“Inner Cities” Thriving?

From Forbes:

Trump May Think Inner Cities Are A Disaster, But Home Prices Tell Another Story

Donald Trump mentioned “inner cities” 10 times in last night’s second presidential debate, using words like “disaster” and “devastating” to describe them. When neighborhoods decay, home prices decrease. However, a look at home prices in the “inner cities” of most major U.S. metro areas shows that the opposite is happening. Instead of falling, the median price per square foot of homes sold in the inner cities of 31 major metro areas has jumped 52 percent over the last six years, outpacing price growth in the surrounding metro areas by 18 percentage points. The only inner cities where price growth has fallen behind that of the surrounding metro area are Chicago, Houston and Miami. For this analysis, we defined “inner city” as the 5 kilometers around the city center of a given metro area.

Not only have they seen stronger price growth in the past five years, inner-city homes tend to cost 92 percent more per square foot than homes in the surrounding metro area. In Boston, a typical inner-city home costs more than twice as much as a typical home in greater Boston. In only seven of the inner cities we looked at, homes were less expensive than those farther out.

The concept of the inner city has changed radically since the 1970s when central districts were synonymous with crime and poverty. In recent years, cities have undergone an economic and cultural Renaissance, making the urban core a popular and highly demanded place to live and to work. New light-rail infrastructure has been built in many inner-city areas, and nowadays the high-paying jobs are showing up downtown instead of in suburban office parks.

That’s not to say that people aren’t struggling, but Donald’s Trump’s picture of the urban core doesn’t match the real estate market, and he more than anyone should know that when it comes to house prices, it’s all about location.

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100 Responses to “Inner Cities” Thriving?

  1. grim says:

    Forbes’ are clearly idiots, as the term “inner city” doesn’t refer to a specific geographical location but is synonymous with urban poor (and probably now sub-urban poor).

  2. grim says:

    Was this exactly the point? Force the hand of the next legislation to make cuts, where they wouldn’t take action previously?

    From the Star Ledger:

    23 cent gas tax hike deal will open new budget hole for N.J., Moody’s warns

    Echoing progressive opponents of a transportation tax package passed by the state Legislature last week, a Wall Street rating agency said Monday that the deal is ultimately bad for New Jersey’s bottom line.

    The Senate and Assembly on Friday approved the controversial tax package, which trades a 23-cent-per-gallon increase in the gasoline tax for a series of cuts to the estate, sales and income taxes.

    Gov. Chris Christie is expected to sign the bill, which ultimately will pour more than $1.23 billion a year into the depleted Transportation Trust Fund, while pulling more than $1.4 billion annually from a state budget that already underfunds education, public worker pensions and other programs by billions of dollars a year.

    That loss will be offset by about $346 million a year the general fund would no longer have to contribute toward the Transportation Trust Fund.

    “The $1 billion net loss … equivalent to 2.9 percent of current revenues, will worsen the state’s existing budget challenges,” Baye Larsen, a Moody’s senior credit officer, wrote in a report issued Monday.

    “Although the renewed capital investment will benefit the state’s infrastructure and economy, the net effect of the revenue package is credit negative because it will strain the state’s operating budget amid rapidly rising pension contributions and below-average revenue growth,” Moody’s said.

    “Assuming the state takes no other actions to balance the net loss of $1 billion, revenues would have to grow 5 percent annually to balance pension and other spending growth,” Moody’s said. “This growth target will be particularly challenging given the state’s below-average revenue growth annually since the recession.”

  3. grim says:

    Hmm… I wasn’t talking about genocides (wouldn’t it be stupid to actually wait till such stuff materializes)? I was thinking in terms of something simple, like “what are the chances that in the next ten years this place will no longer be a good place for me and my family”. I am a bit slow in the head — I need a few years of lead time.

    You are kidding, right? Look to the demographic shift, and you’ll see all you need to know. Millennials are poised to be the largest age cohort in the history of this country, and a very large portion of them will be born overseas, or born to immigrants. In 2013, NJ’s foreign-born population was nearing 22%, up 10 points from the 1990s. They are better educated than any group that ever existed in history. Period.

