Inventory falls in Bergen, Morris, and Passaic

From NorthJersey.com:

Market update: Three North Jersey counties saw an increase in home listings in November

North Jersey’s real estate market saw a decrease in both new home listings and median listing prices during the month of November.

Similarly, national mortgage rates have experienced a decrease over the past month or so, but still remain high. Nationally, the average mortgage rate for a 30-year fixed mortgage is 7.48%, according to Bankrate, down from the more than 8% interest rates we saw in September.

According to housing data from Realtor.com for November, some of New Jersey’s 21 counties experienced a decrease in new home listings compared with November 2022, while others actually saw an increase.

The North Jersey counties of Bergen, Passaic and Morris continue to see a decline in new home listings. In November, Bergen and Morris saw a decline of 7.08% and 7.56%, respectively, while Passaic saw a decline of 3.54%.

While these areas continue to see fewer new listings than in the year prior, it is not by as significant of a margin than in previous months. In September, Bergen, Passaic and Morris had declines of 25.82%, 24.18% and 11.46%, respectively.

In contrast, Essex, Sussex and Hudson counties all saw an increase in new home listings compared to 2022. Hudson County saw the highest increase at 9.6%, while Essex and Sussex saw increases of 7.98% and 6.74%, respectively.

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80 Responses to Inventory falls in Bergen, Morris, and Passaic

  1. grim says:

    Anyone using Optimum’s fiber offering yet? Curious. Have always been ticked off since my neighborhood was supposed to be converted to FIOS years ago, and missed out when Verizon gave up on new deployments.

  2. Juice Box says:

    Nope gig speed from FIOS for over a decade. All our wiring is underground too, no telephone poles in our development. I had DSL before anyone had it, then later a cable modem now it’s fiber to my home.

    Did you consider FWA ultra 5G wideband? It’s rated 300 MBs to 1000 MBs depending on plan. T-mobile gas it too but slower.

    Check your address here on Verizon’s site.

    https://tinyurl.com/3rv7taem

  3. grim says:

    From the BBC:

    Why Americans’ ‘YOLO’ spending spree baffles economists

    While some of this spending reflects the rising cost of necessities, Americans are also still buying big-ticket items and laying out tons of cash for experiences. This “YOLO” attitude towards money bucks the spending trends of past economic downturns – and some economists have been left scratching their heads, especially as consumer sentiment on the economy remains overwhelmingly pessimistic.

    “If 18 months ago, you’d have said the Federal Reserve Bank could raise interest rates by 500 basis points, and the consumer would chug on, relatively unfazed, I would have been extremely surprised,” says Ellie Henderson, an economist at UK-based, global bank Investec. “I’d have said, ‘that’s just not how economics works’.”

  4. Juice Box says:

    It’s Mbps per sec. They along with other carriers have mmWave spectrum ultra high frequency, so it will become multi gigabit speeds eventually as the antenna and repeaters get deployed, for now it’s mostly C-Band.

  5. grim says:

    I’ve got 300mbs on cable now, it’s plenty fast, so maybe I shouldn’t even bother.

  6. Fast Eddie says:

    This “YOLO” attitude towards money bucks the spending trends of past economic downturns – and some economists have been left scratching their heads, especially as consumer sentiment on the economy remains overwhelmingly pessimistic.

    It’s called $1,000,000,000,000 plus in credit card debt and motoring towards $2,000,000,000,000 unabated. I could apply for five more credit cards today and have them in two weeks. Notice the word ‘credit’. You deserve it! The Vig on your balance is the envy of every crime family syndicate.

  7. Hold my beer says:

    Fast

    Don’t you know? Credit cards are like tissues. When you fill it up, you just toss it in the trash and get a new one.

  8. Fast Eddie says:

    The North Jersey counties of Bergen, Passaic and Morris continue to see a decline in new home listings.

    The waiting list for wristbands to stand in line at open houses in these counties is now six months. Porta Potties will be available. The prices for the wristbands are on par with Taylor Swift tickets and are limited, so hurry! A 20% offer submitted over list price will get you a private appointment to see a house instead of standing on line. Though, it’s no guarantee that the offer will be accepted.

  9. Phoenix says:

    That’s how our government runs, so why not it’s individuals?
    Boomer gives billions to other countries, and put it on a credit card for the youth to pay off.

