Lazy millennials already gave up

From Redfin:

Redfin Survey: 1 in 5 Millennial Respondents Believe They’ll Never Own a Home

Nearly one of every five (18%) millennials and 12% of Gen Zers who replied to a recent housing survey believe they will never own a home. 

That’s according to a Redfin-commissioned survey conducted by Qualtrics in May and June 2023. The survey was fielded to 5,079 U.S. residents who either moved in the last year, plan to move in the next year, or rent their home. This report focuses on the 1,340 Gen Z (aged 18 to 26) and 1,973 millennial (aged 27 to 42) respondents. The stat above is based on the following question: Do you believe that you will ever own your own home in the future? Respondents could choose “yes” or “no.”

Lack of affordability is the number-one barrier to homeownership for young Americans. Roughly half of Gen Z and millennial renters who believe they’re unlikely to purchase a home in the near future say the high price of homes on the market is blocking them from buying. That’s the most commonly cited barrier, and it’s followed by several other affordability-related reasons. 

Nearly half (46%) of millennials and one-third (33%) of Gen Zers say their lack of ability to save for a down payment is a barrier, and more than one-third of both Gen Zers and millennials say mortgage rates are too high. Roughly one-third also say they’re unable to afford monthly mortgage payments. About one in five (21%) Gen Zers and 16% of millennials say they need to pay off their student loan debt before they’re able to buy a home.

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111 Responses to Lazy millennials already gave up

  1. Fabius Maximus says:

    Friskies

  2. Fast Eddie says:

    Baa Baa Booooya!

  3. Fast Eddie says:

    I feel for the younger crowd because the prices are insane and there’s nothing to buy. The interest rate is not so much the issue; it’s the outlandish prices for four walls and a roof with a 1972 interior. I do not see any buyer leverage for a looong time. I never thought I’d endorse renting over buying but this market is sick at the moment so, all you can do is build up your financial stockpile and see what happens.

  4. 3b says:

    Fast: I am surprised there is not a lot more anger.

  5. Old realtor says:

    I am back to bidding at sheriff sales in multiple northern NJ counties. Have not bought anything in recent months. Winning bidders are often bidding as high as my retail “as is” value for the property. Eventually conditions will change. They always do.

  6. Juice Box says:

    Great just Great WWIII is trending

  7. Hughesrep says:

    So is Captain Kangaroo.

  8. Libturd says:

    FAB,

    Saw your post on the CX-9 last night. Congrats. Just make sure you do all of the routine maintenance on it. I know two people who did the repair it as it breaks method and both had to get theirs towed to salvage around 100K.

    As I dropped our CX-9 off with my kid at UF, we finally had our first round of repairs. Before this, nothing but what the manual said. $3K later, we had new struts/mounts tie rods and ends, fronts and backs (shocks). The mechanic said it was all the road salt and that he only has to repair all of those things on cars from the Northeast, but mainly NJ and Mass. Car has over 140K now and my son says it’s running like she is brand new. Finally, the AC on that car is fantastic. It’s a 2012 and it blows cold air like a blizzard. Have to keep it on low or you’ll freeze.

  9. Libturd says:

    How about Captain Caveman? Uhnga Buhnga!

  10. SmallGovConservative says:

    OC1 says:
    September 8, 2023 at 12:00 am
    “…appeasing a dictator hellbent on territorial expansion doesn’t end well.”

    While the disastrous Biden/Harris admin may not be guilty of appeasement, the equally disastrous Obama/Biden admin most certainly is. And the current crew is guilty of something worse — enticement. It’s no coincidence that the “dictator hellbent on territorial expansion” has only moved against Ukraine while the US/west has been led by weak, feckless Dems; and it’s also no coincidence that he moved even more aggressively after SlowJoe’s bumbling, disgraceful retreat from Afghanistan, and after Joe hamstrung energy production in the US and ceded oil pricing power back to OPEC+ (Vlad literally may not have been able to afford the Ukraine invasion without the oil windfall that Joe handed to him).

  11. Fast Eddie says:

    3b,

    I was angry when shopping at the last peak around 2008. Nobody cared then and nobody will care today. Show me the money and you know the rest. Tears won’t get you a German import and a house in Ho Ho Kus. I suppose if you’re a gorgeous specimen of human, that might help. Otherwise, it’s every muppet for themselves. You know my deal; gag-inducing hovels demanding top dollar with a Pall Mall and Rheingold aroma, moldy bathrooms, waves in kitchen floors, house staging that was performed by hoarders, demands to feed squirrels and on and on. Grab some popcorn and let’s see how this plays out. Remember, we’re exempt here in the land where unicorns roam… maybe until a meteor strikes somewhere between Ridgewood and Rockleigh.

  12. grim says:

    Ohhh Ridgewood.

    It’s like Gatsby’s green light.

  13. OC1 says:

    “…and after Joe hamstrung energy production in the US and ceded oil pricing power back to OPEC+”

    US oil production under Biden is higher than it’s ever been- 2023 is on track to be the biggest oil producing year in US history.

