From NJ1015:
More than 1 in 5 high-risk U.S. housing markets are NJ counties
A 2021 fourth-quarter report released by ATTOM Data Solutions shows that one-fifth of the nation’s counties most at risk for damage to their housing markets due to COVID-19’s ongoing economic impacts were New Jersey jurisdictions counted as part of either the New York or Philadelphia metro areas.
In addition to Bergen, Essex, Hunterdon, Middlesex, Ocean, Passaic, Sussex, Burlington, Camden, and Gloucester counties, Cumberland, Monmouth, and Union also cracked the Top 50.
That’s 13 counties total, out of those 50, right here in the Garden State.
According to Rick Sharga, executive vice president of ATTOM subsidiary RealtyTrac, the calculation of three distinct percentages can put a county at high risk: how much household income it takes to purchase a home, how many homes are underwater (meaning more is owed on the mortgage than the house is worth), and the volume of foreclosure filings.
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“We’re also in a housing market that is booming across the country, and New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, no exceptions to that. The housing markets in those areas are still extraordinarily strong,” he said. “The markets that we’re looking at as being the highest-risk markets are also in states that really haven’t recovered as rapidly as some other states have from the COVID recession.”
It’s “no surprise,” then, that so much of New Jersey is high risk, as unemployment rates here have continued to trend higher than the national average.
“These are all markets that had sort of the tightest government regulations,” Sharga said. “The governments, both state and city governments, felt the need to be a little stricter in terms of battling COVID.”
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Sharga cautions that should the coronavirus trend upward enough again to trigger economic shutdowns, housing markets could collapse in these areas.
“They tend to have a very high percentage of service industry jobs, which are the ones that have been most impacted by the pandemic in the past, and probably would be again if there’s another wave in the future,” he said.
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How long before this style of protest reaches the US?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10458741/Canadian-truckers-stay-Ottawa-thousands-protestors-pledging-continue-create-chaos.html
re: “this style of protest”
Probably not here, I believe the vaccine mandate battle may be over for most employees of large companies. Supreme Court tossed Biden’s mandates for companies with 100 or more employees, and they have now withdrawn their rule from OSHA.
It’s “no surprise,” then, that so much of New Jersey is high risk, as unemployment rates here have continued to trend higher than the national average.
There are job openings listed everywhere. What am I missing here?
NJ is done with vaccines and boosters. Vax rates have completely fallen off a cliff.
2.75m boosters and that’s now hit the wall faster than overall vaccination.
Feel like that’s pointing pretty strongly to change of opinion, especially when compared to the 7.5 million with first doses.
Boosters have fallen off a cliff. At the current run rate we’re looking at a year out to boost everyone that’s been dosed. Caveat – see the next one.
Dose 2 has fallen off a cliff (this is surprising, the data isn’t good but it almost seems like people are deciding not to get the second dose). We have a gap of 1.2 million here, at the current dose 2 rate, we’re looking at almost 2 years out. Maybe there is a little bit of J&J data throwing this off, but this trend is obvious looking at the pfe and Moderna trend graphs.
Dose 1 has fallen off a cliff again post-omicron. This is probably the least surprising given the current coverage of dose 1. We’re just running out of population here. Omicron looks to have been more effective in driving up vaccination rates than mandates.
re:”done with vaccines and boosters”
Done with quarantine too. My brother informed me his vaccinated 13 yr old now has it, and they are not quarantining at home, free to move about and infect everyone else in the house as he put it “get back to regular life”. Just to be clear the kid will not be going to school. I don’t agree of course, nobody knows for sure what the long term effects are for some people long covid can be debilitating. No idea if you can even stop everyone in the house from getting sick but reality is the parents should not be out spreading it in stores or at work either if there is an active infection.
As for housing, it needs to see a 10% haircut and a decade of sideways pricing. There is no way a 3/2 worn cape in Lake Hiawatha should be priced in the 400s.
Certainly done with QT as it applies to having been potentially exposed, that’s for sure.
Spring 2022 will be the return to normal-ish. Once the weather warms up here in the northeast, it’s done, we’re done.
Denmark declared it over, even in the midst of a pretty significant omicron spike.
https://www.politico.eu/article/denmark-becomes-first-eu-country-to-scrap-all-covid-19-restrictions/
Look for many more countries to follow.
I like how the Canadian fringe protests a bit more than their American counterpart. Especially the posters they taped to the doors of public buildings. MLK would have been impressed by their lack of destruction and use of non-violence. Shame the neo-nazis always show up when the right is involved in protest. But, I guess they have the right, in more ways than one.
We went from nonstop hundreds of infections to virtually everyone tested to I only had 1 single positive student this month. It’s gone from our building.
Yep, burned through my daughter’s school as well. Her whole class is back, and morning drop-off traffic is as bad as it ever was. The staffing crunch appears to be improving slightly. They also stopped bringing home books every night last week.
Who would have thought, Canadians getting agitated. It must be the Québécois, they can be quite cranky.
I’d imagine that part of the reason for the booster/second dose drop is that so many people got Omicron. If you got infected they recommend waiting for the booster.
Talked so another parent of the friend of my son who was over yesterday. They are beyond miffed. Hid for 2 years. They got their 3rd shot and just got their kids their first 2 shots right before Christmas break. They even waited the allotted time prior to immunity “kicking in”. They decided to go see Spiderman in the theatres. Even bought the seats next to them so they could be near nobody. Boom, infection, every single on of them. A lot of people are questioning the efficacy after experiences like that. The point is, everyone is asking themselves, what was the point of all these precautions. We should all get vaccinated where appropriate and just move on. If someone chooses not to, that’s their problem.
They are currently testing Omicron updated boosters. The reality is, Delta came from a different lineage than Alpha. Omicron came from a different lineage than Delta. The flu mostly follows the same lineage. Maybe this is the case for the early variants but it appears, we are just too slow to react to this virus. Think about it, they identified Omicron in South Africa and in a month, the entire world has it. While I do know people who have been reinfected, my wife, me, and my kids were not.
From what I’ve seen, being previously infected followed by a single booster has been enough for durable immunity. This goes in line with an article in nature that showed people that have had an infection + booster had what they deemed “super immunity” because they tested them against multiple hypothetical mutated variants created in lab (more Gain of Function research). The media has tried to apply the same concept to those that were boosted and then infected, but so far that’s unproven…not far fetched, but unproven.
