What recession?

From the Hill:

Goldman Sachs sees recession odds falling

In a Monday research note, the investment bank put the odds of a recession within 12 months at 25 percent, down from 35 percent earlier this year.

Goldman Sachs economist Jan Hatzius attributed the decline to two major factors: the apparent end of the banking crisis triggered by the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank and the recent bipartisan debt ceiling deal.

Hatzuis also noted that the U.S. economy has cranked out “large numbers of jobs while keeping the unemployment rate very close to its pre-pandemic level” of 3.5 percent.

And while the job market is still strong, Hatzuis said that a slowdown from the torrid pace of hiring earlier in the post-pandmeic recovery may help inflation come down to stable levels.

“Each of our preferred measures of labor market balance has now reversed significantly more than half of its post-pandemic overshoot, but most still have some way to go before they are consistent with 2% inflation,” the research note said.  

The Goldman Sachs note follows a week of unexpectedly strong economic data, including a robust May jobs gain and a surprising jump in consumer spending.

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75 Responses to What recession?

  1. Phoenix says:


  2. Phoenix says:

    Geez Karen

    You really took it to the next level didn’t you?

    White neighbor, 58, accused of fatally shooting single black mom-of-four, 35, in front of her son, 10, by firing through a door after complaining her children were playing outside is arrested for manslaughter

  3. dentss dunnigan says:

    first after 6 am

  4. grim says:

    What’s the odds the EV tax credit back in NJ on July 1?

    Wondering if it’s worth ordering in anticipation and taking delivery after July 1, even though nothing has been formally announced (to get a jump on it).

  5. Phoenix says:

    Can’t you just cancel if the credit isn’t available? Some are buying the older Bolt models and doing this on another forum.

    California it was said is giving so much in credits that you can buy a Tesla for less than a Camry.

  6. 1987 Condo says:

    WSJ article highlights the deforestation of rain forests and use of strip mining in pursuit of nickel required in EV batteries.


    To make batteries for EVs, companies need to mine and refine large amounts of nickel. The process of getting the mineral out of the ground and turning it into battery-ready substances, though, is particularly environmentally unfriendly. Reaching the nickel means cutting down swaths of rainforest. Refining it is a carbon-intensive process that involves extreme heat and high pressure, producing waste slurry that’s hard to dispose of.

  7. Phoenix says:

    “WSJ article highlights the deforestation of rain forests and use of strip mining in pursuit of nickel required in EV batteries.”

    Doesn’t matter. Capitalism stops for no one. If there is profit to be made you can be sure someone will do it no matter what.

    YOLO, move on.

  8. 1987 Condo says:

    Not sure the EV argument was a capitalistic one, lol

  9. Juice Box says:

    California is giving an additional $7,500 EV credit on top of the Federal $7500.

    That now makes a Tesla Model 3 cheaper than a Toyota Camry. Also you don’t have to live in CA just have a business there to get the credit.

    “A standard-range Tesla Model 3 can cost less than half its MSRP in certain California districts. The base rear-wheel-drive Model 3 with 272 miles of EPA-estimated range, and 0-60 miles per hour time of 5.8 seconds, starts at $40,240.

    Factor in California’s two possible tax credits, along with the federal tax credit, and that Tesla Model 3 price can plummet to $19,830 (as of June 5, 2023). Sounds generous, right? Well, first you have to qualify for the following programs.”


  10. Juice Box says:

    Joys of home ownership.

    Upstairs bathroom flooded my laundry room below. Issue with the tub drain. After cleaning up the water I unscrewed the tub drain and changed the plumbers putty as it was about six years since we renovated that bathroom. No Joy still leaking… I picked up a cheap wifi enabled endoscope camera with a light on Amazon. It was delivered early morning (Amazon’s 4 am-8 am delivery service rocks). I fished the endoscope camera through the tub drain opening to take a look. Turns out the plastic tub drain that attaches to the P-Trap worked it way loose. These are attached from the 1″1/2 plastic tub drain to the 2” P-Trap PVC with twist compression fittings that use a gasket as a seal. It’s only hand tightened and it worked it way loose over the last six years perhaps from the PVC not being properly secured.