    The stereotyping of the demographic is being lead largely by idiot boomers.

  4. SteamTurd the bourgeois drone, supportor of the canklephate and hyper about incarcenation says:

    Forbes is completely out of touch. Here’s an interesting read from a little over two years ago on the NJTTF.

    http://www.northjersey.com/news/analysis-n-j-transportation-trust-fund-drained-and-state-lawmakers-blamed-1.1108657

  5. grim says:

    Just scanning the news on the gas tax. The Bergen and Camden light rail projects will cost $2 billion dollars? TWO BILLION?

    Jesus. Wouldn’t it be cheaper to just give everyone a discount on Uber?

    It’ll be nice to know that a month after the Camden project opens, it will be covered in piss and graffiti – like Newark… What’s it cost when hoodlums smash those fancy glass panels (what seems like every week)? $10k?

  6. funnelcloud says:

    I’m a Trump supporter not because he is a great guy but because of the very reason that the GOP establishment is abandoning him. It is obvious he is not one of the good old boys, The republican defections and now even Paul Ryan (after he make sure his job is secure) has turned his back on trump to focus on the down stream congressional and senate seats. Huckabee has even stated it is to protect the status quo interest, So Here’s some food for thought all you Trump supporters and I’m considering this, I’m voting for trump but I may vote down the line democratic for senate and congress Just to stick it to Ryan and his cronies, If they would sacrifice a presidential election to maintain their special interest. Why not hit em where it hurts, I live in PA an its going to be an ultra tight race for senate.

  7. Grab them by the puzzy (the good one) says:

    wouldn’t it be easier to just leave if you really want to bring America down?

    you don’t even like the guy but really want to fukc up our country.

    funnelcloud says:
    October 11, 2016 at 7:20 am

    I’m a Trump supporter not because he is a great guy but because of the very reason that the GOP establishment is abandoning him.

  8. Comrade Nom Deplorable, just waiting on the Zombie Apocalypse. says:

    For once I agree with my dystopian future protein source. Voting Trump and then casting downticket protest votes is as close as you can get to political wrist-slicing.

    Trump is basically a third party candidate. Always was.

  9. D-FENS says:

    Did Paul Ryan’s Top Advisor Leak the Trump Tape?

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/did-paul-ryans-top-advisor-leak-the-trump-tape.html

    Was the infamous Trump tape in which the Republican candidate made lewd remarks about women leaked by Dan Senor, Paul Ryan’s top advisor?
    That’s the story swirling around the Internet after Senor’s wife, former NBC reporter Campbell Brown, appeared to confirm the claim.
    Brown quoted a tweet that said, “Rumblings that Campbell Brown and Dan Senor are behind the Trump tape leak,” and then responded, “Yep. Still having fun after all these years. Key to a happy marriage.”

  10. grim says:

    you don’t even like the guy but really want to fukc up our country.

    For the past few years I’ve generally been voting incumbents out. Just go down the ticket. Whoever is in office, is out. Challenger gets the vote, regardless of party. If both new, vote the opposite party.

    The only counterbalance to country-killing career politics.

  11. Not FunnelCloud says:

    FunnelCloud, that is the best possibility for the country.

    Trump gets in, with House/Sen going democrats. By Trump winning he kneecaps the corporate democrats (Clintonian 3rd way BS) and empowers the Bernie side. By Dems winning both houses it kills the Ryan randian/Koch/ Corporate GOP.

    Out of it should come sensible country/people first legislation. As all parties are beholden to no one, and both are there and responsive to the populism side of the spectrum.

  12. D-FENS says:

    I think Trump loses in November…but does not go quietly. He has way too big of a cult following now. His political career continues as leader of a third party consisting of ultra nationalist right and pro labor Trumpocrats (former union dems) who favor protectionism.

  13. grim says:

    His political career continues as leader of a third party

    No way, he parlays this into massive name licensing deals around the world. Dozens of new buildings, rentals, condos, hotels, go up in the year after the election. Wait until you see the massive Trump spectacle that goes up in Moscow. Putin himself will cut the ribbon.