BRT,
For a change, I agree with you 100%. Though to clarify, and what is always left out of the politicking, is that the Omicron strain changes the science. It’s like the entire political community is playing Monday morning quarterback. Yes, at this point, mandates are worthless. Heck, signs in windows that business owners put up requiring mask usage are worthless, so it becomes a moot point anyway. On the bright side, it’s nice to see Omicron do what mandates tried to do. Shame, if a new variant comes along that too behaves completely different and Is again less aerosol and more droplet, for which masks might be effective against, it will be impossible to get people to wear masks. Heck, people probably won’t even get boosted again if the drug makers make a true vaccine against that variant, even if the symptoms are deadly.
I still feel terribly for those who decided freedom was worth death and died unvaccinated. I also feel terribly for those who were vaccinated and died for I feel as a country, we really were a selfish nation. My biggest fear is what happens if a strain develops that is both more deadly and more contagious. People are over boosters.
BRT,
Isn’t part of the reason for getting the jab so if you do get the Rona, its is not as severe and less likely to be hospitalized? No data on people who get Rona and difference in severity, hospitalization… of those who get it and are jabbed vs those who are not?
Absolutely. If you haven’t had it, you should probably be jabbed. Although, the research is starting to show, even 1 jab provided long lasting protection against severe illness over a year out for young people. This whole idea of boost everyone is not backed by data. Moreover, the CDC is currently “changing the language” on fully vaccinated, basically looking to characterize people like me who seem to be immune to it all at this point as “not up to date”. The only thing not up to date is the genetic sequence of the shot.
I would like to see us approve the deactivated virus vaccines approved. They are likely much more effective at dealing with all kinds of variants.
I’d imagine that part of the reason for the booster/second dose drop is that so many people got Omicron. If you got infected they recommend waiting for the booster.
Probably explains some, it looks like roughly 750k people hit by omicron in NJ.
The other factor is folks that were given antibody therapy.
Libturd says:
January 31, 2022 at 9:23 am
“I still feel terribly for those who decided freedom was worth death and died unvaccinated. I also feel terribly for those who were vaccinated and died for I feel as a country, we really were a selfish nation.”
Like Ben Franklin, I feel terribly for those who happily traded freedom for a false sense of safety. When/if the objective medical history of this episode is written, it will be noted that it was NOT a pandemic of the unvaccinated, but simply a pandemic of the comorbid.
So in a state of 9.2 million people, we’ve got 7.5 million with at least 1 dose, and roughly 2-2.5 million with previous infection. Given we have no vaccination for 0-5yr, we certainly seem to be as herd protected as we’re ever going to be. Realistically we’re north of 90% of the population with at least 1 vax or previous infection.
Maybe your history. You know. The one of gross misinformation due to political motivation.
To this day, even with the not up to date genetic sequence of the shot. You are 16 x more likely to die than without it.
You can have your freedom. To be stupid. Of course your never-ending misinformation project (where have I seen that before) is equally as stupid, but that goes without saying. This kind of behavior is expected of someone who would walk the plank for the puzzy grabber who still doesn’t believe he lost the election. Like two peas in a pod.
When/if the objective medical history of this episode is written, it will be noted that it was NOT a pandemic of the unvaccinated, but simply a pandemic of the comorbid.
That’s a bit ridiculous since comorbidity is the case for nearly every disease.
BRT, the shots didn’t even really work(well at least) against Delta. My sister’s family who were all vax’d and boosted all got it in November. My daughter’s friends family got it again both parents vaxed and boosted, they got pretty sick(not hospital sick though). My friend and his wife who were vaxed and boosted, wife was previously infected both got omicron over christmas, she was asymptomatic but he was sick(again prior infection for the win). We had delta back in November I did not get it(prior infection plus the vax) but my wife got it and it was super mild, she said the vax side effects were frankly worse and pretty much exactly the same(headache, body ache, lethargy, fever…).
Omicron changed the game at this point if you had any shot or prior infection you are as good as you can get at this point there is literally zero benefit to the boosters because the antibodies produced don’t bind to omicron. I almost think there is a deleterious effect because the immune system can get fatigued.
I’ve heard more than one person mention wanting to wait for a more effective booster.
William Wallace’s feeling on ‘Rona and mask wearing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcZ-DaRkj5g
BRT you may have gotten Omicron and not even noticed it, as I was saying my friend got it and his wife who was previously infected only found out because she tested, pretty much zero symptoms it was that mild. I’m not convinced my delta infected family hasn’t been exposed and had asymptomatic omicron, the virus is everywhere and my kids are literal germ factories.
Questioning the efficacy..
Again there are no long term studies as it’s only been 67 days since Omicron was discovered in South Africa and deemed a variant of concern. So they best we have is the blood of the infected, some cloned human lung cells and a few petri dishes and some lab work.
Scientists in South Africa first tested this variant in the petri dish and found that the Pfizer vaccine’s neutralization protection dropped over 40-fold against the Omicron variant, meaning it is way way less potent in causing an immediate immune system reaction to it’s presence.
https://www.ahri.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/MEDRXIV-2021-267417v1-Sigal.pdf
There are 141,000 people hospitalized in the USA right with Covid and 25,000 in the ICU. Vaccinated or not some of these people won’t survive Omicron, so that being said we are headed to endemic as nobody cares anymore.
Libturd says:
January 31, 2022 at 9:47 am
“Maybe your history. You know. The one of gross misinformation due to political motivation.”
You mean like this, as the WSJ noted: “Far from providing leadership, agencies such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and figures such as Anthony Fauci have a record of projecting their own unfounded speculation as authoritative scientific judgments on matters in which they lack clear evidence. Recall how the CDC spent spring 2020 attempting to dissuade the public from buying masks, how Dr. Fauci described the risk of Covid to the U.S. as “minuscule” in late February 2020, and how “two weeks to flatten the curve” morphed into two months, then a year.”
Fauci and the CDC Undermined Public Trust (WSJ) — https://www.wsj.com/articles/fauci-cdc-trust-covid-masks-delta-11628112600
Had some freight delivered down from Montreal last year.