    I hate working with sheet rock. I cut open the ceiling in my laundry room ceiling and repaired the drain connection. I am going to put in several bands of hanger straps to keep it in place as the PVC was not properly secured had some vertical motion, enough to work it’s way loose.

    I picked up a white access panel door kit 14″ x14″ to put in place in the laundry room ceiling incase I ever need to get at it again. In that room there is another smaller access panel to a water shutoff valve and it is a laundry room so it looks fine along with everything else.

    Running the dehumidifier to dry out the walls and ceilings, will do that for a week. I have to cut out perhaps another section of ceiling that seems too soggy to dry out. So two ceiling drywall patches and then spackle. I hate spackling…. It will probably take me 5 coats with sanding to get it smooth enough for painting.

    I am also going to spray that anti-mold Concrobium in the spaces between as well, just to be sure no mold is growing.

    Fun times…I wonder what will break next?

  11. Grim says:

    NJ has two benefits for EVs – the EV tax credit (on top of the federal), plus the fact that EVs are exempt from sales tax.

    The trifecta is a great deal.

  12. Grim says:

    I think I’m ready to go back after the Fit EV debacle.

    Model 3 Performance, or cross my fingers and hope they release a Model 3 Plaid as a 2024 in the fall.

  13. Fast Eddie says:


    Kudos for your patience and dedication working through that issue! That’s a handful. Well done!

  14. Phoenix says:

    Good to be handy. Expensive to pay professionals for what you did.

    Lease deal for the electric folks:

    2023 Hyundai IONIQ 5 SUV Lease + $7,500 EV Lease Bonus
    IONIQ 5 SE Standard Range $332/ month for 36-Months w/ $5,008 due at lease signing
    IONIQ 5 SE $399/ Month for 36-Months w/ $4,999 due at lease signing
    IONIQ 5 SEL $414/ Month for 36-Months w/ $5,001 due at lease signing
    IONIQ 5 Limited $513/ Month for 36-Months w/ $4,913 due at lease signing.

  15. Phoenix says:

    Comments on the article you posted are interesting.

  16. grim says:

    Counterintuitive thing is replacing bigger sections of sheetrock (or whole) almost always looks better than patching a small area. Workwise, it’s really no different either. You are going to need to paint the entire ceiling anyway. Just rip it now and let it dry out in the open air.

  17. Trick says:

    Grim, those would be over the nj rebate threshold.

  18. Juice Box says:

    Do you really need a 2 second zero to sixty car? Heck never mind Grim does the public need to be driving ten-second cars? Is everyone going to be driving like Dom Toretto and Brian O’Conner on the highway?

    It’s bad enough already, every time I am on the parkway or turnpike there is always a few jokers bobbing and weaving and doing the jersey slide at 100 mph in heavy traffic.

    Since all of these Tesla’s and other EVs etc have cameras and internet connectivity how about adding some AI to identify the reckless drivers and nerf their cars with flashing warnings on the dashboard that the car will pull over for an hour and make them wait if they keep up the dangerous driving?

  19. Juice Box says:

    Grim – re: replacing bigger (whole) sections.

    Not a bad idea, but when sheetrock is hung you drywall the ceiling first, then the walls are put up butted up to the ceiling. So to do it properly I would need to pull out the ceiling without damaging the walls. Nearly impossible to do, the inside corners are pain in the arse.

    The reinstall requires tape and finish am inside drywall corner between the wall and ceiling, and spackle, sand and paint everything including walls.

    What I am doing will be invisible when I am done and allot less work. The access panel is key. It should have been put in the first place, but is not code unlike the shutoff valve.

  20. Hughesrep says:


    Solvent weld (PVC glue) the connection. Don’t depend on gasket connections. Those trap adapters are really only supposed to be outside the wall, like connecting the sink p-trap to the drain line. They don’t like a lot of motion and should be on a horizontal connection. Your tub drain should have some slope, makes a lousy seal.