  14. Fast Eddie says:

    Of all the head-shaking moments I’ve seen from the 837 houses I toured, the one that gave me the most laughter was the paint job over the 75 year old wall paper. Years ago it was called Sanitas exclusively. The Sanitas was curling up and down at each strip and it was sad to see. It was obvious Mom and Dad were gone and the kids were looking to cash out with no thought or effort at all. I was thinking they should just burn the fucking joint to the ground just because they were trying to slather layers of lipstick on the pig.

  15. Fast Eddie says:

    US oil production under Biden is higher than it’s ever been- 2023 is on track to be the biggest oil producing year in US history.

    Then why did he go to Saudi Arabia begging on hands and knees for more oil?

  16. SmallGovConservative says:

    OC1 says:
    September 8, 2023 at 9:36 am
    “US oil production under Biden…”

    Biden on campaign trail – “I guarantee you. I guarantee you. We’re going to end fossil fuel.”
    Biden first day in office – ‘Keystone pipeline officially canceled after Biden revokes key permit’

    Oil price Oct 30 2020 – $35
    Oil price Feb 18 2022 – $90 (week of invasion)

  17. Juice Box says:

    I finally got dear old mom to agree to laundry service once a week, so no more basement stairs, she would not agree to allow a stair lift as she is afraid she would fall out and well down the stairs. The nice owner of the laundromat personally picks up and drops off same-day service once a week for senior citizens. First run this week was flawless and the clothes and sheets all came back nicely clean and folded to her liking.

    I also ordered a 10 ft aluminum ramp with railings for her front stoop. It will be delivered today and I will go assemble it. No permit is needed as it’s “temporary”. The stoop is 16 inches high, so a 10 ft ramp will produce a nice easy decline to the walkway. There is also a 5″ step-up to the door jamb. I purchased a 2 ft smaller ramp for that step, it’s adjustable and should fit right under the screen door. Fun times getting old…

  18. Libturd says:

    The president does not control the price of oil unless he starts a war. By enlarge, oil prices are determined by the strength of the global economy which determines demand. We are not the Middle East. We do not have vast reservoirs of sweet crude. We have a little we can pump to help offset our foreign dependance and we can frack for NG. But, the world doesn’t need our potential LNG like it needs that sweet, sweet crude.

    Biden has done some pretty interesting things including the latest idea, the medicaid/care drug negotiations with the producers. THIS may be worth debating. Not the price of oil. But you won’t hear of any thing potentially good that he’s done on Fox News, much like MSNBC spends 24-hours a day roasting Trump.

    Turn off those news sources and find a central news source. I love Tangle. Heck, I used to love Al Jazeera. Even PBS can be balanced at times. But there aren’t any major for-profit sources out there as you can’t turn a profit sharing positive news. Especially if you don’t focus on feeding the echo chamber that birds of a feather prefer.

    We are all herd animals. Moo. Baa. Quack.

  19. Fast Eddie says:

    Apple stock taking a hit. You can only run the horse so much for so long before it sputters. Making the same iShit over and over while charging a fortune is going to raise questions from the cult followers. I’ve said it over and over; take anyone on this blog, put them in the CEO seat for Apple, do absolutely nothing and you’ll have the same sales and stock price as you see currently.

  20. Juice Box says:

    It’s controversial oil that is for sure but there is no replacement for it, we are back near peak production again 12.8 million barrels a day.

    Venezuela has the largest reserves, but produces nothing something like 73 thousand barrels per day. We should be down there promoting freedom and democracy, along with the rest of the Central and South American countries so millions of their citizens don’t want to or need to risk their lives coming here every year. Unfortunately Beijing and Caracas and now working together. We may miss any chance down there if there ever was one.

  21. Fast Eddie says:

    $1,009,000 ask price, 22K in taxes. This one sold for 325K in 1995. Put 200K down and it’s yours for $7,100 per month. Let it ride baby:

    https://www.trulia.com/p/nj/ridgewood/183-mckinley-pl-ridgewood-nj-07450–2006512962

  22. Juice Box says:

    add a zero 700,000 barrels per day not 73,ooo

  23. 3b says:

    Juice: It’s a beautiful cape, with the little houses on top, and it’s Ridgewood. It’s probably worth another 20k since it closed.

  24. 3b says:

    Juice: Glad your Mom agreed to the laundry service, and is happy with the first run. You know how those old Irish ladies can be! And the ramp will make a big difference as well. It’s tough to see them get old.

  25. Bystander says:

    Lib,

    You are not dealing with a rational person. He thinks Richard Gere is still sexy and CTE is a liberal conspiracy. Strike 3? Humorless

    Juice,

    That is insane. It sold for 784K only 8 months ago then they tried to flip for almost 50% more in April. Someone paid 930k? Did they do a damn thing to it? The world continues to go mad. We don’t need a decline..we need a collapse. It feels like a slow motion train wreck.

  26. ExEx says:

    All the GOP can do is lie and misinform.
    Literally the last gasp of a dying party.

  27. Fast Eddie says:

    It’s probably worth another 20k since it closed.

    They should flip it. Best and final by 5:00 PM. That last sentence is hardcoded into every listing in the NJ/NY/CT area.

