So Close!

Posted on February 17, 2017 by grim

NY State on the verge of taking the #1 foreclosure spot:

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177 Responses to So Close!

grim says:

February 17, 2017 at 3:51 am

Last day in Brazil.

I can report that things are very nice inside Brazil’s wealth bubble. The neighborhoods are nice, restaurants expensive, people pretty, it’s quite nice.

Wealthy Americans, and especially wealthy New Jersians, should not worry about the coming Brazilificiation, just be sure you remain on the right side.
soutwin says:

February 17, 2017 at 4:49 am

Trump was great yesterday …was the best ever …..
Essex says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:28 am

Well oiled Machine….
Grab them by the puzzy says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:50 am

@NancyPelosi

Robert Harward’s decision to not take over General Flynn’s old job
is the latest evidence that
the Trump WH is falling into utter disarray.
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 7:20 am

Fabius,

We were great when she lost and the do-nothing big-eared f.uck said bye bye. I loathe progressive jerk0ffs. Its a freak show and he gutted those f.ucks yesterday. Yes, we’re great because I’m making money and for now, my side has the ball. You’re angry, your frustrated and that’s not my problem. I can’t type anymore on a cell phone. You’re a good guy, we met a number of times but we needed someone that was going to bust sh1t up in DC.
yome says:

February 17, 2017 at 7:25 am

CC: Trump made me order Meatloaf lol

No more Steaks for you Fatboy!
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 7:27 am

And Obama hardly held news conferences, he ran and hid.
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 17, 2017 at 7:50 am

Good advice.

NJ is pretty much there already.

grim says:
February 17, 2017 at 3:51 am
Last day in Brazil.

I can report that things are very nice inside Brazil’s wealth bubble. The neighborhoods are nice, restaurants expensive, people pretty, it’s quite nice.

Wealthy Americans, and especially wealthy New Jersians, should not worry about the coming Brazilificiation, just be sure you remain on the right side
Grab them by the puzzy says:

February 17, 2017 at 8:03 am

no taxes, no public education, no rule of the law….an extreme right winger paradise, where the nazis hide after wwII?

been to SP a bunch of times, it’s just like you describe it

grim says:
February 17, 2017 at 3:51 am
Last day in Brazil.

I can report that things are very nice inside Brazil’s wealth bubble. The neighborhoods are nice, restaurants expensive, people pretty, it’s quite nice.

Wealthy Americans, and especially wealthy New Jersians, should not worry about the coming Brazilificiation, just be sure you remain on the right side.
Grab them by the puzzy says:

February 17, 2017 at 8:08 am

@NYDailyNews

Press conference shows something is deeply wrong with our President and the country is in danger

Essex says:
February 17, 2017 at 6:28 am

Well oiled Machine….
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 17, 2017 at 8:51 am

Yup, you can’t have legions of unproductive people waiting for the first of the month check to survive. Need to eliminate or lower the payments so that they will learn how to survive on their own.

And of course I will be called racist because I want to help people learn how to survive on their own instead of waiting for the first of the month check. Such a backwards view.

Really try to help these people to survive on their own= you are a racist
Teach them to survive on handouts=you are an ideal citizen

jcer says:
February 16, 2017 at 3:01 pm
my incomplete thought is the growth of impoverished urban centers has mad ethe tax climate and cost of living situation untenable and has created an economic death spiral in both places where businesses are running for the exit.
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 17, 2017 at 8:58 am

Am I wrong? Truth hurts, huh?

Would you live in a place like Trenton? Why not? Are you racist or have common sense?

ProudLiberal says:
February 16, 2017 at 3:04 pm
@Dumb Pumpkin – which hole are you talking from?

>>but see what happens when you have a state that is predominately made up of educated whites.
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:06 am

Honestly, why do they publish this crap? How many people are going to read this and actually believe the bs?

Should be criminal to publish this nonsense. These people should be ashamed of themselves.

http://www.nj.com/education/2017/02/which_countries_have_the_smartest_kids_see_how_the.html#incart_river_home
Ventura says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:19 am

Eddie if this guy Trump reflects your idea of Professional Management I’m shorting your stock….
Ottoman says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:21 am

Why call you racist when “stupid” fits you so much better?

“And of course I will be called racist because I want to help people learn how to survive on their own instead of waiting for the first of the month check. Such a backwards view.”
Ottoman says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:26 am

Same could have been said for most of Brooklyn, Pittsburgh, Easton and Allentown PA, Hoboken, Lambertville, Asbury Park, Baltimore, Morristown. In a world where Whole Foods opens in Newark, the smart money is on urban centers.

Am I wrong? Truth hurts, huh?

Would you live in a place like Trenton? Why not? Are you racist or have common sense?
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:33 am

Thanks for proving my point. Who exactly does whole foods cater to?

People only move in after the area gentrifies and certain group are priced out making the area livable again.

So I ask again, why don’t you live in the hood? Are you racist?

Ottoman says:
February 17, 2017 at 9:26 am
Same could have been said for most of Brooklyn, Pittsburgh, Easton and Allentown PA, Hoboken, Lambertville, Asbury Park, Baltimore, Morristown. In a world where Whole Foods opens in Newark, the smart money is on urban centers.

Am I wrong? Truth hurts, huh?

Would you live in a place like Trenton? Why not? Are you racist or have common sense?
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:36 am

Dumb Pumpkin,

>> Am I wrong? Truth hurts, huh?

Your claim that white people are a superior race has been debunked before (by facts).

What hurts is your ignorance and your existence.
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:38 am

Yes, keep holding down the people you claim you are helping. Your ilk seem to be doing a damn good job helping these groups. Generation after generation being taught to survive with their hand out instead of helping themselves through hard work, learned skills, and ambition. Good job! Way to motivate them!

Ottoman says:
February 17, 2017 at 9:21 am
Why call you racist when “stupid” fits you so much better?
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:42 am

I never stated that white people are superior. Why are you putting words in my mouth? I strictly focused on facts.

I clearly stated Mass. had less problems because they were predominately made up of EDUCATED whites. If I’m wrong, prove it. If stating facts makes me racist, then debating you is a waste of time.

“Your claim that white people are a superior race has been debunked before (by facts).

What hurts is your ignorance and your existence.”
yome says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:50 am

Camden gets $30,000 per student in State Aid, what do we have to show for it?
http://www.nj.com/education/2016/06/christie_nj_school_funding_announcement.html
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:51 am

Eddie if this guy Trump reflects your idea of Professional Management I’m shorting your stock….

It’s such a vague statement. What does “my” stock mean? You guys are really fascinating. And do you really think I would place all my eggs into one basket? I have no idea what you’re trying to say. Being meek and blending into the background gets you nowhere. Who’s your example of sound Professional Management?
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:54 am

Camden gets $30,000 per student in State Aid, what do we have to show for it?

We can show the manner in which the bleeding hearts wash away their guilt at someone else’s expense.
yome says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:55 am

How much did your school district spend per student
http://www.nj.com/education/2016/04/see_which_nj_school_districts_spend_the_most_per_s.html
Juice Box says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:25 am

Take a vacation on the house.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/02/17/US-household-debt-near-record-levels-Federal-Reserve-report-says/3411487331520/
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:38 am

Well, of course! The Clintons pay very well for debate questions in advance.

I can report that things are very nice inside Brazil’s wealth bubble.
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:39 am

@NancyPelosi – You mean the Dem minority leader who refused to step down amid the destruction of the Democratic Party? Yeah. She should be trusted, if you want Trump to serve for a second term.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:42 am

Here’s something else that old dry puzzy had to say:
DNC and Fake news, perfect together. Hahahahahahahaha.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/15/pelosi-cummings-new-york-times-fall-victim-to-fake-twitter-account.html

@NancyPelosi

Robert Harward’s decision to not take over General Flynn’s old job
is the latest evidence that
the Trump WH is falling into utter disarray.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:49 am

There’s a decidedly non-conservative news radio show on WRKO 680AM here in Boston, 6AM-9AM. I was absolutely SHOCKED at what they were discussing this morning. All the talk was about what an embarassment Jake Tapper and CNN are! I couldn’t believe it. The woman who runs the show went on to say that she watches all of the news programs to prepare for her show, but she can’t stomach MSNBC at all anymore. I couldn’t believe my ears. This is left wing talk radio! They were so heavily never-Trumpers 6 months ago and now they are being turned. Wow!

http://www.wrko.com/morning-show
Xolepa says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:11 am

3:51 Grim. Got you beat. In Thailand right now. Vacation and visiting daughter
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:11 am

Here’s the marketing coup that Trump already pulled off and it escapes everyone’s notice:

Does anybody remember where the term “fake news” came from? Post election, the DNC/MSM complex decided they needed to “take out” fake news. The term was meant to attach to Infowars, Drudge, independent blogs and twitter handles, and by extension Fox and Breitbart. Now when you hear “fake news” what do we think of? We think of CNN and the NY Times. Trump took their marketing term away from the left, shoved their face in it, stepped on their head, and took picture of it for everyone to remember. The left has no way to use the term as originally intended and now they are “Very Fake News.”