    Have girls? Similar happened to me once when I jammed one of those drain cleaner things in there trying to fish hair out of the drain. Broke the tub shoe. I also hate drywall, and suck at it. Lots of sanding.

  21. Juice Box says:

    BTW – The engineer and carpenter in me did the math. The tub is centered 18 inches from the wall edge. It spans more than one joist, and sits on 3/4 plywood with a hole cut for the plumbing. To position for the hole cut I used a long metal rod I had to center and push down from the tub drain thru the lower ceiling sheetrock. I also used my endoscope camera to scope out approximate where the the joists were, and used my joist finder to mark them. There were two sets of joists. One for the second floor and one from the drop ceiling which contains the plumbing and HVAC. It is 2 feet deep space. The drain connection to the P-Trap itself is 7″ from drain hole and 18″ from the either edge of the Tub. So I had a perfectly centered hole to work from and made my cuts. I cut a large 14 x 14″ hole with my Dremel, so I could reach up and fix the P-Trap connection it is about a foot higher than the ceiling.

    I am still considering changing this drain and connection since I will always have access. Pic below, I took with my endoscope, you can see the sloppy plumbing work….


  22. Hughesrep says:

    That should be solid p-trap, glue type, not gasket / compression connections. An inspector should have flagged that.

  23. Juice Box says:

    Hughes – I agree the p-trap looks sketchy, but I think solid/glued is only required for toilet waste lines etc. Sinks and tubs can be screw on compression connections.

    I will change the whole tub drain while I am at it. It is Jacuzzi brand, as it is an air bubble tub but drain plastic looks and feels cheap. I will change the whole drain to 17 gauge brass etc and use a neoprene shielded 1 1/2 to 2 inch coupling to a new solid P-Trap. There would be no issue snaking after that…if ever needed.

    Again the joy never ends…

  24. Juice Box says:

    Snakes! Anyway here is a funny snaking story….

    Who does not own a snake that attaches to a drill? Ever try to snake a food clog in a drain? My kitchen sink clogged.. It has a InSinkErator Garbage Disposal. If you don’t run water long enough after grinding it will just clog up the pipe over time. New faucets are set to 1 gallon per minute. Not really enough water if you are flushing ground up food to the main drain. My wife never runs the water long enough, so last summer while family was visiting the sink clogged. Holiday weekend no plumber to be found (all busy) and last one we used was like $450. The sink run is about 35 ft to the main so my snake wont reach the clog. I tried a few times..no joy. I decided to use the bladder method with the hose to see if I could blast through with water pressure. All that did was pack in the clog more and the water pressure actually came up through the drains to the sinks and tubs and actually up air vent to the roof Lol! Water Water everywhere… I ended up going to home depot and renting an automatic 50 ft drain snake, and unclogged it from the basement utility room. By the time I was done there was bucket worth of rotting food draining on to my basement floor in the utility room, what a stinky dirty mess to clean up….

    Anytime anyone uses my garbage disposal we run the water for five minutes to make sure it flushes to the main. We try to not use the disposal much anymore…I still won’t take it out just like the on demand hot water we never use either. Joys of modern living and home ownership..

  25. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The employees of the Farmers Group insurance company were settled into lives of remote work. Some moved to new cities, sold their cars, or built workspaces at home. So when new chief executive Raul Vargas said most of the company’s 22,000 workers would have to start coming back to the office, employees were outraged, Peter Grant reports. Staff members posted more than 2,000 comments on an internal company message board, most of them expressing discontent or feelings of betrayal. Conflict between employers and workers over return-to-office policies is ramping up this year, as more companies phase out pandemic work arrangements.

    Landlords will rejoice at news of large companies recommitting to office space. Many face looming deadlines to pay off their interest-only property loans. As office and other property values decline due to higher interest rates and lower occupancy, the risk that many landlords default on these large loans is rising, Konrad Putzier reports. As much as 83% of outstanding securitized office loans won’t be able to refinance if interest rates stay at current levels, according to estimates from a CoStar analyst.