  28. Fast Eddie says:

    Juice,

    That house was sold this past January for 784K. The sellers made $146,000 in 6 months for doing nothing. Brilliant move. Let it ride!!

  29. Libturd says:

    The GOP was fine when they were neocons. Trump started all of this Bannon-based populist crap and killed the old party. Now it’s all lies all of the time. But they sure sound good! Uh-huh. Like giving negative nicknames to every opponent. Uh-huh. That’s funny. Those snowflakes are cringing. Uh-huh. Hey Bessy, go get the camera. Bob made another liberal cry. Uh-huh. I bet they would piss on our flag if you sent them one. Lord knows that don’t own one. Communists! Uh-huh.

  30. Fabius Maximus says:

    Lib,

    I looked up the maintenance schedule and they say oil every 7500 miles. For me that’s too long, I do every 5K, full synthetic. Here is a fun engine strip down video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJhFAwFv-O0

    I have a Private inspection scheduled for today. Great guy that I’ve used before, will go to the dealership today to go over the car, road test it and generate a full report with pictures. So he can look for suspension and engine issues I would more likely miss. He’ll also jack it up and look for play in the suspension.

    $130 well spent for peace of mind.

  31. Fabius Maximus says:

    Lib,

    The downfall of the GOP was back when John (Bonehead) Boehner, failed to cut the Tea Party off at the knees.

  32. BananaJoe says:

    Oh yeah. Everything the left said is true. They cut the deficit. The border is closed.

    They also cozied up too and act as the mouthpiece for one of the phones and fraudulent people in human history – Tony Fauci. They’ve made him an idol. Remember, if you get the shot, you won’t get covid.

  33. Bystander says:

    Trump appointed Fauci, BananBrain. He was his fan until Fauci said that admin could have responded quicker. He got thrown overboard and the cult branded him a liberal and since pinned him as D operative. It is what you do. I love the Jordan Klepper when he visits Trump rally in MS. He shows Barr and Ivanka saying Trump’s election fraud scheme was quote “bullsh&t”. They immediately say that Barr turned on him, paid by Ds and that Ivanka was a D clone. They were not joking either. Your party is insane.

  34. Phoenix says:

    Trump isn’t so clean on SA either is he?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.html

    Fast Eddie says:
    September 8, 2023 at 9:48 am
    US oil production under Biden is higher than it’s ever been- 2023 is on track to be the biggest oil producing year in US history.

    Then why did he go to Saudi Arabia begging on hands and knees for more oil?

  35. ExEx says:

    12:25 insane and stupid. Vaccines have been very helpful in eradicating terrible diseases of all kinds. Note the rates of Covid death and extended hospitalizations in Republican states. Whatever, it’s just science.

  36. Libturd says:

    Science is bullshit. Uh-huh.

  37. Libturd says:

    Those patriotic tea partiers were fine when they were a small faction of the party. The problem occurred when Trump turned the average rational Republican voter into a tea partier. There are a lot of things wrong with both parties. Probably more wrong than right. But I don’t think it’s quite time for a coup.

  38. Phoenix says:

    America’s politicians are all bought and paid for. Where did Kushner put all of that Saudi money?

    That family is all about NJ real estate, isn’t it?

    You talk about Hackensack condos, maybe those are all Saudi owned buildings? Who knows?

    Private hedge funds are just that, private.

    Only thing I am sure about is most, if not all, politicians are bought and paid for.

    Trump, Biden, Good cop, bad cop. In the end they are both sucking the average American dry.

  39. Hughesrep says:

    Fabs

    I’d argue that is was when Rove and Bush the Lesser sold themselves out to the Ken Reed and Grover Norquist. Once the religious nuts and the trickle on zealots got together it was Idioacracy all the way down.

  40. BananaJoe says:

    I was a fan of vaccines until covid. Forced to take an experimental vaccine with no benefit except profiteering for the insiders.

    It opened a lot of other people’s eyes as well. Fauci and Biden did lasting damage to vaccine campaigns. The participation will not recover in our lifetimes.

    And yes, much of the covid “science” was bullshlt. They continuously changed the justification to match the politics. Look at both masks and lockdowns.

  41. BananaJoe says:

    Fauci is a duplicitous pos. He’sa civil servant not appointed so he can behind all of the legal protections.

  42. Juice Box says:

    I gather Mayor Eric Adams little speech about how the immigrants are now destroying NYC has rattled some cages down in Washington.

    Instead of “Remain in Mexico” it’s going to be “Detained in Texas”. Ankle bracelets for everyone until they get to see a judge or the 2024 election passes whatever comes first.

    Question do they make them in toddler sizes?

    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-administration-considers-forcing-migrant-200551958.html

  43. Phoenix says:

    Although many of their reasons were wrong, as many of their reasons were right.

    I don’t believe the election was “stolen” from Trump like they do. But they have plenty of other reasons to be angry.

    You know, it’s alright to be angry if the reasons for your anger are valid.

    I don’t support a coup either, but some really massive demonstrations are in order.