    Hold my beer says:
    December 5, 2023 at 7:33 am
    Fast

    Don’t you know? Credit cards are like tissues. When you fill it up, you just toss it in the trash and get a new one.

  10. Phoenix says:

    “Buy now or be priced out forever”
    Pumpy.

    Just think how much money you could have made Eddie. You could have been as rich as Trump had you listened to Pumpy and had ferrous huevos.

    Fast Eddie says:
    December 5, 2023 at 7:54 am
    The North Jersey counties of Bergen, Passaic and Morris continue to see a decline in new home listings.

    The waiting list for wristbands to stand in line at open houses in these counties is now six months. Porta Potties will be available. The prices for the wristbands are on par with Taylor Swift tickets and are limited, so hurry! A 20% offer submitted over list price will get you a private appointment to see a house instead of standing on line. Though, it’s no guarantee that the offer will be accepted.

  11. Juice Box says:

    300 Mbps is unusually plenty. You would need allot of streamers to use it all up.

    25 Mbps for 4K (UHD) streaming
    20 Mbps for 1080P streaming

    Biggest issue is usually introduced by home wireless. A dedicated ethernet cat 6 cable is always faster than wireless due to switching and duplex. A wireless home router channel well all those devices will share time on each channel. Wifi is unswitched and half-duplex, making it very sensitive to collisions, and allot of repeat conversations. The signal may look strong too but there is where channel 10 is completely empty, but if channel 11 is busy the “bleed-over” concept of you neighbors using the same channel will still mean you get even poorer throughput. Always wire up where you can.

  12. 3b says:

    Interest rates are just too high, we have to get them back down again. The debt and spending do not matter. Now with these “abnormally” high rates we are going to kill the economy and being on a recession. We need to get these rates low again so we can go back to Nirvana. That’s some of the chatter out there.

  13. grim says:

    Using Unifi for Wifi, have two AP’s (main floor and basement) with gigabit backhaul between the APs and router. That’s pretty much the cables I’ve got. My main dev PC is wired up on 2x 1gig as well (which is overkill), but that’s recent since downloading models from HuggingFace was taking too long on WiFi.

    Oohhhh one more, the main living room AppleTV is wired as well.

    Lutron router is wired, but that doesn’t really count.

  14. Fast Eddie says:

    Cities are now claiming the influx of illegal immigrants is a ‘migrant crisis’. What crisis? You’re classified as sanctuary cities, compassionate to the plight of those seeking a better life. Plus, you’re investing in future democrat voters so, what’s the issue? Do you mean resources and money are becoming a strain? Raise taxes, issue resolved. Oh, by the way, Governor Abbott is sending you 70,000 more people. Expect your label pin to be in the mail shortly thanking you for your contributions.

  15. Libturd says:

    We run $34/month FIOS 300MBPs. It usually runs at 330/340 up/down. Even when we had five of us Zooming/Teaming during the lockdown, we never slowed down. Even though we have plaster walls, I bought a very powerful WiFi router with the most advanced MiMo and it works like a charm. The other I do, that seems to help, is I put two USB powered internal PC fans directly under the router. Keeping your router cool is often more important than incoming bandwidth. It also extends the life of it. We used to burn out a modem every two years. Sometimes quicker. Ever since I put the fans under the router, we hardly even get resets. I have a Netgear Nighthawk that looks like Kylo Ren’s ride.

    https://www.netgear.com/home/wifi/routers/raxe300/

  16. leftwing says:

    Anyone use TMobile 5G home internet?

    “…counsel for Menendez said he “will not be commenting on anonymous media leaks designed to prejudice his right to a fair trial. He looks forward to addressing the government’s claims in court, based on a complete record of the evidence.”

    Based on a complete record, ha. In other words, I’m guilty as hell but going to wait and see if you really have the goods on me before proceeding, lol.

  17. leftwing says:

    Was in a nice little downtrend toward some levels on a daily before the flat PMI…

    Key level today is near 454, SPY breaks that getting closer to a bit of a cascade down

  18. Libturd says:

    On consumer sentiment and spending.

