From RentCafe:
Competition for Apartments Intensifies in Midwest This Rental Season, but Miami Holds Onto 1st Place
While the Midwest is flexing its muscle in peak rental season, we’re seeing rising competition in the Northeast,as well. The main reason for this is New York’s remarkable progress in recovering from the pandemic’s economic effects: The city is very close to fully restoring its employment levels, according to a recent report by the NYC Economic Development Corporation.
However, New York is not an affordable place to live, so North Jersey (RCI score 113) is the perfect choice for people who want to live close to the attractions in the Big Apple, but who are not willing to pay steep living costs. Thus, North Jersey is the third-most competitive rental market nationwide and the hottest renting spot in the Northeast.
Including places like Jersey City and Newark — as well as smaller locations scattered across the counties of Bergen, Essex, Hudson, Morris, Passaic, Sussex and Union — America’s third-most competitive rental market is still seriously undersupplied, even with a 1.19% increase in recently built apartments. That’s why 71.4% of renters here renewed their leases, pushing the occupancy rate to 96.3% in peak rental season. On average, available units are occupied within 34 days, with 15 prospective renters competing for one vacant apartment.
Coming in 11th nationwide, Brooklyn, NY, is a hot renting spot for those who love the thrill of New York Cityas it offers a great combination of more affordable housing than Manhattan, in addition to convenience and amenities. Here again, the borough’s supply of apartments is far from keeping up with demand: Recently built units only account for 0.16% of the total housing stock, which prompted two-thirds (66.2%) of renters to stay put this summer. This led to an occupancy rate of 96.1% in peak rental season. Meanwhile, the average vacant apartment is filled within 38 days, with nine people competing for it.
What’s more, the number of office workers returning to Manhattan is on the rise, which is helping boost the local economy and create jobs — all while fueling competition for rental apartments. So, Manhattan joins our top 20 for the first time since the pandemic, claiming 13th place. Plus, with zero apartments opened recently, 66% of apartment dwellers chose to stay put during peak rental season. As a result, Manhattan has an occupancy rate of 94.7%. There are also nine renters vying for each vacant unit, which becomes occupied within 38 days, on average.
First… Maybe my lucky day
Including places like Jersey City and Newark — as well as smaller locations scattered across the counties of Bergen, Essex, Hudson, Morris, Passaic, Sussex and Union — America’s third-most competitive rental market is still seriously undersupplied, even with a 1.19% increase in recently built apartments.
God only knows what this author means by ‘recently built’. I see building going on everywhere I turn. Why don’t we take all of those empty corporate campuses and turn them into apartments? They’re sitting there. Repurpose them. Why are we paving more dirt, creating more runoff and increasing radiant heat?
Humm , my sump pump has been cycling since Friday. I better make sure my extra portable pump is working. I have not closed my pool yet either need to drain it down a bit too. I have only one gas can for my generator that is full, better check that as well.
Gary, they demolished the office buildings in East Hanover and are putting up apartments.
https://newyorkyimby.com/2022/06/construction-breaks-ground-at-72-eagle-rock-avenue-in-east-hanover-new-jersey.html
Progressives and rightwingers love the liberal Northeast and will never move to the Republican south. Housing ain’t a problem in Oklahoma, Mississippi, Kentucky…Lol
“ North Jersey is the third-most competitive rental market nationwide and the hottest renting spot in the Northeast.”
Heavy-handed governance and high taxes is what we love the most about the Northeast. I would say the cancel culture and mass online hysteria originates here as well, you know it’s triggering me and safe spaces. Puritanical in a way as it was back during the early days of the Northeast you know the good ole days of witch trials, when the accused was hung for their beliefs and free speech. Well it all started here, and that is why we love it so much sp that nobody even touched the National Monument to the Forefathers during the riots….
Fast: There is another massive apartment complex going up on Anderson Street I’m Hackensack.
How many people swamp their cars and almost drown in flooding today? Tide chart show peak right now and 8:30 PM tonight.
Nothing progressive about high prices high taxed areas. Going backwards not forward.
3B – Top 1 percent in the Northeast who drive and fund the progressive agendas love the regressive tax cuts. Bush Tax cuts in 2001, and 2003 that were made permanent under Obama in 2012. The 2017 tax cuts under Trump well they are still in effect too.