Trucker was hardcore Quebecois. He would fit right in, in the American south or midwest. Older gentleman, owner operator, slept in his truck in the parking lot before we opened to meet him. No problem getting his hands dirty rigging some huge tanks. Great guy.
He is biased. Understand this. I can’t stand when people act like a vaccine is more harmful than helpful…it’s their right, but just annoys me.
Nomad says:
January 31, 2022 at 9:25 am
BRT,
Isn’t part of the reason for getting the jab so if you do get the Rona, its is not as severe and less likely to be hospitalized? No data on people who get Rona and difference in severity, hospitalization… of those who get it and are jabbed vs those who are not?
JCer,
Vaccines, including the regular flu vaccine, do not guarantee prevention. It’s a real guessing game when it comes to nailing the likely variant. Though it will always reduce the time you are sick, the amount of time you are infectious to others and in most cases, significantly diminishes your chances of dying. Some people get chicken pox more than once. Some people get chicken pox even when vaccinated.
I am not sure why everyone believe vaccines are infallible? They are not. What they are is one of many keys to ensuring you are less vulnerable to the virus and that you will have a better chance of surviving it. When the strain is correct, vaccines also help prevent the spread of these viruses.
Man, I feel sorry for you. To each and their own. Bringing Ben Franklin into this…lmao. He would smart enough to know go with the vaccine.
Again, remember how you were spewing how the vaccine is dangerous. How many people have taken the vaccine? Where are all the people that are being harmed by the vaccine? Please show me.
SmallGovConservative says:
January 31, 2022 at 9:40 am
Libturd says:
January 31, 2022 at 9:23 am
“I still feel terribly for those who decided freedom was worth death and died unvaccinated. I also feel terribly for those who were vaccinated and died for I feel as a country, we really were a selfish nation.”
Like Ben Franklin, I feel terribly for those who happily traded freedom for a false sense of safety. When/if the objective medical history of this episode is written, it will be noted that it was NOT a pandemic of the unvaccinated, but simply a pandemic of the comorbid.
Lib – “why everyone believe vaccines are infallible?”
Because Sleepy Joe told me so????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SkzTa8HRDk
Lib: re: I am not sure why everyone believe vaccines are infallible?
Sleepy Joe told me so…..”If you are fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear a mask.”
How many times do I have to explain what you already know.
Fauci did screw up. But unlike you, it was not for political reasons and he did not intentionally misinform like you choose to do at every opportunity, much like your sh1t-for-brain leader.
Fauci told people to cloth mask to save masks for the front line workers when it appeared there was going to be a shortage. In retrospect, looking at how STUPID a large portion of the population is (I mean, just look in the mirror), if Fauci said run out and get masks, the selfish portion of the population (you know, the anti-mandate crowd) would horde them making it impossible for front line workers to protect themselves from the earlier variants, when the masks were quite affective. Should Fauci have told the truth? Ask the same question of Trump every time he made a false prediction. Like Covid would have been over by Easter. Or injecting bleach. Or
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/timeline-trump-claims-as-president/?itid=lk_inline_manual_10
Holy face ripper. I’m getting my a** kicked today.
“Sleepy Joe told me so…..”If you are fully vaccinated, you no longer need to wear a mask.”
Oh come on. Now you follow his advice? This was preOmicron
How convenient. This was preOmicron and true at the time. But you know this. The science changed as the droplets became more aerosol with Omicron. Plus, it was much more contagious. Once the world was flat too. Then the telescope was invented.
Hate the political BS.
He is biased. Understand this. I can’t stand when people act like a vaccine is more harmful than helpful…it’s their right, but just annoys me.
You didn’t get your daughter vaccinated.
The Great Pumpkin says:
January 31, 2022 at 10:02 am
“Again, remember how you were spewing how the vaccine is dangerous.”
To quote Gene Hackman from Mississippi Burning, “Don’t you go confusin’ me with some whole other body…”. I’m vaxxed and boosted, and in between managed to squeeze in both doses of the Shingles vaccine (this one will really hit you, by the way) and my flu shots. I just don’t get worked up about the unvaccinated like you pantywaists.
BRT,
I’m actually in a decent position with these small rallies being close to 40/60. I am only getting a few paper cuts. My thought process stinks right now though going forward though. My discipline tells me to put in another 10% by the end of today if this holds up. My brain tells me it’s a dead cat bounce because we haven’t seen the market perform with asset purchasing ending and money being removed from the till, as well as the symbolic interest rate increases occuring.
I prefer to put my money in a ratio of what I predict will occur. Right now, I’m feeling more 50/50 by the day.
Still think the drop will come. But still feel there’s too much easy money floating around the system.
And to those who have boycotted the NFL, the last 6 playoff games were nearly the best ever. And hardly any BLM kowtowing.
Lib – Delta was the strain, and Biden tried to spike the ball after only being President for three months, they had to recant that little mess up only 60 days later, as we went back to masks and social distancing. Now the Hospitals have more patients than ever. This is his failure now, the Orange Clown has zero to do with the latest body counts that is for sure.
Grim: I know a few Québécois, hard working and very proud people. Don’t really identify as Canadian. If you have not already been there I would recommend Quebec City; the old city is absolutely beautiful, nothing like it in North America. The young people are great, ok with being part of Canada (at least for now) , but quite proud of their French language and heritage.
Juice,
Won’t deny that Biden has been even more ineffective against Covid than Trump was.
But I saw nothing wrong with him telling people to take off their masks when the odds of those vaccinated infecting each other at the time were just about zero. Picking on a quite he made in May of 2021, when Delta was just about over it’s seasonal trend is not a lie or misinformation.
Telling people they shouldn’t get vaccinated? To this day, is still incorrect. Yet, until recently, Trump would not promote vaccination.
You simply can’t compare the two.
Trump’s position was politically motivated. As stupid as driving around in that limo unmasked, when he was still infectious Biden’s position was backed by the science at the time.
Believe what you want.
Look, I am admitting Biden’s handling of Covid is a complete sh1tshow. He is letting corporate profit dictate his every move. Would anyone else expect anything different from a lifetime establishment politician? I didn’t vote for him. But him saying you can remove your masks if you are vaccinated when the number of cases was extremely low was not irresponsible. It was the truth at the time.