    Lastly this week, the biggest apartment landlords in America face a threat that many investors had bet would not happen: competition from too many other new apartment buildings. More than 950,000 new apartment units are under construction this year, the most in many decades, Will Parker reports. Analysts expect the surge in supply will slow down rent growth, especially in Sunbelt cities that are seeing the most building activity.

  26. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This smoke is horrible…

  27. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What are we living in southern cal now? No rain ever….70-80 degrees and now smoke.

  28. Phoenix says:


    “I picked up a white access panel door kit 14″ x14″ to put in place in the laundry room ceiling”

    I agree with what you did. It’s in a laundry room. You have access now.

    Wanna sheetrock it, do it before you sell if you feel like.

    I never liked colonials, would rather always have a large ranch. For this and many other reasons, like not having a w/d leak on the second floor.

  29. Grim says:

    Tesla model 3 performance is eligible for the $2000 tax credit in NJ (when funds are available).

  30. Phoenix says:

    Does Florida Have Tax Credits For Buying New EVs?

    The state of Florida does not offer tax credits for the purchase of a new EV, but some Florida residents may be eligible for programs through their local utility company. Currently, the Kissimmee Utility Authority offers a rebate of $100 to customers for the purchase of a new EV, and the Orlando Utilities Commission offers a rebate of $200 to customers who purchase or lease an eligible EV.

  31. Phoenix says:

    Does Florida Have Tax Credits For Buying Used EVs?

    Florida does not have a statewide program for tax credits for buying used EVs, but customers of the Orlando Utilities Commission may be eligible for a $200 rebate for the purchase or lease of a used EV.

  32. Phoenix says:

    Damn Liberal states just giving money away.

    No freebies in Florida.

  33. The Great Pumpkin says:

    But in the case of EVs, Chinese industrial policy had a couple of things going for it. First, governments around the world saw climate change as an enduring threat that would require decadelong interventions to transition away from fossil fuels. China bet correctly that in transportation, the transition would favor electric vehicles.

    In 2009, China started handing out generous subsidies to buyers of EVs. Public procurement of taxis and buses was targeted to electric vehicles, rechargers were subsidized, and provincial governments stumped up capital for lithium mining and refining for EV batteries. In 2020 NIO, at the time an aspiring challenger to Tesla, avoided bankruptcy thanks to a government-led bailout.

    While industrial policy guaranteed a demand for EVs, protectionism ensured those EVs would be made in China, by Chinese companies. To qualify for subsidies, cars had to be domestically made, although foreign brands did qualify. They also had to have batteries made by Chinese companies, giving Chinese national champions like Contemporary Amperex Technology and BYD an advantage over then-market leaders from Japan and South Korea.

    To sell in China, foreign automakers had to abide by conditions intended to upgrade the local industry’s skills. State-owned Guangzhou Automobile Group developed the manufacturing know-how necessary to become a player in EVs thanks to joint ventures with Toyota and Honda, said Gregor Sebastian, an analyst at Germany’s Mercator Institute for China Studies.

    Despite all that government support, sales of EVs remained weak until 2019, when China let Tesla open a wholly owned factory in Shanghai. “It took this catalyst…to boost interest and increase the level of competitiveness of the local Chinese makers,” said Tu Le, managing director of Sino Auto Insights, a research service specializing in the Chinese auto industry.

    Back in 2011 Pony Ma, the founder of Tencent, explained what set Chinese capitalism apart from its American counterpart. “In America, when you bring an idea to market you usually have several months before competition pops up, allowing you to capture significant market share,” he said, according to Fast Company, a technology magazine. “In China, you can have hundreds of competitors within the first hours of going live. Ideas are not important in China—execution is.”

    Thanks to that competition and focus on execution, the EV industry went from a niche industrial-policy project to a sprawling ecosystem of predominantly private companies. Much of this happened below the Western radar while China was cut off from the world because of Covid-19 restrictions.

