb, healing polio and pretty much writing one third of all American patents. This fear of Jews is very similar to the fear of Muslims that has unfairly poisoned our culture today. In light of the recent local bombings, I’ve heard no less than two people today say, if all Muslim’s are not terrorists, why don’t they denounce these attacks. Sadly, I know of many who do. But in the face of our current society, their courage is waning. Much like the lack of courage of the non-Jews in all of Europe and America who would not stand up to Germany. Remember, the US did not enter WWII until Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. Only Germany’s alliance with Japan dragged us unwillingly into Normandy.

    Want to end terrorism? Stop fearing it and bankrupting the country fighting it. If the sh1t gets real bad. Go Hiroshima and Nagasaki on Mecca. Until then…stop grouping those not responsible with those who are.

  59. nwnj3 says:

    Too many non sequiturs and half truths to respond. I’ll just say that it’s the governments one and by far biggest responsibility to provide security and common defense to it’s own citizens and not some other countries down trodden. Let them get their own house in order and let’s fix our problems of which we have many.

  60. D-FENS says:

    Issue every man, woman and child an AR-15. It would solve all the worlds problems.

  61. No One says:

    I’m in favor of more immigration, but I’m against the current system which seems to prioritize people who are essentially helpless beggars while making it extremely difficult for hard-working, self-supporting, skilled workers to get into the country. I think it’s because leftist politicians know that the former group will forever be dependent on government and will be voting for leftists for generations.

  62. chicagofinance says:

    1.0 star rating 9/19/2016
    The food will give you explosive diarrhea.

  63. chicagofinance says:

    Another Yelp review

    “I was told that the pressure-cooked fried chicken was da bomb, but I must have come across one of the duds. Mine tasted of greasy bacon, and I kept having to spit out ball bearings.”

  64. chicagofinance says:

    “I ordered the 72 Virgin Bucket Special but when I got home found that there were only 64 virgins in the bucket, 8 less than expected. When I took them back to complain I was told that due to an increase in suicide bombings over the past month there was a worldwide shortage of virgins and was offered a pair of nubile young goats instead. Took the goats home and it quickly became apparent that they weren’t even virgins.”

  65. chicagofinance says:

    1.0 star rating 9/19/2016
    I decided I wanted authentic terrorist dinner and what better place than here? The “Beheading Salad” was a little dry and needed a little kick. So I tried the “Infidel Nachos” which were sprinkled with the blood of non-believers. Not really all that good but tasted great with a side of ISIS cola. For my entree I originally ordered the “Suicide Bomber Sandwich” but they were out of pressure cookers so I just had the “Straight Outta Kabul” hamburger with their signature “Murder Sauce”. It was ok. Left me feeling anxious and frightened. Oddly enough when we left the staff were all putting on vests with wires and timers. I thought it might have been a post dinner dance routine but decided to leave when they mentioned my head coming off.

  66. I met some Christian missionaries who actively try to convert Muslims in Sierra Leone and other such places. The reason they go after Muslims is because the structure of their families and culture is that all you have to do is convert 1 guy and suddenly you 60 converts once you count up all his wives, children, grandchildren. I’m sure its a much easier sell to get that Imam in this country to vote democrat.

    I’m in favor of more immigration, but I’m against the current system which seems to prioritize people who are essentially helpless beggars while making it extremely difficult for hard-working, self-supporting, skilled workers to get into the country. I think it’s because leftist politicians know that the former group will forever be dependent on government and will be voting for leftists for generations.

  67. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    “I think it’s because leftist politicians know that the former group will forever be dependent on government and will be voting for leftists for generations.”

    Ding. Isn’t it always. I do applaud Trump who continues to try to sell this to the section 8/WIC crowd. Then again, the last one who tried the same sale was Bill Cosby. Look where HE is now.

  68. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    And if anyone wants to respond/refute my Jewish perspective offered earlier. Don’t worry about coming across anti-semetic. I won’t place the race card. I’ll leave that for the progressives. Words don’t hurt me. I’m not part of the soft generation. Though intentionally deceptive lies and ignorance do drive me crazy.

  69. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    A home in our development just sold in a private sale to a different neighbor’s friend. I am waiting to see the tax record update, since it did not involve a realtor.

