C19 Open Discussion Week 21b

From NBC News:

N.J. sees spike in COVID-19 cases as residents slack off on masks and social distancing

Alarm bells went off in New Jersey on Monday as a state that appeared to have successfully flattened the coronavirus curve saw the number of new cases spike by 175 percent in the last two weeks, an NBC News analysis of the latest figures showed.

As of Monday morning, New Jersey had reported 185,537 confirmed cases and 15,836 deaths, according to the latest numbers. The state’s rate of transmission had climbed back up to 1.48, equal to the levels in April when the pandemic was at its worst in the state.

From July 20 through Aug. 2, New Jersey logged 5,070 new cases and 134 deaths, the NBC News figures showed.

Gov. Phil Murphy responded Monday by tightening restrictions on the number of people who can gather at indoor venues or parties from 100 to 25.

“Limiting indoor gatherings to 25 people is a pretty meaningful step,” Murphy, a Democrat, said. “We knew as we reopened we’d take on more risk.” 

The governor on Friday conceded that the state was “standing in a very dangerous place” and he placed the blame squarely on the “knuckleheads” who fail to follow the rules.

“Everyone who walks around refusing to wear a mask or who hosts a house party is directly contributing to these increases,” Murphy said. “This has to stop, and it has to stop now.”

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251 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 21b

  1. dentss dunnigan says:

    First

  2. Juice Box says:

    Body cam footage is out, just like the first prosecutor said before he was removed from the case, extenuating circumstances, resisting arrest.Those cops are gonna walk, no way no how a jury that sees this Video will convict on an intentional murder Charge.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8576371/amp/Police-bodycam-footage-shows-moment-moment-arrest-George-Floyd-time.html?__twitter_impression=true

    Cities will burn when this on goes to trial.

  3. homeboken says:

    Fox News requests a prime time interview with Joe Biden, to counter the airtime offered to Trump.

    Biden’s team declines, says VP is “unavailable”

    Instead, Jill Biden, the candidates wife, is going to be interviewed by a mid-day host.

    Give me a freaking break with this. I will never understand how anyone could vote for a candidate when it is painfully obvious the candidate will not be making any of decisions on his own.

    A vote for Biden is a vote to allow a group of unelected bureaucrats to control the executive branch.

  4. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This is in Georgia. Highlights how dysfunctional our thought process has become due to politics. F’ing this country up…Dems and Republicans.

    “Despite the high case count and the confirmed community spread, some parents held a protest last week demanding that children be allowed to return to in-person learning.”

  5. Juice Box says:

    $10,000 daily fine and imprisonment For a misdemeanor? Our Attorney General needs to have his law license yanked.

    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/08/nj-recommends-10k-daily-fines-jail-for-defiant-owners-who-kicked-in-the-door-of-their-closed-gym.html

  6. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Do you have any type of critical thinking skills? If WFH is here to stay, why the hell did he just lease 750,000 sq ft in NYC? Actions speak louder than words.

    As for Vornado…Short them, I dare you big shot. Put your money where your mouth is. And show us the stock short, I want to see you put your money where your big mouth is.

    3b says:
    August 3, 2020 at 7:20 pm
    Pumps You freaking moron, this is old news, from
    Back in May, where in the same interview Zuckerberg said WFH is here, and many of their employees would be working from home permanently.

    For the last time, you are a teacher, you shouldn’t giving a flying fart about WFH, except for two reasons , work from home will negatively affect the value of your house, and your wife works for Vornado, the commercial real estate company. In short you are selfish. Now go and prepare a lesson plan for your students.

  7. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You think nyc metro area real estate is in a bubble? Are you f’ing serious? You really are something..

    3b says:
    August 3, 2020 at 7:22 pm
    Leftwing: Thanks. Someone who actually knows, as opposed to pumps, who then turns around and lectures you. A shocking lack of self awareness.

  8. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Later in the day, he was asked to clar­ify his re­marks. “It would come from the sale,“ Mr. Trump said. “What­ever the num­ber is, it would come from the sale. Which no­body else would be think­ing about but me. But that’s the way I think. And I think it’s very fair.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-says-u-s-should-get-slice-of-tiktok-sale-price-11596479818?st=hby8whz5tujqqnv&reflink=article_copyURL_share

  9. Juice box says:

    Biden’s most recent “news conference” consisted of him reading words other people had written off of a Teleprompter.

    He can’t handle a reporter asking questions and he wants to be president? At the DNC convention On the 17th there should be a revolt. Too bad it’s virtual this year and everyone’s voice will be on MUTE on Zoom.

  10. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Guy is retarded. Is he really advocating for govt corruption? This is basically like taxing business deals…

  11. 3b says:

    Pumps Stop. We have been through this , go back and read the interview with Zuckerberg in May, when it was first announced about the space in NYC.

    You hate WFH, because it will negatively impact your life. Like I said selfish.

  12. 3b says:

    Pumps Get help.

  13. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    I finally realized it. You are trolling me. You can’t really believe the bs you say. Well played, I thought you were that stupid.

  14. 3b says:

    Pumps: Please get help. You lie about your career, you post under different names, you are obsessed with the value of you house. You hate WFH, even though a huge quality of life improvement for thousands, all because it will negatively impact your life. Please get help.

  15. 3b says:

    Fab I find it quite interesting that you are not a Bernie supporter, is it him, his policies?

  16. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s an asset, tell me one person alive who doesn’t care about the value of their asset.

    Just admit you are a renter, otherwise, you would never advocate for homes to go down in value.

    So if WFH is happening like you state, put your money where your big mouth is. Should be an easy short since you are so positive that local real estate is going down. You won’t though, right? You just like to talk…

  17. Phoenix says:

    Juice,
    You all embrace the law until it comes after you- it’s fine seeing someone else go down.

    Well now Mr. Gym Owner is going to pay. And lawyers are going to get rich, and eventually Go Fund Me goes dry.

    Keep fighting the system. George Floyd did. Resist-that’s what they want you to do until they force you to comply.Bankruptcy or death, they don’t care.

    Just like what is happening with ByteDance. Seizing a foreign company, complaining about it’s data then taking the same data for itself and claiming how altruistic it is.

    It’s the American way. Gangster tactics.

  18. 30 year realtor says:

    Real estate values…my point of view is that the strong surge in North Jersey values is totally due to the pandemic. Looking ahead values are likely to increase as inflation will be the driver. If the pandemic continues into next year or beyond values will be higher but there will be a marked decrease in transactions.

    Pumpkin, do not twist anything I have stated to fit your narrative. I do not agree with any portion of your viewpoint on what is driving the market in our area.

  19. 3b says:

    Pumps: I own real estate as I said. The value is whatever it is. Thousands of people will be positively affected by WFH, thats why I care as opposed to you, who is only interested in your well being, so everyone must return to the office to keep your house value up. Like I said selfish
    No go get that help I suggested!

  20. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    Stop lying. Human nature says otherwise, so stfu.

  21. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Millennials and marriage remain a force

    While the generation known as the millennials spans about 20 years, the cohort is not evenly spread. There is a large bulge within the generation, says Frank Nothaft, chief economist at data firm CoreLogic, and that bulge is beginning to turn 30. Like those who came before them, that subset of millennials is turning their mind to marriage, and moving to properties that offer more space.

    It is macro-factors like this one that will have a major effect in shaping the housing market in the coming years, says Nothaft. Other ones include record low mortgage rates (many banks are offering rates well below 3%) and an ongoing shortage of inventory. Several real estate experts consulted for this story cited the latter factors as important in determining where prices might be headed.

    https://fortune.com/2020/07/17/people-leaving-cities-coronavirus-data-population-millennials-marriage-families-housing-real-estate-suburbs/

  22. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Tales of Americans fleeing cities in droves, however, are likely overstated. According to Jeff Tucker, an economist at the online real estate service Zillow, 64% of prospective homebuyers on the site are looking at suburban areas—a figure that has barely budged from previous years—while searches for property in rural and urban areas likewise represent about the same percentage as before.

    Jonathan Miller, who writes a popular newsletter about New York real estate, is likewise skeptical that America’s cities will empty out.

    “There is outbound migration. It’s certainly happening. But the current narrative suggests there will be five people left in Manhattan by September,” he says.

  23. Phoenix says:

    “$10,000 daily fine and imprisonment For a misdemeanor? Our Attorney General needs to have his law license yanked.”

    Mr. Gym Owner needs to stop resisting. or more pressure is going to be put on him till he cannot breathe financially.

    See how it works….. Comply Mr. Gym Owner, you are resisting.

    Stop resisting.

  24. homeboken says:

    No offense 3b – but I have to disagree with your statement about selfishness. If you can tell me that you regularly advocate for positions that negatively impact your personal incentives because it benefits the larger society, then I will say that is rather saintly behavior.

    One person’s individual stance on an issue will always be tinted with the lens of self-interest. Sometimes, our self-interest also put us on the moral high ground, but that is mostly just coincidence for the average person.

  25. The Great Pumpkin says:

    30 year,

    My previous post says that you should start acknowledging the millennials as the reason for suburban demand and not the virus.

  26. Bystander says:

    Hey 30 year. Can you explain rationale? While I don’t believe inflation numbers being used bu Fed, what do you see as driver of inflation?

  27. Chicago says:

    3b. You are kidding, right?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xZweLtjNxZY

    3b says:
    August 4, 2020 at 8:45 am
    Fab I find it quite interesting that you are not a Bernie supporter, is it him, his policies?

  28. Chicago says:

    1 in every 8 U.S. murders that occurred in a city happened in Chicago.

  29. Libturd says:

    Fab is not a Bernie supporter because he is a DNC guy. Much like Trump supporters can’t admit having a rally in Tulsa in the middle of the pandemic is probably the absolute dumbest thing any president has done in the history of the United States.

    Just to be clear. I liked Bernie because he wasn’t owned. Our checks and balances would have kept most of his more soc1alist desires in check. He’s also such a nice guy, that I would bet he wouldn’t exploit loopholes in our constitution the way Obama and Trump have. Kind of like the way Murphy is borrowing to make the budget balance (which is clearly illegal, but will most likely pass muster in the state supreme court).

    As for the Right having issues with Biden staying in his cave until the election. There is nothing illegal about it. Nor is he required to take his equal airtime, nor is he required to debate. You can blame Trump for this behavior. I mean, what does he have to hide? It sucks, doesn’t it?

  30. 30 year realtor says:

    Bystander,
    I see massive stimulus from central banks being poured into the world economy as the driver of inflation.

  31. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Gyms being closed still…just reeks of Murphy’s ignorance and lazyness. The same way he kept barber shops closed until July. The same way he kept playgrounds closded until July. It’s no different than his idiotic appraoch to the roads. It’s 40 degrees, that’s 8 degrees near freezing, lets brine….just in case…because I didn’t the first time the forecast was FREEZING RAIN!

  32. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Used to advocate for multi party system, but two party works. It’s a constant cycle that fixes the excesses of the previous party in power. If it’s not broke, don’t fix it. This system seems to be brutally efficient based on history.