    When Western auto executives flew in for April’s Shanghai auto show, “they saw a sea of green plates, a sea of Chinese brands,” said Le, referring to the green license plates assigned to clean-energy vehicles in China. “They hear the sounds of the door closing, sit inside and look at the quality of the materials, the fabric or the plastic on the console, that’s the other holy s— moment—they’ve caught up to us.”


  34. Phoenix says:

    Times perfectly with all of the new immigrants. Drink up, boys.

    Modelo Especial dethrones Bud Light as America’s NUMBER ONE selling beer after 22 years

  35. Phoenix says:

    Didn’t you just say this about your Polestar test drive?

    “They hear the sounds of the door closing, sit inside and look at the quality of the materials, the fabric or the plastic on the console, that’s the other holy s— moment—they’ve caught up to us.”

  36. ExEx says:

    Modelo is actually a good beer.

    Bud Lite … not so much. Waaaaamp waaaaaamp

    Let the market decide. Zero Fucks.

  37. ExEx says:

    11:42 yeah that smoke is horrible. I’ve seen a couple of major fires come through my backyard over the past few years. It’s like watching a nuclear detonation in slow motion.
    The smoke erases almost all clean air initiatives instantly. Sets the environment bsck years.

  38. Trick says:

    The buy now is the in-stock model 3 rear no options, 38k minus 7.5k fed.
    The parking lot at the fireplace in Paramus was loaded with them. Need to clear them out before the new version is released.
    Volvo just showed of there 35k ex30 but will not be out until next year.

  39. leftwing says:

    “WSJ article highlights the deforestation of rain forests and use of strip mining in pursuit of nickel required in EV batteries….Doesn’t matter. Capitalism stops for no one.”

    Capitalism? Capitalism?! LOL.

    Modern liberal orthodoxy stops for no fact or logic….

    Make everything electric to save the planet while strip mining and ploughing under rain forests? No problem, as long as I can virtue signal my EV.

    Purchase products from a company manufacturing in and supporting a regime that imprisons and forces labor on minorities to make those products? No sweat, my woke company is so cool and its CEO is gay and the first one to come out.

    Guess Minorities Lives do Matter to modern liberals, providing they’re the ‘right’ minorities….

  40. leftwing says:

    Model S is nice….

  41. Boomer Remover says:

    It’s a bit depressing to think that these large wildfires and attendant air quality issues could become a regular thing. My daughter is especially concerned about the fires and changes in sky color and the “itchy air”.

    I had a guy ask me if there was a blood moon at 5:30 PM at softball practice. His jaw dropped when I told him he’s looking directly at the sun (it was dark and relatively weak at that point).

  42. Juice Box says:

    Smoke just hit us down here by the Jersey shore, it is nearly as bad as I have seen it in California, and I was only a few mile away from it in Napa. The smell is pretty strong too.

    Google has a map for it., some Hazardous reading in North Jersey by Paramus.


  43. Phoenix says:


    A/B just wants to sell beer- they thought rainbows would buy it. Capitalism.

    Target-Just wants to sell clothes, they thought rainbows would buy it.

    Sometimes you get it wrong with your audience. Oopsy.

    EVs- Sell it as a liberal talking point so you get them on board, but at the end of the day I know more conservatives driving them because, just like the company, they pocket every nickel. One just does it for the money, the other does it for the money first and the “environment” to not look as greedy as the other.

    Money talks.

  44. Phoenix says:

    A little fire.

    Just imagine what a couple of nukes would do.

  45. leftwing says:

    Lol, pretty sure your hard core capitalists and conservatives could give a flying fuck whether they drove an EV or not…they’ll take the high end of whatever is offered.

    The nutcases looking to make everything electric without understanding the immediate consequences and downstream effects? Other side of the political spectrum.

  46. Juice Box says:

    Lithium iron phosphate batteries are now in a majority of the Teslas made today. They are phasing out the Cobalt and Nickel batteries except for the extended range vehicles etc. It is the nickel based batteries that catch fire too as lithium iron phosphate batteries will not burn when exposed to fire.