    The economy is absolutely solid regardless of what the pundits on the right are saying. And it’s doing it even after the FED raised the rates by 500 basis points. My net worth is up over 20% in the past twelve months and that’s after having to pay the first semester of college tuition and after paying cash for a 65K car, which by the way, I’m starting to understand why people drive nice cars. When you have a lot of savings, inflation just doesn’t hurt as much. Yeah, it costs me $20 more to fill my car with gas, but with so much money in the bank with >5% interest rates, it really doesn’t hurt. My step-father always reminded me from a very young age that you haven’t made it until the interest of your savings generates more annual income than the fruits of your labor. Which is why you have to save early and regularly. And yes, my purview on the economy could be and is most likely very different than most others. But, it certainly isn’t the sky is falling, gloom and doom and near world collapse that the right keeps claiming. Though, I have a funny feeling that this constant repetition of the current dark times we are stuck in is the only real cause behind the negative sentiment.

    You all know, at this time last year, when the Nasdaq was down 33% from it’s peak, I said this year was going to be very good. The vast majority here thought I was crazy, especially considering how bearish I had been since the stimulus was releases since I knew it would cause serious inflation. Then, when the rally stalled in the middle of the Summer and the market started dropping again, I suggested people who missed the start of this bull rally should consider going all in. Again, most here disagreed. I say this over, and over, and over again. Nearly everything the mainstream finance outlets are pedaling is noise. I watched the ticker go across the bottom of the screen since I was 8 years old. It took me at least twenty years to realize that I should have turned the volume off and ignored everything going on above that ticker.

    So what do the tea leaves read now?

    I disagree on the credit card debt issue. It’s higher than ever. But not growing at a rate that was any quicker than it was before the pandemic. With the stimulus spent, one could say credit card spending was just making up for lost time or dare I say, “pant up.”

    The labor market is simply en fuego (albeit stronger at the low end than the high end). And the starting salaries for recent college graduates would make you blush. But I guess that’s how it’s alway been. I remember being so impressed by my step-father when he sold his business for one million dollars around the turn of the century. It seemed like so much back then. Now kids graduating with four year degrees are starting out making 60-100K. If your parents let you live with them, you could save so much money. It was a lot harder for me to save money when I was making 18K and living on my own after college. This labor market is simply very, very strong.

    Really, my only concerns are about the labor market going forward. I’m seeing some layoffs pickup, but we’ll have to watch carefully after the holiday shopping season. Anecdotally, I drive past the Willowbrook two times a week at 2:45pm and the parking lot is nearly full. I think spending will be down slightly this year simply due to the lack of stimulus and impact of inflation. Though I expect the reduction to be small. All eyes will be on the 4th quarter results.

    Politically, it’s a win win regardless of who get’s the White House. Biden has been effective enough and the SCOTUS Roe v Wade decision should give him another term. Even if somehow Trump won, he would again pressure Powell to lower the rates regardless of the depth of the recession and would probably initiate another corporate tax cutting scheme which would be great for the market and terrible for the deficit again. Though, I don’t know how well our treasuries would do having our country lead by a president with 91 federal indictments pending. And if a president can pardon himself. Well, then roll out the red carpet for the next Hitler because there will be absolutely nothing stopping him from doing anything he wants.

    Israel vs. Hamas is noise. Russia vs. Ukraine is noise. The rich can still buy homes and the not so rich will benefit from a decline in rental rates. What’s not to like about this economy?

    And the FED reloaded its revolver for a change.

  19. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Why is economy still going….simple as this. Goldilocks labor market. The unique labor market that created conditions for workers to demand WFH. The unique labor market that acts like a union labor market and allows for workers to just show up (not do their job) and still keep their job.

    How long will this last? All on AI. AI will slowly bringing the labor market back to equilibrium. It’s already happening…why most of the layoffs are in high quality white collar jobs.

    My two cents..

  20. Libturd says:

    At least it’s nice to see you thinking for yourself.

    AI will improve our lives drastically. Just not as quickly as you think it will. For now, more noise.

  21. 3b says:

    Lib: And if the Fed lowers rates next year, is it back to the races?
    Or, if the Fed does not lower rates or lower as much as expected what then?

  22. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I always think for myself. That’s how i called the real estate market 10 years out and never backed down no matter how stupid i looked at the time.

  23. Libturd says:

    I think it’s a slow melt up for while. This 20% jump was a preview. It was a very easy call to make with inflation dropping. As long as the recession is not deep (and I doubt it will be), he might maintain rates right where they are now. Goldilocks.