  33. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Agreed. Large debt says this is inevitable.

    30 year realtor says:
    August 4, 2020 at 9:28 am
    Bystander,
    I see massive stimulus from central banks being poured into the world economy as the driver of inflation

  34. Chicago says:

    I believe in the two party system. You party all day and you party all night.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    August 4, 2020 at 9:31 am
    Used to advocate for multi party system, but two party works. It’s a constant cycle that fixes the excesses of the previous party in power. If it’s not broke, don’t fix it. This system seems to be brutally efficient based on history

  35. Phoenix says:

    Lib,
    I think it was you that stated you believe we need a real 3rd party candidate.

    I agree. Until this happens the USA will ever get better.

    Generation Z might be able to make this happen. There was an article about how TikTok users that are old enough feel Trump has removed their right to free speech and plan to vote, and the younger ones who cannot vote see through the lies and hypocrisy-basically learning.

    Even Trump’s supporters were on there and he is threatening to shut them down.

    Long term it’s going to change the way the youth, soon to grow up, look at the system the boomers put in place to control them.

  36. Phoenix says:

    will never get better

  37. 3b says:

    Homeboken: I make my decisions based on facts, and my own personal beliefs, and what I think is positive for the common good. I have always been that way. I don t view things from how it impacts me positive or negative. If it’s positive for me, then great if not, then so be it. Being violently opposed to WFH because a school teacher from Wayne may be negatively impacted by it, is in my opinion the height of selfishness. He does not work in corporate America, yet he advocates for thousands to go back to the office. In spite of the fact, that when kids go back to school, it will be a huge quality of life improvement for so many people. We have had numerous meetings at work about it,and I have spoken to many over the last few months who want WFH on a permanent basis. The stress of the commute, the stress of the evenings with dinner time and home work and bath, day care and after care issues. Much of this will be alleviated. You know who cares nothing about that. This from a guy who is done everyday at 3:00, and has summers and all those other days off. When my kids were young my wife was home as were most of my friends/families spouses. That’s gone today for the most part due to high housing prices and property taxes, and job insecurity. So two incomes are the norm today. And if WFH alleviates much of the stress of working and raising a family, then people especially people in my generation who did not have these issues should be all for it, and not concerned about how it negatively impacts their house price. Who cares? On another topic I also believe the cap on social security taxes should be raised. It will solve a lot of the issues surrounding its future solvency, and it’s the right thing to do.

  38. Bystander says:

    30 year,

    They did so in 2009-2010 as well yet inflation never materialized (in Fed opinion). Have to wonder why it will be different this time. It gets concentrated into a few hands who simply sit on their billions.

  39. 3b says:

    Phoenix I have been advocating for a third party for years, but I don’t see it ever happening.

  40. 3b says:

    Lib I agree, Bernie not bought and paid for, and his election would have scared the bought and paid for special interests.

  41. 30 year realtor says:

    Bystander,

    I must be wrong, Pumpkin agreed with my outlook.

  42. ExEssex says:

    Bernie would have gone after pharma.
    Soooo no thanks.

  43. homeboken says:

    Lib – Of course campaigning from a basement is not illegal. I don’t recall anyone here ever saying he should be legally obligated to do anything. He can hide in the basement, skip out on debates, he can literally disappear if he wants. All perfectly legal. Good strategy though? I think no.

    I am saying that continuing to support Mr. Magoo in spite of all these developments tells me all I need to know about that supporter.

  44. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    How’s that bs sandwich taste? If you really own your home, donate every single dollar of profit or you are a hypocrite. Better yet, when it’s time to sell, sell at a 20% discount because you are a good guy.

  45. Vornado says:

    He will when he’s senile and his grandson takes advantage of him.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    August 4, 2020 at 10:04 am
    3b,

    How’s that bs sandwich taste? If you really own your home, donate every single dollar of profit or you are a hypocrite. Better yet, when it’s time to sell, sell at a 20% discount because you are a good guy.

  46. 30 year realtor says:

    Homeboken,

    Your response to Lib and your ongoing comments about Biden show that you clearly do not understand what this presidential election is about. This election is a referendum on Donald Trump. You are either with him or against him. If you are against him you will vote for the candidate most likely to defeat him.

  47. 3b says:

    Pumps: BS?? The only one who is a b s artist is you.,How is that corporate career of yours going , you know the one where you were getting raises every 6 months, and your bosses thought you were a wiz. Oh yeah you lied, you are a teacher. And yet you still have the nerve to post here. Then we have you posting under all of your different handles, pretending to be someone else. BS indeed. I will take the 20 percent hit. You claim you are a capitalist, which is more BS, as you want Fed intervention to keep your house value high, and you demand corporate America return to offices to keep your house value high. Get ready for that 20 percent drop in house prices, it’s coming, and as for WFH, it’s here to stay. Now go prepare a lesson plan.

  48. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    My thing about being locked in the basement is, if he loses again, is everyone going to throw another four year fit or are they going to actually recognize that it was a poor choice for candidate and a poor campaign strategy. Biden wasn’t even democratically chosen, the DNC coordinated candidates to strategically withdraw to squeeze Bernie out.

    When the Patriots are up by 30, Belichick will still run up the score. My little league coaches when I was 10 never let us assume we won before the game was over. They told us, “there’s no time in baseball”. You can always lose the game. Right now, Biden is polling ahead of Trump. The polls were universally wrong last election. Why would you put your faith alone in that?

  49. 3b says:

    30 year I understand what you are saying, but it’s pretty pathetic, we should be better then that. I will sit this out.

  50. Bystander says:

    30 year,

    Dufus has no knowledge and bases his opinion on ego. It is like throwing your bat at a Randy Johnson fastball and getting a single. It does make one a pro.

    Yes, this is a referendum on Trump just like 2016 was one on HRC. She had enough haters on both sides. Dumpy does as well now. Biden needs to keep his trap shut and let it happen.

  51. 3b says:

    Vornado: Get help!

  52. Phoenix says:

    I really miss watching football. It’s an exciting game to me.
    Closest thing I have seen to a touchdown lately, and this is quite close.

    “He will when he’s senile and his grandson takes advantage of him.”

  53. Phoenix says:

    “Bernie would have gone after pharma.
    Soooo no thanks.”

    Please explain. I like this topic.

  54. ExEssex says:

    Phoenix the guy had a h@rd-on for big pharma and big legged women.

  55. 3b says:

    Phoenix: it can be entertaining, if somewhat exhausting!

  56. ExEssex says:

    We are all Tom Joad:

    https://youtu.be/_SN1UK8ghGw

  57. Bystander says:

    3b,

    Good one by Vornado. Blumpy did that to his granny. He took a big discount right before RE run-up. Poor lady was left eating friskies. “Don’t hate the playa, hate the game, babcia”

  58. Phoenix says:

    Biden’s strategy:

    “Talk less, Smile More,
    Don’t let them know what you’re against, or what you’re for”

    Biden using the Aaron Burr strategy.

    Or is it the A A Ron for those of you who watched Key and Peele.

  59. Phoenix says:

    ExEssex,

    Like Martin Shkreli and Rosie O’Donnell?

    These are not good clues.
    Help this poor guy out a bit.

  60. ExEssex says:

    b:

    This summer’s housing market is split into two alternate realities, said Heather Long at The Washington Post. Realtors’ cellphones have been “ringing with eager buyers” looking to flee urban areas for the suburbs while mortgage interest rates are at record lows. One house on the market outside Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, “received 26 offers the initial weekend it was for sale.” For renters, on the other hand, the outlook is grim. A federal eviction moratorium expired last week, meaning that many tenants could have only 30 days to pony up what they owe landlords or get kicked to the curb. This week, Congress signaled it would extend the moratorium to give renters more breathing room while debating whether to extend other aid, such as unemployment benefits and stimulus checks — some of “the few lifelines renters had during the pandemic.”

    The eviction wave has already started, said Will Parker at The Wall Street Journal. The national moratorium only covered tenants in buildings with federally backed mortgages. States passed their own eviction limits, but some, such as Texas, have already let them expire. In a sign of things to come, attorneys in Houston are seeing “long lines at courthouses, sometimes people standing shoulder to shoulder” awaiting eviction hearings. “Stuck between tenants who can’t, or simply won’t, pay up and banks that still expect mortgage payments every month,” landlords are also feeling the squeeze, said Tim Logan at The Boston Globe. In Massachusetts, a fifth of the landlords say “they don’t know how they will pay their bills this year.” That will only get worse if the state extends its eviction ban without help for property owners.

    There’s a simple reason for this recession’s “uneven” effect on the housing market, said Joy Wiltermuth at MarketWatch​. The median income for homebuyers today is $93,000, while renters are substantially poorer and “householders earning less than $35,000 a year have been hit hardest by lost wages since early May.” Just don’t assume wealthier homeowners are bulletproof, said Keith Jurow, also at MarketWatch. Since 2016, “mortgages offered to high-income borrowers who could afford the monthly payments seemed the least risky of all.” Origination of jumbo loans — mortgages that are too big to be backed by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac — skyrocketed. But now many high-income borrowers are in trouble, too. As of mid-June, “11.8 percent of all jumbo loans were in forbearance” — twice as many as in April, and a higher share than for standard mortgages.

  61. 3b says:

    Bystander: I missed it on the Vornado one, it went over my head, went back and read it. You are right, its a good one. I had been ignoring pumps for a while, then I went back to responding when he started his campaign against WFH. Need to go back to ignoring him.

  62. Phoenix says:

    It did not go over my head.
    Before Bystander’s replay I called it a touchdown.

  63. Libtard says:

    Gold at 2K. Chi is an ass (2 party joke). Phoenix, I agree with you about the next generation, but someone has to convince those idiots to vote. Busy day. Off to Union.

  64. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yet, I’m continuously correct. Such a hater..

    Bystander says:
    August 4, 2020 at 10:20 am
    30 year,

    Dufus has no knowledge and bases his opinion on ego. It is like throwing your bat at a Randy Johnson fastball and getting a single. It does make one a pro.

  65. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I didn’t take advantage of anything. You guys bust my balls because I positioned myself to buy a house at a young age. Unlike you, I go get it.

    Vornado says:
    August 4, 2020 at 10:09 am
    He will when he’s senile and his grandson takes advantage of him.

  66. The Great Pumpkin says:

    3b,

    Ever think about how dumb your position is. He claims it’s helping people when housing goes down. Do you understand the ownership rate is around 60%. So you are advocating for hurting the majority to help the minority. Saint 3b!! What a good guy. Smart one, I’ll tell you.

  67. 3b says:

    Pumps Reading comprehension and retention are so important. You should work on those skills.

  68. Bystander says:

    I have always loved that he replies to Dufus. My Pavlov training is complete.

  69. Phoenix says:

    From one school district.

    Bwahhaaaaaaaa.

    FACE COVERINGS – ADULTS: Face coverings will be worn by all faculty and staff unless doing so would inhibit the individual’s health.

  70. IgnorePumps RaiseYourIQ says:

    30 yrs,

    Your hunch that RE prices will increase because of inflation might be right.