    If he loses, which he will, this will still go down as the most successful advertising campaign in the history of marketing.

    Just wait until you hear the details of the talk show deal, and what his next (ghost written) book nets him, NYT Best Seller. He will net an ROI that most ex-presidents will be envious of, and he didn’t even have to waste any time in office to get it. He will run the speaking circuit in a way that makes Hillary look like a rookie. His rider requires his own steaks and wine to be served. Is it misogynistic if I call him a whore?

  14. grim says:

    …no different from any other career politician, even if they only aspire to this level of whoredom.

  15. Grab them by the puzzy (the good one) says:

    yours is a wishful thinking of a child.
    grim got it right, donald is the best real estate agent

    Funny that for all your bashing of real estate agents, you all got taken by one!

    D-FENS says:
    October 11, 2016 at 8:22 am
    I think Trump loses in November…but does not go quietly. He has way too big of a cult following now. His political career continues as leader of a third party consisting of ultra nationalist right and pro labor Trumpocrats (former union dems) who favor protectionism.

  16. D-FENS says:

    Douglas Brinkley of Rice University spoke about it this morning on the radio.

    He also suggested that Breitbart would soon launch a cable news channel, cannibalizing viewers from fox news.

    Grab them by the puzzy (the good one) says:
    October 11, 2016 at 8:51 am
    yours is a wishful thinking of a child.
    grim got it right, donald is the best real estate agent

    Funny that for all your bashing of real estate agents, you all got taken by one!

  17. No One says:

    Trump will soon be a 70 year old loser whose main contribution was to illustrate how many “conservative” idiots exist in the US. His rise also basically wiped out the last figments of intellectual integrity for the Republican Party, Limbaugh, Hannity, Fox News, and created a new fascist-nativist news group called Brietbart.
    Meanwhile, the Sanders/Clinton dynamic shows that roughly 35% of the population want government to be a cradle to grave wetnurse, imagining that by squeezing bankers, the government teat will gush an infinite flow of milk and honey and high speed internet to their social media devices.

  18. D-FENS says:

    Wikileaks confirms DNC-government-media colluding behind the scenes and news outlets are busy looking for more “Trump tapes”. So much for freedom of the press.

  19. Grim says:

    9:20 – post of the day – but you are mistaken if you believed any politician had a single iota of integrity.

  20. chicagofinance says:

    no THIS is post of the day…..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr5TkEex34g

  21. D-FENS says:

    ‏@JamesOKeefeIII 54m54 minutes ago
    . @BOENYC Democratic Election Commissioner Alan Schulkin confirms that there is widespread voter fraud in NYC. “They bus them around.” #TCOT

    https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/785821341479874560

  22. No One says:

    What Forbes didn’t understand is that by “inner cities”, Trump meant “the neighborhoods where blacks and latinos live”

  23. D-FENS says:

    Elections official caught on video blasting de Blasio’s ID program

    http://nypost.com/2016/10/11/elections-official-caught-on-video-blasting-de-blasios-id-program/

    “He gave out ID cards, de Blasio. That’s in lieu of a driver’s license, but you can use it for anything,” Commissioner Alan Schulkin said in the undercover video recorded by a muckraker for conservative nonprofit Project Veritas.

    “But they didn’t vet people to see who they really are. Anybody can go in there and say, ‘I am Joe Smith, I want an ID card,’ ” he said in the bombshell tape.

    “It’s absurd. There is a lot of fraud. Not just voter fraud, all kinds of fraud . . . This is why I get more conservative as I get older.”

    Schulkin didn’t hold back to the undercover journalist, who identified herself as a political consultant at a United Federation of Teachers holiday party on Dec. 16.

    Not realizing he was being recorded, he broke with his own party’s position that voter ID requirements hurt the poor and minorities.

    Schulkin said he backed the IDs to prevent rampant fraud.

    “The law says you can’t ask for anything. Which they really should be able to do,” Schulkin said, according to a copy of the video and transcript provided to The Post.