When do the progressive representatives introduce the legislation to take away those regressive tax cuts and make them progressive again? I would say government shutdown until all tax cuts going back 20 years are reinstated….
Progressives and rightwingers love the liberal Northeast
Dear Liberal Renters,
Thank you for leasing my apartments for another year in the hub of NYC. By the way, your rent has increased by 20%. Please deposit your monthly check on time.
Sincerely,
Your Right Wing Master
I like the corrupt governance of the Northeast. “It keeps things interesting.” And the reason rents are so high is due to all of the free shit you get to loot.
Corrupt governance is a remnant of New York and it’s famous Democrats out of Tammany Hall. Their progressive governance programs began after the American Revolution and lasted all the way up to the 1960s. Some of their progressive governance still flourishes today. Just try to do anything in NYC without Union workers. My cousin who has since retired was high up with the carpenters union. Hundreds of millions in bribes over decades was paid to keep labor peace. This is all recent stuff…..
And I mean just try and employ the latest migrant workers and even US citizen non-union workers on any Union-run job or site in NYC. There is no way it will happen without cash changing hands.
I like big buts and I cannot lie…
NSFW – Florida Airport a typical day these days for TSA workers.
https://twitter.com/9mm_smg/status/1707555247961301208
Well she is definitely a free Spirit.
RIP Senator Feinstein….
Gov Newsome should appoint this guy. California State Senator Scott Wiener, you know because of his name…we have not and a real Wiener in Congress for over 10 years now.
Feinstein passed. Stay classy San Diego
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1707742325164683613
BREAKING
Senator Dianne Feinstein Dies at 90
The California Democrat, the oldest member of Congress, had suffered a precipitous decline in health in recent months.
Fetterman – His brain is six months behind current events.
Fetterman just left this 30-pack of Budd Light in front of House Oversight Chairman James Comer’s office door in Congress…
Soggy as all hell this morning.
Maybe I should plan to aerate the lawn on Sunday. Ground will surely be soft enough to make it easier to get through all this shit clay up here.
Ok folks we have to come up with a new plan for the election. Russia Russia Russia won’t work this time.
“US accuses China of global media manipulation”
China is manipulating global media through censorship, data harvesting and covert purchases of foreign news outlets, the United States said on Thursday, warning the trend could lead to a “sharp contraction” of global freedom of expression.”
“The U.S. State Department said in a report that Beijing has spent billions of dollars annually on information manipulation efforts, including by acquiring stakes in foreign media through “public and non-public means,” sponsoring online influencers and securing distribution agreements that promote unlabeled Chinese government content.”
Are you telling me that people getting out of their houses everyday for work is good for the economy? Well, no chit. Maybe if you didn’t have the wfh experiment in the first place, you would have never given all these people extra cash to drive up rentals and real estate. Doi Doi!
“What’s more, the number of office workers returning to Manhattan is on the rise, which is helping boost the local economy and create jobs — all while fueling competition for rental apartments. “
Instead of all that extra cash going into real estate, it would have went to businesses helping to drive growth. Now housing is expensive and hurting overall growth.
Aerating is a beautiful thing for clay….
grim says:
September 29, 2023 at 9:14 am
Maybe I should plan to aerate the lawn on Sunday. Ground will surely be soft enough to make it easier to get through all this shit clay up here.
Grim – If you want win, place or show in the Wayne lawn wars. Aerate and Seed at the same time. Rent both machines from Home Depot and head over to Tractor Supply or pay extra at Home Depot and get a 50lb bag of uncoated grass seed or more if you property is a double wide. Uncoated seed because you get twice as much per weight and we aren’t having a drought here.
Paid home depot sponsor.. Aerate and Seed with Home Depot. Rent the machines that have a power drive especially if you have a hill like I do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuRnhF6461w
Might always want to pick up some Bud Light on sale and a few migrants from Home Depot too. Makes for an easy Sunday drinking America’s favorite beer and contributing to the welfare of our new migrant brothers from another mother..
I aerated my clay and then top dressed it with 1 inch of compost. That was enough to never have to aerate again. You can change the structure of the soil by getting the compost down into the openings.
Fetterman is a slob and a sad joke. The joke is on us.
Our entire government is a joke. All in it for themselves. Can’t wait for the shutdown.