  24. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Looks like recession is coming or already here. Job openings big miss.

    JOLTS lower, 8733k vs est 9300k, job openings coming down!

  25. 3b says:

    Lib: AI is going to eliminate a lot of jobs, and not just white collar. If one thinks this through there will be even less need for commercial office space, and the WFH obsession won’t matter.

  26. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I can get behind this. I still stand by my roaring 20s 2.0 position.

    Libturd says:
    December 5, 2023 at 10:54 am
    I think it’s a slow melt up for while. This 20% jump was a preview. It was a very easy call to make with inflation dropping. As long as the recession is not deep (and I doubt it will be), he might maintain rates right where they are now. Goldilocks

  27. leftwing says:

    “The economy is absolutely solid regardless of what the pundits on the right are saying…But, it certainly isn’t the sky is falling, gloom and doom and near world collapse that the right keeps claiming.”

    Was going to comment that the view should not be political split but economic split – which is essentially agreeing with the intelligent part of the post – until I saw this political gem and just said fuck commenting further:

    “And if a president can pardon himself. Well, then roll out the red carpet for the next Hitler…”

    You’ll soon hit a level of wealth Lib where you’ll finally leave the foolishness of the Left fully in the rear view mirror…that is your next financial goal, trust me.

  28. Libturd says:

    Well then stop posting crap from X or the Financial Samurai. Don’t even look at it. It has negative value.

    Do you ever stop to ask yourself why The Gardner Brothers who founded Motley Fool or Cramer needs you to subscribe to their stock picking clubs? Why wouldn’t Cramer or the Gardners take their multi millions and just invest it in their own stock picks themselves? The Stock Ninja too? Why do they need you? Do you think they have any interest in helping you?

  29. 3b says:

    ISM numbers up for November.

  30. Libturd says:

    Left.

    Do you honestly believe anyone should be able to pardon themselves?

    Think about the implications. The presidential power to pardon is already used to bailout the corrupt supporters of the POTUS. That was not it’s intent. I always look at the list of POTUS pardons too. Compare Obama’s pardons with Trump’s. Trump’s was a list of supporters. Obama’s was nearly all people overcharged during the war on drugs.

    Yes, it’s always picking the lesser of two evils. The tough part is determining which is the lesser.

  31. Chicago says:

    Ten 416.7 yikes

  32. leftwing says:

    Missing the point…as you are advising Plumpy in financial matters do so yourself…climb out of the shrill, no value added, ship of fools, political rabbit hole….

    My comment was not directed at self-pardon but toward the Hitler reference FFS

  33. Libturd says:

    I didn’t use the Hitler reference for effect. A leader that can pardon himself becomes an authoritarian, no? Does the Constitution even matter if one can pardon themselves?

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-pardon-power-and-original-intent/

  34. leftwing says:

    How about removal of a Member by vote of the other Members?

    You seemed to support that (because it suited your ends) while taking a different stance on pardons (because it doesn’t suit your ends)?

    And you used the Hitler reference seriously? JFC. You understand that makes your post even worst…at least if it were a bad joke….

  35. BRT says:

    Our leaders don’t pardon themselves. They just send investigators to with a predetermination that there was no wrong doing, even when it’s glaringly obvious there was.

  36. Chicago says:

    Stu: Don’t throw the Hitler thing around. It diminishes what Hitler and the Nazis did.

    I love being a stealth Tribesman among Muslims. You hear the thick anti-Semitism. All these years I’ve embarrassed myself calling out FlabMax here. Do you know how painful it is to see my paranoia being confirmed.

  37. Libturd says:

    Left. Which member are you referring to?
    Santos? Menendez? Pelosi? I think they all belong in jail. Let alone in Congress.

  38. Libturd says:

    On the Hitler thing. I apologize. I should have said any other dictator. Though, I’ve never been known to worry much about being politically correct.

  39. Very Stable Genius says:

    Fios all the way. All my TVs have dedicated Cat and additional extenders on each floor.
    Working from home I have hp work laptop, personal MacBook air, iPad, iPhone. All those times 4.

  40. 3b says:

    Have to replace some outdoor Christmas lights, they have gotten very expensive, all made in China too I would presume.