14% of Republicans trust the news media.
32% of Independents trust the news media.
51% of Democrats trust the news media.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:18 am

Can I use the women’s room if I identify as a man that likes to watch women pull their pants down?
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:20 am

The left are rabid, livid, beside themselves! They just can’t accept any of this and it’s lovely to witness!
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:23 am

Expat 11:18,

I believe you can otherwise you can claim intolerance. Crying works for anything these days.
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:34 am

I read the transcript of Trump’s press conference. It was extremely painful to read, but at the same time, I’m smart enough to understand that it’s hard for someone not accustomed to public speaking to speak smoothly. All of his predecessors read prepared flowery missives loaded with lots of things we loved to hear, but that weren’t likely to happen. I find Trump’s approach refreshing, and I’m sure he’ll get better at it. But let’s be honest. He needs to get over that feeling of needing to be liked by everyone in the room. The media is dominated by the left. Especially in DC. And the fake news is overabundant. Why? Because the left has absolutely nothing optimistic or positive to please their readers with. So to sell ads in their papers and on TV, they must intentionally leave out certain truths and facts to entertain their audience. Same thing occurred by the right when Obama was in office. Incredulously, the left had no issue dismissing every single Fox news story. Heck they still do when presented with Clinton Foundation conflicts of interest every time. The argument being, that it was never proven. So what’s been proven about Trump?

Most of my progressive friends believe that he has all sorts of mental disorders.

Most of my progressive friends believe that he president to enrich himself (though outside of the same types of conflicts of interest that Hillary abused as secretary of state, senator and first lady) nothing is proven.

In one breath the nprogressives say he should slow down to avoid making similar mistakes as he did with the travel ban, and in the next breath they complain that he has not yet explained his tax break, the ACA replacement and a whole other host of campaign promises. You can’t have it both ways. But if you print fake news, it appears you can.

The progressives are okay with removing sanctions with Iran, but not with Russia?

The progressives continue to intentionally leave pieces of important information out their news stories to fool their readers. (sound familiar). How many illegal immigrants did Obama deport? You don’t know because they’ll never report it. And it’s a “yuge” number dimwits.

And every single regulation that Trump is overturning was created in 2o16 or later. He can’t overturn older ones easily or this quickly. That too is not known by the elitist set.

For every horrible thing that Trump has done, there is a good long-term reason for it. But you can’t accept it. Just accept that the liberals lost the election “big time” already. You were never going to get liberal appointments. And in many cases, the cabinet members chosen have really not been that bad. And most are not lifetime politicians, which is all we would have had had HRC been elected.

Just stop the whining already. It does not help your cause. And SNL is complete garbage right now. It’s totally unwatchable outside of the musical guests. :P
D-FENS says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:38 am

O’keefe supposedly on the verge of releasing undercover videos from inside mainstream newsrooms showing bias in newsreporting…
Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:39 am

The musical guests are pretty awful as well
D-FENS says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:42 am

It’s a bloodbath at the State Department
By Daniel Halper February 17, 2017 | 9:16am

http://nypost.com/2017/02/17/rex-tillerson-fires-top-officials-at-state-department/
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:47 am

Stu,

Solid missive! The only thing I would say is that to read the press conference as opposed to watching and listening has a quite different affect.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:48 am

But how about that “To Sir with Love” rendition? My wife and I are both in agreement that SNL just sucks, sucks, sucks now (and my wife didn’t even vote for Trump). I guess it’s really, really hard to write comedy when you spend your days seething in hate.

The musical guests are pretty awful as well
Nomad says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:51 am

Steamy,

You are always level headed. Does Trump worry you at all? International incident from a major mis-step does not concern you? Every President makes mistakes, too complex of a job not to. Maybe its me and I like a certain level of decorum but his buddy taking a pic next to the guy holding the football and posting on line? Just not cool. I get why many have strong disdain for HRC as neither she or hubby are saints. Maybe we are some type of inflection point where the piper must be paid. Seems like we are all sitting on a powder keg right now.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:05 pm

Stu – I agree with everything you wrote (nice job!) except the line below. Remember, if it bleeds, it leads. If everything was great, no one would watch CNN or MSNBC. I read an article that put out the possibility that CNN would fold if Clinton won. What would they report? It’s like the weather on the evening news in LA. The weather person is always a knockout, C-cup 10 with a short tight skirt and heels and filmed head to toe bent over suggestively while pointing to the green screen. Why? Because everybody knows it’s going to be 85 and sunny tomorrow so why would you even watch the weather unless there was something else to see?

When we first moved to New England there was one thing about the evening local news that I noticed immediately. At first I thought there are an awful of people who can’t swim because there were so many drownings reported on the news. After a while I realized what the real truth was. There often isn’t enough “bad” news to fill the broadcast, so you’ll see way more fatal accidents than you’ll ever see in New York. I’m sure even more people drown and die in car wrecks in the New York area than up here, it just doesn’t rate high enough to make the nightly news.

Because the left has absolutely nothing optimistic or positive to please their readers with.
Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:08 pm

Had to reply to this gem from Gluteus:

““Lest you forget, there are entire amendments to the constitution that your side has done their best to ignore or nullify.””

Lets try it another way. What amendments have the left ignored/nullified, to the same extent the right took apart the 4th?

“As for your comment regarding the Chief Justice, I tend to agree.”

Is that a three way race between your arrogance, cluelessness, or your pure narcissism? Asking for a friend?

Careful,”

Careful? Of you? Looking for a friend? I’ve no idea what that means. Certainly wouldn’t be you. And as for arrogance, cluelessness and narcissism, if this isn’t a case study in projection, I don’t know what is.

As for the 4th amendment, your side of the aisle has done as much to narrow it as mine. Then there’s the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 9th and 10th that the left holds in especially low regard, notably the 2nd, 9th, 10th and (occasionally) 12th. And I won’t get into the left’s on-off contempt for Articles. 1, 3 and 4.

I respectfully suggest you not even think about debating me on these topics. I grew up on them and will beat your sorry Brit ass like a rented mule. It isn’t arrogance if I can back it up and IMHO, you don’t deserve to be in the same building, let alone the same stage, in a debate on constitutional law and Supreme Court jurisprudence & judicial selection. My scholarship on these topics was being published while you were puking on your Gooner onesie.

Stick to hurling insults; it’s what passes for reason in your twitter-verse.
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:12 pm

The only powder keg we are sitting on is needed change. The govt no longer functioned in its intended purpose. It’s like trump pointed out in his press conference yesterday, why did hillary willingly accept knowing the debate questions in advance? How do people defend and act like it would be better with an individual that cheated on a debate? That’s the definition of corrupt and pathetic. Trump is trying to fix the mess these corrupt and pathetic individuals created and people are fighting him every step of the way based on nonsense. How can you support these individuals that made govt into a vehicle of pure corruption and self enrichment? How?

Makes me sick to see educated individuals bashing trump and supporting this old status quo that stuck it in your a$$ on a regular basis. Fu!k the establishment!

Nomad says:
February 17, 2017 at 11:51 am
Steamy,

You are always level headed. Does Trump worry you at all? International incident from a major mis-step does not concern you? Every President makes mistakes, too complex of a job not to. Maybe its me and I like a certain level of decorum but his buddy taking a pic next to the guy holding the football and posting on line? Just not cool. I get why many have strong disdain for HRC as neither she or hubby are saints. Maybe we are some type of inflection point where the piper must be paid. Seems like we are all sitting on a powder keg right now.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:13 pm

I get why many have strong disdain for HRC as neither she or hubby are ~~saints.~~ sane, compassionate, honest, warm, or human.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:15 pm

Trump is a flawed human being. Clinton is a sociopath.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:17 pm

Trump never laughs. Clinton fake laughs.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:19 pm

Trump can’t stand the thought of ever being wrong. Clinton has never had that thought.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:21 pm

Trump can’t ever apologize. Clinton can’t ever think of a reason why one would.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:24 pm

Trump brags about grabbing pussies. Clinton grabs pussies.
Nomad says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:25 pm

Thanks,

Agree that path we were on was not sustainable. I can’t defend HRC’s past as its not good. But you believe DJT is a better solution i.e. he can actually provide change that effectively address some of our major problems? Seems like a lot of hate has bubbled to the surface and is becoming less restrained and I am not talking about the stuff at places like Berkley as that to me was just bad theatre.