AOC complains because a Congressman went to his district with Elon to show what is really going on at the border. I am surprised AOC has not accused these Hispanic leaders down there of pulling the ladder up behind them.
Not a bad watch 15 minutes.. The highlight is nobody that who gets caught is sent back it’s all catch and release now.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1707565081750290910
So far we dodged a bullet. Manhattan through Brooklyn is under water with 1-3 inches to go.
Ok – I am going to say 2000 cars washed out….
https://twitter.com/search?q=flooding%20nyc&src=typed_query
Mayorkas and everyone else responsible for the open borders plan should be tried for treason. They have intentionally compromised our sovereignty and national security. Criminal.
2,000? This is going to be way worse than IDA. You should see what’s left to come. BQE is under 4 ft of water, 23456 closed due to flooding. All three metro north lines closed. Belt Parkway and FDR closed.
And in ten years, when most countries around the world are increasing migrant wages to double hours to find someone to do the grunt work due to the baby dearth, you will change your tune.
Lib – I lowballed it as people obviously listened and stayed off the roads this time. No Alerts on the phones either? Anyone get an emergency flooding alert? Don’t see any tweets about it.
Abort your children and open the borders. Great platform.
Sovereignty and national security. Sure. Let me know the next time a Mexican is found flying a plane into a building or bombing a marathon. Of course for real terrorism, that takes a white guy, always Republican, who believes everything he hears and reads in the right wing media.
Things are not THAT bad.
Do you know why high end luxury stores are being looted? Because there is tremendous demand for their products in the aftermarket.
NYC got an emergency alert, my son in Manhattan noted it and they noted it on WFAN
These aren’t Mexicans primarily. They’ve come from 140 countries. How many are spies, criminals or terrorists. We don’t know. Most are coming nine from Venezuela who were count background check or extradite. Totally reckless.
I can understand the Democratic party position. Open the borders and capture future votes. At the local level though, allowing your city to be ruined to toe the party line is just plain stupid.
Politics in the US seems to be between the nationalist socialists and the internationalist socialists. They are all competing to wield the instruments of the state to do more damage, while claiming to help people.
I’d vote for Nikki Haley simply because she seems like a semi-normal person, she doesn’t have any policies that I’m particularly impressed with, but she also doesn’t strike me as someone who will try to do anything terrible. Fairly centrist I’d say.
I think DeSantis has been a decent governor but his anti-abortion stance offends me, and his political style isn’t winning.
But it’s only going to matter if Trump drops out one way or another. His worshippers have taken over the Republicans somehow.
“ Newsom said previously he has ‘multiple’ names in mind.
He told MSNBC he would name a black woman to the seat.”
I think that’s a good idea. Apartheid in the US didn’t really stop until the 1960’s Civil Rights movement.
Time for another Democrat, thanks to Roe vs Wade.
Venezuela’s notorious Tocoron prison is now empty. CNN was just there, their government sent 11,000 troops to take it over.
The government says the prisoners were transferred elsewhere. I wonder where that might be. Do they have room elsewhere or did they perhaps release a few to head north…..Who knows we don’t have any criminal record sharing with the communist government there. It’s not unheard of Castro did it during the 1980 the Mariel Boatlift..
I can’t stand Newsom. Everyone I know who transplanted from the East Coast to Cali has left since 2021. I mean EVERYONE. I am talking double digits worth of friends. Then the electric issues. The homeless issues. He has really been a complete failure. But we know longer care what our politicians do. It has honestly gotten to that point. Heck, there’s a Congressperson from New York who is a 100% complete fraud, yet he is still serving. Menendez? Same thing.
It’s a good day to get rid of your car and collect if you don’t want the payments anymore.
Never let a good crisis, or flooding, go to waste.
“Time for another Democrat, thanks to Roe vs Wade.”
I was willing to bet that the day the SCOTUS overturned it. I still am.
Heck, the Republican’s are rallying behind a multi-impeached, multi-criminally indicted television celebrity who lies like a three year old.
What the heck has happened to our country?
That’s what happens when you meddle and don’t do your regime change correctly.
At least when we did that in Libya, they couldn’t just walk here…
Juice Box says:
September 29, 2023 at 10:58 am
Venezuela’s notorious Tocoron prison is now empty. CNN was just there, their government sent 11,000 troops to take it over.