    However, the people that finance those loans actions’ are saying “no way”.

    https://confoundedinterest.net/2020/08/04/tighten-up-banks-raise-loan-loss-provisions-as-they-tighten-lending-standards-across-the-board-more-covid-lockdown-costs-to-economy/

  71. Phoenix says:

    Well I can’t tell you how much the prices are going up but you can be sure as feces your taxes will.

    Great storm. The amount of energy in the atmosphere and ocean due to global warming will drive more like this.

    I really love nature.

  72. SomeOne says:

    Juice @7:44

    Have you considered petitioning the President to award the medal of freedom to the police officer?

  73. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Just came in from watching the storm for a few minutes. It’s intense, but calming somehow.

  74. Phoenix says:

    and ExEssex,
    Some love Cankles and Pump Fat.

    Don’t be a hater.

  75. Juice Box says:

    Whoops there goes the power. On generator for now.

  76. 3b says:

    Anyone familiar with Block Island?

  77. homeboken says:

    Phoenix – Key and Peele – Bismo Funyuns was my favorite, though hard to pick just one.

  78. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    My home was built 10 years after everyone elses. Whoever hooked up the home initially for electric put us on some other grid. We never lose power. Meanwhile, the whole neighborhood is out. Last time, the PSEG guys thought I was messing with them because we had power and nobody else did.

  79. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Literally lost power 15 seconds after typing that. Serves me right.

  80. Hold my beer says:

    3b

    I’ve been to block island a few times on day trips. Bring your own food and drinks. The few restaurants always had huge lines And there are no big supermarkets, I think just convenience stores. There are a few places right by the ferry landing that rent bikes. All shops and restaurants were right by the landing. That’s about all I can remember.

  81. Bystander says:

    Typical Trump, while idea may be correct, he has no plan and just randomly targets. Of course, probably not random as they started to focus more on clean energy and not coal. Among his biggest failure is not addressing H1B / outsourcing even though he had years and even campaigned on it. Slamming people now, with only a few months to go until election, is pure hubris.

    “President Trump fired two members of the Tennessee Valley Authority’s board of directors on Monday, including the chair Trump himself had appointed earlier in his term, over the giant federally owned utility’s decision to outsource some technology jobs.

    At a midday White House meeting that included a handful of TVA employees, the president issued an executive order and singled out the TVA for “unfairly replacing American workers with low-cost foreign labor.”

    But that’s not the case. The TVA contracts, which require the work be done on U.S. soil, are the same as those issued by other federal agencies and do not specify whether the contractors use U.S. workers or skilled foreigners working in the United States legally, TVA spokesman Jim Hopson said.”

  82. Bystander says:

    “But that’s not the case. The TVA contracts, which require the work be done on U.S. soil, are the same as those issued by other federal agencies and do not specify whether the contractors use U.S. workers or skilled foreigners working in the United States legally, TVA spokesman Jim Hopson said.”

    Hey, here is an idea…explicitly state that they have to be done by US citizenbs. Same sh&t happened in Hartford when Infosys said they would open tech center. 1000 jobs and 14mil from state. Purposely, politicians never placed language that they have to go to US citizens. It is a sham.

  83. Juice Box says:

    School reopens in Georgia, inperson learning. I would think there will be an explosion of Covid there by Sept 14th when many NJ schools finally reopen.

    https://twitter.com/GAFollowers/status/1290437298685968385/photo/1

  84. 3b says:

    Hold: Thanks. We were looking for somewhere to go for a few days. Had talked about Block Island in the past. Thinking it might not be too crowded end of August.

  85. homeboken says:

    30 yr – I’ve said this previously – any election involving an incumbent is a refferrendum on the incumbent.

    That’s not some brilliant analysis, it’s literally how most every election goes.

    Why run Biden at all? If it’s only Trump or Not Trump why pick Biden?

    That’s my question. There is a reason why they picked the weakest candidate out of a dozen or more field.

    Help me understand why Biden is better than Bernie, Pete, Warren, Harris, etc.

  86. 30 year realtor says:

    Ignore,

    Sharp rise in delinquencies will get lenders to tighten lending standards. It is estimated that about 25% of mortgages are 30 days late or more. Not sure if that accounts for huge number of forbearance agreements.

  87. 3b says:

    Home: Biden is bought and paid for, and will follow the instructions from the DNC, and the special interests.

  88. 30 year realtor says:

    Biden is as vanilla a candidate as the DNC could choose. When presented with an array of choices most people don’t choose vanilla. However when serving a large group of people vanilla is widely accepted.

    Politics is like a sh#t sandwich. Serving size is a major factor. Trump is more sh#t than most people can stomach.

  89. 3b says:

    Power just went out by me in Bergen Co.

  90. Juice Box says:

    Might be a while to get power back, outage map below shows 1/2 our regions customers affected.

    652,558 outages Served Customers: 1,131,724

    I have 10 gallons of gas in cannisters and 5 gallons in my generator. Fridges, TV, Internet are all powered up for now. It is calm here now so I will grill some burgers tonight as planned.

    http://outages.firstenergycorp.com/nj.html

  91. chicagofinance says:

    To quote AP & Depeche Mode …. :Wrong”

    Consumers, Flush With Stimulus Money, Shun Credit-Card Debt
    Rather than rising as expected when unemployment soared amid coronavirus lockdowns, credit-card debt in the U.S. and other advanced economies has dropped”

    IgnorePumps RaiseYourIQ says:
    August 4, 2020 at 11:44 am
    30 yrs,

    Your hunch that RE prices will increase because of inflation might be right.

    However, the people that finance those loans actions’ are saying “no way”.

    https://confoundedinterest.net/2020/08/04/tighten-up-banks-raise-loan-loss-provisions-as-they-tighten-lending-standards-across-the-board-more-covid-lockdown-costs-to-economy/

  92. chicagofinance says:

    Juice: to power Colts Neck, south Holmdel, but Lincroft & Red Bank with power.
    You must be right on the fringe…..

    Juice Box says:
    August 4, 2020 at 2:21 pm
    Might be a while to get power back, outage map below shows 1/2 our regions customers affected.

    652,558 outages Served Customers: 1,131,724

    I have 10 gallons of gas in cannisters and 5 gallons in my generator. Fridges, TV, Internet are all powered up for now. It is calm here now so I will grill some burgers tonight as planned.

  93. chicagofinance says:

    not “to power” ….no power

  94. chicagofinance says:

    just looking backward at posts….. juice…. your house and mine must be on the same circuit that went down……

  95. chicagofinance says:

    All things being equal, real estate prices rise when incomes rise…..

    IgnorePumps RaiseYourIQ says:
    August 4, 2020 at 11:44 am
    30 yrs,

    Your hunch that RE prices will increase because of inflation might be right.

  96. chicagofinance says:

    If you believe in such a follow through from a set of conditions, then….
    https://youtu.be/-oVPPAj5asg?t=54

    30 year realtor says:
    August 4, 2020 at 9:28 am
    Bystander,
    I see massive stimulus from central banks being poured into the world economy as the driver of inflation.

  97. ExEssex says:

    Trump’s shoutout to the Jews….

    https://twitter.com/amerindependent/status/1290664895353106433?s=21

    Yo’ Semite…

  98. JCer says:

    Oddly enough I have power lines in my back yard running through a forest that looks like something out of south east asia, PSEG has repeatedly said they need to remove trees yet only came once said they would come back but never have. I have 2 trees/limbs draped through the power lines but I still have power! The yard cleanup is going to suck.

  99. No One says:

    My power kept going on/off around 12, but has been out for the last 3 hours. My area often loses power in storms. My 20kw nat-gas whole house generator is doing all the work now. It ran for a couple of days without problems a couple years ago, seems ready to do so again.

  100. crushednjmillenial says:

    Personally, when I get pulled over, I open my window, turn off my car and place both hands on my steering wheel. When the officer wants to see papers, I tell him where I need to reach for the papers and ask if it is ok to do so. Then, I reach toward the papers slowly. In my opinion, this should be required learning as part of driver’s education in high school.

    If the officer shot Mr. Floyd at some point during the initial interaction while Mr. Floyd was still seated in the car, I would have exonerated as a juror. In my opinion, it is not acceptable to be reaching all over and flailing around while a police officer is at your car’s window. Not trying to be controversial, I just take a dim view of of not keeping your hands visible when interacting with the police. It’s bad for the officer and it’s bad for the civilian.

  101. crushednjmillenial says:

    Other George Floyd comments. During the video, he was treated with professionalism and respect.

    From the video, Mr. Floyd appears to have visibly been on drugs that made him unreasonably agitated and paranoid.

    The video doesn’t change that the kneeling on his neck for a prolonged period of time was a crime, but it seems clear that it wouldn’t have happened if Mr. Floyd had not been on drugs. Instead, if sober, Mr. Floyd would have likely sat in the back of the police car with the window open like a normal person. Like a lot of the police violence videos I have seen, the suspect does things that should be considered outrageous before the police use unreasonable violence.

  102. Juice Box says:

    Neck restraint is legal and the officers were trained to use it.

    Motion to dismiss contain the training manual.

    Neck Restraint 25 Minutes
    Compressing one or both sides of person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to
    the trachea or airway 09min: ofthe neck) Non-Deadly Force Option
    Two Applications Conscious Unconscious

    http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12951-TKL/Exhibit67807072020.pdf

  103. leftwing says:

    “Like a lot of the police violence videos I have seen, the suspect does things that should be considered outrageous…”

    Just fcuking comply. That simple.

    Lack thereof does not excuse subsequent criminal behavior by LEO. But nearly all of these incidents do not escalate had the CRIMINAL just complied.

    And, yeah, I will go there….before screaming racism regarding outcomes without causality will someone please do a study as to why certain demographics have much higher rates of injurious interaction with LEO than others…

    Just. Fcuking. Comply.

  104. JCer says:

    Juice, that is correct he was not choking him. That being said from the looks of it there was excessive force used. I really didn’t think they should have even charged the other officers, frankly Chavin was the commanding officer and used the neck restraint. He proceeded far longer than necessary and did not administer any aid when it was obvious to anyone looking that Floyd passed out and was in medical distress.

    That being said there have been similar incidents involving white people where the officers are not even charged(which I don’t think is right either). In general the argument is that despite the officer’s actions causing his death he reasonably could not be expected to know that his actions would be fatal. If you or I were held in a similar hold for 8 minutes we would most certainly be alive afterwards. But we did not have underlying heart conditions, covid, and sh*t tons of Fentanyl and meth in our systems(seriously the tox screen shows levels high enough I don’t understand how he was conscious. In most jurisdictions you would it would not be considered it murder, a murder charge would be prosecutorial overreach there was no intent to kill. In MN I though the original prosecutor probably had their best case with 3rd degree murder.

    Listen the cops were doing their job, Floyd would not cooperate, there was going to be a physical altercation as a result, the officer took it too far and Floyd died a result. That isn’t murder, it’s manslaughter…..