Your take on all the pending financial deregulation, seems like another potential disaster? What about Kashkari’s idea to increase capital requirements to fend off TBTF? NY Fed says household debt will be biggest ever this year. 50 yr & 100 yr T-Bills if implemented are in my mind are an admission that the economy as we know it can’t be fixed.

One thing for sure, we need a lot more good jobs in the US and we need them yesterday.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:30 pm

What are HRC’s 3 greatest accomplishments to date? All I can think of is getting rich and avoiding charges.
Grab them by the puzzy says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:33 pm

@AP

BREAKING:

Trump administration considers mobilizing as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants.
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:34 pm

>> Trump is a flawed human being. Clinton is a sociopath.

Wrong equivalency. This is how we got to this mess.

Whether you agree or not, let’s not forget that Hillary Clinton was the most qualified Presidential candidate. You cannot compare them both so simplistically. It’s this complete lack of ability to separate fact from fear is what the issue is.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:36 pm

I think what people don’t see in Trump is the power of personal momentum. He moves toward things and never backs off or slows down. I know a lot of successful people and a lot of talented people, but only some of the talented people are as successful as they should be. In the cases where the people I know are successful on their own merits, they seem to have that same personal momentum. If 3 people are lost in the wilderness 2 of them will usually follow the one who has the most confidence and momentum. It doesn’t mean his plan is good or correct, but at least they get somewhere else.
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:38 pm

What do you have to say about her cheating on the debates?

If she cheats on a debate, what do you think will happen if she was President? Mind you, she had to cheat in a debate against someone she considered a moron. Who’s the moron?

ProudLiberal says:
February 17, 2017 at 12:34 pm
>> Trump is a flawed human being. Clinton is a sociopath.

Wrong equivalency. This is how we got to this mess.

Whether you agree or not, let’s not forget that Hillary Clinton was the most qualified Presidential candidate. You cannot compare them both so simplistically. It’s this complete lack of ability to separate fact from fear is what the issue is.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:40 pm

That means nothing. Even before Obama took office, my problem with him is that he was only good at winning elections, he had no demonstrated ability to lead. And sure enough, he didn’t have that ability. Hillary never accomplished anything positive politically and she never won a competitive election either. Lose-lose.

Whether you agree or not, let’s not forget that Hillary Clinton was the most qualified Presidential candidate.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:42 pm

And when I say “Lose-lose”, look at what she did for the party. I think she intimidated her way to winning the primary as she probably knows where a lot of the bodies are buried. Now the entire party is nothing but intimidated losers.
Ventura says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:43 pm

Stu (my handle changed albeit prematurely) but hey that was excellent. You sir and one sharp dude. You also a good on skates. But one more thing. He IS decisive. I love the action oriented first few weeks. I believe his intentions are good, his Worldview colored by a limited exposure to the vast influence the United States has over the rest of the world. He also is experiencing bureaucracy. If he does what I hope he’ll do it will have a desired effect. But it is always the unintended consequences which concern me especially on immigration. I don’t really believe he will “build a wall”, but then I might be wrong. I think it is more metaphorical. Good analysis though. Now go back to ignoring me.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:45 pm

With 20-20 hindsight, I think this country only had one presidential opportunity to improve before Trump, and that would have been if Romney won in 2008 (not 2012).
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:45 pm

>> personal momentum.

C’mon, you are giving him too much credit.
He’s a narcissistic lunatic – who should not be holding any public office.

George Carlin once said – “People deserve the leaders they elect”. But I hope we can cut our losses. Impeach this guy (there are several grounds for this already). Let Mike Pence as bad as he is inherit “the mess” for next 1+ year. Let Dems take majority of the House and Senate. Drag along another two years and elect a legitimate Prez in 2020.

Go ahead, flame me!
3b says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:48 pm

Ex pat agree except that we had a chance to undo the mistake of Obama with Romney in 2012. But the left would have none of it. Not to mention making fun of his underwear thing. But we know what would happen if there were negative comments about head scarves and hijabs!!
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:49 pm

9:06

Some comments from that article that get it.

“We do spend at lot. Much of it is spent on severely learning disabled kids who will never have jobs or contribute to society. I read that it cost about $80,000 per child,and that was a few years ago.It’s probably more now.

And,in some of those countries, only the best and brightest receive any education at all.”

“We are certainly slipping if we go by the goofy posts on this topic. Same results in comparison since the 1950’s and yet politicians convince voters it is the other political party’s ideas, or a secret method from other countries.

Common core? How about common sense. When we pull out the best kids in a district or even whole state and put them in a single school that school tests as top in America. Check the best high schools lists.

We teach everyone, they teach only the brightest. We resent and underfund gifted kids education.”
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:51 pm

“Baloney!!!

Ok for goodness sake can we have a real article by someone who has taken a class or three in college on this or a statistician?

Someone aware of the reason these numbers are baloney?

Most other countries use exams to separate kids. Tests at age 11 determine the chance to attend an all academic, smart kids school, or be funneled into a trade school. Unless parents can afford an expensive private school the entire school population is continuously separated into going to college or trade schools.

I believe they test at 11, 16 and again at 18 to see if allowed to attend college at all. 11 separates academics, 16 decides if you can stay in school or are booted, 18 is test to attend college.

So we educate and include 100% of our kids, everyone else weeds out at least 50% or more of less academic kids they brag on their great test scores.

Our politicians use these fake numbers to show how terrible our schools are and demand less funding while people who want all kids educated use these fake comparisions to demand their own version of fixing our schools from 1950’s “Russians are ahead due to phonics and real science” to our current “small classes work” charter schools or school within a school small programs.

Just a scam to compare and contrast.”
3b says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:51 pm

Proud as for getting leaders they deserve that would include Obama too.
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:56 pm

@3b,
>>we had a chance to undo the mistake of Obama with Romney in 2012.

What was wrong with Obama? I mean personally, to you? Are you or not better off now than in 2008? The right spread so much fake news on Obama, and he did not even complain about it. He truly tried (and did) to do the right thing.
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 12:58 pm

The market might finish down today. Began the impeachment proceedings.
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 1:11 pm

>> Trump is a flawed human being. Clinton is a sociopath.

“Wrong equivalency. This is how we got to this mess.”

Well, what is it called when tons of your constituents tell you that the lack of focus of the Clinton Foundation makes it ripe for abuse. And you choose to ignore it. What’s it called when you take millions and millions of dollars from Wall Street and then claim you will ring in IB excesses. What’s it called when everyone and their mother finds claim after claim that the Clinton Foundation is a conflict of interest and the world’s greatest pay to play vehicle and you not only refuse to shut it down if elected president, but assign it to Chelsea to run? What’s it called when your party fires the head of the DNC after the absolutely damning Wikileaks and you make this person your honorary campaign manager?

Answer me Proud Liberal. These are all 100% unequivocal facts! This is not fake news. Now who is the unqualified world leader?
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 1:25 pm

Nomad,

Trump doesn’t worry me at all. Though, I do wish he was more polished and less egotistical. Hey. Even Castro (and Khruschev) knew how to handle it when JFK played hardball during the Cuban Missile Crisis. And this was after we failed to invade Cuba and after we put ICBMs in Turkey and Italy that could reach the Soviet Union. I guess what I am trying to say is that world leaders have significantly thicker skins than Phoebe and Preston. Last I checked, the United States was the only country to ever use a nuke in wartime. And it made us look tough (and crazy as sh1t). And that’s what Trump is. I don’t doubt he didn’t pay contractors. And our detractors, who have had the upper hand in negotiations with the weak (Obama), no longer will. That Iran uranium agreement was horrible. Why spend all this money on the world’s largest military if you are afraid to use it for muscle? And don’t forget, Trump was against the Gulf War sequel. HRC…she gave the authority to fight it. But she’s not a psychopath.
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 1:28 pm

Stu,

You’re slammin’ it!
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 1:34 pm

It’s only the truth. But with that said, I was not impressed with a few of his cabinet appointments. No issue with Tillerman, but Devos? And of course, I could be wrong. And I’ll admit when I am. But, I’m hopeful I won’t need to.
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 1:40 pm

And Gary…He’s not all good. That clean river regulation that he just repealed was symbolic, but stupid. It will not provide any help to coal miners who are losing to cheap natural gas, not regulation. And polluting rivers is not good when it’s easily avoidable. Additionally, Trump did a piss poor job on the travel ban. I kind of figured it was illegal when I first read it. I like the concept, don’t get me wrong. But what an absolutely sh1tty first impression.
yome says:

February 17, 2017 at 1:46 pm

I am more worried of China’s build up in the South China Sea . Russia gaining ally in the Middle East. US being put on the sideline.Crazy North Korean President having long range Missile. All on O’s watch. O tried diplomacy,this is where it got us.I supported O on diplomacy.I found out I am wrong. You can not show the World weakness,they will be all over you.