  24. Comrade Nom Deplorable, just waiting on the Zombie Apocalypse. says:

    Expat,

    Good call on the GBP. :p

    Glad I held off the trigger.

  25. grim says:

    Just a quick comment on the locker room talk comment.

    What locker room? That whole discussion sounded like a bunch of 7th grade boys bragging about doing things they’ve never done before.

    Not defending the idiot, but “grab by the privates”. Think about that for a second, logistically. Maybe if you were a female, and you were taking said action on a male, OK. But a male? This is completely nonsensical, even if you attempted said maneuver, to what purpose would this serve?

    Like I said, 7th grade boy bragging to his friends about getting to third base, and when he is called out on describing it, he comes up with some outlandish description of the experience.

  26. grim says:

    Great memes on Facebook about the outrage around language used.

    Clearly, you’ve never listened to rap music before.

    Or, you were not one of the 100 million female readers of 50 Shades of Gray.

  27. Ottoman says:

    Because you can’t tell the difference between fantasy and actual rape.

    grim says:
    October 11, 2016 at 10:13 am
    Great memes on Facebook about the outrage around language used.

    Clearly, you’ve never listened to rap music before.

    Or, you were not one of the 100 million female readers of 50 Shades of Gray.

  28. Ottoman says:

    Trump has the vocabulary of a 7 year old and you’re parsing his language like he’s William Faulkner. LOL

    Not defending the idiot, but “grab by the privates”. Think about that for a second, logistically. Maybe if you were a female, and you were taking said action on a male, OK. But a male? This is completely nonsensical, even if you attempted said maneuver, to what purpose would this serve?

  29. Ottoman says:

    Post of the day for simpletons maybe.

    Grim says:
    October 11, 2016 at 9:25 am
    9:20 – post of the day – but you are mistaken if you believed any politician had a single iota of integrity.

  30. D-FENS says:

    You can say you’re “with her” but she literally hates you.

    https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4433

    Re: Topper for New Hampshire

    From:jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com To: john.podesta@gmail.com Date: 2015-04-19 18:23 Subject: Re: Topper for New Hampshire

    Truth Sent from my iPhone On Apr 19, 2015, at 4:20 PM, John Podesta wrote: I know she has begun to hate everyday Americans, but I think we should use it once the first time she says I’m running for president because you and everyday Americans need a champion. I think if she doesn’t say it once, people will notice and say we false started in Iowa.

  31. Tywin says:

    Newark, Camden, Trenton — all “thriving”

  32. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Otto,

    You have a funny definition of rape.

  33. Alex says:

    Wow, what Hillary really thinks:

    “..she has begun to hate everyday Americans…”

  34. Grim says:

    Rap doesn’t glorify rape?

  35. Brazilian Butt Lift says:

    Inner city is loaded term in USA however Forbes are right that central city real estate values have been doing better than suburbs recently. In New York area, condo values have blown away house values over past 10 years, says S&P Case Shiller data. Everybody on this site knows some NJ cities are still suffering but also many other former declining cities have turned around in past few decades and are thriving (Jersey City, Hoboken, New Brunswick, Union City) with growing demand for housing and rising populations.

  36. Essex says:

    Let’s assume Trump loses and he tries to parlay that loss into more ‘success’ or rather failures on the backs of investors and staff. Maybe he can brand a line of Chastity Belts?

  37. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Or bowling balls?

  38. grim says:

    Who said it, Trump or a Rapper?

    Chances ain’t sh*t if you don’t take one
    Mansion full of b**ches, about to rape one
    (I’m a f**k these hoes)

  39. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    How about, Funkdoobiest?
    B1tches ain’t sh1t but lips and cl1t.

  40. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Do not google the lyrics during lunch.

