C19 Open Discussion Week 40c

From the NYT:

The Food and Drug Administration authorized Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine for emergency use on Friday, clearing the way for millions of highly vulnerable people to begin receiving the vaccine within days.

The authorization is a historic turning point in a pandemic that has taken more than 290,000 lives in the United States. With the decision, the United States becomes the sixth country — in addition to Britain, Bahrain, Canada, Saudi Arabia and Mexico — to clear the vaccine. Other authorizations, including by the European Union, are expected within weeks.

Pfizer has a deal with the U.S. government to supply 100 million doses of the vaccine by next March. Under that agreement, the shots will be free to the public.

Every state, along with six major cities, has submitted to the federal government a list of locations — mostly hospitals — where the Pfizer vaccine is to ship initially. In populous Florida, the first recipients will be five hospitals, in Jacksonville, Miami, Orlando, Tampa and Hollywood. In tiny, rural Vermont, only the University of Vermont Medical Center and a state warehouse will get supplies.

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36 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 40c

  1. grim says:

    The new normal is going to be so much better than the old normal.

  2. ExEssex says:

    Buh bye crazy orange man.

  3. Fast Eddie says:

    This is an astonishing accomplishment; from an unknown plague causing global havoc to the collaboration between private and public entities to create a vaccine in under a year. Unprecedented! This is the crown jewel of this administration, one that has proven time and time again that Washington can get things done without political sloth.

  4. ExEssex says:

    Only the Administration had zero, nothing, nada to do with the vaccine.
    Just another feeble attempt to take credit for someone else’s work.

  5. ExEssex says:

    This was created by BioNTech, German company, and developed together with Pfizer. German and EU financing together with Pfizer contribution. Pfizer declined Warp Speed contribution. Only involvement by Trump to development of this vaccine was when he wanted to buy exclusive rights for the US few months ago.

  6. Very Stable Genius says:

    ‘An Indelible Stain’: How the G.O.P. Tried to Topple a Pillar of Democracy

    The Supreme Court repudiation of President Trump was also a blunt rebuke to Republican leaders who had put their interests ahead of the country’s.

    By Jim Rutenberg and Nick Corasaniti
    Dec. 12, 2020
    Updated 7:43 a.m. ET

    The Supreme Court repudiation of President Trump’s desperate bid for a second term not only shredded his effort to overturn the will of voters: It also was a blunt rebuke to Republican leaders in Congress and the states who were willing to damage American democracy by embracing a partisan power grab over a free and fair election.

  7. grim says:

    Government deserves zero credit for the vaccine. Corporations do.

  8. Juice Box says:

    In my mind, the heros in this story are the scientists, from the Chinese scientists who first openly published the DNA encoding of Covid-19 to warn the world, to the scientists who developed the nanoparticle delivery systems.

    Here is what is actually in it.

    https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/12/09/1013538/what-are-the-ingredients-of-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine/

  9. joyce says:

    The county sampled 14 trays of ballots and found accuracy rates between 97.8% and 99.8%, but a count of a tray of ballots from a Glassboro district returned an accuracy rate of only 80.8%.

    Deputy Attorney General Dominic Giova, who represented the county board of elections and the superintendent of elections, insisted the Glassboro error was an outlier and disputed the suggestion that this error could mean a wider ballot counting error.

    “The board’s position is that this was the proverbial needle in a haystack,” Giova said. “With the certifications that were submitted by the petitioner’s counsel, there’s still not at legitimate or specific reason that’s given that would support their petition for a recount.”

    https://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/2020/12/recount-ordered-in-2-nj-towns-after-ballots-jammed-in-counting-machine-some-votes-not-counted.html

  10. Juice Box says:

    Here is NJ’s plan to rollout the vaccine. It’s mostly garbage, skip to page page 137 who get’s it first. However the plan in not correct it was not authorized for Children under 16.

    Phase 1A Health care workers with direct or indirect exposure 503,640 people

    Phase 1B Other essential workers – cops, farm workers, teachers , government employees approx – 776,150 people.

    Phase 1B expanded over 65 population and nursing homes 1,509,251 people

    Phase 2 Remaining general population 4,614,401 people

    https://www.state.nj.us/health/cd/topics/New%20Jersey%20Interim%20COVID-19%20Vaccination%20Plan%20-%2010-26-20%20(1).pdf

  11. No One says:

    Why are there two 1B sections? Does that mean all govt workers get vaccinations in front of old people in nursing homes?

  12. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Affordable housing makes me sick. My problem is this; are we market based capitalism or not? If we are, then we accept the bad that comes with it, which is unaffordable areas and poverty. You can’t have it all.

  13. Juice Box says:

    Speaking of CRISPR and gene editing.

