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From the WSJ, Hat Tip Moose:

Freddie Mac Starts Pilot Program With Looser Standards

Mortgage-finance giant Freddie Mac and two nonbank lenders are loosening income and documentation requirements for mortgage applicants in a new pilot program.

The changes announced Monday are designed to help boost mortgage originations among first-time buyers, applicants with low-to-moderate incomes and those who live in underserved areas.

The moves come nearly a decade after the start of the mortgage meltdown, as many consumers remain shut out of the housing market largely because they can’t meet the underwriting criteria that most lenders require. Under the Freddie program, applicants will be able use the income of people who will live with them but aren’t going to be on the mortgage to qualify.

In addition, income from second jobs that borrowers have held for a relatively short period will be factored in. The pilot also doesn’t require bank statements that would show a paper trail of how some borrowers save for their down payments.

Many of the pilot’s features are similar to what Fannie Mae currently allows on some mortgages it purchases but are new for Freddie Mac, which is among the largest purchasers of mortgages in the country. Freddie Mac says it purchases one in every four mortgages originated by lenders in the U.S.

In addition, borrowers who will be living with family or other individuals for at least 12 months after they purchase the home will be able to use those non-borrowers’ income to get approved for the mortgage. The income will be factored in to help improve the borrowers’ debt to income ratio, a key figure that compares borrowers’ monthly debt obligations to their gross monthly income.

Paperwork requirements will also loosen up for some borrowers who don’t have bank statements to show how they have saved for their down payment.

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116 Responses to Welcome back old friend!

  1. grim says:

    You know, First American Fried Chicken would be a great name for a band.

  2. grim says:

    So what’s the deal with the terrorist temptress MO now?

    Seems like this is the second time. Is this the new recruiting strategy? Lure losers with the promise of a devoted wife who urges on extremism?

    I suspect ISIS’ social security survivor benefits are pretty good.

  3. grim says:

    They are clearly scraping the bottom of the barrel though, this dude has got to be among the most inept of terrorists.

  4. [2] Altria is a terrorist temptress?

  5. I just heard on Bloomberg radio that the knucklehead bomber is being held on $5.2 million bail.

    1. Bail? WTF?
    2. $5.2 million? Why not $4,999,999.98?

  6. Hillary needs more help up stairs to give a speech to 200 Temple U students. The large crowd turned out to hear her pitch for why she is the best Trump name-caller as well as the secondary topic of defeating terrorism with a better narrative and open borders.


  7. chicagofinance says:

    The End Is Nigh (Unicorn Edition):
    “If I had a bowl of skittles and I told you just three would kill you, would you take a handful?” said the tweet on the verified @DonaldTrumpJr handle.

  8. Grim says:

    I do know for a fact that fried chicken will absolutely kill you in the long run.

  9. chi-fi – And the Clinton Oracle has instructed all their news outlets to inject “Poison” in all headlines reporting the Trump Jr. comment like this. I didn’t read that into his comment at all. I was thinking along the lines of:
    1. Three more skittles triggers a coronary.
    2. Syrian refugee terrorists have been instructed to kill any infidel on site when seen insulting Allah by eating 3 skittles (something to do with the infidel holy trinity, I think).

    Donald Trump Jr. Compared Syrian Refugees to Poisoned Skittles


  10. I was just taking a gander at Pumpy’s FB page. He must be the leper with the most fingers in his circle of friends. I can’t believe he gets comments like these to his Bozo posts:

    “Well said!”
    “So true.”
    “Good point”
    “Love this post!! Very true!”

    On second thought, he probably has four or five accounts and writes the comments himself.

  11. nwnj3 says:

    Just read that GHWB is voting for Hil. How about Shrub? LMAO.

  12. D-FENS says:

    Read my lips.

  13. D-FENS says:

    Poison skittle repost….from this morning

    D-FENS says:
    September 20, 2016 at 8:23 am

    Posing as Syrian refugees
    The documents reveal fresh details about their journey and the way they posed as Syrian refugees, blending in with thousands fleeing the war-torn country.
    They made the treacherous crossing from Izmir, Turkey, into Greece in a boat filled with dozens of refugees. But they were then intercepted by the Greek Navy.