  41. grim says:

    Who said it, Lil Jon or Trump:

    Pop that p*ssy hoe
    Pop that p*ssy hoe
    Pop that p*ssy hoe
    Grab that p*ssy hoe
    Grab that p*ssy hoe
    Grab that p*ssy hoe
    Butterfly hoe and let that p*ssy breathe
    Butterfly hoe and let that p*ssy breathe
    Butterfly hoe and let that p*ssy breathe
    Pop, pop, pop that thang girl
    Pop, pop, pop that thang girl
    Pop, pop, pop that thang girl
    Shake, shake, shake that ass girl
    Shake, shake, shake that ass girl
    Shake, shake, shake that ass girl

  42. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:
  43. chicagofinance says:

    Tywin says:
    October 11, 2016 at 10:28 am
    Paterson, Camden, Trenton, Newark
    Everyone talk about…..mmmm….. Pop Muzik

  44. Anon E. Moose, saying 'Come back, JJ' says:

    Ottoman says:
    October 11, 2016 at 10:24 am

    Because you can’t tell the difference between fantasy and actual rape.

    Neither can you if you think the Trump tape is evidence of rape. BTW, what is the difference between rape and “actual rape”?

  45. funnelcloud – Months ago I was telling my wife that if Trump was denied the nomination this is what he would call for himself. Personally, if Trump doesn’t win, I would like to see complete Democrat control of the government. If you handed the House, the Senate, and the White House to the Dems it would be apparent in very short order that they are wholly incapable of doing anything except line their pockets with green. Maybe then we could get on to some really progressive thinking like voting every incumbent out every time.

    The entire federal government is one giant, elite, power structure and everyone except Trump has “earned” their place in this structure by following the rules they set for themselves, not the rule of law. And I’m not talking about just the politicians. This includes the lobbyists, the big corporations, and probably most important, the media. None of them give a gd f.uck about the people outside of their elite Borg. I am not even a Star Trek fan, but something in my mind told me that is the right word. I just checked and Wikipedia says:

    The Borg are a collection of species that have been turned into cybernetic organisms functioning as drones in a hive mind

    That’s perfect. The Borg doesn’t care about people, it only cares about itself. The Borg hates, hates, hates, hates that Trump is this close to jumping to the very top control spot of what they thought was an impenetrable structure.

    So Here’s some food for thought all you Trump supporters and I’m considering this, I’m voting for trump but I may vote down the line democratic for senate and congress Just to stick it to Ryan and his cronies, If they would sacrifice a presidential election to maintain their special interest.

  46. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    Hillary is no 6 of 9!

  47. STEAMturd questioning the gender of Hillary's Cankle fluid. says:

    What was my oil call?

  48. Essex says:

    There’s a little Trump in all of Us.

  49. HEHEHE says:

    The histrionics with which the joke media in this country has reacted to the Trump campaign almost makes me want to vote for the guy. The reaction to this audio tape is the icing on the cake. If you never said something that somebody else would find offensive then you must not have spoken your entire life.

    There’s logical reasons why he’s a lousy candidate – constant talk of a police state, bold policy statements never supported with details, the complete absence of any qualified future administrative officials named. We’ll see how well “I’m just gonna do it” is going to work in the real world if he’s actually elected.

    If the Democrats lose the election it’s because the people running the party decided Clinton, with all her baggage, would be the candidate before there was even a primary. Any candidate they could trot out with half her baggage would have had this thing sewn up months ago.

  50. Comrade Nom Deplorable, verbally armed and dangerous says:

    HEHEHE

    Check out the last few Wiki dumps. Confirms what we always knew, that entire networks of the media are in the tank for the left.

    Troublingly, the latest dump also suggests (confirms?) that the DNC had a hand in promoting Trump/Carson/Cruz over other republicans in order to get them traction and set them up for Hillary. Other emails confirm that the Dems wanted to face Trump in the general. How is this accomplished? Strategic voting.

    Now, who was it that was calling me out for saying no smoke, no fire on strategic voting? I always thought that the social media-driven strategic voting effort (combined with optimal conditions) was enough to give Trump momentum but I never implied before that the DNC might have been behind strategic voting efforts but now I have to wonder.

  51. HEHEHE says:

    I read a few of the posts re latest dumps. I get a chuckle out of the complete absence of any editorial control in this country. “Go ahead, pitch slanted interview ideas to politicians.” “Give them the heads up on debate questions”. Too funny!