    There is a little known company called the “Pig Improvement Company” it is owned by British animal genetics firm Genus. They have a secret lab in the USA that is modifying Pig DNA using CRISPR, the revolutionary gene scissors. They now have actually created a super breed of pigs that is immune to a virus, porcine reproductive and respiratory syndrome PRRS, and are attempting to eradicate many pig viruses this way, but cutting out pieces of DNA.

    What is scary about CRISPR is the Chinese have done much much more. We do not really know the full extent of their human experiments, but we do know that two years ago the Chinese edited human embryos in hopes of conferring resistance to HIV, same way by cutting out a segments of DNA.

    Again the technology is not complete yet. We can cut out DNA segments, but can we insert DNA segments to fix damaged DNA by cutting out and adding corrected DNA? Or how about adding non-human DNA?

    The future for DNA editing looks both bright and dark at the same time.

  14. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You can’t use capitalism as a lottery ticket. Create a market based system that rewards risk, but then when the winners come about after the risk, you change the rules and take their winnings. People have to learn to accept the market system for what it is. It’s for the greater good, but it’s not perfect. Take away these negatives and it’s no longer capitalism. You will not see the same risk taking..you changed the rules.

    Why should I pay up for an area, if it can be destroyed by affordable housing? Wtf did I pay for….you changed it!!

  15. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Affordable housing is just like social!sm. Sounds great until it comes at your cost

    Go tell mahomes he should be paid the same as darnold in the name of social!sm. No one would agree with that, but then why do they apply it to society?

  16. Walking says:

    Anyone read up on the vineyard owner who created the 16′ sonic canon in nj? The canon sends sonic wave 30,000 ft into the sky breaking up clouds. Residents as far away as 10 miles are complaining about the noise. Home are shaken when he blasts it daily. This guy must have dirt on public officials. Officials stated there is nothing they can do as there is no law against having a canon as long as it does not fire a projectile. How about every case where they arrest the person first make his life miserable until he breaks. He said he will continue blasting every night

  17. BRT says:

    Why are there two 1B sections? Does that mean all govt workers get vaccinations in front of old people in nursing homes?

    Teachers are in 1B. I think it’s at the same time.

  18. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Billionaire David Tepper has returned to New Jersey — a move that may cost him $120 million in state income taxes this year.

    Tepper, 63, moved back to the Garden State in January for family reasons, people familiar with the matter said. Last year, he married a long-time New Jersey resident.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-30/tepper-returns-to-high-tax-new-jersey-to-face-120-million-tab

  19. BRT says:

    The county sampled 14 trays of ballots and found accuracy rates between 97.8% and 99.8%, but a count of a tray of ballots from a Glassboro district returned an accuracy rate of only 80.8%.

    Deputy Attorney General Dominic Giova, who represented the county board of elections and the superintendent of elections, insisted the Glassboro error was an outlier and disputed the suggestion that this error could mean a wider ballot counting error.

    “The board’s position is that this was the proverbial needle in a haystack,” Giova said. “With the certifications that were submitted by the petitioner’s counsel, there’s still not at legitimate or specific reason that’s given that would support their petition for a recount.”

    It’s not a needle in a haystack. That’s a systemic problem. Each ballot is it’s own data point and 20% of them are wrong. That’s awful.

  20. BRT says:

    In my mind, the heros in this story are the scientists, from the Chinese scientists who first openly published the DNA encoding of Covid-19 to warn the world, to the scientists who developed the nanoparticle delivery systems.

    Here is what is actually in it.

    https://www.technologyreview.com

    And they are sitting in the lab, making $75k a year while some jerk off in the marketing department takes home a half a million.

  21. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Lol…how did I miss that. All that talk and tepper comes back. Guess jersey isn’t that bad after all…this guy could live anywhere.

  22. Juice Box says:

    6,247 new positive cases yesterday…Seems to be spreading like wildfire.

  23. Juice Box says:

    re: Does that mean all govt workers get vaccinations in front of old people in nursing homes?

    Yes looks that way. 47.3% of deaths are 80 years or older additional 32.2% deaths are 65-79 round it up to 80% + 65 and older die.

    Should they get the vaccine first? Nope their place in line will go to some 25 year old government worker who is working from home since march.

  24. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “China is increasingly exerting state control over the private sector.

    When Xi Jinping became China’s president in 2013, he initially seemed open to advancing a free market economy. He gave influence to regulators who praised stock investing and reduced government control over China’s currency, and even explored bringing in professional managers to control state enterprises instead of Communist Party bureaucrats. Those ideas have largely fallen out of favor, however, as Xi has turned his focus to making sure private companies of all sizes and sectors tailor their businesses toward achieving state goals. He personally intervened this year to stop Ant Group’s $34 billion IPO, partly out of concern that the company’s massive personal-loan business wasn’t sufficiently focused on accomplishing Beijing’s goal of limiting financial risk. State-owned firms have increasingly bought stakes in private companies, spending more than $20 billion on such transactions last year, more than double the 2012 level. The government has also compelled some companies to install committees of Communist Party members inside their corporate offices, encouraging them to take on decision-making roles. With a smaller portion of manufacturing and infrastructure investment now coming from the private sector, China’s economy has become less efficient.”