  14. Comrade Nom Deplume, no longer white. says:


    I avoid Newark, DE like the plague. They are absolutely rapacious there. I guess UDel students need a lot of ring-fencing.

  15. Alt - right (the good one) says:


    How many people at Wells Fargo are going to jail?


    But if you smoke marijuana in this country, you get a criminal record.

  16. Comrade Nom Deplorable, verbally armed and dangerous says:


    ““If I had a bowl of skittles and I told you just three would kill you, would you take a handful?”

    Apparently, the spin from the left is that DTJr is racist for bringing up skittles.

    Supposedly, the uneducated are voting for Trump. But based on the spin I am hearing from the left, dem voters must have the IQ of a box of doughnuts.

    Actually, we already know that from our resident baristas, footrest and twitiot.

  17. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    re: “terrorist temptress MO”

    Nah it was love at first sight. He moved back to Pakistan for a year in 2013 to learn the family business from his fellow Taliban, and that is when he saw her in her full length black burka and fell in love.

    Family business.


  18. Comrade Nom Deplorable, verbally armed and dangerous says:

    The twitiot makes a good point here. So far, no one at Wells has gone to jail. But some should.

    We know that WF employees padded their bonuses by setting up fake accounts. These employees defrauded the bank (and, possibly their customers–there is an intent issue there), committed identity theft, and possibly committed bank or wire fraud. These are state and federal criminal offenses.

    Now, I know that the twitiot would like to lock up execs for not discovering this sooner (it was WF that discovered and disclosed it, not the CFPB), or, horror of horrors, criminally charged for having the temerity to have incentive-based compensation metrics because sales goals=conspiracy to commit fraud, you know.

    Of course, there are countries that already have this sort of jurisprudence. China, North Korea, Venezuela, Eritrea and Iran come to mind.

  19. Grim says:

    Obamas justice department doesn’t prosecute, this is policy.

  20. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:

    Holder Doctrine……..a June 1999 memorandum written by the then–deputy attorney general warning of the dangers of prosecuting big banks—a variant of the “too big to fail” argument that has since become so familiar. Holder’s memo asserted that “collateral consequences” from prosecutions—including corporate instability or collapse—should be taken into account when deciding whether to prosecute a big financial institution. That sentiment was echoed as late as 2012 by Lanny Breuer, then the head of the Justice Department’s criminal division, who said in a speech at the New York City Bar Association that he felt it was his duty to consider the health of the company, the industry, and the markets in deciding whether or not to file charges.

  21. MC Box (busy digging his own grave) says:
  22. If Rubin, Prince, and O’Neal criminal referrals were ignored by the DOJ, why would we expect any bank executive to answer for anything?


  23. walking bye says:

    Perhaps Trump jr should have stayed with the classic parable of wolves in sheep clothing instead of trying to reinterpret the message with a more current analogy. The good shepherd always feeds his flock skittles though.

  24. Alt-right (the good one) says:


    Sen. Warren slams Wells Fargo CEO for
    “pushing blame” on lower level employees,
    says “it’s gutless leadership”.

  25. D-FENS says:

    Officials blaming the compound “Tannerite” …a compound used in target shooting found at sporting goods stores.


    New York City authorities are claiming that the IED explosion in Chelsea, New York, contained a common and legal substance known as Tannerite.

    Made up of a mixture of high-grade ammonium nitrate and aluminum powder that is sold separately and then mixed on-site just before use, Tannerite can only be detonated by a high-velocity bullet.

    Tannerite is very popular and often used in target practice to mark a shot with a cloud of smoke and small explosion. Although Tannerite is very stable, it is not to be played with, as discovered by the guy in a recent OutdoorHub article who severed his leg shooting his lawnmower full of Tannerite.