  41. leftwing says:

    Only one of those Members was expelled. Santos.

    Should be troubling as well. Not as much as a ‘self-pardon’ necessarily, but down the same road of authoritarianism.

  42. 3b says:

    Left: Guilty as Santos is he should have had his day in court; even Fetterman acknowledges that. He goes on to rightfully say Melendez allegations are far more serious than Santis who was just a fraud all around. Yet , the liberals cheer how wonderful this is, but silence on Melendez. It’s the typical Republicans do it outrage from the Liberals, a Liberal politician does something and it’s explained away as different or Ok, or just simply silence. I don’t disagree that Trump certainly had authoritarian tendencies, but I see the same authoritarian tendencies with the left. The old we know what’s best for you.

  43. Fabius Maximus says:

    Here is a $3.49 jar of mayo and a reminder that food and gas are not counted in inflation.

    Andrew Lokenauth | TheFinanceNewsletter.com @FluentInFinance
    This is what $108 from Aldi gets you:
    https://twitter.com/FluentInFinance/status/1731836185712968137

  44. leftwing says:

    3b, agree.

    Santos is POS and doesn’t belong there. Or anywhere else without a mop in his hand and hairnet on his head. Point is the decision is not the other Members’ to make based on the current situation…

    Funny thing I’ve noticed about liberals, seriously, not trolling…

    They all seem to start at the desired endpoint and work justification backwards from there.

    Read the NYT comments on any article updating Trump legal proceedings…they nearly all start with ‘he needs to be in jail’ and go on to support legal events that advance it (or decry those events that don’t) without any consideration to the actual merits of these events or the process.

    Facts and process exist for a reason, and the conclusion (like it or not) fall out of them. Not vice-versa.

  45. Fabius Maximus says:

    Yes Chi, you embarrass yourself on a regular basis.

    Lib, you are correct in your assertion. People don’t seem to want to acknowledge the rights slide towards authoritarian theocracy.

    Pinochet as your example, might be more palatable to the snowflakes, but then again, the right loved him.

  46. 3b says:

    Fab: Lots of bad guys on the left as well, history certainly demonstrated that. Yet, the left always mentions Pinochet, but never anyone from history on the left.

  47. Fabius Maximus says:

    Remind me what court convicted Al Franken?

    When his lies came out Santos was called on to resign and refused. He survived the first vote as they Dems behind Schiff said that they should wait until the Ethics Committee reports. The committee did, they voted again and he’s gone. I don’t see a problem with that.

    Fetterman trolling Menendez with the Santos cameo is priceless. And yes, Menendez should resign. If not, then Ethics Committee and out.

  48. Fabius Maximus says:

    3B,

    What do you want, Stalin, Pol Pot, Tito? Yes the left point out Pinochet, he is modern and was so thoroughly embraced by Saint Ronnie and Thatcher.
    You want modern, how about Erdogan in Turkey. Donnie embraced him in a big way

  49. leftwing says:

    “People don’t seem to want to acknowledge the rights slide towards authoritarian theocracy.”

    Says the poster child for the Party that ends runs any process to get their goals…funny you use ‘theocracy’ as that was the term I was going to use to describe the Left…

    Your high priests are all of the -Ist theology, whose infallibility on matters of -isms are more ingrained than any tenet of radical religion could ever be…I’m surprised you aren’t tossing straights and binaries off the roof of five story buildings…

  50. leftwing says:

    Hmmmmm…so Erdogan is a dictoator?

    Based on what?

    Because he was incarcerated for reciting a poem that was critical of merging Islam with Turkish politics and a year after coming out founded a Party that won open democratic elections multiple times by landslides, two constitutional referenda, opened the process for EU membership, and reduced the military’s influence in government?

    Real bad dude there. On the order of Pol Pot or Stalin. Or maybe even as badass as Corn Pop….

    Right….

  51. 3b says:

    Fab: Pol Pot was modern too, same time as Pinochet. I am not debating Trump and Ronnie and Thatcher and whether or not they supported Pinochet, I am simply saying I don’t see the left calling out authoritarian leaders on the left. As for for modern , you forget that fat mad man Kim in North Korea, he and his father and grandfather slaughtered millions of North Koreans over the last 75 years. Then of course there are the Chinese communist leaders, and their slaughter of Tibetans and ethnic Uighurs. I don’t see the outrage from the American left on those leftist leaders. And of course the darling of the left from the 80s , Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua, still the authoritarian leader he always was, and then too Venezuela. My point is authoritarianism should be called out by all whether it’s left or right. From what I see there are many on the left who are ambitious at best on left wing authoritarians.