  52. D-FENS says:

    It’s no wonder people who don’t follow politics have no interest in watching the Clinton’s be interviewed. It’s all fake anyway.

  53. D-FENS says:

    Who does zerohedge endorse?

  54. Anon E. Moose, saying 'Come back, JJ' says:

    Essex says:
    October 11, 2016 at 1:56 pm
    There’s a little Trump in all of Us.

    Truer than you probably intended to admit. Which is why the tape release, and the faux shock and horror that followed is so hypocritical, and uniquely leftist.

  55. HEHEHE says:

    Nice spread. Explains the piles of internet ads on his website these days.

  56. No One says:

    But Grim we cannot complain about Rap spreading rape/crime culture because we must celebrate cultural diversity as long as it comes from black people. Similar stuff from the wrong group would become hate speech.
    Our PC people and media/political class would eat a shit sandwich and smile and compliment how good it tasted as long as it was served to them by a favored minority.

  57. Anon E. Moose, saying 'Come back, JJ' says:

    Vulture Alert:

    we have decided to halt sales and production of the Galaxy Note 7,” the company said.

    Doesn’t trade on the US exchange?

  58. Whenever I hear the fan spinning at 5,000+ rpm on my normally silent Mac mini server, it means I left zero hedge open on one of my browsers. All I have to do is shut down the ZH web page and them temps drop and fan speed drops right after that.

    Nice spread. Explains the piles of internet ads on his website these days.

  59. Essex says:

    3;43 you lost me at “leftist”. What is this 1968?

  60. Anon E. Moose, saying 'Come back, JJ' says:

    Sx [18:08];

    What is this 1968?

    For the left its ALWAYS 1968 – marches on Washington at their command; growing scope of government involvement in ever more areas of American life; a pliant quasi-legislature in the Supreme Court not concerned about “restraint”.

    Don’t like the term “leftist”? Own what you are. Liberal, aka classical liberal — libertarian — has been perverted and spent by your side.

  61. Fabius Maximus says:

    Moose,

    Here you go against trybing to throw right wing agenda at the left.

    The last on-command marches on Washington I saw where the Tea Party with the Furlough.
    “government involvement in ever more areas of American life.” There is nothing better than W putting the 4th amendment under the bus with the Patriot Act.

    “quasi-legislature in the Supreme Court.” Wasn’t Warren, a republican in charge of the Supreme Court back in 68?

    I identify more as a Social Democrat. Its like a Libertarian, fiscally conservative, but I don’t thrown the lower rungs of the ladder under the bus.

  62. Essex says:

    7:05 your head is so far up your ass you can see your colon.

  63. Fabius Maximus says:

    Grim,

    I’ll take the other side of the Trump coin. That brand is toast.

    I said when Macys dumped him, running for president was the dumbest move he ever made. Trump Moscow may get built, but that’s it.

    Look at Trump DC. The flagship restaurant, that Geoffrey Zakarian is now conference rooms as no one will touch the space. Trump is suing, he’ll settle the suit and pay up before he has to accept the loss.

    He’ll be a Fox News C list, (i.e. a D list that is not in it for the money).

    The real fun will be the lawsuits. The Foundation is already under investigation and the FEC is going to have a field day with him, for campaign violations.

  64. Fabius Maximus says:

    My Facebook feed is full of GOP heading for the doors. They are saying they are done with the party.
    The big issue is not so much what Trump said, its the response from the party. When CC and others stood up and and said, I condemn the comments, but will stand with him, a lot of my friends hit the exits.
    I don’t post that to gloat, I post it to point out that these are people with a picture of “Saint Ronnie” on the wall. This base is gone and while they wont vote for Hillary, Dems will win on the back of this going forward.

    Can the GOP get it together for 2024?

  65. Steamturd says:

    Fab,

    You are once again looking at Trump through your elitist Yankee glasses. Trump is extremely popular among the populace. Just not in the liberal bastions. He’ll get paid twice what Hillary commands once he opens his own Trump Foundation.