    Unfortunately the country is too divided, 420 friendly, obsessed with silly videos, and too self centered to actually mobilize to do anything other than eat together.

    Edward Bernays had Americans figured out years ago. AI will amplify that. Sheep to slaughter.

    Libturd says:
    September 8, 2023 at 12:34 pm
    Those patriotic tea partiers were fine when they were a small faction of the party. The problem occurred when Trump turned the average rational Republican voter into a tea partier. There are a lot of things wrong with both parties. Probably more wrong than right. But I don’t think it’s quite time for a coup.

  44. Juice Box says:

    Fauci lied about gain of function. There was one brave Rutgers professor who was calling him out early on it.

    BTW they recently canceled the bat virus spelunking program known as DEEP VZN.

    https://twitter.com/r_h_ebright?lang=en

  45. ExEx says:

    The IRS announced on Friday it is launching an effort to aggressively pursue 1,600 millionaires and 75 large business partnerships that owe hundreds of millions of dollars in past due taxes.

    IRS Commissioner Daniel Werfel said that with a boost in federal funding and the help of artificial intelligence tools, the agency has new means of targeting wealthy people who have “cut corners” on their taxes.

    “If you pay your taxes on time it should be particularly frustrating when you see that wealthy filers are not,” Werfel told reporters in a call previewing the announcement.

    He said 1,600 millionaires who owe at least $250,000 each in back taxes and 75 large business partnerships that have assets of roughly $10 billion on average are targeted for the new “compliance efforts.”

  46. Bystander says:

    Like these hands and knees? Summer 2018..

    Trump urges OPEC to drive down oil prices

    Crude oil prices have been rising over the past year as a result of OPEC’s strategy to tighten supply. Prices hit a two-month high Wednesday as Brent crude, the world’s most closely followed gauge, rose above $79 a barrel.

  47. Phoenix says:

    So, are you not taking vaccines any more? Okay, your choice. But depending on what you want to do, don’t be surprised if your “freedom” becomes limited, as America is a place of law and order. You must be orderly.

    profiteering for the insiders? Sure, never let a crisis go to waste. I guess you could say the masses flipping homes today are “profiteers” as well, taking advantage of the housing situation.

    Americans are a greedy bunch by nature. Look at the guy in Texas, sold hundreds of thousands of acres to China. Who cares, he made money.

    Isn’t making money the whole concept of being an American? It’s smart when you rip someone else off, you are a hero when you are loaded with cash, cause the real heroes- your homeless veterans are treated like shite here in America.

    BananaJoe says:
    September 8, 2023 at 12:42 pm
    I was a fan of vaccines until covid. Forced to take an experimental vaccine with no benefit except profiteering for the insiders.

    It opened a lot of other people’s eyes as well. Fauci and Biden did lasting damage to vaccine campaigns. The participation will not recover in our lifetimes.

    And yes, much of the covid “science” was bullshlt. They continuously changed the justification to match the politics. Look at both masks and lockdowns.

  48. Very Stable Genius says:

    BREAKING

    Trump adviser Peter Navarro is now a convicted criminal

    So is Weisselberg
    So is Roger Stone
    So is Manafort
    So is Mike Flynn
    So is Papadopoulos
    So is Rick Gates
    So is FBI agent McGonigal who worked for Russia
    Bannon was convicted twice
    Trump hires only the best people!

  49. Phoenix says:

    I’d imagine when I am 67, sick, and can’t pay my child support the po po will come with more fervor after me than the IRS will after a effing millionaire.

    I expect to be shot while sitting in my wheelchair.

    ExEx says:
    September 8, 2023 at 12:56 pm
    The IRS announced on Friday it is launching an effort to aggressively pursue 1,600 millionaires and 75 large business partnerships that owe hundreds of millions of dollars in past due taxes.

  50. BananaJoe says:

    That’s a banana republic. Using the criminal justice system to persecuted political opponents. We are there.

  51. Bystander says:

    Banana,

    But it was Operation Warped Brain that delivered “Trump’s” vaccine. Which is it? You guys can’t keep stories straight. Another Kleeper beauty from cult, he asks them “who is president?” and they claim Biden is illegitimate, Trump is still in charge, commanding the military behind the scenes. Klepper says “oh, so Trump is to blame for Afghanistan withdrawal?” Oh no “there is a good military by Trump and a bad military handled by Biden” This was not one person. He had at least 1/2 dozen saying same sh&t. Crazy party.

  52. BananaJoe says:

    Pretty much so. We were through most of the primary ones and have now changed our opinion of many of the recommended. After seeing the conflicts of interest and the subsequent injuries I no longer think the risk is worthwhile in many cases. I know someone in her early sixties who suffered permanent hearing loss due to a side affect. She was fooled.

  53. Phoenix says:

    Cry me a river. The criminal justice system came after me based on one lying woman.

    These guys are real criminals, they just have good lawyers and unlimited resources to keep them clean.

    Don’t worry, next time it will be the other side being persecuted. It goes back and forth every 4 years or so.

    BananaJoe says:
    September 8, 2023 at 1:05 pm
    That’s a banana republic. Using the criminal justice system to persecuted political opponents. We are there.