    Ford, Rivian, and Volkswagen and Chevy are planning on using lithium iron phosphate batteries in the USA and there are many companies building plants and ramping up production here in the to take advantage of the tax incentives and green energy grants being given etc.

    There are dozens of other competing battery technologies being tested now too from ceramic ones using Oxygen-ion to Zinc-Ion it all about energy density and weight.. Perhaps one will be the real deal. cheap, lightweight and can be recharged many thousands of times.

  47. Juice Box says:

    Smoke smell is very strong outside now. Air reading in Bayonne just hit Hazardous · 460 AQI.


    I have my fan running and MERV 13 filters, so no real smoke smell in the house so far.. The filters seem to be doing the job but will now need to be changed sooner than later.

  48. Grim says:

    I just drove up from Philly – there are sections of the turnpike that were incredibly bad – I’m talking seriously reduced visibility – half mile maybe, maybe less.

  49. Fast Eddie says:

    Just imagine what a couple of nukes would do.

    It’ll do nothing to affect house prices in Northern Jersey.

  50. Fast Eddie says:

    So, we’re exfoliating the planet to produce batteries to… battle climate change? I guess once we look like the surface of the moon, we will have achieved our goal?

  51. Libturd says:

    “No problem, as long as I can virtue signal my EV.”

    This has always been my position. When 60% of our electricity is derived from non-renewables, you are only virtue signaling to other fools. And then there’s the range envy, and how long it takes to refill your battery. Dig deeper and you see dirty, dirty heavy metal mining operations where child labor is still being exploited to this day.

    Then there are the subsidies necessary for most people to even consider purchasing one of these heavy polluters. Worse yet, besides these subsidies, hundreds of thousands and perhaps more people are taking huge amounts of government dollars to set up “green” companies that do little more than pay a salary to the former political contributor (and their partner and likely, to their partner’s dog).

    I am in the market for purchasing a $65,000 vehicle. I would only consider a PHEV at this point and they are all nearly impossible to purchase to their insatiable demand, which has driven prices up to stupidville regardless of their shitty range.

    I’ve given up on the Telluride. I just can’t convince myself to purchase a Kia or a Hyundai. I did some digging and I read that although their bodies and tech are really well done, their engines are still garbage and use inferior metals. Look around, see any old Hyundai’s or Kia’s on the road? Nope. Can’t do it. Leaning on the Mazda CX-90 and why the hell not? I’ve got 280K worth of Mazda mileage in my driveway, still without incident.

    Might even spring for the super powered Straight 6 Turbo.

  52. ExEx says:

    Capt. Cheato save your money and buy certified used.

  53. BRT says:

    lol, I stopped in Somerville to get some Empanadas. Everyone on Division Street was wearing masks and acting strange like it was April 2020 again. Refusing to make eye contact and avoiding you to keep 6ft as you walk by. It’s like they got rebooted or something.

  54. Boomer Remover says:

    I got the full $7.5K of at point of sale, and NJ sent me another check for $5,000. The NJ EV grants were $5K until demand outstripped supply to such an extent that a decision was made to award to more people but at half rate.

    Once the smoke cleared, I had a $147 per month sign and drive on a $35K car. Total out of pocket $5,295 over life of three year lease, or 15.12% of the sticker. No sales tax on payments or purchase either.

    Lib, not a reliable indicator, but IMO you don’t see Hyundai’s around because their ascension to the top of CRs’ reliability ratings is relatively recent phenomenon.

  55. Libturd says:


    But CR’s rating is generally first three years (initial reliability), which has improved, as I’ve heard from some owners first-hand. I do have a lot of faith in CRs research. When they said Nissan started sucking, they really did start sucking. Gator’s Altima was a POS as was our Xterra for the most part. I guess, I just don’t want to be the guinea pig. I am guessing Hyundai/Kia have improved their interior enough that the the interior problems have gone away (cheap switches, motors and poorly programmed tech interface) which were a large part of their initial reliability failures). I don’t have faith in their engines. :P

    We’ll have to see. Maybe when I replace my CX-90 in another 15 years or so. As always, appreciate the advice.