  105. ExEssex says:

    Timberrrr

  106. Fabius Maximus says:

    I dont like Bernie (and his brother) for many reasons. The main one being that he is still stuck in the 60s 70s mindset. Life has moved on and todays working families are facing a completely different set of issues than our parents faced. Time to hand it over to the next generation. I don’t have a problem with Independents caucusing with the Dems, but that tail should not wag the dog. He is still an independent and not a Dem. That lesson was learnt with Joe Lieberman. Overall outside of the north east, he is unelectable. A lot of people hear “Social1st” and immediately switch off. The campaign against him would have been brutal. If they dont turn off, he comes across as your deranged uncle. Larry David nailed the impression.

    I like Pelosi. We need her where she is. I don’t need a weak leader that the GOP will run rings round. I need someone going toe to toe with McConnell to stop the GOP BS. The fact that she can needle Donnie is a bonus.

    We have GOP collecting signatures for Kanye to get him on the ballot. He has serious mental health issues and they want to use him to split the Dem vote in state like WI. Thats a little sick.

    We now have leaks that the WH is planning to have GOP Governors submit their own slate of electors. Think about that one. Donnie loses FL and TX and DeSantis and Abbot send pro Trump electors to the college. Barr will sign off on it and it will be down to SCOTUS to sort it out.

  107. Fabius Maximus says:

    When I listened to that Trump interview all I got was Spinal Tap.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgx4k83zzc

  108. Fabius Maximus says:

    Its funny the conversations you have with people today. The big topic is always how CoVid is affecting you and a lot of discussions are around work. First, are you still working? Second seems to be more and more, has there been a Salary Cut?

    I have a few friends in Commercial RE. While in the good days they made great coin, one had Salary slashed in April, which even I though was early.

    Getting a lot of “Hiring is now internal only”. Excuse is that you cant get people face to face, but I think everyone is battening down the hatches. How we make it to January will be interesting. What happens after January is anyone’s guess.

    Best comment I heard on the radio today was that if the Eviction Moratorium is lifted and the landlords start to clear the properties, who exactly are they going to re-rent to? The lines around the courthouses are going to start to mirror those at the DMV.

  109. grim says:

    Murphy silent on property tax moratoriums, halting of tax liens and tax sales. Do as I say, not as I do.

  110. grim says:

    NJ will never lift the eviction moratorium. They’ll wait until the pipeline is so full that the process grinds to a halt, and then they’ll start to allow them to trickle through. The executive order is clear, the moratorium is over two months after Murphy says the Covid crisis is over.

  111. homeboken says:

    Fab says – time to hand it off to the next generation…the next sentence tells us how he really likes the Speaker of the House with 34 years in elected office.

    Pick a lane sport.

  112. grim says:

    Getting a lot of “Hiring is now internal only”. Excuse is that you cant get people face to face, but I think everyone is battening down the hatches. How we make it to January will be interesting. What happens after January is anyone’s guess.

    We hired more than 10,000 globally since the start of COVID, and are on track to hire another 7,000 more through the holiday season. We would have hired an additional 20,000 employees on top of that if we could find them to even be able to hire. Work from home around the globe has eliminated all physical barriers to growth. We are hiring talent from all over the industry if we hear they were cut, or willing to jump. All that doesn’t even begin to ponder the potential growth through acquisition.

    We are going to see another big wave of consolidation across a number of verticals. The big have clearly won COVID, and are in a position to take marketshare on the cheap.

    Chi was right a few months back when he said, there are only two kinds of companies right now. Those looking for a way not to fail, and those who are building the Death Star.

  113. Juice Box says:

    MIT says you are wacist now if you setup plans to homeschool your children during the pandemic.

    Parents across the US are frantically gathering groups of similar-age kids to be taught at home. But these pandemic pods are overwhelmingly white, able-bodied, and well-off, with the means to hire private tutors and space in their homes to host classes.

    https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/07/30/1005810/american-parents-are-setting-up-homeschool-pandemic-pods-microschool/?utm_medium=tr_social&utm_campaign=site_visitor.unpaid.engagement&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1596560612

  114. 30 year realtor says:

    Regarding the eviction moratorium…last sheriff sale in NJ was 3/13. Anyone who had a home scheduled for sale on 3/13 or a future date was already delinquent before Covid. They have now received a reprieve of indeterminate length.

    It would appear that setting up sheriff sales online rather than in person would be a simple process. The State of NJ is not interested in doing this. If they were, it would already be up and running.

  115. Juice Box says:

    Should have hung up a BLM protest sign.

    Sheriff’s deputies on Saturday intercepted the Liberty Belle at Manhattan’s Pier 36 on the East River and arrested the owners for an illegal party.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/04/us/nyc-party-boat-intercepted-trnd/index.html

  116. NJCoast says:

    Got power back on around 2:30am.

  117. Fabius Maximus says:

    Home,

    Pelosi is still bringing an A game, as is RBG and others. Joe has tread left on the tires.
    Bernie is giving the same spiel. Minimum wage and healthcare for all will be the answer. These are important, but now need different approaches. If $15 is bad for business we need to look elsewhere to address the underlying costs that drive the number to $15. Reduce the costs of food, rent healthcare and the number can drop.

    From my feed today.
    Compared with this time last year, prices for:

    * beef/veal: up 25.1%
    * eggs: 12.1%
    * pork: up 11.8%
    https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1290973943097102338

    Race, gender issues also need new perspectives.

  118. Juice Box says:

    Up early and spent the morning manning the chainsaw, all cleaned up and out on the street, got out early to beat the heat. Mayor posted they will be around to pick up the branches in a few days.

    Anecdotal: Two college age men came by and offered to do the cleanup. They wanted $400. I told em I could do it faster alone than the two of them together, they laughed and walked off. I saw them drive by my pile of lumber in the street a few minutes ago and i gave them the thumbs up!

  119. Fabius Maximus says:

    Grim,

    I am sure you are expanding globally and picking up the staff your new and existing clients are dumping from the same roles. How many of those jobs are US and come with Bennies. Your website show 70 openings in the US.

  120. Fabius Maximus says:

    NJCoast,

    Came across this cheese article. Thought you would be interested.
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-gastronomy/how-a-cheese-goes-extinct

  121. Grim says:

    Parents across the US are frantically gathering groups of similar-age kids to be taught at home. But these pandemic pods are overwhelmingly white, able-bodied, and well-off, with the means to hire private tutors and space in their homes to host classes.

    We are doing this with friends in town. There are 4 of us involved. We interviewed and hired a teacher already. One of the parents has volunteered to convert their large sunroom into a classroom.

    We may let 1-2 more kids in. 3 days a week, to correspond with Wayne proposing 2 days in school.

    It’s expensive.

  122. Fabius Maximus says:

    And the GOP and the WH continue to try and put a thumb on the Voting Registrar.

    The Census Bureau is stopping its essential counting of the US population on Sept. 30, four weeks earlier than planned.

    https://twitter.com/just_security/status/1290983702693060612

  123. Phoenix says:

    “We are doing this with friends in town. There are 4 of us involved. We interviewed and hired a teacher already. One of the parents has volunteered to convert their large sunroom into a classroom.

    We may let 1-2 more kids in. 3 days a week, to correspond with Wayne proposing 2 days in school.

    It’s expensive.”

    I guess there is a limit to outsourcing after all. Works out great for the teachers, cash under the table, bennies from the taxpayer. Sounds great. Now they just need to make time to picket refusing to return to work for safety issues.

  124. Phoenix says:

    Saying something is overwhelmingly white, able-bodied, and well-off is just a factual statement.

    Did it actually say something like this?:
    “MIT says you are wacist now if you setup plans to homeschool your children during the pandemic.”

  125. Phoenix says:

    “Two college age men came by and offered to do the cleanup. They wanted $400. I told em I could do it faster alone than the two of them together, they laughed and walked off. I saw them drive by my pile of lumber in the street a few minutes ago and i gave them the thumbs up!”

    And if they were 2 illegals and offered to do it for 100.oo, would you have said yes?

    And 3 hours later, if this happened, would your neighbor “Karen” have called ICE on them..

  126. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I swear, stupid is spreading in this country on a national scale. You are honestly going to shame parents for making a major investment in their child’s future. Based on the instantaneous remote learning that was put into place in March, it wasn’t effective. These are major gaps that are going to be working their way through the system over the next 12 years. Any time a kid gets a deficient teacher in say a subject like Algebra 1, we see it ripple through the next 4 years.

    This year, has all the makings of a lost year already. First off, the movement to shut down schools is a toxic one. Personal choice is essential here. If you want to keep your kid home, great, I understand. But don’t expect others to do it as well. I need to meet with my students face to face this September. We need to establish procedures, expectations, and relationships. The only reason I was able to succeed in March-June was because I had over 1/2 of a school year to establish those things. I need 1 month to do that. I fully expect us to have to shut down periodically in the late fall, either as a precaution for the flu season which creates the ideal conditions for virus spread, or because of positive cases. If we do these shutdowns after the fact, I can work through them. If you are asking me to be remote exclusively from Sep to Feb, it’s going to be a complete train wreck.

    The current proposals coming from the unions lawmakers in this state propose us starting out remote and then possibly returning in October. Oh that’s friggin genius. Let’s start out on screen and then send you back in late October when people normally get sick!

  127. Democratnomore says:

    NPR All Things Considered
    https://www.npr.org/2020/07/28/896334963/pandemic-pods-raise-concerns-about-equity.
    ‘Pandemic Pods’ Raise Concerns About Equity
    “KAMENETZ: Melinda Anderson is a journalist covering education and equity. Opportunity hoarding is a sociological concept that basically means a group in power is grabbing up resources and excluding a less powerful group. Anderson says…

    ANDERSON: Parents forming pandemic pods and micro-schools did not create school inequalities. But they’re certainly exacerbating inequalities by seeking out options unavailable to everyone.”

  128. Crushednjmillenial says:

    Tropical storm Isaais passed through the State of NJ more quickly than expected. Despite that, 35% of the State’s electricity accounts were reported to be in blackout at its peak.

    I don’t understand how a rich state like NJ tolerates this kind of service. It seems like we should be burying underground more electric equipment and we should be clearing more tree limbs as part of routine maintenance. Especially with the increasing WFH trend, the NJ economy is leaving a lot of money on the table today from power and internet outages.

    Same with flooding. I don’t understand how we have areas that just flood storm-after-storm, year-after-year. If I heard there were frequent power outages and flooding in Switzerland, I would be shocked. The NJ economy is only 25% smaller than the Swiss one. I suppose the answer is graft and government incompetence, but it would seem like there could be a lot of graft and govt incompetence and we’d still have more reliable electric service.

  129. Phoenix says:

    “Any time a kid gets a deficient teacher in say a subject like Algebra 1, we see it ripple through the next 4 years.”
    Well, whose fault is that? Blame that on the unions and the mommies.

    It’s the lawsuit riddled American mental defect process that allows this to grow. The fear of being sued, dragged into a courtroom for every little thing. Yet Americans embrace this pathology with fervor.