“Does Trump worry you at all? International incident from a major mis-step does not concern you?”
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 1:50 pm

Stu,

I agree. Not all that he does resonates with me but I like the fact that he isn’t blowing fairy dust up everyone’s @ss.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 1:54 pm

I think the major blunder was noise about persecuted religions (Christians, etc.) moving to the front of the line. Either the country has the infrastructure to gate access or it doesn’t. I’m sure a terrorist has no problem wearing a crucifix to get on a plane. That said, I don’t think it was illegal, it just cast more heat than light.

Additionally, Trump did a piss poor job on the travel ban. I kind of figured it was illegal when I first read it.
3b says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:08 pm

Proud Obama simply was not qualified. No real experience in government. Never had a real job. Uninformed and no expertise in any area. Arrogant, obnoxious, self righteous etc zero self awareness. As for me being better off yes . But that had nothing to do with obama and quite frankly most of it came from my hard work.
D-FENS says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:13 pm

I’m willing to bet that deportations will be down under Trump compared to the Obama administration.

You’d never know it the way the newspapers and TV have everyone hysterical.
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:13 pm

I agree with you on the religion thing too. But even with the best intentions, that ban was too strict. A lot of undeserving people (non-mulsims too) were unfairly caught in the crossfire.

BTW, I was at the Devil’s game last night. On the corner of Halsey and Market there is an absolutely rippingly loud PA that blasts the Koran at the call to prayer times. Sharia law is not far away. Trust me.
Ventura says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:16 pm

Trump is making all the right moves where Israel is concerned.
yome says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:21 pm

Not even the President of the Philippines did not show any respect at O. The country is a very close ally for decades.A US former territory.
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:31 pm

Someone does need to look at the impact of the great pussification of our country. I recently had to tell one of Gator Jr’s teachers to fairly grade him because we don’t do his projects and homework for him. Of course, we offer him help and answer questions. But if you looked at some of the work these kids were handing in, you’d think Satchi and Satchi were contracted to perform the work. We are definitely in the minority here in GR when it comes to making kids do their own homework. I did a brief informal survey at hockey carpool this past week and my kid is the only one who makes his lunch for school the next day. WTF?
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:33 pm

3b, >>But that had nothing to do with obama and quite frankly most of it came from my hard work.

Ha. Of course.
Now, what if the very industry you were in, was screwed up by POTUS. Do you think you would have still been successful?
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:35 pm

@Yome,
>>Not even the President of the Philippines did not show any respect at O. The country is a very close ally for decades.A US former territory.

Ask anyone in the world, who they “respect” more. BO or DJT. Tell me what you find in your research.
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:38 pm

@SteamyWhatackles,
>>BTW, I was at the Devil’s game last night. On the corner of Halsey and Market there is an absolutely rippingly loud PA that blasts the Koran at the call to prayer times. Sharia law is not far away. Trust me.

They were probably praying. It happens all over the world (even in non muslim countries). Stop being fearful of the unknown. Have you ever been to an asian or middle-eastern country? You are just showing your ignorance.
3b says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:39 pm

Proud and exactly what industry would a president screw up? Obama was an empty suit. Period.
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:43 pm

@D-Fens,
>> I’m willing to bet that deportations will be down under Trump compared to the Obama administration.

>> You’d never know it the way the newspapers and TV have everyone hysterical.

There is a big difference between the two deportations. Do you know what the difference is? If you don’t know, you should STFU or learn before you talk.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/activists-president-trump-deportations-different-190825392.html
Tywin says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:49 pm

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/02/17/cbss_john_dickerson_the_press_did_all_the_good_work_of_ruining_its_reputation_on_its_own.html

HUGH HEWITT, RADIO HOST: But that one comment — “They don’t trust you anymore” — is a summation of where we are in America, because I really do think Manhattan-Beltway elites have lost the country. They’ve lost it. There’s just no confidence in, I’m not going to say “us,” because I am neither in nor part of the Beltway-Manhattan media elite. I live in California still. But what do you think of that? Is it true?

JOHN DICKERSON, CBS NEWS: Well, yes. I mean, yes, it’s true, and it’s not because of anything obviously Donald Trump did. The press did all that good work ruining its reputation on its own, and we can have a long conversation about what created that. Part of it, though, is what you mentioned about the local weather report, which is to say a lot of hysterical coverage about every little last thing that doesn’t warrant it. Having said that, it doesn’t mean, and in fact, it most explicitly does not mean that the press just throws out the standards.
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:53 pm

@3b,
>> what industry would a president screw up?

Do we need to discuss this? Let’s see a few things at risk with this Orange Turd:

1. Education. Every higher ed college is going bonkers that they will not be able to get hig fees from foreign students. Enrollment is at a huge risk.
The war against anything intellectualism – the number of grants given by NIH for science is already at a low point.

2. International commerce and therefore corporate jobs

3. Tourism

I’m not an expert here, but a POTUS can do a lot of damage – even if he cannot do much in terms of progress.
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 2:59 pm

@SteamyRant..

>>Someone does need to look at the impact of the great pussification of our country. I recently had to tell one of Gator Jr’s teachers to fairly grade him because we don’t do his projects and homework for him. Of course, we offer him help and answer questions. But if you looked at some of the work these kids were handing in, you’d think Satchi and Satchi were contracted to perform the work. We are definitely in the minority here in GR when it comes to making kids do their own homework. I did a brief informal survey at hockey carpool this past week and my kid is the only one who makes his lunch for school the next day. WTF?

How many kids do you have?
I have 3 and each kid is different. The dog’s different too. One packs lunch for herself for the next day. The other could care less if he went hungry.

The pussification is you – if you hear what you wrote!

>>But if you looked at some of the work these kids were handing in, you’d think Satchi and Satchi were contracted to perform the work.

Instead of thinking you need to raise the bar for your kids, you want to bring the others’ work down?
Yes, that’s pussification++.
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 3:08 pm

ProudLiberal,

You’re hilarious. Keep the entertainment coming.
Fabius Maximus says:

February 17, 2017 at 3:14 pm

Eddie Ray

“Is that a three way race between your arrogance, cluelessness, or your pure narcissism? Asking for a friend?”

That actually wasn’t aimed at you. If you scroll up you will see it’s a slight rework of Chi’s response to my SCOTUS post. So its aimed back at him.

I take your point, but I hold my position. While the likes of the Brady Bill did curtail parts of the 2nd, it does not come close to what the Patriot Act did to the 4th.
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 3:15 pm

ProudLiberal. I know more about religion than most here. I’m also much more traveled than most here. What’s your take on Sharia Law? Are you willing to live under it?
3b says:

February 17, 2017 at 3:29 pm

Steam you can’t ask the left about Muslims and sharia law. It makes them too uncomfortable. They don’t want to address that even so called moderate Muslims do not subscribe to beliefs held by the left. Gay rights? Yeah sure? I don’t think you will find a thriving open gay culture in any Muslim country! Women’s rights? Don’t think so. Scarves hijabs burqas all done to keep women down. I wonder what would happen if a woman told her husband she no longer wished to wear a head scarf etc I see Muslim woman with their husbands in the summer 90 degree plus heat and they are covered head to toe in a burqa while hubby is wearing polo and flip flops!! Trans gender and bi and all the other identifiers are not tolerated in Muslim society. And many still subscribe to that wonderful practice of arranged marriage. Of course the left ignores all of this and would just rather scream about the crazy evangelicals.
3b says:

February 17, 2017 at 3:35 pm

Proud first you tell me I am better off because of Obama now you tell me presidents can’t do much. I don’t think trump was the best choice for president but I understand why he was elected. I will condemn trump when liberals admit Obama was a disaster for 8 years. Polished and poised but still incompetent.
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 3:38 pm