  70. Maybe I’m naive, but I don’t interpret Trump’s plan this way. I think the problem centers around war, culture, wealth, and religious freedom. I doubt there are many radicalized Muslims working their way into Western countries by way of Kuwait or Singapore (both of which have observing Christian populations), for example. On the other hand, if your town in your all Muslim terrorist state was bombed back to the stone age and you are just looking for a cushier, plusher place to value Sharia law over US law, wish all Jews death, wish every other non-Jew death just a hair less…I think we have a problem. Now let’s turn to the refugee problems of the war-torn states. I kind of have a problem with just opening up floodgates to all refugees forever until…when? Until all the alpha-fcuktards have killed or enslaved everyone else and then demand UN recognition for their new caliphate? If there is some kind of end game like 1.)Let everyone out who isn’t into the kill or be killed daily lifestyle then 2.) Bomb the hell out of the bad guys that are left until they are all dead, well all right. That, at least is an end game. The status quo right now probably just expels the sheep while giving safe passage to as many wolves who care to blend in. I would rather see a safe zone that continues to expand into the affected country until the entire productive economy is inside the safe zone(s).

    I am having trouble coming to grips with completely closing the borders to immigrants from every country with any significant Muslim population….

  71. Speaking of Kuwait, on the right track I’d say. This is what’s going to fix the Middle East…eventually. Empowered women.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/may/17/kuwait-women-elected-parliament

  72. Grim says:

    Can’t wait until Hillary brings his parents to the next democratic rally.

  73. No One says:

    Turd,
    My impression has been that a lot of the Jewish immigrants were educated, professional, hard-working. Some of them might have even been wealthy (or were before they had to leave their stuff behind. The sort of people I think immigration policy should favor. What would you say if a large portion of Jewish Immigrants went straight to Kiryas Joel or similar places to collect welfare, breed, and study religion (or a similar one, but with an extra encouragement to kill infidels)?

  74. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @SethMacFarlane

    Remember:

    This November you can help elect President Donald Trump just by voting for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein!

    Happy Election Year!

  75. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:
  76. Education and diamonds have the highest portable/valuable ratio. Not sure how safe Swiss bank accounts are anymore.

    My impression has been that a lot of the Jewish immigrants were educated, professional, hard-working.

  77. I never heard it put this simply, but I can’t find a flaw in the logic: “The more Muslims you have, the more terrorists you have.”

  78. joyce says:

    Expat,
    Do you want to toss out your personal definition of the word terrorism?

  79. Lost says:

    Truer words have not been spoken. Lobbiests are responsible for most of the problems in our govt.

    “Three very recent attacks have been directly related to “refugee””

    Immigrants commit less crimes than natural born citizens. Check the research. But it makes for a nice rallying cry. Wolverines!!!

    Want to save this country? Do something about the lobbies. Until then, the income gap will continue to grow to the point where satiating the have-nots will be a much larger issue than climate change, terrorism and borders.

  80. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    Grim,

    You’ve got mail.

  81. Essex says:

    Gary – the last true patriot.

  82. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    This is older news but quite relevant given Illinois’ well-publicized problems:

    https://www.illinoispolicy.org/23-of-illinois-29-largest-cities-are-shrinking-chicago-sees-2nd-biggest-population-decline-in-u-s/

    Actions have consequences.

  83. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    No one:

    “the current system which seems to prioritize people who are essentially helpless beggars while making it extremely difficult for hard-working, self-supporting, skilled workers to get into the country.”

    Which is precisely the opposite of every other developed country, and a great many undeveloped ones too. Try sneaking into Canada or the U.K. without papers and see if they give you a drivers license and welfare.

  84. Grim says:

    So the wife left for Pakistan the day before the bombings?

    Nice.

  85. Fabius Maximus says:

    Moose

    Quite a double standard you have there!

    I think Otto forgot to add the words (Channeling JJ) which is the free pass for all misogynistic comments in here.

  86. Fabius Maximus says:

    Eddie Ray

    “Try sneaking into Canada or the U.K. without papers and see if they give you a drivers license and welfare.”

    In the UK they actually do. With Canada, what border are they streaming over? UK gives you due process while they investigate your asylum claim and if you don’t get asylum you get deported. Why do you think there are refugee camps in Calais, north of France.

  87. Fabius Maximus says:

    “while making it extremely difficult for hard-working, self-supporting, skilled workers to get into the country”

    Afghani immigrants, arrive here and end up setting up a fast food place in Elizabeth.

    Which way do you want this; you get outliers in every group?

    And whats the point of a wall? There is a border in Tijuana and they just tunneled under.

  88. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    Rory,

    Deflecting again, I see. That dog still won’t hunt.