    America is becoming one big steaming pile of steatorrhea.

  130. Phoenix says:

    BRT

    First of all, the union members are PICKETING to stay home. Obviously they don’t want to go back as they are “afraid” and are “victims” while the rest of us work.
    So teachers and their unions are a part of the problem.

    The mommies. Yes, those wonderful Karens that dictate everything to the world. They fight like angry badgers on Facebook and Instagram attacking each other and forming opposing groups. Can’t wait to tell you about their degrees and how they are going to sue you. It’s amazing the amount of resources used by a school just trying to keep the average mommy from suing someone. Kid does not get the teacher/grade they want, or the 504 plan they want, it’s right to Cellino and Barnes-then taxpayers pay.

    All of this while dad is trying to work to keep his job and make enough money to keep his wife happy in the way she is accustomed to living or he ends up in court.

  131. Phoenix says:

    “I don’t understand how a rich state like NJ tolerates this kind of service. It seems like we should be burying underground more electric equipment”

    Costs a small fortune. Why do you think Verizon is not laying fiber everywhere either?

    NJ can’t even pay it’s debt to the retirees yet people want to spend more?

    I don’t see that happening.

  132. leftwing says:

    “I swear, stupid is spreading in this country on a national scale. You are honestly going to shame parents for making a major investment in their child’s future.”

    I think the many informed teachers on this board have made clear that the educational establishment decisions are not, in fact, driven by the actual education of your children.

    Yes, there is the ‘racist’ angle to these pods because people of different demographics have differing financial resources. But that is not new….gap years, unpaid summer internships, cultural travel, etc have all existed with the same disparities in opportunity deriving from income for a long time now.

    So why are pods being seen differently by the Left?

    Because they lose control to inculcate your children with their political philosophy.

    I was involved with forming a pod in our town…introduced one of the two teachers who will be involved….The first discussion, driven by this teacher, was how diverse the group would be (for lack of a better term) politically.

    It was agreed, basically unanimously, to keep it homogenous. Any diversity was viewed, particularly in this current environment and with the election coming up, as a major distraction. Plus, in the discussions with the families, it became clear that not just the parents but the kids were exhausted by the social activism of the school with its overriding agenda on LGBTQXYZ and every ‘-ism’ one could think of (and a few you never knew of).

    So there are eight kids (families), a couple are friends, all are known but may be more on the social periphery, who share similar life views. They will be educated on academic topics for the benefit of academics without a social engineering agenda.

    The absence to socially engineer your child, and your ability to choose to not have it occur, is why ‘pods’ scare the sh1t out of the (liberal) educational establishment.

    Has zero to do with ‘racism’. As with much else occurring recently ‘racism’ is simply being used as the trump (no pun intended) card that the Left plays feeling safe that such claim is a position that cannot be challenged in the current environment and will allow them to attain their otherwise unrelated goal.

    Bare knuckle politics. Zero to do with academics or ‘racism’.

  133. Phoenix says:

    “Yes, there is the ‘racist’ angle to these pods ”

    “Has zero to do with ‘racism’

    Not sure what you mean.
    Bottom line is “pods” are not necessary if those who get paid to do their jobs do it already instead of picketing like the rest of us. Plus we need to get this parasitic lawsuit system off of our backs in order to move forward.

  134. 30 year realtor says:

    So many of you are up in arms about these articles on educational pods. Why? There is nothing there. Where is the judgement saying anyone is racist or should be ashamed? All these articles do is inform the public that this phenomena is occurring as a result of the pandemic and only those with the financial means can afford to do this.

  135. GenXrHere BuriedBoomersAlready says:

    Poor Crushed Millenial,

    Are you being enlightened now. Is the morally and intellectually bankrupt locust boomers fault. Their thing is the Fed Reserve inflating paper and housing assets, and make sure there is plenty of p3ck3r pills, p0t, c0k3, red hats and adult diapers.

    Millenial, the Wuhan cooties is the best thing that could ever happened to take out these fckrs.

    The only progress you are seeing in this country right now is from Elon Musk for SpaceX, Starlink, Tesla Motors & Solar, plus from Amazon with its evil world domination plan. Both using the Federal Reserve pump to do the best they can.

    Nothing, there is nothing right now that you can point to regarding doing good for the future that is from a freaking boomer.

    Yes, there is a lot of tech, engineering, and ideas out there to make the NJ, the USA and world better. But you got to wait out these evil lizards until either the Wuhan gets them, they od on their meds, or get waked by their kids who can’t stand them.

  136. Democratnomore says:

    Yes, my kids are exhausted with it. The focus on the internal, on “what I am” can’t be great for the mental health.

    “Plus, in the discussions with the families, it became clear that not just the parents but the kids were exhausted by the social activism of the school with its overriding agenda on LGBTQXYZ and every ‘-ism’ one could think of (and a few you never knew of).”

  137. Nomad says:

    Crushed,

    When this company started, part of their vision was a smaller unit for residential use. NG lines already underground to each home. Install a Bloom Box and for the most part, uninterrupted electrical supply.

    https://www.bloomenergy.com

    More detail on state by state unemployment benefits.

    https://usafacts.org/articles/unemployment-benefits-by-state-and-county/

  138. leftwing says:

    “Not sure what you mean.”

    Pods are being attacked as racist by the Left.

    The real agenda is not concern over racism, but levering that position to maintain control.

    “Bottom line is “pods” are not necessary if those who get paid to do their jobs do it already instead of picketing like the rest of us.”

    Don’t mistake my sarcasm as an attack because you are a valuable contributor to this board….but, it is downright quaint that you believe the educational establishment has your individual child’s best academic interest in mind.

  139. Juice Box says:

    Grim – I mentioned previously when the State Stasi for NJ finds out they will hit the homeowners with some kind of unlicensed child care summons, you cannot even teach piano from your home legally unless it is a sperate zoned, inspected, permitted and licenced space.

  140. Phoenix says:

    Lw,
    Gotcha. Thanks for the comp, you too BTW.
    Not for one minute do I believe they have my child’s interest in mind-Most are like pumpy-out for themselves-the system as a whole. There are a lot of pigs eating at that trough and have for a long time. The debt is astronomical and increasing in the public sector.

    Sure the left will play that card. It’s all a game based on a slippery slope. You let any of the demographics shift too far in any way and you can reach a point of no return.
    Social media amplifies this-and increases it’s velocity.

    Hang on, we are in for a bumpy ride. At least that is the way I see it.

  141. Juice Box says:

    Phoenix – Do you think our “guest workers” don’t take advantage of our higher education system? Does anyone actually do that kind of hard for for that cheap anymore a $100 really?

    Illegal aliens or “undocumented aliens” get free tuition assistance in NJ, but hey I did not mention anything other than male and college age? No. You need to check yourself, but if two people offered to do the job for $100 I would have sat them down and explained to them that nobody works that cheap anymore regardless of their heritage.

  142. Phoenix says:

    Juice,
    Karen Sr. will make the call when Karen Jr is not allowed in the sandbox.

  143. Phoenix says:

    Juice,
    Let’s examine that. Personally I love that kind of work for some sadistic reason as it keeps me in shape plus I love the smell of 2 stroke.

    Besides that I have no way of knowing how much your job was worth-you insulted the two guys who stopped-said you were more of a man then both of them together and could do it faster than they both could. Ok, so maybe you are a JJ or these 2 for some reason looked weak to you. Why insult them this way?

    Or was it the money? 100 you would have had a conversation with them, but 400 you assaulted their masculinity?

    From your post I could not tell if it was about your manhood vs theirs, or the price of the job.
    All I know is most rarely question how hard many immigrants work.

  144. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    First of all, the union members are PICKETING to stay home. Obviously they don’t want to go back as they are “afraid” and are “victims” while the rest of us work.
    So teachers and their unions are a part of the problem.

    I have about 75 teachers on FB feed. There are 8 people posting nonstop about how they don’t want to go back to school. The two most vocal have been hardcore lefties and I can guarantee you that they don’t want to go back to work. They enjoyed half-a**sing from home. 2 are guidance counselors that I never had much respect for in general. The people I spoke to in person in graduate overwhelmingly want to go back to work. In fact, a lot of us were very adamant about it simply from the perspective that we don’t want the general public to start a “defund the teachers movement”. My opinion, these people are the vocal minority and people teachers feel comfortable publicly coming out in favor of opening for fear of being ostracized.

    The one thing I have comfort in is that at the district that I teach at is that 80% of parents are opting for in person instruction. So, they aren’t going to be intimidated by a small minority trying to control everyone else. In my town, the split is different. It’s about 60% in favor now. Given our local’s supintendents catering to the woke crowd over the past 2 years, I fear that he may cave to a vocal minority.

  145. Juice Box says:

    This guy should be tarred, feathered and cancelled, a microschool that only accepts students on Merit?

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/04/silicon-valley-investor-defends-covid-19-microschool-idea-following-backlash/

  146. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Yes, my kids are exhausted with it. The focus on the internal, on “what I am” can’t be great for the mental health.

    When I was in high school in 1994-1998, I remember taking final exams on grammar rules that we had never learned. Grammar was almost universally eliminated from the curriculum in favor of nonstop novels. We even had to read Shakespear in American Literature? WTF? They hadn’t changed the finals yet so it was a little perplexing to me at the time.

    All of this non-academic nonsense has it’s consequences. Your kids are being robbed of learning basic skills. The great teachers ignore all these directives. The problem is, young incoming teachers will do whatever they are told or they get fired. I was required to put forth a plan to help my students “emotional learning” this past year. I teach Physics.

  147. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    This guy should be tarred, feathered and cancelled, a microschool that only accepts students on Merit?

    I didn’t read it but as far as these small groups go, the students should all be within a similar ability with respect to each other. The difference between the top 15% and the bottom 60% is astronomical in terms of what they are capable of and this applies ages as young as 1st and 2nd grade. Incorporating kids that aren’t at the same ability will hold back the rest.

  148. leftwing says:

    JB re: licensure

    Spot on.

    Info I have regarding the situation I referenced is second hand as I stepped back after intro-ing the teacher to a friend. Both are among my better friends so I do get updated….One of the families invited has a dad who is a counsel and while he would obviously not provide legal advice I suspect that was not a coincidence…

    Anyway, apparently discussion currently is whether to just go full blown ‘school at home’ with no attendance at the District online or otherwise. Each family applies as required individually. The kids are then home schooled as a group by the two teachers.

    Correct on the space, no way the teacher would (or could) do it. Some discussion of outside space but then they run into the issues you reference regarding licensure, etc.

    Sounds like they are moving towards what basically sounds like a collective (ironically enough lol). Two families, maybe a third, will step up to have the kids over as they have the space at home. Everyone will have an equal ‘interest’ and there will be cross indemnifications and liability waivers for the hosting families in case some kid takes a header down the stairs, etc. Everything on the books payment to teachers above board and 1099ed.

    Legally and from the outside, it’s just a few friends getting together at someone’s house. Equivalent of a playdate with a babysitter. Or a group tutoring session.