The government says the prisoners were transferred elsewhere. I wonder where that might be. Do they have room elsewhere or did they perhaps release a few to head north…..
Phoenix,
A govt shutdown is a good opportunity to reduce inflation. I don’t doubt that these items are discussed with Fed. A solid month to make year end inflation look lower and stop rate hike pressure.
American women are traveling to Mexico to have abortions.
That is what happened to our country.
Bye Nikki, we all know all of your eggs are gone and you are jealous of younger women.
American politicians talking about sending Special Forces into Mexico.
China should add Mexico to it’s Belt and Road initiative. Bring some missiles with them, and drive the Texans crazy.
Poor Dianne Feinstein. I was hoping to hear she had an affair with Mitch McConnell or at least a hookup.
I guess she was too old for him, he prefers younger women.
Old goats really like to die in these jobs. I’m going to suggest a career in politics to my kid, she might wanna die in the Capitol building in 90 years or so.
We came close to a government shutdown, but those pu zz ies wanted selfies instead.
America can’t manufacture anything, not even a correct storming of a government building.
Be thankful for the Mexicans and Polacks, if they didn’t come here, you would have any food to eat, and no one to build your houses in the correct geometric shape.
What are the chances NJ Transit will allow their trains to flood again?
Why a family meal is so important: Children who eat dinner without their dads are unhappier – even if their mum is there, study finds
Well, that’s a surprise. I like telling the young women where I work about the statistics of divorce. How they have a 50 percent chance of having one, with a 25 percent chance of having a happy one.
Then when they say that won’t happen, I remind them that it is their gender — 8 out of 10 times, that initiate it, and that it is most likely going to be them that want’s out, not their hubby.
Be careful what you wish for.
Phoenix – Was at my son’s game yesterday, they play two games a week. Another Dad started chatting after I told him to stop yelling at the Referee. He leads in with I’m divorced and it’s my day to watch the game, because the ex and him cannot be at the same game together even if they are on different sides of the field.
I don’t know why people are like this, even years after a divorce. Move on already life is too short…
Juice,
You should have asked him if he does his custody exchange at a police station.
It’s a thing. Saw some guy put his go-pro on the roof once at a custody exchange.
When females lie, this is the problem you have. You need evidence you didn’t do things, cause the PoPo will believe the “damsel in distress,” or is banging her and will mess up your life.
That man is smart. You have no idea.
Juice,
You cut in front of me, all I have to do to get even with you is call the PoPo and say you are driving like a drunk, then, while enjoying a bag of popcorn, watch as they make you do field sobriety tests.
And if I want to amp it up a bit, just claim “he might have waived a gun at me, well, I’m not sure if it is one,” and watch it all happen at gunpoint. And make sure you don’t resist, cause then I have eliminated you permanently.
It really is that simple. Remember Central Park Karen, she learned how to do this on a birdwatcher that annoyed her. But he was smart, recorded her, and left before they could beat him to death.
But that is what she wanted……
Hey, does anyone know when that Inflation Corruption Act kicks in? Is that part of the Build Back Bribes deal or is it separate?
Eddie,
Trump welcomed Saudi with open arms bearing lots of gifts.
Now they are jacking up oil prices. Plus they flew our planes into our buildings.
Guess his “goodwill” is long gone.
Cool water ride in Brooklyn..
https://twitter.com/davidhenrynobo1/status/1707786983852880007
That’s sad….and seriously, 90% of the time it is the woman. Most guys are laid back, it’s the woman that digs and turns the simple guy into an animal….exactly what she wants to do to make the man look like the bad guy; justify why she is ruining the family and her kid’s lives.
Of course, she will play the hero and act like she is doing the right thing for her family. I saved you from that horrible man ruining our lives.
A crazy woman is the most dangerous thing on the planet. Be careful who you marry…it’s likely not worth it and can ruin your life.
Juice Box says:
September 29, 2023 at 11:26 am
Phoenix – Was at my son’s game yesterday, they play two games a week. Another Dad started chatting after I told him to stop yelling at the Referee. He leads in with I’m divorced and it’s my day to watch the game, because the ex and him cannot be at the same game together even if they are on different sides of the field.
I don’t know why people are like this, even years after a divorce. Move on already life is too short…
Fast
Instead of being angry about the inflation act, figure out what businesses will benefit from it and invest accordingly.