  25. The Great Pumpkin says:

    55 million — The number of workers across the U.S. who qualify as essential, according to an analysis from the Economic Policy Institute, a progressive think tank. In part because the federal government has largely deferred to state and local officials to determine which roles should fall under that designation, businesses are lobbying to persuade authorities that their employees qualify—and should receive priority access to Covid-19 vaccines as soon after front-line health workers are immunized.

    $157 billion — The amount of money raised so far this year in initial public offerings as of Thursday, making 2020 the most lucrative year for IPOs on record.

    $25,000 — The amount of money the National Basketball Association fined Brooklyn Nets star Kyrie Irving this week for repeatedly refusing to participate in mandatory media sessions. Irving responded on Instagram to the punishment, saying: “I do not talk to Pawns.”

    31 — The number of years Richard DeLisi, now 71 years old, spent in prison for a nonviolent marijuana crime. The Last Prisoner Project, a nonprofit that advocates for the release of people incarcerated for marijuana offenses, said DeLisi served the longest prison term in the U.S. for a nonviolent marijuana crime. He was released this week from a facility in Palm Beach County, Fla.

    1.43% — The percentage of new Covid-19 cases in New York City linked to bars and restaurants, according to contact-tracing data released by Gov. Andrew Cuomo. Cuomo ordered a halt to indoor dining starting Monday, dealing a blow to the city’s struggling restaurants.

    55% — The reduction in greenhouse-gas emissions that European Union member states have agreed to achieve by 2030 relative to 1990 levels. Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission, said the agreement puts the bloc on pace to be carbon neutral by 2050.

    20% — The percentage of respondents in a poll of 1,000 Democratic voters who listed Andrew Yang as their first choice for New York City mayor. The former Democratic presidential candidate, who campaigned on giving Americans a $1,000 monthly stipend, has reportedly been calling elected officials in New York to gauge support for a possible mayoral bid.

  26. Phoenix says:

    Well, there is a reason the pilot and the co-pilot don’t eat the same meal on the flight.

    You would think this strategy would be used in a situation like this with a hurried vaccine.

    Then again the American thought process always revolves around money. Not quality, not ethics, not morals, not precision, not honor.

    It’s one of the biggest gifts the boomers are ever going to get, since they are the most likely to die and this is mostly about them. 23 year old little girl nurses are going to be given a shot that later in life could potentially harm them so 90 year old grandma gets to live another 2 years. Better hope they got it right.

  27. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Goodbye Covid, Hello Inflation?

    https://apple.news/AUpMyKacITQKPX9q_n9W8jQ

  28. Juice Box says:

    Little girl nurses would not need the shot if the gave it to the boomers first as the hospitals would be empty in about 1 month as immunity takes about 10 days after the first shot. We should start seeing a drop off in hospitalization in England in a few weeks.

  29. Phoenix says:

    Boomers in America, being the self centered bas*turds that they are, will refuse this and let the little girl nurses get it first. Later on when all the boomers are gone who knows, maybe birth defects, etc?

    Greedy old basturds always needing a free donut or free lifetime pass to the Federal park system while driving in their new Lexus to their vacation home all claiming they are so poor, filing claims in NJ that the house that was destroyed during Sandy was their primary residence. Then the old goat wants a hand job with his bed bath from nurse Brittany while Grandma refuses to take care of him, pockets the money, and gives the grandkids 2 year old chicken tenders for lunch.

  30. JUice Box says:

    In NJ as of 10PM December 10th:
    3,571 total hospitalizations
    687 patients in critical or intensive care
    421 ventilators in use

    What percentage of these people are over 65? 80%? If they vaccinated the over 65 crowd first these numbers what keeps us in our homes to “flatten the curve for two weeks” hospitalizations vanish in a month.

  31. Fast Eddie says:

    Government deserves zero credit for the vaccine. Corporations do.

    Do the democrats know this?

  32. ExEssex says:

    tRuMp wAs fIgHtinG fOr Us.

  33. ExEssex says:

    The 30 retailers and restaurant chains that filed for bankruptcy in 2020

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/12/business/retailers-restaurants-bankrupt-2020/index.html

  34. ExEssex says:

    In the US, admission into selective high schools can seem just as difficult to achieve as admission into top-notch universities.

    But for all the hard work and stress, economists have found that elite schools don’t really help students academically any more than their less prestigious counterparts.

    That appears to be just as true for students from more disadvantaged neighborhoods, according to a paper in the October issue of the American Economic Journal: Applied Economics.

    To author Lisa Barrow’s surprise, affirmative-action policies in Chicago high schools were a mixed bag.

    “We thought that if these types of schools were going to matter, Chicago would be where they should matter,” Barrow told the AEA in an interview.

  35. grim says:

    Annoying spammers

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