    No one mentioned asylum except you. Most illegals here aren’t seeking asylum as they can’t prove it. There was a time when that dog might hunt and everyone not from Mexico argued persecution at home. Decent body of law built up on that, not that the Obama Admin feels bound by it.

    Moreover, the really relevant question for asylum is this: What do they do with you when you don’t get it? Do munis in the UK issue you an ID, welfare checks and healthcare? Do they let you stay indefinitely in a sanctuary city?

    As for Canada (and, I believe, the UK), it matters not whether people are streaming across their borders en masse or in small numbers. It matters how the government treats their status. In Canada, they won’t give you residency unless you can demonstrate that you can contribute–for example, there are residency categories for certain occupations and if you fill those niches, you pretty much get residency. I’ll let you speak for the UK, being a brit and all.

    Finally, it was a rhetorical question: Name me a country other than the US that will let you in without special skills or other factors that show you won’t be a drain on government, will give you services, and will give you a path toward citizenship just because you got in and dropped a bambino.

    Your serve.

  89. Comrade Nom Deplorable, Member of the Resistance says:

    Rory,

    “and if you don’t get asylum you get deported. Why do you think there are refugee camps in Calais, north of France.”

    Actually, that kind of makes my point for me. Thanks.

  90. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @mendhirhasan
    Around 3000 Americans die every year from choking on food.
    Zero have been killed by refugees.
    So I’d be more worried about the Skittles tbh.

    @DonaldJTrumpJr
    This image says it all. Let’s end the politically correct agenda that doesn’t put America first.

  91. D-FENS says:

    Two “asylum seekers” did bomb the Boston marathon though. But I guess technically you are right. Doesn’t really make people feel any better about it.

    Alt-right (the good one) says:
    September 20, 2016 at 8:02 am
    @mendhirhasan
    Around 3000 Americans die every year from choking on food.
    Zero have been killed by refugees.
    So I’d be more worried about the Skittles tbh.

  92. D-FENS says:

    @jenanmoussa
    ISIS unit responsible for attacks abroad is al-Amn al-Kharji. It sent operatives to Europe disguised as refugees ->
    https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/772770972629929984

  93. D-FENS says:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/05/politics/isis-suspects-terrorism-europe-documents/index.html

    Posing as Syrian refugees
    The documents reveal fresh details about their journey and the way they posed as Syrian refugees, blending in with thousands fleeing the war-torn country.
    They made the treacherous crossing from Izmir, Turkey, into Greece in a boat filled with dozens of refugees. But they were then intercepted by the Greek Navy.

  94. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @mattyglesias

    When reading the latest bridge stuff,
    recall that Christie is leading Trump’s transition planning and will be influential on personnel.

  95. D-FENS says:

    We should help innocent people from war torn areas of the world…but we also can’t be foolish…there is a danger…

  96. D-FENS says:

    That would explain the witch hunt…for sure.

    Alt-right (the good one) says:
    September 20, 2016 at 8:24 am
    @mattyglesias

    When reading the latest bridge stuff,
    recall that Christie is leading Trump’s transition planning and will be influential on personnel.

  97. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @NYTimes

    Chris Christie knew about the scheme to close bridge lanes in 2013,
    prosecutors said —
    even while it was happening

  98. Alt-right (the good one) says:

    @tonyschwartz

    Trump’s Rogues gallery:
    Chris Christie,
    Roger Ailes,
    Rudy Giuliani,
    Paul Manafort,
    Steve Bannon.

    Judge a man by the company he keeps

  99. D-FENS says:

    You seem very interested in the alleged criminal activities of politicians. What did you think of this recent development?

    Hillary Clinton’s tech guy might have asked Reddit for tips on purging emails
    http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/09/20/hillary-clinton-tech-guy-reddit-email/

    Alt-right (the good one) says:
    September 20, 2016 at 8:30 am
    @NYTimes

    Chris Christie knew about the scheme to close bridge lanes in 2013,
    prosecutors said —
    even while it was happening

  100. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    Judge a man by the company he keeps

    You didn’t feel that way about Obama and terrorist bomber Bill Ayers. I wonder why?

    BTW, if the people you mentioned were who President Trump (get used to saying that… President Trump) appointed to the Supreme court during his administration, I’d be happy and the whole country would be better off.

  101. Comrade Nom Deplume, no longer white. says:

    Twitiot,

    Seeing as you are more likely to be killed by an islamist in your blue city than I in my red suburb, I have no problem with letting them in.

    Liberalism is its own cure.

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