@Steamy,
>>What’s your take on Sharia Law?
You must be kidding with this question.
Even countries with predominantly muslim populations do not implement Sharia Law. It is just a boogey man. No one heard of Sharia in US until recently, why? ‘cu the Right wants an enemy and muslims are an easy target.
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 3:40 pm

LMAO! Omg.
3b says:

February 17, 2017 at 3:46 pm

Proud Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to name just two.
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 3:48 pm

The countries shaded in purple are where sharia applies in full, covering personal status issues as well as criminal proceedings:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Use_of_Sharia_by_country.svg
homeboken says:

February 17, 2017 at 3:55 pm

Steam – How old is you boy and at what age did you start him making his own lunch? Legit question as I’ve got my own little ones and want to instill independence in them as early as possible.
3b says:

February 17, 2017 at 4:04 pm

And then of course the tolerant Muslim countries pushed out most of the Jews that have lived in the Middle East for centuries. And then of cours the Egyptian Coptic Christians being persecuted in Egypt. But yes peaceful tolerant religion
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 4:33 pm

Homeboken – Each kid is different. Mine is very mature for his age. Almost too mature (think Mrs. Robinson). He started to make his own lunch permanently in 5th grade. We started in 4th grade. A few other things he does is walk and feed the dog first thing in the morning and he sets the table for breakfast. He also runs into Dunkin to get my coffee on days I drive him to his friends house (to walk with him to school). We live way to far for him to walk, but still want him to get the experience of walking to school so we drop him off a few blocks away. It’s also traffic snarled near the school in the morning and schools not yet open when I could drop him off, so I get to work about 20 minutes earlier dropping him at a friends house. My only worry is that his friends mom is hot! She’s completely MILFY ProudLiberal and totally not a progressive douche bag.
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 4:34 pm

Homeboken – Each kid is different. Mine is very mature for his age. Almost too mature (think Mrs. Robinson). He started to make his own lunch permanently in 5th grade. We started in 4th grade. A few other things he does is walk and feed the dog first thing in the morning and he sets the table for breakfast. He also runs into Dunkin to get my coffee on days I drive him to his friends house (to walk with him to school). We live way to far for him to walk, but still want him to get the experience of walking to school so we drop him off a few blocks away. It’s also traffic snarled near the school in the morning and schools not yet open when I could drop him off, so I get to work about 20 minutes earlier dropping him at a friends house. My only worry is that his friends mom is hot! She’s completely M1LFY ProudLiberal and totally not a progressive d0uche bag.
yome says:

February 17, 2017 at 4:43 pm

More than three dozen undocumented immigrant fugitives were arrested last week in the New York area as part of a nationwide ICE operation targeting wanted criminals.

The list, which News 4 New York obtained from a law enforcement source, covers a wide variety of sexual, drug and other violent crimes.

The vast majority of those arrested come from Latin America; roughly one-third of them are from El Salvador alone.

Among those arrested:

×          A 31-year-old El Salvador national with a criminal conviction for assault with a dangerous weapon in aid of racketeering and self-admitted MS-13 gang member. He was arrested in New Hyde Park, NY

×          A 49-year-old Jamaican national with a criminal conviction for first degree sexual assault of a victim under the age of 11. He was arrested in Bronx, NY.

×          A 60-year-old Mexican national with a criminal convicted for first degree sexual assault of a victim under the age of 11 and endangering the welfare of a child. He was arrested in Staten Island, NY.

×          A 23-year-old Guyana national with a conviction of rape. He was arrested in Richmond Hill, NY.

×          A 29-year-old Guatemala national convicted of rape. He was arrested in Bronx, NY.

×          A 30-year-old El Salvador national with a conviction of rape. He was arrested in Jamaica, NY.

×          A 51-year-old El Salvador national with a conviction of a sex offense against a child/fondling. He was arrested in College Point, NY.

×          A 54-year-old Guinea national convicted of sexual assault carnal abuse. He was arrested in Bronx, NY.

×          A 38-year-old Ecuador national with a conviction of sexual assault carnal abuse. He was arrested in Jackson Heights, NY.

×          A 43-year-old Mexican national with a conviction of sexual assault carnal abuse. He was arrested in New York, NY.

×          A 30-year-old Ecuador national convicted of sexual assault. He was arrested in New City, NY.

×          A 35-year-old Mexican national with a conviction of a sex offense. He was arrested in New York, NY.

×          A 34-year-old El Salvador national with a conviction of a sex offense. He was arrested in College Point, NY.

×          A 30-year-old Honduras national with a conviction of assault. She was arrested in Monroe, NY

×          A 40-year-old Mexican national with a conviction of assault. He was arrested in Staten Island, NY.

×          A 34-year-old El Salvador national with a conviction of endangering the welfare of a child. He was arrested in Hempstead, NY.

×          A 29-year-old Mexican national convicted of family neglect. He was arrested in Elmhurst, NY.

×          A 30-year-old previously removed Mexican national convicted of robbery. He was arrested in Brooklyn, NY. He will be prosecuted federally by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in New York for re-entry after deportation

×          A 56-year-old El Salvador national convicted of robbery. She was arrested in Riverhead, NY.

×          A 25-year-old Trinidad national convicted of robbery. She was arrested in Roosevelt, NY.

×          A 31-year-old Honduras national convicted of larceny. He was arrested in Island Park, NY.

×          A 27-year-old El Salvador national with a conviction of burglary. He was arrested in Bayshore, NY.

×          A 44-year-old Colombia national with a conviction of conspiracy to distribute cocaine. He was arrested in Brooklyn, NY.

×          A 41-year-old previously removed Dominican Republic national convicted of cocaine sale. He was arrested in Bronx, NY. He will be prosecuted federally by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in New York for re-entry after deportation.

×          A 46-year-old El Salvador national with a conviction of cocaine possession. He was arrested in Elmont, NY.

×          A 38-year-old previously removed Dominican Republic national convicted of drug possession. He was arrested in Bronx, NY. He will be prosecuted federally by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in New York for re-entry after deportation.

×          A 44-year-old previously removed El Salvador national with a conviction of police obstruction. He was arrested in Roosevelt, NY. He will be prosecuted federally by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in New York for re-entry after deportation.

×          A 40-year-old Mexican national with a conviction of invasion of privacy. He was arrested in Bronx, NY. He will be prosecuted federally by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in New York for re-entry after deportation.

×          A 35-year-old previously-removed El Salvador national convicted of driving under the influence. He will be prosecuted federally by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in New York for re-entry after deportation.   He was arrested in Hempstead.

×          A 54-year-old Guatemalan national with convictions of driving under the influence/Human Rights Violator. He was arrested in New York, NY.

×          A 26-year-old previously-removed Guatemala national with a conviction for driving under the influence. He was arrested in the Riverhead, NY.

×          A 28-year-old Guatemala national convicted of driving under the influence. He was arrested in Brewster, NY.

×          A 36-year-old El Salvador national with a conviction of driving under the influence. He was arrested in Copiague, NY.

×          A 40-year-old El Salvador national with a conviction of driving under the influence. He was arrested in Brentwood, NY.

×          A 52-year-old Mexican national with a conviction of driving under the influence. He was arrested in Suffern, NY.

×          A 41-year-old El Salvador national with a conviction of driving under the influence. He was arrested in Wyandanch, NY.

×          A 36-year-old El Salvador national with a conviction of driving under the influence. He was arrested in Brentwood, NY.

×          A 57-year-old Trinidad national with a conviction of driving under the influence. He was arrested in Richmond Hill, NY.

×          A 35-year-old Honduras national who is considered a fugitive with a final order of removal was arrested in Newburgh, NY.

×          A 25-year-old Ecuador national who was considered a fugitive with a final order of removal was arrested in Brooklyn, NY.

×          A 33-year-old previously-removed Mexican national. He will be prosecuted federally by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in New York for re-entry after deportation.    He was arrested in New York, NY.

Source: ICE Picks Up Dozens of Fugitives in Local Operation | NBC New York http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/ICE-Picks-Up-Dozens-of-Fugitives-in-Local-Operation-414103903.html#ixzz4YytdaUXA
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The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 4:44 pm

I think Proud can serve one useful purpose on this board. He is perhaps on the road to educating Pumpkin on what excessive, long-winded, and closed-minded( and therefore valueless) posts look like since Pumps can’t see it in himself.
yome says:

February 17, 2017 at 4:50 pm

Most of them were convicted. Deported and came back? That’s how easy it is for criminals or terrorist to come to this Country? Yet, we say Trump is anti immigrant for closely vetting people coming in
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 4:53 pm

The liberals will change their mind when the suicide bombing occurs in their kid’s schools.
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 4:59 pm

@Steamy
>> The liberals will change their mind when the suicide bombing occurs in their kid’s schools.