    I know one of the hosting families well…would be outstanding to see whatever arrangement they form challenged by the BoE Stasi….the fireworks would be spectacular and I have no doubt who would come away worse for the wear.

  149. Juice Box says:

    Historically most learning happened at home. Parents taught their children or if rich enough tutors were hired to do the job. In NY and NJ it has been about a 100 year experiment with tax payer funded public schools, they simply did not exist before that time of when your great grandparents were school age.

    Now we find out the taxpayer funded public school system is going to fail us, it cannot adapt do to it’s bureaucracy so as parents we are looking back to tutoring and private schools and we are going to get raked over the social media coals for it.

    I have been saying it may be time to pull up stakes in expensive NJ, and I am not the only one.

  150. ExEssex says:

    Schools are based on compliance. But the teachers aren’t playing ball.
    Imumnocompromised overweight couch potato Karens tend to be teachers.
    While administrators are all former Karens. Good teachers are far easier to find than decent administrators.

  151. Juice Box says:

    Phoenix – Such a snowflake and drama queen you can be, there was no physical attack. They insulted me with a jacked up price and I insulted their work ethic. Which one is worse? I did see them down the street “working” and probably raking a little older couple over the coals for their cleanup project do to the storm. I am cheap Irish, and I can do math pretty well too. It would have taken them at most 3 hours with perhaps breaks for Breakfast,Second Breakfast, Elevenses, and Lunch…..for the soy boys…… $200 OK, but $400? I am not asking anyone to climb a tree here….

    BTW – I have had plenty of tree crews come by and try and scam for work as well as landscapers who give outrageous quotes to put down mulch. I do most of it myself unless I have to get up high on a limb…I fell twice in my landscaping career doing that so I know better…

  152. ExEssex says:

    I’m “going back” full time after roughly 3 years of simply not giving a shit.
    Tried two charters out in CA and you wanna talk insanity. High teacher turnover,
    Almost zero behavior accountability from the students and – in the two previous schools bottom of the barrel scholars. It’s ugly.

    NJ has a sizable middle class and NYC tends to draw type-A parents who don’t put up with dummies in the family. In CA you are literally rich or poor. Very little middle class. Economic standing is really the new race in many ways.

  153. ExEssex says:

    12:59 it’s magic when you get a class of intelligent motivated kids.
    Knowing I’ve or two idiots can ruin it means public schools are ripe for ruining.

  154. ExEssex says:

    I’ve = one … spellcheck annoys

  155. ExEssex says:

    Charters literally out here compete for kids.
    “school choice” and they cater to them like
    you wouldn’t believe – marry that to social justice
    like this 2019 gem….. Gov. Gavin Newsom signed legislation late Monday ending suspensions in all public and charter schools for “willful defiance” in grades 4 through 5 and banning them in grades 6 to 8 for five years. … Students could still be suspended for more serious actions, such as physical violence, theft or use of drugs.

  156. JCer says:

    Juice, if you live in a nice neighborhood and have a nice house people going to try to soak you. Every time it snows I see immigrants from offering to shovel in my hood. It’s a joke most times they want $200 or $300, I’ll pay $100. I can shovel the darn thing myself in a few hours(physical labor is worth around $25-$30 an hour, so at 2 man hours I’m at $50 an hour more than fair), or I could call my landscaper who would do it for $150. I too am incredibly cheap, the number of estimates from contractors that were totally out of line is nuts on a 5k job I’ll get estimates as high as 15 or 20k and as low as 5k. If it only happened once I’d write it off as a one off but it happens all the time, lots of people try to charge unfair prices because they think you have the money. Don’t even get me started on HVAC/boiler guys I only call these people if I absolutely need them, the rates these guys are getting are up there with lawyers if looking at billable hours, I’ll replace every cheap part before calling them in.

  157. The Great Pumpkin says:

    So on point. That post overall, knocked it out of the park. Nice job!

    “In CA you are literally rich or poor. Very little middle class. Economic standing is really the new race in many ways.”

  158. Juice Box says:

    Ugh…now the school system just used their robocall system to send me an alert about portable generators and how they need to be 10 feet from any structure and only hooked up to UL cords. One call to the home #, one to my cell, and one to my wife’s cell. I need to opt out of this nonsense.

  159. Phoenix says:

    You should have called them “soy boys” to their faces.

    Now that I would have respected you for.

  160. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Juice, if you live in a nice neighborhood and have a nice house people going to try to soak you. Every time it snows I see immigrants from offering to shovel in my hood. It’s a joke most times they want $200 or $300, I’ll pay $100. I can shovel the darn thing myself in a few hours(physical labor is worth around $25-$30 an hour, so at 2 man hours I’m at $50 an hour more than fair), or I could call my landscaper who would do it for $150. I too am incredibly cheap, the number of estimates from contractors that were totally out of line is nuts on a 5k job I’ll get estimates as high as 15 or 20k and as low as 5k. If it only happened once I’d write it off as a one off but it happens all the time, lots of people try to charge unfair prices because they think you have the money. Don’t even get me started on HVAC/boiler guys I only call these people if I absolutely need them, the rates these guys are getting are up there with lawyers if looking at billable hours, I’ll replace every cheap part before calling them in.

    A lot of these guys are trolling for suckers in wealthy neighborhoods. They are likely already booked and figure, they’ll toss out an obscene figure because they don’t need the work, but if you say yes to the absurd price, of course he’ll do it.

    When I had an estimate on fishing the attic (drywall, insulation, electric), one idiot quoted me $25k. I ended up getting it done for $8k. When the pipe in my front yard burst last year, the plumber brought this contractor with him. I clearly established, I would pay $7k and had it in writing. At the end, the contract tried tacking an extra $2k on the bill after the fact. I told him to f*** off and try to take me to court as I had no contract with him, just the plumber. Never heard from him again. These guys are used to just squeezing money out people with little effort.

  161. Phoenix says:

    Jcer,

    When they come to you with a ridiculous price do you just low ball them back or call them soy boys?

  162. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Don’t even get me started on HVAC/boiler guys I only call these people if I absolutely need them, the rates these guys are getting are up there with lawyers if looking at billable hours, I’ll replace every cheap part before calling them in.

    Oh, and for finishing the attic, I needed to run duct work up there. All the guys were quoting me $8k or $9k. Then, one place, comes in and says, he can do it for $1.5k. I’m like “f*cking sold!”. He goes, I can get you a brand new heater with it for $7k total. This guy came in with not just the duct work but a brand new heater less than the rest of the jerk offs.

  163. ExEssex says:

    I eat a lot of soy, it’s making my moobs huge.

  164. Phoenix says:

    BRT,
    Nothing wrong with asking for a high price to do something. I have worked for contractors that came in with low prices, only to get themselves buried in with complications on things.

    Yeah, just replace the starter. Rusted bolt, 3 hrs later drilling and tapping after having to remove fender skirt, etc.
    Sometimes you are right, it’s a ripoff, or just a high price.
    But nothing wrong with doing it yourself.

  165. Phoenix says:

    Ex,
    Feed some to your other half. Share the wealth.

  166. ExEssex says:

    1:50 had i stayed in my NJ home I would have eventually gotten around to finishing an awesome walk-up attic in the old manse. very very nice space. High above it all if you catch my meaning.

  167. ExEssex says:

    1:54 hahaha shes never had a problem there. Literally stacked.
    Lately shes been slimming down a bit, but my G-d for 50 something….I cannot and would not complain.

  168. leftwing says:

    “When I was in high school in 1994-1998, I remember taking final exams on grammar rules that we had never learned. Grammar was almost universally eliminated from the curriculum in favor of nonstop novels.”

    I did not realize until I hit college I had such poor (bad?) grammar…actually, I should have, my English SAT score was 200+ less than my math…..

    University knew it…freshman ‘writing’ course was mandated for everyone….was basically remedial, and that was 30+ years ago, can only imagine today.

    My introduction to Strunk + White’s Elements of Style….still have the little book….

  169. Juice Box says:

    Neighbor told me a story this week son is now headed back to the University of Maryland at the end of the month, it seems the school is not offering much remote learning and won’t let the students out of their apt leases to cut expenses learn from home.

  170. leftwing says:

    “Never heard from him again. These guys are used to just squeezing money out people with little effort.”

    Oh, do I have a few stories….personal favorite….interviewing architects for new construction, about three. Unique lot, unique home. Two did quick outside elevations to pitch the job, one didn’t. Signed with one of the first two guys. Three weeks later got a bill for $2500 from the third who didn’t provide any rendering, with whom we met only twice, and with whom we had no contract. Give him a polite call, he turns boorish and insistent. I’m still being nice and ask him, since he literally provided nothing and had no agreement written or otherwise for compensation for a pitch, how he justifies the ask and – swear to God – he tells me he spent endless time *thinking* about the project including at night in bed for which he should be paid. Fcuking LOL. A+ for unmitigated balls and inflated sense of self, i guess.

    “I have worked for contractors that came in with low prices, only to get themselves buried in with complications on things.”

    BIL is a contractor. His model is to price most projects at slightly above cost but with well compensated and clearly spelled out change fees. If his clients ever went soup to nuts without change he’d be hurting but the vast majority make changes and he gets fairly compensated. Not a bad strategy, ends up in the same place as if he bid it out full price but assures he always has a full book by the low bid upfront.

  171. NJCoast says:

    Anybody going to the Trump fundraiser down the road from me at the Chera oceanfront estate? We can get a NJREReport table for $250,000! $5600 if you want to just kiss his ring. The patriarch of the property died of Covid early on even though Trump had warned him to get out of the city.

  172. Juice Box says:

    COVID-19 checkpoints in New York City will do wonders for those busloads of tourists that arrive every summer from flyover country. Oh wait what tourism?

  173. Juice Box says:

    Coast that is a trick question, there is no entry into that community without a genealogical investigation. As I don’t think any of use here hail from Gravesend Brooklyn our money would be turned down.

    I wonder what kind of bailout they will be looking for? Lots of real-estate and retail in those families. Must be a rough year dropping out of the Billionaires club for some.

  174. chicagofinance says:

    I had the same experience as left and BRT. I have never learned proper grammar, and merely write in quick business style writing through career trial and error.

    Here is one of my Freshman Writing seminar TA’s….. a painfully haughty and condescending academic…. gave the entire class B’s & B-‘s……
    https://philosophy.sas.upenn.edu/people/susan-sauv%C3%A9-meyer

    leftwing says:
    August 5, 2020 at 1:58 pm
    “When I was in high school in 1994-1998, I remember taking final exams on grammar rules that we had never learned. Grammar was almost universally eliminated from the curriculum in favor of nonstop novels.”

    I did not realize until I hit college I had such poor (bad?) grammar…actually, I should have, my English SAT score was 200+ less than my math…..

    University knew it…freshman ‘writing’ course was mandated for everyone….was basically remedial, and that was 30+ years ago, can only imagine today.