There are big tax credits for companies for renewable energy, plus because of accounting rules a solar farm gets amortized very quickly, around 6 years but will produce energy for 20-40 years. Conglomerates that own wind or solar farms can use the tax credits to offset income in non energy areas. Berkshire is investing heavily in solar and wind because of that plus decent returns on capital. But there are much smaller conglomerates copying that strategy. Amortizing the costs of the solar farms so quickly artificially makes their earnings look much lower for the time being, and because analysts just focus on the next quarter and don’t understand what the numbers truly mean, it’s possible to find some gems.
Water rescue needed for the Sea Lions at the Central Park Zoo.
https://twitter.com/JustaChiro/status/1707792498129563741
Probably better for her. She spent a lifetime pillaging the system to amass tens of millions of dollars. But in the end, she went senile and was relegated to a person pushing her around in a wheel chair and an aid telling her “just vote yes” in front of the entire nation. What’s the point of stealing all that wealth if you aren’t going to enjoy it.
To all assh&ole restaurants,
I rarely sit down at restaurant for meal so once a month I pick up your highly over-priced food. I order, I pay, I drive and I pick it inside your restaurant. I am not paying you a processing fee nor am I tipping you 20% automatically for that privilege. F-off.
Signed every rational consumer.
For those that don’t travel, our area is the only place in the country where restaurants and businesses are charging extra for credit card use.
Beer,
Instead of being angry about the inflation act, figure out what businesses will benefit from it and invest accordingly.
Certainly. There’s always a reaction to an action. CD rates, ETFs, a basket of Index Funds… it all counters. What I’m really saying is that I have a hard time believing there are assorted muppets who believe democrats have their best interest at heart.
“We’re working for the American people!”
No you’re not. You’re working for the highest bidder. Ask the O’Bidens and Menendez.
“It’s for the children!”
No it isn’t. It’s for the Union cash draw to fund campaigns and lavish lifestyles.
“We saved democracy!”
No you didn’t. It didn’t need to be rescued. You just want to get rid of the mean orange man.
“Black Lives Matter!”
Sure they do. Lol. You could care less about black lives, you want votes and money in exchange for crocodile tears.
Juice, we are getting kinda fed up with the parents on my girl’s travel team already. They yell at the ump about technical calls and it’s obvious they don’t even know the rules. One of the parents got ejected a few weeks back and refused to leave. So it was 5 minutes before they were able to resume play. Well, they lose on a time expiration and then flip a lid. It was our parent that burned the 5 minutes.
Steakhouse I went to last week in NYC, well the four of us ran up an $800 bill, automatic gratuity of 20% added. This is a service charge per IRS rules since the year 2014 meaning the restaurant does not have to give 100% of it or really any of it to the servers. Only the additional tip. It sucks you cannot lower or increase it as it’s not optional and chances are the restaurant is keeping a good portion of it. You can thank the Obama administration for it folks, as I said it’s not optional.
“ The FBI has arrested a member of the Proud Boys who went missing just before he was set to be sentenced for his role in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, according to a spokesperson for the Collier County Sheriff’s Office.
We can confirm the arrest of Christopher Worrell,” the spokesperson told ABC News in a statement Thursday evening. “The FBI arrested him and the Collier County Sheriff’s Office assisted.”
Worrell, a 52-year-old from Naples, Florida, went missing in August just before he was going to be sentenced for several felonies he was convicted on over his conduct during the Jan. 6 riot.”
BRT – three years ago I decided to become the parent that shuts down the other bad parents after several problems that derailed games. I don’t care if you are built like an NFL linebacker or have cauliflower ears.
Here is a few thing to say. It’s soccer not MMA, let them play. Don’t ruin your kids day, so let’s not do it this way. Please be quiet it’s Sunday. Don’t get your team a red card, you will ruin your team’s day or just s simple shush works too. Always try to be funny, they usually will snap out of it..mileage will vary..
Lib
Lots of businesses charge a processing fee for credit cards in Texas. I just bought lunch at a bbq place and noticed a 45 cent card processing fee on the receipt.