Just yesterday there was a note from my kid’s high school.
A kid had made statements to his XBox friends that he would blow up his school. Someone notified the school. They had a talk with the kid and his parents and expelled him.
He was a white kid.

Yes, I am concerned about crazy white kids as much as I am concerned about crazy other-race/religion kids.
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:00 pm

@Steamy
>> The liberals will change their mind when the suicide bombing occurs in their kid’s schools.

Just yesterday there was a note from my kid’s high school.
A kid had made statements to his X Box friends that he would b10w up his school. Someone notified the school. They had a talk with the kid and his parents and expelled him.
He was a white kid.

Yes, I am concerned about crazy white kids as much as I am concerned about crazy other-race/religion kids.
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:03 pm

Your annual odds of being killed in school related violence in the United States ultimately amounts to about 1 in 14,076,500.

Your annual odds of being killed by a foreign born terrorist in the United States is about 1 in 3,206,560.

Progressives want an armed guard in every school. They are not very good with math.
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:08 pm

@Steamy Wankles..
>> Your annual odds of being killed in school related violence in the United States ultimately amounts to about 1 in 14,076,500.

>>Your annual odds of being killed by a foreign born terrorist in the United States is about 1 in 3,206,560.

>>Progressives want an armed guard in every school. They are not very good with math.

…and you are brilliant with Transitive Logic!
Grab them by the puzzy says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:09 pm

@Reuters

McCain says Flynn affair shows Trump administration in ‘disarray’
Grab them by the puzzy says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:13 pm

@MaxBot

“The only security of all is in a free press…. The press [is] the only tocsin of a nation.” —

Thomas Jefferson.
Grab them by the puzzy says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:15 pm

@StephenKing

Trump voters who thought they were getting a macho man got an excuse-maker instead.

“Poor me, the press is so mean.”

Get over it.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:26 pm

I guess disarray is the new “meddled”.

McCain says Flynn affair shows Trump administration in ‘disarray’
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:33 pm

How long before McCain switches back to the blue team?
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:39 pm

Phew…market finished up again!!!

Go Trump Go!
Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:48 pm

Your annual odds of being killed by a foreign born terrorist in the United States is about 1 in 3,206,560.

This is a BS stat. Your odds of being killed by a foreign born terrorist increased by 10000% on 9/11/2001 as I’m pretty sure over 90% of people killed by terrorists died on 9/11. It’s an evolving stat and the goal is to keep that stat down. If you get a terrorist or group of terrorists that’s actually smart and motivated, they have the potential to take out thousands of lives in a single day.
Tywin says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:48 pm

Yome, love that list of illegals given the boot. Committing crimes and driving drunk on our roads, there’s no need to import additional problems from the 3rd World, we have enough problems of our own.
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:50 pm

I got both stats from a pretty reliable source. Doesn’t matter though. My point is that liberals usually can’t think for themselves.
Tywin says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:51 pm

McCain is just jealous Trump accomplished whet he couldn’t. McCain labeled half the country “crazy” last year in a Basket of Deplorables moment. Also, McCain is hated by a great many veterans.

In short, no one cares what McCain thinks, about anything.
Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:57 pm

btw, this idea of sanctuary cities protecting their residents is laughable. If you ever sat in New Brunswick municipal court, the illegals in court were always given tickets for the most random thing in the world that no one else was given. The city loved bleeding them with fines left and right.
Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

February 17, 2017 at 5:58 pm

Whether you agree or not, let’s not forget that Hillary Clinton was the most qualified Presidential candidate.

I’ve seen this talking point a lot and am still baffled as to why people actually peddle this nonsense.
Pete says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:00 pm

“Your annual odds of being killed in school related violence in the United States ultimately amounts to about 1 in 14,076,500.

Your annual odds of being killed by a foreign born terrorist in the United States is about 1 in 3,206,560.”

I can’t find support for these numbers anywhere. Fake news?
3b says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:11 pm

Tywin exactly . We have enough of own problems without importing others. And when I see protesters like I did the other day protesting trump with signs in Spanish? Well that to me says a lot. I met many young Italians last summer in Italy who would love to immigrate to the USA. But it’s almost impossible. Immigration reform? Fine reform it so that all people who will not be a burden get a chance to legally immigrate to this country.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:14 pm

McCain can’t stand that Trump put him down for being captured and now he is self-loathing for having to wriggle around and kind of support Trump so he could assure his own survival in the last election, including the primary. Now he has 6 free years to be a selfish, obstructionist, ineffective douchebag and then he’s done, if he even makes it that far. If you ever watch his daughter on TV or listen to that little heifer on radio you can hear his disdain for Trump through her chubby chortling too.
chicagofinance says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:30 pm

Bat guano……dems purposely attempted to disrupt the GOP by switching registrations and voting for him…..

Fabius Maximus says:
February 16, 2017 at 10:44 pm
He went through the GOP primaries, that’s were he should have been stopped. The R’s own that and beyond the primaries, it’s the Sh1t Sandwich!
chicagofinance says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:32 pm

Leave by choice……commit suicide….

Fabius Maximus says:
February 16, 2017 at 10:29 pm
3b,

Funny thing is, I’m here by choice. The fact that I am so invested in this political process, should put some (natural born citizens ) on this board to shame.
chicagofinance says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:33 pm

“If you need lube, you are just lazy.” Rhonda Rousey

Essex says:
February 17, 2017 at 6:28 am
Well oiled Machine….
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:41 pm

Pete…those numbers took a lot of googling to find reliable sources. I always dismiss any numbers that come from government think tanks. I don’t care if you don’t trust me though. The truth is, in most years, the number of school shootings amounts to 2 or 3 deaths.

Compare this to the near 3,000 killed when Muslim’s flew planes into the WTC.

You can do this back of the envelope.
Ventura says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:46 pm

6:33 good lord that’s sexy
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:47 pm

Steamy,
I am curious. What is the background of your intense islamophobia?
At a personal level I mean.
Ventura says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:48 pm

5:58 – Her qualifications were only equaled by her loathsome demeanor.
Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:56 pm

Gluteus

Not aimed at me? I stand corrected but that was confusing by lumping in the responses.

We can go around on that all day but suffice it to say you’re doing three things that I object to. First, you are comparing apples and oranges. Second, you are deliberately narrowing the field of inquiry on 2A in a way that obfuscates the issue, and it isn’t even correct. Third, you neglect, or ignored, the fact that I listed other amendments and articles that were routinely attacked by the left. So simply juxtaposing Brady act versus patriot act isn’t really a substitute for arguing the issue as to which side is more hostile to the constitution.

I’d say more but I am in Clot’s neck of the woods, waiting for my family to get back in the car so we can go on our ski trip. And I have to keep my eye out for Clot .
Fast Eddie says:

February 17, 2017 at 6:57 pm

Stu for president!
D-FENS says:

February 17, 2017 at 7:01 pm

Rumor has it this was circulated in the White House to smoke out the leaker.

Grab them by the puzzy says:
February 17, 2017 at 12:33 pm
@AP

BREAKING:

Trump administration considers mobilizing as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants.
chicagofinance says:

February 17, 2017 at 7:05 pm

1. a dangerous bubble that needs to be popped….kudos to anyone responsible
2. you cannot assume a static response to a change in U.S. policy; there will be a great deal of negotiation……one of the biggest problems with his O-ness was an inability to compromise…..
3. The biggest impediment to tourism is a strong U.S. dollar……would you avoid the UK because of Brexit? Russia because Putin is a scum?

ProudLiberal says:
February 17, 2017 at 2:53 pm
@3b,
>> what industry would a president screw up?

Do we need to discuss this? Let’s see a few things at risk with this Orange Turd:

1. Education. Every higher ed college is going bonkers that they will not be able to get hig fees from foreign students. Enrollment is at a huge risk.
The war against anything intellectualism – the number of grants given by NIH for science is already at a low point.