  54. Phoenix says:

    All of the money spent was to save the Greatest and the Boomers. The kids of today will be paying the principal and interest for years to come. Then boomer jacks up their house prices on them.

    Yup.

    Characteristic Number of deaths
    30-39 years 19,735
    40-49 years 46,036
    50-64 years 201,940
    65-74 years 254,710

  55. BananaJoe says:

    If you believe the data on mortality, then operation warp speed was a good thing. Personally I don’t believe the data.

    Either way that doesn’t justify the human rights violations and forcing people to take experimental shots. And it don’t make fauci any less of a fraud.

  56. Bystander says:

    He loves Vivek. Nothing more needs to be said. How gullible can you be when his stance is “I will get rid of the FBI on day 1”.. What it really means? I will do nothing but the soundbite sounds good to the cult. They would immediately stop all complaints about FBI bonce their side is back in charge.

  57. Bystander says:

    because

  58. Phoenix says:

    It could be argued that the wet market in China had actually given the answer to the problems Social Security and Medicare are having, mainly bankruptcy.

    Had you let it do it’s thing those institutions might not be headed for insolvency.

    And the housing crisis, how many more homes would have been available for younger families?

  59. Phoenix says:

    Banana, I believe the data. I lived it while others were having their food dropped off, then spraying it with bleach outside on the front porch before bringing it in.

    Oh, and talk about forced shots, you don’t get forced to take what I have to take for the privilege of taking care of you.

    And our youth, man, that group of kids, how they all stepped up to the plate- no vaccine-space suits- and gloves cleaning your Covid infested diarrhea and sputum, later to bag and tag you, and carry your mottled blue bodies out to a refrigerated trailer.

    Now they have to deal with what is left of you, your overpriced homes, raising social security age, and the debt you have left to them.

    Now, if you won’t take vaccines in the future, consider that a role of the dice. You get it right, you saved yourself from an evil vaccine. You get it wrong, you get a tombstone.

    BananaJoe says:
    September 8, 2023 at 1:15 pm
    If you believe the data on mortality, then operation warp speed was a good thing. Personally I don’t believe the data.

    Either way that doesn’t justify the human rights violations and forcing people to take experimental shots. And it don’t make fauci any less of a fraud.

  60. BananaJoe says:

    I don’t believe he would do that even if he wanted to. The success rate is people who try to diminish the power of intelligence services isn’t very high. Tends to be bad for their health.

    On the other hand, people who partner with them to advance their agenda, are rewarded with political favors such as mass censorship and covering up of their criminality. Ask Joe and Hunter.

  61. leftwing says:

    “The president does not control the price of oil…[drug pricing] may be worth debating. Not the price of oil. But you won’t hear of any thing potentially good that he’s done on Fox News…”

    Uhmmm, problem is HE is the one bringing up oil, not Fox, as he laughably tries to portray his Admin as not hostile to domestic E&P.

  62. Bystander says:

    Phoenix,

    When my Trumpie bro-in-law (top health) and Trumpie childhood friend (both in late 40a) both end in hospital for weeks with breathing issues then I tend to believe science. Both thought going to diw. They can repaint the picture now and portray Trump as legend and Ds as villians but it is pure BS.

  63. Phoenix says:

    A wider ban on China state employees from using Apple’s iPhones is not surprising and seeks to limit a Western company’s market access, the chairman of the U.S. House panel on China told Reuters on Thursday.

    Market access, or maybe they don’t want a Pegasus infected phone perhaps?

  64. Phoenix says:

    Oh,
    And the other side effects of Covid. Having your ex try to steal your visitation rights using the court system. Beech effeing came close. She timed it wrong.

    Cost me thousands in legal fees. The only win I ever got in a courtroom, didn’t lose my parenting rights.

  65. Phoenix says:

    Yeah, Boomer want’s the last drop of oil from America at a cheap price. Plus frack, frack frack. Who cares about fracking fluid? Boomer will dip from the planet before he has to worry about the pollution left behind.

    Uhmmm, problem is HE is the one bringing up oil, not Fox, as he laughably tries to portray his Admin as not hostile to domestic E&P.

  66. BananaJoe says:

    Well for The 50-100M who already has covid before they had access to the shot, it conferred no benefit. That’s from pre political immunology. AKA “science”

    Same with masks. No one has been able to show they worked according to “science”.

  67. Phoenix says:

    Want the price of oil lowered? Send Olivia Dunne to Saudi Arabia and let her negotiate.

  68. Phoenix says:

    Well, can’t say for certain, but I wear one every day at my job. I guess we buy them and wear them so corporations make money.

    Want that total knee done without anyone wearing a mask? Go for it. Maybe somewhere in the Congo they might appease you. But there does seem to be some science that masks do something.

    Of course, like any other tool, you need to know how to use one correctly, especially with an airborne disease. Most people are not going to do that.

    BananaJoe says:
    September 8, 2023 at 1:50 pm
    Well for The 50-100M who already has covid before they had access to the shot, it conferred no benefit. That’s from pre political immunology. AKA “science”

    Same with masks. No one has been able to show they worked according to “science”.