BRT,
Play a tier down. Gator Jr. stayed on a team of players with like-minded parents all who could have had their kids playing in the top tier, mainly to escape those asinine parents. Made it to nationals two years in a row, which would have never happened to any of them on Tier 1 teams (not from Jersey at least). There are only two teams from the tri-state that qualify and unless your kid was born in Eastern Europe, Minnesota, Wisconsin or Canada, he would not even be considered for a roster spot. And you and him/her are better off. Look at the USA Under 17 hockey roster. Just play one tier down. Plus, your kid will be a leader, helping bring others up than just another kid, destined for the same place as all of the other kids. Playing club soccer/baseball/hockey in college.
https://www.usahockeyntdp.com/news_article/show/1266949
During five decades in public office, Joe Biden built his political brand on his working-class roots. Over that time, members of his family capitalized on his political success by invoking the Biden name to bolster their business pursuits in deals worth millions of dollars.
A Wall Street Journal examination shows that the practice extended beyond his son Hunter Biden. The president’s younger brothers—James and Francis Biden—sought to profit from their blood connection to the politician, according to interviews and public records.
Certain Biden family members’ yearslong pattern of trading on the powerful name is at the center of an impeachment inquiry by House Republicans that got under way with a committee hearing Thursday.
Lawmakers allege they unfairly profited from the elder Biden’s political clout, and the inquiry will examine whether the president also benefited from or otherwise played a role in the financial endeavors of his kin.
The White House and Democrats have denounced the inquiry as a political stunt aimed at unjustly tarnishing the president. White House spokesman Ian Sams said House Republicans have continually lied about the president, failed to find evidence of what they claim and uncovered no evidence of wrongdoing.
The Journal’s examination of President Biden’s relatives’ dealings didn’t turn up evidence that he benefited from the business enterprises that relied on his name. But on at least a few occasions before his presidency, Joe Biden was more present in his family’s business dealings than he or they have acknowledged.
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/how-joe-bidens-kin-profited-off-the-family-name-the-big-guy-is-calling-me-547220ab?mod=hp_lead_pos9
HMB,
I’ll correct myself. Very few places. Were you in Austin?
“These aren’t Mexicans primarily. They’ve come from 140 countries. How many are spies, criminals or terrorists. We don’t know.”
How many illegal immigrants stormed the capitol on Jan 6? How many have shot up schools? How many were involved in the Oklohoma city bombing?
Our crime and terroism problems (to the extent they exist) are being driven overwhelmingly by good old American citizens.
USA! USA! USA!
Lib
I’m in DF W area. Had lunch in Arlington today.
OC1,
Did you not watch the debate? It is fentanyl, fentanyl, fentanyl. The Mexicans are coming with bags of it, every one. They are putting in the tacos that they deliver to us. In the baby food their nannies feed oir kids and even in the lawn mower blades to spread it around as inhalable dust. How about Rs teaching their kids to not do drugs? They are victims of immigrants. I thought Reagan spent billions on stopping drugs. Talk about useless voting buying handouts and racism via black dealers getting the boo. Faux News had the audacity to say that separating black fathers was squarely on Dems via Great Society. Sh^t for brains, Fox viewers
OC1- How do you know? Texas is the only state that records the immigration status of those arrested. I would wager the illegal immigrants cause way more crime than legal immigrants. But hey look here insurrectionists! How about murder and property crimes mostly, men who were born and raised here. Perhaps a better solution is to keep the immigrants and deport the criminals? It was tried in England and gave birth to several countries.
Bad writing but I have a mtg. You get the point.
Bystander,
“Losing Ground” by Charles Murray is a pretty compelling read. Financial incentives do matter.
BTW – deaths from Fentanyl are still increasing, it’s risen to over 100,000 annualy. Paramedics reportedly are administering narcan injections now in one in every 100 medical event or more depending on area of the country.
You can now by Narcan OTC the nasal spray version for $45 bucks.
Might be a good idea to keep it in the medicine cabinet, who knows what kids will get into as they get older.
https://www.cvs.com/content/prescription-drug-abuse/save-a-life
Grim am I being modded?
“OC1- How do you know? Texas is the only state that records the immigration status of those arrested. I would wager the illegal immigrants cause way more crime than legal immigrants. ”
I’ll take that wager!
The system doesn’t seem to like my links, but if you google
“comparing-crime-rates-between-undocumented-immigrants-legal-immigrants”
you will find a bunch of studies that show that WRT criminality, illegal immigrants < legal immigrants < native born americans
One example:
"This study used uniquely comprehensive arrest data from the Texas Department of Public Safety to compare the criminality of undocumented immigrants to legal immigrants and native-born U.S. citizens between 2012 and 2018.