    It’s important to note here that Tannerite can’t be detonated using methods such as a fuse, an electrical current (such as a cellphone), or any low-velocity handgun bullet moving less than 2,000 fps. The big one in there was cell phones, as both recent bombings used cell phones as detonators.

    With all this being known about Tannerite, it’s odd that officials would believe this highly stable substance was used in the recent explosion. Or is this just a way that Democrat politicians are attempting to get this substance banned?

  26. D-FENS says:

    Rukmini CallimachiVerified account
    1. A law enforcement official has confirmed to me that pressure cooker bomb on 27th St in Chelsea and the 1 in Elizabeth, NJ were both HMTD

  27. Comrade Nom Deplorable, verbally armed and dangerous says:


    Warren knows nothing.

    You know less.

  28. More people believe bigfoot exists than think Hillary Clinton is honest. I’m not sure if there is a lot of overlap between the two groups, though.

  29. nwnj3 says:

    If Blamer prosecutes a banker how will he collect millions in bogus speaking fees the way Hillary did?

  30. Tywin says:

    Trump is correct, of course. We recently had a party where a kid shoved his dirty hands into a large bowl of M&Ms. At the end of the night I’m sure there were good M&Ms in the bowl, but common sense dictated that after everyone went home, the entire bowl (about 2 pounds) was thrown right into the trash.

    “If I had a bowl of skittles and I told you just three would kill you, would you take a handful?”

  31. nwnj3 says:

    They should just rename the parties now the globalists and the nationalists. You have Hillary, the Bushes, the neocons etc. on the one side and Trump representing red blooded America on the other.

  32. Alt-right (the good one) says:


    Most of all,
    Trump’s comment that he’d date Ivanka if she weren’t his daughter is insulting to T iffany.

  33. LOL. This is how desperate the MSM is. CNN’s fact checker was showing how wrong Trump Jr.’s math is, but his is worse. He was trying to illustrate that 3 skittles out of a bowl of skittles misrepresents the ratio of Syrian refugee terrorists to that would kill you to Syrian refugees that won’t kill you. Somehow he came up with 1 in 3.64 billion chance that you would be killed by a Syrian refugee. Since there are only roughly twice that many people in the world he must somehow be allowing for, “Sure some of the refugees *will* be murderous terrorists, but the chance of one of them actually killing *you* (as opposed to someone else, I guess?) is very small.” I like to watch CNN for a few minutes a day(for humor), but I swear it will drop your IQ significantly if you go a half hour or more. I’d wager you would get stupider faster watching CNN all day than you would watching a Three Stooges marathon.

  34. BTW, Hillary back in medical isolation until the debate.


    I wonder what they shoot her full of when they need her to have normal mobility for a short amount of time. They jack her up with something to get a photo op of her climbing a full flight of steps up to her jet, but other times she can’t do two steps.

  35. No One says:

    I’m waiting for South Park to tackle Hilldog this election cycle. They’ve already been doing Trump jokes since last year.

  36. MC Box says:

    They did. This election is a choice between a “giant d—che” and a “turd sandwich:”


  37. MC Box says:

    They were also smart enough not to get sued by Trump.

  38. No One says:

    But they haven’t hit Hilldog where it hurts yet.
    Like this clip on Mr Garrison/Trump

  39. Steamturd thinking Cankles should be included in the hyper incarceration says:

    “How many people at Wells Fargo are going to jail?”


  40. Comrade Nom Deplorable, verbally armed and dangerous says:


    There is a case to be made that WF employees committed criminal acts. I laid out a few statutes above. I am sure I can come up with many more.

    Aside from that, you have to find criminal conduct. You can make the argument for conspiracy if you can prove up the chain that this went on and higher ups turned a blind eye.

    That is hard to prove and notwithstanding the heat and light over this, the LA Times reported about it THREE YEARS AGO. And in that report, they said that WF fired people that they caught doing it.

    Essentially, the argument advanced by Warren and the twitiot is that you are criminally liable if you knew your employees did bad things but didn’t slam the door on the ability for other employees to do the same. Thus, if your car wash employees are pilfering change from customers cars, firing the thieves is not good enough. You have to make sure no one else can steal otherwise you are guilty of a crime.