I took all my shorts off the table and am sitting out the volatility. Shoulda done it after Friday’s massacre. But that’s the luxury of being up 40% on most of them. I gave at least another 10% back in two days. Shoulda followed left…because it’s never supposed to be this easy. I still think this thing has legs as earnings come in and people assume all is well because Apple and Microsoft posted good numbers.
3b,
Yes, the Quebecois are fiercely French in nature. Heck, ask them who the greatest hockey player ever was and 9 out of 10 would say Mario Lemieux. The French love a good protest. My sister is married to a French citizen. You think I’m up in arms over politics. This guy is literally full-time depressed. Yes, Canada is nearly secondary to Quebecois. They frequently try to secede too.
No one knows for sure, but this looks like a head fake. I still think market will reach new lows sooner than later.
Juice,
For the record. July 27th.
“In areas with substantial and high transmission, CDC recommends fully vaccinated people wear masks in public, indoor settings to help prevent the spread of the delta variant, and protect others. This includes schools,” CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said.
The CDC also recommended that everyone in grade schools wear masks indoors, “including teachers, staff, students and visitors, regardless of vaccination status.”
Two months ago, the CDC told fully vaccinated people they no longer needed to wear masks in most settings, and the White House had pitched the lead up to the July 4 holiday as a “summer of freedom” to celebrate progress made fighting the virus.
However, the highly transmissible delta variant has become the dominant strain since then, leading to a spike of infections across the country, particularly in areas with low vaccination rates. The Biden administration, after making major inroads in its vaccination campaign during the winter and spring, has struggled to boost immunization rates during the summer.
Believe what you want.
“Omicron looks to have been more effective in driving up vaccination rates than mandates.”
No one but the most dyed-in-the-wool liberal would have thought otherwise. Since the time humans are three years old they do not like being told what to do by other humans.
“Talked so another parent who was over yesterday. They are beyond miffed. Hid for 2 years. They got their 3rd shot… and Boom, infection…The point is, everyone is asking themselves, what was the point of all these precautions. We should all get vaccinated where appropriate and just move on.”
No ‘everyone’ is not asking asking themselves that…
Your friends fear and paranoia controlled normal peoples lives for the better part of two years…today we have ‘Karens’, when I was growing up we had ‘Nervous Nellies’… you know, the moms who put helmets, elbow pads, and knee pads on their kids learning how to ride a bike.
Why the fcuk should these people be in charge? Answer, they shouldn’t.
Your fear is not my priority.
“My biggest fear is what happens if a strain develops that is both more deadly and more contagious. People are over boosters.”
The most adverse effect coming out of this mess is that one of the very few entities recognized as universally objective and the gold standard has lost credibility.
FDA and CDC will not rebound. I agree, Lord help us when the next event occurs, a large proportion of the populace will simply not listen to great deleterious effect.
TY on WSJ link, I’ll have to read.
When/if the objective medical history of this episode is written, it will be noted that it was NOT a pandemic of the unvaccinated, but simply a pandemic of the comorbid. To this day, even with the not up to date genetic sequence of the shot. You are 16 x more likely to die than without it.That’s a bit ridiculous since comorbidity is the case for nearly every disease.I am not sure why everyone believe vaccines are infallible?
oops, sorry, some cut/paste stuff made its way in as the final paragraph
Lib -re :Believe what you want
I don’t believe politicians, that is a pretty good foundation for me anyway..
BTW – Our Governor lockdown is in DC today meeting with President for the Governors Association etc.
No masks and no social distancing, lets see what happens when the cameras are turned on.
https://twitter.com/MitchLandrieu46/status/1487837128209879045/photo/1
So what was the answer for this pandemic? When the virus first arrived, we should have just ignored it and went on with our lives? Not being a smart ass, just trying to understand your positions.
My biggest fear is what happens if a strain develops that is both more deadly and more contagious.
Not likely to happen. Evolution dictates a less deadly virus is more likely to transmit. Moreover, natural immunity is real and gives the body the ability to fight off subsequent infections much more easily.
So wait, you want me to lay out my positions for the 50th time so you can call me anti-vax again?
“This has the look and feel of a classic bear-market rally!
Nothing has changed in terms of the monetary and macro backdrop, stocks are simply rallying from a severely oversold condition.
No crystal ball here but rally likely to end in 10-14 days, then final leg down into March.”
LA ups their masking requirement for students, no more clot masks allowed meanwhile not far away.
https://www.kcra.com/article/gov-newsom-no-mask-49ers-rams-game-despite-mandate/38936771#
BRT,
I’m not saying I’m correct, just what I see….I have yet to meet one democrat that thinks we were better off just living and letting the weak die. I have met republicans that over and over take the position that we should have done nothing and just go on with your life. I’m interested in understanding why such a drastic position based on political affiliation. Why? Why is it this way?
I have yet to meet one democrat that thinks we were better off just living and letting the weak die.
I have…and it’s you. You specifically said, all those people in the nursing homes were on their way out already.
Pumps – Here is one prominent democrat who thinks we were better off just living and letting the weak die.
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/591996-murphy-says-time-for-state-to-learn-how-to-live-with-covid-19
BRT, Lib…you guys know my MO….markets long term go to the right and up and within that reality I position to respond near and longer term to extreme movements when they happen.
Closed much of my pure longs quite a while ago, closed my shorts more recently, and am synthetically long for a while now in situations where I will gain 10-40% annualized or take delivery of names like MSFT, MS, FB, PYPL, JBLU, etc at share prices 10-20% down from here….
Big week of earnings…has some potential to outperform with big tech, big software, energy, and autos….if anything, those sectors should do well….up to expectations? Who knows.
Google ‘theta decay’ and ‘volatility crush’ for details. On the latter, apply it longer term than overnight or event specific.
I have some trades causing agita, the VIX positions I mentioned the other day….on those though I am risking 3% of my portfolio for a 12% or better return on the entire portfolio in a month in a situation that has historically an 80+% probability of occurring…that is a curve I can usually only dream about and would take that trade all day long, but, it doesn’t keep me from getting whipsawed all over the place…
My biggest challenge is to not fiddle with the ‘set and forget’ positions as under the surface there is usually a lot of movement….you can tell when I’m fighting the urge to over-trade, I spend more time on here. You guys want me to STFU bring on market volatility lol.