The study found that undocumented immigrants had substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses. Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes."
There are a lot of good reasons for cracking down on illegal immigration, but reducing crime isn't one of them.
Illegals are less likely to commit crime because, 1) they are less likely to do drugs and drug use drives most crime. 2) They do not want to be deported.
Lots and lots of studies have proved this.
If you want to argue immigration is costly, then I will listen.
If you want to argue that are drug carrying, rapist terrorists out to poison your child with Fentanyl, then you are simply stupid!
No one,
I am sure it is. Lots of compelling reads out there as to why some in society get it all and why some get none. Lots of reads about to the misuse and abuse of govt programs but looking in a vacuum as “only welfare is bad” does no good. Alot of it is bad, starting with tax system, creating class wars with people feeling stolen from and looking for answers. Look at corp America for that answer. Dumping people on social program bc we allow them to pay nothing and provide nothing while raking billions from system
OC1 – Using the same state Texas data from 2019.
Criminal conviction rates for illegal immigrants is higher than legal immigrants. It varies by crime type but overall more are convicted. Homicides, Sex Crimes some of the worst. Sure they do less thievery..but then again the native-born are far worse.
Legal Immigrants > Illegal Immigrants > Native Born
Deport the native born to a modern version Devil’s Island just like Napoleon did with French Criminals.
https://tinyurl.com/bdhddm9r
I agree with Bystander.
Just look at all of the fraud with the PPP or any other government system. I don’t know of a small business where there are not massive amounts of chicanery. Trust me, every time you see an oversized SUV/Hummer, it’s driven by a soccer mom and no doubt is being written off as a business use truck at $28,900 a year. It’s everywhere you turn. Isn’t it amazing how only old (lightly frequented) restaurants go up in fire? Yet some poor schlub trying to escape the violence of a government in bed with the drug lords which only exist due to America’s addiction to their product, is a major crisis.
Actually, a tropical prison colony sounds better than Rikers Island. Dustin Hoffman in Papillon the 1973 version, not the 2017 remake with Rami Malek.
Juice,
I didn’t realize there was any legal immigration anymore.
Lib – your dream country in Central America does not put up with them. Why should we, again I am not against immigration. We do however have a problem now, just ask the Mayor of NY, pretty soon he will be busing them to Montclair.
Lib – Break it down this way 2,200 legal daily arrivals and 5,000 unauthorized (that we know of).
Juice-
So whether you look at arrests or convictions, native born americans are substantially more likely to commit crimes than illegal immigrants, right?
OC1 – there is nothing new about that, you steal a pack of cigs you could be deported. No fear of that threat for the native born. It is a form of punishment just like incarceration.
Immigration cab funny too. if you are from say Ireland and have an OnlyFans business they will deny your visa application to visit because well prostitution!
Funny, coming back from Canada this summer with the family we felt like criminals, pulled up to the booth cameras flashed all over the place, showed our passports, had me open all the windows and asked all kinds of questions. Going in they only asked us if we had any firearms or pepper spray.
No factual basis. It’s all regurgitation of Fox News propaganda.
One thought about the statistical crime rates of illegal immigrants.
(Note, I’m very much pro-immigration of productive people – I’m not one of those “Dey took er jobs” people.)
Speculative by me. Someone living in and/or policing the illegals community could show me where I’m wrong.
Crime is mostly committed against people in their vicinity. Theft, rape, etc.
If illegals are mostly around other illegals, then a lot of their crimes will be against other illegals. The important statistical concern is that illegals (I think) are less likely to call the police to report a crime, because they are worried about getting in trouble themselves.
I also have a suspicion that illegals committing crimes flee/don’t get found/turned in as much. If you don’t catch the criminal, you won’t know whether the criminal is an illegal.
I think there are some illegal communities within which criminality is high, and probably a lot more where criminality is low. All illegals aren’t the same.
In any case, making it illegal or more difficult for illegals to work is going to breed criminality and/or welfare dependency. If the US is going to have so many illegals, why can’t we at least enjoy $20 lawn mowings and cheap home painting and repairs, and give them something to keep them busy?
Genius To be taken seriously by well me or anyone else on the lunatic fringe who don’t watch cable for news at least make an effort in your retort.