  69. Boomer Remover says:

    In moderation? What!? Come on Grim, open that gate. It’s Friday.

  70. Libturd says:

    experimental vaccine with no benefit except profiteering for the insiders.

    This IS patently false. Those vaccines saved millions of lives. But you choose not to believe it because it does not fit your agenda.

    Masks work as well. As do condoms. But again, it does not fit your agenda, so make believe they don’t. Sure, it’s only certain types of masks, and they must be worn properly. But if you want to claim a thimble is a condom (which is probably what fits ya), and then complain when she gets pregnant. More power to you.

    And I am no fan of Fauci. He fucked up the moment he hid the truth about masks when he claimed you could wrap a sock around your head, when his motive was to keep the limited masks in the hands of front-line workers. Also not a fan of the blood money he and others at the national labs accept in exchange for taxpayer payer funded research that ends up in the hands of the drug makers. But this does not mean that masks and vaccines don’t work.

  71. OC1 says:

    The crazy is strong here today!

    Must be the heat…

  72. Old realtor says:

    Backs up to NJT Bergen Line train tracks too!

    Fast Eddie says:
    September 8, 2023 at 10:27 am
    689K, no garage:

    https://www.trulia.com/p/nj/glen-rock/43-hazelhurst-ave-glen-rock-nj-07452–2006520820

  73. Fast Eddie says:

    Old Realtor,

    Is that house really going to sell for that price?

  74. Old realtor says:

    Eddie,
    42 days on market without a price change. Simple answer is no f#cking way. Greedy!

  75. SmallGovConservative says:

    Bystander says:
    September 8, 2023 at 11:01 am
    “You are not dealing with a rational person.”

    Says the guy that drives around with an ‘Anyone Sane’ bumper sticker, and then votes for Joe and Carmella!

    Do you stooges wake up every morning with a goal of embarrassing yourselves by attempting to defend the corrupt imbecile in the WH? Or does it just happen naturally for you guys?

  76. Bystander says:

    It is a fair point Banana,,looking in the rear view mirror of course. You hit the nail on the head earlier. Big money was to be made. That rises above politics though.

  77. leftwing says:

    “The GOP was fine when they were neocons.”

    Sure, throw in with the Bushes and other corporate interventionists. Again. LOL.

    All will be well, only if….

    “As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
    There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
    That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
    And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire”

  78. Very Stable Genius says:

    “Mark, we’re going to have to get him out,” Mr. Dial’s partner says.

    Mr. Dial then drags Mr. Irizarry out of the driver’s seat and the second officer comes and assists him as they carry Mr. Irizarry into the police cruiser, where they shove him into the back seat. Neighbors can be seen watching from their front steps. Mr. Dial instructs the other officer to stay with Mr. Irizarry’s car “so no one grabs anything.”

    When Mr. Dial arrives at a hospital, he appears to take Mr. Irizarry by the belt and pulls him out of the car. Hospital personnel can be heard saying, “Whoa, whoa, whoa,” what appeared to be in response to the way he pulled Mr. Irizarry, as the personnel load him onto a gurney and one member of the attending staff begins CPR.

  79. leftwing says:

    Fabius Maximus says: The downfall of the GOP was back when John (Bonehead) Boehner, failed to cut the Tea Party off at the knees.

    Libturd says: Those patriotic tea partiers were fine when they were a small faction of the party.

    Boy, the hard core liberals sure love a docile R party….

  80. leftwing says:

    “The crazy is strong here today! Must be the heat…”

    Yes, agree. Get these whacked-out liberals some large beach umbrellas please!

  81. Phoenix says:

    You don’t need to dupe them, Americans are always for sale to the highest price.

    China launches ‘INSIDIOUS’ plot to DUPE U.S. pilots and aerospace technicians into training Beijing’s military, Pentagon says in dire warning

  82. Bystander says:

    Nope. I did not get a functioning adult as president. We did not get one on the ballot, but we had to get rid of a maniac. Thank god..one term loser.

    American Gigolo or Officer and Gentleman? Which one does it for you, SGC?

  83. Boomer Remover says:

    Yeah, that’s no dupe, that’s free labor markets. Americans simply likea the money.

  84. ExEx says:

    It’s time to void every single government contract/subsidy Elon Musk enjoys.

  85. Juice Box says:

    Why Ex? Why exactly? Because some liberal rag and a bunch of morons tweeting on the left part of the hater brigade like George Takai say so?

    FYI – in reality here on earth the Ukrainian drones are operating very effectively. They hit troops, they hit tanks, they hit bridges, they hit ships, they are hitting aircraft parked hundreds of miles away inside Russia and well as factories too.

    Well guess what there is loads of streaming video of these attacks too. How the heck did all that get uploaded to the internet? Well they have satellite communications that is how, it’s just not Starlink the commercial version where Military use is against the terms of service. It is Military grade SATCOM that Space X developed called Starshield.