2. International commerce and therefore corporate jobs

3. Tourism

I’m not an expert here, but a POTUS can do a lot of damage – even if he cannot do much in terms of progress.
Steamy Cankles Foundation says:

February 17, 2017 at 7:28 pm

I am not Islamophobic at all. But liberals have this strange phenomenon that 1) If you don’t like a particular homosexual, then you are homophobic. 2) If you say anything negative about Obama, then you are a racist. 3) If you fault HRC, you are a misogynist. 4) And just today, I saw the left labeling Trump an anti-Semite because he didn’t answer a question from a Jewish reporter. 5) I suppose if I support a vetting delay, then I am Islamophobic.

The truth about Islam is that it is an expansionist and non-inclusive religion. To deny this is to deny the teachings of the Koran. But even with that said, I have lots of friends who are Muslims. But they are not devout. They are part of the 3 out of 4 who do not believe Sharia Law should come in front of federal law. One of my best friends in Los Angeles was a Palestinian. One of the nicest and most generous guys that I have ever met.

Listen. I was born Jewish, was raised pretty conservative, and even stayed in Hebrew School after my Bar Mitzvah. My congregation hinged on Orthodox. It was in my senior year of high-school that I realized it was all bullsh1t. Especially the indoctrination. My children can take on any religion they choose. I am raising them with a faith system that pretty much says something amazing must have created all of this. Also, to be tolerant of all except those who are not tolerant of others.

Personally I am against all religion. It is for the feeble-minded. If faith provides you comfort? Good for you. It doesn’t for me. From my perch, it completely fukcs up the world way too often. But if you don’t fukc with me and my life, more power to you to practice whatever the hell you like.

Have you heard enough?

There will be a great war one day between fundamentalist Islam and the rest of the World. You can fight it and win it now. Or you can wait and lose it later. That is the source of my Islamophobia. By the way, I find the chanting of the Koran quite pretty. It reminds me of my cantor’s voice from my childhood. What I don’t like, is what the words are saying.
3b says:

February 17, 2017 at 7:28 pm

Proud I will take the liberty of answering for stu and myself. Because quite frankly Islam is scary. Just look at how backwards Muslim majority countries are. And of course refer back to my earlier post. Islam’s treatment of religious minorities . Islam’s treatment of gay/ lesbian etc. Islam’s treatment of women. Sorry I don’t want our society to go back to the 12th century.
Fabius Maximus says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:51 pm

I’ll just drop this in here. I’m surprised, I had him at about 16!
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/all-time-best-president-united-states-rankings-235149
Fabius Maximus says:

February 17, 2017 at 9:53 pm

Trump, Lets make a deal, they wanted to secede anyway!
http://planetnews365.com/2017/02/12/mexican-president-agree-pay-wall-deal-includes-returning-texas-mexico/
Steamturd thinking about the remains of Hillary's umbilical stump says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:08 pm

That ranking is about as valuable as the JD Power and Associates initial customer satisfaction surveys. Anyone here driving a Chevy? They’re the highest ranked in initial satisfaction.
Steamturd thinking about the remains of Hillary's umbilical stump says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:11 pm

Let me clarify. They have the most cars receiving initial customer satisfaction awards.
Fabius Maximus says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:13 pm

“If you don’t like a particular homosexual, then you are homophobic”
No, I know many that are completely obnoxious as individuals, but I will still defend their rights.

2) If you say anything negative about Obama, then you are a racist.
No, but I can point to many examples where the the allegation towards him was racist

3) If you fault HRC, you are a misogynist.
No, but I can point to many examples where the the allegation towards him was misogynist. I don’t hear anything about T’s Cankles!

4) And just today, I saw the left labeling Trump an anti-Semite because he didn’t answer a question from a Jewish reporter.
No, it;s more that he is all over the road map from one state vs two state solutions vs What are we actualy gong to do here?
Fabius Maximus says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:15 pm

3) him = her
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:15 pm

Steamy Cankles,
Great story. Quite a few similarities with my background actually.

That said, the hatred you are espousing towards Islam is not going to get anyone anywhere. There are a Billion muslims in this world. You want to go to war, you say? That’s crazy.

Islam has a problem. And muslims face it daily – more so than others Inwould say. Did you hear about the suicide bombing in Pakistan that killed a 100 Shiite muslims?

yoinare only gonna win this with love. The Pope for example know how to solve this. Not President Bannon, who went to the Vatican to rouse up a religious war. There are a lot of crazy people who are not muslims too, but talking narrowly of any particular faith, race or religion only makes you look ignorant.

Cheers!
Steamturd thinking about the remains of Hillary's umbilical stump says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:22 pm

In your opinion PL. In your opinion.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:23 pm

OMG. ProudLiberal is Loretta Lynch. I always wondered what she was going to do next.

yoinare only gonna win this with love.
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:27 pm

I watched almost a whole hour of Rachel Maddow tonight, I don’t think I ever went that long before. You can smell the desperation. MSNBC and CNN are definitely on the ropes.
ProudLiberal says:

February 17, 2017 at 10:46 pm

@Original NJ Fake,
>>ProudLiberal is Loretta Lynch.

I’m flattered. Thank you.
3b says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:48 pm

Texas never belonged to Mexico. It was part of what was new Spain when the Spanish pulled out. And let’s have Mexico restore the Mayan country on the yucatan peninsula including Cancun that they finally conquered in 1910 and which the Mexican army still fought skirmishes with until the 1930 s . Then they renamed it Quintana roo.
3b says:

February 17, 2017 at 11:50 pm

Grim my comment is in moderation. I guess I crossed a line but I stand by it.
chicagofinance says:

February 18, 2017 at 12:11 am

moderate this….
http://nyuskirball.org/calendar/depeche?utm_content=buffer4a53c
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 18, 2017 at 8:49 am

Like I stated all along, and now it’s finally proven. Teachers are not overcompensated, they are actually under compensated based on the data. So stop bashing teachers based on imaginary images that they are living it up on their compensation.

http://www.epi.org/publication/new-jersey-public-school-teachers-are-underpaid-not-overpaid/
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 18, 2017 at 8:57 am

Deciding on a comparison sample

Fast Eddie, this is why your comparison to private school teachers is meaningless.

Damn, this study rips to shreds all the myths.

“When looking at the question of teacher pay, it might seem logical to compare public school teachers with private school teachers with similar levels of education, experience, and hours of work. However, this comparison is inadequate to the task. Private school teaching differs significantly from public school teaching; too many critical aspects of public school teaching lack private school analogues. Public schools accept all students, while private schools are often highly selective and may exclude or remove poor-performing, special needs, or disruptive students. Class sizes tend to be larger in public schools, and the workday and work year is longer.”
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 18, 2017 at 9:03 am

Have heard the same accusations on this board.

“New Jersey’s public education system ranks second in the nation—only behind Massachusetts—in both overall performance and student success (Education Week Research Center 2016), and it receives the lowest percentage of its revenue from the federal government (4.1 percent) than any other state (U.S. Census Bureau 2015). In many ways New Jersey schools demonstrate the success of the public education model. Nevertheless, New Jersey public schools, teachers, and teachers’ unions have come under harsh and unrelenting criticism since the election of Chris Christie as governor of New Jersey in November 2009. The new governor immediately went on the attack, blaming the state’s relatively high local property taxes, the state’s poor public finances and declining credit ratings, and the massive public pension deficit on what he has alleged are self-serving, overcompensated, incompetent teachers (Spina 2011) who resist all efforts at school reform (Arco 2015) and who deserve a “punch in the face” (Layton 2015). At the same time the governor has been attacking public school teachers and teachers’ unions, he has been championing the expansion of nonunion charter schools. While charter schools have faced resistance in the suburbs, the number of charter schools in old industrial cities with high rates of poverty has been steadily increasing. Approximately two-thirds of the 89 New Jersey charter schools (New Jersey Charter Schools Association 2017; author’s calculations) are now located in these cities.

In 2011 Governor Christie, with the support of the state legislature, passed a massive public employee benefit reform bill (Chapter 78) that substantially shifted the cost of benefits onto teachers and other public employees (New Jersey Division of Pension and Benefits 2011). Teachers now pay a majority of the normal costs of their pensions. New Jersey teachers and other New Jersey public employees also contribute more to their health insurance premiums than most other state government employees in the United States (Magyar 2014). This shift in benefit funding has ensured that many teachers have not received an increase in take-home wages since its passage.