    Get that? It isn’t enough to ban stealing and fire thieves. Unless you foreclose all opportunities for others to steal, you’re a thief.

    Orwell would be proud.

  41. joyce says:

    You’re acting like an executive is on the verge of actually going to jail. Calm down, nothing of the sort is anywhere near likely of happening.

  42. Hillary, speaking directly to white people(her words, not mine)

    “And maybe I can, by speaking directly to white people, say, ‘Look, this is not who we are,'”

    Her political(and mental) competence is spiraling the bowl at the same rate as her mobility, I guess?


  43. joyce says:

    The photo IDs, available to anyone at least 14 years old, serve as proof of identity and residency for anyone living in Newark, regardless of immigration status. Applicants must show proof of residency, in the form of a utility or phone bill, lease agreement or other paperwork.

    The IDs allow access to schools, libraries and cultural institutions. Officials said the ID’s also serve as valid identification during encounters with Newark Police, for example while complaining of a crime or being stopped.

    A total of 9,640 IDs have been issued since the program was launched in August 2015.

  44. Here’s my new call.

    Hillary out. Elizabeth Warren in. The thought crossed my mind when Warren’s over-the-top, obviously rehearsed, excoriation of the Wells Fargo CEO happened today. Trump is staying on message lately, but I bet he can’t bite his tongue hard enough to keep the words in when he wants to say Pocahontas.

  45. And then Tim Kaine dies. And then Hillary is appointed Vice President. And then Elizabeth Warren dies.

  46. Essex says:

    Warren is appealing to anyone not connected to banking.

  47. Fabius Maximus says:


    The ballot is locked, no changes.

  48. Fabius Maximus says:

    I thought that Trump would trip up on the Campaign Finance laws and it would come back to bite him. The bigger issue seems to be “Self Dealing” (Eddie Ray, care to explain?) from the Trump Foundation. Conway seems to be channeling Baghdad Bob.

  49. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:


    Of course they aren’t coming out. Trump is as much the Dems candidate as the Tea Party’s. As many Dems voted for Trump as republicans. This election was hijacked back in the winter.

    And your problem with Tax Foundation is what, exactly? Sounds like they are making your case. BTW, the Slate reporter must have been at a different event because the reporting I heard on that event (CNBC) had a different top marginal Corp rate and didn’t have the 15% pass through. Which I would have thought was a completely misreported figure if I didn’t hear the CNBC reporter saying that it was no longer on the table. This same Slate reporter also discussed the Kansas passthrough tax proposal which the left has characterized as making ALL LLC and partnership income tax-free. I will admit that I have not dived into that but it sounds completely cracked. So either the Kansas Legislature had an epic brain cramp or the left is spinning bullshit as furiously as they can.

  50. Fabius Maximus says:

    Eddie Ray,

    Was it the Dem convention that nominated him? I love the ones in here that are holding on to the supposed ground swell of working class Americans coming to vote for Trump.

    My problem with the Tax Foundation is that they are bought and paid for by the Koch brothers. It say a lot when they are the ones questioning

  51. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:


    No fool, Dems crossing party lines voted for him in order to try to set up the weakest candidate for Hillary. In other years this doesn’t work but this year was the perfect storm.

    Hillary will enter the WH with even less support from
    the nation than her husband. And she won’t have a tech capex boom or dot com bubble to help her.

    As for TF, you haven’t said they are wrong. By your standard, the Met plays shitty music because the Kochs endowed a building.

  52. D-FENS says:

    I really thought Jeb Bush was the weakest candidate. If Dems crossed party lines to nominate Trump so Clinton could win, they fcuked up.

  53. Fabius Maximus says:

    Eddie Ray,

    The difference between the Met and TF is that Lincoln Center was not for sale
    They bought TF outright.

  54. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:


    That’s what I like to call a distinction without a difference.

  55. Same as an Englishman and a homosexual.

    That’s what I like to call a distinction without a difference.