    Here is a recent CNN report. The Videos shared by Ukraine were uploaded to the internet on Elon’s SATCOM and other providers for the military as well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7STLTtOEOM

  86. Jim says:

    Nancy Pelosi has decided to run for re-election, she will be 83 years of age. Nancy is running on San Francisco values.
    I am sure she is thinking of making more money with her inside information. Martha Stewart went to jail but Nancy will continue making millions with inside information. Yet everybody is after Trump???? Only Republicans are crooks . LOL no justice in America…. its all about connections.

  87. BRT says:

    NJ didn’t have extended hospitalizations, they just killed you fast with the ventilator and led the nation for all of 2020 in Covid mortality.

  88. Juice Box says:

    1 step closer to WWIII.

    “The Biden administration is likely to send Ukraine long-range Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS, to help in its fight to repel the Russian invasion of its territory, according to U.S. officials.”

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-send-long-range-atacms-missiles-ukraine-time/story?id=103031722

  89. ExEx says:

    6:27 he’s a security risk. For starters.

  90. Juice Box says:

    EX – Your ignorance is a bigger security risk. He has top-secret clearance. Our Military uses Space X to launch lots of top-secret stuff. Just last week several military satellites into orbit for the US Space Force, and many many other top secret spy satellites over the years.

    The left hater brigade are after him with outright lies now because he believes in free speech and does not support their causes like mutilating children.

  91. 3b says:

    Frankilin Lakes council approves 495 unit multi family housing developer. It will also supposedly satisfy their Mt Laurel obligations.

  92. FridayNightChilling says:

    ExEx,

    I love Elon Musk and nerdy mindset. BUT, I deeply understand that his a GenX’r raised in apartheid South Africa and is not far removed from those values deep inside. Is like asking Strom Thurmond to be less racist just because he fathered a child with the black maid that was kept under wrap till he died. Musk techiness and his apartheid South African background give him that “Max Zorin” James Bond movie evil character thing.

    Is like Peter Thiel, which has again that Zorin thing. German and South African background whose mother was able to become an US Citizen, but whose father was denied. Easy to see the denial being based on the BND sending the FBI WW2 Axis views ideological links.

    BRT,

    Your ventilator hypotheses is pure BS. The only thing to do to help gas exchange in the lungs once 100% oxygen is reached is to use pressure. That is what a ventilator does.

    When those C19 patients were extubated at the end all the excess liquid kept in the body by the effect of the virus came out under pressure, you are talking about 8-10 liters / 15kg of excess fluid. Had more than once have family members with your BS viewpoint request extubation and the patient crashed within 10 minutes and had to be re-intubated. A moronic silly exercise done because people did not believe the facts that they saw in front of them, facts backed by science not “OrangeTreason MAGA Magic Dust”

  93. Very Stable Genius says:

    BREAKING!

    Judge Denies Meadows’s Request to Move Georgia Case to Federal Court
    Moving the case to federal court would have given Mark Meadows, a former White House chief of staff, one key advantage: a jury pool that was more favorable to Donald J. Trump.

  94. FridayNightChilling says:

    A quick simple reminder of how the original covid killed. Most people got sick and recovered during week 1, in the lungs you got your classic pneumonia – air sac aka alveoli filled with infected phlem. Those that got in trouble got worse on day 7.

    Reason for day 7 is that is when the body start to clean up the dead cells Covid killed. The immune systems floods the area with plasma to allow the white blood cells aka macrophages to eat up and dissolved dead one. In a small burn you see this effect as a blister that becomes filled with puss.

    Well, that is what happened in the lung interstitial tissue blocking gas exchange anfd requiring force to get gas across. Heart and kidney experienced similar effects causing kidney damaged and cardiac arrythmias and tissue damage just like a coronary infarction.

    All of the above cause the patient to retain fluid and get bloated until heart failure because of excess fluid in the body. When extubated at death some of the fluid would gargle up, just like a drowned person.

  95. ExEx says:

    PayPal mafia? Not a tech co. Musk acquired the firms that create tech.
    Not impressed.

  96. Libturd says:

    It’s amazing how quickly people forget that each round of a flu (barring significant mutation) is much less deadly, though potentially as contagious as the prior. The original mutation was the most deadly and of course, took out the low hanging fruit.

  97. Libturd says:

    I got the coveted post 100!

  98. Fast Eddie says:

    1st to be 2nd after 100th post.

  99. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Criminal that they put this message out there. What a lie. Two of my tenants are struggling.