  52. Fast Eddie says:

    They all seem to start at the desired endpoint and work justification backwards from there.

    Sentence of the year on this blog.

  53. 3b says:

    Should have said ambiguous at best.

  54. TraitorJoe says:

    Authoritarian has now shifted to enforcement of laws that I don’t want to be enforced. The propagandists continue to shape the opinion of low iq folks.

    Meanwhile weaponization of government against their political enemies don’t bother them a bit. The fbi used counter terrorism tips against Catholics and parents complaining at school boards about grooming children. Most outrageous abuses of power in our lifetimes.

  55. Fabius Maximus says:

    Last I looked it was donnie professing his love for Xi and Kim.

    It took 20 seconds to find the last condemnation from the Biden Admin on the Uighurs.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us-condemns-chinas-reported-life-sentence-uyghur-activist-rahile-dewat-2023-09-29/

    You keep saying “I don’t see the left calling out authoritarian leaders on the left.” Actually they do, but there will always be a part of the far left that will embrace them and thats were the focus is.
    .
    The main problem and its not just a problem on the left, is that most people are quiet on on issues such as Uighurs and Taiwan as they would be hard put to find China on a map let alone North Korea or Taiwan.

  56. Bystander says:

    3b,

    $150 a tree at Christmas Brigadoon, Easton CT. That is for all trees too. No more sized pricing. Lights are less of an issue, for me. These places went from 80 to 150 in two years. Oh, there is a Xmas tree shortage, I am told. Pure BS. Greedflation off charts

  57. Fabius Maximus says:

    Yea Left, its all those Leftists out there with a bible in their hard protesting a womans right to self determination of her own body.

    GMAFB

  58. Libturd says:

    Geez. I wasn’t even trying to start a political argument and look what happened. We know all of them are hypocrites and will lie and steal if that is what is necessary to maintain power. Because the greater the power, the more the personal enrichment. I suppose we shouldn’t fault them for it. Why else would they choose to be a politicians? To improve the lot of their fellow Americans? Har har.

  59. leftwing says:

    “Yea Left, its all those Leftists out there with a bible in their hard protesting a womans right to self determination of her own body.”

    Yeah, no analogy there to forcing an injection into my 20 year old’s arm…..

    Because, ya know, one action is not supported by the Left and the other was so I guess that concept of self determination of one’s own body is situational…as are most Leftist ethics and morals.

  60. SmallGovConservative says:

    Libturd says:
    December 5, 2023 at 10:05 am
    “Biden has been effective enough…”

    This might be the dumbest statement ever made on this blog by an otherwise intelligent poster. Although I guess if you define a president as having been ‘effective enough’ as long as no more than two wars were started during his presidency (and as a result of his weakness and incompetence) then I guess Joe qualifies. Of course if Venezuela invades Guyana that would make three ‘Joe’ wars on three continents — the Biden trifecta!

  61. Fabius Maximus says:

    So Bible Trumps Constitution. (excuse the pun)

    Got It!

  62. 3b says:

    Bystander: Supposedly a drought has created a shortage of Xmas trees, but I agree I think it is BS. I was noting the price on those outdoor lights a hundred light string is now upward of 20 bucks and more.

  63. 3b says:

    Fab I would think all of those well educated liberals on CNN and MSNBC as well as their respective counterparts on Fox would know where Taiwan is and who the Uighur s are. As well as those who define themselves as liberal and well educated. Fox will call China out , but never really blame American politicians and big business selling out to China years ago. Then old man Ortega wants to arrest the head of the Nicaraguan beauty pageant from rigging the competition so only anti government contestants could win. Bizarre of course, but standard for these leftist authoritarian regimes.
    I do agree with you in that many Americans are ill informed regarding the rest of the world including their histories and culture, but that is true whether they are left or right.

  64. Fast Eddie says:

    Christmas tree shortage; damn Boomers squeezing everyone for the last nickel.