  175. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    My best student ever was a girl who immigrated from China as a Junior. She took the Physics SAT the 2nd week of class and scored an 800. She basically took every AP test without taking any of the classes and scored 5s on them all by the end of junior year. Her senior year, I set her up with a research position at Rutgers because she was obviously bored in school. She became my lab assistant and I had her review all my Letters of Recommendation for typos. The amount of rules in the English language that she pointed out to me was off the charts. I couldn’t believe they didn’t teach any of this, yet a girl from China was taught it at an advanced level. I would have loved to have been learning all these rules instead of reading Hamlet and taking quote quizzes.

    I always thought it was odd that the SAT Verbal would test us on all these words we never saw in school while I had no problem scoring 800 on the SAT math section despite my D- in Freshman Geometry.

  176. ExEssex says:

    My best student? Man there were so so so many. Huge talent pool in Essex Co.,

  177. Grim says:

    I believe I pulled a 780 math, 480 verbal.

    Stupid f@cking useless words.

  178. zapaza19 says:

    I took a speed reading class in the first half of my high school senior year. My verbal SAT went up 130 points within that period. Best elective I ever took.

    No. The teacher was not named Evelyn

  179. Walking says:

    It’s funny how they figured out che kpoints into the city, but could not set up checkpoints with limited traffic out of the city during the protests/ riots. What am I missing?

  180. JCer says:

    I can best you all on the SAT front, one of my high school teachers let it slip to me that I had both the highest and the lowest SATII scores in my high school, a perfect 800 on the physics and 300 on the writing section.

    My writing is so bad that as freshman in college I was placed in a writing program for non-native English speakers. Yes my command of the English written word is that bad…..mind you I’m American born and am only fluent in English.

    Phoenix I usually let them go on their way. If you are padding your price 100% I’m not going to hire you, I can understand 20%-25% maybe the low bidder is doing a substandard job and I’ll give a contractor offering a little bit of a higher price to compete for the job by flat out telling them I got a lower bid and asking them for their bottom line. I don’t always go for the lowest bidder, sometimes there is a reason they are cheap.

  181. Juice Box says:

    In an apparent reversal from remarks he made earlier this year, #JoeBiden said he has not taken a cognitive test.

    “I am very willing to let the American public judge my physical and mental fill—my physical, as well as my mental fill—fitness,” #Biden said.

  182. Juice Box says:

    Still lots of generators humming around town. Main road closed and has two split power poles with a few of the lines down, some side streets too have wires down too. A friend who lives nearby put in their Generac after Sandy, it costs about them about $20 a day to run their 22kw natural gas generator, but with the power issues we have around here it is needed, it may be running for a few more days as there aren’t any utility crews in sight.

  183. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You know what’s really sad, if you think your grammar is horrible (as is mine), imagine if you grew up in a state like West Virginia.

    Almost died during the storm. Have my guardian angel watching over me. Best part, I got it on video. A tree fell across the street and hit the power lines. So I rushed to take a video, caught the explosion and sparks. Seconds later, a giant tree falls and barely misses my house and myself. Totally blocked my garage, couldn’t get cars out. I’m stupid lucky to be alive, but it’s one of the funniest videos ever as my reaction is priceless (screaming holy sh!t).

    What are the odds of not dying and also catching that on video? If I had been smashed into the pavement of my driveway, there would have been no way to drive to the hospital and we couldn’t get in touch with cops for an hour. Your dream come true, pumps dead.

    Still don’t have power, just have a generator going, and still no internet.

  184. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Also, people are selfish pricks. Cops took an hour to block off my road. During that span, what do some assholes do to get around the tree in the road, that’s right, drive up on my lawn. Foot and half ruts…could f’ing kill the selfish pricks. Wtf are you doing driving around in a major storm anyway, never mind driving on people’s property to get around a tree blocking the road. F’in animals.

  185. Juice Box says:

    Pumps highway livin is hell. Glad to hear you did not buy the farm. Save the rest of your nine lives for the ramparts down in Trenton when the time comes and they don’t have the money to pay your pension.

  186. Bystander says:

    Hah, hah..perhaps they were just in awe of your wonderous house and lost control. The Highway to Heaven house..maybe it was Michael Landon driving? Spooky.

    Day 3 of no power. CT is f’ed, maybe worse than Sandy.

  187. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Bystander,

    Just know that you are a piece of sh!t. You really are.

  188. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Got a quote of 1100 to remove the tree, but did it myself. My body is shot, but have a lot of firewood.

  189. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Posted the video to a group and it’s going viral. Lol

  190. No One says:

    Let’s see a link to the video, Pumpkin.
    Sorry to hear people were driving on your lawn.
    I’m glad my power came on in 26 hours. I was worried my generator might not like running till the power company’s first estimate of Monday.

  191. The Great Pumpkin says:

    No one,

    Thanks. Appreciate it. Happy to be alive. Not my time to go…still have work to do.

    Get ready to laugh your a$$ off. I uploaded it to YouTube so you can see.

    https://youtu.be/wQueHn0QXcg

  192. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I had a friend who also was a D student in school. He read all kinds of crap all the time so he knew every single word. He scored 800 on verbal, 710 on math. Highest score in the school. All the smart kids were pissed because he, didn’t even study. A month later he broke into the school and stole a box of locks. Ended up getting expelled.

  193. Thursday LookAhead says:

    This is from a post made in March regarding Universal Basic Income. Off on the candidate, but looks right on the issue – which right now the McConnell can’t control his GOPers and will pass legislation (Care 2.0) with Democratic votes.

    https://www.bankers-anonymous.com/blog/ubi-is-coming/

  194. No One says:

    BRT,
    My high school experience was similar, I got D’s and Cs in Math and science classes because I read things I was more interested in and didn’t keep up with homework. My parents paid no attention to my grades. My only SAT practice was one day of test prep and some practice that my high school gave to our whole grade. I scored 99th percentile overall, something like 98th verbal 95th math. One friend refused to talk to me again after hearing that. But with mediocre grades, little money, and uninterested parents, it didn’t help me with college.

  195. Hold my beer says:

    Pumps

    One more reason not to live on a highway.

  196. Hold my beer says:

    Pumps

    How high did you jump when that tree came down? Must have been a huge adrenaline rush.

  197. Hold my beer says:

    Why isn’t the owner of the tree responsible for the damage their tree causes when it falls onto someone else’s property? Especially if they never prune their trees. Is NJ afraid people would chop down their trees?

  198. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    My high school experience was similar, I got D’s and Cs in Math and science classes because I read things I was more interested in and didn’t keep up with homework. My parents paid no attention to my grades. My only SAT practice was one day of test prep and some practice that my high school gave to our whole grade. I scored 99th percentile overall, something like 98th verbal 95th math. One friend refused to talk to me again after hearing that. But with mediocre grades, little money, and uninterested parents, it didn’t help me with college.

    The kids that act like that are always the ones that look down on others and think they are better than the rest. Then, when some kid outperforms them with no effort, their whole world view falls apart and they can’t handle it.

    I had a similar experience. I was an awful student at the beginning of high school because I didn’t respond well to busy work and poorly thought out homework. I had a few teachers that were really useless and didn’t care if you skipped class.

    Once I got a few decent teachers, I made sure to ace their classes. Just to prove a point my senior year of high school, while the rest of the kids had senioritis, I got straight 100s in 5 classes. Two of the teachers tried to nominate me for student of the month but my previous teachers were still so disgusted with me that they shot it down during the committee meeting (I was told this years later when I ran into one of my teachers). But at graduation, they gave you medals to wear if you were the top performer in each subject. So, four of my teachers gave me awards (Physics, Calculus, Latin, and Computer Science). I got so many dirty looks because I had more medals than anyone else.

  199. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Hold,

    Adrenaline is a hell of a drug. What an experience.

    This blog is hard to please. That video is hilarious, and not one laugh. Tough crowd.

    Shouldn’t expect anything less…

  200. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Trees falling can be held liable. For example, if the tree is already dead or clearly unstable. It becomes an insurance issue for accidents. The argument is, it’s not your fault if a tree standing up standing up straight falls. I still think it should be their fault. I made sure to take down any tree on my property that was in reach of hitting my house or a neighbors fence. I had a tree that apparently fell during Sandy (I didn’t own at the time) and the previous owner staked it back up. It was at an angle 5 degrees off center. We had a bad windstorm and I checked two days later, 8 degrees off center. Clearly the thing was on a slow motion trajectory towards disaster. So I took it down. I also pruned a tree in the backyard. Lots of big thick branches at a horizontal angle. Just a snap waiting to happen.

    Neighbor behind me got pissed when I pruned his pine trees that had branches hanging 10 feet over my fence. I guess he expected me to duck while I mowed my lawn. He just sold 2 weeks ago. On his way out, he broke the oven and had the water shut off at the street. Real piece of work.

  201. Phoenix says:

    NJ Karen of the day. Poor soul caught on ByteDance software.

    https://bit.ly/2PudPqH

  202. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    So my grandmothers home in Bergenfield has been in foreclosure since 2008. My Uncle literally destroyed the property by going around and collecting garbage and stacking it up in the backyard to try to dissuade them from kicking him out. He’s lived there for over 10 years without paying a dime. The inside looked like an episode of hoarders. After the sheriffs evicted him last year, he broke back in and squatted. Apparently, someone bought the home for $400k at the end of April and completely refurbished the entire home in and out. It looks great. It just got put back on the market for $675k. I don’t see it selling for that much but we’ll see. I think the paid way too much for it to begin with.

  203. Phoenix says:

    “Excessive borrowing is always bad, but particularly dangerous for New Jersey given its chronic fiscal straits. The state is already the most indebted in the nation per-capita. And estimates of interest costs on the newly accrued debt could add tens of billions of dollars in debt and interest payments over the next several decades – obligations that would fall squarely on the shoulders of our children and grandchildren.”

    Pay more for the house and accept all of this debt to go with it. There will be a day of reckoning. Have patience.

  204. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Phoenix, if you talk to a local business owner, they get one of these types every few hours. They are absolutely off their rockers. I talk to the people at the Habit Grill almost every day when I stop by and get a soft drink. They have a new story for me every time. They’ve been dealing with this nonstop.

    Last week, at Belmar Windmill, there was this guy sticking his head around the grill to talk to the people. They told him that he can’t do that. He was like “how else can you hear me?”. I dunno, maybe talk louder? After they finally got his order to him, they were out of cupholders. He had two drinks and a bag. He started flipping out about the fact that they were out and how was he supposed to carry them out? Finally, after 2 minutes, he figured it out. I joked with the people behind the counter “he just discovered he had a second hand”. I gave them a $5 tip and said they don’t get paid enough for this crap.

  205. Grim says:

    NRA is done.

  206. 3b says:

    BRT: if the house is on the Teaneck border with the Orthodox Jewish community he may get that price, otherwise I agree, don’t think he will get it.

  207. leftwing says:

    “This is from a post made in March regarding Universal Basic Income.”

    Funny, was thinking similar when the first $600 checks came out pushing UI well above median salaraies….isn’t this just UBI in a different coat?

    “NRA is done.”