I get it now, but from the get go. Why were so many Republicans taking the position to let the week die?
Juice Box says:
January 31, 2022 at 11:30 am
Pumps – Here is one prominent democrat who thinks we were better off just living and letting the weak die.
Who says I am a democrat? I jump from side to side based on their positions. Neither side owns me.
BRT says:
January 31, 2022 at 11:23 am
I have yet to meet one democrat that thinks we were better off just living and letting the weak die.
I have…and it’s you. You specifically said, all those people in the nursing homes were on their way out already.
I’m talking about die hards. Not moderates.
Democrats love the death panels. It frees up Obammy Care money for those who truly deserve medical care. You know, younger and more forward-thinking folks.
Pumps – You get what now? Confounding variables? The messaging is changing NOW because of the mid-terms. The democrats cannot get out from under their every increasing body count. If you elect them they promised to end the pandemic remember? They just now realized you cannot stop an ever mutating corona virus? I don’t think so. Covid was a gift to the Democrats it gave them a huge amount of political ammo to criticize the republicans for Covid spreading and killing allot of people and now that we are headed into another election cycle they have to figure a way to squirm out from their body count and declare the end to the pandemic, so it’s NOW over just live with it.
Just like Cuomo hiding all the deaths in the nursing homes because it’s politically inconvenient, they have changed the calculations for excess deaths and tweaked breakthrough infection reporting. Pretty soon there may no longer be any real data on what is what even though another 1/2 million people died by election day this year from Covid.
It is again going to be an ugly election cycle with Billion spent on one thing and one thing only maintaining power.
Who says I am a democrat? I jump from side to side based on their positions. Neither side owns me.
I know. Typically, left leaning people are on the right side of about 30% of things. Typically right leaning people are on the right side of about 30% of things. Then there is you, 100% wrong 100% of the time.
Pumpkin thinks like a Democrat. Except when it goes against his personal interests, namely being a NJ landlord, a Wayne homeowner who don’t want poor minorities or ping pong palaces in his neighborhood, and teacher in poor school districts that might be blamed for the poor results of his students. He also wants people back in the office ASAP to help out his wife’s career, the primary breadwinner of the household.
He quickly flips between sounding like Meathead on society in general, and Archie Bunker, when he’s talking his own book.
Here is how it’s polling now. The politicians need to get their messaging right now for the midterms.
” Kaiser Family Foundation poll published last week found that 75 percent of Americans said they were tired of the pandemic.
Seventy-four percent of Democrats, 72 percent of Republicans and 80 percent of independents said they were tired of COVID-19, and more than 70 percent of each group said they were frustrated by the pandemic.
I like how you guys put people down for flipping positions.
I don’t care about being correct anymore. Just interested in finding answers. I will continue to ask questions.
Let’s start with this.
No one, do you go against yourself, or do you vote on positions that help you? What’s the benefit of going with a position that doesn’t help you?
Whe
That’s fine with me. Nothing wrong with being incorrect. Is there something wrong with not always being correct? Are you ever wrong?
BRT says:
January 31, 2022 at 12:01 pm
Who says I am a democrat? I jump from side to side based on their positions. Neither side owns me.
I know. Typically, left leaning people are on the right side of about 30% of things. Typically right leaning people are on the right side of about 30% of things. Then there is you, 100% wrong 100% of the time.
Kaiser Family Foundation poll published last week found that 75 percent of Americans said they were tired of the pandemic.
You can see this being played out across so many areas right now, from masking compliance, social distancing, parent comments on Facebook, reactions (or lack thereof) during the Omicron surge.
The Wayne Moms who were hellbent on closing schools and keeping their kids home in the early part of the pandemic were all the same ones who were screaming against the prospect of going virtual earlier this month. Friend of mine who was very careful with their kids early on was complaining to me that they had to take their kid for a PCR test to be cleared, as opposed to just a home rapid test. A year ago, having a potential exposure in the workplace resulted in chaos, today it’s like a standard HR practice, if even that.
What I really want to know is who the hell are the other 25%?
Just as I figured the cameras are rolling and it’s all N95 masks on now.
Governor Murphy is speaking now, Pres and VP are remote so they took their masks off.
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1MnxnkyqpjwKO
Yes the other 25%, perhaps they are the smart ones? A small percentage of a high number of infections can yield a very high number of deaths, and the body count is trending up, projections show possibly as high as another 300,000 dead by the end of March.
There there is the fatigue within the medical community contributing to the body count.
“In places with extremely short staffing and overloads of patients, as the medical professionals have been telling us, the quality of care begins to suffer,” Lipsitch said. “That may also lead to higher death rates, but that’s not in any of the models that I’m aware of.”
How long before the National Guard goes awol on diaper duty?
Lib: I give the Québécois a lot of credit for being able to hold on to their language and culture while being surrounded by 300 million plus English speakers. If you have not been to Quebec City I highly recommend it. Much more French then Montreal.
“He quickly flips between sounding like Meathead on society in general, and Archie Bunker, when he’s talking his own book.”
You owe me a keyboard, as mine is now covered in coffee……
Brt got me with
“Then there is you, 100% wrong 100% of the time.”
You had to mention Quebec City. Can’t help but post this. Too damn funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM7jw9SUAQ4
..and the outtakes, maybe even funnier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiJjBFNAldY
re: “You had to mention Quebec City”
Yeah…the second link the scene with the snowman in the mall. I was there in 9th grade, my high school band trip to Quebec. We played right there in front of those very escalators in the video of the Snowman and Triumph the comic dog. We were staying large hotel with the revolving restaurant at the top, it was right at the entrance to old town. Rest of our free time in the evening etc we ran around the old town and as the chaperones let us be, it’s a nice place nothing like it anywhere else in North America. Turns out a group of girls brought some marijuana and smoked in in their hotel room got caught and their parents had to drive up the 500 miles to pick up them up…Fun times for sure, except for the long bus ride we only stopped once along the way, really not great when you down a two liter bottle of soda and the bus won’t stop, we had to beg for an emergency stop. Fun Times…
Bystander: Thanks. Absolutely hysterical!!
Juice: Old Quebec City is beautiful, and some fantastic restaurants!!
I miss comic.