  56. Ottoman says:

    Because of course in your simple mind, everything the kochs touch must have the exact same weight and impact on the final product.

    “As for TF, you haven’t said they are wrong. By your standard, the Met plays shitty music because the Kochs endowed a building.”

  57. Ottoman says:

    and your proof is…

    Now how about we talk about the polls that show the majority of republican voters are outright racist xenophobes, fool.

    “No fool, Dems crossing party lines voted for him in order to try to set up the weakest candidate for Hillary. In other years this doesn’t work but this year was the perfect storm.”

  58. It’s actually the Dems that are outright racist xenophobes. In fact, Hillary was talking directly to white people yesterday (her words, not mine):


  59. SteamTurd the bourgeois drone, supportor of the canklephate and hyper about incarcenation says:

    Well Obama fukced up my early commute. All the roads around the workplace closed. Secret Service and cement barriers everywhere. Even the tunnel had extra security slowing things down to a gentile stop. Eighty minutes to go 15 miles. What a country. Sadly, still quicker and just about as cheap as paying to stand in a train carrying 1200 passengers.

  60. SteamTurd the bourgeois drone, supportor of the canklephate and hyper about incarcenation says:

    “You’re acting like an executive is on the verge of actually going to jail. Calm down.”

    Wake me up when all of those Democrats in Congress including those who served on the house financial service committee pay back Countrywide (the US taxpayer) for their VIP, points-free and interest free mortgage loans. Or just put their former head fruit in jail where he certainly belongs. Though he’d probably enjoy it. After all, he did have a love affair with the Fannie (Mae).

  61. nwnj3 says:

    Kochs are supporting Hillary now, as are most of the rest of the billionaire cohort.

  62. nwnj3 says:

    Does anyone else find it comical that anon, otto, etc. are now voting for the same ticket as shrub, cheney and the Kochs?

  63. Fast Eddie says:

    Now how about we talk about the polls that show the majority of republican voters are outright racist xenophobes, fool.

    We didn’t start the fire, d1ckhead.

  64. Alt-right (the good one) says:


    “The news of Brangelina’s divorce has become a way for people to declare that Aniston has been vindicated, that she is smugly satisfied, or that she saw the whole thing coming. Aniston is trending on Twitter, despite people frequently misspelling her last name with two N’s.

    Jennifer Aniston has become an avatar for Brangelina schadenfreude.

    Mentioning Aniston in the context of Pitt and Jolie’s divorce may seem harmless and fun, since there’s some kind of meta-story to the whole thing, but it’s also a brutal reminder of the sexist way that Aniston has been treated since she and Pitt divorced.

    Aniston wrote that she was fed up with the way she’s been treated, and with “the objectification and scrutiny we put women through.” She lamented how much we tend to define a woman’s value “based on her marital and maternal status.”

    “If I am some kind of symbol to some people out there, then clearly I am an example of the lens through which we, as a society, view our mothers, daughters, sisters, wives, female friends and colleagues,” Aniston wrote. “The sheer amount of resources being spent right now by press trying to simply uncover whether or not I am pregnant points to the perpetuation of this notion that women are somehow incomplete, unsuccessful, or unhappy if they’re not married with children.”

  65. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Footrest, someone is waiting for their chai mocha. Stop trying to think (not your strong suit) and get back to work.

  66. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Eddie, You’re wasting your time.

    Footrest is the sort that Down South, they would say he “needs killing”

  67. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:


    “Self dealing”

    Nah, you’re doing okay so far. Besides, this audience gets it and will know once you start the manure spreader

  68. Juice Box says:

    Ho Humm

    Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538 2h2 hours ago
    Our forecast has it close right now, with Clinton as the narrow favorite, because that’s what the polls show. It’s as simple as that.

  69. Alt-right (the good one) says:


    3% of American adults own half the guns in the US

    For that 3%: 17 guns per person

  70. chicagofinance says:

    Trumpeting growth under Obama….