Now I am off to loot groceries as everyone has to eat!
Most of the posters here (with the exception of SmallGov and BananaJoe) are intelligent people and can hold two ideas in their heads at the same time.
1) Uncontrolled illegal immigration has some negative effects on the US (one of which is that it’s just hard to absorb the large numbers of people entering), and needs to be reduced.
2) Most illegal immigrant are law-abiding and hardworking, and come to America so they can work and better the lives of themselves and their families.
There is nothing contradictory between those two ideas.
“everyone has to eat!”
Can you pick me up some prosciutto? My local supermarket only sells the pre-packaged stuff, which is like $30/lb!
I am not kidding folks an entire grocery cart filled with Top Shelf was stolen right in front of every Whole Foods free-range shopping moms eyes….The booze bandit last I checked was a male with eastern European features perhaps from the Burren of Monmouth County. I told the cops to train their dogs to listen for the musical strains of Dave Gahan and the smell of Baklava if you want really want to find him…So far no leads….
For great italian cold cuts, gotta go to an A&S.
OC1 – I digress if you found your way to this corner of the internet it is because we are dumb. I could have opened an unboxing website years ago on Youtube starring my kids and be in the 1% by now.
Libturd,
It’s “Everybody Must Eat!”
Get it right! ;)
It may not have affected your job. If it affects others so be it let them eat cake.
No One says:
September 29, 2023 at 3:48 pm
I’m not one of those “Dey took er jobs” people.)
Speculative by me. If the US is going to have so many illegals, why can’t we at least enjoy $20 lawn mowings and cheap home painting and repairs, and give them something to keep them busy?
If you’re not in the top 10% of HHI, are you even alive? /s
No, but really, we can agree that anything less is a relative hardship.
I find it incredibly endearing, when a poster makes an excellent point that is well received by all, but they take just that one deliberate slight detour to call out their arch nemesis.
You guys.
Dude,
At my country club I’m more focused on working on my driver dispersion than anything else.
My tennis backhand is ok, not great. More fun would be to work on rediscovering my service motion groove = more free points.
I notice golf lessons cost more per hour than tennis coaches. Also notice more immigrants in tennis coaching than golf. Coincidence?
OC1 says:
September 29, 2023 at 4:08 pm
“Most of the posters here… are intelligent people…”
The posters here that voted for Joe and Carmella are NOT intelligent people.
“Uncontrolled illegal immigration has some negative effects on the US…”
Possibly the most dishonest use of ‘some’ since the Dem anti-Semite Ilhan Omar described 09/11 as “some people did something”. Proof that among the stooges here that voted for Joe, OC is also one of the most dishonest.
Libturd says:
September 29, 2023 at 10:39 am
“Things are not THAT bad.”
For self-proclaimed independent who dislikes both parties, you spend a whole lot of time defending, down-playing and excusing the indefensible incompetence of the modern Dem party. Let me guess, the Baltimore school system also isn’t THAT bad, right?
“Incompetence” that’s a laugh.
Seeing as though the GOP decided to elect the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet to serve in DC. Watching your party circle the drain on a daily basis is a laff.
Hilarious.
I call out the D’s for their corruption every step of the way. But the populists who have taken over the Republican Party? This crew is too stupid to be in it for themselves. The problem with them is that their platform is nonsense. Being anti-woke is almost as dumb as being racist. This whole movement to censor what is taught in schools? That is the platform of the Taliban. And then to claim it’s choice and then take away women’s rights to both abortion AND birth control? It’s the party of lunacy.
I hope this explanation suits you. I would vote for Christie if the Republican Party was smart enough to listen to him. Sadly, it’s the loudmouth or nothing for them.
How good is this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv_eI50cUaU
Juice Box says:
September 29, 2023 at 4:36 pm
I am not kidding folks an entire grocery cart filled with Top Shelf was stolen right in front of every Whole Foods free-range shopping moms eyes….The booze bandit last I checked was a male with eastern European features perhaps from the Burren of Monmouth County. I told the cops to train their dogs to listen for the musical strains of Dave Gahan and the smell of Baklava if you want really want to find him…So far no leads….
BTW boys I was told somehow I am still in the final two. I am fine, gig or no gig the band still plays on.
The question now is to go full on or not..watch this clip as I need advise more than ever.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q