  66. No One says:

    Moose, “statist” may be more appropriate.

  67. Fabius Maximus says:

    New Records Suggest Donald Trump Misled the Public About His Income
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/new-documents-show-trump-misled-about-his-income

    So do we have lying to the FEC over inflating the profits, or lying to the UK HMRC, overstating losses?

    Here is the fun part. Does The Donald throw Eric (who signed off) to the UK, or does Eric throw Daddy to the US?

  68. Essex says:

    the populace will move on and quickly –

  69. 3b says:

    Fab most of us don’t really give a krap about this election any more. Clinton will win. You owe be happy. Nothing will change. It’s all a charade.

  70. D-FENS says:

    Damn.

    Mike Pence took a question from someone at an Iowa rally today who’s terrified about voter fraud and Hillary Clinton‘s presidency basically being the end of the country.

    The woman, identifying herself as Rhonda, said she’s “scared” of voter fraud and said that while she wouldn’t like it to happen, if Clinton wins, “I’m ready for a revolution because we can’t have her in.”

    Pence responded, “Don’t say that.”

    The woman brushed past him and insisted she’s not alone, getting some applause from people in the room.

  71. D-FENS says:

    Bed wetting cucks.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    October 11, 2016 at 8:37 pm
    New Records Suggest Donald Trump Misled the Public About His Income
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/new-documents-show-trump-misled-about-his-income

    So do we have lying to the FEC over inflating the profits, or lying to the UK HMRC, overstating losses?

    Here is the fun part. Does The Donald throw Eric (who signed off) to the UK, or does Eric throw Daddy to the US?

  72. Fabius Maximus says:

    Lib,

    He was already pulling in 1.5Mil per speech compared to Hills 200K. Heck even Rudy pulls in $250+

    Compared to what he has lost he is net negative.

  73. joyce says:

    Fabius,

    I have yet to see your post concluding that you finished reading the latest round of wiki leaks and there’s, once again, nothing material in your expert opinion.

  74. D-FENS says:

    Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain’s intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain’s hair and said, “You’re getting a little thin up there.” McCain’s face reddened, and he responded, “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.” McCain’s excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

  75. Essex says:

    The only revolution they’ll have in flyover country is switching from chicken fried steak to meth.

  76. Grim says:

    Of course Trump lied about his wealth, he always has. He doesn’t have 1:10th of what he claims. How is this even a story?

  77. Fabius Maximus says:

    D-FENS

    Cindy McCain, I will not have a bad word said against her.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncPJMUdwbzo&noredirect=1

  78. Grim says:

    Big man, pig man, ha ha charade you are.
    You well heeled big wheel, ha ha charade you are.
    And when your hand is on your heart,
    You’re nearly a good laugh,
    Almost a joker,
    With your head down in the pig bin,
    Saying “Keep on digging.”
    Pig stain on your fat chin.
    What do you hope to find.
    When you’re down in the pig mine.
    You’re nearly a laugh,
    You’re nearly a laugh
    But you’re really a cry.

  79. Fabius Maximus says:

    Joyce,

    Haven’t had time. But here some meat for you.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/chelsea-clinton-foundation-conflicts-emails-229605

    Chelsea sees the issue because Pops is too far removed.

  80. Fabius Maximus says:

    “Of course Trump lied about his wealth, he always has. He doesn’t have 1:10th of what he claims. How is this even a story?”

    Because at this point we are heading to Jail Time Territory.

  81. Fabius Maximus says:

    Grim,

    Put him in the Fletcher Memorial Home, he’ll be in good company.

    take all your overgrown infants away somewhere
    and build them a home a little place of their own
    the fletcher memorial
    home for incurable tyrants and kings
    and they can appear to themselves every day
    on closed circuit t.v.
    to make sure they’re still real
    it’s the only connection they feel
    “ladies and gentlemen, please welcome reagan and haig
    mr. begin and friend mrs. thatcher and paisley
    mr. brezhnev and party
    the ghost of mccarthy
    the memories of nixon
    and now adding colour a group of anonymous latin
    american meat packing glitterati”
    did they expect us to treat them with any respect
    they can polish their medals and sharpen their
    smiles

  82. Fabius Maximus says:

    Trump will rebuild Fletcher and it will be JUGE!