The actor who controls him is a riot. He’s been on Stern a number of times and he’s really the mastermind behind the whole thing.
I miss the crap outta Conan. He was my post-college late night fling. I find him so much more entertaining than the rest of the characters who do late night shows both before and currently. Letterman was my second favorite. No one else came close.
Are you ever wrong?
Of course. I’m wrong.
Being wrong isn’t a bad thing like they teach you in school. It is an opportunity to learn something.
-Richard Feynman
Stupidity is knowing the truth, seeing the truth but still believing the lies. And that is more infectious than any other disease. —Richard Feynman
The difference is, I have the discipline to look at things and adjust my view accordingly. I also have the humility to admit it. You have neither. I mean, I’ve watched you say you were wrong, then double down again. Dr. Jekyl does not get credit for Mr. Hyde’s admission he was wrong.
Spotify up 10%. How many listeners has Rogan gained since those dinosaurs started their temper tantrum? Millions.
Corolla nails this. The left now backs the man. The man is not cool. Fvck the man. Biden and Fauci are a gift to the right.
Just interested in finding answers. I will continue to ask questions.
Funny, Joe Rogan’s instagram video said the same thing. But you still want to ban him right?
Spotify is moving with the rest of the tech stocks in unison. It’s a buying frenzy today.
Okay. So at best it was irrelevant. I wouldn’t disagree.
I saw the video. Asking some questions.
Why does he acknowledge that he needs to have some other experts on his program?
Is he acknowledging that it is wrong to only have some of the minority opinions in the field as the voice of authority on his program?
There a thousands of experts that share the same position, but why does he give the voice to the few? How many other scientists or doctors agree with the positions of the disgruntled scientist?
When was the last time this disgruntled scientist actually practiced science? Seems like after grad school he had a mental breakdown and left the field.
Why do so many other scientists not agree with this disgruntled scientist? Why does he become the authority on vaccines to Rogan’s followers? Because they like the message he spreads?
Why do rogan’s followers refuse to listen to the majority of scientists on the subject? Why do they instead focus on one guy as the voice of reason?
BRT says:
January 31, 2022 at 2:02 pm
Just interested in finding answers. I will continue to ask questions.
Funny, Joe Rogan’s instagram video said the same thing. But you still want to ban him right?
Another question. Is arkk dead? When is it going to die?
“Biden chose Harris as his VP because of the color of her skin and sex—not qualification. She’s been a disaster,” Gabbard wrote on Twitter. “Now he promises to choose Supreme Court nominee on the same criteria. Identity politics is destroying our country.”
The Great Pumpkin says:
January 31, 2022 at 2:33 pm
Another question. Is arkk dead? When is it going to die?
No its not dead, but on the money channel today they said 1.4 billion was withdrawn by investors in January. That has got to hurt, also known as a vote of no confidence.
Pumpkin, When do you work??
Hey bonehead, why don’t you try to develop some intellectual curiosity and listen and yourself.
Or if you are interested in the fauci narrative then stick with the main stream echo chamber. You’ll be left with a lot of lose ends but a lot of people seem to be able to choke it down.
Why does he acknowledge that he needs to have some other experts on his program?
He has, and they’ve given their own views.
Is he acknowledging that it is wrong to only have some of the minority opinions in the field as the voice of authority on his program?
He doesn’t have a single opinion on his show. Prior to Malone he had Sanjay Gupta of CNN. You obviously think he only has right wingers on.
There a thousands of experts that share the same position, but why does he give the voice to the few? How many other scientists or doctors agree with the positions of the disgruntled scientist?
Yes, guys like Martin Kuldorf and Jay Battacharya of Harvard and Stanford Medical Schools agree with Malone. But you wouldn’t know this, but he had a convention of thousands medical scientists in Europe on this topic.
When was the last time this disgruntled scientist actually practiced science? Seems like after grad school he had a mental breakdown and left the field.
First off, you’ve never been in a science department. 2nd, you obviously didn’t do your homework on Malone. He was actually one of the main guys we relied upon to develop a protocol during the Zika virus. His body of work speaks for itself.
Why do so many other scientists not agree with this disgruntled scientist? Why does he become the authority on vaccines to Rogan’s followers? Because they like the message he spreads?
Fauci and others at the NIH are in complete control of their funding. That’s why they are dangerous. They can end the careers of any scientist who disagrees with them.
Why do rogan’s followers refuse to listen to the majority of scientists on the subject? Why do they instead focus on one guy as the voice of reason?
The second any of these “majority” are willing to come face to face with Malone or McCullough and debate them, people might. Instead, they hide and cast ad hominem attacks that you eat up.
Ok, I tried, I know I’m speaking to an empty telephone.
3B/Lib,
“I thought Babar lived in Paris?” Freakin’ gets me every time. Robert Smigel is one of the most brilliant comedians of our time. Like with Stone/Parker, he gets hypocrisy, humor, absurdism and violence as a form of entertainment and turns in back in our faces. I was not born when Shazzan was out but kind of remember it in re-runs when I was kid (maybe with Johnny Quest?). This is brutal but spot on regarding glorification of twisted violence that we took for granted decades ago. PC culture took this all away now. Could never run it now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdSz3rjgxOM
Good timing on Rogan.
So I listened to his latest podcast from last Thursday. I see he works a Howard Stern schedule. Off Friday and Monday? Well he is interviewing a 34 year-old female spear fisher from Canada. I listened for nearly 90 minutes. It’s like every other podcast there. He really needs to do more pre-interview research to gain my ear. Though it was a bit of an interesting topic as they delved into sustainability, eating seals and dolphins, mercury poisoning, octopi, hunting elk and being chased off by grizzlies. There was way too much focus on social networking, youtube videos and really a little too much internet research occurring as the show goes on. I’ve listened to tons of podcasts. Not a lot is invested to this show. I give Joe credit for getting so far with so little. He is clearly intelligent and has his finger on what interests the younger crowd.
Obviously, the whole Young & Mitchell movement was about helping their own brand. This has nothing to do with Joe Rogan and everything to do with what people think about free speech. Is it dangerous for untruths to be spread? Sure. It is anyone’s right to stop it? Well that is questionable. I would like to believe that the populace is smart enough to know right from wrong. Sadly, I know I’m kidding myself. So be it.