  56. Juice Box says:

    Re: Straight 6 Turbo

    Lib is that your gender identifier?

  57. exEx says:

    Looks like good ol’ Mark Meadows is pleading guilty to receive limited immunity to testify against the orange imbecile. Hahahahahhaha

  58. Boomer Remover says:

    This was shot on Rt. 80 around 1PM today. If anything looked even darker than how it was captured.


  59. Slightly Curved 6 Turbo says:

    “Lib is that your gender identifier?”

  60. Libturd says:


    You captured the tail of one of the infamous Route 80 sperm walls.

  61. Old realtor says:

    You really buy all the stereotypes. Just as there isn’t one type of conservative, there isn’t one type of liberal. You are the one who is always crying when someone tries to pigeonhole you. Perhaps you should stop doing the same to others.

  62. Phoenix says:

    Lol, pretty sure your hard core capitalists and conservatives could give a flying fuck whether they drove an EV or not…they’ll take the high end of whatever is offered.

    Hard core?
    Guess it depends on exactly what that means.

    For the run of the mill ones, it’s simple greed that runs them just like the dems.

    They have no problem sticking their necks in the Government money trough grabbing tax breaks, pensions, govt run health care.

    Not saying it’s wrong, just pointing out many are just as Janus faced as the ones they complain about.

  63. Phoenix says:

    My vote for post of the day.

    BRT says:
    June 7, 2023 at 4:11 pm
    lol, I stopped in Somerville to get some Empanadas. Everyone on Division Street was wearing masks and acting strange like it was April 2020 again. Refusing to make eye contact and avoiding you to keep 6ft as you walk by. It’s like they got rebooted or something.

  64. Juice Box says:

    Just drove over the Navesink river from Red Bank, cannot see across the water it’s 1/2 mile across so maybe 1/4 mile visibility around here now. Whole Foods was packed with people wearing masks again.

    When does the run on toilet paper start or did I miss that window of opportunity?

  65. BRTisTheOriginalToxi says:


    I think BRT is Melvin, he just does not know he became Toxie https://youtu.be/sKeONEIskWI

    BTW – I like EV because of tech and except Norway all of the main oil producing countries suffer from the oil curse (aka -kleptocracies). And frankly the main oil producing states in this country (TX) seem to be incorrigible a**hol*s and general nuisance to any decent human being.

  66. Phoenix says:


    Here is your car. Only 24k miles. Comes complete with pedigree papers and the aroma of Grey Poupon. This vehicle has lived a life of luxury where even the roach coaches have pedigree.


  67. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Wow @ India. Smh

    “New York City is currently second only to Delhi, India for the worst air quality and pollution out of 100 tracked countries, according to Swiss air quality technology company IQAir.”

  68. Phoenix says:

    Americans and their drama. Anywhere else in the world people get over it without crying. Go to Target and, down the aisle from the rainbow clothing you can get yourself a binky and a baby blanket. Or maybe take your AR-15 and shoot the smoke particles out of the sky. Or go to your local CBD/Xanax/Distillery and get yourself some comfort medicine.

    It’s for a couple of days, get over it already.

    Are your sensitive lung (ies) going to handle some smoke for a few days- or are you really going to rush for milk, water and toilet paper again?

    If America can’t manufacture big boy pants maybe you can get the Chinese to make them for you.

  69. crushednjmillenial says:

    Davis Polk and Wardwell mandates 4 days per week in-office. Pumpkin rejoices.

  70. ExEx says:

    8:24 China’s exports are down for the first time in a while.
    Seems the World’s biggest market is tapering imports of Chinese stuff.

  71. The Great Pumpkin says:

    When they said suburbs were dead, I disagreed. The same position with WFH/Cities dead. It’s only a natural cycle of price discovery. Those that understand this, take advantage of the pricing.

    Don’t touch class B CRE unless you have balls of steel, but take advantage of class a discounts.

    crushednjmillenial says:
    June 7, 2023 at 9:06 pm
    Davis Polk and Wardwell mandates 4 days per week in-office. Pumpkin rejoices.

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