  71. SteamTurd the bourgeois drone, supportor of the canklephate and hyper about incarcenation says:


    3% of American adults own half the shoes in the US

    For that 3%: 17 shoes per person

  72. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    Twitdiot [9:28];

    You and the leftist (JounoLISTa) Royal Scribe Ezra Klein so desperate to change the subject that you’re pushing the Bragelina divorce? Nice to know everyone (including CNN) is on the same page of the talking points (https://flic.kr/p/LuVZA9). Bonus points for CNN putting the Bragelina divorce above the bombings in NY and NJ.

  73. chicagofinance says:


    3% of the Elite 140 have swastika screensavers in the US

    For that 3%: 17 swastikas per screen

  74. Sheesh. This how a Harvard grad practices “journalism”. Jacqueline Alemany’s story for CBS, titled , begins like this:

    STRUTHERS, OHIO — On a recent Saturday, standing in her driveway, Halle Minchin Skook could not fathom why her neighbor was pissing on Youngstown’s Democratic tradition and voting for Donald Trump this election cycle.

    “He literally pees out his window,” Skook said, gesturing toward the house next door on Como Street, occupied by a Trump backer.

    The 26-year-old special education teacher at Struthers Middle School didn’t even want to mow the strip of grass between her home and that of her neighbor.

    “The stench of urine on the grass is awful,” her mother piped in.

    Standing in the driveway outside her hunter green wood paneled childhood home where she still lived, Skook was scornful of the following that Trump has developed in Struthers, a traditionally Democratic stronghold in the heart of working class Mahoning County, along the eastern flank of Ohio.

    “I don’t understand how any educated person who watches all of the political things on TV can vote for him,” Skook complained. “He’s getting nuclear launch codes if he gets elected. He would just blow up somewhere. I just don’t see him being a good leader.”

    In case it wasn’t already clear, Skook is voting for Hillary Clinton.

    But here on Como Street in Struthers, where CBS News spent a recent weekend knocking on every door on the block, Skook was in the minority. All around her, the community was ditching their Democratic roots and flocking to Trump.


  75. D-FENS says:

    That has got to be absolute bullshit. I’ll wait for the flawed study this is based on to be peer reviewed.

    Alt-right (the good one) says:
    September 21, 2016 at 10:30 am

    3% of American adults own half the guns in the US

    For that 3%: 17 guns per person

  76. chicagofinance says:

    The gift that keeps on giving…..
    “I would bust that tight p–sy so hard and so often that you would leak and limp for a week,”


  77. Juice Box says:

    Ladies and Gents

    FBI are STILL seeking two men pictured with suitcase containing bomb that failed to explode in New York on Saturday


  78. Juice Box says:

    New Jersey resident a Wells Fargo whistle-blower was fired. Just goes to show you HR, Legal and tipster hotlines are not on your side…

    “Today, the New Jersey man’s house is on the verge of being foreclosed on and he’s working part-time, at Shop-Rite.”You wonder where the justice is,” Bado said.”


  79. D-FENS says:

    HR departments protect the company…not the employees.

  80. D-FENS says:

    Rumors that Clinton may pull out of the first debate?

  81. Essex says:

    Hahaha that would be awesome. She sucks as a candidate.

  82. Essex says:

    Elizabeth Warren would hammer Wall Street and jail the people who put the economy in a ditch. These folks are the reason that Real Estate is so high priced around here. We need a good old fashioned Wall Street perp walk/blood letting. Then house prices will fall.

  83. SteamTurd the bourgeois drone, supportor of the canklephate and hyper about incarcenation says:

    “We need a good old fashioned Wall Street perp walk/blood letting.”

    We do, but the populace probably wouldn’t even care. They are too busy gabbing about celebrity divorces.

  84. Essex says:

    Why does Janet Yellen sound like a cross between Rainman and Kermit the Frog?

  85. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:


    For that 3%: 17 guns per person

    First, I call bullshit on the prior assertion.

    Second, I guess I need to go shopping.