This study investigates three related research questions relevant to Governor Christie’s attacks on New Jersey public school teachers and their unions:”
Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

February 18, 2017 at 9:07 am

Proud Loretta

Do not be flattered. She should be prosecuted.
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 18, 2017 at 9:10 am

You catch that? Nj teachers and public employees now pay most of their pension cost and pay more to their health insurance premiums than most other state govt employees in the United States. They haven’t seen a rise in take home pay since 2011. So where the hell is all the money, Christie? Why haven’t taxes gone down? Fuc!king crook. Can’t keep blaming the workers, the charade is up.
Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

February 18, 2017 at 9:12 am

In Windham, NY at a ski rental with friends. This place was built in 1968 and all the decor is original. Rugs too, I think.

Our uber prog friends asked that the weekend be politics-free. But she did let slip that she looked into Canadian visas and said (completely serious) that she was afraid that there will be a knock on the door and she will be forced to wear a yellow Star of David.

Another houseguest is a DoJ attorney. He confirmed that Obama loaded DoJ with acolytes, notably the Civil Rights division.
Grab them by the puzzy says:

February 18, 2017 at 9:31 am

@chrislhayes

It’s a Breitbart presidency. This is what we have.
Grab them by the puzzy says:

February 18, 2017 at 9:39 am

@Kasparov63

Demonizing the media echoes the world’s worst tyrants.

The American people need a free press more than they need a childish autocrat.
Grab them by the puzzy says:

February 18, 2017 at 9:47 am

Let America burn as long as Fast Eddy makes money

@orlandoSentinel
Feds: Ocala man made explosives, wanted to blow up Target stores to buy cheap stock.

An Ocala man made at least 10 explosive devices in hopes of blowing up Targets along the East Coast in an elaborate and deadly scheme to buy cheap stocks of the company, according to the U.S. Department of Justice. Mark Charles Barnett, 48, was charged with possession or a possession of a destructive device affecting commerce by a previously convicted felon.

Fast Eddie says:
February 17, 2017 at 7:20 am

Yes, we’re great because I’m making money…
we needed someone that was going to bust sh1t up
Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

February 18, 2017 at 9:57 am

You catch that? Nj teachers and public employees now pay most of their pension cost and pay more to their health insurance premiums than most other state govt employees in the United States. They haven’t seen a rise in take home pay since 2011. So where the hell is all the money, Christie? Why haven’t taxes gone down? Fuc!king crook. Can’t keep blaming the workers, the charade is up.

The money wasn’t stolen. When we were forced to pay into healthcare (I’m paying close to 8k), it freed up millions of dollars for each district. They had a few options.

1. Lower the budget and give the tax money back
2. Help teachers absorb that massive shock to their take home pay by giving it back or at least a portion of it
3. Hire more administrators.
4. Spend the money on chromebooks

#3 seems to be the overwhelming choice that has occurred in every district I know of followed closely by #4.

People that act as if its so great that teachers have to pay so much into healthcare are misguided because it did not lower their taxes one bit. It did however allow districts to hire more unnecessary staff at the top while chasing talented people out of the profession.
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 18, 2017 at 9:58 am

Right there, pumpkin was right. A crisis created by failure to make required contributions for over 20 years. Nothing to do with an over generous pension. The Great Pumpkin strikes again!

“New Jersey’s pension system faces a continued underfunding crisis, arising from 20 years of the state government’s failure to make its annual required contributions (ARC). Nonetheless, teachers receive better health benefits both for active employees and retirees than private-sector employees, reflected in the greater share of compensation costs for insurance (which is primarily health insurance), according to the Employer Costs of Employee Compensation survey data available for the Mid-Atlantic states, and they receive retiree health insurance (not included under “Insurances”) representing 3.0 percent of their compensation (see Table 1). They, however, no longer receive relatively better pensions or other benefits, as discussed below. Adjustments are made in Table 1 (in the row “Revised public school teacher data”) to account for the normal cost of the pension paid by the state and the addition of costs for retiree health benefits. What does distinguish the teachers’ benefits mix is that they receive a defined benefit pension, instead of the more common 401(k) received by private-sector employees. Defined benefit pensions are designed to impose relatively high costs on employees as a result of employee turnover or early retirement, which helps reinforce a career in public school teaching.”
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 18, 2017 at 10:11 am

Ben, the hiring of that admins was the direct result of Christie’s accountability reforms for teachers. I was told that with all the extra data collection that came with the accountability reforms, they simply didn’t have the man power to keep up. So they had to hire more.

One thing for sure, Christie is a tard who almost destroyed the education system that makes nj a leader in the nation by using teachers as a vehicle for a power grab. He threw out all these lies that he knew people would get behind and ran with it to a 70% voter approval in his second term win. I’m proud to say that I did not jump on the teacher bash train like some here.
Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

February 18, 2017 at 11:02 am

Ben, the hiring of that admins was the direct result of Christie’s accountability reforms for teachers. I was told that with all the extra data collection that came with the accountability reforms, they simply didn’t have the man power to keep up. So they had to hire more.

Ex post facto argument. The healthcare contributions kicked in prior to those reforms. It freed up at least 500 to 600k per district. What I watched was 4 new admin positions created immediately. The increased observations (which are the biggest joke of a reform) forces admins to do twice as much observation. In my opinion, there wasn’t a need to hire more admin to accomplish this. You just have to make the existing admins do their job, which sorry to say, most of the ones I’ve dealt with don’t. When I taught at my last school, my supervisor was in my room 3 periods out of 180 days of school MAX. So the major increase in accountability was that he went from observing me 40 minutes out of 180 days to 120 minutes out of 180 days.
ProudLiberal says:

February 18, 2017 at 2:26 pm

@GOAT
>>Do not be flattered. She should be prosecuted.

There’s a long list of crazy white guys that need to be prosecuted before Loretta can even be considered for crimes. But wait, she’s black so of course you would say that. And don’t give me that “I’m not racist” bu11sh1t you pun.k!
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 18, 2017 at 3:10 pm

Obama/Lynch/Clapper conspired to take Trump down…fast. All they got for their trouble was Flynn.

I’m sitting here wondering who can be leaking this stuff not thinking they’ll get caught in about 5 minutes. Only about 5 or 6 had access to the phone intercepts…that is until 17 days before the end of the Obama administration. If your news outlet isn’t covering this, it’s no news outlet:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/17/the-lame-duck-timeline-strongly-suggests-president-obama-set-up-intelligence-scheme-to-undermine-trump/
The Original NJ Expat says:

February 18, 2017 at 3:13 pm

^^^^^^ I wouldn’t be surprised to see this on display as a centerpiece of Trump’s address today. This should be bigger than Watergate. Obamagate.
ProudLiberal says:

February 18, 2017 at 7:57 pm

The Original Fake – it’s-on-a-website-so-it-must-be-true is so yesterday. With every fake news item you spread, your credibility goes down further. Whatever is left that is.
Steamturd thinking about the remains of Hillary's umbilical stump says:

February 18, 2017 at 9:18 pm

The denial is strong in this one.
Steamturd thinking about the remains of Hillary's umbilical stump says:

February 18, 2017 at 9:20 pm

Just peaked over at the Washington Post. It’s all McCain, all the time. Read how McCain dismantled Trump’s World View. Or better yet, learn why McCain thinks Trump is a dictator. What a garbage rag.
Steamturd thinking about the remains of Hillary's umbilical stump says:

February 18, 2017 at 9:44 pm

Progressive Montclair is even starting to get it. Check out this completely toothless, feel-good resolution. Monclair is not willing to call itself a Sanctuary City. Don’t want to risk that federal funding now. Sorry you lost.

https://baristanet.com/2017/02/montclair-as-welcoming-community-not-sanctuary-city
Comrade Nom Deplume, The GOAT says:

February 18, 2017 at 10:51 pm

Proud,

That racist Meme doesn’t hunt anymore.

And real brave hiding behind your anonymous sock.

Pick the time and place and call me a punk to my face, b1tch.
Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

February 19, 2017 at 8:37 am

There’s a long list of crazy white guys that need to be prosecuted before Loretta can even be considered for crimes. But wait, she’s black so of course you would say that. And don’t give me that “I’m not racist” bu11sh1t you pun.k!

ok fine, you are racist.
The Great Pumpkin says:

February 19, 2017 at 8:54 am

Just hijacking our cities. Try going to their country to Americanize parts of their country, will never happen.

Unreal how out of touch protesters are with reality. If protecting our culture from a reiligion hell bent on ending it makes me racist, so be it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w5oLoW9jZJc
grim says:

February 19, 2017 at 9:27 am

Progressive Montclair is even starting to get it.

What’s progressive about the most unequal place in New Jersey?
Steamturd thinking about the remains of Hillary's umbilical stump says:

February 19, 2017 at 3:49 pm

Shhhhhhhh.

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