  83. 3b says:

    Fab give it a rest. Your obsessed with trump! And your rationizations of all of hillarys issues is disturbing.

  84. D-FENS says:

    Thank goodness Hillary deployed her secret weapon.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/two-more-women-accuse-al-gore-of-assault-2010-7

    Former Vice President Al Gore has been hit by new allegations of sexual assault. This time, it’s two more massage therapists bringing the charges.

    The former VP is already in hot water, fighting abuse claims in Portland, where another masseuse said Gore groped her in ’06 and asked her to perform a “chakra release” (massage-speak for “hand job”.) He denies everything.

  85. Joyce says:

    If no charges are ultimately brought (the Florida AG never brought charges), will you say the justice system did its thing and that you respect that? Similar to the FBI investigation of Hillary.

    Fabius Maximus says:
    October 11, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    Because at this point we are heading to Jail Time Territory.

  86. Joyce says:

    It clearly demonstrates Rudy’s hypocrisy. I’m constantly susprised whenever Rudy is also to finish any sentence without the word terror, terrorism, or terrorist included. With that said, doesn’t it also display the reporter’s hypocrisy for not bringing up anything about Clinton, umm, ever?

    Fabius Maximus says:
    October 11, 2016 at 9:45 pm
    “Of course Trump lied about his wealth, he always has. He doesn’t have 1:10th of what he claims. How is this even a story?”

    Because at this point we are heading to Jail Time Territory.

  87. Fabius Maximus says:

    Joyce,

    I am talking outside just the Florida cases. This is on multiple fronts. When you have Trump Corp staff, working for Trump Campaign, that’s illegal!

  88. Joyce says:

    So am I, Christ your grasp of the English language never ceases to amaze

  89. Fabius Maximus says:

    3b

    “Your obsessed with trump! And your rationizations of all of hillarys issues is disturbing.”

    Here’s what you have to understand. I have said it in here for years. In a political race, for the most part it not about you as a candidate, it’s about your opponent.
    This is the perfect example. I don’t have to say a word about Hillary, Regardless of her baggage, I don’t have to deal with it with Trump in the race.

    Now, if the GOP had put up Kasich, we have a different discussion (as I said). Don’t blame me for the GOP implosion, just cause I called it.

  90. Fabius Maximus says:

    “So am I, Christ your grasp of the English language never ceases to amaze”

    “Me talk Purty one day!”

    Does your sentence need a period after it, or was that some subtle dig at my language skills?

  91. Joyce says:

    It probably needs an exclamation point. Besides, your problem centers around comprehension.

  92. Fabius Maximus says:

    Joyce

    At some point I hope you see the irony.
    For me at the moment I’m laughing, so hard it is hurting! (exclamation point!)

  93. You just gave me better setup to a great punchline of a really lewd, crude, and mostly unusable joke. I heard a woman call in to a radio show and said her Dad was career military. Whenever he saw his daughters sitting with their legs apart he would yell at them, “Close your legs, I can see all the way to your breakfast!” Creepy, awkward, physiologically inaccurate, some other bad adjectives, but the basic premise is funny – but unusable for most audiences. OTOH, “You have your head so far up your ass you can see your breakfast” is almost G-Rated. Thanks.

    7:05 your head is so far up your ass you can see your colon.

  94. all the way up to your breakfast

  95. joyce says:

    Fabius,

    Ignorance is bliss. Keep enjoying yourself.

  96. Essex says:

    11:34 I’m convinced that the boomers say the most uncomfortable shit to women. That is just so many of them. I’ve grown up fairly enlightened, but when I hear boomers talk about women….young and old. I cringe.

  97. joyce says:

    hahahaha

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/11/media/donna-brazile-wikileaks-question/index.html?iid=surge-stack-dom

    “This is exactly what the Russians intended to do. And they’re doing it,” she said.

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