Lefty, you are not going to be happy, but I have to stick by my discipline.
I am 50/50 across the board. Added to my WRK position and Amazon too. Though in my IRAs mostly VUG. All tax protected. 401Ks are back to a mix of 50% stable and a three way between small cap, large cap and international.
Now I wait and see which way the winds blow. No harm, no foul. The return on my 401K is down under 5% this year before today. Not complaining.
I expect horizontal trading until April. Then it’s Fed/Inflation versus pent up travel demand. Nearly everything in Costa Rica is fully booked up for April. Crazy.
BRT/Jim….
He didn’t type those long paragraphs. Cut and paste for a reaction.
He tried to get a rise earlier with a comment on futures (no one bit). He tried with comments on HOOD. No one bit. ARKK is his go to….he doesn’t believe, he doesn’t care, he’s not even really invested (pocket change). He just wants to stir the pot.
Anything to get a rise.
BRT I’m sure your point by point responses are well thought and reasoned. And wasted.
He has literally stated – type these exact words on here – that he is ‘trolling’ and ‘just breaking your chops’.
Gotcha.
https://www.tripsavvy.com/catch-and-release-unhook-fish-properly-1310783
Jim,
Moving the goal posts. I ask again, is arkk dying like I’ve been told on here all f’ing year? When are you guys own it? It went up 10% in one day. Exactly like I said would happen whenever it changes direction. I still think this is a head fake based on what is going on, but we will see, maybe this is the bottom.
That last post goes for all the others that were ripping arkk endlessly that it would die off like the .com era. The whole time I’m screaming value, and you guys were screaming it is dead. All day every f/ing day. Will you own it? Hell no. You guys are never wrong and ignore my f/ing calls as if they were nothing.
Lefty was the clown this past summer saying houses aren’t going higher. I told him to remember this post. That I said the prices will be higher in 2022. Of course he now switches his position and says it’s inevitable. Yea okay, buddy. Everyone and their mother was calling bubble top this past summer in real estate. But you do you, you aren’t man enough to say you are wrong and someone else is right….esp someone you belittle. You turd.
They are not stupid enough to be baited into a debate with losers in their field. Are you this naive? Why in the world would they debate losers who get no respect in their field anymore..
“The second any of these “majority” are willing to come face to face with Malone or McCullough and debate them, people might. Instead, they hide and cast ad hominem attacks that you eat up.”
Just paid $3.19 a gallon at the pump. Thank you Brandon
You know what I realized about BRT. He is always on the conspiracy side of science. Dude actually took the position that climate change is good for this planet and our species. Brt, stop going into those forums that are sending you down the rabbit hole.
No idea why Gupta went on there. What happened? Rogan tried to bait him into losing his credibility. Rogan has an agenda even though he acts like he is some unbiased moderator. Sure.
“Is he acknowledging that it is wrong to only have some of the minority opinions in the field as the voice of authority on his program?
He doesn’t have a single opinion on his show. Prior to Malone he had Sanjay Gupta of CNN. You obviously think he only has right wingers on.”
An enigmatic scientist’s work in San Diego in the late 1980s proved to be an important step in the road to the COVID-19 vaccines.
Today, he’s one of the most prominent critics of the technology he claims to have helped invent, a highly credentialed medical doctor who has amplified falsehoods and “predatory medical misinformation” about the shots, according to a letter signed by nearly 300 medical experts.
“I think everything he’s done in the past year to sow doubt about the technology will be far more consequential in the grand scheme of things than experiments he did to move the science forward 30-plus years ago,” said Elie Dolgin, the science writer who profiled Malone and other vaccine trailblazers for Nature magazine.
Dolgin said he sees Felgner as a potential contender for the Nobel Prize whenever it’s awarded for the mRNA vaccines. Last summer, Dr. Felgner shared Spain’s version of the Nobel Prize, the Asturias Award, with six other mRNA vaccine pioneers.
There’s a scientific argument that Dr. Malone should be in the conversation too, Dolgin said, but it’s hard to imagine given his crusade against the technology and the scientific consensus surrounding the safety and efficacy of the shots.
“He wants to be seen as the inventor of this technology, and when he wasn’t by the scientific establishment, I don’t know – maybe he just turned against it,” he said.
“There a thousands of experts that share the same position, but why does he give the voice to the few? How many other scientists or doctors agree with the positions of the disgruntled scientist?
Yes, guys like Martin Kuldorf and Jay Battacharya of Harvard and Stanford Medical Schools agree with Malone. But you wouldn’t know this, but he had a convention of thousands medical scientists in Europe on this topic.”
So this guy is the authority when he hasn’t worked on it in 30 years. Like wtf. He might be smart, but he has lost his f/ing mind.
Malone made how many people scared of the vaccine? Like wtf?! Look at how many people have taken the vaccine multiple times and are fine. So his credibility is shot. Yet, he is still your hero. Wake up.
Is ark dead? Asking for a friend.
Yea, I don’t believe. Just spent the past year defending it for no reason but trolling. You keep telling yourself that. I truly believe in high growth disruptive tech. It’s my highest conviction.
“ARKK is his go to….he doesn’t believe, he doesn’t care, he’s not even really invested (pocket change). He just wants to stir the pot.”
“I have a strange confidence that we’re going to have plenty of water,” Garcetti says on a break on his day-long tour of water resources and communities north of L.A. that help hydrate his city.
Los Angeles has grown and thrived by piping in water from faraway places, and with meager precipitation and fast-melting snowpack the norm, a drier future almost certainly awaits. But observers say Garcetti’s confidence in L.A.’s potential for self-reliance is well founded.
“The L.A. area is going to be the epicenter of climate adaptation in urban water in the world,” says Felicia Marcus, the former chair of the California State Water Resources Control Board and former board president of L.A.’s department of public works who is now a visiting fellow at Stanford University. “It’s going to be expensive, but it’s going to seem like a bargain compared to being without water.”
https://apple.news/Aj1wpso4bSbSMf6XNgdqDHw
Someone that doesn’t realize they are the sheep and rogan the fox.
“This is why Joe Rogan has a larger audience than the mainstream media.
Rational, measured, apologetic when necessary, and genuinely curious.
We need more Joe Rogans and less divisive lunatics.”
Someone that gets it.