    NY AG and DC AG better tread carefully….closure of NRA by these urban, ethnic, political ass clowns would really play well in certain parts……I would in a nanosecond trade the NRA for getting OH, western PA, MI, WI, AZ, and FL retribution votes against the Dem Party in Nov…..wouldn’t surprise me to see this fade from the headlines as I have to think the DNC is SMH

  208. leftwing says:

    “Apparently, someone bought the home for $400k at the end of April…”

    LOL, 30yr?

  209. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    3b, one block in from New Bridge road. 2 Jewish neighbors.

  210. Thursday LookAhead says:

    Leftwing,

    Normally, I would say yes, as we have come to a point in space and time where all you need to defend treasonable, crooked behavior is say that is a political thing.

    However, remember who brought it out into the public and got kicked out of the NRA because he saw the crooked behavior – Ollie North. So I think that NRA leadership is cooked and will be eventually serving time for federal and definitely state tax evasion.

    About the UBI. That is the point. Everyone is going out of their way not to call it something else based on the kabuki dance of politics. But at then end, it will happen, like Medicare For All with the virus’ financial damage to healthcare. But it won’t be called UBI or M4A, but the same in everything except name.

  211. 3b says:

    BRT: I know the area, he may get it, I believe walking distance to Teaneck Synagogue.

  212. 30 year realtor says:

    The Bergenfield house was taken back by plaintiff at sheriff sale and sold for $399,000. Location is good but west of Prospect is substantially more desirable. Only 1948 GLA. Style is a tri split which is probably the least desirable style home. Equalized value is $410,000. Only 14 DOM so far…my guess is this sells in the $570-$590,000 range. Renovation likely in the 130-$150,000 range. Quality of renovation is not top notch.

    I did bid on one that someone posted a link to a few weeks ago in Montclair on Stephens. House was completely rebuilt and sold for well over $1,000,000. I was outbid by a large amount. Wouldn’t have touched the Bergenfield property with a 10 foot pole.

  213. 3b says:

    30 yr what is a tri split?

  214. 30 year realtor says:

    A tri split is a split level with an addition on top of the LD, DR, kitchen level.

  215. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    haha, that’s the one. I want to go look at it just to compliment the guy on the work he did. The place was a blight on the neighborhood for 20 years.

  216. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Bergenfield is loaded with trisplits. Nearly all my friends all over town had the same exact house setup.

  217. 3b says:

    30 Got it. I have seen those. I agree not a good setup.

  218. Democratnomore says:

    “Malwarebytes Privacy — a secure and fast VPN to protect your privacy online.”

    Does anyone use a VPN like Malwarebytes or similar who works from home and which one? What is your experience? Does it affect wifi speed significantly? etc.

    Thanks in advance for any advice

  219. JCer says:

    On tree’s, if there is no reasonable way for you to know that a tree is a hazard you are not responsible. If your neighbor says hey that tree of yours next to my house is dead, split, infested with termites…..you are now aware that it is an imminent risk and it is your responsibility remove it. If you were to not address it, you would likely be liable for your negligence. If someone points it out call an arborist and they will give an opinion, that way you are covered. I’ve now had to take down 2 relatively big trees on my property because they were ~10ft away from my neighbors house and dying one one on each side, it doesn’t help that my lot literally extends to within 5ft of their homes. My neighbors at least split the cost with me.

    In the storm trees that appeared healthy were sheering limbs and some even falling. Thankfully with the number of trees we have already removed(35) we only lost one small dead tree and not the ones adjacent to the power lines PSEG was supposed to remove 2 years ago!

  220. JCer says:

    Democratnomore, in general I do not trust the VPN providers. If you want to watch streaming video only available overseas, download torrents or do something else shady they are good. When you work from home you usually are going through your companies VPN or Citrix so there isn’t too much you can do. If it is browsing you are concerned with use TOR, it’s free, only the NSA will know what you are looking at. Now a days with browser fingerprinting amazon and google can probably identify you even if your IP is coming from bratislava. And yes all VPN’s impact network performance, you are at the mercy of their bandwidth……..

  221. Joe Black says:

    The number of “new cases” is a useless metric. Only the following numbers are useful:

    1) Mortality rate

    2) Hospitalization rate

    The mortality rate in New Jersey has dwindled to almost zero deaths per day, down from a peak of ~175 deaths per day. We shut the whole country down for no reason.

  222. joyce says:

    Are we talking bi-level vs split-level? Or a split-level where they usually do a master suite addition on top of LR/DR which used to be a small attic?

    30 year realtor says:
    August 6, 2020 at 3:05 pm
    A tri split is a split level with an addition on top of the LD, DR, kitchen level.

  223. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The number of “new cases” is a useless metric. Only the following numbers are useful:

    1) Mortality rate

    2) Hospitalization rate

    The mortality rate in New Jersey has dwindled to almost zero deaths per day, down from a peak of ~175 deaths per day. We shut the whole country down for no reason.

    Not completely useless but definitely flawed. What I would definitely point to is that the # of new cases is currently dropping in the problem states without draconian shutdowns, and that’s with indoor dining.

    Forgot to post this the other day. We were in PA, King of Prussia last week. Ended up biting the bullet and doing indoor dining. Nearest family was 25 ft from us. It wasn’t a big deal at all. The place would spray down the table and put a 10 minute sand timer on it.

  224. Phoenix says:

    Windscribe is nice as it has a good ad blocker that is effective so I use that VPN. At home I use a PiHole as well.

  225. 30 year realtor says:

    Joyce,

    Typically they run the stairway up where the linen closet is. Yes, over the living room and DR.

  226. BRTis Gullible says:

    BRT,

    As someone from NJ, you should know better. Those trending lower numbers are from Red States where they are “massaging” the numbers. Both TX & FL have the numbers they report come from “black box/opaque” way of doing things.

    Remember a few weeks ago, how the federal reporting was change from the CDC to newly created office in HHS, operated by a contracted company. You are actually thought they were going to reports numbers that were NOT trending down? The Pumpkin has a highway house to sell to you.

  227. The Great Pumpkin says:

    After getting $4 million in PPP loans, a 29-year-old guy in Florida went to buy a $318,497 Lamborghini Huracan Evo. He also spent thousands of dollars on dating websites, jewelry, and clothes along with stays at high-end hotels such as the Fontainebleau and Setai on Miami Beach.

    Clearly, this fella is not a Stealth Wealth practitioner! If you’re going to swindle the government and the taxpayers out of millions, you should probably lay low for at least a year. Maybe buy a nicely equipped $30,000 Honda Accord instead.

    This story is a real reminder for all of us to stay humble. Once the pandemic is over, the wealth gap is going to widen further. If the government doesn’t continue to support those hurting the most, there may very well be a revolution.

  228. grim says:

    Saw a real wealthy baller in BC that just kept adding levels to his split level. I think it was 5. Was in one of those towns that thinks they are fancy, but really aren’t. I don’t even think there was a garage, that was a living area too. Does that make it 6? It had a basement – 7? I never walked so many half staircases.

  229. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wow, you guys really don’t have fun. Not one of you commented on how funny that video was. I was running on pure adrenaline. Second scream, you can see on the camera that I’m jumping away from the tree.

    If you can’t laugh at my video, you are taking life way too seriously.

  230. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And I still don’t have power…just feeding the gas hog for electric. Looks like going to be another night as a poor dude with no central air.

  231. The Great Pumpkin says:

    PSEG worker has been parked in front of my house since 12:00 to make sure no one goes by power lines. They don’t want a lawsuit because some dude died today or yesterday.

  232. 3b says:

    Grim: Sounds like my town, think they are fancy, but really not.

  233. Juice Box says:

    Pumps you survived being electrocuted and a crushing blow to the noggin from God.

    I would tell you to man up but well, we have seen your scream like a girl on youtube. You can survive 78 degrees and dropping now. It it feels too warm just get a frozen piece of chicken ( wrapped in plastic for sure) and stick it up your rectum. It will be like you are in Upper Siberia. Thanks me later too on youtube!

  234. Juice Box says:

    3B – it’s really comical nonsense from River Edge and Oradell rivalry. Even to this day what is left of the old Irish ladies talk about it likes it’s 1977 and all the rage as white flight escapes a walk up in the Bronx.

  235. Juice Box says:

    “new cases” “hospitalizations” “deaths” are now just politics folks as it’s 89 days and all, there is no logic or science to be found. You can bet those that are dying will get a visit if they can still vote and sign the form.

  236. Fabius Maximus says:

    “just kept adding levels to his split level.”

    Recreating the Hoboken Walk-up?

  237. Vornado says:

    We don’t have fun here. Go elsewhere for fun, please.

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    August 6, 2020 at 7:23 pm
    Wow, you guys really don’t have fun

  238. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    BRT,

    As someone from NJ, you should know better. Those trending lower numbers are from Red States where they are “massaging” the numbers. Both TX & FL have the numbers they report come from “black box/opaque” way of doing things.

    Remember a few weeks ago, how the federal reporting was change from the CDC to newly created office in HHS, operated by a contracted company. You are actually thought they were going to reports numbers that were NOT trending down? The Pumpkin has a highway house to sell to you.

    Yes, Red States like California. Post under your own name if you wanna hurl insults. Covid transmission is a function of human behavior, which has shifted in those states the past month.

  239. 3b says:

    Juice: In my 30 years here, it’s more River Edge than Oradell that thinks it’s better than Oradell, but Oradell likes to point out they have very little rental apartments vs River Edge, so much for the White Liberals. And both towns turn their noses up at New Milford, who in turn think they are better than Bergenfield and Dumont. The portion of New Milford that borders Oradell thinks it’s better than the rest of New Milford. Washington Township of course thinks they are better than Westwood even though they share a school system. It was all very amusing for a Bronx boy. I have to say it’s changing now as these towns have become very diverse, and these rivalries don’t appear to be handed down to the new comers.

  240. 3b says:

    grim please unmod don’t know what triggered that.

  241. Phoenix says:

    Yeah, okay. A victim. A victim because she is a judge, a woman, or a female judge…

    https://www.nj.com/news/2020/08/njs-top-court-suspends-former-judge-accused-of-helping-her-fugitive-ex-boyfriend.html

    Charges dropped, 3 month suspension.

    The opinion was backed by four of seven justices, one of whom thought she should have been fired outright.

    Two didn’t believe any punishment was necessary.
    “I view Judge Brady as a victim, more deserving of an apology than a suspension.”

  242. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Damn, you guys really are addicted to gloom.

    Vornado says:
    August 6, 2020 at 9:06 pm
    We don’t have fun here. Go elsewhere for fun, please

  243. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wow, why didn’t they release this video and stop all this mess from happening. Dude was yelling can’t breathe in the back of the car and asking that he be put on the ground. This is beyond messed up that they didn’t release this. Those officers are not going to be charged with anything, and might be able to sue for ruining their life. How this turned into a racist cop killing is so f’ed up, it’s not even believable. People responsible for this should go to jail…how do they live with themselves, knowing they destroyed our country.

    https://www.lawofficer.com/we-told-you-so-the-george-floyd-incident/

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