  65. Juice Box says:

    Christmas tree shortage? Yeah right more like greedflation. You know it’s bad when Whole Foods sells a Christmas tree cheaper than Home Depot.

    Who are they kidding?

    Fraiser Fir Christmas Tree 7-8ft at Whole Foods is $69.99

    https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/product/bottomley-fraiser-fir-christmas-tree-78ft-b07fz3362d

    Same Tree at Home Depot? $139.00

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/7-ft-to-7-5-ft-Freshly-Cut-Fraser-Fir-Live-Christmas-Tree-FF-7-8/315058103

    Bah Humbug the 20 year old Plastic Tree I picked up in NYC way back when I was living there is going up again this year.

  66. Juice Box says:

    Venesuela to annex the oil fields off Guyana and 1/2 the land? You can bet our Military will get involved there is no way Exxon is going to give up on the plans to pump a million barrels a day from those fields. We already have a ton of investment there floating production hooked to the wells on the sea floor.

    These things are massive.

    https://tinyurl.com/2bfh76k4

    https://corporate.exxonmobil.com/news/news-releases/2023/1114_guyana-oil-payara-exxonmobil-offshore#:~:text=ExxonMobil%20Guyana%20anticipates%20six%20FPSOs,barrels%20of%20oil%20per%20day.

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  68. Phoenix says:

    Remind me what court convicted Al Franken?

    Court of rabid feminists.

  69. 3b says:

    Juice: We have an artificial tree as well. My wife is not comfortable with live trees as she is concerned about fire. The first one we had for years, bought it our first married Christmas in Sears in the old Galleria mall in White Plains , both Sears and the Galleria are now gone. Finally had to break down a few years ago and get a new state of the art pre/ lit Christmas tree. Since it’s artificial there is no real hurry to take it down, and it never comes down before Little Christmas anyhow. It’s sad seeing all those dead trees out there after Christmas is over: some people get rid of them the day after Christmas.

  70. Phoenix says:

    F’n troublemaker.😂😂

    Libturd says:
    December 5, 2023 at 4:34 pm
    Geez. I wasn’t even trying to start a political argument and look what happened.

  71. Phoenix says:

    Santos is a Massengill.

    Anyone who lies to get into a position of power should be eliminated instantly. And forfeit any gains or pensions.

  72. Phoenix says:

    3b

    thank you for not supporting the fake farmers of New Jersey. They only do that crap for a f’n tax break.

  73. Juice Box says:

    No pre lit, or led just plain old plastic tree that sheds every year as it degrades but still looks great. I have about 800 mini incandescent white bulbs for my plastic tree. Every year I have to replace a few taken from a donor string, these old fashioned bulbs are rated 0.45 watt each so I am doing my best to warm the living room for a few hours in the evening. I distinctly remember as a kid burning my fingers on these bulbs and their much larger cousins the C-7 size rated at 5 watts. Fun times around the tree. I did not put up my outdoor lights yet that will happen this week. About 2600 colored mini lights I wrap around stuff, and I put out a few small decorations. No more Santa projector and no more lawn blow ups of Frosty and Santa and his sleigh as my kids could care less. My new neighbor put out two plastic reindeer. I may go out there one evening and mount the male on the female just like nature intended.

  74. chicagofinance says:

    LAX: DM is in SoCal…… get stoked!

  75. 3b says:

    Juice: Pre- lit is great, putting on and taking off . Upgrading the outside decor a little as my Daughter says it looks kind of sad. I too remember those old hot Xmas lights. I also remember drowning the tree in tinsel. Don’t see tinsel any more, too messy , or too Bronx! I hate those inflatable decorations. I’m the morning it looks there was a massacre on the front lawn the night before. Also hate the Santa hanging from the windowsill.

  76. Fast Eddie says:

    Also hate the Santa hanging from the windowsill.

    Hang him from a tree outside, after a few days, the smell of the decomposing body inside the house is too much!

  77. Libturd says:

    I am fond of the old people who just replace the bulb in the porch light with a green lightbulb. Sometimes we drive around the neighborhood looking for the laziest Christian.

  78. LAX says:

    8:01 totes!!

  79. BRT says:

    Not that hard these days to find them. The two best Christmas displays on my street behind what my kids do come from my neighbors on each side (Jewish & Muslim). The Catholics don’t care.

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