    “The Consumer Is In Great Shape (Really),” according to the title of a report from Mizuho Securities economist Alex Pelle. While lots of attention is paid to the notion of dwindling “excess savings,” a nebulous concept at best, household wealth relative to incomes has returned to close to its all-time highs. (And for what it’s worth, his estimate of those excess accumulated savings is between $400 billion and $1 trillion, a significantly bigger cushion than the conservative estimate of $100 billion from the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco.)
    Indeed, household wealth rose to a new peak in the second quarter, according to the latest Fed data released this past week. Households’ net worth increased by $5.5 trillion, to $154.3 trillion in the period, notes Michael Lewis, who heads the Free Market Inc. advisory. Household real estate holdings appreciated by $2.4 trillion, or nearly 6%, in the second quarter, while stock market holdings were up $1.7 trillion, or 6%, though they were off 6% from their peak at the end of 2021.
    Looking at other aspects of consumers’ finances, Mizuho’s Pelle found net household wealth relative to incomes is just below a record 400%. That largely reflects the appreciation of equities and real estate assets. As for what can be readily turned into cash and spent, liquid assets are just shy of their highs at 90% of incomes.
    On the other side of the balance sheet, household liabilities are near 20-year lows relative to income, at about 100%. And with any sentient homeowner locking in the lowest mortgage rates in history in recent years, average debt service is less than 10% of disposable income. However, nonmortgage interest expenses have shot up to a 20-year high of 2.5% of disposable income because of credit-card debt and other borrowings, but mortgage interest is near a record low of 2.7% of income.
    Yet consumers seem more concerned about the prices they pay for stuff than the values of what they own. And nothing seems to capture their attention as much as the cost of filling up their automobiles (at least for the mass of us who don’t own electric vehicles). As such, the White House has to be concerned about the latest uptick in crude oil prices, which may be expected to show up at the petrol pumps.
    U.S. crude futures are up nearly 10% in the past two weeks and up over 30% from their 2023 lows touched six months ago, according to our Dow Jones data colleagues. That follows Saudi Arabia’s decision to extend its output curbs through the end of the year. What a shock, writes Peter Atwater in his Financial Insyghts commentary: that the Saudis would move to boost crude prices ahead of Aramco’s plan to sell $50 billion in stock in what would be the record equity raise in history.
    RELATED

  100. The Great pumpkin says:

    You are counting real estate wealth that is not possible for all. It’s based on limited sales. If everyone went to sell at current pricing, it would crash hard. Understand this.

  101. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yes, let’s use bubble pricing in real estate and stocks to justify that the consumers are flush with cash. Insanity!!

  102. BRT says:

    Your ventilator hypotheses is pure BS. The only thing to do to help gas exchange in the lungs once 100% oxygen is reached is to use pressure. That is what a ventilator does.

    Uh huh, that’s why they stopped using them right?

  103. BRT says:

    btw, love this forum. I was accused of being a liberal snowflake a few days back and now I’m an orange man fanatic.

  104. BRT says:

    It’s amazing how quickly people forget that each round of a flu (barring significant mutation) is much less deadly, though potentially as contagious as the prior. The original mutation was the most deadly and of course, took out the low hanging fruit.

    Yet somehow, the Northeast had a death rate triple that of all the areas hit prior to it.

  105. Phoenix says:

    Somehow, we always manage to be the most expensive in everything:

    When it comes to higher education worldwide, the United States is an outlier in more ways than one. In Canada and Japan, public-university tuition is now about $5,000 a year. In Italy, Spain and Israel, it’s about $2,000. In France, Denmark and Germany, it’s essentially zero. A few decades ago, the same thing was true in the United States; government funding covered much of the cost of public college. Now students and their families bear much of the burden, and that fact has changed what used to be a pretty straightforward calculation about the economic value of college into a complex math problem.

  106. Phoenix says:

    “NJ didn’t have extended hospitalizations, they just killed you fast with the ventilator and led the nation for all of 2020 in Covid mortality.”

    Those who can’t do, teach.

    Of course NJ had the most deaths, it is a densely populated state, and probably had and still has some of the most near dead walking corpses than any other state.
    People here are alive that would be dead in Arkansas. That’s what money does, it keeps people alive way past their expiration dates. Covid just pushed them over a cliff they were teetering on for years.

    As someone who looks into the medical charts of people everyday, let me tell you something- there are so many that look so good on the outside, but just like a used car, they have plenty of problems that are under the hood you don’t know about.

    “The study looked at patients who were severely ill with pneumonia and required mechanical ventilation, Singer said. A known possible complication from using a ventilator is developing secondary bacterial pneumonia, and patients in the study with COVID-19 pneumonia developed secondary pneumonia 57% of the time, compared to 25% among patients with other forms of pneumonia.

    Secondary pneumonia was a frequent factor when COVID-19 patients in the study died, but blaming the ventilator for the death is wrong since the patients would not have survived without going on ventilators, Singer explained. He compared the situation to blaming a surgeon for someone dying when they came to the emergency room with critical injuries from a car crash. In both cases, a medical intervention happened to give a patient who would not otherwise survive a chance to make it.”

    https://www.jci.org/articles/view/170682/pdf

  107. Juice Box says:

    U.S. patent 9,587,003 filed on February 4, 2016

    This is a DNA sequence found in Covid-19 that was patented by Moderna 4 years before the virus was found in the wild and only in Covid-19.

    Some scientists have said it was likely introduced to the COVID-19 genome through infected human cells expressing this MSH3 gene. This is hard evidence pointing to the lab leak theory, that there was unnatural genetic manipulation here and snot some no wet market mixing of a bat virus and another animal to then jump then to humans.

    We should be putting the genie back in the bottle when it comes to gain of function research, at least they have now cancelled the spelunking expeditions digging into the bowels of the earth looking for novel viruses to bring back to their mad scientist laboratories to play god with.

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