    Third, I respectfully suggest you do too; make it sporting for someone

  86. No One says:

    Yellen’s voice reminds me of this description from a famous novel:
    “..her voice always sounded as if it were falling in drops, not of water, but of mayonnaise”

  87. Anon E. Moose, Second Coming of JJ says:

    SX [13:59];

    Elizabeth Warren would hammer Wall Street and jail the people who put the economy in a ditch.

    I suppose that’s why she endorsed the candidate who took the most money from Goldman Sachs, et al.

  88. Essex says:

    Strange bedfellows. stayed tuned.

  89. Fabius Maximus says:


    “I suppose that’s why she endorsed the candidate who took the most money from Goldman Sachs, et al.”

    Can you roll the numbers here? And factor in how the Hampton Set are shunning Trump in Quid Pro Quo!

    Here never gave to them, so they are not giving to him. Is the most money, because the other number is zero?

  90. Fabius Maximus says:

    Eddie Ray,

    “That’s what I like to call a distinction without a difference.”

    Only a lawyer could argue “not for sale” and “bought and sold” are equal!

  91. Clotpoll says:

    I find it hilarious that the Kochs are among the biggest contributors to PBS.

  92. Clotpoll says:

    It’s all fun and games until Bert and Ernie get waterboarded.

  93. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:


    “Only a lawyer could argue “not for sale” and “bought and sold” are equal!”

    Only a leftist can serve shit and insisting it’s ice cream because he says so and its racist to deny it.

  94. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:


    Gluteus will conveniently ignore that fact

  95. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Yesterday when I was at the courthouse, I picked up a concealed carry permit app for the wife. I still can’t see her packing but she has come to the realization that this right may be one she wants to preserve.

    It’s like a firearm: Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

  96. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:


    And yet it was the Democratically led government that interred his family.

    I also am old enough to recall that all the same scare tactics were used against Reagan.

  97. Fabius Maximus says:

    Eddie Ray,

    “And yet it was the Democratically led government that interred his family.”

    I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you off meds and just rambling? I have no idea, how you think I brought race into this and who was interred?

  98. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Can someone educate Gluteus about the Japanese internment camps set up by Roosevelt?

  99. xolepa says:

    I will probably educate you.

    Roosevelt picked it up from the Canadians. They started it all during WWI. Canadian government never addressed it until the last survivor of the camps died.

  100. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:


    It is irrelevant where Roosevelt got the idea. His administration set them up. Canadians didn’t force US citizens into US camps. Roosevelt was free to reject it; he isn’t bound by, or has duties under a Canadian constitution.

    Though if Rory could rewrite history, he might have.

  101. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    In retrospect, it was unfair of me to assume that Rory knew that much of US history. I just figured that a person as smug and self righteous as he knew all.

  102. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Sadly, the same institution that stood up to the administration in The Prize Cases and Milligan had become an administration rubber stamp by the time of Korematsu and Hirabayashi.

  103. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:


    But that is an interesting point and no, I did not know the Canadians interred anyone in WWI. Germans and Turks, I suppose.

  104. 30 year realtor says:

    Deplume, I call BS on your stolen primary story. That guy Harrington has no credentials or evidence to back that theory. The numbers just don’t add up!

  105. Fabius Maximus says:

    Eddie Ray

    I am aware of the history of the camps, what I a struggling with, is the relevance to this conversation.
    Again where did I bring race into this and who got interned?
    I can only assume you are either projecting onto me or more likely, you mistakenly attributed something to me and don’t want to be seen walking it back.

  106. Comrade Nom Deplume, the Deplumiest. says:

    Geez you’re either slow or dishonest.

    No, you didn’t interject race. Stop it. It’s weak and demeaning. Of you, not me.

    I am commenting on the irony of Takei deciding that a candidate for president is a domestic enemy on purely personal grounds when his own family was deemed such.

    Just like the Hollywood liberals who remain incensed about the black balling from the postwar era who respond with…wait for it…black balling.

  107. Fabius Maximus says:

    Eddie Ray

    So I post a list of 42 quotes from different celebs and I’m slow or dishonest because I don’t get an oblique reference to one of them you never named.


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