“Disagree. I believe he puts on a convincing “neutral” front to people who already tend to believe a certain way. When he had Sanjay Gupta on, he was ready to debate, and present counter arguments. When he interviewed Robert Malone, he just nodded along with everything.”
Lib, with you 100%. Very important to trade/invest one’s personality. In times of stress we revert back to what is hardwired in our individual DNA. If people are in situations they are not comfortable when SHTF, as it does occasionally, the reversion back to one’s basic instincts are going to be at exactly the worst time. And hurt.
My investing setup is actually fairly conservative – aligns with my internals – as I have about 1/4 of my portfolio invested to get a solid annualized return over the entire portfolio with limited risk until the market is 10% or so down.
My tendencies will have me struggle with two items….when to jump back in with the other 75% especially if we don’t see that kind of pullback and secondly to not monkey with things before then and fuck them up as patience is just not in my personal DNA.
That conservatism paired with the fidgeting had me exit half my VIX positions today…it was showing great gains, the index dropped from 32 to 25 in a week and I was levered to that, the direction was right and the probabilities were still strongly in my favor….logically, I should still be all-in…but my DNA, the position size (be conservative!), and the feeling of needing to do something, anything….took some off…..
It’s hard for me, I think I get a glimpse of the feeling someone in AA may experience when walking by a raucous bar lol, just a huge gravitational pull. Best investment advice by far I think one can offer another is to find a lane that works for you and stay in it.
You know what I realized about BRT. He is always on the conspiracy side of science. Dude actually took the position that climate change is good for this planet and our species. Brt, stop going into those forums that are sending you down the rabbit hole.
Like I said, you are a tool and not capable of intelligent conversation
Pumps
How many of Joe Rogans shows have you watched?
Hold,
Most of his shows are fine. My only problem is with covid. Anything on that subject, and he has a personal bias that he claims he doesn’t have in his search for truth.
At the end of the day, it’s this simple. Malone made a lot of people scared to take the vaccine, it cost some people their lives. Could have had a simple jab, but they were too scared becauae of people like Malone who act like an authority but were clearly wrong. How many people took triple jabs? How many were hurt by it? That makes malone a trafficker of misinformation. All the fear mongering he did the past 2 years has been dead wrong. Why in the world would you want to give this guy a platform? How has he earned the right to influence millions of people some more?
“Biden chose Harris as his VP because of the color of her skin and sex—not qualification. She’s been a disaster,” Gabbard wrote on Twitter. “Now he promises to choose Supreme Court nominee on the same criteria. Identity politics is destroying our country.”
Here you go Tulsi. Religion is also a way people “identify” and I guess the as long as you keep quiet, the Rs will pack the court with anti-abortion Catholics. The plan is so obvious to appeal to Jesus nut base.
Antonin Scalia Reagan
Anthony Kennedy Reagan
Clarence Thomas G. H. W. Bush
John Roberts G. W. Bush
Samuel Alito G. W. Bush
Neil Gorsuch Trump
Brett Kavanaugh Trump
Amy Coney Barret Trump
As an aside relative to market….. look at what day of the month it is.
Also, I had pointed out early last week that this instability is right in the middle of earnings season. It is unusual in that sense, because there is such a healthy out of news flow. The market can actually trade off of fundamental issues, instead of macro or else whimsy.
leftwing: 4 fcuking points out of the last 4 games? Heads up there is a rescheduled game at 3PM tomorrow.
chi…i know….harvard and dartmouth (!) no less….it’s likely over no tourney for us…
we simply don’t have the strength of schedule to qualify even if we win out without blowing people out….ehhhh, what can you do
we can back door it by winning the ecac but that’s the only hope…
on markets, yeah good point, end of month likely has some influence…
Georgia looking to eliminate all requirements for childhood vaccines.
Fucking idiots.
On the bright side, now all the anti-vaxers have somewhere to live.
Yeah Georgia, well Raphael Warnock’s Senate Seat is up in Nov, you can bet they are going do their best to win it.
Yeah Georgia, well Raphael Warnock’s Senate Seat is up in Nov, you can bet they are going do their best to win it. Seems the red neck who sponsored the no vaccination required bill it is a former fire chief and Georgia State Senator for over 20 years.
Seize the voting machines..!!!
So, first time I have ever listened to or watched Rogan…
First impression…fuck me, more than one person on here could be him, lol. Content and demeanor. And likely looks. I’m definitely in the wrong business.
Two…I watched the first two and half minutes…kicks in around 1:00 with a few very relevant points starting around 1:25….altogether the guy seems pretty reasonable and presenting issues that ought to, no must, be discussed.
Unless of course you are one of the self-appointed, self-absorbed narcissists presuming to have the unfettered right to control what others may say or think based on your personal opinion.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CZYQ_nDJi6G/?utm_medium=share_sheet
People like to ask what happened to the Republican Party in the wake of Trump. When did liberal values entirely evaporate?
If the Right in the early 60s leaned half as hard on personal expression as the Left is now we’d all still be the Cleavers with everything that ‘culture’ exhibited.
Interesting things I read today.
That moron who ran the Trumpy Gym down in Belmawr thinks he’s going to unseat Kim in Congress.
That girl who was killed at the Burger King drive through planned the robbery with her dad. She was shot by a coworker who tried to save her from her dad who was playing the part of robber. Dude with the bad shot has not been caught yet. He was already on probation for illegal gun charges.
Gotta love this country.
“People like to ask what happened to the Republican Party in the wake of Trump. When did liberal -values entirely evaporate?”
Left, there is a bit of s self own in that statement. One of the issues here that Rogan does not address is that yes, these guys are credentialed, is there a chance they are actually wrong? What points that are being made against them, and are they repudiating them to a sufficient level. I get that Rogan is not a journalist, but in this arena, that is 101.
Because there is no chance that you can be highly qualified and still be proven wrong in your field. https://www.iflscience.com/physics/youtuber-derek-muller-won-a-10000-physics-bet-against-professor/
When did liberal -values entirely evaporate?”
They’ve turned into an unattractive class (literally and figuratively) of angry, resentful muppets resorting to political plundering in an attempt to disguise their streak of unmitigated failures and flawed ideology.
Eddie’s “attracted” to plump orange men who want to lie to him.